Teaching as Band Life with Teachers (and musicians!) Shanna and Eric of By Light We Loom
Release Date: 08/03/2021
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info_outlineThis week I'm talking to teachers AND musicians, Shanna and Eric of By Light We Loom, who have their music has been featured in movies and countless stages. We check in about how music can teach us about teaching, focusing in on four areas: presence, process, rhythm, and emergence.
About Shanna and Eric
By Light We Loom, a husband and wife indie-pop duo out of Cleveland, Ohio, combines creative beats, vintage synths, soaring vocals, and intimate harmonies with story-folk songwriting sensibilities to deliver high-energy performances that promise to move your heart and feet in equal measures.
Since its origin in late 2014, By Light We Loom has toured heavily with highlight stops at MidPoint Music Festival, Brite Winter Festival, NEO Cycle Music Festival, The Heights Music Hop, and opening for notable indie acts: The Paper Kites, Car Seat Headrest, Maps & Atlases, Telekinesis, Lucy Dakus, Sondre Lerche, Deep Sea Diver, The Mynabirds, Twin Forks, The Kin, Kopecky, Radiation City, Matt Pond PA, Frontier Ruckus, and more.
By Light We Loom released their debut EP, “The Ignition,” in May of 2015 to critical acclaim and local radio play. Maturing their sound through live performances, they quickly released a more realized EP, “Caught in the Tide,” in January of 2016. “Caught in the Tide” received nationwide radio play, landing the album in the Top 100 of the College Radio Charts. The success of this album resulted in By Light We Loom being named Cleveland Magazine’s “Best Indie Rock Artist of 2016” . Songs from “Caught in the Tide” were also featured in episodes of PBS’s “Roadtrip Nation” in 2017 and 2018. They followed up this release with an intimate four-song EP "Canopy" that pays tribute to Eric's father who passed suddenly the year prior. Most recently, By Light We Loom's original music was featured in the award winning film "The Enormity of Life." Eric and Shanna are currently working hard on a new release due out in October of this year.
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