678: Stacey Poon-Kinney on Volume Hides Everything
Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore
Release Date: 12/23/2019
Restaurant Unstoppable with Eric Cacciatore
To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Chef Jason Santos is the chef/owner of the Buttermilk & Bourbon Group, a family of New Orleans–inspired Southern restaurants in Massachusetts including Buttermilk & Bourbon, Citrus & Salt, and related concepts. A Massachusetts native and Newbury College culinary grad, he rose through Boston kitchens before gaining national attention as the...
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Today's guest will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on August 24th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Kathy Terry co-founded with her husband, Patrick Terry, in 2005, opening the first location in Austin, Texas. Known as the company’s guiding conscience, she helped shape the brand’s mission around quality food, exceptional service, and community-minded...
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Robert Sloop is the CEO of , a consulting firm that helps restaurant operators improve financial performance, operations, and tech stack implementation. With over 30 years in foodservice, he has served as CFO for leading multi‑concept restaurant groups and now advises owners on data‑driven systems and continuous improvement. Join RULibrary: Join RULive: Set Up your RUEvolve 1:1: Subscribe on YouTube: Subscribe to our email newsletter: Today's sponsors: - - Private event leads die in inboxes every day. Mia fixes that. She's an AI agent that responds within seconds,...
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Mike Bausch is an industry leader whose restaurant, Andolini's Pizzeria, is a top ten pizzeria in the US, as named by Trip Advisor, BuzzFeed, CNN and USA Today. Andolini's began in 2005 and has grown to five pizzerias, two gelaterias, two food-hall concepts, a food truck, and a fine dining restaurant by 2020. He's a World Pizza Champion, a Guinness Book world record holder, and a writer for Pizza Today, and the author of Unsliced: How to Stay Whole in the Pizzeria Business. Join RULibrary: Join RULive: Set Up your RUEvolve 1:1: Subscribe on YouTube: Subscribe to our email...
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Today's guest will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on July 27th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! is the co‑founder and owner of Beto’s Mexican Restaurant, a family‑owned Mexican restaurant based in Grand Prairie, Texas, that has been serving the community since 1993. A lifelong Grand Prairie resident and graduate of South Grand Prairie High School,...
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Today's guests will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on August 10th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Peter and Martha Pollay are the cofounders of Mandara Hospitality Group, the Asheville restaurant group behind Posana and other hospitality-driven concepts. Built around a philosophy of local ingredients, sustainability, and intentional service, their work...
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Today's guest will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on August 3rd, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Molly Irani is the cofounder and chief culture officer of the James Beard Award-winning Chai Pani Restaurant Group in Asheville, North Carolina. She has helped shape the company’s celebrated hospitality, community-minded culture, and people-first management...
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Today's guests will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on July 27th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Jeff Tonidandel and Jamie Brown are the husband-and-wife team behind Tonidandel-Brown Restaurant Group, one of Charlotte’s most distinctive hospitality groups. After leaving corporate life to travel through Europe, they returned home inspired to open a...
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To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Dan Simons is the co-founder and co-owner of Founding Farmers Restaurant Group, a mission-driven hospitality company built around sustainable food, responsible business practices, and support for American family farmers. Along with his partner Michael Vucurevich, he helped grow Founding Farmers into one of the most recognized restaurant groups in the Washington,...
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Today's guests will join the Restaurant Unstoppable Network for a live Q+A on July 13th, 2026 at 11AM EST. To join us and engage with all our guests and events, go to restaurantunstoppable.com/live -OR- to just catch today's guest, head over to restaurantunstoppable.com/cwe and we will get you a link to join that specific event for FREE! Chef Mike Cordero is the chef and owner of Cordero Hospitality, bringing more than four decades of experience in the hospitality industry to some of Northern Virginia’s most recognizable restaurants. Known for his creativity, entrepreneurial drive, and...
info_outlineAs a descendant of restaurant operators Stacey Poon-Kinney caught the restaurant bug early. After 8 years of managing a restaurant chain, Stacey and her father took over Megan's Cafe in 2007. After a successful 2 year run, Stacey decided to rebrand to The Trails Eatery and expanded the restaurant footprint to twice the size, but her success was followed by near-total failure in 2011. On the edge of losing total hope, Stacey reached out to the Food Network and Robert Irvine's Restaurant Impossible for help and the rest is history.
Check out Episode 641 with Greg Scheinman as mentioned in today's episode!
Show notes…
Favorite success quote or mantra:
- "The magic is in the details."
In today's episode with Stacey Poon-Kinney we will discuss:
- Growing up in kitchens
- Connection through food
- The value of money and hard work
- Valuable lessons learned at big franchises
- Volume hides everything
- Mentors
- When it is and is not appropriate to flip out on your team
- Structure in the kitchen
- Being pregnant in a managerial role in the kitchen
- Taking over an existing restaurant
- Get tax records if you're taking over restaurants
- Butts in seats earns money
- Regulars are key to success
- Always look for a lesson in bad situations
- Community is no longer spacial
- Applying to Restaurant Impossible for help and what that's like
- The importance of insurance
- Water damage and how to deal with it
- Dealing with a break-in
- Fear is a great motivator
- POS customer service
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Knowledge bombs
- Which "it factor" habit, trait, or characteristic you believe most contributes to your success?
- Communications
- What is your biggest weakness?
- Communication
- What's one question you ask or thing you look for during an interview?
- Kindness, consideration, a sense of humor
- What's a current challenge? How are you dealing with it?
- Time Management
- Share one code of conduct or behavior you teach your team.
- Vintage hospitality
- What is one uncommon standard of service you teach your staff?
- Challenge staff to remember three new names of customers
- What's one book we must read to become a better person or restaurant owner?
- One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard
- Book of Awakening by Mark Nepo
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- Name one service you've hired.
- Way Front marketing in San Diego
- What's one piece of technology you've adopted within your restaurant walls and how has it influence operations?
- ToDoist list making service
- Yelp Nowait
- Toast POS
- Insight Timer meditation app
- If you got the news that you'd be leaving this world tomorrow and all memories of you, your work, and your restaurants would be lost with your departure with the exception of 3 pieces of wisdom you could leave behind for the good of humanity, what would they be?
- Live from your heart
- Ask questions
- Say thank you
Contact info:
Website: www.thetrailseatery.com
Instagram personal: @spkcooks
Instagram business: @thetrailseatery
Facebook: @TheTrailsEatery
Twitter: @TheTrailsEatery
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Huge thanks to Stacey Poon-Kinney for joining me for another awesome episode. Until next time!
