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Simplifying Cyber Security, with Neil Frost

Re-thinking The Human Factor with Bruce Hallas

Release Date: 03/24/2020

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In this episode we re-visit an earlier theme explored in this series. The theme of mesurement and metrics. The question of how to measure awareness, behaviour or culture is something we consistently come across here at Re-thinking the Human Factor when exploring opportunities to work with clients. There's an palpable feeling, across industry chatter, that there's a real lack of maturity when it comes to how we demonstrate the effectiveness of our effrots to influence employee awareness, behaviour and culture. However, there is hope. In this episode I talk with Bernie Smith. Bernie has a focus...

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In this episode we take a peek at the role of the security teams’ own culture and its impact on the broader organisational culture. This, is an important perspective, because whilst many commentators focus on influencing organisational culture they haven’t considered the role that the value and behaviours of the security team has in influencing positive security outcomes across the business. To help us explore this perspective, on cultural forces at play, we have a guest who knows a thing or two about how cultures are formed and influenced. Lianne Potter studied in social anthropology,...

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The role of the human resources function, in the the overall process of employee awareness, behavioru and culture can't be under stated. In the early days of my research, at Re-thinking the Human Factor, it was very apparent that HR was a major stakeholder. From what I like to call KPI's clash, where stakeholders KPI's sometimes clash against each other, through to employee performance and development, and from HR processes such as starters, movers and leavers, through to organisational change. The HR department can add a lot of value to the process of delivering change in employee security...

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What can those of us responsible for security awareness, behaviour and culture learn from a member of the Bloodhound Land Speed world record attempt team when it comes to overcoming the seemingly insurmountable challenges we face?

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NEIL FROST joins us for Series 3, Episode 7 of the Re-Thinking the Human Factor Podcast. Join us for this straight forward discussion on how to cultivate easy to digest security campaigns that have the lasting effect of benefiting culture.

Neil Frost was part of the team responsible for Security Awareness and Culture at the HMRC (the UK Tax Office). Before that he worked at the UK Police Force on Training and Awareness. 

 

AS YOU LISTEN TO THE EPISODE, IF YOU FIND YOURSELF WANTING TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE INSIGHTS YOU’RE GAINING BUT YOU FEEL YOU NEED A LITTLE HELP, PLEASE DO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME AT:

 

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JOIN NEIL FROST AND BRUCE HALLAS AS THEY DISCUSS:

  • Defense against cyber attacks.

  • Tips to make your cyber security training efforts more effective.

  • How budgeting effects training outcomes.

  • How perceptions can block the flow of information.

  • Using data to create security training around the needs of your organization rather than throwing something against the wall and hoping it sticks.
  • How to get the real data rather then answers given "just to please".
  • Implementing lasting behavioural change through messaging and stories.
    • Story telling as a means of communication is hard wired into human behaviour.
  • Finding the right tools such as software platforms and technology to create your solutions.

 

RESOURCES AND TOPICS FOR FURTHER STUDY

Wired For Story

The Analogies Project

 

MORE ABOUT NEIL FROST:

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Bobs Business

Bobs Business (Twitter)

 

 

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Bruce & The Re-thinking the Human Factor Podcast Team