S7E9 | Insights and Impact from Season 7 of Real Returns
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In this final episode of the year, Andrew and Dan reflect on an impactful seventh season of Real Returns. Recorded on New Year’s Eve, the hosts look back at the shift in the podcast’s focus: moving beyond technical investment advice to share the deeply personal stories of world-class entrepreneurs and real estate leaders. Episode 1 w/Grant Cardone: A discussion on "going big," the democratization of real estate, and the future of Bitcoin-infused properties. Episode 2 w/Travis Chappell: Insights on the "bigger shovel" mentality—focusing on increasing income through skill-building and...
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S7 E8 - Sasha Bernier | Diversification & The Rise of Industrial Outdoor Storage
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Is your investment strategy diversified enough to withstand the next market cycle? 🔄 In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Sasha Bernier, Managing Partner at Hestia Holdings and Partner at Cheltenham Enterprises. With a career spanning private equity, credit hedge funds, and law, Sasha shares his "tactical" approach to real estate and why he believes the most resilient returns are found in the niches most investors overlook. Sasha reveals the specific "home run" deal in Florida that moved from an 8% cap rate to a 5.75% cap rate simply by securing a credit...
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S7 E7 - Mike Morawski | Creating Wealth & Impact Through Multifamily Investing
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S7 E7 - Creating Wealth & Impact Through Multifamily Investing Is your mindset holding you back from making your first (or next) big real estate deal? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Mike Morawski, a 30-year real estate veteran and author of the Amazon bestseller "Multifamily Investment Secrets," to explore his journey from general contractor to operating over 8,000 multifamily units using creative financing strategies that most investors think are impossible. Mike is also the founder of My Core Intentions, where he helps investors build...
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S7 E6 - Vishal Gupta | Why Every Hiring Mistake Made Me Better
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What happens when a number-crunching engineer discovers his biggest mistakes all have one thing in common? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Vishal Gupta, tech entrepreneur and former CEO of Seclore, to explore his 25-year journey from IIT Bombay to building global cybersecurity companies serving clients like American Express, GM, and Aramco across 35 countries. Vishal reveals why angel investing became his most expensive hobby, the critical transition from engineering logic to leadership empathy, and how holding onto the wrong people too long...
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S7 E5 - Liran Gabbay | How AI Is Transforming Multifamily Asset Management
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How does an AI expert from an intelligence background solve multifamily's data burnout problem? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Liran Gabbay, CEO and co-founder of Muvan AI, to explore how he's revolutionizing multifamily asset management through artificial intelligence. Liran reveals the Monday morning report that changed everything, why asset managers deserve better than buried Excel spreadsheets, and how his platform is giving finance professionals back the jobs they were actually meant to do. From an elite intelligence unit to building an...
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S7 E4 - Omar Khan | Dollar Cost Averaging with Multifamily Real Estate
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How does a CFA from Canada build an $800 million multifamily empire in Texas? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Omar Khan, founder and managing partner of Boardwalk Wealth, to explore his fundamentals-first approach to multifamily investing. Omar reveals why he compares real estate acquisition strategy to dollar cost averaging in the stock market, his philosophy on bringing "a gun to a knife fight" through supply-starved market selection, and how his firm has taken over 1,800 distressed units in the last 16 months. From escaping Canada's high...
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S7 E3 - Dr. Michael Johnson | Intellectual Property as an Asset Class
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How does a PhD student turn university research into a $20M exit? In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Dr. Michael Johnson, President of the New Jersey Innovation Institute and former biotech CEO, to explore intellectual property as an often-overlooked asset class. Michael reveals his journey from graduate student to successfully commercializing a Rutgers spin-out that worked with all top 20 pharma companies on critical drug discovery programs including COVID-19 and Zika virus treatments. Discover why universities have become America's primary source of...
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S7 E2 - Travis Chappell | The ROI of Investing in Yourself
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How does someone with an unaccredited Bible degree generate six figures by age 23 and build a podcasting empire? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Travis Chappell, podcaster, entrepreneur, and investor, to explore his unconventional journey from door-to-door sales to podcast empire. Travis reveals why he believes Gen Z and millennials must "earn their way to retirement" rather than save their way there, his philosophy on creating value before asking for compensation, and how investing in yourself can deliver 10x returns compared to traditional...
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S7 E1 - Grant Cardone | Real Estate Strategy & Bitcoin
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What does it take to disrupt a $4 trillion industry while building generational wealth? In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Grant Cardone, founder of Cardone Capital and New York Times bestselling author, to explore his journey from a $3,000 single-family home investment to managing $5 billion in assets. Grant shares his revolutionary approach to merging Bitcoin with institutional-quality real estate, his prediction that rents will double in 15 key markets over the next decade, and why he believes the REIT industry is ripe for disruption. From overcoming...
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Insights and Impact from Season 6 of Real Returns
Real Returns
What does it take to create a lasting impact in real estate while staying grounded through personal and professional challenges? In this special season finale of Real Returns, hosts Andrew and Daniel reflect on the highlights of Season 6 and share the most meaningful lessons from eight diverse guests. From affordable housing innovation and sustainability to land investing and financial education for kids, this episode explores the values behind real estate decisions—and the people who are pushing the industry forward. With transparency, humor, and a deep sense of purpose, Andrew and Daniel...
info_outlineWhat happens when you decide to give your way out of debt, and can such radical actions lead to not just financial recovery, but also a life of impactful investing?
In this episode of the Real Returns Podcast, Andrew and Daniel sit down with Paul Moore, a seasoned real estate investor, author, and fund manager, who shares his incredible journey from being $2.5 million in debt to financial freedom. Paul’s story is not just about bouncing back but about transforming financial success into meaningful impact. He discusses his experiences in various investment ventures, his philosophy on the intersection of financial success and societal impact, and his dedication to combating human trafficking through strategic philanthropy. Paul's insights are a must-listen for anyone interested in how capital can create both wealth and positive change.
[00:01 - 04:23] From Engineering to Entrepreneurship
- The importance of pivoting in one's career to find true passion
- How early financial success doesn't always equate to long-term fulfillment
- The role of social responsibility in business from the start
[04:24 - 08:57] Overcoming Financial Ruin
- The impact of the 2008 financial crisis on personal wealth
- How unconventional methods can lead to recovery
- The importance of resilience and innovation during financial hardship
[08:58 - 12:22] The Foundation of Wellings Capital
- The evolution of Wellings Capital from a multifamily syndicator to a diversified fund manager
- Why over-leveraging and speculation are risky even in "safe" investments
- The importance of ethical investing and its impact on communities
[12:23 - 17:38] Combating Human Trafficking: Philanthropy Through Investment
- How strategic philanthropy can be integrated into business practices
- The shocking reality of modern-day slavery and the financial power behind it
- The role of investors in raising awareness and funding solutions to global issues
[17:39 - 22:11] Future Plans and Personal Growth
- The importance of aligning with the right partners for business growth
- How personal habits can influence professional success
- The long-term vision for Wellings Capital
Connect with Paul!
https://www.wellingscapital.com/
Key Quotes:
"We have the highest number of enslaved people in history today, and it's up to us to do something about it." - Paul Moore
"I decided I was going to give my way out of debt. It was a radical, countercultural move, but it worked." — Paul Moore
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