Turning Challenges into Opportunities: An Impactful Real Estate Journey | Gavin Gallagher
Release Date: 04/16/2025
S7E9 | Insights and Impact from Season 7 of Real Returns
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In this final episode of the year, Andrew and Dan reflect on an impactful seventh season of Real Returns. Recorded on New Year’s Eve, the hosts look back at the shift in the podcast’s focus: moving beyond technical investment advice to share the deeply personal stories of world-class entrepreneurs and real estate leaders. Episode 1 w/Grant Cardone: A discussion on "going big," the democratization of real estate, and the future of Bitcoin-infused properties. Episode 2 w/Travis Chappell: Insights on the "bigger shovel" mentality—focusing on increasing income through skill-building and...
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S7 E8 - Sasha Bernier | Diversification & The Rise of Industrial Outdoor Storage
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Is your investment strategy diversified enough to withstand the next market cycle? 🔄 In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Sasha Bernier, Managing Partner at Hestia Holdings and Partner at Cheltenham Enterprises. With a career spanning private equity, credit hedge funds, and law, Sasha shares his "tactical" approach to real estate and why he believes the most resilient returns are found in the niches most investors overlook. Sasha reveals the specific "home run" deal in Florida that moved from an 8% cap rate to a 5.75% cap rate simply by securing a credit...
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S7 E7 - Mike Morawski | Creating Wealth & Impact Through Multifamily Investing
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S7 E7 - Creating Wealth & Impact Through Multifamily Investing Is your mindset holding you back from making your first (or next) big real estate deal? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Mike Morawski, a 30-year real estate veteran and author of the Amazon bestseller "Multifamily Investment Secrets," to explore his journey from general contractor to operating over 8,000 multifamily units using creative financing strategies that most investors think are impossible. Mike is also the founder of My Core Intentions, where he helps investors build...
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S7 E6 - Vishal Gupta | Why Every Hiring Mistake Made Me Better
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What happens when a number-crunching engineer discovers his biggest mistakes all have one thing in common? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Vishal Gupta, tech entrepreneur and former CEO of Seclore, to explore his 25-year journey from IIT Bombay to building global cybersecurity companies serving clients like American Express, GM, and Aramco across 35 countries. Vishal reveals why angel investing became his most expensive hobby, the critical transition from engineering logic to leadership empathy, and how holding onto the wrong people too long...
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S7 E5 - Liran Gabbay | How AI Is Transforming Multifamily Asset Management
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How does an AI expert from an intelligence background solve multifamily's data burnout problem? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Liran Gabbay, CEO and co-founder of Muvan AI, to explore how he's revolutionizing multifamily asset management through artificial intelligence. Liran reveals the Monday morning report that changed everything, why asset managers deserve better than buried Excel spreadsheets, and how his platform is giving finance professionals back the jobs they were actually meant to do. From an elite intelligence unit to building an...
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S7 E4 - Omar Khan | Dollar Cost Averaging with Multifamily Real Estate
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How does a CFA from Canada build an $800 million multifamily empire in Texas? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Omar Khan, founder and managing partner of Boardwalk Wealth, to explore his fundamentals-first approach to multifamily investing. Omar reveals why he compares real estate acquisition strategy to dollar cost averaging in the stock market, his philosophy on bringing "a gun to a knife fight" through supply-starved market selection, and how his firm has taken over 1,800 distressed units in the last 16 months. From escaping Canada's high...
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S7 E3 - Dr. Michael Johnson | Intellectual Property as an Asset Class
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How does a PhD student turn university research into a $20M exit? In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Dr. Michael Johnson, President of the New Jersey Innovation Institute and former biotech CEO, to explore intellectual property as an often-overlooked asset class. Michael reveals his journey from graduate student to successfully commercializing a Rutgers spin-out that worked with all top 20 pharma companies on critical drug discovery programs including COVID-19 and Zika virus treatments. Discover why universities have become America's primary source of...
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S7 E2 - Travis Chappell | The ROI of Investing in Yourself
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How does someone with an unaccredited Bible degree generate six figures by age 23 and build a podcasting empire? In this episode of Real Returns, hosts Andrew Reichert and Dan Croce sit down with Travis Chappell, podcaster, entrepreneur, and investor, to explore his unconventional journey from door-to-door sales to podcast empire. Travis reveals why he believes Gen Z and millennials must "earn their way to retirement" rather than save their way there, his philosophy on creating value before asking for compensation, and how investing in yourself can deliver 10x returns compared to traditional...
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S7 E1 - Grant Cardone | Real Estate Strategy & Bitcoin
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What does it take to disrupt a $4 trillion industry while building generational wealth? In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Grant Cardone, founder of Cardone Capital and New York Times bestselling author, to explore his journey from a $3,000 single-family home investment to managing $5 billion in assets. Grant shares his revolutionary approach to merging Bitcoin with institutional-quality real estate, his prediction that rents will double in 15 key markets over the next decade, and why he believes the REIT industry is ripe for disruption. From overcoming...
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Insights and Impact from Season 6 of Real Returns
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What does it take to create a lasting impact in real estate while staying grounded through personal and professional challenges? In this special season finale of Real Returns, hosts Andrew and Daniel reflect on the highlights of Season 6 and share the most meaningful lessons from eight diverse guests. From affordable housing innovation and sustainability to land investing and financial education for kids, this episode explores the values behind real estate decisions—and the people who are pushing the industry forward. With transparency, humor, and a deep sense of purpose, Andrew and Daniel...
info_outlineWhat if the greatest investment lesson comes not from success, but from failure? In this episode, Gavin J Gallagher, real estate veteran and host of Behind the Facade, shares his journey from a starry-eyed architect to the developer of a 40-acre award-winning business campus—and the brutal fall that nearly ended it all. He opens up about the crash of 2008, losing his family home, the weight of financial ruin, and ultimately, how he found clarity, purpose, and resilience. This episode is about more than real estate. It's about navigating identity, ego, and rebuilding from rock bottom.
[00:01 – 05:30] | Skyscrapers and Spark
• How early exposure to new environments can spark lifelong ambition
• Why recognizing financial upside can influence career shifts
• The importance of aligning skills with opportunity for long-term growth
[05:31 – 10:20] | Turning Trash into Treasure
• What it takes to manage complexity in large-scale redevelopment
• Why phased development with committed tenants reduces risk
• The significance of hands-on learning in shaping leadership
[10:21 – 15:44] | From Celtic Tiger to Collapse
• Why market cycles matter more than individual skill
• How ego can cloud judgment during financial success
• The importance of risk awareness even in bullish markets
[15:45 – 21:25] | Rebuilding from Ruin
• Why taking ownership is the first step to recovery
• The significance of mindset, relationships, and energy when money is gone
• How perspective changes when you focus on what remains instead of what's lost
[21:26 – 28:11] | Purpose After Pain
• The importance of mental health awareness in high-stress industries
• Why family and values must anchor your work in difficult seasons
• How sharing your story can offer others a path forward
Connect with Gavin!
https://www.instagram.com/gavinjgallagher/?hl=en
Key Quotes:
"The banks took the house, but they couldn’t take my experience, my network, or my energy." – Gavin J Gallagher
"I remember thinking, I may be losing everything, but I’m not going to lose myself." – Gavin J Gallagher
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