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What SEOs should know about devs

Search Off the Record

Release Date: 06/12/2025

Are websites getting “fat”? Page weight, HTML size & Googlebot limits explained - transcript show art Are websites getting “fat”? Page weight, HTML size & Googlebot limits explained - transcript

Search Off the Record

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Are websites getting “fat”? Page weight, HTML size & Googlebot limits explained show art Are websites getting “fat”? Page weight, HTML size & Googlebot limits explained

Search Off the Record

In this episode of Search Off the Record, Gary and Martin dig into what “page size” and “page weight” actually mean for developers, users, and search engines. They discuss exploding web page sizes: median mobile homepages hit 2.3 MB in 2025 Web Almanac (up 3x from 2015), key insights for developers on page weight definitions, Googlebot's crawl limits, HTML bloat from structured data/images, and why size still hurts UX on slow connections despite faster networks. If you build or maintain websites, this conversation will help you rethink how much data your pages ship, where bloat really...

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Google crawlers behind the scenes - transcript show art Google crawlers behind the scenes - transcript

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Developers often talk about Googlebot as if it were a single program you could just run as “googlebot.exe”, but that is not how Google’s crawling actually works. In this episode of Search Off the Record, Martin and Gary from the Search Relations team unpack how Google’s crawling infrastructure is really built and operated.​ They cover why “Googlebot” is a misnomer and how it relates to a central crawling software-as-a-service used by many Google products​, how crawl behavior is controlled centrally to avoid overwhelming sites (throttling, handling 503s, and “don’t break the...

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How Browsers Really Parse HTML (and What That Means for SEO) - transcript show art How Browsers Really Parse HTML (and What That Means for SEO) - transcript

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How Browsers Really Parse HTML (and What That Means for SEO) show art How Browsers Really Parse HTML (and What That Means for SEO)

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Martin and Gary unpack how HTML parsing really works, why the HTML standard is so lenient, and how messy markup can silently break key SEO signals like hreflang and rel=canonical. They revisit validators and cross‑browser hacks from the Netscape/IE days, and discuss whether semantic HTML and strict validity truly matter for search. You’ll also hear when link hints like preload, prefetch, and DNS prefetch help performance (and indirectly SEO), and where meta and link tags really belong. ​ Resources: HTML Living Standard → https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ Episode transcript →...

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Do You Still Need a Website in 2026? (Transcript) show art Do You Still Need a Website in 2026? (Transcript)

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Do You Still Need a Website in 2026? show art Do You Still Need a Website in 2026?

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In this episode of Search Off the Record, Martin and Gary from the Google Search Relations team tackle a deceptively simple question: do you still need a website in 2026? Starting from the recurring industry claim that “the web is dead,” they explore how the web has evolved through the rise of apps, AI chatbots, and social platforms, and why the answer almost always ends up being “it depends.” Tune in for an engaging discussion on how websites remain relevant and what it means for content creation and discovery. Episode transcript → Listen to more Search Off the Record →  ...

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Crawling Challenges: What the 2025 Year-End Report Tells Us - Transcript show art Crawling Challenges: What the 2025 Year-End Report Tells Us - Transcript

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Crawling Challenges: What the 2025 Year-End Report Tells Us. show art Crawling Challenges: What the 2025 Year-End Report Tells Us.

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​Join Martin and Gary as they dive into Search Off the Record's Episode 103, unpacking the 2025 Year-End report on crawling issues. Discover fascinating insights on faceted navigation, action parameters, irrelevant parameters and more, highlighting the biggest challenges faced by web crawlers last year. With humor and expert analysis, this episode reveals critical takeaways for webmasters and SEO professionals. Don't miss valuable tips to enhance your site's crawl efficiency! ​ Resources: URL structure best practices for Google Search →   Crawling December: Faceted navigation → ...

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In this candid episode of Search Off the Record, Gary Illyes and Martin Splitt from the Google Search team peel back the curtain to reveal a more human side of their work and challenges. Instead of diving deep into technical concepts, they reflect on their personal journeys—touching on everything from public speaking nerves to building empathy between developers and SEOs. Through playful banter and thoughtful commentary, they share how communication, context, and curiosity play vital roles in their day-to-day roles, both internally at Google and in the broader web ecosystem.

The conversation also explores the evolution of Martin’s career, his passion for the web, and how his developer background helps him bridge gaps in technical understanding. The duo navigates the complexities of delivering accurate guidance in public forums, the risk of being taken out of context, and the importance of clear communication across diverse audiences. It's a thoughtful, lighthearted, and occasionally philosophical discussion that reminds listeners that behind the guidance, there are real people striving to make the web better for everyone.

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Episode 93 transcript→https://goo.gle/sotr093-transcript 

Chapters:
0:00 – Intro & Setup
1:30 – Life at Google
3:30 – Speaking to Developers
6:30 – Early Speaking Days
10:00 – SEOs vs Devs
14:00 – Should SEOs Code?
19:00 – Context is Everything
23:30 – Clearer SEO Advice
26:30 – Why No Slides
29:00 – Wrap Up Chat

Listen to more Search Off the Record → https://goo.gle/sotr-yt
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Search Off the Record is a podcast series that takes you behind the scenes of Google Search with the Search Relations team.

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Speaker: Martin Splitt, Gary Illyes
Products Mentioned: Search