From Shame to Fame: Changing Behaviors and RSAC Interviews from Tanium and Illumio - Andrew Rubin, Craig Taylor, Tim Morris - BSW #444
Business Security Weekly (Audio)
Release Date: 04/22/2026
Business Security Weekly (Audio)
This week, we air our thirteenth pre-recorded segment called “Say Easy, Do Hard”. Inspired by my co-host, Jason Albuquerque, we discuss “Performance Through People”. Greg Hoffman joined us a few weeks back to discuss his new book. This week, we dig into his five disciplines of Performance Through People and do the hard part. Visit for all the latest episodes! Show Notes:
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One of the biggest questions most executives ask is "Why does it still feel this hard when the talent is clearly there?" The answer, in almost every case, is not a people problem. It is an environment problem. And environment is something a leader can build. Greg Hoffman, President at Ascension Performance Group, joins Business Security Weekly to discuss his new book, Performance Through People, a leadership parable that shows a practical operating model for building the conditions where people perform at their highest level. It is written as a story, but it is built as a framework. Greg will...
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The 2026 Verizon DBIR has arrived and the results are in... Even with a substantial increase in Exploitation of Vulnerabilities, All Credential Abuse is still the top initial access vector for breaches, which means the human is still the weakest link. Why haven't security awareness training and phishing campaigns worked? Robert Siciliano, Architect of of The Strategic Human Firewall™ at ProtectNow, joins Business Security Weekly to explore why humans, not hackers, are the ultimate deciding factor in organizational security. The industry needs to shift from security awareness to security...
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Craig Taylor, CEO and Co-founder at CyberHoot, joins Business Security Weekly to discuss why we need to shift our Cyber Literacy industry from shame and punishment towards gamification, positive reinforcement, and small rewards. If we truly aspire to change behaviors, then we need a different approach. Craig will discuss how a multi-disciplinary approach rooted in science is the future of training and phishing programs.
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Individual Registration (Free Personal Training for Life): https://cyberhoot.com/individuals/ Newsletter Registration: https://cyberhoot.com/newsletters/ Blog Articles: https://cyberhoot.com/blog/ Cybrary (Library of 1000+ Cybersecurity Terms in non-technical language): https://cyberhoot.com/cybrary/ Special Podcast Offer: 20% off CyberHoot for 1 year using the podcast’s unique coupon code: "Business Security Weekly"
From Reactive to Autonomous: Real-Time Endpoint Intelligence in the Age of AI As organizations experiment with agentic AI and autonomous security operations, many are discovering a difficult reality: AI is only as effective as the data and visibility behind it. Yet most enterprises still struggle to answer basic questions about their endpoints in real time.
In this conversation, we’ll explore how IT and security teams are evolving from reactive operations toward proactive, preventative, and ultimately autonomous models. The journey begins with real-time endpoint intelligence—the ability to see, understand, and act across every endpoint in seconds.
This segment is sponsored by Tanium. Visit https://securityweekly.com/taniumrsac to learn more about them!
Hard Truths: The Lies We Keep Buying in Cybersecurity Cybersecurity isn’t broken because of a lack of technology—it’s broken because the industry avoids hard truths. Fear still drives budgets. AI is oversold as a cure‑all while foundations remain weak, and CISOs are held accountable without the authority to change outcomes. In this conversation, Illumio CEO and founder Andrew Rubin breaks down what must change to build real resilience—because the next breach won’t just impact the business, it could end a career.
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