SCP Podcast Episode 278: Inna Segal The Secret Language of the Body
Release Date: 04/16/2026
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info_outlineOn this episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Podcast, Dr. Perry sits down with Inna Segal, author of The Secret Language of the Body, for a fascinating and lighthearted conversation about what your symptoms may be trying to say. Have you been struggling to heal and nothing is helping? This podcast episode is for you.
We explore the idea that the body is always communicating through sensations, pain, fatigue, and emotional patterns—and that learning to listen can change the way we heal.
Inna shares insights from her book on the deeper messages behind physical discomfort, the connection between emotions and the body, and how greater awareness can open the door to transformation. It’s a fun, thoughtful, and eye-opening episode that will make you see your body in a whole new way. You will love it. I sure did. :)