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Strange Country Ep. 257: Waco Siege Part 5

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Release Date: 03/30/2023

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We have finally reached the end of the Strange Country siege of covering the Waco Siege. In the final episode, cohosts Beth and Kelly discuss the aftermath of Waco and how the dots can be connected to such awfulness like Oklahoma City bombing and the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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