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The Art of Being, Not Just Doing: Creativity Beyond Productivity and Perfectionism with Maria Bowler

Windowsill Chats

Release Date: 04/30/2025

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Margo is joined by writer, coach, and retreat leader Maria Bowler for a conversation about redefining creativity beyond the limits of productivity. Maria helps creatives transform resistance into clarity and insight, drawing on her background as a magazine editor, creative writing teacher, and holder of a master's degree in religion and the arts from Yale University. Originally from Canada, she now lives with her family in the Driftless region of the U.S., where she continues to explore and teach a more holistic approach to creative living.

 

Margo and Maria discuss:

  • Maria’s creative journey, from childhood passion to overcoming major blocks

  • How to redefine resistance as a valuable teacher rather than an obstacle

  • The differences between productivity and creativity—and why confusing the two leads to burnout

  • Seeing creativity as a collaboration with life, not just a series of tasks

  • The impact of perfectionism on creative expression and how to loosen its grip

  • Embracing whole-life creativity as part of daily living, not a separate act

  • Balancing creative output with essential intake and inspiration

  • Giving yourself permission to make mistakes and stay curious

  • Practical strategies for reconnecting with creativity during stuck periods

  • Highlights from Maria’s new book Making Time: A New Vision for Crafting a Life Beyond Productivity

 

Connect with Maria:

www.mariabowler.com

www.mariabowler.substack.com

https://www.instagram.com/mariaevbowler

Connect with Margo: 

www.windowsillchats.com

@windowsillchats

www.patreon.com/inthewindowsill

https://www.yourtantaustudio.com/thefoundry