On this episode of The A Game Podcast: Real Estate Investing for Entrepreneurs, Nick Lamagna sits down with Jordan Samuel Fleming — real estate investor, SaaS founder, and the co-founder of smrtPhone, the all-in-one cloud phone system and power dialer built for real estate investors and high-volume sales teams.
Jordan’s story is anything but typical: a classically trained musician turned tech strategist who went from building systems in the Podio ecosystem to helping thousands of businesses tighten their follow-up, track every touchpoint, and scale from a couple deals a month to consistent high volume without burning out.
You’ll hear the real “behind the curtain” conversations that matter to investors right now:
✅ Why most investors stall at 1–2 deals/month (and what the best operators do differently)
✅ The fortune-in-the-follow-up framework: lead buckets, consistent touchpoints, and why your CRM is full of “found money”
✅ How power dialing, call logs, recordings, and team accountability can expose leaks and immediately increase conversions
✅ Real talk on cold calling, texting, and communication compliance — and why doing the basics well still wins
✅ Where AI in real estate is going next (and how voice + automation will reshape acquisitions)
Jordan also shares insights from his new book “Click. Call. Scale.” — a practical playbook for building a phone-first sales system that helps real estate investors close more deals through better conversations, better data, and better process. He also hosts the hit podcast That Real Estate Tech Guy.
If you’re wholesaling, flipping, buying rentals, running a acquisitions team, or building a real estate business that needs more leads and better conversions, this episode is a must.
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