LIVE From AI Summit: AI That Only Gets Paid When It Works (Inside Tinman AI)
Release Date: 01/07/2026
The Brave Technologist
Joseph Ng, Chief Strategy Officer of GeneGenius and author of The Hybrid Mind, discusses how institutions must redesign decision architectures as humans and intelligent machines operate together. His vision for the “hybrid mind” is one with supervised intelligence where humans set mission, values, and boundaries while AI participates in operational decisions. He also discusses his work at GeneGenius to transform raw genetic data into “biological intelligence” that can support precision medicine, early disease detection, and personalized treatments. Key Takeaways: His work...
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Anna Yuan, founder of Perena and former head of stablecoins at the Solana Foundation, discusses how Perena is designing new on-chain financial products, including USD*, a liquid yield token that earns continuously while remaining spendable. We also explore why trust remains one of crypto’s biggest challenges, how decentralized and traditional finance are converging, and what role AI agents may play in the future of payments and financial automation. Key Takeaways: How Perena’s USD* token allows users to earn continuous yield while still being able to spend their assets Why...
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Kapil Gupta, former Enterprise AI Product & Platform Leader at Cigna, shares insights from more than two decades of turning cutting-edge technology into enterprise-ready products. He unpacks the difference between generative AI and agentic AI, and why governance, user choice, and thoughtful design matter just as much as innovation. Learn how enterprises can scale responsibly and why the best technology often feels invisible to the people using it. Key Takeaways: The tangible difference between generative AI and agent-based workflows Why adoption depends on fitting into existing...
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Chastity Murphy, former Senior Advisor at the U.S.Treasury and Visiting Research Fellow at the University of Manchester, shares her experiences working on digital money legislation, including the Stable Act. She reflects on the transition from cash to digital payments along with her current research developing offline, anonymous public interest payment systems. Key Takeaways: How early stablecoin legislation shaped our understanding of digital money, privacy, and consumer protection The gap between technologists and policymakers in understanding digital money Real-world risks of...
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Evin McMullen, co-founder and CEO of Billions Network, explores how identity for agents is going to unlock the next era of the Internet. She shares outcomes from collaborations with regulatory bodies and major companies (like HSBC and TikTok), along with their use of Zero Knowledge Proofs in proving you’re human without giving up privacy. Key Takeaways: How Billions Network plans to save the Internet, starting first with scaling trust (while balancing convenience and privacy) The critical importance of identity verification in an increasingly AI-dominated digital landscape, and the...
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info_outlineLeah Price, Vice President of Tinman AI Platform at better.com, breaks down why traditional subscription-based pricing no longer works and how outcome-driven AI can unlock real value for enterprises. She also shares how embedded AI, avatars, and automation are transforming the mortgage experience for both lenders and borrowers, and what the future of AI-powered financial infrastructure could look like.
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How Tinman AI embeds generative AI across an entire mortgage tech stack
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The limitations of traditional ROI models in enterprise AI adoption, and Tinman’s vision for outcome-based pricing
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How AI avatars and bots reduce borrower friction and improve trust
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What the future of mortgage lending could look like with AI as infrastructure
Guest Bio: Leah Price serves as Vice President leading the Tinman® AI Platform at Better, the AI-powered homeownership company. Under her leadership, the Tinman AI Platform will be offered to lenders and brokers across the country as an API-accessible platform.
Previously, Leah led the Office of Fintech and the Office of the Chief AI Officer at Federal Housing Finance Agency, leading initiatives in emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and blockchain. Earlier in her career, Leah held leadership roles at Figure Technologies and at Fannie Mae, where she was on the launch team of Day 1 Certainty® and other product innovations. She served as co-chair of MISMO’s Emerging Technology Community of Practice, and was a Senior Advisor to MISMO.
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