Bali, Holy Mountains, & the Great Recycling Program
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What if aging isn’t a problem to solve but a feature of being human? What if what’s falling apart is doing exactly what it’s meant to do? Sarah Jessop is a dear friend, fellow mariner, Yoga teacher, artist, and mystic based in Witchcliff, Western Australia. She’s been coming to Bali since she was 21, when she first left Australia with a little bit of money and no idea what she was in for. We talk about what it means to be welcomed into a living culture, the ways tourists sometimes misunderstand Bali, and how Balinese society holds itself together through invisible threads of...
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You Are The Beauty with Sofie Chi and Mark
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You’re locked in a cell, in handcuffs, with no way out. Not just physically, but mentally too. That’s where Sofie Chi found herself, and it’s also where her daily Yoga truly began. In this conversation, Sofie speaks about being detained and how, in that moment of intense restriction, she turned to her breath and body. From within that birdcage-like balcony, she began participating in the given reality, and it changed everything. Sofie is a teacher from Austria of Polish descent who travels the world sharing Facial Rejuvenation. Her story and presence bring deep clarity to the question of...
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The Yoga of Music with Tony Glausi and Mark
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For Mark Whitwell, music was always a temple. In the jazz clubs of New York such as Village Vanguard, Blue Note, and Sweet Basil, he felt the power of true presence. In this conversation, Mark is joined by Tony Glausi, a trumpet player and composer who carries the living jazz tradition with profound originality. Over the course of a month practicing together in Bali, a friendship formed through daily Yoga, shared breath, and an unshakable love for music. Tony opens up about the journey that brought him here. From his roots in a large Mormon family to years of exploring Buddhism, psychedelics,...
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The Beauty of Om with Sybille and Rosalind
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OM is the mantra of all mantras, the expression of perfect perfection of life that is happening as every person and every form of the cosmos. Including you, the reader. Pronunciation of OM reveals this to the whole body and mind. This conversation is between two devotees of the OM: Sybille is a Yoga teacher, student of Sanskrit and the wisdom traditions, mother, historian, and co-founder of Hatha Vinyasa Parampara Studio in Mainz, Germany. She is also a lover of the vibration of the OM. We explore the beauty of Om, its sonic completeness, and how Sanskrit, practiced rather than merely...
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The Freedom to Feel: An Interview with Yogini Jin Hee Kim
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Grief is love. Fear, anger, pain and grief are biological functions that resolve into compassion for all. Rather than fixation on my one dominant emotion, we develop an emotional intelligence. We predict the next emotion that is more fundamental than our present emotion. By this intelligence, we come to compassion. It is our own intelligence. We are born with it. We saw an extraordinary Yoga transformation occur over one year. Jin Hee Kim, (or Jinny) is a yogini from Korea and Melbourne. Over the past year, she has gone through a powerful journey of loss, realization, and return. Jinny...
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In the World, Not of the World with Maartje Hesseling
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Can Yoga be real in the corporate world? Can we live from the natural state while moving through meetings, deadlines, and the everyday push of professional life? In this conversation with my good friend and dedicated practitioner Maartje Hesseling, we speak about what happens when Yoga becomes a daily reality. Maartje lives in Switzerland and works at a high level in the corporate world, but over the last three years, she has quietly come into a steady rhythm of practice. We talk about how that shift has changed her life, not by chasing self-improvement, but by staying close to what she...
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Om Shanti - Not Provoked? Andrew Raba and Rosalind Atkinson
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What does it really mean to be not provoked? I called in my dear friend Andrew Raba for this one, because he’s the final and complete master of Shanti, obviously never disturbed by anything ever. Well, not quite. But we did want to talk about this phrase from the tradition: Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. It’s something we’ve both chanted a thousand times, but the meaning that’s really stuck with us is one we learned from Mark, “not provoked.” Andrew shared so honestly about a moment where he lost it in front of a whole group of students. A group of teenage boys showed up to Yoga class,...
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Why Yoga? An Interview with Rosalind
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Today I speak about an insight that freed me from a deep presumption carried since childhood. I saw that I am allowed to enjoy life. That recognition lifted the sense of guilt I had lived with for simply being. Social expectations and spiritual ideals can push us to keep working on ourselves to be better, more vulnerable, or more mindful. Yet in Yoga there is no such requirement. The mind is not a problem. The mind moves in all directions so the body can be alive in its total context. Yoga is intimacy with what is already the case. This is about the natural freedom of life itself. The body,...
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You Are the Movement of Life, End of Story
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What if life is already complete, already whole, already free? My dear friend Jana Wirth, a yogini and physiotherapist in Mainz, Germany, speaks about the moment she realized she was free to enjoy her life without guilt. That simple recognition lifted years of conditioning and opened space for ease and joy. Together we speak about her path through physiotherapy, Yoga, and the ways these two streams meet in her daily work. Jana describes her steady commitment to practice, the challenges of cultural expectation, and the simple joy of merging with life as it is. I loved hearing how she no longer...
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Victory Over the Usual Life with Kalena Hynes
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What happens when Yoga brings you to life? When the suffering and heaviness that seemed endless begin to wash away, and what is left is natural beauty and creativity? When I first met Kalena she was a solo mother, a frustrated artist caught in family strife and difficulty. Life felt miserable and heavy. Through daily Yoga practice, she found relief. She began painting for ten minutes a day and what poured out of her was beauty. Her painting and ceramics now flow as the movement of life and her recent Holy Waters exhibition has become a balm for others. This conversation is the story of victory...
info_outlineImagine words so sincere, that the author appears as a close friend, speaking directly through time to the deepest part of who we are? This week, Dylan Giles joins Rosalind to share how reading Walt Whitman’s “Song of Myself” in a time of personal drift opened a direct experience of connection. Dylan describes nights spent under the Californian moon, feeling Whitman’s words as a living presence, breaking him free of rigid traditions.
In this episode I find out from Dylan about Whitman as mystic, and we use him to understand yogic ideas such as shaktipat, ishta, and guru parampara.
We explore how reading Whitman can lead to a shift from cleverness to sincerity in our own writing, the subtle ways we unconsciously believe we are separate from greatness, and the challenge of integrating moments of inspiration into daily life.
In this conversation we track the shift from being a FAN of a mystic like Whitman of William Blake, to being a fellow participant in the great mystery called life. With our artists and mystics holding our hands.
Subjects Explored
Meeting Whitman in a moment of drift and loneliness
The freedom of Whitman’s meterless, sincere poetry
Sensing Whitman’s living presence through reading
How sincerity cuts through patterned language
Moving beyond cleverness to honest writing
Recognizing unconscious beliefs of separation
Yoga as the way we integrate grace into our lives
Key Phrases or Quotes
“I was reading this and feeling from the page that Walt Whitman was directly communicating to me, like he was in the room.”
“True sincerity really moves me.”
“I felt as if his words were so sweet. I felt it in my heart that he was just around me somehow.”
“There’s erosion of spontaneous human expression. You sort of felt like you’d discovered a fountain of spontaneous human expression in a desert.”
“I realized he wasn’t different from me. We are made of the same stuff.”
Key Takeaways
Sincerity Creates Real Connection – Honest words carry a power that reaches others directly.
Poetry Reveals Yoga – Words infused with life transmit a sense of presence and unity.
Admiration Sparks Recognition – Seeing beauty in Whitman helps us see it in ourselves.
Yoga Grows in Integration – Grace opens possibilities, and Yoga helps us live them fully.
Spontaneous Words Are Alive – Breaking from scripts nourishes life and brings clarity.
We Share the Creative Force – The same life that moved Whitman moves through each of us.
Suggested Reading
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman – Explore the groundbreaking free verse poems that celebrate the body, nature, death, and the joy of existence.
The Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake – A visionary work challenging traditional views of good and evil, exploring the unity of opposites, and the energy of life.
Timestamps
00:02:00 Intimate Yoga revealed in Whitman’s poetry during Dylan’s personal drift
00:04:00 Whitman’s presence felt through words alive and immediate across time
00:06:00 Scripted language blocking authentic, heartfelt human communication
00:08:00 Shaktipat-like realization ignited by powerful, sincere words
00:09:00 Shared creative power with Whitman dissolves illusions of separation
00:20:00 Radical embrace of body, sexuality, death, and life celebrated by Whitman
00:29:00 “What is the grass?” reflects on life, death, and universal connection
00:32:00 Eternal life recognized within finite human experience through Yoga
00:36:00 Bold authenticity inspired by Whitman’s lines urging courage beyond comfort
00:46:00 Body-soul unity illuminated in Blake’s vision of eternal creative energy
You are the beauty. You are the intelligence. You are already in perfect harmony with life. You don’t need to seek it. You need only participate in it.
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