046 - Breakdown of the Antioch High School Shooting
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Release Date: 02/13/2025
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info_outlineIn this special episode, we break down the shooting at Antioch High School in Nashville and discuss steps that must be taken to protect our schools and prevent future tragedies. We discuss the warning signs, social media threats, security measures like metal detectors and AI software, and the critical role of training and preparation. As former teachers, law enforcement, and military personnel, we use our insights to challenge you to take action before it’s too late. How can we move beyond reactive solutions and truly protect our students?
Notes:
2:25 - We don’t name shooters
3:10 - Threat assessment had been done on this particular student
4:55 - Someone made the decision to let him come back
7:00 - Intent had been shared on social media
9:20 - “It’s not missed, it’s being dismissed”
15:15 - Metal detector misconceptions
17:50 - Adam’s thoughts on metal detectors and 2000 students in one area at one time
20:35 - AI gun-detection software that Metro Nashville Public Schools uses
28:40 - How critical is perceived threat in the military? Adam responds on the importance of training.
30:00 - Technology is NOT a replacement for the human
32:00 - Some SROs become friends with students and get far from focusing on students as potential threats which is dangerous.
36:00 - People’s response was all over the place – subs without keys, etc.
42:00 - Go to your kid’s school’s board members to ask what they’re doing and how.
Tips, Tactics, and Tools for a Safer Tomorrow was born out of several conversations between Brink Fidler and Tom Herring that always revolved around how they focus on properly educating their clients in order to maximize their effectiveness and customer service.
Both companies strive to meet the same end goal and that is to increase the safety and security posture of their clients.
Brink’s company, Defend Systems, specializes in physical security consulting and active shooter mitigation training, while Tom’s company, Herring Technology, focuses on being the best security technology integrator in the industry that can provide a one stop shop for any client’s technology needs.
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