Episode 377: Where Your Treasure Is, Your Heart Follows
Transforming Mission Podcast with Tim Bias & Sara Thomas
Release Date: 09/02/2025
Transforming Mission Podcast with Tim Bias & Sara Thomas
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info_outlineIn Episode 377 of the Transforming Mission Podcast, Tim and Sara unpack Jesus’ words in Luke 12:32–34: “Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” Together, they explore what it means to lead in God’s economy of abundance, trust, and generosity. This conversation contrasts the world’s economy of scarcity and possessions with God’s call to prioritize people, mission, and love. From church budgets to personal leadership decisions, Tim and Sara challenge us to examine what we treasure, because our hearts always follow. Listen in for practical steps to:
-Shift from fear to trust in leadership
-Recognize how budgets reveal our values
-Focus on people over possessions
-Lead with open hands and kingdom priorities
Discover how God’s economy shapes faithful leadership today. Read more and listen to episode 377 at https://transformingmission.org/377
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00:00 Introduction and Scripture Reading
00:47 Comfort and Challenge of God's Economy
01:59 Contrasting God's Economy with Worldly Economy
03:45 Leadership in God's Economy
05:07 Trust and Resources in God's Economy
07:49 The Radical Trust in Jesus' Teachings
10:43 Treasures and Priorities in God's Kingdom
15:40 Practical Applications and Stories