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730 | Saving Wild Salmon with Rick Williams – Snake River Dams, Managed Extinction, Steelhead Conservation

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Release Date: 03/12/2025

870 | Fly Fishing the Eleven Point River with Justin Spencer show art 870 | Fly Fishing the Eleven Point River with Justin Spencer

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870 Show Notes: Presented by:  ,  , , Somewhere deep in the Ozarks, Missouri splits in two. One side is farmland and highways. The other is the Eleven Point River, where everything goes quiet. No houses. No roads. Just cold, spring-fed water sliding through Mark Twain National Forest and miles of wild trout water where you can float for hours without seeing anyone. In this episode, we dig into fly fishing the Eleven Point River and the surrounding Ozark streams with Justin Spencer. We talk about his indicator jig system, why movement matters more than anything, when the fishing is...

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869 | Beyond the Giveaway: Missouri River Dry Fly Fishing with Eric Johnson show art 869 | Beyond the Giveaway: Missouri River Dry Fly Fishing with Eric Johnson

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Show Notes: Https://wetfyswing.com/869 Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Blooming olives were popping. Trout were rising everywhere. And Eric Johnson was sitting in a drift boat on the Missouri River, staring at one of those dry fly days you don’t forget. What makes this episode different is that Eric isn’t a guide, brand rep, or longtime lodge regular. He’s the actual winner of our On DeMark Dry Fly Giveaway, and this conversation is a full behind-the-scenes look at what happens when someone really does win one of these trips. From the prize pack to the lodge vibe to the reach...

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868 | Davie McPhail - Fly Tying Lessons from a True Master show art 868 | Davie McPhail - Fly Tying Lessons from a True Master

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#868 Show Notes:        Sponsors:      Fly tying doesn’t start at the vise. It starts standing midstream, watching bugs drift past your boots and paying attention to what trout actually eat. That idea runs through everything in this conversation. In this episode, I sit down with Davie McPhail, one of the most influential fly tyers of our time. Davie grew up fishing Scottish rivers and lochs, learning fly tying the hard way. By watching insects, experimenting with materials, and tying flies that had to work. We dig into traditional spiders, modern...

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Emergers, Wet Flies, and Trout Behavior with Scott Sanchez (Traveled #39) show art Emergers, Wet Flies, and Trout Behavior with Scott Sanchez (Traveled #39)

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#867 Show Notes:  Presented By:   This Traveled episode connects with conversations sparked by the East Idaho Fly Tying Expo, where anglers gather to share patterns, techniques, and ideas that shape how we fish. Scott Sanchez joins us to break down one of the most important — and often misunderstood — feeding windows in fly fishing: the emerger stage. We dig into how trout feed in the surface film, how to read rise forms correctly, and why classic wet flies and soft hackles remain so effective when fish aren’t fully committing to dries. It’s a thoughtful, observation-driven...

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866 | Swinging for Alaska Chinook and Great Lakes Browns with Bailey Adamavich show art 866 | Swinging for Alaska Chinook and Great Lakes Browns with Bailey Adamavich

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863 Show Notes: Presented by:    Today’s story bridges two very different worlds: the tight banks and icy tributaries of the Great Lakes, and the raw, tidal power of Western Alaska. Bailey Adamavich learned to fish where forty-foot casts matter and low water forces precision, then carried that foundation straight into blown-out rivers, chrome-bright kings, and some of the most intense Chinook grabs you can imagine. Bailey was our guide on the Togiak River, and we talked through one of my best days ever swinging for king salmon. We also dig into how Great Lakes tactics translate to...

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A Fly Fisher’s Guide to Jackson Hole with Fish the Fly Guide Service show art A Fly Fisher’s Guide to Jackson Hole with Fish the Fly Guide Service

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#865b Show Notes:       Presented by: Jason Balogh is back from Fish the Fly Guide Service to recap his season around Jackson Hole and break down how he introduces new anglers to fly fishing. We cover beginner-friendly gear, dry dropper setups, casting basics, and how to read water on big Western rivers like the Snake. Show Notes:   

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865 | Trout Spey Set Up and Casting Fundamentals with Nick Conklin show art 865 | Trout Spey Set Up and Casting Fundamentals with Nick Conklin

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Show Notes: Https://wetfyswing.com/865 Sponsors: , , and Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Last month on the Madison, I watched a perfect example of why Trout Spey exists. Wind ripping. Skinny water. A high bank behind us. Indicator rigs are getting ripped out of the drift the second they touch down. One angler finally stepped out of the rut, grabbed an 11-foot two-hander, and swung flies through water that had shut everyone else down. He wasn’t being heroic. He was listening to what the river was asking for. That moment frames this episode with Nick Conklin. We dig into...

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Using Attractor Patterns to Trigger Stillwater Trout with Phil Rowley (Littoral Zone #21) show art Using Attractor Patterns to Trigger Stillwater Trout with Phil Rowley (Littoral Zone #21)

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#864 Show Notes: Presented By: , , , Sponsors: Stillwater trout don’t always eat because they’re hungry — and that’s where many anglers get stuck. In this solo episode of the Littoral Zone Podcast, Phil Rowley breaks down the power of attraction and explains why trout often strike flies for reasons that have nothing to do with feeding. When matching the hatch fails, attractor patterns can trigger responses rooted in curiosity, aggression, and territorial instinct. Drawing from decades of stillwater experience, Phil explores when and why attractor flies work, how to fish them...

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The River Retreat Lodge with John and Liz Douville (Traveled #38) show art The River Retreat Lodge with John and Liz Douville (Traveled #38)

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863 Show Notes: Presented by:      If you’re trying to figure out where you can find giant stoneflies in July, chase technical midge eaters in March, and explore private spring creeks, all while staying in a five-star lodge that’s not priced like Jackson Hole, this episode shows you exactly where that place exists. Today we’re heading into Swan Valley, right in the heart of one of the most epic fishing zones in the West, with John and Liz Douville, owners of River Retreat Lodge. We dig into how they ended up buying a lodge in the middle of COVID, why March might actually...

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862 | Inside the Hidden World of Fly-Fishing Collectibles with Jim Adams show art 862 | Inside the Hidden World of Fly-Fishing Collectibles with Jim Adams

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Show Notes: Https://wetfyswing.com/862 Sponsors: , , and  Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors There’s a certain kind of fly fishing knowledge you don’t get from a quick scroll or a gear review. You get it from someone who’s been there when the “new” stuff was being invented, watched it cycle back around, and saved the paper trail along the way. That’s what this conversation with Jim Adams felt like: a walk through the hidden world of fly-fishing collectibles, rare books, and the history behind the gear we all obsess over. Jim’s story starts way back in 1943,...

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#730 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/730

Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Four Wheel Campers, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

What if we could bring back wild salmon and steelhead to the rivers where they once thrived? With historic runs in the Columbia and Snake Rivers plummeting, it's time to ask—what can we do to reverse the damage?

Today, we chat with Rick Williams, fisheries biologist, master fly casting instructor, and co-author of Managed Extinction, a follow-up to the groundbreaking book Salmon Without Rivers. Rick breaks down the four Snake River dams, the barriers to fish recovery, and what needs to happen to restore wild salmon and steelhead populations. Plus, we dive into the hatchery debate, what history has taught us about failed management strategies, and why he still has hope for the future of these fish. If you care about the future of wild salmon and steelhead, this episode is for you. Let’s get into it!

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/730