CJ's Reel Southern Podcast #1 | Chad Johnson and Alex Lafkas - Streamers from Michigan to Arkansas
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Release Date: 03/26/2025
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Show Notes: Presented By: , , Sponsors: What if the river rose, the wind calmed, and a 30-inch brown slid into view—would you be ready? Deep in the heart of Argentina’s Patagonia, chances like this don’t come often. Today, we’re heading south to chase migratory browns in crystal-clear water and find out what it takes to hook up when it matters most. Ron Sorenson, owner of Chocolate Lab Expeditions, takes us inside the Limay River—where trout hit like steelhead, driftboats rule, and the hatches are still sacred. You’ll hear when to go, how to fish it, and why this might...
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#751 Show Notes: Presented by: , Sponsors: In this episode, we're joined once again by one of the most well-traveled fly anglers in the world — Jeff Currier. Jeff has now caught over 480 species on the fly, and he’s still going strong with his goal of hitting 500. From the Amazon to Africa, Australia to the Himalayas, Jeff shares some of his favorite fishing destinations, species stories, and a few close calls along the way. If you’ve ever dreamed of planning a global fly fishing trip, this episode is packed with tips and inspiration to get you started. Show...
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#750 Show Notes: Today on CJ's Reel Southern Podcast, we're going musky fishing in the Northwoods with guide Chris Willen. Chris breaks down how early-season smallmouth keep things interesting before musky season kicks off, and why northern muskies play a totally different game than their southern counterparts. We’re talking fly patterns that move big fish, the water conditions that make or break a day, and the one thing you have to get right before your next shot at a musky. Or risk blowing your shot at a fish of a lifetime. Don’t miss this one—especially if musky’s on...
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# 749 Show Notes: Presented By: Today, we catch up with Ryan Burch, high school pottery teacher by day, and adventurer behind Tales of the 48 by summer. Ryan is gearing up for the ultimate fly fishing road trip in his fully loaded Four Wheel Camper. He’s aiming to connect with fish, places, and people across the country—starting this summer with the eastern U.S. You’ll hear how Ryan is making this dream happen with help from Orvis, Four Wheel Campers, and a camera crew that includes his little sister and his dog. He shares his travel and packing tips, how he’s organizing life on the...
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#748 Show Notes: Presented by: , Sponsors: What does it take to build the top fishing magazine in Alaska—and still find time to chase 30-inch rainbows and 250-pound salmon sharks? In this episode, we sit down with Marcus Weiner, founder of Fish Alaska Magazine, to explore his favorite Alaska fish species, epic float trips, and the evolution of fly fishing culture in the Last Frontier. From top fishing tips for sockeye and dollies to behind-the-scenes stories about moose hunting and conservation, Marcus shares 23+ years of hard-earned wisdom from the rivers,...
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#747 Show Notes: Presented By: Swinging flies for Atlantic salmon in an area made famous by Lee Wulff? Our guest today has been doing just that for over 50 years. Rod Brophy, Master Guide at Mountain Waters Resort, breaks down his favorite surface techniques—including bombers, the Portland Hitch, and the classic riffle hitch. You’ll hear how he rigs his leader, what flies he uses year-round, and what it was like growing up in one of the most iconic salmon fisheries in the world. If you’re ready to step into Atlantic salmon territory and experience the thrill of the surface take,...
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#746 Show Notes: Presented By: , Would you board a 9-hour flight to catch trout in Patagonia or brave a three-hour mule ride into a river camp in Chile—all for the chance to fish water most people will never see? Today we’re joined by Chris Hunt, longtime fly fishing writer and co-founder of Hatch Adventure Travel. Chris shares what it takes to plan bucket-list fly fishing trips around the world, from the Missouri River and Idaho’s backcountry to Cuba, Argentina, and British Columbia. We’ll get his best travel hacks, hear how Hatch Travel started in the middle of a...
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#745 Show Notes: Presented By: , The Fly Fishing Film Tour started with a small group of anglers looking for something fresh. Today, these films are part of a new wave of storytelling in fly fishing. Our guest, RA Beattie, has been there since the beginning. In this episode, RA shares his journey and highlights from his films, including The Silent Spotter, a story about a deaf guide. We also dive into his connection with Clyde the Car and how he stays motivated despite changes in the industry. Plus, we’ll learn how he built a company making sustainable wood for guitars. Show Notes:...
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#744 Show Notes: Presented by: , , Sponsors: We sit down with the legendary Jack Dennis—author, guide, fly tier, and storyteller with a legacy stretching back over 50 years in the fly fishing world. From founding Team USA and the Jackson Hole One Fly to filming iconic episodes with Curt Gowdy and hanging with Ted Williams, Jack shares some of the most memorable moments in the history of the sport. We talk about the making of his Western Trout Fly Tying Manual, his friendships with Lee Wulff and Joan Wulff, and the rise and shift of fly fishing culture over the decades....
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#743B Show Notes: Presented By: Today’s guest is Josh Miller, a Pennsylvania-based guide and coach for Team USA’s Youth Fly Fishing Team. He’s helped shape some of the best young anglers in the world, and in this conversation, he’s sharing his roadmap for preparing for new water, making smarter decisions on the river, and understanding the nuances of fly presentation. Whether you’re prepping for a new fishing destination or just want to up your game, Josh has plenty of insights to share. Show Notes:
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Welcome to the very first episode of CJ’s Reel Southern Podcast! This podcast is all about one thing—trophy fishing. Whether it’s brown trout, smallmouth, stripers, or even musky, we’re diving deep into the tactics, flies, and mindset it takes to target big fish.
To kick things off, Chad Johnson is joined by Alex Lafkas from Michigan—a longtime streamer junkie and one of the fishiest guys I know. They swap stories about their early days figuring out the White River, compare notes on streamer retrieves, fly patterns, and how to read fish behavior. Plus, you’ll hear a quick monthly update from Morgan Guss of Diamond State Fly Shop on what to look for in the Ozarks this time of year.
If you love chasing big fish and geeking out on gear and techniques, you’re in the right place. Let’s get into it.
Episode Chapters with Chad Johnson and Alex Lafkas on Streamers from Michigan to Arkansas
Fishing the Ozarks: March Update with Morgan Guss
March is a big transition month for fishing in the Ozarks. Water levels fluctuate, bringing both challenges and opportunities. Streamer fishing can be hot, especially near the dam during shad kills. Minnow patterns remain a solid bet throughout the river. On the lakes, stripers, largemouth, and crappie start moving as the water warms. Whether you’re fishing the rivers or the reservoirs, now’s the time to get out and find some big fish.
Streamer fishing for big browns has deep roots in Michigan, but it has evolved in places like Arkansas' White River. Alex Lafkas shares how adapting to different water conditions is key. In Michigan, extreme seasonal shifts change fish behavior, while Arkansas’ tailwaters stay within a smaller temperature range. This means retrieves, fly selection, and feeding patterns vary between the two regions. Timing also plays a huge role—understanding when and where the biggest fish move makes all the difference. Whether you’re chasing trophy trout up north or in the Ozarks, learning how to read the water is the secret to success.
Feeding vs. Aggression: Understanding the Brown Trout Bite
When streamer fishing for big browns, knowing the difference between a feeding bite and an aggression bite is key. Smaller flies, like sculpins and minnow patterns, work best when fish are actively feeding. But when targeting trophy fish, upsizing to seven or eight-inch streamers can trigger an aggressive reaction. These big fish aren’t always hungry, but they will strike to defend their territory.
In Michigan and Arkansas, seasonal changes and water conditions affect how trout react. During winter and early spring, minnows and sculpins are prime food sources. As water warms, trout shift to eating crayfish and hoppers. Understanding these seasonal patterns helps anglers choose the right fly and increase their chances of hooking a trophy brown.
The Power of Water Temperature in Fly Fishing
Water temperature affects more than just whether fish are active—it helps determine what they eat. Instead of just thinking about if it's too hot or too cold to fish, anglers should use temperature to decide on fly selection and approach.
- Cold Water (Winter & Early Spring): Minnow and sculpin patterns work best.
- Warming Water (Late Spring & Summer): Trout key in on crayfish and larger prey.
- 50-Degree Sweet Spot: Brown trout tend to jump more when water hits 50°F.
The Power of the Pause in Streamer Fishing
When fishing streamers for big brown trout, knowing when to pause can make all the difference. Brown trout naturally feed in the drift, meaning they often strike when the fly stops moving. If you don’t give them that chance, you’re missing fish.
- A long pause lets the fly hang in the water, making it look like an easy meal.
- Fast retrieves can work in shallow water but should still include pauses.
- A trout that follows five feet behind the fly isn’t likely to eat—focus on the ones that charge in.
The key takeaway? Don’t overwork the fly. If a fish is committed, let it eat!
Reading the Fish: How Body Language Can Make or Break Your Catch
One of the biggest mistakes anglers make is focusing too much on their fly and not enough on the fish. Trout will tell you what they want if you pay attention. A fish that follows but doesn’t eat may need a different angle, speed, or presentation. Instead of just changing flies, try adjusting your retrieve or adding weight.
- Watch their behavior – If a trout is tracking your fly but hesitates, try a head-first approach.
- Use the right depth – Fish will rarely rise far to eat, but they will crush a fly that drifts naturally into their zone.
- Stick with what’s working – If one color or pattern has been producing, keep it in the mix, even when the bite slows.
Big fish aren’t just about luck—they're about reading the water, adjusting, and making the right move at the right time.
Chasing the Bite: Why Big Fish and Tough Days Are Worth It
Streamer fishing isn’t about numbers—it’s about the chase. The goal isn’t to catch the most fish, but to land the one that makes your whole day. Big browns, like trophy bass or muskies, take patience and persistence. The bite windows are short, the effort is high, but the reward is unforgettable.
- Match the fly to the conditions – Olive and white is a staple, but don’t ignore subtle shifts in water color and light.
- Read the fish – Watch their body language and adjust your retrieve. A following fish isn’t always a feeding fish.
- Stick to your game – Whether it’s throwing big streamers, chasing a trophy, or dialing in a new technique, fish the way that excites you.
The One Thing Most Anglers Get Wrong
Want to fish big streamers? Get your casting right first. Alex sees it all the time—anglers spend thousands on a guided trip but never put in the time to practice casting. A solid double haul and accurate placement can make or break your day.
- Tight loops matter – A sloppy cast won’t get the job done with big flies.
- Backhand casts are key – Keep those heavy streamers away from your guide’s head.
- Practice before your trip – A little time on the lawn or a local pond can save you frustration on the water.
A simple fix? Take a casting lesson. Spend an hour dialing in your cast, and you’ll get way more out of your next trip.
Connect with Alex & Chad Johnson
If you're looking to book a trip in Michigan or Arkansas, Alex takes new clients when available—just email him at [email protected].
For guided trips in the Ozarks, Chad Johnson is booking trips through CJ’s White River Outfitter. Whether you're after big browns or smallmouth, he and his team have you covered.
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