254: Coaching vs. Therapy: How to Know What You (or Your Clients) Really Need
Release Date: 06/16/2025
What to Say & How to Say It
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What if the breakthrough in your marriage isn’t about fixing your spouse—but owning your part? In this episode, Shy Lewis and Nina Roesner continue the Healing Generational Trauma series with Step 5: The Power of Taking Responsibility. This is one of the hardest—and most transformative—steps in healing. When God gently invites us to look at our part (not our spouse’s, not our past), it can feel uncomfortable… even scary. But biblical responsibility isn’t about shame—it’s about freedom. In this conversation, you’ll learn: The difference between...
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What if the very thing that feels uncomfortable… is actually where your healing begins? In this episode of What to Say and How to Say It, Shy Lewis and Nina Roesner unpack Step 4 of healing generational trauma—learning to receive gentle truth from the Holy Spirit. This is the turning point. It’s where defensiveness fades, clarity increases, and real transformation begins. Instead of shame or fear, God meets us with truth that restores, rebuilds, and redefines who we are. You’ll learn: How to recognize the voice of the Holy Spirit vs. fear, shame, or accusation Why truth can feel...
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Welcome to today’s episode of What to Say and How to Say It with Nina Roesner and Kyle Hargrove. Have you ever confronted someone… only to somehow end up feeling like you’re the problem? You’re not crazy—and you’re not alone. In this episode, we unpack a powerful and often misunderstood manipulation tactic called DARVO: 👉 Deny 👉 Attack 👉 Reverse Victim and Offender This pattern is more common than you think—and it can quietly damage marriages, relationships, and even your sense of identity if you don’t recognize it. ...
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In this episode of What to Say and How to Say It, Shy Lewis and Nina Roesner continue their series on healing generational trauma using the Connection Steps. Many of us learned how to survive growing up—pushing down emotions, overfunctioning, or trying to fix everyone else. But God doesn’t heal us by shaming our pain. He heals us by comforting it. Today we talk about how to move from survival mode to soothing, learning to become a safe place for your own heart while receiving God’s comfort. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why many families pass down emotional neglect How trauma...
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Marriage problems often begin when “we” turns into “me.” In this episode of What to Say and How to Say It, Nina Rosner and licensed professional counselor Kyle Hargrove talk about how selfishness quietly damages marriages and why many relationships become transactional over time. They discuss how the enemy uses blame, resentment, and score-keeping to divide couples—and how shifting from “What’s in it for me?” to “What’s in me for it?” can transform a relationship. You’ll also hear a simple framework for healthy connection in marriage: 5 – How can I help you? 4 –...
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What do you do when your marriage is hard… but not abusive? How do you stay healthy when the relationship feels disconnected, disappointing, or exhausting? In today’s episode of What to Say and How to Say It, host Shy Lewis sits down with licensed counselor Lyndee Horne, founder of Narrow Gate Counseling Services, to talk about what it truly means to show up in a healthy way in a difficult marriage. This conversation is for the Christian woman who: Feels disconnected in her marriage Struggles with people-pleasing or codependency Is unsure what biblical submission...
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Many of us were taught that emotions were dangerous — too loud, too weak, too sinful, or simply inconvenient. In Part 2 of our Breaking Generational Trauma series, Shai Lewis and Nina Rosner explore why normalizing emotion is a powerful step toward healing your marriage and disrupting painful family patterns. If you grew up hearing: “Be strong.” “Just pray about it.” “Other people have it worse.” “You’re overreacting.” …then this episode is for you. We discuss: ✔️ Why suppressing emotions creates disconnection ✔️ How unprocessed...
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Generational trauma doesn’t start with cruelty—it starts with avoidance. In this episode of What to Say and How to Say It, Shai Lewis and Nina Rosner talk about “the interruption”—the courageous first step that breaks unhealthy family patterns and begins real healing: recognition. Because what we refuse to name… we repeat. Many families survive by staying silent.“We don’t talk about that.”“That’s just how they are.”“Why bring up the past?” But silence protects dysfunction—and keeps marriages stuck. Today we discuss: What generational trauma...
info_outlineIs it time for coaching—or therapy? 🤔 In this raw and honest conversation, communication expert Nina Rosner teams up with Kyle Hargrove, a licensed professional counselor with 30+ years of experience, to unpack the often-blurry line between coaching and counseling.
They dive into:
✅ How to spot when someone isn’t ready for coaching
âś… Key emotional red flags therapists see early on
âś… Why personal responsibility is non-negotiable in growth
âś… The difference between forward movement and emotional healing
✅ Why our culture is in an accountability crisis—and how it’s hurting marriages, parenting, and progress
Whether you’re a coach, therapist, or someone just trying to grow, this conversation will challenge you, equip you, and maybe even convict you.