CALLING IN: Making Change With People You'd Rather Cancel with Loretta J Ross
WANTcast: The Women Against Negative Talk Podcast
Release Date: 02/04/2025
Going No Contact, Low Contact, and The Truth About LOW EFFORT FAMILIES with Dr. Sherrie Campbell
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When family dynamics are painful, confusing, and chronically one-sided, the usual advice (“but it’s your parent” / “family is everything” / “just forgive and move on”) can make you feel even more trapped. In the season finale of the WANTcast, Dr. Sherrie Campbell — clinical psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker — breaks down what actually separates everyday conflict from emotionally abusive family systems, why “no contact” is often misunderstood, and how to protect your peace without getting sucked back into the old roles. We talk about: What emotional abuse looks like...
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MAKING FRIENDS: What is Modern Friendship + How To Make (and Keep) Real Friends with Anna Goldfarb (Best Of)
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How do you make friends as an adult — REAL-DEAL friends — and how do you nurture these valued connections? Today's guest is journalist, MODERN FRIENDSHIP author, and friendship researcher Anna Goldfarb, who has been called the "New York Times Friendship Correspondent." She's here with us to dig into the nuances of the #1 most-asked question throughout all of WANT's 10+ year history: how do I find my people? IN THIS EPISODE WE TALK ABOUT... The main reasons why friendships naturally shift after 30 (why that’s more normal than you think, and what you can do to address it) ...
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HORTICULTURAL THERAPY: How Nature Can Heal Stress, Burnout, and Anxiety with Jessica Murnane
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Author, creative consultant, and horticultural therapy practitioner Jessica Murnane (a WANTcast favorite!) joins us today on the WANTcast to talk about discovering horticultural therapy, building an offline-first business, and the very real mental, physical, social, and emotional benefits of getting your hands in the dirt. In this episode, we dig into (pun intended) community vs. solo practices, rethinking social media for your values (and sanity), how nature rituals can rewire scarcity mindset, and so much more. WE TALK ABOUT: What horticultural therapy actually is — and why...
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OCD + SELF-TALK: The Truth About Obsessive Compulsive Disorder w/ Dr. Patrick McGrath
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Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) affects an estimated 1 in 40 adults and 1 in 100 children in the U.S. — yet it remains one of the most misunderstood and misdiagnosed mental health conditions. Too often portrayed as a “quirk” or a preference for cleanliness, OCD is actually a complex and often debilitating disorder rooted in anxiety and doubt. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Patrick McGrath, Chief Clinical Officer at NOCD, for a candid, deeply practical conversation about what OCD really is, how it shows up (far beyond stereotypes), and what actually helps. We dig into the...
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INTENTIONAL AMATEURISM: In Defense Of Dabbling with Karen Walrond
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After a short micro-break, Katie returns with author, lawyer, leadership coach, and all-around light-maker Karen Walrond to celebrate the joy of being an INTENTIONAL AMATEUR. Instead of hustling every interest into a side-gig, Karen invites us to dabble for the love of it — no end game required. They unpack why hobbies matter, how to find ones that actually feel like relief, and the seven attributes that make play a true self-care practice. IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS: Why Karen resists the “be better” subtext of self-help when it comes to hobbies Reclaiming the word...
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MILLENNIAL MENOPAUSE: The Care And Keeping Of YOU with Lauren A. Tetenbaum
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What if you had a guidebook for the next big hormonal transition...The Care and Keeping of You for grownup women? In today's episode, we’re talking about the next ~period~ of your life (literally and figuratively :)) with therapist and women’s health advocate Lauren Tetenbaum. Her new book MILLENNIAL MENOPAUSE is part education, part empowerment, and full of real-talk about prepping for perimenopause. IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS: What makes this generation uniquely suited to talk about menopause and perimenopause Common early signs of perimenopause How to self-advocate with...
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COMPLIMENTS: How To Give and Receive Compliments (and Why It Matters More Than You Think)
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When was the last time you received a compliment without brushing it off? How about GAVE a compliment that you really, really meant...without prefacing it with "I hope this isn't weird, but..." ?? In this episode of the WANTcast, we’re talking about something that seems simple on the surface but can have a huge impact on your self-talk, relationships, and confidence: COMPLIMENTS. Whether you're great at giving them, awkward at receiving them, or somewhere in between, this episode breaks down WHY compliments actually matter a lot — and how to make compliments feel natural and...
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NO NEW THINGS: How to Rethink Your Relationship with Stuff with Ashlee Piper
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Today on the WANTcast, we're sitting down with sustainability expert, bestselling author, and award-winning changemaker Ashlee Piper to explore her latest movement and book: No New Things. Ashlee — whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Vogue, CNN, and Good Morning America — breaks down how a personal challenge to stop buying new stuff became a lifestyle shift, viral movement, and 30-day guide to help you save money, reduce overwhelm, and create meaningful impact. This isn’t a no-buy challenge or a guilt trip: it's an invitation to investigate how your stuff makes you feel,...
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WHERE DID MY MOTIVATION GO: What to Do When You Have ZERO Drive To Keep Going (or even start)
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We ALL hit moments where motivation feels completely out of reach. Sometimes, it just...disappears. Whether you're struggling to start something new, feeling stuck in a rut, or just can’t seem to get going, this episode is for you. In this episode, we're doing a no-bs deep dive into not just how to spark motivation when it’s barely there, but what to do when your drive to keep going is nowhere to be found (and nothing you see, hear, read, or think seems to change that). We'll discuss: Why motivation isn’t always necessary to make progress How to spark motivation when you feel stuck The...
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FEAR OF STARTING: Why I Waited 10 Years to Start a Video Podcast (And What FINALLY Pushed Me Forward)
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Big news: after nearly a decade of podcasting, we're finally taking the leap into video — and it’s TERRIFYING. In this solo episode, Katie gets real about what’s held her back, why exactly comparison and (ironically) experience have been her biggest roadblocks, and how she's embracing beginner mode *publicly* to break free from perfectionism. If you’ve ever felt stuck because you don’t have it all figured out, this episode is for you. We talk about: The hidden fears that keep us from starting something new Why “manageable” can sometimes stunt our growth How comparison sneaks in...
info_outlineHow do you start to make change happen with people when you'd rather call them out or cancel them altogether? Are calling out or cancelling ever effective? And...is there a different way to actually make change happen (that minimizes the chances of burning out or losing your mind in the process)?
Today on the WANTcast we are talking to LEGENDARY human rights activist Loretta J. Ross, author of the new book CALLING IN: How To Start Making Change With Those You'd Rather Cancel. In this groundbreaking conversation, we'll talk about:
- The 5-C continuum of Calling In, Calling Out, Calling On, Cancelling, and Calling it Off
- How to do better "threat assesments"
- Loretta's pivotal moment and first "calling in" experience with people who seemed the most unlikely to want to change
- How to turn potential conflict into conversation
and more!!
**CW: this conversation contains mention of rape
**Want to read along? Check the "transcript" option in your podcast player!
BIO:
Loretta J. Ross is an activist, professor, and public intellectual. In her five decades in the human rights movement, she’s deprogramed white supremacists, taught convicted rapists the principles of feminism, and organized the second-largest march on Washington (surpassed only by the 2017 Women’s March). A cofounder of the National Center for Human Rights Education and the SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective, her many accolades and honors include a 2022 MacArthur Fellowship and a 2024 induction into the National Women’s Hall of Fame. Today, Ross is an associate professor at Smith College in Northampton, Massachusetts, and a partner with 14th Strategies Consultants, with which she runs “Calling In” training sessions at organizations around the country.
Loretta has co-written three books on reproductive justice: Undivided Rights: Women of Color Organize for Reproductive Justice in 2004; Reproductive Justice: An Introduction in March 2017; and Radical Reproductive Justice: Foundations, Theory, Practice, Critique in October 2017. Her newest book, Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You'd Rather Cancel is available TODAY, wherever books are sold.
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SHOW NOTES:
Calling In courses + education
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