Ep. 391: “Shaping the Felt Environment” – The Science and Practice of Emotional Wisdom in the Workplace with Joshua Freedman of Six Seconds EQ Network
Release Date: 03/03/2026
Workplace Innovator Podcast | Enhancing Your Employee Experience | Facility Management | CRE | Digital Workplace Technology
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info_outlineJoshua Freedman is CEO and cofounder of Six Seconds, the global emotional intelligence (EQ) network where he is passionate about helping organizations achieve higher engagement, better leadership, and scalable culture change. Mike Petrusky asks Joshua about his new book, “Emotion Rules: The Science and Practice of Emotional Wisdom”, in which he equips leaders with scientific and practical tools for harnessing emotional intelligence to create a positive "felt environment" at work. Emotional intelligence is not only individually measurable but can also be assessed and developed at the organizational level to improve workplace culture and team effectiveness, so Joshua says emotional data is just as important as cognitive data in decision-making and leadership. Mike and Joshua discuss the increasing complexity and rapid change in the workplace today and explore how authenticity, empathy, and the willingness to acknowledge emotions in the workplace can help leaders to build trust and facilitate successful change management strategies. Tune in to hear the inspiration and encouragement that you will need to be a Workplace Innovator in your organization!
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