Steve Lillywhite: Making “Fairytale of New York” with Kirsty MacColl & The Pogues (#262)
Release Date: 11/30/2025
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info_outlineIn this episode of the XS Noize Podcast, Mark Millar is joined by legendary producer Steve Lillywhite — the Grammy-winning studio mastermind behind iconic records by U2, The Rolling Stones, Talking Heads, The Smiths, The Killers, Peter Gabriel, and many more.
Steve talks about the release of a brand-new 4-track EP featuring a completely unreleased live version of “Fairytale of New York” — recorded at Glasgow Barrowlands in December 1987. This historic performance captures the first time The Pogues ever played the song live, and the first time Kirsty MacColl performed it onstage with the band. The EP is released on 12 December.
Recorded by Steve himself — producer of the original version and then-husband of Kirsty MacColl — the Barrowlands tape offers a rare window into the early live life of what has become the UK’s favourite Christmas song for over a decade. Originally charting at No. 2 in 1987, “Fairytale of New York” has returned to the UK Top 20 every year since 2005.
Steve reflects on the making of the classic track, the energy of that unforgettable night in Glasgow, and key moments from across his remarkable career.
Listen to Steve Lillywhite discuss the new EP, the legacy of Fairytale of New York, and the stories behind his legendary productions — exclusively on the XS Noize Podcast.
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