The Dream Boat
Everything you want to know about dreams! Hosts Dave Billington and Laura Payne and their guests talk about all the dream experiences, ideas, and theories there are, as well as ways of working with dreams and going further with your nighttime adventures. Laura and Dave are both psychotherapists and teachers at the Dream Research Institute (DRI), the centre for dream studies at psychotherapy training college CCPE in London, UK.
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Series 5, Episode 10 – MORE DREAM QUESTIONS ANSWERED
04/24/2025
Series 5, Episode 10 – MORE DREAM QUESTIONS ANSWERED
Once again we’ve come to the end of another series and once again we’re going to end with our popular Q&A session. Thanks for listening and joining us on board the Dream Boat this time round. We love having you here and enjoy reading your thoughts and questions. Dave pops back on board to join Laura for the wrap up and they tackle some great dream themes in this session, including toilet dreams and funeral dreams, discussing their psychological implications and the importance of ‘letting go’ for personal transformation. Whereas toilet dreams can reflect bodily needs or deeper psychological issues, funeral dreams signify the need for ritualistic closure and rebirth. They discuss how dreams can serve as a reflection of unmet needs in waking life and how the process of letting go can be both challenging and necessary for growth, leading to deeper self-awareness and emotional processing. They also address the impact of intense dreams on sleep quality and the significance of sleep hygiene and mindfulness in achieving restful sleep. Laura discusses mindfulness techniques from her book Nine Steps to a Mindful Life Without Meditating which can help calm the mind before sleep. Laura’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nine-Steps-Mindful-Without-Meditating/dp/0995488908 END OF SHOWNOTES Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 9 - WHO IS THE DREAMER – A DEEP DIVE INTO THE WORLD OF WHO ARE WE?
04/10/2025
Series 5, Episode 9 - WHO IS THE DREAMER – A DEEP DIVE INTO THE WORLD OF WHO ARE WE?
What happens at the intersection of dreams and consciousness? In this conversation, Laura is joined again by Maria to explore the profound notion of one very powerful question: WHO IS THE DREAMER. Their guest to help dismantle this philosophical dream knot is Dr. Newton Kondaveti, of Quantum Life University near Hyderabad in India. Dr Kondaveti shares his insights into the relationship between dreams and consciousness, the significance of lucid dreaming, which can pinpoint the path to a higher awareness. He also considers the concept of the Akashic records, a cosmic library or energetic archive of all universal events, thoughts, words and emotions. They discuss how dreams serve as a tool for self-discovery and can alleviate suffering. Dreams contain hidden dimensions of our existence with dreams revealing hidden dimensions not accessible in waking life, as well as providing insights into past and future experiences. Dr. Kondaveti discusses his work at the Quantum Life University (QLU), emphasizing the importance of understanding dreams in the context of spiritual science and personal growth and the university’s aim of blend spirituality with scientific understanding. QLU is on qluglobal.com Insta:qlugobal Youtube.com/qluglobal END OF SHOWNOTES Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 8 – Ayahuasca Dreaming & Other Psychedelics
03/20/2025
Series 5, Episode 8 – Ayahuasca Dreaming & Other Psychedelics
Laura and Maria delve into the fascinating intersection of psychedelics, dreams, and shamanic practices. They are joined by one of the leading researchers in this field Dr Simon Ruffell of Onaya Science. Together they explore how psychedelics like ayahuasca and psilocybin are being integrated into modern medicine and the role dreams play in this process. They discuss the cultural significance of dreams in shamanic training, the differences in dream interpretation between Western and indigenous perspectives, and personal experiences with dream codes that predict future events. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding these experiences within their cultural contexts and the potential for deeper insights into mental health and spirituality. In this conversation the intricate relationship between dreams, psychedelics, and cultural interpretations are explored. They discuss the significance of ayahuasca in dream experiences, the differences between psychedelic states and psychosis, and the political factors influencing psychedelic research. Simon shares his initiative to bridge indigenous knowledge with scientific inquiry, emphasizing the importance of collaboration. The discussion concludes with reflections on the achttps://onaya.science/cessibility of dream sharing and the transformative potential of psychedelics in understanding the psyche. Dr Simon Ruffell can be found at Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 7 - The Sandman & other sleep time visitors
03/06/2025
Series 5, Episode 7 - The Sandman & other sleep time visitors
What does it mean when we say that the Sandman has been when we awake? In this conversation, Laura is joined by a new co-host Maria Nazdravan of the DRI and they explore the mythological figures associated with dreams and nightmares such as the Sandman. They consider the Sandman myth, his link with Danish fairytale writer Hans Christian Anderson and various mythical creatures like the Baku and the Oneiroi. They discuss the possible origin of the word nightmare and look at how all these figures reflect childhood fears, cultural beliefs, and the significance of dreams throughout history. Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 6 – Can We Have Smelly Dreams?
02/20/2025
Series 5, Episode 6 – Can We Have Smelly Dreams?
In this conversation, Laura meets ‘smellologist’ Keren Bester to explore the intricate relationship between smell and dreams. They delve into Keren's PhD research on olfactory perception and its philosophical implications and how this can relate to dreams. They discuss how smell influences memory and personhood, the impact of COVID when many people, who lost their sense of smell (anosmia), realised the importance of this mainly unconscious sense in their lives. They also look at the potential for using smell as a tool in lucid dreaming and whether certain smells can provoke good or bad dreams. And are you one of the few people who can actually smell something in a dream? Do you have smelly dreams? If so, Keren would like to hear from you. Her contact details are below. Keren shares her personal journey and the challenges of researching a sense that is often overlooked and vital to our sense of Self. Keren’s website is (an updated version is coming soon!) She’s keen to hear from people who: - have experienced smell in their dreams - have explicitly experienced not being able to smell i.e. noticing in a dream they can't smell something - anyone who would like to participate in research using smell to prompt lucidity and/or influence dream content Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 5 – The Dream Boat and DRI is off to a dream incubation retreat in Greece
02/06/2025
Series 5, Episode 5 – The Dream Boat and DRI is off to a dream incubation retreat in Greece
Laura announces the DRI’s first retreat in the home of dream incubation – Epidavros in Greece. Twelve lucky people will join her and Sarah Janes from Dream Mysteries in May (see how to join the retreat link below*) for a full immersion in the ancient temple sleep practices for healing. Laura and Melinda run through the power of these ancient rituals before Laura interviews Sarah Janes about her fascinating work in this area. Sarah Janes talks about how she became fascinated by the power of dreams during childhood and what led her from jettisoning her career as a US show promoter to become a specialist in ancient dream cults through the development of her work at Dream Mysteries. Laura and Sarah discuss the beauty of Epidavros and how its magic is spell binding, especially wrapped around the myths and practices of the Greek healing God Asklepios. Sarah Jane reveals how retreatants are often called by the God himself in dreams to come out to the sanctuary and how they find her online after such a dream. Laura discusses how the God turned up for her once in a spiritual workshop before she became a psychotherapist which led her to visit the site at Epidavros and, like Sarah Janes, the visit felt like a powerful ‘coming home’. Sarah runs through what the retreatants will find at the temple and how the group will try out sleep hypnosis, purification practices, sound work and dream theatre work, in similar ways to the ancients who experienced dreaming there thousands of years ago. The two dream researchers also look at a similar incubation project in a recreated oasis in the Egyptian desert and the links between the ancient Egyptian dream incubation practices with the cult of Asklepios in the Ancient Greek and Roman worlds. *If you want to join them in May the Retreat Link is here: Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Sarah Janes at: Insta: @sarahjanesdreaming Themysteries.org DreamBoat at: Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 4 – This Jungian Life’s popular podcast comes on board The Dream Boat.
01/23/2025
Series 5, Episode 4 – This Jungian Life’s popular podcast comes on board The Dream Boat.
Dave teams up with Laura again to chat about this episode’s guest, the celebrated podcast presenter of This Jungian Life, Lisa Marchiano, and the launch of TJL’s new book Dream Wise. And The Dreamboat is pleased to announce that Lisa will be coming to the Dream Research Institute – DRI Centre for Dream Studies in London, UK on May 9 – limited tickets will be on sale via the DRI website. Subscribe to our newsletter to be the first to know when registration opens. Here’s the dedicated signup link: In this episode Laura and Lisa discuss Jungian concepts for dreaming which are covered in the new book written by Lisa alongside her podcast co-hosts and friends, Joseph Lee and Deborah Stewart. Lisa offers some great tips for remembering dreams, including research that points to vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) for improving dream vividness and recall. The book also includes a series of clever dream interpretation techniques which are entitled ‘keys’. Laura and Lisa explore the wonderful notion of the ‘Dream Maker’, and how we all relate to this aspect of dreaming - the dream authority which seems to care for us, guide us in dreams, as well as admonish us. What is this energy? They finally chat through a listener’s fascinating Dream of the Week about getting married in later life and how she swaps her bridegroom-to-be for a fox in her bed, before waking up while in the dream to shoo it out. They discuss wild animals in dreams and their sexual readings, lucidity and the strange concept of a dream within a dream. Does this represent the psyche asking for something coming into consciousness to be dealt with? Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.
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Series 5, Episode 3: Dream Healing With Sound: Famous Jungian Dreamer takes us on a sound journey
01/02/2025
Series 5, Episode 3: Dream Healing With Sound: Famous Jungian Dreamer takes us on a sound journey
Internationally renowned Jungian dreamer Sven Doehner PhD, protégé of James Hillman, comes on board to discuss the healing power of dreams using sound. Laura and Melinda also attend one of his acclaimed workshops, held at the DRI in London, UK and report back on the results. Sven talks how healing can materialize not just by playing with dream imagery and diving into meanings and symbolism but how sound can form a significant part of the healing process. Melinda and Laura discuss this and how they were impressed with Sven’s techniques during the London workshop. Sven, a Mexican, reveals how a family dream about the 1937 Hindenburg Airship disaster affected his family and how a personal dream when he met James Hillman by chance in a US bookshop resulted in Hillman, a student of Jung, taking him on as a client and student. Sven discusses his work as a Transpersonal psychotherapist and facilitator and how his workshops and retreats have taken him round the world. Sven Doehner, PhD, MFA, is a 72 year old Psychoanalyst trained in C.G. Jung´s Analytical Psychology, with James Hillman in Archetypal Psychology, as a Somatic Movement Educator, and as a Transpersonal therapist. His exploration, involvement and experience with native Ancestral Healing and Spiritual practices – begun in 1984 – is blended into his therapeutic work with others, as is his expertise in working with the Voice: “The Listening Voice”. in which he guides into discovering the vocal form of what is moving within them in a moment of particular tension. His intention is to dissolves knotts, opens space, and gives form to something new in order to restore, movement in the “being” of a person´s life. He calls this innovative proposal “The Sound Imagination”. Insta: @svendoehner
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Series 5, Episode 2: I’m Dreaming Of A Dickens Christmas - Why did Dickens always sleep facing north?
12/12/2024
Series 5, Episode 2: I’m Dreaming Of A Dickens Christmas - Why did Dickens always sleep facing north?
In this festive conversation, Laura and Melinda are joined by author Lucinda Dickens Hawksley, Dickens’ great, great, great granddaughter to explore the profound influence of Charles Dickens on Christmas traditions, dreaming and the cultural significance of his work, particularly 'A Christmas Carol.' They delve into Dickens' complex relationship with sleep and dreams, which is often explored in his novels with their themes of redemption and social responsibility, and his bizarre sleeping habits. Dickens suffered from parasomnias – sleeping disorders like hallucinations and nightmares, which are the hallmark feature of ‘A Christmas Carol’ when the ghost of Marley terrorises his business partner Ebenezer Scrooge in his sleep on Christmas Eve, with dramatic consequences. Lucinda, biographer and Victorian historian, shares insights into Victorian Christmas celebrations and personal traditions, emphasizing the importance of connection and joy during the holiday season. They discuss the enduring legacy of Dickens' storytelling and its relevance in today's world and Lucinda’s new book, ‘A Victorian Christmas’ as well as her earlier book ‘Dickens and Christmas’. Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! www.lucindahawksley.com Insta: @lucindahawksley Victorian Christmas: Traditional Recipes, Decorations, Activities and Carols, 2024, Countryman Press Inc. Dickens and Christmas, 2021, Pen and Sword History. Let us know what you think and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 5, Episode 1: An exciting Celebrity Dream Lab kicks off the new series
11/28/2024
Series 5, Episode 1: An exciting Celebrity Dream Lab kicks off the new series
In this first episode of the new series, Laura welcomes TV presenter and psychotherapist Melinda Messenger on board for the first ever Celebrity Dream Lab and then announces some surprise news. Melinda is joining the team as a co-host. Melinda and Laura tease they can get out their dreamcatchers now Dave is no longer on board though they know he’s lurking onshore as the podcast’s executive producer. They discuss Melinda's journey into the wellness community after she had a significant dream and her life-long passion for recording her dreams. The conversation explores the somatic healing power of dreams and how dreams live in the body. Laura shares how a recent transatlantic cruise on Cunard’s Queen Mary 2 continued in her dreamlife because she flew home from New York rather than coming back to the UK on board the liner, and how the psyche and body felt something was missing. The hosts discuss the significance of dream symbols, and Melinda shares a personal dream as part of the Dream Lab about a beautiful castle and jewels. They explore how this reflects her journey into psychotherapy. The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of dreams in guiding personal growth and transformation. Our dreams are worth inquiring about! Share a dream or a question via our website or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library
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Series 4, Episode 10: Yet more dream questions answered!
08/22/2024
Series 4, Episode 10: Yet more dream questions answered!
Your dream questions... answered. It's the end of Series 4, and before we take a little break, we take the opportunity to answer more of the questions sent in. Questions like: What does it mean when I hear music in a dream? And (the classic): Why do I keep dreaming about my ex? As ever, the answers lead us down some suprising, interesting, and sometimes amusing paths. Sound bites: "Music is a way of relating to those subtle aspects of ourselves that don't have to go through the cognitive filter." "Dreaming about an ex may indicate unfinished business, projection of certain qualities onto the ex, or a need to revisit and resolve emotions associated with the past relationship." Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4, Episode 9 - Dream Lab: Maria's House
08/08/2024
Series 4, Episode 9 - Dream Lab: Maria's House
Time for another Dream Lab! We love these opportunities to hear someone's dream and discuss it in real time with them. We hope you love it too! For this Dream Lab, we hear from Maria about her dream of a beautiful house and a playful and wild German shepherd dog named Bella. But what are all these Americans doing in the house? What parts of Maria's inner world are being dramatised here? Listen to our conversation and get in touch via the social media links below to let us know what you think about our exploration of this rich dreamscape that links past, present and future. Takeaways Explore the boundaries and trust within your inner world Acknowledge and trust your own emotions Integrate playful and wild aspects of yourself Find out more about Maria's work in psychotherapy, dreamwork, tarot and astrology at Your dreams are worth talking about too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #AI #individuation #art #consciousness #shadowwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4 episode 8 – Symbols we love!
07/25/2024
Series 4 episode 8 – Symbols we love!
Dave and Laura discuss the power of symbols in dreams and explore the ones they have found most meaningful, personally and professionally. Ultimately, the meaning of a symbol depends on the individual. They explore the idea of a private, internal language of symbols in dreams and the importance of understanding recurring symbols. They also discuss the concept of archetypes, symbols that transcend personal experience and become shared images within a global consciousness. Dave and Laura share their own favourite symbols and discuss the significance of landscapes, mountains, water, fire, and the elements in dreams. Your dream images and symbols are worth sharing too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Keywords symbols, dreams, interpretation, personal, individual, recurring symbols, archetypes, landscapes, mountains, water, fire, elements Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness #symbol Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4 episode 7 – Dreamapalooza! Impressions of the 2024 IASD conference
07/11/2024
Series 4 episode 7 – Dreamapalooza! Impressions of the 2024 IASD conference
Dave and Laura are joined by Maria to talk about recent conference of the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD). They share their impressions and highlights from the conference, including workshops on topics such as AI and dreams, tarot and dreams, lucid dreaming, and surrealism. They also discuss the art exhibition at the conference, which showcased dream-inspired artwork. The conversation touches on the themes of consciousness, spirituality, and the transformative power of dreams. You can attend IASD conferences too! The 2025 conference will be online, as will every second annual conference in the coming years. Keywords: IASD conference, impressions, highlights, AI and dreams, tarot and dreams, lucid dreaming, surrealism, art exhibition, consciousness, spirituality, transformative power of dreams Your dreams are worth talking about too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4. Episode 6 – Can you recognise an artificial dream? With Dr Deirdre Barrett
06/27/2024
Series 4. Episode 6 – Can you recognise an artificial dream? With Dr Deirdre Barrett
Dr Deirdre Barrett is a pioneer on the frontier of dreams and technology. This week, we bring you Laura’s interview with this Harvard psychologist, dream researcher, clinician and artist who has been pushing the bounds of new technology to increase our understanding of dreams and ask deeper questions about what generative AI tells us about dreams when it generates its own versions of novel dream reports. Can you tell the difference between an AI’s dream and a human’s? Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D. is a psychologist on the faculty of Harvard where she teaches courses on dreams to undergraduates, psychiatry residents & psychology interns, and lectures on hypnosis. She is President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams. She has written five books including Pandemic Dreams and The Committee of Sleep, She is Editor-in-Chief of the international academic journal, Dreaming. Dr. Barrett has published dozens of academic articles and chapters on dreams, hypnosis, sleep talking, and evolutionary psychology. Her current work focuses on dreams and creativity. Laura interviewed Dr. Barrett at the annual conference of the International Association for the Study of Dreams in Kerkrade in the Netherlands. For the Dream of the Week, Dr. Barrett and Laura discuss a dream that inspired one of her works of dream art, in which owls swoop down onto a woman’s head. Your dream images are worth fascinating too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @deirdre_barrett_dreams FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Season 4, Episode 5 - Dream groups: whats the point?
06/13/2024
Season 4, Episode 5 - Dream groups: whats the point?
Talk about your dreams?? 😱😬😧 …But what if there was a place where you could explore your dreams with like-minded people? Lots of people find dream groups to be a supportive environment to expand their understanding of their dreams and themselves. This week on the Dream Boat, Laura and Dave discuss the benefits and experiences of dream groups, exploring the process, symbolism, and healing aspects of sharing dreams in a group setting. The conversation delves into what it’s like to be in a dream groups, different ways of exploring dreams in a group setting, lucid dreaming, and the potential for forming dream clubs. For the Dream of the Week, Dave and Laura also analyse a (slightly scary) submitted dream, highlighting the themes of opposition, self-image, and the primal nature of the dreamer's experience. Your dream themes are worth discussing too! Share a dream via our website or the social links below! Takeaways Dream groups provide a space for individuals to share and explore their dreams in a supportive and facilitated environment. The process of sharing dreams in a group setting can lead to deep friendships, shared dream symbolism, and a heightened sense of empathy. Professional courses and peer groups offer different experiences but both have value. See for information about the short and long courses offered there. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Season 4, Episode 4 - Would you let AI interpret your dreams? With Kelly Bulkeley and Sheldon Juncker
05/30/2024
Season 4, Episode 4 - Would you let AI interpret your dreams? With Kelly Bulkeley and Sheldon Juncker
Laura and Dave go head-to-head with an AI trained to interpret dreams. Who (or what) comes up with the most meaningful interpretations? You decide! is a dream journaling app that offers interpretations powered by a GPT (generative pre-trained transformer), otherwise known as a generative AI. Kelly Bulkeley and Sheldon Juncker have been instrumental in creating and training Elsewhere to interpret dreams, and they come aboard the Dream Boat to discuss the intersection of technology and dreaming, specifically the use of AI in dream interpretation. The guests discuss the accuracy and insights provided by the AI interpretations, which draw on the work of Freud and Jung, among others. In an extended “Dream of the Week” segment, Sheldon shares a dream for Dave and Laura to explore and interpret, and then the group hears what Elsewhere had to say about it. What will the influence of AI be on dream interpretation, and are there potential benefits of using AI as a tool for self-reflection and understanding? Hopefully it's collaboration, not competition. Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., is a dream researcher and author with a background in the psychology of religion. He is director of the (as discussed on episode 2 of this series of the Dream Boat), a Senior Editor of the APA journal Dreaming, and a former President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams. Sheldon Juncker, B.Sc. is a software engineer who works in the fields of dream research, data analysis, and artificial intelligence, who in addition to his work with Dr Bulkeley on Elsewhere also helps to maintain the Sleep and Dream Database. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @kelly.bulkeley @elsewheredreams FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute @elsewheredreams
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Series 4, Episode 3 - How to Sleep to Dream
05/16/2024
Series 4, Episode 3 - How to Sleep to Dream
Dave and Laura explore techniques and practices to improve sleep and enhance dream recall. The conversation covers sleep tracking devices, the different stages of sleep, the importance of deep sleep, and the role of REM sleep in dreaming. Drawing on personal experiences with sleep as well as their therapy experience, they share tips for improving sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed. They also explore mindfulness practices and the use of dream journals to enhance dream recall. Takeaways Good sleep health is essential for improving dream recall and overall well-being. Understanding the different stages of sleep, including deep sleep and REM sleep, can help optimize sleep quality. Practicing good sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed, can improve sleep. Mindfulness practices, such as body scans and playing the day's film backwards, can help relax the mind and prepare for sleep. Keeping a dream journal and engaging in techniques to remember dreams can enhance dream recall and facilitate dream exploration. For the dream of the week, Laura reads a dream from a listener named Gordon, who experiences a profound sense of love for his daughter as he realizes he is coming to the end of his life. The dream mitigates the fear of dying through the overwhelming feeling of love. The conversation explores the connection between sleep, dreaming, and death, as well as the fear of death and its impact on sleep. Techniques for addressing death anxiety and finding meaning in life are discussed, emphasizing the importance of connection and love. Mentioned in this episode Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #insomnia Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4, Episode 2 - "We are all potentially, latently, big dreamers" - Kelly Bulkeley on The Spirituality of Dreaming
05/02/2024
Series 4, Episode 2 - "We are all potentially, latently, big dreamers" - Kelly Bulkeley on The Spirituality of Dreaming
"Dreamers, big dreamers in particular really need to step forward today. It's more important than ever, I think, to bring dreaming into the world." Dave and Laura interview Dr. Kelly Bulkeley about his book, . They explore the idea that dreaming is not just about personal insight, but also about spiritual insight for ourselves, our communities, and the world. Dr. Bulkeley emphasizes the transformative and dynamic nature of dreams and the potential for dreaming to bring about change and growth in our lives. For the Dream of the Week, Kelly shares a dream that involves flying through a shopping mall with tv character Jeff Winger. The discussion explores the symbolism of Jeff Winger and the themes of growth, narcissism, relating to others and coming down to earth. Mentioned in this episode: Dr Bulkeley’s book: The Sleep and Dream Database, with more than 40,000 dreams and tools to explore them: More of Dr Bulkeley’s books and publications: , an AI-powered dream interpretation app Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on The Boat Pod by Sophie Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 4, Episode 1 (Recurring Dream Boat): Lucid Dreaming Expert Robert Waggoner
04/18/2024
Series 4, Episode 1 (Recurring Dream Boat): Lucid Dreaming Expert Robert Waggoner
To celebrate World Lucid Dreaming Day (12 April), we’re replaying our interview with Robert Waggoner, a leading expert on lucid dreaming. One of the world’s top lucid dreamers, Robert Waggoner, joins Dave and Laura for a fascinating journey into the often so-called “rare” dream state of lucid dreaming. But as Robert will show, it’s not that rare for some people, and you can try it too. Author of and (with Caroline McCready), Robert shares how he has had over a thousand lucid dreams since he discovered he could do it whilst at high school in the US on reading Carlos Castaneda's books about Don Juan. We hear what he has learned from his lucid dreams, from tips on becoming lucid in a dream to answers to some of his questions about the nature of consciousness, which he started to explore once he got bored with flying and walking through walls in his dreams. It turns out there’s more to lucid dreaming than manipulating the dream reality, more than wish fulfilment, and certainly more than making yourself more productive. We look at the history of research into lucid dreaming. What is lucid dreaming, according to Robert Robert’s own techniques and how to try this out for yourself. Lucid games of flying, walking through walls and having sex. How to stay lucid and not wake up. The impact of the film Inception on Lucid Dreaming Neuroscience studies on the state Robert’s own principles of Lucid Dreaming and its gateway to the deeper state of amazing spiritual experiences and being connected to a larger awareness. For the Dream of the Week, Robert also shares his lucid dream in which his mother-in-law returns from the land of the dead with an important message for him. Mentioned in this episode: Lucid Advice website () Lucid Dreaming Magazine () Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on The Boat Pod by Sophie Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 3, Episode 9 – Your questions, answered (or at least thoroughly discussed!)
04/04/2024
Series 3, Episode 9 – Your questions, answered (or at least thoroughly discussed!)
In this episode, Laura and Dave answer more of your questions. Questions like, why do certain things enter our dreams but not others? Or, what do shoes symbolise? They also delve into the topics of prophetic and déjà vu dreaming, examining the mysterious nature of these experiences. We love to hear your questions. They always get us thinking! Your dreams are fascinating, too! Get in touch and tell us a dream you’d like to share. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #symbolism Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 3, Episode 8 – Laurel & Hardy and a piano on the stairs – Dream Lab (B) with Damien Moore
03/21/2024
Series 3, Episode 8 – Laurel & Hardy and a piano on the stairs – Dream Lab (B) with Damien Moore
Dream Answers to Dream Questions! A 14-year-old boy who was curious about his dreams asked two questions before going to sleep: “Can you dream in colour or in black and white?” And, “Do you need light to dream?” Laurel and Hardy helped bring answers that night, and those answers were unequivocal, funny, and meaningful, and a few decades later Damien Moore has come on the podcast to talk about that experience and some of his other fascinating dreams. Those familiar with The Dream Boat Podcast will know that in each series we have a “Dream Lab” episode in which we invite two dreamers to share a dream that we then discuss from different angles to see how it relates to the dreamer’s life and what kind of meaning can be found in it. We always enjoy talking about those dreams, and people seem to enjoy listening to them, so for Series 3, we’re expanding the format. In the last episode we heard about Yas’s recurring dream of losing her children on the train, and its resolution. This week Damien’s dream sparks a conversation about colour and humour in dreams, lucid dreams (Damien has had many lucid dreams) and the nature of consciousness itself. Laura and Dave explore the images and symbols of Damien’s night-time world using Freudian, Jungian and other psychological and philosophical frameworks. As ever, whatever ideas and interpretations may be discussed, the dream always belongs to the dreamer, and Damien is a thoughtful and wise guest who has reflected deeply on his dreams. Your dreams are fascinating, too! Get in touch via the links below and tell us a dream you’d like to share. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 3, Episode 7 – A mother's recurring anxiety dream in the Dream Lab
03/07/2024
Series 3, Episode 7 – A mother's recurring anxiety dream in the Dream Lab
Yas Floyer is a journalist and mother, and like any mother she worries about her kids (maybe with more reason that some people). So Yas brings the latest iteration of a long-recurring maternal anxiety dream into the Dream Lab to discuss it with Laura and Dave. We always get lots of questions about recurring dreams and how they evolve over time, so this is an opportunity to talk about recurrence, anxiety dreams, and what allows us to eventually let them go. Those familiar with The Dream Boat Podcast will know that in each series we have a “Dream Lab” episode in which we invite two dreamers to share a dream that we then discuss from different angles to see how it relates to the dreamer’s life and what kind of meaning can be found in it. We always enjoy talking about those dreams, and people seem to enjoy listening to them, so for Series 3, we’re expanding the format and spending this whole episode talking about Yas’s dream of losing her children on the train (and the more recent resolution of that gut-wrenching scenario). Our second dreamer, Damien, will be featured in the next episode. In this episode, we discuss the literal interpretation of the dream, looking at the real-life trauma behind it, and the natural worries of a mother watching her kids grow towards independence. We also look at the symbolism of trains, treacherous descents, and the dramatization of separation anxiety, using Freudian, Jungian and other psychological frameworks to guide us. As ever, whatever ideas and interpretations may be discussed, the dream always belongs to the dreamer, and Yas has plenty of insight of her own. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @yasfloyer FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 3, Episode 6: Death is But a Dream with Dr Christopher Kerr
02/22/2024
Series 3, Episode 6: Death is But a Dream with Dr Christopher Kerr
Who will you see as you approach the final exit? Dreams and visions at the end of life are significant and unique, according to research done at , USA. These end-of-life experiences (ELE’S) include images and experiences of those we loved who have died before us, be they parents, partners or pets. They may also be opportunities to confront and release old trauma. Dave had the opportunity for a short interview with , CEO and Chief Medical Officer at the Hospice, physician, researcher and author of , the book based on his and his team’s research on end-of-life dreams and visions. This episode includes the interview, and Laura and Dave’s discussion of the interview and the implications of the research. -- Your dreams are significant and unique, too! If you have a dream you’d like us to discuss on the podcast, contact us through the DRI website or the social media links below. -- In this episode: · – Documentary series on Netflix · – Filmmaker · – on YouTube · – Hospice chaplain Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie, Lev and Ella at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @hospicebuffalo FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute @HospiceandPalliativeCareBuffalo
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Series 3, Episode 5: Befriend Your Nightmares, Befriend your Dreams - with Dr. Leslie Ellis
02/07/2024
Series 3, Episode 5: Befriend Your Nightmares, Befriend your Dreams - with Dr. Leslie Ellis
How can your nightmare be your friend? explains why nightmares might be shouting for your attention, showing what is unmetabolised in your psyche and maybe even telling you what is needed to help that process. “The antidote is often within the dream itself,” she says. She tells us about her embodied dreamwork method for “imagining the dream forward” to discover a new way through the dream, allowing it to complete in a way that doesn’t disturb your sleep. As part of her mission to de-mystify nightmare treatment and dreamwork in general, Dr Ellis talks to us about her long experience in working with dreams and nightmares, including her doctoral research on treating the trauma-related dreams of refugees. And she shares her knowledge and enthusiasm for the Focusing work of Eugene Gendlin. For the Dream of the Week, she shares a delightful dream of a red fox that may or may not be as tame as it appears. -- Your dreams are delightful, too! If you have a dream you’d like us to discuss on the podcast, contact us through the DRI website or the social media links below. -- Dr Ellis is a leading expert in the use of experiential and somatic approaches in psychotherapy, in particular for working with dreams, nightmares and the effects of trauma. She is the author of (Routledge, 2020) and offers online training in embodied, experiential dreamwork and nightmare treatment. She has a PhD in Clinical Psychology with a somatic specialization, and a Masters in counselling psychology with a focus on depth/Jungian approaches. She worked as a therapist in private practice in Vancouver, BC for more than 25 years. She is a former adjunct faculty at Adler University, and past president of The International Focusing Institute, where she is currently a Certifying Coordinator. In this episode: Dr Ellis · · @dreamsdemystified on Instagram and Facebook · Eugene Gendlin – Focusing · · Arnie Mindell – The Dreaming Body · · The Waking Dream Process · · Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie, Lev and Ella at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @dreamsdemystified FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute @DreamsDemystified
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Series 3, Episode 4 – Jungian Dreamwork with Roderick Peters
01/25/2024
Series 3, Episode 4 – Jungian Dreamwork with Roderick Peters
“We are engines with millions of feedback loops… And dreams are a balancing process” We are joined by well-known U.K. Jungian analyst Dr Roderick Peters who’s been working in the field of dreams for more than 40 years. We look at the Jungian perspective on dreaming and its symbolic world of archetypes, opposites and individual and collective consciousness. Roderick recalls a powerful dream that he had when he was aged 3 or 4 about the nature of individuation and the separation of a child’s consciousness from that of its mother. This amazing dream has stayed with him all his life and set him on the path to studying his dreams on a daily basis since childhood. He also talks about his career as a doctor working in a sleep lab before he decided to become a Jungian psychoanalyst. Finally, Roderick joins in with offering interpretations for this episode’s Dream of the Week, sent in from a listener who goes to a dream theatre and meets a famous actress. For Roderick as a Jungian, dreams are where we explore “the organs of our psyche through the archetypes.” Dr Roderick Peters has written several books including published by Andre Deutsch. He lectures and has written many interesting papers which can be found on his website. His has a therapeutic practice in London and Surrey and is a member of the British Psychoanalytic Council. In this episode: Dr Peters’ book Website: He still has a therapeutic practice and is a member of the British Psychoanalytic Council. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie, Lev and Ella at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute
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Series 3, Episode 3: Am I dreaming or am I awake? The Lucid Talisman with Ryan Hurd
01/11/2024
Series 3, Episode 3: Am I dreaming or am I awake? The Lucid Talisman with Ryan Hurd
“Am I dreaming?” is the question you need to answer to become lucid in your dreams, and that question will also make you question what it really means to be awake. In this episode, Dave and Laura speak with educator, author and dream researcher Ryan Hurd, who teaches graduate level courses at the University for Peace in Costa Rica and National University in California, and is the driving force behind , an essential resource for anyone interested in dreams in general and lucid dreaming in particular. Ryan is interested in consciousness studies at the intersections of ecology, spirituality and material culture. His latest work is . In an open, personal, and informative conversation, Ryan tells Dave and Laura about how he started out as an archaeologist but now searches for knowledge and treasure in the depths of consciousness as revealed through dreams. He shares some of his vast knowledge on lucid dreaming, including lucid dreaming induction (learning how to have more lucid dreams) and the use of totems and the . In the Dream of the Week, he shares a heart-warming dream in which he and his infant son find that his home’s basement has become a huge, church-like space. With a background in both archaeology and dream research, Ryan currently teaches graduate level courses at University for Peace in Costa Rica and National University in California. In this episode: Ryan’s online presence: - - - on Instagram – lucid dream researcher – 2010 Christopher Nolan film – author and co-creator of the Lucid Talisman – Lucid living – teacher and author of Lucid Surrender: the Alchemy of the Soul in Lucid Dreaming – Author and teacher of lucid dreaming Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork @dreamstudiesportal @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @melindapowelldreams
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Dream Boat Recurring - S1 E3, Symbols in Dreams with Dr Nigel Hamilton
12/28/2023
Dream Boat Recurring - S1 E3, Symbols in Dreams with Dr Nigel Hamilton
We're taking a little break this week, so here's a recurrance of an episode from April 2023: Series 1, Episode 3 - Symbols in Dreams with Dr Nigel Hamilton. See you in the New Year! ___ The questions we most often get asked usually come down to “What does it mean if I dream about ____?” We all want to know more about what our dreams are saying to us and how to interpret them, and people have been compiling manuals on dream symbolism since the advent of the written word. Even today there are hundreds of books on the subject online. But should we be attached to specific meanings? Does a tooth or cat or a car come with some universal meaning attached that is the same for everyone? In this episode, Laura and Dave welcome Dr Nigel Hamilton aboard the Dream Boat to talk about personal and universal symbols in dreams and how he works with them as a psychotherapist. Nigel is a highly experienced therapist, teacher, researcher and one of the world's leading pioneers in dream interpretation techniques. He is the founder of one the world's top Transpersonal Psychotherapy colleges, the in London, co-founder of the and the former UK Representative of the Inayatiyya Sufi Order International. He has spent years studying and pioneering techniques for working with dream symbolism and his book covers some of his fascinating discoveries. He teaches workshops and leads courses on spiritual approaches to psychotherapy at CCPE. In this episode, Dr Hamilton discusses the symbolism of colours, symbols of transformation in the alchemical model, and how we can discern the personal from the universal. For our “Dream of the Week” feature, Nigel shares three brief dreams which marked particular steps in his own process. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £10 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie and Lev at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library
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Series 3, Episode 2: Melinda Powell - Living Creatively Through Lucid Dreaming
12/14/2023
Series 3, Episode 2: Melinda Powell - Living Creatively Through Lucid Dreaming
Beyond lucidity: For experienced lucid dreamers, at least some of them, the ability to live out endless fantasies gets tired pretty quickly, and they start to use their lucid dreams to explore the nature of their minds, their dreams, consciousness, and existence itself. In this episode, Laura and Dave talk to someone who has done exactly that, and written about it, and who teaches people who want to do the same: Melinda Powell. They talk about how dreams have shaped and influenced Melinda’s life and work, and the powerful messages she has received in dreams, including the directive to teach and write about what she has learned from paying attention to her inner world. Melinda is one of the Co-Founders of the DRI Centre for Dream Studies; she is a psychotherapist and teacher of dreamwork and the art of lucid dreaming, and is the author of two books about dreams, “The Hidden Lives of Dreams: What they can tell us and how they can change our World”, and “Lucid Surrender: the alchemy of the soul in lucid dreaming”. She has published and lectured widely about dreams and lucidity, and she is writing a new book called: "Dreams My Mother Taught Me: Lessons in Love, Light and Lucid Dreaming From Beyond the Grave." In this episode: Ways to find out about and contact Melinda: Melinda has a gorgeous and informative website at melindapowelldreams.com Instagram: @melindapowelldreams And see her courses, writing, interview and other contributions at Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast
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Series 3, Episode 1: Turning Nightmares into Post-Traumatic Spiritual Growth with Linda Yael Schiller
11/30/2023
Series 3, Episode 1: Turning Nightmares into Post-Traumatic Spiritual Growth with Linda Yael Schiller
What can you do when you wake up screaming, having revisited the harrowing scenes of a trauma which still haunts your nightmares? from Boston in the USA has developed the GAIA (Guided Active Imagination Approach) method to stop the endless cycle of nightmares for war trauma survivors and for anyone who suffers disturbing nightmares. We have talked about parasomnias - the official term for a variety of disturbed sleep patterns – and nightmare treatment with other guests, and in this episode, Laura and Dave talk to Linda about her work with PTSD and dreams, and how GAIA brings together best-practice trauma treatment and Jungian active imagination to turn PTSD into PTSG: Post-Traumatic Spiritual Growth. Linda’s method is systematic and clear, and has a lot in common with the Waking Dream Process, for those who know it or have listened to our episode about it. She takes Dave through the GAIA method in one of his dreams… listen to find out what they discover! In this episode: Ways to find out about and contact Linda: Linda’s website: Facebook: Instagram: LinkedIn: Contact Linda: Linda’s book: – also available on Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast! Instagram FaceBook Twitter DRI website: This podcast is a project of the , the centre for dream studies at , the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded by Sophie, Lev and Ella at the Boat Pod Edited by James Ede at Be Heard Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music released by Argofox Music promoted by Audio Library #dream #dreams #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #luciddreaming #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @lindayschiller22
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