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Unlocking Stronger Bonds: Shon Hart’s Guide to Dad-Daughter Connection
08/25/2025
Unlocking Stronger Bonds: Shon Hart’s Guide to Dad-Daughter Connection
If you’re a dad looking to strengthen the bond with your daughter, the latest episode of the “Dad and Daughter Connection” podcast is a must-listen. Hosted by and featuring special guest , executive director of , this episode is a heartfelt exploration of the joys, challenges, and transformative power of intentional fatherhood. Real Talk About Fatherhood The conversation starts with honesty and vulnerability—Shon Hart recalls a moment where his well-intentioned advice to his daughter didn’t land as he hoped. Owning his mistake, he shares the deep lesson he learned about parenting from a place of self-awareness, not old wounds. It’s a reminder that as fathers, our pasts influence our advice, but our daughters need us to step up as our healthiest, most present selves. Building Open Communication Throughout the episode, Shon emphasizes the value of open, empathetic communication. He advocates for creating a home environment where daughters feel safe talking about anything—even the hard stuff. Shon’s approach is simple but powerful: listen more, ask thoughtful questions, and let your daughters know you trust their judgment. By sharing his own stories—including mistakes—he models courage and honesty, encouraging other dads to meet their children with humility and understanding. Supporting Dreams and Independence One uplifting segment tackles the importance of letting your child pursue their own dreams, not yours. Shon, a former athlete, shares how he encourages his daughter in her passions—even if they don’t mirror his own. His support, whether it’s for her love of soccer or her entrepreneurial ambitions, demonstrates that empowering our children means respecting their individuality and aspirations. The Power of Being Present Perhaps the most resounding message is that fatherhood isn’t about perfection—it’s about presence. Whether it’s through shared traditions, like greeting rituals when traveling, or making space for honest conversations, Shon and Dr. Lewis highlight the everyday moments that deepen connection. When dads show up authentically and consistently, they help their daughters grow into confident, independent women. This episode is packed with practical tips, real stories, and genuine wisdom for any father—or parent—seeking to build healthier, more meaningful relationships with their children. If you’re ready to take another step on your fatherhood journey, tune in to this episode of the Dad and Daughter Connection. You’ll be inspired, challenged, and better equipped to be the dad your daughter needs. Listen now and join a community that’s all about connection, growth, and love. If you enjoyed this episode we ask you to take a moment to take our to let us know more about you as a dad. You can also sign up to get our to stay connected to our community and we will send items of interest to you to help you to be the dad that you want to be. Feel free to follow me on the following social media platforms: , , , , . TRANSCRIPT Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:02]: Welcome to the dad and Daughter Connection, the podcast for dads who want to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters. If you're looking to build a stronger bond with your daughter and help her grow into a confident, independent woman, you're in the right place. I'm Dr. Christopher Lewis, and the dad and Daughter Connection is the podcast where we dive into real stories, expert advice, and practical tips to help you navigate the incredible journey of fatherhood. In every episode, we'll bring you conversations that inspire, challenge, and equip you to show up as the dad your daughter needs. So let's get started, because being a great dad isn't just about being there. It's about truly connecting. Welcome back to the dad and Daughter Connection, where every week we have a great opportunity to be able to come together, to learn together, and to be able to work on these relationships, these connections that we want to build with our daughters. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:07]: That's why every week, I love being able to be here, to be able to talk with you, to walk with you, because you and I are on a similar journey. I've got two daughters, you've got daughters. You're here because you want to build a better connection, and all of us want to do that. And I commend you for taking that step, taking that step to listen today, because that's the first step. And showing up here shows that you have an interest in learning to be able to take that next step, to build and make that relationship even stronger. Every week, I bring you different guests, different people with different experiences that can share their own journey, their own journey as a father, as a person that can provide other resources to you to help you in your journey in some way. And today we got another great guest. Shawn Hart is with us, and Shawn is the executive director of Involved dad, and we're going to talk more about Involved dad and what he is creating in the Flint, Michigan area and beyond. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:12]: But Sean has had over a decade of experience in managing and spearheading fatherhood initiatives, and he has been working with dads, and not only in his own community, but beyond, to help them to be able to build those stronger relationships. And I had the opportunity to first get to meet Sean through the Dads with Daughters podcast that I used to do. And I love what he's doing in the community where I work in Flint, Michigan, but also in just being an advocate for fathers in general. And I think you're going to hear it in the conversation today and through the work that he does. And I'm really excited to have him here. Sean, thanks so much for being here today. Thank you. Shon Hart [00:02:53]: Thank you so much, Chris, for having me. I'm really excited to be back in your presence, my brother. So thanks for having me. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:59]: Well, I am really excited to have you back as well, because as I said, you know, we. We had an opportunity to meet, I'm gonna say, about a year and a half ago or so. And I love what you're doing, but first and foremost, before we get into involved dad, I want everyone to get to know you a little bit better. So I. And being that this is the dad and daughter connection, we've gotta talk about that relationship with. With your daughter. So what is one of the most meaningful moments that you've had the opportunity to share with your daughter and what made it so special? Shon Hart [00:03:31]: Well, I have several. Right. But I have two daughters. But I will speak to one moment where. Where I fumbled. Where I fumbled the bag. And this was probably about two years ago, Chris. I gave my daughter so not so best advice, and it wind up doing. Shon Hart [00:03:50]: Was causing her to become susp from school. So in a nutshell, she was being bullied by some young ladies and me being a protective dad, you know, I told her to go to school the next day and to confront the young lady. Not to fight, but to confront. And so what wind up happening? The school contacted us, told us about it. And if you know my daughter, she's very introverted, Chris. And I just really felt bad with her coming home, just feeling sad and me not being able to be a voice because she didn't want me to go to school. She didn't want me to go talk to the principal or the teachers. You know, she just said she'd handle it. Shon Hart [00:04:32]: Well, once she got suspended, I felt really bad, brought it up to the school. But this was the moment that night when we were leaving her soccer practice, and I brought it up and I asked her how she was feeling, and I knew she didn't feel well. Right. Being suspended because she's a daughter that really doesn't get in a whole lot of trouble. And she looked at me and she began to cry. And so my thing was like, man, these jokers have my daughter feeling bad. She's crying, she's sad. And so my response to her was, you know what? I'm going to request a meeting with the teacher, the principal, all of the people that should have kept her safe. Shon Hart [00:05:11]: And her response to me, she looked at me and her response was, is like, dad, I'm not crying because of the suspension. I'm Crying because of what you told me to do. She said, I did not want to go to school and confront, I didn't want to do all of these things. And that's why she was crying. And so immediately, man, I felt guilty, I felt so bad because she's very introverted, doesn't like conflict. And I believe there's a way that you can help teach your children to advocate for themselves using their voice. But when she did that, I felt bad. And so I realized that, Chris, that the advice that I gave her was not advice from a 45 year old adult. Shon Hart [00:05:55]: The advice was from that 13 year old boy, that 13 year old boy that still was living on the inside of me, who when he was 13 did not fight this young man named Titi because he was afraid. And all of the kids in the school knew that I was afraid and laughed. And so here it was at 45, I realized that I wanted my then daughter, who was 15, to avenge the 13 year old Sean. And so I put my trauma on hers. And so in that encounter that we had, it gave me the opportunity to confront the 13 year old boy and me and give him some grace and ask him to forgive me and go through the whole process. But I was able to tell my daughter that very story once I made the connection of what really took place and my daughter in my arms cried and said that she forgave me. And it was a powerful exchange, man. So it was two people that were healed in that moment. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:06:57]: So thinking about that example that you just gave, what did you learn from it that will help you in the future in fostering a positive communication with your daughters? Shon Hart [00:07:07]: The biggest thing is about me being healthy, right? Parenting from a healthy place. Because my daughters and I, my children, we have a very, very strong relationship as far as communicating. My children talk to me about the most difficult things to me and my wife. But what was most important, what I've learned is, is that it gave me the opportunity to, to become a healthier parent. That when I make decisions or when conflict or adversity arise, that I would be a lot healthier. Being able to look through the lens of being more clear, not looking at, through the lens of some of my childhood trauma and parenting. So that was the biggest thing that I gave. I forgot all about that moment. Shon Hart [00:07:52]: I totally forgot. And it wasn't until that exchange where I remember like, oh my God, I remember when I was at this age, I did this and I'm like, man, maybe that's why I respond certain ways when my children Come home and say people are picking with them or whatever the case, I'm constantly reverting back to that little boy and me and how I responded in saying, I'm going to make sure that my children don't do what I do or did. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:08:19]: How do you balance guiding your daughters while also giving them the independence to grow into their own person? Shon Hart [00:08:25]: I'm very open. I ask a lot of questions. I will give advice, but I ask a lot of questions trying to help them to come to the right conclusion and have a lot of empathy when I'm talking them through it. So I want them to understand that I understand where they're coming from. Like, there's nothing new under the sun. So I never allowed them to think. Think that their dad was always perfect. So where there's opportunity for me to give my example of my life or other people, examples that I've known that have made or that was confronted with similar situations. Shon Hart [00:09:06]: Mine is from boy and theirs from the girl perspective, right? So even like my oldest daughter, when early, when she was young, man, we talked about. I'm a firm believer is that when your children get exposed, then you need to have that conversation, regardless of whatever it is. Because if I try to ignore what they just witnessed or was exposed to at school, it is my job, my responsibility to have that conversation, to make sure that they're getting the right information. And so even when my daughter, my oldest, said that she's 21, about to be 22, when she was exposed to sex or whatever the case, kids are talking about it. So we had the conversation and she had a little boyfriend. And so my thing was, at the end of the day, when we got to the place of talking about sex, my thing was like, listen, before you do any of that, just give me a word that we can talk first. Just talk to me. And so my thing about it, and we had talked about a whole bunch of stuff, but my thing was, what she knew at the end of the day was is that my dad was there before. Shon Hart [00:10:06]: He understands. My thing was like, listen, let's process it. Let's make sure you're making the right decision for your. It's your decision. It's not somebody else manipulating you. Is not your classmates you. This is not that. And so, Chris, man, my daughter made it out of high school without doing some things or whatever the case, man. Shon Hart [00:10:24]: And when she got older and she was like, I'm looking to do this, she didn't come to me first. She went to my wife, right? But she did bring it to me, so. Which was cool. And so that's the type of environment that I tried to create, Chris. Far from perfect, though, but that's what I try to create. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:10:40]: Well, talk to me about that, because I think hearing what you just said, a lot of dads want to create that, but don't always know the steps. Don't always know how best to step on that path and move down that path to be able to build that positive relationship and build that open communication that you're talking about. What would you recommend to dads in starting on that path? Shon Hart [00:11:04]: The first part, man, is to deal with self before I can even create a safe space for my daughters to feel safe enough to talk to me about some of their most intimate. Chris, man, I tell you, yeah, I'm keep it pg, But I just want to be very transparent, man. My daughter came home one day, and she was like, this boy was trying to get her or try to convince her that was okay for him to put his hand down her pants. And, you know, all of this stuff, like, she coming to me telling me this information. And so, brother, I'm cringing. I want to go to school. And like, yo, let me Adam, you know? But it was important on what my response was, right? Because I wanted her to understand that it's not about the boy, that it's about her, and that I trust her, that I trust her. I believe in her, that she will make these decisions. Shon Hart [00:11:53]: Because if my thing, if I would have jumped to, I'm going to school, I'm doing this, it would be telling her that I did not believe that she had the ability, the tools, and I didn't trust her enough to make a right decision. And so I had to model what I promised her, that when you bring me the most intimate, the most difficult, like, we will process this, and we will come to a conclusion. And so that was a moment. She brought it to me, and I'm like, all right, let's process this. And we gonna process this until, you know, my head, we going to process this to. You are on my side, and you understand. But, yeah, so that's the first thing, is that you have to start working on you. And where you see that there are blind spots, like, really confront them, like, having that conversation of, like, man, why do I believe this? Why do I believe this? What can I do? And this is my last thing that I say as it relates to this, Chris, is that I am a firm believer with my daughters, because they're two different girls. Shon Hart [00:12:53]: What I would say is what does she need at this moment? I'm big on that. Like, what does this individual child need in this moment? One may need something totally different where the versus the other may need something else. And so when I have come to that conclusion, it gives me the ability to make a better decision in this moment, not based off of something else. They may need to be disciplined. But guess what? In this moment, discipline is not what she needs. What she need is this. And so that's why I try to parent from that place. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:13:26]: Now, I know we talked about a week or so ago and your youngest daughter was out on a college visit and this next question really gets into that. So as I think about that, because I'm going through that myself with my own youngest daughter. How do you support your daughters in pursuing their passion and dreams? Shon Hart [00:13:46]: Man, that's really good because this one, hers is in action, right? So me being a former football player, played at Michigan State University, you know, just high level, like all things sports, right? Like sports, sports, sports. And so I realized that, man, my life is mine and theirs is theirs. And so my thing is like, because I know what it feels like to wake up every day and, and live your dream and live your passion and do what burns you like that, keep the fire going. That's my desire for my children, right? So I get to wake up every day and help people. The opportunity of helping heal families. And so that's one of the most rewarding things, right? And then just recently, you know, I'm able to. I was unable to make it to the NFL, but now, Chris, I'm working with NFL players, been coaching NFL players. So I'm living my dream as it relates to a career. Shon Hart [00:14:41]: And so when you talk about your children, my daughter, who is extremely athletic, and I want to say this because this is important, extremely athletic, has the ability to do some amazing things. Well, I realized that she liked soccer, she doesn't love soccer. And she's been gifted with ability that can take her for, you know, places. And early on I'm like, man, if you would only do this and do that like you. But her thing is like, that is not her dream. Soccer for her is a ends to. Is. Is a, is a means to end. Shon Hart [00:15:14]: So she love it enough to where she enjoys playing it. She's gonna give her all because she's been gifted, she's really been gifted to play this sport. And she's gonna give you what you need. But her biggest desire is that she want to become a business owner. She wants to own her own Own hair salon, she want to do nails and things of that nature. Like that's what really drives her. So my thing is like, yo, whatever you desire, how can I support you, you know, from that standpoint. So she understands that soccer is a means to an end. Shon Hart [00:15:48]: Will allow her put her in a position to get a high education, to continue to play the sport that she enjoys. But it will put her in a better position to understand business if she go get a higher education and to get the finances for the university to pay for it. So. So that's where I'm at. Is that because I am living my dream, I want my children to live theirs, despite what I want for them. Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:16:14]: Now, what's a tradition or routine that you've been able to create that strengthens your bonds with your daughters? Shon Hart [00:16:21]: Man, I don't know if we have any straight up routines, but there's a lot of moments that they do. Like every time I go out of town, I come back, my 21 year old is our thing. I guess it is a tradition. She created it, not me. I can't say that I came up with it, but. And I don't know how much longer we can do that this job. But whenever I leave and come back out of town, she would like a little girl. You ready, Daddy? You ready? Yeah. Shon Hart [00:16:50]: And my wife look at us like we crazy, but she was sprint from across the room and jump into my arms where I gotta catch her now, man. She's again, she's 21,...
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