Lead Through Strengths - Build a Training and Coaching Practice, Based on Strengths
Lisa Cummings and Brea Roper help you lead teams, build your work culture, and improve relationships with CliftonStrengths A.K.A StrengthsFinder. The "Lead Through Strengths" podcast was created for you if you're ready to stop taking the "path of most resistance" at work and in life. It sounds silly, yet it happens all the time when people get focused on fixing their weaknesses. It doesn't have to be so hard. Stop focusing on what's broken about you. Lisa Cummings, one host, is a Gallup Certified Strengths Performance Coach, so she brings you a wealth of corporate wisdom, combined with Gallup research. She's also certified by the Life Coach School and has an MBA, so she brings a good combo of business and coaching. Brea Roper, your other host, is also a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach. She is incredible at helping you cast a vision for your future - using your natural talents. She's especially talented at leading personal retreats in Kansas City, MO (and she will travel). Many episodes are educational Q&A from our corporate clients. They're usually questions we get in our StrengthsFinder corporate workshops. Over 34 Million people have taken the CliftonStrengths assessment. With this show, you'll learn how to find your strengths and put them to work. If you manage a team, you'll hear ideas for leading your so your colleagues can come to work feeling more energized and engaged. We publish by season. Season 1: Career Q&A Season 2: Strengths Interviews Season 3: StrengthsFinder Q&A (also known as CliftonStrengths assessment) Season 4: Team Building 12 Week Strengths Challenge Season 5: One StrengthsFinder Talent Theme Per Week: Career Branding Adjectives for your personal brand, red flag situations for that talent theme, and action items to put that talent to use Season 6: Nine Core Concepts of Strengths Season 7: Facilitator Interviews (because, who needs Lisa only - we have lots of other great StrengthsFinder trainers for you) Season 8: CliftonStrengths Customer Q&A Season 9: The Foundations of Strengths and Mindset Season 10: Coach the Coach - Brea and Lisa help you build your independent coaching practice, or implement strengths into your work culture There's a lot of confusion about the name of the assessment because it is difficult to spell (or put the singular/plural in the right spot), and it has changed names. All of these are the same survey tool: StrengthsFinder 2.0, StrengthsFinders, StrengthFinders, StrengthFinder, StrengthsFinder, Clifton Strengths, CliftonStrengths, Clifton StrengthsFinder. Despite the difficulty with the word, the content all points to Strengths Based Development and leadership using StrengthsFinder with your team. In addition: here are some hot topic areas covered by audience questions so far: Getting promoted; discovering your strengths; differentiating yourself; coaching and feedback; marketing, branding, and promoting yourself; getting unstuck; developing your direct reports; noticing what works on your team; connecting and networking; personal leadership; politics and perceptions at the office; getting viewed as an A player; building trust and influence at work or in your industry; being a people-leader that you want to be, even when you're short on time; how to get your creative mojo back; understanding how your EQ (emotional intelligence) is more important than your IQ at work; stuff you didn't learn in business school that's hurting your career; getting unstuck and un-trapped; being a better leader; solving problems; getting past confusion; aligning your mind, body, and purpose in life; managing major life transitions; and taking a minute to reflect on what you really want in life
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Selling to Corporate Clients - Coaching, Training, and Speaking Services
05/11/2025
Selling to Corporate Clients - Coaching, Training, and Speaking Services
Selling to corporate clients can be exciting, and sometimes daunting. And everyone wants to know…what’s the secret sauce? From the thrill of landing big contracts to the unexpected surprises that come with corporate red tape, we cover it all. You’ll hear about the challenges of finding the right decision-makers, the complexities of procurement processes, and the importance of pricing your services appropriately to account for those hidden costs. We also discuss the potential rewards of working with corporate clients, like the opportunity for repeat business and the chance to make a significant impact on a large scale. Plus, we share tips on how to leverage your unique strengths and experiences to connect with corporate teams effectively. So, if you're considering selling to corporate clients or just want to learn more about what it takes, this episode is packed with valuable insights and a few laughs along the way! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Here are three key takeaways that stood out during our conversation: ● The 5 “P”s of Selling to Corporate: Selling to corporate clients can be a different ballgame compared to smaller businesses. We discussed five specific challenges, including prospecting, people, processes, paperwork, and pricing. From finding the right person to talk to, to the often lengthy procurement processes that can feel overwhelming…it's crucial to be prepared for the red tape and to understand the internal dynamics of the organizations you're targeting. Knowing who has the decision-making power and how to navigate the paperwork can make all the difference in your success. ● Financial Surprises: One of the biggest surprises for many new to the corporate world is the financial aspect. From insurance requirements to payment terms that can stretch out for 90 days or more, it's essential to factor these into your pricing strategy. We emphasized the importance of pricing your services in a way that accounts for these unexpected costs and delays, ensuring that you remain profitable while building strong relationships with your clients. ● The Ripple Effect of Corporate Work: Despite the challenges, working with corporate clients offers incredible potential for impact. The ability to reach a large number of employees and make a difference in their work lives is a powerful motivator. We shared personal experiences of how corporate engagements can lead to repeat business and even opportunities for global travel, enriching both your professional and personal life. Take Action ● Research Corporate Client Needs: Take the time to understand the specific needs and expectations of corporate clients in your industry. This includes familiarizing yourself with common processes, procurement requirements, and potential red tape. ● Prepare for Financial Surprises: Account for unexpected costs such as insurance policies, software fees, and extended payment cycles when pricing your services. Ensure your pricing reflects these potential surprises to maintain profitability. ● Identify Key Decision-Makers: Develop a strategy for finding and connecting with the right people within corporate organizations. Understand the hierarchy and decision-making processes to streamline your sales efforts. ● Leverage Existing Networks: Utilize your current connections and past experiences to identify potential corporate clients. Attend networking events and engage with local businesses to expand your reach. ● Stay Adaptable and Open-Minded: Be prepared for changes in corporate structures, such as turnover in key positions, which can affect ongoing contracts. Maintain flexibility in your approach and be ready to pivot as needed. If you're looking to expand your business into the corporate sector or simply want to learn more about the nuances of this market, this episode is a must-listen! 🎧 Tune in now and let us know your thoughts! What benefits and challenges have you faced in selling to corporate clients? Share your experiences in the comments below! #Podcast #CorporateClients #Coaching #BusinessGrowth #Entrepreneurship #LeadThroughStrengths Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is all about selling to corporate clients. Whether we're talking about coaching, speaking, training, workshops, facilitation, all of those kind of services in a corporate marketplace. Brea, this one I'm like, oh, I'm totally comfortable. This is my jam. Corporate is my bag. Brea: And I'm just here with my paper and my pen ready to take notes and learn from the master, you know? This is so juicy. This is so good. Lisa: is like, that isn't the market I'm focused on. Okay. But I think you bring really great stuff because I know you do have corporate clients and I know we've talked about them over the years and it will do a lot for our listeners just to be able to hear from two perspectives, somebody who's absolutely focused on corporate and somebody who isn’t. And then what the experience is when we're in that process of talking to a prospective customer, what the surprises are, what the road bumps are. I think it's really important to have this conversation. For one point alone, if I could share some experiences where people can see the financial surprises. Like you get the gig and then they're like, oh, we need to see your insurance policy with the $3 million limits. Oh, we need you to pay $13 a month for your software to get paid because that's what happens with our procurement software. Oh, it's going to take 14 hours to get through the procurement paperwork. Those things aren't built into people's prices because they have no idea they're going to run into those on the other side. So that part of the surprise makes this whole conversation worth it. Brea: Yeah. In case people don't know, my background is not in corporate. It never has been until I started my own coaching and consulting business and wanted to start selling to corporate clients. But I personally don't have any background there. And so at first I was like, oh my gosh, corporate, you know, big starry eyes emoji because you're looking for what I'm selling. So it's just going to be so easy to sell. And then I was just like, I just don't love this process of trying to sell into corporate. And even I think delivering to corporate clients has been a very different experience versus delivering to a smaller business or a smaller nonprofit. So I'm excited to dive in. Lisa: Not just selling, even the delivery. Oh my gosh. Can we start on the positive? What gives the starry eyed emoji? I can't say the word emoji today. That's funny. What's exciting about it? Like, why do we even try if there is going to be a lot of red tape? Why go through the red tape? Brea: Yeah, well, for me, it seems like two things. Financial, right? They have budgets, their budgets are big, and they're looking for the services that we're offering. So it's not a heart of a cell, you know, theoretically, right. There's a credibility to put a corporate logo on my website as a client that I've served looks really good to other potential buyers. So. I think those are the two things that first attracted me. Lisa: Yeah, I'll agree with those. Those are amazing. And it's definitely proven true. You know, people go to leadthroughstrengths.com and they scroll to the bottom of the homepage and they're like, Ooh, look at all those logos. That is good for being able to sell people in the future. The financial part of it could be really cool. There have been a lot of customers over the years where they have big corporate academies and they'll offer a program on repeat inside of a corporate training academy. And it is just business that comes back and comes back and comes back. So there may be a little more difficulty in getting in up front. And then once you're in, there can be some ease of repeat business that is really cool. There's an upside for me. I think this would be true for any of us. If you learn that you're working with a customer who has 100,000 employees and you think, how powerful the work is that we do and that you could reach that many people through your work. It feels amazingly efficient and beautiful to be able to have that ripple effect in the world. So it just feels great, the upside in all the ways. Brea: Yeah, so much potential, so much potential. Lisa: Exactly. Personally, I've been able to travel to 15 different countries delivering our work. And that's very enriching personally as well. So getting to see the global experience, it makes you better at your craft because you're facilitating in all kinds of different environments and cultures. And also, what a gift to be able to travel for work like that. So that's been a fun benefit as well. Brea: Yes, I love all those things. I think also for those of us who are strengths coaches and use Gallup's CliftonStrengths assessment, I mean, it's designed for corporate teams. You know, like that's where it started. Obviously not the only place that it can be applied, but it's such a natural fit there. Working in corporate training, even though you get all these fancy trips around the world or, you know, whatever, like it's hard. We need a little a little spark and we need to approach our work differently. We deserve to enjoy our work, you know, and to show up and be able to do what we do best every day. People need what it is that we're offering. So it's a real opportunity for us to go in and, and make real impact, you know, and really help people live good, full lives. Lisa: Yeah, yeah. If we're selling to corporate clients, we're in there thinking from the corporate client perspective, hey, we can help you have employees who are fully engaged, who are reaching their highest potential, who are working in their efficiency zone. There are a lot of really good business reasons. So I think it's a great match. We know our services can be of value and how cool when you can touch the individual who also works there and make their human experience better. Brea: Yeah, yeah, love it. Lisa: So what are some of the surprises you've run into, Brea when you've been talking with a corporate client as a prospect, when you're in those early stages, what have you run into that's notable? Brea: Well, so many things. I mean, I've learned the hard way, you know, let me, let me be honest, but everything was a surprise to me, because I literally had no experience going into it. I think It was so surprising to me how hard it was because in my mind, I was like, Oh, this is such an easy match. And it, it wasn't, it's so hard to find the right person to talk to. It's hard to get them on the phone, you know, or on the zoom or on the calendar there, their time is very, very full, you know? And so to get to the right person and then to get their time was surprisingly harder than I thought. I was surprised by, again, all the red tape, just, oh my gosh, my little activator. I was just like, this is taking too long. I can't. I love that about small businesses is I can talk to the owner. I can just walk in there a lot of times, you know, and talk to the owner and we can put something on the books for the next day, you know? I was surprised by how long the process was. from the very first prospecting call to the finished product. Oh, there's so many things that surprised me, but another big one is how it felt like, I don't know, how do I say it? From my perspective, it felt like they wanted a lot of my time and a lot of like free, like the interview process, you know, or as you kind of work through the chain, you, you end up talking to several different people, you know, as you're, continue to pursue the lead. And they want you to, you know, meet with a small team and do a, you know, a 30 minute webinar or whatever. And I'm like, what? Like, no, I charge for this. Don't you know? So things like that. Lisa: Yeah, you have to find out who else is involved in the decision and who has veto power on the budget and what budgets matter. One of the surprises I experienced, this is why I experienced it many times, is some corporate clients have these things called an accumulation period. So let's say you set your billing to be Net 30. That means you send your invoice and it's due in 30 days. They will say, well, we do Net 90. So we only pay every 90 days and we have a 90 day accumulation period. Yeah, like double surprise. 90 days and the accumulation period over which we're collecting all of the paperwork. So really, they're saying we pay you six months after the gig. And that for most individuals who are getting started in the early years is a long time to wait. And then people don't expect it. And they're like, oh, my gosh, are they Not paying me? Do I have to chase this? I've had some of the biggest names, Fortune 50 names in the world. One took over one year to pay. It wasn't because they weren't trying to pay. It was because one person who worked on just a regular old operations team out there, she didn't know how to navigate the internal procurement, how to get a PO, how to get it paid. She didn't know she needed a PO. She didn't know the paperwork. Because that's not what they do on a daily basis. This just started off as a team who wanted to do a team building. And by the time we figured it all out, it was a year into it. is so much. So I would put that out there. If you're early on and you think you want to serve and sell into corporate clients, make sure you are accounting for things like you're going to have to buy insurance policies and show them. And then once you've purchased your insurance policies and you've paid a couple thousand dollars, oh, then they're going to say, you need to add us as additional insured. And if you don't have this in your policy, that might be a couple hundred dollars to add that. Oh, then you have to pay to be in our software, to be able to get paid. You're going to fill out 14 hours worth of procurement paperwork. There might be a year long closing cycle or there might be a one day closing cycle. You don't know what you're going to get. So a lot of surprises come up like you close the deal and then they say, oh, by the way, are you going to show up with a PowerPoint? Are you going to use a deck? And if you say yes, then they say, oh, well, every deck in our organization has to conform to these brand standards. And they send you a 100 page document and a template and you're like, I don't even use PowerPoint. My deck's designed somewhere else. And why would you have a vendor put their stuff in your deck's format? And why wouldn't you just close it up front? Because that's going to take six hours. Those are the surprises you just have to be ready for and you have to have a price that you're satisfied enough with that when those surprises come up, you don't have to be like, well, if this, then I need to charge this much more. Instead of feeling like you're in a nickel and dime or an adversarial back and forth, because you want to keep this, you want to keep it. Feeling like, really exciting and fun. And so after you get through the paperwork phase, you want to be in a great relationship with them. So price it for the unexpected because in big corporate, you're going to have the unexpected. Brea: So here's what I'm hearing from you and what I'm feeling in my bones are the three P's. It's people finding the right person to talk to. It's paperwork. It's so much paperwork and processes, right? There are so many processes that you just have to kind of learn to navigate or just throw your hands up and just go with the ride, you know? Lisa: Yeah, and hey, I mean, I'll just add in another P because when you're talking about prospecting as another P, I think in general, if the topic of this show is selling to corporate clients, when people start a coaching, speaking, training kind of business, we get into it because we love the work. What percentage of coaches do you think are like, “oh my gosh, I didn't know I needed to spend at least half my time being a salesperson or a marketing person.” So that prospecting element, I'm going to just add an extra P in there for you that I think that's another surprise. What it takes to find prospective customers. Where are they? How do I find them? What is my process going to be? For some, it's social media. For some, it's tapping into an existing past network or people that you've known in your career. For some, it's going to chamber events or other types of networking events and meeting people. Sometimes it's a local effort and they're trying to build business in a specific city. And you can have successful paths through all of those. But it definitely is something you have to be conscious of that it's a thing with corporate clients. Brea: Yeah. And maybe the fifth P is pricing. This is such a mystery still to me, even though I have worked successfully with corporate clients. It's how do you price it? Right. Especially if you've never done it before and it's your very first contract. So there we go. The five P's of selling to corporate. Lisa: I know. And we're all over the place, aren't we? I mean, and that's fine. That is a beauty of it. I have heard plenty of our peers say when they're starting out, they've delivered a speech for $700 and I have friends. I know because they're thinking one hour. They're thinking, Oh, that sounds like a lot for an hour. Sometimes you have to overcome that with a client because they also think of it as one hour. But we, I also have friends who are 20,000 plus for one speech. Brea: Yeah. Lisa: There's such a variety. And it's fine. Brea: And, and I think the mystery for me when it comes to corporate clients is, um, is you don't know what their budget is. Like, you know, that they have a price in mind. Right. And every company is different. So how do you come in not too high that you lose the, you know, the opportunity, but not too low that you look like a total idiot?! He's never done this before. Right. You gotta come in where they're expecting you to come in. But how do you know? Because what one corporation may do isn't necessarily what, you know, another one will. I don't have any answers. I'm just here. I'm just here taking notes and saying, if you feel like it's hard, it is. And I'm with you. Lisa: Well, and I also say you have to have some awareness of things like,...
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Do You Want to Offer Group Coaching
04/27/2025
Do You Want to Offer Group Coaching
Thinking about offering group coaching programs? This episode is for you! We explore the many benefits it offers – for those being coached and also for coaches themselves. Things like opportunities for support and feedback, profitability and scalability, and developing deep, lasting friendships. We also share a few different program structures we’ve tried, and the impact we’ve seen. If you're curious about how group coaching can benefit your organization, or if you're a coach looking to expand your offerings, tune in to this episode! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways ● Affordability and Accessibility: For many individuals, one-on-one coaching can be a financial stretch. Group coaching is often more budget-friendly than one-on-one sessions, making it an attractive option for those looking to access top-tier coaches without a hefty price tag. ● Networking and Peer Learning: Participants in group coaching can build meaningful connections with peers who share similar challenges, fostering a supportive community that extends beyond the coaching sessions. Offering group coaching allows individuals to learn, not only from the coach, but also from observing and engaging with others in the group, enhancing the overall learning experience. ● Scalability for Coaches: Instead of being limited to one-on-one sessions, coaches can reach and impact more people simultaneously. This not only increases profitability but also allows coaches to create a ripple effect of positive change. Plus, the energy and interaction in group settings can be incredibly motivating for both coaches and participants, making the experience more enjoyable and fulfilling. ● Flexibility in Structure: Group coaching offers can take many forms, from small cohorts to larger sessions, and can be tailored in duration, allowing coaches to experiment with different formats to find what works best for their audience. Experiment to find what works best for you! 🎧Listen now and let us know your thoughts! We’d love to hear how delivering has impacted your journey. #GroupCoaching #Coaching #Networking #ProfessionalDevelopment #Podcast #Leadership #CoachingCommunity Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is all about group coaching. So do you want to deliver or offer group coaching? Brea: Yes. You should. You know, not that I'm going to should on everybody, but really you should. There are so many benefits of delivering group coaching. Brea: But if you've ever asked yourself that question, group coaching, should I do that? This is the episode for you. Lisa: Yes, it is. Yes, it is. I was thinking we could talk about the two angles. Of course, anytime you have a product or a service, so we're even talking to you internal coaches who are coaching for an organization as an employee. Lisa: Well, you might have a lot of reasons you want to incorporate group coaching into your internal practice. Certainly, if you're an independent coach, you might want to introduce this into your product offerings. And as always, we want to think about the person we're being of service to, right? Some people call them coachee. Lisa: I will often call them the person being coached because people look at me weird if I say coachee. It is such a weird word. It's such a weird word. It is. Lisa: It is. So anyway, we want to think of that person Let's, let's take that angle first. Cause of course it can benefit. You can benefit your organization, but let's talk about the person receiving the coaching first and why group coaching could be great to consider from that person's point of view. Lisa: What say you, Brea? Brea: Oh my gosh. Well, one of the main reasons that I hear people are attracted to group coaching when they're considering one-on-one versus group coaching, it's price, you know, group coaching is usually cheaper, so it makes it just a little bit more affordable. And it's a great way for them to get to know the coach and receive some coaching, you know, receive the value of it for not a big spend. It's just kind of a smaller step before they're ready to commit to one-on-one coaching. Lisa: I had not even thought of price. And could you imagine like some people want access to a specific coach and they just cannot get that in their budget at this time, but they could get access to that person with a more intimate kind of relationship if they did group coaching. Smart. Brea: I've got a whole list, but I'm sure you do too. Lisa, what else do you think of? All right, we'll ping pong back and forth. Lisa: I think my favorite benefit to the coachee is the network. Because let's say you're doing a group program and you're like, I'm going into this program on how to get rid of my imposter syndrome as a new senior leader. Well, you are now in a room with 10 or 15 other senior leaders who are also currently experiencing imposter syndrome. I mean, the ability to network and really grow your relationships with people who are like you, who understand you. Lisa: It's so cool. And because you're learning from peers who you respect, when they're learning, and the coach, let's say the coach is doing like a focus on that person, whether it's a hot seat or whatever you call it, depending on what kind of program you have. But If they're focusing in and doing a coaching spotlight with that one person, and that one person is not you, you still benefit so immensely because you're watching someone who has the same issue or challenge you have. You're watching the coach and you can't help it. Lisa: You're coaching them in your mind. You're like, Oh, this is what I would think of that. Oh, this is how I'd approach that. And you're learning about yourself while you're doing it. Lisa: It's an incredible way to learn and meet people. I just love that richness. I think that's amazing. That might've been like, two different things in one, both the networking and how you learn from peers. Lisa: But gosh, that is a really big deal. Brea: Yes, I agree. Peer feedback is, if not number one, it's, you know, it's tied with my number one, I think. So I'm glad that you brought that up. The other part of the networking piece is the network just really like commits to supporting each other, not just in the session, but also outside of. Brea: And what I mean is like on LinkedIn, whenever I post something, I'm going to tag the people that are in my group that were in that coaching session. We were just talking about, you know, being bold and putting something out on LinkedIn. So we tag those people and everybody likes and comments and boost the algorithm and just shows that support. So the network is, is more than just building friendships. Brea: It's actually committing to, to support each other in their business. Um, which I think is so cool. Oh yeah. Lisa: I mean, you made me think of two things there. One is, if you paid $1,000 to be in a group program, and that group program is six weeks long, but you made really tight relationships and friendships during that time, now that learning and peer network carries forward for years to come. So you pay for this quick thing, and then it lasts in a way that one-on-one coaching can't without continuing to pay. Brea: That is super cool. That's the power of of spending time with each other. You show up to a group coaching program and you're vulnerable, you're open, you're hungry, you're learning, and you're all in it together. So it really can form some great friendships. Lisa: I think that's why it's so cool that it goes beyond the person. Because you buy a group coaching program or you buy into a group coaching program or membership or course, however the structure, because it could be literal coaching, it could be a course, it could be a membership, lots of different structures to group coaching, but you buy it based on that person selling it and you're sold on that person. And what is so cool to me is how often you get into this group coaching and you're satisfied with the purchase based on that person and how they run their program. And then all those extra people are like bonuses. Lisa: It's incredible what relationships form from group coaching. Brea: It's amazing. Yeah. You know, another great thing about being in a group coaching cohort is the added availability. I don't know about you, but my brain is always coming up with questions and it's usually not in the moment. Brea: You know, it's like after I've stepped out of it that I'm like, oh shoot, we should have talked about this or I should have talked about that. And it's like, you know, you can do that with a group coaching program. You've got all these other people in the cohort that you can reach out to outside of the sessions. You're not just limited to the one hour you've paid for with the one person. Brea: You have more time to practice what you're learning and just ask questions without that added burden of being limited to time Yeah. Oh, what a good one. Lisa: This makes me just want to go sign up for more group programs right now. Brea: I know. I love it. I mean, you and I both, Lisa, we're social beings, you know, very social. So the people part of it is super, super attractive. Brea: But these other practical elements, I think, are really great for you as a coach, for the listeners, to remember this is a great thing to consider. So maybe we should talk about that. Why might a coach want to consider it for themselves? Lisa: Before we go to coach, I just feel like, I think this is a thing. My sister is super introverted and loves to tell me that the whole world is not extroverted like me. I'm like, just to put a little closure on this, I want to say for those of you who are not mega social beings like Brea and like me, don't think this is just an extrovert's game. It is a really incredible what you can get just watching what happens in a mastermind hot seat coaching or in a demo where someone's in front of the room. Lisa: You don't have to be social to watch someone else. You could just sit there in your own solitary world and just watch and soak in and have your mind exploding with nuances that you learned that you never even signed up to learn. Little things that you change about how you move forward. It's incredible. Lisa: So it is beneficial for all. Brea: Yes, introverts, welcome! Lisa: OK, OK, now let's move. You said, let's go to the coach side. How are these programs of service to the coach who's offering the program? Yeah. Brea: Well, Price, I guess I'll just start with the same thing, right? It can be very lucrative for you as a coach to build a group coaching model. because you're able to serve more people and profit from more people at once, right? So you're getting more bang for your buck as far as the time goes. Brea: Does that make sense? Yes. Lisa: Oh yeah. Brea: Heck yeah. Lisa: Yeah. You know, I like profitability. I also think it's been really cool where you can serve so many more people, have such a big ripple effect by being out there in service of others, where one-on-ones, you'll just blow past your capacity eventually. We go through waves sometimes where we're in a really high demand time. Lisa: And we feel bad when we can't serve people who are like, please take my money. I love your service. Please come into my organization and do this thing, or please coach me. And you cannot, because you are just blowing way over your own capacity. Lisa: So a group program also keeps that from happening. Brea: Yep, that's right. I mean, the potential for impact is so much greater. When you've got more people in the room, you're doing more. You're doing more for the same amount of energy, the same amount of effort. Brea: So love a good group coaching program. Yeah. And if you're like me, I come out of group sessions and I am on fire, you know, I don't want them to end. And, um, all the interaction with everyone, the, the group versus the one-on-one is really where I'm at my best, you know? Brea: Um, and so it's, it's good for me because of my talents. So that's something to consider too. if a group sounds fun, then that's a reason to do it because it's fun. Yes. Brea: Yes. Lisa: Cause if it's fun, you're going to serve better. Yes. I'm going to say this is tagging onto your first one and specifically probably make it mean something a little different for me is this idea of building a more scalable practice, whether you're an independent coach or an internal coach. I have had so many times during my coaching life where I get myself so busy that I have literal 12 hours blocked on my calendar where I know exactly what I am supposed to be doing for every minute. Lisa: Get in that 12 hour block. I'm running through my house like a tornado. It is a ridiculous sight to see. And then I think, as far as being scalable, think about how many times you get asked the same question over and over again. Lisa: And if you could offer that one time, you can create one video, send it out to the entire group, have a discussion around it, and it can live on forever. It gives you so much scale. So I would just say as a person who has always tended toward going back to overbooking myself and creating overwhelm, the beauty of a group program to give you space to really allow yourself to relax into it and show up as that best version of you instead of that frantic swirling around version. Brea: Oh my gosh. Nobody wants to live in the middle of a tornado. That is not, not the life that I'm looking for. Wow. Brea: Well, you kind of stole, it wasn't exactly what I was going to say, but along the same lines. So I don't want to, you know, like go over that again. Um, I feel like we've got, it's a good list. It's a good list. Brea: We covered a lot in a little bit of time. Lisa: Oh, you know, okay. I have one final one. Yeah. And you made me think of this while you were talking about the benefit to the person getting coached, the friendships, the vibes, the just like feeling amazing when you're of service to someone and you have that relationship and it's just giving in all the directions. Lisa: It does work in both ways. It serves the person getting coached, and it serves the person coaching, and it feels so enriching. It's an incredible way to live. I mean, being coaches, internal or independent coach, if we crafted a life where it feels like you're hanging out with your friends for a living, oh my gosh, it's so darn cool. Lisa: And I could not be more grateful for that. I think that is… It's the unexpected. It's not like I thought you would, you know, you don't think your people you serve are going to be enemies or something, but the level of friendships and love toward the people that you serve, it is an incredible thing that it does for your life. And I think it's been one of the bigger surprises in how deep those go. Brea: Yeah, I totally agree and have benefited in the exact same way. I know that if I was, ever in any of their towns, I could call them up and say, Hey, I'm in town and I haven't talked to you in five years. How you doing? You know, that's incredible. Brea: It's incredible. Yeah. You know, a couple other things are coming to mind as far as what group coaching could look like, right? Um, it could be a small group. Brea: Like I think many of us would think, you know, eight to 10 is usually like a really great size. 20 to 30 could be even bigger, right? Actually, the time that I spent serving SOAR, one cohort had almost a hundred people in it. And we showed up twice a week together live. Brea: And then I did a one-on-one session with everyone. So it was a lot. Okay. A lot. Brea: That is making me tired. Lisa: It was a lot. You're talking big group. I think what you just brought up is also so important, because a lot of people who are internal coaches, they're like, yeah, I'm responsible for all leadership development for my company. And that happens to be 12,000 people. Lisa: So how big can a group be without just being considered a big old webinar, a big old course? And there are plenty of programs that do 100 people level cohorts. I probably you're not going to have the stamina that Brea had to do that many one on ones. But even if you met up, even if you took out the one on ones and just said, it's a group program, it's for 100 people, it's two times a week live, that is a lot of touchpoint action for that group. Brea: You know, I also, I've hosted what's what I call weekly office hours, which is kind of a group coaching variation, where you know, it's advertised that I'm going to be on the zoom on this day, you know, for this hour or for this time and anybody can pop in. And sometimes that ends up being a one-on-one coaching session, you know, for the lucky winner who, you know, was there by themselves. Sometimes it's a lot of people in a room, you know, or a small amount of people in a room, but there is that group coaching element. And I think that can be beneficial to you as a coach to just, again, um, provide an opportunity for people who want to work with you. Brea: You don't have time for a one-on-one contract, you know, for an extended amount of time, but you can say, Hey, come to this. I'm committed one hour a week, you know, to be here or one hour a month even, or whatever you want it to be. But to just leave that open ended for anyone who you meet networking or who reaches out to you on LinkedIn or anyone that, that wants to work with you, boom, there it is. You've got it already in your calendar. Brea: So. they can, they can come. Lisa: Amazing. Yeah. There are so many structures. I guess you have the kind of the numbers broken down. Lisa: You can do a structure that is more like the traditional mastermind where it is the hot seat where that one lucky person gets coached. It can be open Q and a, it can be, um, even in my tools for coaches, we have an open, We call it tea time. It's really just coach connection slash Q&A. It's the spot where all the people who do coaching, speaking, training, and our friends and families and outside of our lives at work, they're like, what do you do again? Lisa: And no one really understands what it is you do. Now you're in a room full of all the people who understand and you can ask one question and you'll get 20 ideas. I was just talking with a friend the other day and we were musing about how Isn't it cool that we can show up in that room and we're all what outsiders would think of as competitors, but we show up in the room together and we share the insides of our business, our resources, our ideas, our tools, and it just creates an environment that is so unique. So that's another version where it's a group program and you get so much more out of it than you would out of a one-on-one. Lisa: Yes. I think I would close out with a thought on time. The duration is a big question because how long should I make my group program? So from the coach perspective, should I make this a six week thing? Lisa: You talked about a 14 week bootcamp. I have corporate clients who...
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Building Your Coaching Business with BP10
04/13/2025
Building Your Coaching Business with BP10
Ever wish you knew what all the best business builders had in common? What talents contributed to their success? Well, that’s exactly what the BP10 is all about! If you want to build a successful coaching business, you need to tune in! We kick things off by explaining what BP10 stands for (Builder Profile 10) and how it identifies the top talents that successful business builders possess. We also share about our own top talents and how they influence our approaches to business, especially when it comes to building relationships and profitability. Spoiler alert: we have different strengths, but that’s what makes our conversation so rich! We also discuss the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people—your personal "board of directors"—to fill in the gaps where you might not excel. Whether you're contemplating starting your own business or looking to enhance your existing one, this episode is packed with tips and encouragement to help you leverage your unique strengths for success. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let’s get building! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on BP10 ● Actionable Insights from the BP10 Framework: The various worksheets and tools provided in the "Born to Build" book, which accompany the BP10 assessment. These resources encourage self-reflection and help you articulate your purpose, dreams, and plans for the future. Brea mentioned the purpose journal as a particularly impactful tool for self-awareness. If you're considering starting your own business or transitioning from a corporate job, I highly recommend diving into these resources. They can provide clarity and direction as you embark on your entrepreneurial journey. ● There are talents specific to building a business: The BP10 assessment identifies the top talents necessary for building a successful business. It emphasizes that no one person possesses all ten talents, highlighting the importance of collaboration and filling gaps with the right people. ● The assessment is just the beginning: The assessment unlocks additional resources, including worksheets and activities, that promote self-reflection and strategic planning. Taking action with these tools can lead to greater insights and business success. ● The BP10 Talents and CliftonStrengths work well together: Both assessments can provide a deeper awareness of personal strengths and areas for growth in business. Take Action ● Take the Assessment: If you purchase a physical copy of the book, , it includes a code to take the assessment. If you prefer to go paperless, you can here. ● Read "Born to Build": Purchase and read the book "Born to Build" by Gallup. ● Complete the worksheets and activities included with the assessment to gain a deeper understanding of your business-building capabilities. ● Compare your BP10 with your CliftonStrengths: Take the time to reflect on how your BP10 talents align with your CliftonStrengths. This can help you understand how to leverage your unique combination of strengths for greater success in building your coaching practice. ● Join a Group Coaching program: If you don’t want to go through the BP10 resources alone, consider joining a cohort of other coaches. This can provide support and accountability as you explore your talents. ○ with Brea Roper ○ Jeff Liscum’s . 🎧If you're intrigued by the BP10 assessment and want to learn more about how it can help you build a successful coaching practice, be sure to check out the full episode! #Podcast #BusinessBuilding #BP10 #Gallup #Entrepreneurship #Coaching #Networking #SelfAwareness Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is the BP10 for building a coaching business or building any business for that matter. What in the world is a BP10, Brea? Brea: It's another assessment that Gallup puts out. I know everybody's like, what? Gallup does something other than CliftonStrengths? So it stands for Builder Profile and 10 is the number 10. What Gallup has done is they looked at people who highly successful builders as far as entrepreneurial and building businesses. They've identified what talents have gotten them there and made a list of 10 that you need to build a successful business. Lisa: Tell us about your top. I mean, you could even just be your first, your number one, but it could be anywhere up there in your top talents. What resonated with you the most when you read your top? Brea: Yeah. So my number one is relationship, which is so true. For better or for worse, this is how I approach everything. If I'm cold calling or I'm reaching out to a company that I've never reached out to before, my first instinct always is to go to LinkedIn and see, do I know anyone that works there now or that has worked there or that might have a connection there? That's always my first instinct, which may or may not be helpful, you know, but that relationship is always always leading me. Lisa: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I could totally see that. And that would be comfortable for you and fun for you. And it would feel like a way to build a business that doesn't feel like the slog. Brea: Yeah, totally. I would much, much, much rather build my business with people. Independent is my number 10, yeah. I just, I don't love doing it alone. I love doing it with people. I love doing it for people. From creating my offerings, it comes back to that relationship. What does the customer in front of me need? That's what I'll create an offer for. What are the relationships that I have? Who are the people in my network? What do they need? Or where are they? Then I show up at those networking events. Relationship leads everything. Lisa: Mm-hmm. This is fun because my independence is also, it's my ninth out of 10 and relationships high. It's in the top four for me as well. And mine has a little different angle and I totally can map it to my strengths. So my number one is profitability. I know you're so surprised. Brea: Okay, no surprise there. I love that. I love that. You know, I love that. That's low for me. So having relationships, people in my circle who bring that is such a gift. And that one is… Oh, go ahead. Lisa: Well, I think that one was interesting to read. When you think of it like a talent, right? It's almost as if it doesn't get experienced much in the business. It does, but it happens so fast. And I think this would reflect my strategic talent from CliftonStrengths. It's such a vetting tool for me. If we're talking in the context of business, not in my hobbies or my giving strategies or something like that, if it's literally in the context of my business, then if it's not profitable, then I just throw it out immediately. Because if it's not profitable and doesn't seem to have the chance to be, I have 10 other things that I could do that I enjoy that would be profitable. So go for those. And it's just like you in, you out. And then, and then I don't think about it a lot. So it's not one of those that I think lives in my head all day, every day is how I feel. It's just like an early filter and then out. Brea: Yes. And for me, because even though we both share a relationship in our top, profitability is so low for me that even if it is profitable, if it's not relational, I immediately throw it out, right? Because the profitability is so low that it just doesn't motivate me. So for instance, I understand from a business standpoint, I understand the value of having an evergreen something something. You know, something passive income, you know, something that generates income while you sleep. You know, I, I get how cool that would be to just wake up and have mailbox money as they call it down in Nashville. Like, but there's no relationship. There's no, like, it really just doesn't, fuel me at all. I would much rather create offerings that are profitable that allow me to connect with the client instead of just selling them a digital something and never talking to them. Lisa: Right. And mine, I will think of things like, okay, does this idea, before I know whether it's profitable or not, does this idea seem like it will be good for profitability? Okay, if yes, you're in, you get the shot at it. And then because relationship is high in my list, then for me, it's like, okay, now, because I do love people and I like being around people, then, okay, do I already know someone who I could ask questions of? Or do I already have customers who I know and love and the feeling is mutual and I could put in a phone call and we could have a chat about it and they could help me? That the idea I also see in the BP10 report is a watch out. It says ensure your networking activities don't detract from accomplishing other tasks. And that has totally been true in my lifetime. I can get so deep into like having the fun social part of business because it's so fun. Then is the time suck so high that it's getting out of balance for me? It is something I have to watch, especially living out in remote areas. If I'm going to do the in-person relationship thing, it's going to take a day of dedication. So is that day sometimes I'll have to say, this is a relationship day. I'm doing it on purpose to feed my relationships. But if I'm doing it for business, I would throw it out because it wouldn't be worth the hours. So sometimes I even make those delineations. Just to feel like, okay, no, I'm actually doing this because this is a real human friendship sort of thing that I want, but it is a business meeting. This wouldn't be worth eight hours of time of our friendship. I'm going to go into town. I'm going to combine it with other trips. I'm going to do these other things. So it is interesting how it comes into how I spend my time, how often I do it, what it's about. But I'll definitely think of relationship as a way to build business first, just because if you could build it 15 different ways and the relationship way is really fun, then why not go for one? If it can be profitable and fun and have a meaningful relationship all in one, I'm in. Brea: Yes. Why not? I'm in. That sounds great. You know, I, this is gonna sound bold because it is. I really, really love BP10. I love CliftonStrengths more. Okay, let's be honest. And I love how the two of them work together. It's very, very easy to see how your CliftonStrengths are really bringing the nuance to these builder talents. But I will say that BP10 is the single most valuable thing that I've done for my business, I think. Like the $20 for the code and the time that I put into the worksheets, the activities that the book kind of takes you through, like those resources that Gallup provides, if I did not do that for my business the first year that I was in business, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't still be in business today. Lisa: Bold statement. Brea: It is bold, but here's why I say it is because my profitability is so low. If I had not had an assessment show me that in just plain black and white. You know, like here it is almost all the way down at the bottom, you know. And independence being number 10. You cannot do this on your own. You don't want to do this on your own. You will not do this on your own. And if you're going to really make a business, you've got to make money, you know. So you can't just live in la la land of like, oh, I'll just spend all my time building these relationships and going to these networking things like what you just said. And hope that the dollars fall out of the sky. So even though, you laugh because you can't imagine a world, but believe me, I've lived in that world. So I think it's so powerful to see it on paper, just like it's so powerful for us to see our own CliftonStrengths, our own talents on paper and be like, okay, yeah, these are my talents, these aren't my talents. But that's the thing about BP10 that's very different than CliftonStrengths is in order to be a successful builder, according to the research that Gallup has done, you have to have all 10 of these things present in your business. And what they've understood through research is no one person has all 10 of these talents. So it's different than CliftonStrengths, right? Because we say you don't need all 34. You know, all 34 are good, but it's OK if you, you know, if you don't have all 34 as your top. But this is saying you need all 10 of these. So for me to see what I needed to be successful, what I didn't have, that if I wanted to be successful, I needed to find these things or these people. I needed to fill these gaps. It was just such a clear, simple way to figure out where do I start building this business. Lisa: Now you alluded to activities that the book takes you through or the tool would take you through. Tell the listeners about a couple of the things you remember doing and what insights you got from them. Brea: Yeah, so there are eight different worksheets, Gallup calls them tools, that you do as you kind of move through the book. So the book is called Born to Build. The tools, they're just very foundational. There's a purpose journal where it's really a self-awareness exercise, helping you figure out what's your why, what's your purpose, what experiences have you had. You get to dream a little bit about your plans for the future. I love the purpose journal because it was just reflection and dreaming and all the things that I do well, right? There's a self-schema tool that was really powerful for me that helped me kind of dig into the themes themselves. Honestly, all of them were helpful. Overall, just having that framework and that structure for me was super, super helpful. Lisa: So if somebody is listening to this and they are in a corporate job, thinking about leaving, going out on their own, what would you tell them to do with Born to Build, the book? Brea: Yeah. So if you want to do it on your own, um, go buy the book. The book has a code, very typical Gallup, right? They include the code in the back. So the book is like, I don't know, between 20 and 25 bucks, depending on the day on Amazon, read the book through and download the worksheets online and just go through, go through the book and do the worksheets as you, as you go through. And if you don't want to do it on your own, then come and do it with me in a small group that I lead. Lisa: Mm-hmm. Tell us more about that. Brea: Well, it's just doing it together. So 8 to 10 people, it's 8 to 10 weeks. And we kind of go through chapter by chapter and just slowly work our way through all the different resources. Lisa: Mm-hmm. Sounds like a great way to do, okay, one of the worksheets or one of the kind of concepts they have is the concept of a board of directors. Brea: Yes. Lisa: When I read it at first, I was like, come on. If you're talking about a solopreneur or somebody who has five contractors on their team, they're not going to have a board of directors in the typical sense. Brea: Yeah. Lisa: And at the same time, I was just poo-pooing the language, but it does give you a sense for what, you know, do you have a personal board of directors? What would this be like? And it covers what you were describing. Like if you don't have these 10, all really high, then who else do you have in your life whose opinion you respect, but thinks totally different from you, who you could make part of this process, and it's, I thought that was pretty cool after I pooh-poohed it initially. That's so funny. Brea: Yes, yes, but point is, for you to find the people, you know, to fill in the gaps, so board of directors is huge. And they talk about like, yeah, do you have a coach? Do you have a mentor? Do you have a role model? Do you have an expert? Accountability partner, I think, is one of them. So there are specific people that you need on your board to fill specific roles. Which from my experience in nonprofit world, I have seen, unfortunately, a lot of nonprofits pull together a board of directors that are just like their friends. And so I loved Gallup's board of directors because it was very specific about the perspectives that you need to surround you to make sure that you're covering all your bases. So cool. How do you feel like your CliftonStrengths, maybe think of your top five or so, how can you see those influencing your BP10 talents? Lisa: Oh yeah, well I think positivity, individualization, they're probably the two that are just so glaring as they tie to relationship. I think for profitability, my strategic mixed with my focus, mixed with my maximizer, they're the vetting factor. They're the ones who say this fits. It's kind of like I'm just, I'm very visual and I see this Venn diagram that only has two circles instead of three and one side, says, here's a service I know how to provide and love providing it. And the other side says, the market wants it and needs it. And where they overlap, boom, it's going to be profitable and it's going to be a great match. And so I think those talents line up with that. And then there are things in there with disruptor that's also in my top. And building and testing a minimally viable product, launching to early adopters, iterating, that is so maximizer. And so individualization, like let's figure out what is unique, what's a unique differentiator, what's something different that the market might have an appetite for, but it hasn't been available readily. So, that you get the novel part of things and then also be open and willing to iterate. Brea: Yeah, that's so cool. I remember first taking the assessment and selling was number five for me, which is just right smack dab in the middle. It's not high, it's not low, it's just right there, but the BP10 uses your top four, so it was not part of that top four. I could sell ketchup to someone in white gloves. I could sell ice to an Eskimo. I have been selling my entire life. I was a missionary for four years and I had to fundraise all of my income. I can sell. Why is this number five? I think it's not that you can't do something. Again, it's not as much about the outcome, similar to CliftonStrengths. It's about that...
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Why Coaches Need a Signature Offer
03/30/2025
Why Coaches Need a Signature Offer
This episode explores why having a clear and distinct signature offer is crucial for your coaching practice. Whether you're an internal coach or running your own independent gig, clarity is key! Having a clear and distinct offering can make all the difference in attracting the right clients and maximizing your impact. That’s why we discuss the importance of aligning your signature offer with both your strengths and your clients' needs. We also share tips on how to choose the right modality and service, and even how to frame your offering around the problems you solve. Plus, we sprinkle in some fun anecdotes and examples from our own experiences, to make it clear – while you can have multiple offerings, a standout signature offer makes you memorable and repeatable. So, grab a notepad and pen, settle in, and let’s get you on the path to creating a signature offer that truly reflects your unique coaching style! 🌟 Work With Us on Your Signature Offer! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways About Signature Offers ● Clarity is Kindness: When potential clients encounter a confusing array of services, they may feel overwhelmed and move on. A signature offer makes it easier for clients to understand what you do, which ultimately leads to increased interest and profit. Remember, if you confuse, you lose! ● Lead with the Problem You Solve: While it’s tempting to focus solely on the positive aspects of your services, we emphasized the importance of addressing the problems your clients face. By framing your signature offer around a specific problem, you can create urgency and relevance. This doesn’t mean you can’t highlight the positive outcomes; it’s about meeting your clients where they are and guiding them toward a solution. ● Aligning Passion with Profitability: Choosing your signature offer is about finding that sweet spot where your passion meets profitability. Don’t be afraid to pivot if your current offering isn’t fulfilling you or your clients! ● Embrace Your Unique Delivery: Recognize that your signature offer should reflect your unique strengths and style. Make it memorable and distinct so that it stands out in the market. ● Flexibility in Offerings: Just because you have a signature offer doesn’t mean you can’t have other services. It’s about creating a clear starting point while still allowing for additional offerings that can evolve over time based on client needs and your interests. Take Action as You Create Your Signature Offer ● Identify the Problem You Solve: When defining your signature offer, articulate the specific problem it addresses. This helps potential clients see the value in your service and why they should choose you. ● Analyze Profitability: Review your past offerings to determine which services generated the most revenue. Use this data to inform your decision on what should be your signature offer moving forward. ● Define Your Signature Offer: Just do it! Additional Resources ● Further Reading: Check out the book by Daniel Kahneman Join us as we explore these concepts and more in our latest episode! Whether you're refining your current offerings or just starting out, this discussion is packed with insights to help you create a signature offer that stands out. 🎧 Listen now and let us know your thoughts! What’s your signature offer? How did you choose it? We’d love to hear from you in the comments! #Coaching #SignatureOffer #Clarity #BusinessGrowth #Podcast #Leadership #ProfessionalDevelopment Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript on Signature Offers for Coaches Lisa: I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today we're talking about Mambo No. 5. Brea: Little bit of Monica. Oh my gosh, we are so funny. If people only knew how cool we were. Lisa: I know. Okay, it's Signature Offers. A little bit about why have a signature offer in your coaching practice? And a little bit of how. And you can see why this came up. A little bit of a hmm. Yeah. Let's talk why, though. What do you think, Brea? Why is it important to have a signature offer? Whether you're an internal coach or an independent coach, doesn't matter. Why do you need one of these? Brea: Right. Signature offer. So this is your standard offering, the thing that you do. Why? Because it's clear and clarity is kindness. And if you confuse, you lose. So if it's clear, it's easy for you to communicate, then that equals profit, that equals interest from people, and it attracts the people that you want to work with. Hopefully, if it's your signature offer, you love delivering it. So it's good to have a firm place to start and to stand. Not to say that we can't have other offerings as well, but we've talked about personal branding and the importance of that. This is what you are known for delivering. Lisa: Yes, I so agree with that as the number one. It's clear. And that's so important because when people are curious about what we do, if they come and they get a giant menu, it is confusing or overwhelming. You know, we have the urgent, important thing going on in our lives, like, oh, this is probably important people development, but it's just not urgent for this moment. So I'll come back and look at the menu later. That is what you do to the customer or potential customer, whether that's an internal customer or a prospect for your independent business. And even if it sounds desirable, they can just be like, I'm moving on. And that to me is why you need a signature offer so that when they're looking for that thing, it grabs them. Brea: Can we talk more about how clarity is kindness? Lisa: Yeah, I love that phrase. Brea: I'm sure it's not mine. I'm sure I've picked it up from someone way smarter than me, like Brene Brown or something is what's coming to mind. It's true, and so I'm sharing it with all of you. I don't know. Everyone listening might not know this. Your brain, when it's working, when it's doing all its stuff, it's consuming calories. That's why when you're at a conference or you're in a class or you're reading a lot, you're learning a lot, you can stand up and physically you weren't doing anything. You were sitting on your behind, but you stand up and you're like, man, I'm exhausted. Because our brain actually consumes calories. And so because of our primal instinct and all that stuff, it's our nature to want to make things simple, to conserve the energy for when a threat comes and we need to go out there and fight the dragons or whatever, you know. So the more simple, the more clear, the more easy to understand that we can make our offerings, the better. Because if the brain has to work too hard about something that it doesn't think is very important, like what you just said, Lisa, like there are other things that my brain is working on right now, it will dismiss it. And you don't want to be that thing that gets dismissed. Lisa: Oh, yes, exactly. And I say never fear everyone listening. You might be like, yeah, but I really love one-on-one coaching and I really love speeches and I really love workshops. The thing is, after you've done your favorite one or the big one or the one, let's, we'll talk in a minute about how to pick which one is the signature offer. They'll ask you, what's next? Where do we go from here? How else can I work with you? And then all of those other things can unfold. So it's not as if failing to mention all of the other ones up front means you'll never do them again. It just makes it clear and easy to digest the first go round. Brea: Yeah, that's right. That's right. Lisa: Let's talk about how you pick. So, hey, I know you have a menu. I have a menu. They're both fairly big. How do you decide what your signature would look like? Brea: I mean, for me, it comes down to profitability. That's not a strength of mine, focusing on what makes the most money or what keeps me in business. And so it's really easy for me to just look back at the data and be like, OK, last year, where did most of my money come from? What are people buying? You know, that's a real easy way for me to say, OK, well, let's lean into that. Right. We find what works and we do more of that. Lisa: And it really works for both of you. You like the service and they want to buy it. So it overlaps. That means it's a great one for both of you. Brea: Sometimes, though, what is making me the most money is not actually what I like the most. So that's a good exercise to look at that and then decide, do I want to create a signature offering that is something that I like that maybe people haven't bought in the past or haven't bought as much? Kind of like I'm thinking of you, Lisa, like when you switch to fully virtual, you know, like it's a little scary to lean into that, but that's what you needed and what you wanted and so you went for it. But that would be my first approach to the signature offer: to figure out what is your signature offer now, either on purpose or by accident, and do you want it to still be your signature offer moving forward? Lisa: Yeah, I love it. OK, so when I think of a signature offer, there's the service itself and what is the modality? So the modality, I think you pick something like, is my signature modality training, one-on-one coaching, in-person, virtual? Book tours. I mean, it could be anything that you can imagine that you could get paid for that is the service, but what's that modality? And then the service itself. So if you do retreats, it's like one-on-one or a one-on-one retreat would be weird, but you could, I guess that's a VIP day, right? Hey, hey, so there you go. If I spoke as Brea, I do the most amazing, immersive, one-on-one VIP days. I mean, imagine if a person heard that and that was them, what they would feel like. So I like that modality plus service, but then I also like adding in, be ready with a problem you solve. Because, like when I said, I help leaders build their teams after reorgs, that's kind of generic. That's not the service. That's a problem. So like, Ooh, I'm just going through a reorg, and it really stinks right now. How do you do that? Oh, I do that through half-day workshops with CliftonStrengths. And then boom, they've got your modality, your service, your problem, you've got it all in there. Brea: Yep. And that's usually where Eileen, I think we've talked about that before with my story brand background. I'm a firm believer in leading with the problem, not in a negativity or to try to scare you into working with me type of way, but in a, this is actually where people's brains are. And so if you're going to communicate with them, you need to meet them where they are, and where they are is usually working on a problem. And so, um, to align with that, I think is really smart. Yes. Yes. Lisa: And I think it is important to mention it with our audience because let's be real about who we are. We're talking a lot about coaches, trainers, speakers. Most listeners are into strengths. So if you're out there, we're all alike in the way that we see potential. We try to focus on what's great. So to turn around and say, focus on a problem, it really does like we're going to get a little glitch in your brain. Like that's not what I want to do. I want to focus people on the positive. And if you layer in human psychology, I really love Thinking Fast, Thinking Slow, even though it's the most giant book and a little heavy to get through. But Daniel Kahneman, Nobel Prize-winning behavioral economist, put the stats behind what Brea just said—that people are two times more likely to act if they're moving away from a negative versus when they're moving toward a positive. So giving the feel-good potential is nice. And you can also create more urgency and interest if you can help them solve a problem that's pressing and eating up their headspace. Yeah, and it is positive to serve them in that way because they can get that negative thing over with. Brea: Yep, that's right. I have helped a lot of coaches with their marketing of their signature offer and even the creation of their signature offer that fits with them. Many strengths coaches keep coming back to this point of like, I don't want to offer something that solves a problem. I want, you know, I want to work with people who want to really integrate strengths into their organization. I don't want to work with organizations or managers that are in the middle of a problem. I want to work with people who are thriving, you know, and they want to get more of that. So we want to bring strengths in. So that's fine. You don't have to have a negative. Your solution doesn't have to be to go into the depths of the problem areas with people. You can have a really positive, proactive, strength-focused solution. And recognize that whoever's buying that does have a problem, even if it's not a problem like you would normally define it. Like, um, such as maybe their problem is they just have too much going on. They really want to provide excellent professional development for their team. They really want this, you know, offsite to just rock their people. Their people have been working so hard, and they want to reward them, they want to appreciate them—all the positive things that give us all the, you know, all the tinglys as strengths coaches. That's what they want. They don't have time to do that themselves. Boom. There's your problem. Lisa: Yes. Yes. And you know what you sparked for me? I had a—in a past role, I worked for another company, and we had a signature offer of training that was two full days. And I was an executive in charge of this product. And you know what the number one feedback was from customers? It wasn't about the content. It was about the length. It was two days. "We can't give people two days." "What? Two days?" "Could you make this a half a day?" "Could you make this a half a day?" "Could you make this a half a day?" I heard so many times, Could you make this half a day? that when I started Lead Through Strengths, I was like, Absolutely, 100%, my signature offer is going to be a half day because I heard from so many big corporate people who were my audience that that is the amount of time that was palatable for them to give. And I didn't want to fight all the objections of two days. Would I rather spend two days with them immersing in their awesomeness? Yeah, that sounds pretty fun. Yet I knew what needed to be signature. Once in a while, they'll ask to extend it and they'll do the full-day version, but it is actually really rare. It's just such a sweet spot of a time, and that has stood the test of a decade. It's really incredible. Brea: I have also found that and kind of gave into it. You know, I was like, Okay, sure, well, we can accommodate, you know, I'll customize, I'll take some stuff out, we'll squeeze it in, you know, to half a day. But that doesn't satisfy me. I love the full day, two-day, or even, you know, some micro-learnings once a month for a year. Or, you know, packaging it in smaller bites like that is what fuels me. So I've learned that I need to hold out for those customers, and I need to be specific and market to those customers. And there are less of them, you know. Like you said, a lot of people are looking for the half day. So that's my signature offer: Look, I can create this experience. I'll take care of everything. I'll find the venue. I'll find the food. Like, you don't have to worry about a thing. You just sit back and I got this. All you have to do is show up, and I promise to make you the person that hired me—I promise to make you the hero. I'm going to create this amazing experience for your team, and you get to take all the credit and all the fruit from what comes from it in days to come. So for coaches that are listening, it's just so important to look at your own strengths and create a signature offer that fits with you and satisfies the need of your customer. Lisa: Yes. I love everything you said. It made me think of Carol Wheeler. She's one of our fellow coaches in New Braunfels, Texas. Shout out, Texas. And she's got this physical space in New Braunfels, Texas, and she owns that market. If you're in New Braunfels and you're doing leadership training, strengths training, she's the person that you will think of or that colleagues will refer to because she owns that space. And that's a beautiful thing about signature offers too. It's ownable because it is—the more distinct, the more differentiated, the more other people can help you. So it's another good reason to have a signature offer because it makes you memorable and repeatable for other people. It makes it easy to share. Brea: I mean, you know, I love words, and the phrase signature offer is so on point because when we think about an actual signature—yes, it's writing our name, it's writing these letters, but my signature of my name is so unique to me. No one else can deliver that in the same way. And I think, you know, if you want to really create a true signature offer, that's the impact that you can have. It's so unique in the way that you deliver it that you own that space. I love that. What a great example. Yes. Lisa: And I think for me, closing with some wisdom from Tyann Osborn, one of our fellow strengths coaches. She always talks about how just because you have this signature offer doesn't take away the fact that you have the credibility of the other offers that you have, and it doesn't mean that those go away. Getting really clear doesn't mean those other things disappear. It just makes that one thing stand out. Brea: There you go. Lisa: There you go. Then Whoomp, there it is. Brea: Whoomp, there it is. That reminds me of D2: The Mighty Ducks. It's probably in a lot of movies and whatever, but that's where I think I first heard that song. Lisa: I don't even know what that is. D2: The Mighty Ducks? What? Brea: The Mighty Ducks? You've never seen The Mighty Ducks? Wait, is that a hockey team? Lisa: Okay, I don't know if I've ever seen it. Brea: Oh my gosh, Lisa. Okay, well, Slumber Party at Lisa's house! We're watching Mighty Ducks and D2. It'll be a movie marathon. Oh my gosh. There's so much pop culture I'm behind on. Any other 90s kids out there? Your jaw is on the floor just like mine. I'm like, Oh my gosh, The Sandlot, Mighty Ducks... I mean, just right back to my middle school years. I love it. Love it. Lisa: Yeah, if you ever want to just have people's jaws drop at the things I do not know or understand, name celebrities and movies like that, and I'll just be like, I don’t know. I mean, music—I have pretty broad taste. I can do that kind of pop culture. But movies and television shows? I've never been a watcher. And so I am just real behind on those kinds of things. Brea: Oh my gosh. Well, that's all right. We can catch you up to speed. We can catch you up to...
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Strengths and Your Personal Brand as a Coach
03/16/2025
Strengths and Your Personal Brand as a Coach
In today's episode, we dive into building your personal brand as a coach. You’ll hear about "Connected Kelly," a coach who initially felt pressured to conform to an analytical persona in her big tech job, only to discover that her true strength—Connectedness—was what truly set her apart. You’ll learn how she transformed her approach, leading to a more fulfilling and energized coaching practice. We also explore practical tips for building your personal brand, including how to identify the challenges you can help solve and how to communicate your unique value effectively. Whether you're an independent coach or working internally at a company, it’s important to be specific in your messaging to connect with your ideal clients. So, if you’re ready to make sure your coaching brand aligns with your personal brand, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice to help you shine! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways ● Your differences are your differentiators: Don’t shy away from what makes you different. Like Connected Kelly, who initially suppressed her connectedness, recognizing and embracing your unique strengths can lead to a more fulfilling coaching practice. ● Be specific in your messaging: Vague statements like "I help you live your best life." are unclear and uninteresting. Instead, focus on clear, compelling messages that resonate with your audience, such as "I help get your emails get read." This specificity helps potential clients see the value you offer. ● You are your brand: Your personal brand is a reflection of who you are. By aligning your strengths, values, and messaging, you’ll create a cohesive brand that resonates with your audience and showcases your unique contributions. ● Narrowing your focus can attract more clients: When it comes to marketing, less is more! Don’t fear that specializing will limit your opportunities. Instead, it can help you attract clients who are specifically looking for the solutions you provide, ultimately leading to a more successful coaching practice. Take Action ● Identify Your Strengths: Reflect on your unique strengths and how they contribute to your coaching practice. Let your differences be your differentiators – in your brand, your business model, and beyond. ● Identify the Challenges You Solve:: Determine the specific challenges you want to address as a coach. Consider what problems your ideal clients face and how your strengths can help solve those issues. This will help you create targeted messaging that resonates with your audience. ● Craft Your Messaging: Develop a clear, concise, and compelling answer to the question, "What do you do?". ● Utilize Your Online Presence: Update your LinkedIn profile and other online platforms to reflect your personal brand. Incorporate your strengths and the specific problems you solve in your headlines and descriptions to attract the right clients. ● Engage with Your Audience: Actively communicate your value and the unique contributions you bring to your coaching practice. Share insights, tips, and success stories that highlight your strengths and the impact you can have on your clients' lives. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in building their personal brand. Join us as we explore the power of aligning your personal brand with your coaching practice.! 🎧 Listen now and let us know your thoughts! We’d love to hear from you! #PersonalBrand #Coaching #PersonalDevelopment #Podcast #Leadership #CoachingTips #StrengthsBasedCoaching Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: I’m Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is strengths and your personal brand as a coach. Brea: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love this topic. Let's just dive in. Lisa: I'm so excited. Okay, let's dive in. I want to dive in with an example of something that happened with a coach who was building a personal brand as a coach and she didn't know it and it wasn't at all what she would have done on purpose. Ooh, I'm intrigued. Tell us more. Brea: Because I think that so many people fall into this trap. Lisa: Yeah. Heck yes, we do. I imagine most of us have done this where we unintentionally built a reputation on something that we just became skilled at because we practiced it a lot. And this person, I'm going to call her Connected Kelly. I made up her name because I want to keep her anonymous. But she led through connectedness, hence Connected Kelly. Brea: And alliteration. We love alliteration. OK. I mean, who doesn't? Lisa: OK. She's a real client. She works in big tech. And she felt like I need to be analytical. That's what I need to be, to be believed, to be credible, to be desired in this company, to be found useful in this company. I mean, we could go on and on, but analytical was the thing that she really grabbed onto as important for her to be. So she spent a lot of years really honing it, doing analytical actions, showing analytical skills, and showing up that way. Brea: And probably because she's surrounded with people who are acting like this or who are showing up that way. She feels like she has to be that too. Yeah. Okay. I'm with you. Lisa: Yeah. And I can, I mean, my individualization loves that in many ways because I'm thinking, well, she's being palatable to the people that she's around. So she's thinking, this is who I need to be for them. Otherwise they won't value me. And specifically when we talked about connectedness, she was like, oh, that's for my friends. Brea: She's like, that part of me doesn't belong at work. You know, that's my at home or my with friends. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Lisa: Yeah. She really felt deeply like it didn't belong there. Like it would get shunned there. It would get made fun of there. She said it felt like people would perceive it as woo woo, that it would just not go over well. So she just shut it off, like put up the wall, anything. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So what's the results of it now? She it's not like she was faking it. She legitimately built analytical skills and she legitimately used them with her clients, but the repercussion is She was completely wiped out. It was sucking the life out of her because it wasn't fun. It was just something she could do And I think this is a really important lesson for building a personal brand as a coach, because if you do what you're competent at, you're going to get more of that. She's great. She's an amazing performer, an amazing person. So she kept getting more of the work she didn't want because she showed up and she was good at the work she didn't want. Brea: That's the worst, the worst. Lisa: It's a bad cycle. Brea: Digging your own grave, you know. Lisa: Yes, yes. Now we did some things with it so I can tell you what I did with her and then I want to switch over to things that you might do with her after she's to the point where she's ready. She feels good about her personal brand aligned with her strengths so that her personal brand as a coach is making her feel alive. It's bringing her clientele that she loves. So I have this personal branding page. It's leadthroughstrengths.com slash personal dash branding. We started there. We started looking at her top five. We really honed in on connectedness because it was one she said she was squashing. And we just use it as a starting point because she's like, OK, genuine. Well, that's a good thing for me to be as a coach. Being present with people, that's a good one. Okay. And then we start talking about things like, Oh, I see downstream effects. I understand how parts are connected. I have good rapport across departments. Okay, like all these things could be useful internally. I just shut it off. Because I thought it was the woo-woo strength. So first pass through, it was really cool, because she realized What a fool! Why am I shutting all this off? There are actually things that I believe people in big tech would value. And in fact, she's realizing people are like, oh, wow, you're an intrapersonal genius. And they're seeing these elements of her that she didn't show before. And they're things that the clients wanted from her and really valued because they don't know how to do that at all. So that was cool. Brea: Yeah, it's the lie that we tell ourselves that when we are different, the talents that we might have that are different than what we see around us, we believe that it won't be valued or that it won't be wanted. And sometimes that is true, but most of the time it is very valuable because other people don't have it. They don't have that capacity, they don't have that ability, and when they saw that in her, that uniqueness, it became her differentiator, right? That's the word that you like to use, Lisa. Lisa: Yeah, that your differences are your differentiators. Exactly. Brea: Yes, yes. I think Gallup's focus on naming, claiming, and aiming is what's coming to my head here. When she was able to look at connectedness and really name it, really understand what that talent is. Maybe it had been called the woo-woo strength, but it was so much more than that. So when she was able to start finding new definitions for that talent theme, I think that opens up so much potential for us to then claim it, for us to love it in ourselves, you know, for her to see how it could be beneficial at work and how she could love working. How her life at work could actually energize her instead of draining her energy and sucking her soul. She could come to work and thrive and it could increase the connection that she makes with her employees. And so then when she was able to better understand what it is and what it could be and she could get excited about it and really own it, then she started to aim it and that's where all the magic happens. So what a great example. Lisa: So, one of the things she named it as was Integrator. She was working with a bunch of software developers, hardware engineers, and what happens is the engineers speak in specifications. That's what was important to them. But At some point, somebody has to translate that to the non-technical people, whether that is to the marketing team so that you could talk about that to a customer audience and they could actually understand it or otherwise. So she started thinking of herself as an integrator because she could see all the connections, because she could speak human. They felt like she was a complete genius in this area, but that never got exposed until she started looking at connectedness as this great element of herself and it really became key in her personal brand as a coach. So, okay, Bria, I know you are a StoryBrand coach and that you keep it under the covers all the time and people don't even know this about you. Let's get some of this magic out of this brain you have on StoryBrand. Brea: Yes, I was trained in StoryBrand. That’s true. Lisa: Yeah, OK, so now let's say she wants to work her personal brand as a coach now and connectedness and being an integrator and being perceptive, being a connector. These are some parts of her messaging. If she came to you and said, OK, now what? How do I build this reputation? How do I begin to change it? How do I do the messaging? What kind of things come up for you and what could be valuable that you could bring? Because I think you have this unique lens because you have story brand and strengths mixed together and it's so cool and I want the audience to get it from you. Brea: Yeah, thank you. That's why I call my business Strength+Story. I use both of those things all the time. So this is a fun conversation to have. So if you've never heard of StoryBrand, it's a marketing framework that is built on or let's maybe even say adapted from just general framework of story because there's so much scientific proof and just I think all of us have experience of how story it connects with our brains in a very powerful way. and there's a framework to it. It's not by accident that the blockbuster movies or the best-selling books are blockbusting or best-selling. That's not by accident. It's by design. So essentially, if you are adapting this to your brand as a coach, there's a challenge that you help people overcome. So most good stories start with a bomb going off, you know, something that's like really challenging, a problem that needs to be fixed, right? That's what grabs our attention and locks us in from the very beginning, the, the bomb ticking away, right? So what is that challenge that you as a coach, want to solve for the world, for a particular client, for your company, if you're an internal coach like Connected Kelly, what is the challenge that you have a personal mission to overcome? If you can identify that for yourself, then you can build your messaging around that. Because when you're communicating that challenge in your messaging and in your branding, in the way you talk about your services, if you're leading with that challenge, you're going to attract the people who need that solution, right? So it's not a marketing gimmick. It's not a way to manipulate people or to scare people into working with you. It's a real way of connecting with the people who need your services. So I would say that's a great place to start. And it sounds like Connected Kelly did that where it was kind of a backwards on accident way of doing it. So the challenge is to figure it out first so that you can put that out there in your messaging and your branding. Lisa: on purpose. It is funny that you say this because there's something really simple that was going on with the problem that linked to her brand which was just no one reads my emails. And it's because they were boring speeds and feeds, they were not compelling, they were not written from the perspective of the reade: an internal person who's really busy in back-to-back meetings all day. and she's offering coaching services to people who don't really know what a coach is or how a coach can help. When she realized the thing that would grab them: ‘I can help your emails get read. I can help you get responses, get noticed by your peers so that you become the collaborator.’ So the kind of things that they were having problem with and frustration with, like, ‘hey, I sent an email off and it goes into a black hole.’ Now it doesn't. Now she is helping them. because she's the integrator, she's helping them communicate with their colleagues in a way that helps them get noticed. And it's because of her connectedness. It's because she can think beyond the analytical. So I really love that because she was solving that problem for them and loved solving that problem for them. And it was easy for her to do that. And they thought she was a genius. And she never thought about messaging like this. She was just like, hey, we're here. We can help you live your best life. This is something that we're guilty of as coaches. We're like, oh, everyone needs a coach. It's so powerful. It's amazing. You want to feel good again? You want to live your best life? But inspiration like that actually doesn't drive people to action the way that solving a problem for them does. Brea: That's right. That's right. And this is where it can be so interesting because You can approach the problem from two different ways. You can look at the problem that your client or your potential client is facing, like no one reads my emails, and make that the problem that you solve. That's a great way to do it because your client is the hero of their own story. So when they hear your messaging, it needs to be their story that they hear or else they're not interested, right? so many other things pulling for their attention, right? So make it easy for them. The other way to do it is to look at your strengths. And if you if you are a certified strengths coach, you know this language of bring and need. What do each of your strengths bring? What do they contribute? What problems do they solve really, really well with ease? And you love solving those problems. And then just make that your business, right? Choose that problem and then put it out there and let the right people find you. So you can go either way and I think that's the first place to start. If you're listening now and you're like, I really want to work on being intentional about my personal brand as a coach, I would say start with your strengths. figure out what problems you solve really naturally and you want to solve and then build your business around that or figure out what are the problems that your clients are already coming to you for, right, that you have successfully helped people with and figure out how your strengths are doing that and then be intentional about really leaning into that and building your brand around that. Lisa: I love this conversation and it overlaps so much with the one about And I know we'll do a separate episode on what your niche is as a coach. But there's overlap because it's like this all relates to what is your specialty? What is unique about working with you? And if you're not clear in your messaging, then you just overwhelm people with options and they scroll on by because you really have to grab attention with somebody, especially today. There are so many things competing for attention. So that person has to be like, whoa, that was written for me. And so if she is the one saying, I hope your emails get noticed. I hope your emails get read by colleagues. I hope your specifications get implemented properly. Whatever it is, that wouldn't grab me personally, but I'm not her client. So that's the beauty of it. We know to scroll on by because we're not her client, but the people who are are like, whoa, I need that. And I think the objection that coaches have to this is we think if I narrow too much, then people won't know what else I could do for them when I decided to specialize in virtual. I remember the angst I had about putting that on the website, like we specialize in virtual training. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to lose all my in-person workshops. It's going to be detrimental to the business. It's not what happened at all. I attracted more virtuals. And then plenty of people still said, Oh, do you also do in-person? Why? Yes, we do. Brea: Because people are not idiots. They can fill in the blanks. They can make those very...
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Should You Avoid Bias in Coaching?
03/02/2025
Should You Avoid Bias in Coaching?
Every coach grapples with today’s topic: Should you avoid bias while coaching? We kick things off by acknowledging that the answer isn't as straightforward as it seems. While many might instinctively say "yes," we explore the nuances of bias and how it can actually play a positive role in coaching. Whether you're an independent coach or working within a company or organization, this episode is packed with insights to help you embrace your unique coaching style while still being the best support for your clients. Let's get into it! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways ● Bias Isn't Always Bad: We often think of bias as a negative trait, but in coaching, it can actually be a powerful tool. Our personal biases—rooted in our strengths and experiences—can enhance our coaching effectiveness. For instance, if you have a strong belief in your clients' potential, that bias can help them borrow your confidence as they work toward their goals. Embracing our biases can lead to more authentic connections with our clients. ● Awareness of Preferences: As coaches, it's crucial to recognize our own preferences and how they shape our coaching style. Understanding our preferences helps us create a coaching environment that aligns with our strengths while also being transparent with our clients about how we operate. This clarity can help clients determine if we're the right fit for them. ● The Balance Between Coaching and Expertise: Sometimes, coaches feel pressured to avoid giving direct advice, fearing it may introduce bias. However, there are moments when sharing our expertise is not only appropriate but necessary. It’s about finding the right balance—knowing when to ask powerful questions and when to provide guidance based on our knowledge and experience. Take Action ● Reflect on Your Biases: Take time to identify and acknowledge your own biases and preferences as a coach. Consider how these may influence your coaching style and interactions with clients. ● Communicate Your Preferences: Clearly articulate your coaching preferences and styles to potential clients. This transparency can help clients determine if you are a good fit for their needs. ● Balance Coaching and Expertise: Recognize when to lean into your expertise and provide direct advice versus when to facilitate a coaching conversation. ● Leverage Positive Bias: Use your positive biases, such as belief in your clients' potential or your focus on strengths, to support and encourage them. Allow clients to borrow your belief in their capabilities to help them progress. ● Embrace Differences as Strengths: Foster an environment where diverse perspectives and biases are seen as advantages. Encourage open discussions about biases within teams to enhance collaboration and understanding. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in personal development. Join us as we explore the nuances of bias in coaching and how to leverage it for better outcomes! 🎧 Listen now and let us know your thoughts! What biases do you find helpful in your coaching practice? How do you navigate your preferences? We’d love to hear from you! #Coaching #Bias #PersonalDevelopment #Podcast #Leadership #CoachingTips #StrengthsBasedCoaching Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is all for coaches. And it's this question: Should you avoid bias while coaching? What say you, Brea? Brea: Well, this sounds like it's going to be a juicy topic. That's what I say. I think it's not so clear black or white this time. I feel like there's a lot of gray here. Lisa: Right. And I think people will be listening. You tell us, listeners—did you say, "I don't even know if I want to listen to this one because, of course, the answer is yes, I should avoid it?" I don't even need to listen. Skip. Brea: Yeah. I mean, that was my first thought. Like, well, of course, you should. That's my, you know, what all of the gold-star coaching programs are going to tell you. Lisa: Yeah, I feel like you get the message both ways. You should avoid bias while coaching, and you should avoid bias in all areas of life altogether. And I think a good discussion is warranted. Why don't we start with where bias would be bad? Whether you have an independent coaching practice or you're an internal coach in a workplace, I have two things that feel like bias that you should be on watch for. One, I have an agenda for you. I want you to own your own business, not stay in corporate. I want you to have bigger goals for your revenue. I want you—those are my wants, not yours. That could bring a huge bias. So having an agenda for you could be a warning sign where you really should avoid that bias while coaching. The other is when my preferences blind me as a coach. Brea: I'd like to talk more about that. Sometimes, as an independent coach with my own business practice, where I'm the business owner and I've got a business model and a strategy to make a profit, my preferences play into that big picture. That’s very different from being an internal coach at a company where my only job is to show up for 30 minutes and coach. So maybe we could talk about preferences a little more. Lisa: That's an example. Say I'm your customer and I come to your coaching business, and you have some preference. Give us an example of what that actually sounds like. I think with this idea of avoiding bias, we’re going to get people caught up in semantics. Brea: Yeah. Everything from how many coaching calls I want to do in a day, a week, or a month, to how long I want them to be. Do I want video? If so, is there a certain platform that is easier for me? I strongly prefer Zoom over things like Teams or Google Meet. Just because I've been using Zoom for as long as I've had my business—almost eight years. So, I’m very familiar with Zoom. That’s a functional bias of ease of use. Lisa: Yeah, they create clarity for you. And something that’s simple and practical can be an area that allows the customer to decide if you’re a good fit for them. You could think of putting out biases to the world like an exercise in saying, "Here’s how I show up best." If these are a good match for you, we’re getting off to a great start. Brea: Yep, that’s right. And it's interesting because all of this comes from our strengths, right? There are coaches out there who appreciate having an agenda as a structure. Some coaches have a general outline of their sessions. Some coaches use slide decks. I prefer to just show up, meet them as they are in the moment, and go with a casual flow. I don’t do worksheets during sessions. That awareness of personal bias is so key. Lisa: You're actually getting me to think beyond preferences into advice-giving when your client really wants it. Say you’ve been delivering CliftonStrengths for ten years in a specific industry. Now a client asks, "Hey, coach, give me your recommendations on how we should implement this." And coaches get wrapped up in avoiding bias. Brea: Isn’t that ironic? Because that in and of itself is a bias, isn’t it? Lisa: Boom. Yes! And if a client comes to you because you have expertise but you refuse to share it, you’re just going to be frustrating. Sometimes, you are a person with an expert perspective. Not every part of every conversation is a coaching moment. Brea: Yeah. I love that. I think I run my business and life that way. Every interaction I have with others is just me, Brea Roper, human being. Lisa: Yes. And another reason why the answer to "Should you avoid bias while coaching?" might be no. What if you are a specialty coach? Like an accountability coach? Or take this: I once heard of a woman who was a deltoid coach. Literally, a shoulder deltoid coach. Brea: What do you mean? Lisa: Like, she helps people with deltoid strength, mobility, and appearance. That’s her specialty. She’s going to have a system, a structure, a bias. And that’s good. Brea: Yeah, similar to strengths coaching. I intentionally lean into the bias of focusing on strengths. If that’s what the client wants, that’s a good thing. Lisa: Right. And that is a cognitive bias, right? We’re wired to figure out what’s wrong as humans. But what if we leaned into a positive cognitive bias? Brea: Yes! And I think most people immediately associate bias with negativity. Recognizing that we can use bias for good is crucial. Lisa: Yes! One last example: Sometimes clients don’t believe in themselves. I let them borrow my belief in them. I’m biased toward their success. Brea: You are so good at believing in people. That’s what we’re talking about—being aware of our own strengths and using them when needed. Lisa: Yeah. Sometimes clients say, "I want to start my coaching business, but I don’t know if I can cut it." They don’t believe in themselves yet, but they expect their clients to believe in them. I help bridge that gap with my belief in them. Brea: Yeah. And bias plays into communication, too. My communication strength hears something differently than your strategic strength. That impacts our responses. Lisa: Yes! And in workshops, that always comes up. The way we ask questions and interpret answers reflects our biases. Instead of running from bias, let’s explore it. Brea: So cool. And recognizing our different cognitive patterns only helps if we’re aligned toward the same goal. Our differences are advantages. Lisa: Yes! Your phrase, "Differences are advantages," sums it up perfectly. Recognize bias, use it with purpose, and turn it into an advantage. Brea: Absolutely. And if someone wants to work with me, they can find me at brearoper.com. Lisa, where can they find you? Lisa: leadthroughstrengths.com—check out Tools for Coaches for independent or internal coaches. Brea: Amazing. And in closing, avoiding bias for the sake of avoiding bias only disconnects you from authenticity. Recognize it, use it with purpose, and let your differences be your differentiators. Lisa: Agreed! Strength snaps! Brea: See you next time! Lisa: Bye! Brea: Bye! Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | The Fine Print: This podcast is not sanctioned or endorsed by Gallup in any way. Opinions, views and interpretations of CliftonStrengths© are solely the beliefs of Lisa Cummings and Brea Roper.
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Working on Your Business
02/16/2025
Working on Your Business
In today's episode, we dive into the essential, yet often overlooked, concept of "working on your business" versus "working in your business." We share our personal experiences and insights on how taking intentional time to strategize can transform your entrepreneurial journey. If you've ever felt like you're just spinning your wheels, constantly reacting to the demands of your business, this episode is for you! We discuss the importance of stepping back, assessing your goals, and making those scary but necessary decisions that can lead to greater profitability and joy in your work. You’ll hear us chat about the value of business planning retreats and how they can help you align your offerings with your strengths. Whether you’ve been in the game, are building a side hustle, or are still dreaming of the entrepreneurial life, it’s imperative to pause, reflect, and create a roadmap for success. So pull up a chair, settle in, and get ready to be inspired to take that much-needed time for yourself and your business! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways ● The Importance of Working on Your Business: Taking time to strategize and plan is crucial for long-term success. It helps you shift from a reactive mindset to a proactive one, allowing you to set clear goals and work with intention. ● Align Your Business With Your Strengths: When you’re the business owner, you get to choose how you run your business. YOU’re the boss now! Make sure you practice what you preach and choose a business model that fits your strengths. ● Business Planning Retreats: Dedicating a day or more to work on your business, instead of in your business, can lead to significant breakthroughs. These retreats provide the space to assess your offerings, refine your messaging, and make strategic decisions that align with your desired lifestyle. ● Customization vs. Standardization: While creating custom solutions for clients can be appealing, it’s essential to find a balance. Standardizing certain offerings can save time and energy, and bring clarity to your customer. ● Understanding Profitability: Knowing where your revenue comes from is vital. By identifying your most profitable offerings, you can make informed decisions about where to invest your time and resources, ensuring that your business remains sustainable and enjoyable. ● Embracing Scary Decisions: Making bold choices can feel limiting, but they are often necessary for growth. By stepping back and evaluating your business strategy, you can confidently embrace changes that lead to greater fulfillment and success. Take Action ● Schedule a Business Planning Retreat: Set aside a full day to work on your business strategically. Use this time to assess your current offerings, define your target audience, and outline your business goals. ● Identify Your Core Focus: Determine the one big thing you want to focus on for the upcoming quarter or year. This will help filter your decisions and keep you from getting distracted by new opportunities that may not align with your primary goals. ● Evaluate Your Offerings: Analyze where your revenue is coming from and identify your most profitable offerings. Decide if you want to double down on these or pivot to new opportunities that align better with your strengths and interests. ● Create a Customization Strategy: If you offer customized solutions, establish a clear pricing structure for these services. Consider implementing tailoring fees or premium pricing for highly customized work to ensure it is profitable. ● Reflect on Your Business Alignment: Take time to assess whether your current business model aligns with your strengths and desired lifestyle. Make adjustments as necessary to ensure that your business empowers you to live the life you want. If you're ready to stop being heads down all the time and start working on your business with intention, I invite you to listen to this episode! 🎧 👉 Listen now and let us know your thoughts! What strategies do you use to work on your business? Share in the comments below! #Entrepreneurship #BusinessPlanning #Coaching #Podcast #Leadership #IntentionalLiving Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Brea: Lisa Cummings Lisa: Brea Roper. Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today we're talking about working on your business. Brea: Working on your business. Yes, because let me tell you, working in your business is so fun. working on your business, not always, but gosh, when we do it, it makes working in the business so much easier and smoother and more profitable and all the things, right? Lisa: Right. I remember first learning about this concept from the book E-Myth and E-Myth revisited way back. I mean, it must have been the nineties. I wasn't an entrepreneur at the time, but I served them. They were our customers and I think the example in the book was something about a frame shop. And it was like, imagine the person who is framing stuff all day long. Frame, frame, frame, frame, frame. You’re so busy. But then what about bringing in customers? What about taking a vacation? What about having a break? And we have these dreams of starting a business and what our life might be like as an entrepreneur. It definitely kind of looks sexy to people who aren't doing it. often. And then you get in and you're like, Oh my gosh, I'm just working like a dog. What am I doing? I don't have a single break to even think or eat lunch. So I'm curious for you, have you gotten in that place in your business before where you were just working yourself to the bone? You seem like you would be a person who never let yourself do it because you're so good at intention. Brea: Okay, well, thank you for saying that. But no, it happens all the time. It happens all the time because even with the best of intentions, it's so easy to get blown off course, especially for people like me who, you know, I love to plan and I'm very adaptable. I'm very like emotional, you know? So if I'm not feeling it, I'm like, Oh, I'm just going to go take care of myself, you know, go for a walk, go eat my feelings, you know, whatever. And that's not the best way to, to set yourself up for success. Right. So we have to find that blend that works for you. And sometimes it is working yourself to the bone. Right now, I'm actually setting up for a big speaking tour. So there's just a ton of work that has to be done on the business so that when the tour starts, you know, that first domino falls and I'm not working on the business at all. For several months, I'm working in the business, right? So However the rhythm works for you, it's just so important to make sure that you're doing both and that it's intentional and focused instead of just reacting to everything. That's the worst way to to run your business, you know? Yeah. And I have definitely, definitely fallen into that, that trap for sure. Lisa: Yeah. Brea Roper is a mortal. Brea: Yes. Lisa: I could see that where you're like, I'm over self caring. I could, I could definitely see that. I also think in talking to coaches and trainers very specifically in this episode, a lot of times we're talking about, Hey, you're a CliftonStrengths practitioner, that sort of thing. And that could be internal in a company that could be a coach who does this full time. And there are a lot of listeners who are either independent coaches, or trainers, or they're doing it at a company internally, they're doing something else, and they want to start a business like the one we have. And we know they exist and they're all over the place because we typically get one to five of these people hanging out after every workshop saying, how do I live this life? How do I do this thing that you do? This is so cool. So how valuable would it be to work on your business from the beginning? I'm thinking of that person who is starting up a side hustle. They're interested in this and they've never done a business planning retreat. They've never worked on their business in a way that they take a day off. and they really figure out what they want their lifestyle to be, what they have as a profitable business model, you know? Have they even tested out their idea for their product and their messaging? Do they feel solid on it? And I love this episode for the corporates who are going to leave someday out on their own, or the coaches who are already on their own, independent, and they just have a tough time taking off a full day or a big chunk of a day to work on their business strategically. So what is it for you? Tell me about the why. Why do you do this on regular intervals? Brea: Yeah, well, because I have to for my sanity, you know, because I've seen how beneficial it is. I've experienced being an entrepreneur without it. and running a business from that place of reacting, you know, as leads come in or as opportunities arise or don't arise, you know, then all of a sudden you're like, oh crap, I have nothing on the calendar. And then any sales conversation you're in is from a place of desperation. So if you can make sure that you're setting yourself up for success by giving yourself that intentional time to find who do I really want to work with, right? Who's the customer that I really want to serve and how do I want to serve them? That takes time, you know, and shaping your business is, I think one of the greatest things about being an entrepreneur is that we get to choose. And I've seen in myself and I've seen in coaches that I've coached, when we don't take that step back and do that intentional planning, how working for yourself can feel just like working for the man, you know? The place that you left, the stress that you were trying to get away from, it just actually becomes more, you know, if you don't take the time to put the thought and the planning in. Lisa: Yeah, you just got yourself a bad boss and it's you! Brea: It's you! I know, I know. Lisa: Yeah, I love this also for stopping the squirrel. So you know, people are like, oh, squirrel, squirrel. We are like this quite often as coaches, as trainers, as course creators, as speakers. we get a lead on a thing and someone is like, Oh, okay, what's next? What about this? Do you have any content on this? Do you have any content on that? Do you have any content on this? And sometimes strategically, it is a great idea to do it. Other times, it ends up taking you a month of work to create a new program, roll it out to their people, and maybe you're doing it one or two times. And when you sit back and look at whether there was a return on that effort, yes, can you reuse it? Can you resell it? Will you? Those are all strategic decisions you could make up front. But I've seen a lot of coaches get really distracted by the squirrel opportunity, the potential squirrel opportunity, and also the kind of squirrel thoughts on learning, like, oh, this is cool. Oh, I should be doing AI. Oh, I should be doing more on this element. Oh, I should make some content over here. Oh, I like learning on this topic. So I'm going to go take some more training. [[Instead of really focusing on one big thing for that year in front of you or that quarter in front of you.]] So I love having a business planning retreat. or a business planning day to work on your business and get your brain reset and get it really focused on what is the one big thing you're working on right now so that you can keep filtering your decisions through that? Like, is this a good use of my time? Should I be, even though there are a lot of fun things we could do, are they going to make money? Are they taking the business in the direction I want it to go in? It gives you the moment to get a big breath and assess. Brea: So I love this and I hate this at the exact same time. Well, here's the thing is because it's so true. So if you're listening to Lisa and feeling like me on the inside, like I don't want to just do one thing. I don't want to focus on, you know, I don't want to create something and then rinse and repeat. I don't want to, right? Like, I've been there, I am there every day, and that is not, almost always, not the way to profitability, not the way to ease. But if you have high individualization like I do, and like I know you do, Lisa, so I want to hear how you balance that. But my individualization was killing me in the way that you're describing, where if anyone said, do you have content on this? I'm like, sure. Do I? No. But can I make it? Yes. Will I? Yes. And all of a sudden, all my talents are engaged. I'm like, yes, I get to do this for this person or this company. But like you said, it takes so much time, right? So for me, I have to honor my talents. And what I've learned is that when someone comes and they ask for that custom solution that I don't have, I have to charge for it. Like this is a premium offering. These are my talents. giving them something that has never existed before ever. This is not an out-of-the-box solution. If what they want is an off-the-shelf, out-of-the-box, you know, press play and go, like, they can get that anywhere. If they want something that is customized to them, to their values that they have hanging on the wall. If we want to learn how to use the strengths of their team and the strengths of the individuals on their team to live these values at work in their interactions with their customers every day, then they're going to pay for that. And I'm happy to create it. But it's it's not pennies on the dollar like I was doing, you know, before. Lisa: Yeah. I definitely agree that individualization can create a monkey wrench in this way. It does for me. Similarly, I love customization. It's a thing with individualization. I started off trying to solve that problem with tailoring fees. I would be like, okay, if it's a really customized thing, there would be a tailoring fee and make sure that they know it's super premium. I found over time that what really worked out better for both of us was, Look, I have a standard deck for a half-day program and a full-day program, if we're talking CliftonStrengths. And I have a handful of exercises in there. Say there are 5 exercises. that if I just get a little bit of information from them on their values, the programs they're implementing right now, a couple of hot-button topics, what challenges are going on, I can integrate those into the exercises as examples. I could change in literally 15 minutes. I can change some words on the screen to customize the exercise, and then they're having whole conversations on things that matter to their team, and it feels very customized. I got really good over time at making it feel like customization to both of us, to them and to me, but very minimal time because I standardized what I was customizing. And then I also, if I take Maximizer and Strategic and I said, all right, now if I am going to do mega customization, I'm going to make sure that if I do it, they're going to pay a mega premium or they're going to offer at least six of these programs so that if it's in volume, it makes it worth it doing it. And I can offer it to other clients. I ask: is it something that could then become a standard program? And then I could go out and sell that. So strategically, I'm looking at that would be one of that would be a great topic that you could come with in a business planning retreat. Like, here's how I'm getting myself in trouble. Here's where I'm finding a time suck, even though I love how that time is going by. It's not a profitable use of my time. So then how can I get rested and rejuvenated in a day away while I'm simultaneously working on the strategy of my business, the direction of my business, the most profitable decisions. And it's just like any tough decision in your life. If you make these decisions in advance before the situation comes up. you can handle it in a way that you're proud of. And it's easier for you to make the decision you need to make. Because I'll tell you, like relationship wise, and in a great conversation with a prospect, I've been swept up in the moment where I'm like, yes, this sounds great. And then I make them feel like I'm totally going to do that customization thing. But if I had decided in advance, here's what customization means to us. and be able to explain it. Because I already came up with that strategically in my business planning retreat day. It feels great. I know how to present it to them so that it feels great to them. I know how to present it to me so it feels great to me. And I didn't get swept up in the moment and get excited and then promise something that takes my business off course for a whole quarter or two, which could really tank your revenue for the year. Brea: Totally. Lisa: Because something sounded fun. And look, if we have our own businesses and coaching and training, for most of us, all this stuff is fun. It's just what is the most fun? And or of the fun things, what are the most profitable decisions? And if they're not fun or profitable for you, you know, we have dozens of amazing coaches we can refer it out to because we're all so different in what we want to do. And we could pass that work along to one of our colleagues. And then that kind of good vibe comes back to us, but it feels so good to be solid in your decisions because you took a business planning day to really be working on your business and what you want out of it. Big picture. Brea: Totally. Yes. I wish that people could see, like, I'm just nodding up and down because, you know, Brea from seven years ago, you know, I wish I had known these things then, you know, I wish I had seen how, how much of a difference it makes and what that looks like. Because otherwise it's not only confusing for you as the entrepreneur, but it's confusing for your client. No, if someone comes to you and says, Hey, what, what's it like to work with you, Brea? And I say, well, I can do whatever you want. What do you need? They might say, who is this girl? No one can do everything. Like, you know, she's just hungry for a sale. Or they say, well, I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. What does it look like to work with you? Lisa: I want you to consult me. Oh, I have an example of my very favorite outcome from a business planning retreat. I decided to work on my business and get really focused and make some scary choices. Because I think what we're talking about here is making scary choices...
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Bonus Episode: Announcing Season 10 for Coaches
02/09/2025
Bonus Episode: Announcing Season 10 for Coaches
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Goal Setting with Your Strengths
02/02/2025
Goal Setting with Your Strengths
Goal setting. Does setting and getting goals light you up and get you groovin? Or maybe you’re not a big fan. Either way, this episode focuses on how to set yourself up for success – by using your Strengths, of course! We believe that when you approach goal setting through the lens of your individual talents, it not only makes the process more enjoyable but also opens up a whole new realm of possibilities that you might not have considered before. Tune in for personal anecdotes and insights about how leveraging your strengths can transform your goals from mundane tasks into inspiring challenges. We discuss the importance of having a solid action plan and the value of check-ins to keep you on track. Plus, we emphasize that even if a goal feels outside your natural strengths, you can still use your unique talents to achieve it. So, whether you're looking to set a Big Hairy Audacious Goal or just want to make your bed every day (no judgment here!), this episode is packed with tips and strategies to help you set it and get it! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways ● Strengths-based goals set you up for success: Setting goals through the lens of your unique strengths can lead to more meaningful and attainable objectives. By focusing on what energizes and excites you, you can create goals that feel natural and motivating. ● Think beyond SMART Goals: While SMART goals are a great starting point, it's essential to think outside the box. Incorporating your strengths into the goal-setting process can help you identify opportunities and areas for growth that traditional methods might overlook. ● Strength doesn’t happen by accident. Strength, or as Gallup defines it, “consistent, near-perfect performance” doesn’t happen by accident. To achieve the best outcome,use your talents to bring intention and clear direction to your goals. Take Action ● Explore Your Strengths: Take time to identify your unique strengths and consider how they can inform your goal-setting process. Reflect on what comes naturally to you and what you enjoy. ● Create an Action Plan: Simply setting a goal isn't enough; you need a step-by-step action plan to achieve it. Without a clear strategy, it's easy to lose focus and get sidetracked. Consider using tools (like sticky notes or vision boards) that align with your strengths to keep you organized and motivated. ● Set Goals for Talent Development: Consider setting goals that focus on developing your talents further. This can lead to new opportunities and enhance your overall performance. ● Use Accountability: Find an accountability partner or coach to help you stay focused on your goals. Regular check-ins can help you assess your progress and make necessary adjustments. If you're ready to use your Strengths to set and get your goals, this episode is for you! 🎧 Listen in and let us know your thoughts! Got some hot tips of your own on strength-based goal setting? Share in the comments below! ✨ #Podcast #Productivity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment #Planning #TimeBlock #Goals #WorkLifeBalance #WorkLifeBlend #Talent #Strengths Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is all about goal setting. Brea: Oh my gosh, we came in with giggles because I was like stretching and groaning like an old person as I was getting ready for the record button to go. So funny. Lisa: It would be great if one of those kind of noises, I guess, included, you know? Yes, I love letting them in. And my back cracking as I'm like crouching in my chair. We'll have to overdub some back cracks. Oh my gosh. Lisa: Hi, everybody. Yeah. Hey, everyone. And a double hello to Ricardo. I want to give him a shout out. He has been a listener, oh my gosh, I don't know how long, for eight years, nine years. He's been a listener forever and has been giving feedback over the years and has just been a great, great listener and strengths peer. So shout out to Ricardo for suggesting the topic of goal setting. Brea: Okay, love that. Thank you, Ricardo. Lisa: Yes. And I think, Brea, you tell me what you think here. I'm going to say you have to give an obligatory nod to SMART goals because it's the standard everyone talks about. So if you're a listener and you've never heard of SMART goals, it stands for, it's an acronym, it stands for Specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, and time-bound. And yes, those are great standards to make sure your goals are concrete and ready to go and in a form that feels gettable. And with that, I would like to quickly move right off of SMART goals so that we can give you some insights and things to think about that are different from every other goal setting podcast or article you've ever read. What do you think, Brea? Brea: Yeah, you know, we're talking about strengths. We're talking about goals through a lens of strengths. So already it's different because, as everyone on this podcast knows, your strengths are as unique to you as Well, there is nothing more unique. They are 100% unique to you, the blend of your talents. So already, just if you are leaning into your strengths when you are approaching goals, it's already going to be unique to you. So let's dive in. Lisa: Yes. You know, as you said that what pinged for me was When I'm deciding on my goals, what comes to my mind first is traditional goal setting stuff like, okay, let's think of the workplace and what are some metrics I want to move for the year? What are my revenue goals? I start to think of things like that. And when I think of strengths and add that in, I add things that I never would have thought of otherwise. So for example, I lead through positivity, individualization, woo, I have these need for people kind of themes, and I've worked from home for over 15 years. What I've realized is if I don't have goals that relate to social things, I start to lose myself a little bit and I just don't realize it's that important for me to be around other humans physically because you can just be heads down in your work and forget. So I think that's an example personally of where goal setting with a lens of strengths, it could even tell me which ones to set that I might overlook entirely that'll be really valuable to me as a human. How about for you? Brea: Yeah, totally. Using our strengths to set goals automatically broadens the scope of where you can go and what you can achieve. And it's attainable because it's coming from a place of strength, right? So it feels like, oh, this is a surprise. I've never really thought about setting a goal like this. And at the same time, it feels so doable and so natural and exciting, hopefully, you know, to think about going for that. Lisa: Yeah, yeah. And they also give you. different approaches. If I think of mine, strategic's my number one. I love to get a list going of possibilities, and it's quick. But here are things I could focus on for the year. Here are things that might be important. And then I know that if I'm realistic, I can't do 40 top goals. That doesn't make any sense. So instead, I can use strategic to say, what's most important for me? What are my priorities? And boom, I'm picking these two and that's it. And if I need to pivot later, cool, I will. And it allows me to do that. I love that. And I think my maximizer number two, it really drives me to set a goal and a BHAG, you know, the Big Hairy Audacious Goal, so that I can challenge the standard and challenge my potential and get a little bit of fun out of having the goal and then having the Big Hairy Goal. Brea: Yeah. I love that. Lisa: What do you think? Brea: Yeah. I, I just, I'm thinking about, well, I'm thinking about why, why is setting goals so important and also why do so many people not do it? And also for those of us that do do it, like, why is it so hard? to finish. And I wonder if part of that is just because we are setting the wrong goals. Like you said, if we think about this through the lens of our strengths, we're able to set goals that can help set us up for success versus, you know, younger Brea would set goals to make my bed every day. And, I just am not an everyday bedmaker and I've wasted so much time going after that goal, but it's just not a goal that's worth my effort. So I think this idea of setting goals through the lens of your strengths is so important because it helps you choose the right goals. And then the big hairy audacious, um, what's the G in beehive? Oh, Oh my gosh, I crack myself up. Okay, as soon as I said it, it was like right there. Lisa: It's like pin number, personal identification. What's the N? Oh my gosh. It's a pin number. It's a BHAG goal. I think it's the same situation. So you're off the hook. Brea: Yeah, that's so funny. So the BHA goal is, I forgot what I was saying. I don't even remember. Lisa: I've got to jump on the insight then while your brain can bring it back to you. I think what you said, it felt like a metaphor that happens in the workplace all the time. So at year end, especially, but it happens at all different times of the year when people have to do their individual development plan for the year. And it's required that they set goals. Of course, sometimes you have assigned goals where it's like, here's your goal. Go figure out how to meet it. And you can do that through strengths really well as well. But there's this opening on these IDPs, the individual development plans, for so many people because you're supposed to come up with a few of your own development goals. And what do people do? They come up with goals that they think someone else wants to see. And what I just heard you saying, it reminded me of this same situation. Maybe they're making Make your bed goals. They've tried it and it was a meh goal. Well, those aren't fun to achieve. Those don't motivate you and pull out your potential. And if you use your strengths as a filter, they're going to be fun, or at least more fun. They're going to inspire something in you. There's going to be a spark. And if you set your goals the way you think someone else believes you should, well, of course, they might not be that motivating for you. They might not sound that exciting. So I think strengths as a lens of goal settings, oh, it's so smart because all that stuff we talk about with the ease, ease, energy, enjoyment, excellence. If you set your goals aligned with strengths, it's going to bring all of those things out in you. Brea: Totally. Yeah, I 100% agree. I've been that person. I think most, if not all, of our listeners have been there, so totally that resonates. Yeah, the BHAG doesn't seem so big, hairy, and audacious if it's aligned with your strengths. Because what feels big to us or hairy to us or audacious to us are often the goals that are not in alignment with our strengths, right? Because like you just said, if we're setting goals that are in alignment with our strengths, then it feels easy. It feels energizing. It feels like excellence is attainable, right? We're excited for it. We enjoy it. That does not feel like big hairy audacious, right? Lisa: I think, okay, so big, yes. Audacious, yes. Hairy, maybe not. But I would think like be careful with what kind of audacious, what kind of big, what kind of hairy. What a funny conversation. But I would say, okay, let's do an example. If I say, I want to double my number of members in Tools for Coaches. That sounds possible. But I could set an audacious goal to triple it. And is it possible? Yeah, I think it's possible. And I like the stretch in the brain on something that sounds really exciting for me, something that is strengths aligned if I allow it to be. and I do it in a way that is of service to the members and in alignment with my strengths at the same time, then the audacious part of it feels amazing. So instead of audacious being outlandish, it would be audacious because it's like, ooh, this is just a little possibility that I'm seeding in my mind so that I can start marinating on how I could actually pull that off. Brea: Yeah, and I think when we use our strengths, we can do that, right? The big hairy audacious becomes possible. Lisa: What about accomplishing goals? Let's say it's a goal. Now it's set. You've done your SMART goals, you've picked a BHAG or a stretch or whatever version of it, and you've done it. with your strengths in mind. It feels aligned with you, with you as a person. So your goals are set. Brea: And now you got to go get them. Lisa: You got to go get it. Brea's got the ultimate rhyme. Set it and get it. So now we're on the get it phase. How do you use your strengths? What does that even look like if you're using your strengths to accomplish what's already set? Brea: Yeah. So we've talked about how setting the right goal is setting yourself up for success. But then you got to go get it. And you can't just like set the goal and say, okay, cool, and then have no plan. And I think that's the second place that people fall down is that they don't have a step-by-step action plan of how they're actually going to get there. So it's kind of like Babe Ruth steps up to the plate and he points to where he's going to just crush this Homer But if I did that, the ball would not go where my finger is pointing, you know what I mean? Like, I have no plan, I have no practice. That's where I think a lot of us fail in our goal getting is there's no strategy, there's no plan, there's no step-by-step. So gotta give yourself some direction. Lisa: Direction, intention, you know, which you also brought out for me is the difference that in the same thing, let's say the same, goal, I'm going to use this in quotes, because you might not do goal setting. If you were Babe Ruth, you're not like I am goal setting to hit the ball over there in that moment. But if it were you, you would have to because of all the things that would have to come to lead up to it. So the relative part of this is cool because we're one person's task is another person's goal. Thinking back to some recent coaching conversations - I had one recently where person manages her goals and tasks with sticky notes really masterfully. And I think that's kind of neat to see. Yeah. And if you imagine adaptability, arranger, those kind of things, or someone has all the stuff and Achiever was on board. All the things that you have to accomplish, they can get scratched off and thrown out. They can get pushed over to another category on the side. Goals can be stacked. If there's a project involved, the next action is the one that's on top. I was getting the whole visual of this thinking, this sounds so beautiful and strength aligned. And the next person who leads through futuristic and strategic and positivity, maybe they love vision boards to get them started, and then they turn that into concrete action. And maybe the next person who leads through competition and analytical, they're all about the metrics and understanding where they came from last year, where they're headed to this year, what the industry standard is, how they're going to nail it, how they need to break it down by month. And all those different examples, those are really different paths to possibly hitting the same exact goal. It's using your strengths to find the approach that is fun to you because your strengths are aligned. Brea: Yeah, that's so good. Yeah. I think something you're bringing up is, um, guardrails or just like check-ins, you know, depending on the goal, depending on the length of the project or, you know, the timeline that you have, you might need to have little milestone goals, right? You might need to put in some check-ins to say, let's look at the data. How are we doing? Are we making progress? Because that's the worst is if you set a goal and you start running after it, and then. you know, squirrel and you get distracted, something comes up and all of a sudden you're off on another tangent. So if you can't be that person for yourself, if you can't set those, those boundaries or those guardrails for yourself, then maybe it's finding an accountability coach, or maybe it's taking advantage of weekly check-ins with your manager or whatever it might be. Lisa: Yeah, I like that. How do I know what else needs to happen to keep me on target or to check in? Whether, like you said, whether that's accountability partners or using, for example, using some relationship themes to reach out to people who have been in that industry longer than you so that you could get some data points outside of the ones you know, but you could do that through relationships. You could sit back and do some reflection and thinking or research with your thinking themes. Just go through the domains. I just went through two of them, but you can go through and think about different ways to approach it based on the domains you're dominant in. Brea: Yeah, this is so important. If you're given a goal, okay, bring your strengths. How can I use my talents to accomplish the goal that has been set before me? Even if it's not, let's say, most naturally aligned. Maybe it's an execution goal and executing is your lowest domain. Okay, that's fine. You can still get there using your strengths. We can also set goals to actually develop your talent. What a great use of time, energy, resources. You know, the definition that Gallup gives us for strength is consistent, near-perfect performance. That does not happen by accident, okay? So you need to be intentional. So let's set some goals to develop our talent and build strength, create new strengths, and go out there and just crush life, you know? Lisa: Yes, I'm loving what you just brought up. And it made me think of this example of a person in a workshop a couple of years ago. She led through connectedness. She told me she had been squashing it down at work and that that was more of her personal strength with friends, family, social, etc. But she kind of put it in a drawer for work because she had the sense that it wasn't hard driving and logical enough. and didn't think it was useful at work. So she set a goal, to your point, to develop connectedness and see what it looks like at work. And pretty soon she's realizing, oh, this is how I build rapport. Oh, my kindness takes the edge off when I really need to push hard. Oh, connectedness, it helps me see downstream effects that others don't see. It helps me see how our work is connected to the end user. She came up with 20 things that...
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Do You Nurture Your Nature?
01/19/2025
Do You Nurture Your Nature?
Did you know that frustration and burnout your talents can be ‘hangry’. In today's episode, we dive into the delightful concept of nurturing your nature! Life can be tough, and we all know that adulting isn't just a walk in the park. So, why not focus on what makes you shine? We discuss the importance of not just using your strengths, but actively nurturing and developing them to unlock their full potential. You’ll hear us chat about the nuances of nurturing your talents, the idea of nourishing them like a well-cooked meal, and how to create opportunities for your strengths to thrive. We even share some personal reflections on our own talents and how we are intentional about feeding them. So, if you’ve ever felt like your talents are a bit hangry or underutilized, this episode is for you! Join us as we encourage you to take a moment to reflect on how you can start nurturing your nature today. 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Nurturing vs. Using Your Strengths: It's not enough to simply use your natural talents; actively nurturing and developing them is what leads to a life of strength! This means investing time and energy into growing your talent, rather than just filling gaps or addressing weaknesses. Embrace the Journey: Nurturing your nature is an ongoing process. Just as you would monitor your health or the needs of a plant, it’s important to stay engaged with your strengths and be open to adjusting your approach as needed to ensure they continue to flourish. Take Action ● Schedule frequent talent ‘check ups’: Just like our bodies need specific nutrients to thrive, our talents require attention and care. Regularly reflect on your top talents and assess which ones may be undernourished. This self-audit can help you identify areas where you can focus your energy to foster growth and satisfaction. ● Create opportunities for your Strengths to shine!: If you find that your strengths aren't being utilized in your current environment, take the initiative to create opportunities for them to shine. Whether at work or in personal projects, seek out or design situations where your talents can be fully expressed. ● Consider a VIP Day: If you're looking for guidance as you work to nurture your nature, consider booking a VIP day with Lisa or Brea. ○ Book with Brea: ○ Book with Lisa: If you're ready to unlock the hidden potential in your talents, this episode is for you! 🎧 Listen in and let us know your thoughts! What does nurturing your nature look like in your life? Share in the comments below! ✨ #Podcast #Productivity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment #Planning #TimeBlock #SelfCare #TimeForYourself #WorkLifeBalance #WorkLifeBlend #Nurture #Nature #Talent #Strengths Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is all about nurturing your nature. Brea: How to nurture your nature or why to nurture your nature. I love it. Lisa: I love how your brain does this. It does it on a lot of topics. We'll talk about the topic and then you'll be like, but why? You know? So when you ask me the question, why should you nature… Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Should you nature your nurture? Let's nurture our nature, but I need to think on that. Is there an application for nurturing your nurture? Because I really like to nurture. Why should you nurture your nature? Instantly, I think about how adulting is hard. And really, I mean, stuff is hard. Life isn't just joy, joy, joy, joy all the time. So why not do things that for you are efficient and fun and can make life feel better. And if you're really taking your nature, and then you're leveraging it for all that it can be, then you're going to feel more efficient in your life. You're going to have more fun. It's going to be more exciting. It's not going to feel so laborious and difficult. I mean, we already have enough difficulties that will come our way anyway. So when you direct your attention for where your development is going, why not do it in these areas where you can really, really shine? That's what comes to mind for me. Brea: Life is hard enough. Yes, life is hard enough. We don't need to make it more hard. So yes, I totally agree 100%. And I feel like a lot of people listening right now are nodding their head in agreement, right? Like we all get that. I do think that there's a different nuance to the conversation because we love nuance here on the Lead Through Strengths podcast. There's a different nuance to the conversation where leveraging your talent or your nature is one thing, right? Leaning into it aligning with it. Those those are all Kind of versions of that using it, right? But the idea of nurturing it Developing it. I Feel like there's a lot of us out there who aren't really exploring the full potential of what that means to nurture Our nature, you know to grow it. How do we do that? How do we do that as coaches? How do we help our our coachees to nurture their talent, to grow the good, not just to use it as it is, you know what I mean? But to nurture it, to grow it, to invest in it, right? Like that's- That's a cool distinction. Yeah, yeah. Lisa: So I am totally getting where you're coming from. And the word that popped into my mind while you were describing it, because it almost felt like it with your words and the way you said them, was the word nourish. It's kind of like, If you were nourishing them, what would you be doing for them? If you were paying attention to making them better and better or have more things they could be directed toward or apply them in new situations and try them on in new ways and experiment with it and play with it, like all of those things could be ways that are nurturing it. Brea: Yes. We have to feed our talents because if we don't, then they get hangry. And we don't like talents when they're angry. That looks like bad behavior. That looks like not emotionally regulated. That just doesn't look good. It does not look like strength. It looks like weakness, right? So the idea of nourishing is so good. Lisa: So I definitely am a person who thinks you grow through practice, but you could practice the same terrible form over and over throwing a ball and just become stronger at your poor form. Brea: I love that because clarity comes from action. I a hundred percent believe that a hundred percent. You got to move in order to get some clarity. Here's the thing, though, when it comes to nurturing, Traditionally, outside of the strengths movement, we have learned to reflect on our practice, to take a look at how we did and invest in the places where we were falling short. This is the difference. I think we still kind of default to looking to where we fell short and, you know, how do we use our talents to like fill the gaps? But what about this idea of looking at what we did well, looking at where we're excelling even and nurturing that, growing that? Is it true that if we do that, that our great will get even greater and it will be strong enough that the weakness doesn't even matter? In some cases, right? Is it true? Is what we believe really true? Lisa: Yeah, so in addition to what you're talking about where we get focused on filling gaps and fixing weaknesses and trying to figure out how to do what we can't do yet, I also think there's this piece of nurturing your nature where you have to remember what makes you come alive and you have to remember where your greatest contributions are because if you will, You'll remember how to bring that excitement to your life. You'll remember what it feels like when you're contributing in the world. And you're like, oh, I need to get in that environment more often. Brea: So this is so good because it it brings us back to let's start at the very beginning. The idea of how do we nurture? How do we do that? Right. Well, I think it's looking for opportunities to use your talents and or creating those opportunities if they don't currently exist in your work from home environment, then you have to create those opportunities. If you're in an office setting, maybe it's being aware of the opportunities where your talents can shine and really thrive and raising your hand for those, you know? So whether it's taking advantage of them when the opportunities come or, you know, creating those opportunities for yourself, I think that is a very foundational way of making sure that your talents get nurtured. Lisa: Yeah, 100%. I love the word nurture. I love the metaphor we've been using with nourishing because it really is like that. Yes, you can go consume the fast food version of doing these things where you kind of get a drive-by experience of using them. But you could also do a slow cooker soup that you really worked on and you thought about carefully. And when you eat it, you're like, whoa, there's depth here. Like if you ever ate an amazing soup where you can just tell. this thing has been cooking for 36 hours with 20 amazing ingredients. Like that is what that taste experience is akin to what somebody is receiving on the interactions with you. They're like, whoa, when they say that person is so genuine or wow, like I really like that person. They it's because you're showing your strengths so genuinely and you just seem so on. That's what it's like. I love that kind of fed, nourished vibe because it really shows the richness that you demonstrate as a human. Brea: I love that, too. And now you're actually reminding me, Lisa, when we went to Four by Brother Luck. I had a soup and it was maybe the most delicious soup that I've ever had. So that's just a fun little memory that you're bringing up. Lisa: I think I know the one. Was it their duck chili? Brea: No, it was a butternut squash something something. It was delicious. Yeah. But here's, this is actually going to your naturing the nurture. Okay, I think it's possible. You're gonna make it work. Well, I, to me, they they're hand in hand. If we look to the nature and we say, look, I know I want to nurture my nature. So I'm going to feed my nature, right? I'm going to nurture it. I'm going to feed it. I'm going to nourish it. Okay. So how do we nature the nurture? Well, we have to look to the nature and say, well, what do I need? What, not just what food, like, okay, well, I need food. I need water. Okay. Yeah. So all of us do, but what do I need? So have you ever gone to the doctor and done a little allergy test or a blood panel that says, you know, hi, you're, you're vitamin D deficient, you know, or you're deficient in this or whatever. Like every body needs the same vitamins, nutrients, everything, but some are deficient in areas that others aren't. Right. And so if I'm going to, if I'm going to truly nourish my body, I need to know specifically what it needs. How much protein should I be eating every day? Well, that depends on how much muscle mass you have, or maybe hormone levels, or exercise, or all the things matter. So if we're truly going to nourish, and this is along the lines of self-care too. We talk about how it's important to take time for yourself. It's important to nourish. yourself and care for yourself, we have to know what we need in order to do that. And it's not just as simple as saying, well, we need food, we need water, we need to sleep, we need air. It's very specific to the person. Lisa: I like your metaphor. I can also really relate to it. Having been a person who nerds out on my micronutrients every six months and seeing how individual vitamins, minerals, etc. are on or off. And then I pay attention to them and give them extra care for a while. The same would go for the talanthemes. And you have to keep checking in. It's not like a static thing. Well, I gave it some gave it some nurture time. It's set for life. It's very much like those nutrients in the body. So I think that's a great metaphor because you do have to keep checking in and it depends on what you've been focused on, how you've been living, who you've been around, what kind of contributions you've been making, all sorts of factors. So it is an ongoing check-in. Brea: Yeah. It reminds me of caring for plants. Now, this is not one of my strengths. I do not do a good job of caring for them. And I think it's because I don't understand what they need. So I'm like, Oh, I'll just put it by the window and I'll get some water. And I, I think it's you know, good to go, but then, nope, it's not good to go. But in that situation, I would say, okay, well, maybe I'll, I'll move it over to this side, or maybe, oh, it's right by a vent. So it's just getting blasted with AC during the summer. Maybe it needs to be in a warmer place. So I move it to a different location and you move it around. And if you're patient, if you love it enough, if it matters, then you're going to figure it out, right? You're going to figure out. and maybe you have a cool little app on your phone to help you figure it out, but some way you figure out what it needs, right? You understand how much to water, when to water, how much sun, shade, all of the things, and then it can start living its best life. If we do that for plants, then why don't we do that for ourselves? Lisa: Right? And the CliftonStrengths report And many tools, coaching and other things, but the CliftonStrengths Report makes it pretty easy. It's like your app for the plant. And it gives you the chance to say, Oh, okay, I'm feeling drained. I'm feeling a little soul sucked right now. I'm feeling whatever negative emotion. If you look to your report, it can often, with a little bit of the nourishment of your talents, it can bring you out of the yellow leaves. So it's another just great reason you've got to nourish it. And everyone looks a little bit different. And you have to pay attention to your own. Great point that I mean, come on, if you're going to give your houseplant more attention than you give yourself. Yeah. Brea: Got to get your back here. You're more important for real, though. Like how many of us do that? I know I'm sometimes guilty of that. maybe not with plants, but maybe with other things that are not worth as much as I'm worth. I'm giving time and attention to other things or other people or other situations or whatever, and I'm not doing the work for myself. And so I think it's a real gut check to say, are you nurturing your nature? It's not a pleasantry or a platitude or a cheeky phrase. I really invite anyone listening to ask yourself, am I nurturing my nature? And if so, how, and how can I do more of it? And if not, what's one way that you can start right now? You know, today, what's one thing that you can do to appreciate your nature and to just give it a little bit of love? Lisa: Yeah. And I think there's an audit that could be cool as well. You know, I always go practical and I'm like, okay, let's apply this to something really going on in life. So I just did a quick run through of my top talents and I'm thinking through strategic, maximizer, positivity, individualization, woo, focus, futuristic, learner. And the one that pops out for me when I ask this question, am I nurturing? The one that I'm not sure I'm deliberately nurturing is strategic. Now it shows up in a lot of things. It shows up in my thinking. It shows up when I get to make a quick decision. But a lot of times I'm not making quick decisions. I do like to zoom out. I do like to prioritize. So there are a lot of things I could say I like to do this. But am I deliberately doing it and really pouring into it as something I could develop and make me a better human with? Ooh, that's the one that stands out to me that could use some directed attention. So I'm thinking, ooh, this little process, this question is an easy one. You could just glance down at the list and say, well, which one's in a micronutrient deficiency? Which one's sad right now? Which one's just not used that much right now deliberately? It is used in small doses throughout the day, but am I really giving it nourishment? Am I really developing it? Am I really working it? Am I really having fun with it? Am I really directing it? That one stands out for me. Do any stand out for you? Brea: Well, what immediately stands out is, you talk about that a lot on this podcast. The strategic wanting white space, you know, wanting an opportunity to be more intentional. So I guess I'll just reflect that back to you because… Lisa: It's hungry. Brea: It's getting hangry. Lisa: Yeah. It's hungry. It's hungry. Brea: Yeah. Well, for me, this is part of my nightly examine is intentionally looking at my talents and saying, which ones do they feed today? Which ones are going to bed hungry? My strategic, it also shows up every day, but it's like, I don't know, strategic is like real hungry. It's like a teenage boy, you know, like just a ravenous appetite all the time. It's like, like you can never feed it enough. And so it gets me into trouble sometimes because it's hangry a lot. Does that make sense? It's more needy than the others. And so if, if my strategic stays in my head, I can think and think and think and think and think about, we could do this. We could do that. It could look like this. It could look like that. Well, we can't move, you know, this way because I don't have this piece of information. And if I still need that piece of information, then I don't really know you know, how it's going to go. So I can't like make a decision yet because it could go the wrong way and I can just lose my mind, you know? So the best way that I need to be intentional about feeding my strategic is actually like moving forward. I don't know if that's just me. You tell me because you actually have strategic number one listeners with strategic. How does this show up for you? Is strategic always on the move? I mean, it's a strategic thinking theme. but I feel like it thinks on its feet. You know, it really like at its best, it's as you're moving and grooving, it's like, we can pivot this way. You know, we can pivot that way versus standing stationary and thinking through all the options. For me, I need to move, you know. Lisa: Yeah, I think always being on the move is true for mine as well. That seems like part of the nature of strategic. My strategic, I think, is what makes me decisive though. And I think when you mix it with Maximizer, it becomes an efficiency theme. So it might take on a little different flavor. But what, back to your strategic, if you were to think about a night, because you do this awesome nightly, tell us what you call your nightly practice again. Brea: It's an examen. Lisa: You're nightly examine when you're doing this. Tell us a night when this hungry teenage boy felt satiated. What was a day when...
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Taking Time for Yourself
12/29/2024
Taking Time for Yourself
Maybe you're a planner like Lisa, whose calendar resembles a game of ‘time Tetris’, more spontaneous like Brea, who’s a little more free-flowing, or somewhere in between. No matter how you do it, taking time to prioritize your well-being is essential. In this episode, you’ll hear us discuss the importance of setting boundaries and making intentional choices about how you spend your time. We share our personal experiences and strategies, from booking vacations and massages to creating those precious moments of spontaneity that can truly rejuvenate your spirit. We even touch on our VIP day offerings, where you can take a deep dive into your goals and aspirations with us as your guides. So, if you’ve been feeling the weight of life’s demands, this episode is your reminder to take a step back, breathe, and invest in yourself. So, grab your planner (or just your favorite cozy blanket) and get ready to discover how to make time for YOU! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Define What "Time for Yourself" Means to YouTaking time for yourself can look different for everyone. For some, it might mean a luxurious vacation with no responsibilities. For others, it could be as simple as blocking out a few moments in your day for reflection or relaxation. We discuss how it's essential to identify what self-care means to you personally, so you can prioritize it in your life. The Power of “Planning to Be Spontaneous”Brea emphasizes the importance of leaving open blocks of time to allow for unexpected moments of joy and creativity. This balance can help you recharge and stay present, making it easier to embrace life's surprises. Invest in YourselfWe can't pour from an empty cup. Taking time for yourself is not just a luxury; it's a necessity. We discuss practical strategies for blocking out time for self-care, whether it's scheduling PTO, planning massages, or setting aside time for reflection. Remember, investing in yourself is one of the best decisions you can make for your well-being and productivity. Take Action ● Block Out Time for Yourself: Schedule your personal time in advance, whether it's for vacations, self-care activities like massages, or simply time to relax. Make sure to earmark these activities in your calendar to prevent overbooking. ● Plan for Spontaneity: Create blocks of time in your schedule that are left open for spontaneous activities. This could be as simple as a few hours with no plans, allowing you to engage in whatever feels right in the moment. ● Reflect and Review: Set aside time for a year-end reflection or quarterly reviews. Use this time to assess your goals, accomplishments, and areas for improvement, ensuring that you are intentional about how you want to spend your time moving forward. ● Establish Boundaries: Learn to set and maintain boundaries around your time. This includes saying no to commitments that do not serve your well-being and protecting the time you have allocated for yourself. ● Consider a VIP Day: If you're looking for guidance in taking time for yourself, consider booking a VIP day. This can provide you with structured time to reflect, strategize, and plan for your personal and professional goals. ○ Book with Brea: ○ Book with Lisa: If you're feeling overwhelmed or just need a reminder to prioritize yourself, this episode is for you! 🎧 Listen in and let us know your thoughts! What does taking time for yourself look like in your life? Share in the comments below! ✨ Additional Resources ● – Brea’s favorite planning system. ✅ If you’re looking for a simple and effective way to time block your day, so you can streamline your focus and maximize your free time, check this out! #Podcast #Productivity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment #Planning #TimeBlock #SelfCare #TimeForYourself #WorkLifeBalance #WorkLifeBlend Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is about taking time out for yourself. Brea: So this is a timely topic because you have just taken time for yourself, a luxurious amount of time in a really yummy place. And I am feeling the need to take time for myself. So we're coming, you know, from opposite ends of the spectrum. And I think that hopefully that makes for a juicy conversation. Lisa: I feel like we should define it Brea style. You know, you're always like, let's back up. What is it like? What does this mean? What's it about to take time off? What does it mean to you? Brea: Yeah, taking time out for yourself can mean, an all-expenses-paid resort wherever your heart fancies for an extended amount of time with no responsibilities, turn off your cell phone, like to one extreme. I feel like it also, most of the time for most of us, looks like smaller moments, you know, throughout the day and throughout the week and throughout the month and throughout the year. And that's what I'd love to talk about as well as, you know, the big things, but just the little things. How can we, how can we take time for ourselves? Lisa: Yes. I love it. And for me, it's the same along with I don't have a lot of talents that are in the moment and spontaneous. And if I don't plan these things, they do not happen. So I'm very much a planner. So for me, taking time out for yourself is about relaxing. It's about time to marinate, reflect. luxurious amounts of time. I don't feel that feeling very often. It's usually like I have booked myself from the moment I wake up until 8pm in time blocks and I am like boom boom and you know how I am. You do Brea and probably many listeners know now that if I have a five minute sliver of time I have something else I throw in there. It's very packed when I'm in a workday. Okay. You might be better at this than I am. Like if I scored myself on a scale of one to 10 on how I am at taking time out for myself, I would give myself a six. I feel like you're better at this. How do you score yourself? Brea: Well, maybe we need to go back to the definitions. Yeah, I mean, 10, 12, 20, I feel like I am overly kind to myself in time. And that works for me, but I know that I could do more. I could accomplish more. I just choose not to because I don't like that feeling of being stressed. It's stressful for me to have a lot of time pressures. For other people, that's the thrill. That's the thriving. That's the best life. It's just not for me. I've learned that over the years and it's been a really hard lesson for me to learn or just something for me to accept about myself because I grew up, maybe like a lot of us, just feeling like we have to be productive all the time. And I just don't enjoy it. So I do take time for myself, but I call it planning to be spontaneous, you know, like putting time in my schedule to just kind of ebb and flow and, you know, live into the adaptability parts of me. So. Lisa: Well, that phrase you just used, planning to be spontaneous, well, it resonates with me a lot. I would love to talk strategies, what you block out. I know I have four really clear things that I block out. Yeah, tell us. Okay, okay. Number one, block out PTO for the year. So if you're an employee, like when I was an employee, I blocked my PTO. I might be wrong and I might change vacation days, but I will earmark them essentially because I can always shift things in the calendar. Like if I need to move things by two weeks, it's fine because there's a chunk of time allocated to it. So, I block that for the year. Just do it. Yeah. Brea: Buy the tickets. You gotta go. Lisa: Yes. And even if I don't buy the tickets, just have the four days, seven days, however many days that's going to be, they're earmarked so that I don't book over it. Booking PTO for the year is big. Another one is I book massages or self-care things, like whatever that thing is for you. Massage is my favorite self-care thing to go do. I block those out even if I don't have them booked I block either Mondays and Fridays because I attempt to not work on Mondays and Fridays and I will Put those in and then if it doesn't happen for some reason fine but I'll I'll block those because otherwise I'll just book right on top of them and We'll never get them done And then third thing is I time block my workouts and even my walks. Like if I just have a leisurely stroll where you hear me audio chatting with you with my gravel crunching in the background, those and my workouts are inside of those time blocks. When I have my calendar rolling from usually about eight to eight, I have every minute pre-planned what is going to happen in that minute. Doesn't always work out. But yeah, that that works for me. And I would say for someone else, they might need an accountability partner to make it happen. But I think the time blocking time for yourself to honor your body, and the one that I'm working on right now is blocking out more time for the time that food requires, like the actual eating whole food and what it requires for cooking and cleanup is something that I haven't allocated very well in my time blocks and I'm seeing it's one of my failure points. So coming into the next year when I'm reviewing how I've done, I see that's an area where I'm not doing as great. And then the fourth and final one for me is I plan a year-end reflection at least one day at the end of every year. Sometimes I do these quarterly, but I just really like them as a year-end. I usually do a year-end training day where I just give myself the opportunity to learn about whatever. And then there's one day that's like strategy, look back, reviewing all the metrics and like basically it's what do I keep of this? How did I do? And what do I change? And then what do I want this next year to be? How do I want to show up? What are the goals? It's just that whole day of reflection and thoughtful strategic stuff so that every day isn't defaulting to what is currently urgent. It's kind of like the urgent importance scale, making sure there's time blocked out for what is important and then fill in around it. So it sounds like I have all kinds of leisure time, but also people who know me would also say I've been talking about getting more white space and marination space and open brain space for years. So it's something, this is why I give myself a six. I'm pretty good at blocking the time out. And then I'm also pretty good at overbooking myself in the time blocks I have left over. Yeah, that's real. So that's my recap. Yeah, what's your recap? Brea: Well, that sounds exhausting. I'm like, I need a nap just listening to that. Lisa: This is like a great example of strength because I'm like, this sounds so cool. When I look at those time blocks, I get so excited because there are big chunks just blocked off that can't be scheduled. I get excited. Brea: So funny. So planning to be spontaneous in my world is not that. Planning to be spontaneous is putting, it's putting two hours or three hours or 30 minutes or whatever onto the calendar with nothing planned. So you're planning to be spontaneous, right? So maybe, so for me, if I do have a really full day that's just packed, I have to have those blocks of like nothing time because because I've learned over the years that things come up, you know? If my schedule's blocked too tightly, then I can't receive those. And it means so much to me. It gives me a lot of joy and it brings me a lot of energy and really fuels me to be able to say, yes, let's talk. You know, I have some time this afternoon. Or maybe I just need a nap or maybe I just need to rest, you know, or maybe I just want to go outside and like, you know, kick off my shoes and put my feet in the grass and let the sun on my face and just have that time for myself, you know. So, yeah, it is interesting how our talents are so different, you know, like taking time for yourself can mean a million different things depending on where you find your fuel. Lisa: I think yours might be a wiser, more mature version of what I'm saying, because I'm listening to you going, I need to do this, this sounds so good. Because if I got the call like, oh, sick dog, throw out the whole afternoon, I would be like, Okay, and I would do it and then there would be an aftermath. There would be no blocks of spontaneity in there that could be grabbed. So I like that as a day. Do you do that every day? Brea: Well, yes and no. I don't plan my schedule as tightly as you do just to start off with. I don't have my full day blocked minute for minute, so there's already just breathing room. Again, this is something that I've learned for myself over the past Specifically, past like seven years, eight years, as I've been a solopreneur doing a lot of this type of work, I used to do like eight to 10 hour-long Zoom meetings, coaching calls back-to-back all day. And that was awful. I've learned that maybe I should put a little bit of buffer space in between or not do so many in a day. It felt really efficient at the time. It was like, I'm just going to knock them out all, bring similar tasks together. I'm going to do all my Zoom computer video stuff so that Cause that's always hard, you know, is like trying to figure out, okay, I got to get home to be on the video, you know, versus taking a phone call versus meeting in person. So I thought it would be efficient, but then it just ends up draining you, you know, so draining a lot of times. Lisa: Cause there are coaches like Adrian Massey, as an example, fellow strengths coach, she loves doing seven, eight calls, boom, boom, boom, boom, back to back to back. coaching on video. I can't imagine that. I think I would be sucked of energy and I need that buffer in between. But she loves that and it's energizing. Brea: So, yes. Gosh, Adrienne, I'd love to hear more about what energizes you about that. If you're listening, throw it into the comments or tell us more. But I think for me, it is energizing because that's eight different people or 10 different people that I get to talk to that day and that's so fun. What I learned doesn't work for me about that is follow-up, right? Any emails that I have to send after the conversation or whatever, the follow-up is, I had also blocked that time on a different day. I'm going to have my admin day and I'm going to do all the follow-up from yesterday. That is so draining for me. So instead, I just have done a little bit of time before the call to just kind of prep, a little bit of time after the call to send whatever follow-up, and then it's done. It's off the list, it's out of my head, and I can move on to the next thing and be really present with whatever I'm working on. Lisa: Next Yes, I think you're excellent. This might be a future episode just being present. I Take it like you're naturally good at this or I have in the past making it like you're naturally good at just being present and I I think you also do it very strategically on purpose because you like being in that state and you take time out for yourself to ensure that you can. So I really like your idea of handspontaneity and I would say like people who know me really well they would crack up if you heard me say planned. Yeah. They would be like planned. Yes. Spontaneous. No. No. But I do desire that. Like that's a thing that I think, oh, that's possible because that can be planned for. I just haven't done it. I haven't learned to do it right yet. So I'm learning from you. Yeah. In this episode. But maybe I'm good at the big picture thinking out for the year, but I'm not good at executing in the day to day. Yeah. Brea: Well, Gosh, I mean, I've done this since high school where, like you, I plan out my big rocks. I'm also a very big planner. I know it sounds like I'm just very spontaneous and adaptable, but adaptability is not a talent of mine. I just have had to learn over the years because I've moved so many times and my life has has required a lot of adaptability. So I've learned how to adapt and it is easier for me than it used to be, but it's not a place that I thrive. It's not something that I'm like seeking out. You know what I mean? I love to plan, but truly planning to be spontaneous is more than just adding buffer. I remember when I was in high school and college and I just didn't have the responsibilities that I have today, planning to be spontaneous, what that was was blocking off an entire afternoon. And when it got to that time, I was like, okay, what am I gonna do? And it was true spontaneity. It was, what do I feel like in the moment? who's around me, what am I feeling inspired to do? Let's truly be spontaneous. And sometimes that was just going on a little adventure. Maybe we went to go get ice cream or maybe we went on a walk or maybe we just said, you know what, let's go for a drive. We've got two hours, let's go see what we can find. It was truly spontaneous and there is a thrill about that. spot in 80 that I think creating that time for myself was just, yeah, just, it was good. It was good. Lisa: And something you want more of or something that is just different in adult life? Brea: I still do it. I don't lock it or plan it in the same way, but I mean, When I'm feeling stuck, when I'm feeling low energy, when I'm feeling like whatever, I'm present with myself enough to know I got to get out of this. I got to switch. I got to do something else. I got to be spontaneous. I'll just get in the car and I'll go for a drive or I'll go to the park or whatever. But again, I can do that because I've learned not to pack my schedule. Again, it's really been more of an unlearning. I used to live the Lisa lifestyle where everything was just go, go, go, really, really full. And part of that is exciting. You get a lot of dopamine. There's a lot of adrenaline. Part of that was and still is in my adult life. It can be exciting, but it's not sustainable for me. I've learned that. And so I've learned to unlearn some of those beliefs or those patterns of, I have to be this kind of person because this is how we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be super uber productive all the time. I've had to unlearn that a little bit and this is just what it looks like for me now. Lisa: Yes. Well, hats off for unlearning and for using that whole concept of taking time out for yourself as a way to have spontaneous moments, get spontaneity, be spontaneous. I mean, all of those things, there's been a lot of spontaneous in your theme. And I listen I listen to your examples thinking that sounds really nice. That sounds like something I should work on. So this is great given the theme for me being all about planning in advance so that the day-to-day can actually happen. So these moments can happen, but they're still planned. There...
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Will My CliftonStrengths Change?
12/15/2024
Will My CliftonStrengths Change?
People are always asking us, “Will my CliftonStrengths change?” and “Should I retake the assessment?” Since these questions are really two sides of the same coin, the short answer to both is the same: probably not. For the longer answer, be sure to listen in as we explore if/when to retake, and how to get the most from your CliftonStrengths results. 🌟 Work With Us! Brea Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! Lisa Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Retaking the assessment is rarely necessary. With a few exceptions, you’ll most likely gain more from investing your time and energy in developing your existing talents instead of seeking validation through a different set of results. Don't let labels limit you. Getting caught up in the labels of the strengths themselves can be more harmful than helpful. You can achieve your goals by using your existing strengths, even if they don't perfectly align with specific labels or expectations. For example, someone with low "Achiever" can still be highly successful by leveraging their “Competition” to move projects or people across the finish line. Work with a coach to maximize your strengths. A coach can help you understand your results, develop your talents, overcome perceived limitations, and apply your strengths to achieve your goals. Coaching offers a more effective path to personal growth and success than simply focusing on changing your assessment results. Take Action ● Shift your focus from rankings to actionable outcomes: Remember, the assessment is merely a tool for self-discovery. True growth comes from taking action based on your strengths. So, instead of seeking validation through changes in rankings, focus on identifying your desired outcomes, and then explore how to utilize your strengths to achieve those outcomes. ● Work with a CliftonStrengths coach: A coach can provide personalized guidance on applying strengths to specific goals, overcoming perceived limitations, and navigating potential confusion or frustration related to strength rankings. Lisa and Brea are both accepting new clients. Reach out today! 🎧 Listen now! p.s. - Don't forget to share this episode with friends who might find it helpful! Strengths develop in relationship. Don’t keep the good news to yourself. 😀 Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is about the question, do my Clifton Strengths results change over time? Brea: Oh my gosh, I get this question all the time. Lisa: Yes. Every single workshop, without exaggeration, this is asked every event. Brea: Everyone. Everyone. And this is a real, like, a real juicy topic because—well, because different people say different things. Lisa: Hot takes. Brea: So, let's dive in. Do our results change? Lisa: So, Gallup releases the actual numbers occasionally. The latest release said 73% of the top 10 stays consistent over decades. The things that are contained in the top 10, they can change order. And there are only a few things that tend to make the swings. And they're not the things we would think because people are always asking me, like, "I just changed jobs, is that going to change it? I was in a bad mood when I took the assessment, is that going to change the results?" Nope, nope. And surprisingly, the things that move it are things like you took it when you were 18 years old, and now you're 29 and your frontal lobe is fully developed. So, this very young age change into mature adult does give people some shifts. They see it when people experience major life traumas, and they see it when people change the language they take it in. So, if you're a native Spanish speaker, you took it in Spanish the first time, the second time you took it in English, and you changed the language of the assessment you took, they really see shifts when you do the language change. And those are the surprising few things that tend to give the big swings. Brea: Which makes total sense because of what it's assessing, right? It's looking at your brain and the patterns in your brain. So, when there's a traumatic brain injury… Well, of course, that's going to change your results. You know, if you're taking it in a language that's not your own, you're—you have to think and process more, so you're using a different part of your brain. Or when you move from being 18 and only ever living in your parents' house and not really ever having a chance to think for yourself, and the fact that your prefrontal cortex is still forming, of course, there's going to be a big difference, you know, between when you're 18 and 29. Like, yeah, that all makes sense. And I can say, from my own experience, I have seen dramatic shifts in some, moving from the top to the bottom, and the bottom to the top— Lisa Really? Brea: Yeah! Yes. But here's—without going into all of that, if you want—if you want to talk more about that, if your ears are, you know, like, really perked up right now, then go to my website, hop on my calendar. I'd love to talk to you about it. Um, but here's my—my overall take is that when that happens, your talent is not changing. Your nature is not changing. But often what happens is you've learned to use your talents, you've invested in your talents, you've nurtured your talents in a way that ends up creating a strength, right? You've followed the formula. You know, you've nurtured your nature, and now you have this strength that behaves like a talent theme is defined. So, for example, empathy is, I think, number six right now in my most recent assessment. But originally, I mean, it was very low, like, I'm going to say low 20s. Lisa: Was your connectedness really high simultaneously with empathy being low? Brea: Yeah, yeah. Connectedness has always been in my top five. Um, and so I think connectedness, individualization, you know, several of my—my relationship-building themes have really matured over the years. I've, you know, been able to refine them and use them. And I've learned the skill of empathy. I've studied it. I've read about it. I've taken classes. I've learned how to use my communication, how to use words to show empathy, or things like this. So, I've—I've acquired the skill of empathy, knowledge around how to show empathy to others. And I've learned how to align my natural talent so that it does show up. People often are surprised when I tell them that empathy is really low for me. I don't claim it as a talent. If we went through the clues to talent, it's not easy for me, it's not enjoyable for me, it's not an area where I thrive from a natural place. So, anyway, it's a whole another conversation, but, you know, a whole another way to kind of look at this. Lisa: Yeah. Yes, cuz I have all these questions and thoughts around you, the you, because you have—with connectedness and individualization, you have a couple of themes that would easily be in a zone of high intuition. And that does feel a lot like empathy, and I could see the translation of using those couple to really make it easy to—to leap over to empathy. Brea: Yeah, totally. So, if you've seen some dramatic shifting in your report, or if you see that with a client, that's where I would encourage you to—to start digging. Do these themes feel like talent, or is it a pattern of behavior that you frequently show, but maybe it's coming from other talents, and other places of investment, and nurture? Lisa: Yes. Brea: Very cool. Lisa: I know. I know. So, for me, the only other thing that I would talk about is authenticity because you—if you were not authentic in your results because you were trying to be someone, like you were saying, what—what would they want me to say at work, of course, you're—or you were only trying to show a work version of you, or who you want them—how you want them to think of you, or if you had someone else entirely take the assessment for you. Yes, I've had that happen. I had an executive get the results, and say, "This doesn't sound like me at all." Well, it's because they had their assist—didn't fill it out. Brea: Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Lisa: And it just goes to show, you know, you can see a lot of behaviors, but the drive behind them is for lots of different reasons. So, you really would not be able to have someone else answer the questions for you, and have it show up, right? Brea: Oh my gosh. Lisa: And I know it's kind of funny, right? Brea: Assistants can do a lot of things, but that's probably something you should do on your own. Lisa: So, right, in that case, I am so pro-retake. If you had your VA, your assistant, your sister, if you had someone else take the assessment for you, then, yes, you should retake it and do it yourself. Brea: Agreed. Agreed. I think a really important question when it comes to retaking the assessment is to think about why. Why do you want to retake it? If this is a question you're asking yourself, like, "Should I retake the assessment?" Why? What are you hoping—hoping to learn? What are you hoping to gain? Is it just because you're curious, you know, is it just because, um, you wonder, you know, if things have shifted, or is there—is there something specific that you're hoping that a new profile, or a new set of results, might give you? And that's, I think, a really good question to talk to a coach about. Um, because what I see a lot of times is people retake the assessment, and then, if things have shifted, if things have changed, it can lead to more confusion, and sometimes even like, a little identity crisis, like, "Oh my gosh, I used to have this high, and now it's not as high, and who am I, and what happened?" And so, it's important, um, if you do decide to retake the assessment, to understand why things are shifting, how things are shifting, what's—what might be causing that. Um, and a coach is a really good, you know, a really good person to go on that journey with so that you aren't confused, it actually brings more clarity. But most of the time, I find if people are curious, it's just because of that. They're just curious. And remember, the assessment is just the beginning. The assessment is not the end-all, be-all. So, if we can, it's really, I think, a better use of your time, and your energy, and your money to work with a coach to figure out how to use the profile that you have, to invest in it intentionally, to, you know, to make those talents work for you. Um, don't let the assessment define you, don't let it label you, don't let it put you in a box. Use it as a tool to move forward, to grow, to develop, to—to improve. Lisa: Yes. I am with you on all of those. So, you just prompted for me this concept of labels. And I think for a closing thought, it's worth saying, look, if you got one like competition, and your CEO keeps saying, "Hey, sales team, we need to stop being competitive against each other," and now you think you need to push your competition down. That isn't where you should retake. That's where you should work with a coach to figure out how to bring out the really good side of competition, like how you like to help everyone win, like how you're really focused on key performance indicators, and like, all of these elements of competition that would be really good, and not get caught up in how your corporate team uses a word that matches Gallup's labels. This whole thing with labels, if the word gets taken out of context, or isn't the one that Gallup means, sometimes people get really wrapped up in that. And they're trying to pull one up, or trying to push one down. And just like what Brea said, it's going to be a lot more effective for you to work with a coach on bringing out all the good stuff that is natural in you, rather than trying to stuff down these natural elements of you, because that isn't going to go that well over the long term. And this retake, sometimes it's just curiosity. And if it is, I get it. And if it's not just curiosity, it's one of those other things. Pull one up, push one down. Call Brea Roper instead, and work on bringing out the good side, and really maturing the ones that you have. That—that's going to be a much bigger return on your effort, and time, and money. Brea: Yeah. And if it is just curiosity, again, ask yourself, what am I going to do with this information? Okay, so you take it again, you know, you invest the money, you invest the time, you get the new data. Then what—what is that going to do for you? You know, what—what do you hope that that—that brings? And most of the time, people are like, "Well, I don't know. I'm just curious." And if you're not going to do anything with the new data, then why? Lisa: Yeah. You're making me think of a lot of customers over the years. Let's say their team charts come out, and it shows Achiever in the top five of a team, which is a very common thing to see. And now you're someone on the team, and your achiever is number 20, and you have some sort of shame about not being achiever enough, and you want to retake because you want to see if you can get it—either you can get it to show up higher, or if it has shown up higher, and then what—what if you retake it, and it's still a 20, then what? Are you just going to go off in a corner, and feel bad about yourself, or just hide it? I mean, instead, the real thing to do would be to work with a coach, and figure out how to get the behavior you want to get out of the natural talents you already have. And it's not an obvious thing. It's obvious to all of us who are coaches, because we're like, "Oh, you can do any work through the ones you have." But people will often first take the assessment and think it's going to fortune tell whether or not they can be valued on a team or not based on the team's lineup. And that's just not true. If you'll work with a coach, and use it in a great way to develop yourself. Brea: That's a great example that you work at your best. That's the best answer for you. So, invest in that. You know, get more of what works. Lisa: Yes. I love it. Notice what works about you to get more of what works. And if that label doesn't match up in the perfect way that your company says it, it's totally fine. Yeah, there might be a little bit of political work—work, or, yes, you might decide to call it something else. But really, all of these examples, we're just winding around semantics. It's all just the labels, but getting the outcome focus is really what matters. And I think that is the crux of this retake conversation is what outcome are you trying to get? And you can surely get the—the outcomes you want with the things that are already on the assessment that you have. Brea: Agreed. Agreed. Lisa: Okay. So, Brea, if someone wants to work with you on their results, they've taken it, or they've retaken it, and they want to work with you to use these strengths, talk to us about how to get in touch with you and explore these further. Brea: Yeah. Come to my website, brearoper.com, and let's schedule a call. We can talk about some of these things that—that we've talked about in this conversation, and discuss, you know, should I retake, should I not? Um, and then, we can coach you through it. How about you, Lisa? Lisa: Yes. Go to leadthroughstrengths.com. And if you're curious, like, you've taken this through your workplace, and it was when you were 21 years old, and now you're 45 years old, and it—a lot of time has passed, and you were in your early—early developmental years, like, a little before the frontal lobe was complete, maybe a retake is in order. If you need to do that, just go to the buy codes link at the top navigation on the website. That's an—if you do find that retaking the assessment, or needing to buy it in the first place, is where you are right now, you can just grab one on the website, leadthroughstrengths.com. Look in the top navigation under buy codes. Brea: Awesome. Love it. Grow the good. Lisa: Yes. Grow the good. Go call Brea, and get this thing going, instead of circling around, reassessing. Let's get the action going in your real life, not just getting a new piece of paper, getting a new report. Brea: I love it. Lisa Cummings, Brea Roper, here to save the world, one coaching conversation at a time. That's it. And that's all. See y'all next time. Lisa: See you next time. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | The Fine Print: This podcast is not sanctioned or endorsed by Gallup in any way. Opinions, views and interpretations of CliftonStrengths© are solely the beliefs of Lisa Cummings and Brea Roper.
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Are Strengths Nature or Nurture?
12/01/2024
Are Strengths Nature or Nurture?
We hear it all 👏🏻 the 👏🏽time 👏🏿: “Are strengths nature or nurture?” In today's episode, we weigh in with their opinions on whether our strengths and talents are hardwired into our DNA or shaped by our environment and experiences. And, spoiler alert…we don’t always agree. 🫣 Listen in as we explore how nature and nurture play a foundational role in who we are and how we develop. You’ll enjoy some fun metaphors and personal anecdotes about the impact of childhood experiences and how understanding our nature can help us navigate our environments more effectively. If you wonder about the interplay between your natural talents and the influences around you, this episode is for you. Thanks for allowing us to accompany you on your journey of self-discovery and growth, so you can lead through strengths! 🌟 Work With Us! Brea Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! Lisa Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways It’s nature AND nurture!: Are Strengths nature or nurture? We think it’s BOTH! Remember: Talent (nature) x Investment (nurture, environment, experience, knowledge, skills, practice, etc.) = Strength You can’t grow what you don’t know! Recognizing our natural tendencies and how we can nurture them positively, rather than imposing them on others, is imperative for growth. Watch out for negative impact and blindspots.: Look to your natural patterns to understand why certain experiences have a negative impact on you. Also consider when your natural tendencies might be overstepping others’ boundaries. Take Action ● Identify your talents. If you haven’t already, to identify your natural opportunities for growth. ● Recognize the impact of your environment. Acknowledge how your upbringing and surroundings have influenced you. Consider how the people, places, and things in your life today are nurturing (or hindering) your talent. ● Learn how your CliftonStrengths can feel or . Use these insights to nurture your strengths and manage what might negatively impact you. 🎧 Listen now! p.s. - Don't forget to share this episode with friends who might find it intriguing! Let's spread the conversation about our nature, and nurture together! 🌿 Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is all about nature versus nurture. Brea: This is a really hot button for me. And a hot button, just meaning it's interesting, intriguing. Are strengths nature? Are they nurture? This is exciting. Do you want to start with your answer first? Lisa: Okay. I think there isn't a clear answer. And I was very fascinated by this and still am. I think there's a part of us that is just DNA. And it doesn't matter if you drop me off in Antarctica when I was a toddler, I would have turned out in certain ways exactly the same. And I also think a lot of patterns in us come from nurture, come from our environment, our conditioning, the things we hear over and over again, or watch or see modeled in front of us, and they shape us in ways that we don't even realize. And I chased down the behavioral economists at Gallup a couple years in a row. So these are the smarty pants PhDs who create these instruments and just said, Hey, do we have a percentage? You know, can we know what bit comes from what part? And the way I net out their answer is we can't really measure that. And we can't really know. Although We all have our theories. So I thought it was kind of an unsatisfying answer and it probably was to them as well because we all just want an answer like 60% comes from our genetics and 30% comes from this thing and then 10% is this wild card that comes from over here. That would be cool if we could just know. That's where I landed. I think they're probably right that we've We really can't know and it's very difficult to measure. And I suspect, Brea Roper, that you disagree with me. Brea: Well, here's the thing. I wonder if we just need to define our terms. Are we talking about strengths? Are we talking about talent? Are we talking about what shows up on people's CliftonStrengths report? Or are we not talking about CliftonStrengths at all? I'd love to really just clarify what are we talking about? Lisa: Ooh, okay. So let's talk nature. What's nature to you? Brea: Well, where my mind goes is talent. Is talent nature or nurture? And that's where I feel like it is a very clear answer from that perspective because, you know, Gallup teaches that talent times investment equals strength. And at least in my mind, that's a very clear parallel to nature, talent multiplied by nurture, investment equals strength. Lisa: Uh-huh. Hmm. I feel like I just need to sit here in a deep pondering moment right now, because what you just said, that part's easy. I don't need to ponder that. I was thinking of it like nature equals DNA and nurture equals environment. Brea: Yeah, same, same. So if we say that talent is nature, then yeah, it's baked into you. It's DNA. It's, you know, how you come out of the womb. Nurture is investment. It's the time, the practice, the knowledge, the skills that you learn, but it also is the environment that you grew up in, right? It's the family that you grew up in. It's the teachers that you've had. It's everything else outside of nature that nurtures your nature, either positively or negatively, right? What say you? Lisa: Well, I just I think we're pretty close. If I replaced the word nurture with environment. It works for me so easily because of all those things you listed off, country you grew up in, all kinds of elements around you and what you, the actions you've taken toward your growth and that others have even taken toward or away from, especially in your younger, younger years where you weren't the one with agency over that sort of stuff. I think environment, if I replace the word nurture with environment, everything you said, I would be like, yep, we are totally in agreement. The word nurture, trying to associate it with negative doesn't make sense for me, just the word itself. I can play, I can do that for this episode and go, oh yeah, I think we're totally in agreement. I'm glad you did definition. But nurture is a good thing to me. So saying, that there's a negative nurture doesn't, my mind's like, bonk, that's not, that's not true. So I think we're in agreement. And I'm glad you did this because it is a definition thing. So we'll just do nature versus nurture. And then I'll just be like, and put my put my little asterisk on that, as we're talking. And for me, I'm talking environment. Brea: Yeah. Well, I think of it like this, you know, I'm the queen of metaphors. So here we go. If you're born a super sleek, sexy sports car, but you really want to become an SUV, right? Like You're never, you're never going to become an SUV. Like you are a sports car. You can drive your sports car up into the mountains or go off-roading. You can do the things that the SUV might do, but your body is just not made for that. It's going to hurt your tires. Lisa: You might just get stuck. I've seen one in Colorado last summer. It was high-centered off-roading in a hot hatch little car. It was made for being fast on a pavement and it was out on Cottonwood Pass. It's not where it should be. I don't know how it got to where it got, but it didn't get out. Brea: Yeah. So why didn't they go rent or borrow or figure out how to get a different tool to do the same thing? And the opposite could be said for an SUV. You don't want to put that on a race car track and expect it to handle the curves and go at the speed that the race car is designed to do. I think that's where I see it as like, we all are built, nature, we're built a certain way. And you could use the metaphor of bodies as well. Some people have more of an athletic, strong, really muscular build. You've got a football body maybe, or you've got a ballerina body or like a long and lean you know, runner's body. Like, both have muscles, both have skeletons, but they're different. And both of the bodies can go into the gym, and they can both do leg day, and they're going to work out the exact same muscles, but just because the muscles are built differently, they're going to develop differently. Lisa: Yes. Yes. This reminds me of When I was a kid, I was obsessed with organizing. And I still am. So I believe it's totally a nature thing. I don't care where I am, I'm going to be organizing things. I want my visual environment to be tidy. And I was the kid, literally single digit ages, probably six or seven, saying, Mom, I'm going to clean out the refrigerator again because it's too cluttered. Mom, I'm going to clean up the cabinets again and organize these bowls. And I had to do it. Even if it wasn't welcomed, I would feel compelled to do it. Totally the nature. Brea: Yeah, that's talent. That is the most natural way for you to approach a situation. There's that natural desire. So I think if people take assessments like CliftonStrengths earlier in their life, before they've learned the way that they should behave or the way that other people want them to behave or whatever, then what the assessment really finds is your nature, your most natural patterns, not your learned behaviors. Lisa: Right, right. Yes, I agree. Yeah, I won't fight you on that at all. And I think that it translates as you age, it translates into probably more practical uses. But also it can show up in my shadow side. I feel myself compelled to organize other people's things. Like if I'm around a person who isn't as tidy as I am, I want to straighten that thing up or put it in a proper spot because everything should have a home. And there are things like that where it may not be my business to be messing with somebody else's stuff in the house. Those kind of things. But it's driving me like, oh, Oh, that has to go where it lives. In my case, that would be blind spot. That would be overuse of, it would be not my place to mess with somebody else's stuff. And so that comes into the nurture element as well. Because it's like, in this case, there's nature. And it might feel like nature versus nurture, because it's like, Okay, you also have to train yourself that you can't impose your talents on everybody else. You have to know what is your responsibility and where somebody else needs to be able to have their life and their strengths as well. Brea: Yeah, that's why having this language can be so helpful because if little Lisa doesn't have that self-awareness yet, and is punished, and I know you didn't say this happened, I'm just making it up for the sake of conversation. If someone punishes you or reacts in a negative way when you move things or deal with other people's stuff, then that will teach the little you that that's not the right thing to do or not the right way to behave, which is not true. It just is misplaced or misdirected in that moment, maybe. So if the adults can have the language and the awareness to say, okay, little Lisa, I see what we're trying to do here, and I love that you want to be organized. Now's not the right time, or we can't actually move other people's things, you know, so maybe you need to ask permission first. Right, right. Lisa: And in my case, as a kid, they were like, wow, the refrigerator looks so amazing. We love when you do this. I'm like, get out of the trash can. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm organizing it again. Maybe this is why I overstep as an adult. I never had someone say, oh, you should ask first. Other people use that too. Brea: Oh, that's funny. Lisa: Okay. I heard of another example yesterday in a workshop of a childhood thing that made me think, oh, this is cool to hear the contrast. So there were two people who led through command and they met in an activity where they were matching up with somebody else who shared the same talent theme and they both grew up in a household full of brothers where they were the only girl in the sibling group. And they came up with the question, is this nature or nurture? Because we really think it's because of nurture because our environment was all the boys around. We had to be bold. We had to be convicted. We had to be the powerful version of ourselves if we were going to play with them. And it's what made us have command. And I was like, oh, this is so interesting because I also had an event where a lady grew up in a family full of brothers. And she said something about how she got to be protected. She got to be nurtured by these brothers who took care of her and looked over her and that it made her soft. And she was convinced this is why she had all the relationship themes. Yeah. Same scenario. And they were convinced totally that it was the nurture. But actually, I think that makes the case that this is nature. They probably would have become who they were going to become either way. Brea: Yeah. I mean, as the oldest of eight kids, I can speak from experience, you know, that like growing up with the same parents in the same house with the same siblings, we are not all the same, you know, we do not all act in the same way. So for sure, that's, that's where I feel very, very strongly that we all come out with a certain nature baked into us and the same nurture. the same nurture ring will have a different effect on each individual receiving it because the nature is different. Yeah. Our nature is nurtured. Yeah. Lisa: I love it. Instead of the phrase nature versus nurture, that's such a cool way to say it. Our nature is nurtured. Brea: Yeah, it's super interesting. And another area that I talk about this is with trauma. A lot of people are really, you know, trying to become more trauma-informed and on their own healing journeys. Why are some negative experiences that we have in our life, why do they affect me in a certain way and they don't affect you in the same way? You know, even if we experience the same negative experience, right? And it's because our talents have different needs. And if I need something that you don't need and the nurture that we're a part of doesn't provide that, if you don't need it, that's not traumatic for you. It doesn't hurt you in any way because you don't need it. So the fact that it's not there is fine. But if I have a really strong need for that because of my talents and it's not there, then that does affect me in a negative way. So it's all very, very interesting. Lisa: Endlessly. Endlessly so. So if somebody wanted to talk through this sort of stuff with you, what they need, what they bring, what their talents are at the nature level, how they might nurture them more with your help, how would they work with you, Brea? Brea: Come on over to my website: . You can schedule a quick call and I’d love to hear more about you, what you’re looking for, and talk about how we might be able to work together. How about you, Lisa? Lisa: I am, for this episode, I'm just going to give people a resource on the Lead Through Strengths website. If you go to leadthroughstrengths.com slash honored, or leadthroughstrengths.com slash insulted, you'll see a list based on your talent themes, some things that might hit you at a values level. And I think, although you can get pretty close to this idea of what is innate in you, I think our talents sit on this system of values. And these pages bring it together where they get to explore some things that might make their talents feel totally honored, totally nurtured. And then the insulted page might be the non-nurture representation, where it hits them at a hot button level. And the episode was intriguing and people are listening wondering, what about me and what about my talents and how does it actually show up for my specific talent themes? I think those would be a couple of good pages to check out and run against your top talents. Brea: Yes, I've seen those pages and for sure the insults just like, oh, it hits me. I'm like, yes, I do not like the way that that feels. So yeah, it's a great resource. I'll make sure that goes in the show notes as well. Yeah. Lisa: Excellent. In your excellent show notes. Brea: Okay. Bring us home, Lisa. Bring us home. Wrap it up. Lisa: Let's see. I mean, I come back to this concept of becoming more of who you already are and getting really comfortable in that concept. We spend so much of our lives trying to direct and control and If we spend a little bit more time focused on finding who we are at our natural best, I think a lot of that other stuff gets released. The pressure that you might feel to want to control and direct things really just starts to let go. Brea: Grow the good, people. Grow the good. Lisa: Grow the good. Another fine alliteration to end on. Nature versus nurture, grow the good. Brea: Love it. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | The Fine Print: This podcast is not sanctioned or endorsed by Gallup in any way. Opinions, views and interpretations of CliftonStrengths© are solely the beliefs of Lisa Cummings and Brea Roper.
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Can You Become Anything You Want
11/17/2024
Can You Become Anything You Want
Throughout our lives, many of us have been told we could become anything we want. Unfortunately, without understanding our natural talents and motivations, this belief can set us up to pursue goals that may not align with our true selves and capabilities. That’s why we look to our talents: to understand our true desires, and align our aspirations with our strengths. By embracing the strength-based mindset of becoming more of who you already are, you can achieve meaningful growth that aligns with your most authentic self. This approach fosters a healthier relationship with your aspirations, reduces pressure, and ultimately leads to greater happiness and success. 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways The Power of "Why": Understanding the true motivation behind your aspirations is crucial. Are you going after things because you’ve been told you should, or because they’re actually best for you? Neuroplasticity and Change: While our brains are capable of change, it’s likely not in your best interest to invest time and resources into trying to become someone you're not. Instead, focus on becoming more of the incredible person you already are. Grow the good! Coaching for Self-Discovery: Coaching is invaluable when trying to navigate your self-discovery and growth. Finding someone to guide you through this process can lead to greater clarity and fulfillment. Take Action ● Reflect on Your Aspirations: Take time to explore why you want to achieve certain goals or become a certain type of person. Ask yourself where those desires come from, and whether or not they align with your true self. ● Focus on Strengths: Instead of trying to become something you are not, identify your existing strengths and how you can leverage them to achieve your goals. Consider how you can use your natural abilities to reach desired outcomes. ● Seek Support: Find a coach, mentor, or trusted friend who can help you navigate your aspirations. They can ask you the tough questions that lead to deeper self-discovery and help you stay accountable to your true goals. ● Embrace Self-Love and Growth: Acknowledge and appreciate who you are while also striving for personal growth. Commit to loving yourself enough to seek improvement and development in areas that matter to you. Be sure to listen to the full episode for more insights and to reflect on your own journey of becoming. Remember, it's not about becoming someone else; it's about embracing and enhancing the incredible person you already are! 🎧 Listen now! Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is around the question, can you become anything you want? Brea: I say no. Lisa: Whoa. That is decisive. Decisive. Tell us. Brea: I mean, sometimes I want to be Michael Jordan. No, I'll never be him. Sometimes I want to be a penguin because penguins are awesome. No, never going to be a penguin. Doesn't matter how much I want it, how much I believe it, how much I try hard, believe hard. Doesn't matter. I'm never going to be that. Lisa: Okay, now I have some of these too, like, hey, I wanted to be a pro beach volleyball player, but I'm 5'5 and I don't jump that high and me trying to become that may help me grow, but I'm still not going to become that. But what about something that you want to be more of? Let me give you two examples I hear often. I want to be better at time management or I want to be a person who works out every day. Now, can you be that if you want to? Brea: Yeah, I think the word be might be where my hesitation is. Can I show up on time? Absolutely, right? Can I change my behavior? Can I work toward a different outcome, right? If I don't naturally or often show up on time, but I want to do that, can I do that? Sure. Can I be a person who naturally always with grace and ease and excellence show up on time? No, I just don't think that you can change who you are in that way. Lisa: What do you think? I like that you were able to find that it was the word be, like the being. Brea: Yes, I think it's Tom Rath that said this in Strings of Pride 2.0. You can't be anything you want to be, you can only become more of who you are. I believe that to the core of my being, you know? Lisa: This idea of becoming more of who you already are is what we hope our coaching is stepping someone through, that discovery of figuring that out. Brea: And that's where I think becoming anything you want or becoming anyone you want to be, it reminds me of, you know, people talk about like rewiring your brain. And I think for me, one question is, can you? which I think is what you're asking now and what we're kind of talking about. But to me, that doesn't even feel like the deepest question, I think. Should you? Sure, there's plasticity in our brains. Sure, we can change a habit, even a deep habit. I can choose to change what I think about something. Yes. I think that's so amazing. As humans, we can choose in a way that animals can't, non-living things can't choose in the way that we can. I think that's so cool that we can do that. And should I? Should I invest so much time and so much effort and so much resources into completely trying to change how I approach something? Is that the best use of my time and my money and my effort? Lisa: I love where you're taking this because I know the neuroscientists seem to disagree on these areas of plasticity anyway. So be like, yeah, neuroplasticity exists. How much is nature? How much is nurture? We can't really know. How much is it plastic? How far can you take it? So if they don't have a clear, easy answer, why worry about the debate of can you? We know to some extent you can. But to what extent, if they all disagree with each other, wouldn't it be productive as a human to explore the other question you raised? Should you? When I hear that question, I think about how then do you get closer to discovering who you really are and how do you get further away from the pressures of who you think you should be and how to even know that you think you should be someone because you might just unconsciously be internalizing these pressures and you don't even know it. So how do you handle that as far as coaching goes to help someone unravel these who you think you should be factors? Brea: Yeah. For me, it all comes back to what is the truth? Like, if you came and said, Brea, I want to be a pro beach volleyball player, you know, okay, what does that entail? Can you actually meet the requirements? Do you meet those requirements right now? You know, is there an actual height requirement to be a pro beach volleyball player? Or do you just think that you have to be taller than 5'5"? What's the actual truth? Or, I want to be a person who makes my bed. Well, why do you think that? Well, because all the gurus tell me that if I'm going to be a successful CEO, I have to make my bed every day. okay, let's explore that because it worked for them doesn't necessarily mean it will work for you or that you have to follow in that path. So that's where I would start is what is the truth, the truth of what you want and why you want it and also the truth of what is and then where do we go from there? Lisa: Yeah. What do you think about somebody who's in a corporate environment and they're like, Hey, I want to be a leader because that's the career path they know and they want to be a senior leader. They want to get promoted. What if you're this person who is saying my goal is to be a senior leader? But how do they even know if they want to be that because that's just the career path they know of and seems available and seems to be where the paycheck is compared with the idea of, hey, is this just because this is a pressure of who I think I should be because it's the only thing I know? So then how do you navigate that situation through this lens? Brea: I, yeah, again, I think that is what I mean by we start with the truth. You know, if they say, I want to be a senior leader. Okay, why? You know, what is it about that, that you want, right? Is it the title? Is it the paycheck? Is it the responsibilities, the quarter office? Is it the opportunity for impact? What is it? What about that? do you want? And why do you want it? And will it actually give you what you want? Because sometimes when we look at an opportunity, we think that there's potential there, or we think that it might be something other than what it actually turns out to be. Sometimes when people are in, let's say, a sales role, crushing it. They are constantly at the top of the leaderboard and they just are such a great salesperson. And so they're tapped for management. And they hate management. They get there, it's this promotion. But being an amazing salesperson and being an amazing manager of people are just completely different, right? One person is out on the road all the time, one person is at the desk all the time, you know? It's just different skills, different all the things. Lisa: You're making me think of that saying about when you're climbing up the ladder and then you realize it was leaning on the wrong wall and you're raising such good questions that they seem confronting. I think, I know I've been confronted with some of those questions. I know, I remember a senior VP asking me, why, why are you interested in this role? Really pushing me on the why and the why and the why behind the why. And I was like, Brea: It's not intended in an aggressive way. It's intended in an exploratory way, a discovery way. Lisa: Yeah. And this guy specifically, I remember thinking, I wonder if he just wants me to admit there's ego in it. That, yeah, I do like the title. Yeah, I do like the money. There were other elements I was describing in my why. internal motivators that made me feel alive. If you don't have someone in your life who will ask you those questions, whether a coach like Brea or like this senior VP, if no one asks you those questions and you don't confront those early, you might find you get promoted four steps along the way and then you realize, whoa, I created a life for myself that I am not into at all. How did I get here? What did I do? Brea: Yes, it's important to understand why you want that to see if taking the next step is what you should do. Also, there are times in our life when we're like, I just really want to be a pro beach volleyball player, or I really want to be Michael Jordan. I don't. really want to be Michael Jordan, okay? Like, what is it about that? Why am I attracted to the idea of being like Michael Jordan? Asking those questions and figuring out why does this aspirational identity, why is it attractive to me? Why do I want that? Can help us identify the deeper down things that we can actually attain or achieve or become, right? Because they are in alignment with who we are. Becoming a pro basketball player is not in alignment with who I actually am as a person, okay? I can never become a pro basketball player, nor do I really want to be. But there are aspects of Michael Jordan, who he is as a person, his intellect, his hard work ethic, his entrepreneurial journey, the impact that he's made. I mean, I could go on and on about him as a person. There are so many things that are in alignment with talent that is inside of me and things that I can aspire to imitating or striving for. I think that's that's where I'm at is we ask those questions of why. Why do you want that thing? Because it might not actually be that thing you want. It might be certain elements of that that are attractive to you that you can find in a different thing that will be better suited for you and that will actually allow you to grow beyond. Lisa: Yeah, absolutely. You're making me come full circle on our conversation and it brings it all together. What you were just talking about, it's the perfect tee up for strengths because inevitably somebody in a workshop or in a group or a team will say, I don't like this one or I wanted to see this other one because they like the word or it reflects a goal they've been working on. Usually that's another definitions issue. But if you're trying to accomplish something and you back into it from the outcomes level or the results level, this is where the useful conversation is anyway. So if somebody says, Oh, I really wanted Achiever. Oh, I really wanted Includer. If the next conversation is, tell me about what result you would want with that or tell me about the outcomes. What are you trying to achieve where that would come into play for you? And then they give you some examples and they're like, oh, well, I've been having trouble getting it done and hitting my deadlines on this global team with all these complexities and matrix reporting structures. And they give you this whole example. And then you just ask the question, and what if you use the ones you have, which ones could you lean on? And you get them down a conversation there, and they realize, I can achieve, I can get things done, I can hit my deadlines, and lean on the ones I already have, because those are the ones that are easy for me to lean on. If you spent your whole life trying to grab your achiever that's down at number 20, you're spinning your wheels and kind of draining yourself. And you could get there, you could raise it up, but it wouldn't be a high leverage way to spend your time. And I feel really confident that we agree on that point. So it's more like backing into it from the result or the outcome. Am I right? Am I right? Do we agree? Brea: Well, of course we agree. Yes, this is a very strength-focused partnership here. And that's where I think my sticking point is, again, it's the difference between being and becoming or doing, right? Is this who I am, my identity as a person, or is this just what I do or how I do it? I don't identify as an entrepreneur or a business owner. That's not who I am. That's not my identity. That's how I make a living, you know? That is how I spend a lot of my time, but that is not who I am as a person. This is where this conversation really pokes the bear inside of me is because I grew up like a lot of people, I think, believing that their identity is what they do, what they can do, how they perform. That's where I get really passionate about this. That's where the mama bear comes out. And I'm like, no, being something or becoming something or believing you can become something that you're not is not true. I think believing that sets us up to fail. I'd love to hear from listeners. Lisa: Yeah, we would love to hear and come tell us in a review, come communicate, let us know. And BreaBear, if they are like, hey, this is blowing up my idea of parenting or this is blowing up my idea of my career goals. And they now feel compelled. They've got to work with you. How do they do it? Tell us about how to bring out the Bria bear. Yes. Brea: Brearoper.com. B-R-E-A-R-O-P-E-R.com. Just come on over, schedule a call, and let's talk about your outcomes that you want to achieve and how you can do that using the tools that you already have. Beautiful. Lisa: I highly recommend. Brea is an amazing coach. And if you want to work with me, Lisa, let's move. I think on mine, I'll talk about the entrepreneur one. If you're like, I am in corporate, I have a side hustle career with training and coaching, etc. And I just need to get my head around what it's like to do and or explore the being. Who do you want to be? How do you want to show up? How does all this work? I would love to support you in that. We have a membership for coaches where we support you with the skills and a lot of the doing things so you can spend your energy being who you already are naturally at your best. And I can cover you on the operations, the visuals, the decks, the tools and all the things you have to build in those first years when you're getting started. On the website, LeadThroughStrengths.com, check out the link, Tools for Coaches. Brea: Love that. And so many people are already finding so much success using those tools. Yeah, it's really fun. Lisa: Yeah. Yes. OK, well, with that, I guess we should leave people to to go off and find their moment. And so if you believe you can fly, we're here to tell you today. No, you can't. Sorry. Brea: Not a bird. Lisa: Not a bird. Go back to being what you are best. Brea: Oh, my gosh. Unless you think you are the Wright brothers, you know, and you want to go build a plane, then do that. Lisa: There you go. Brea: Love yourself as you are. You are amazing and good and beautiful and strong and smart just as you are. But love yourself too much to leave yourself there, right? Find yourself a coach. Find yourself a friend. Find yourself someone else to push you to become more of the amazing person that you already are. Lisa: The way you said that was so beautiful. Love yourself too much to leave yourself there. I love that. Brea: I promise to all my clients, I'm going to receive you just as you are. And I'm going to love you there. I'm going to believe in you there. But I'm going to love you too much to leave you there. So you can do that for yourself. You can find someone else who does that for you. I know people are listening. Lisa: You're worth it. Yeah, they're like making the heart sign with their hands while they're listening. We'll see y'all next time around. Brea: Bye! Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | The Fine Print: This podcast is not sanctioned or endorsed by Gallup in any way. Opinions, views and interpretations of CliftonStrengths© are solely the beliefs of Lisa Cummings and Brea Roper.
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Believe in Yourself
11/03/2024
Believe in Yourself
Using Strengths to Believe in Yourself From time to time, everyone struggles to believe in themselves. Especially when faced with challenges and changes in their lives. Too often, this doubt can lead to feelings of inadequacy, and hold us back from the growth we desire. That’s why we look to our talents: to identify and question limiting beliefs, so we can shift our mindset to take actionable steps toward our goals, no matter how unattainable they may seem. As always, this episode is packed with insights and practical tips to help you believe in yourself and take those next steps on your journey of development and growth. 🌟 Work With Us to Unlock Your Ability to Believe in Yourself BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa for 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on How to Believe in Yourself Beliefs are not fixed. We often label ourselves based on our past behaviors, like saying "I am a late person." But is that really true? It's essential to examine whether these beliefs are true or just perceptions based on specific circumstances. Always remember, you can change your mind. Bridge Thoughts: Change doesn’t happen overnight, and sometimes the leap to an aspirational identity feels daunting. Instead, consider "bridge thoughts" – small, manageable beliefs that can help you focus on the present moment and reinforce your commitment without overwhelming yourself. For example, if you're trying to live alcohol-free, instead of saying "I am alcohol-free," you might say, "I choose water today." This approach allows you to gradually shift your mindset and move toward being alcohol-free, one step at a time. Focus on the Positive: When making changes, it's helpful to concentrate on the positive motivations behind your choices. Reminding yourself why you want to change can anchor you during challenging moments. Self-Compassion is Key: Change is a journey, and it's normal to face obstacles along the way. Be kind to yourself during this process, and remember it's okay to lean on others for support as you work toward believing in yourself. Take Action so You Can Believe in Yourself ● Identify Your Beliefs: Reflect on the beliefs you hold about yourself, especially those that may be limiting. Are these beliefs true, or are they based on specific circumstances? ● Create Bridge Thoughts: Find an actionable step that feels more attainable than a complete identity shift. ● Practice Small Choices: Start making small, intentional choices that align with your desired identity. For example, instead of saying ‘I am alcohol free’, try ‘I choose water today’. ● Focus on Your Strengths: Leverage your unique talents to support your goals. Consider how your strengths can help you navigate challenges, reinforce your new beliefs about yourself, and make choices that support the aspirational you. ● Seek Support: If you're struggling to believe in yourself, consider working with a coach who can help you see your strengths and encourage you to take the next steps. #BelieveInYourself #PersonalDevelopment #Podcast #SelfBelief #Strengths #Coaching #GrowthMindset #Productivity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment 🎧✨ Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript for the “Believe in Yourself” Episode Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea: And I'm Brea.. Lisa: And today's topic is believe in yourself. Brea: Ooh. Believe in yourself. Believe in yourself. Tell me more. Lisa: What does that mean? Oh, this has been a conversation I've been on recently with clients about how to believe in yourself, how to believe in possibilities when they don't feel attainable, how to believe that change can happen in your life when you haven't been feeling accountable or able to make a change despite Maybe taking some actions but not getting the results. So all of those things that surround belief. Brea: Love it. Great. This sounds like a really interesting conversation. Where should we start? Lisa: Well, I know we have all kinds of strengths angles we can take as well. What if we start with an example? This person has been a chronically late person. I know we're calling back to your Woo-monk who couldn't show up, right? But this person is having trouble showing up to meetings on time. And it was never a problem because I'm just going to make this person a he. He never had trouble with it before because he worked in a work culture where it didn't matter. They always started meetings five minutes, ten minutes late. No one cared. Goes to a new job and is chronically late and it is not going over well. Trying to identify with this thing this concept. I show up on time was Really making his mind explode. He's like I'm always late. I am an idol. I'm a hot mess I I'm not structured like that and he really resisted being that person but he also was coming to to realize he needs to believe something different about himself and show up differently and get different results or it's not going to go well in the career Sometimes belief is “forced” and sometimes you want to believe in yourself because you want to believe you can continue to grow in a certain way but this one's feeling a little more Forced so to speak like oh, I better I better do this or else. I'm gonna have some trouble so Let's go there You're trying to believe in yourself, but you don't identify at all with this future you that you've established isn't it's important Where do you start with people Brea? Brea: Hmm Well, what it's making me think of is where do those beliefs come from? I think that's maybe where I would start is why do you believe what you believe? And is what you believe true? That's usually in coaching where I start is what is the truth here, right? And sometimes we look through the talents, you know, you know, I believe that I'm a late person because I am always late, you know, like, okay, so that And that's true, that I am always late. Or do I feel like it's always? Is it just at this job, people are commenting on it, and I hear it a lot, but is the reality that I'm always late? Or is it just I have this meeting once a week, every week, and every time people remark on it, so I'm hearing it a lot, and it feels like always. I have lots of other things in my life that I'm not late to, so is the belief true? That's, I think, where I would start. Lisa: And really getting down to dissecting it. I think for so many things, we consider it true, we think it's true, and then it's not. I love to get down to the facts with people. and it might be just really defining the circumstance. Like you said, that meeting. Is it this one meeting, and that's the one that we're talking about, and you're late 50% of the time, and is this something that everyone would agree is factually accurate? You're late 50% of the time. So you could go down that path, but you could also go down the one that you said, which is like, I'm a late person. Is that true? Or do you just decide to act like a late person? Brea: If even if it is true that you're consistently late to let's say that particular meeting, right, or a particular thing, you're always late to it. Is it because you are a late person, you know, where, or is it because there's something right before it that just always goes over and it's out of your control? Is there a reason that you're late? more often than not, you know, and can you do anything to change that? You know, is it who you are as a person, your identity, or is it just a circumstance, you know? Lisa: Yeah. And if it is a circumstance, what do you do to address the other one it's impacting if that's getting in the way of your results like yeah changing the one that is the thing that's happening before it if you identified that yeah there's this thing that runs over and that is what's going to happen okay if I have to deal with that circumstance how do I address that and continue to move on and then that part's pretty It's factual. It's simple. Most people skip over it. I think it's really important that whole idea of getting down to the real results. What is actual fact? What what seems like truth? What is truth? And then when you get to what result do you want that you're not getting? This is for me the crux of it. And I think people make things an identity problem like this one. I am a late person. You're making that you're taking it on like it's DNA that can't be changed. So maybe they can't go from I'm a late person to I show up on time. That feels too far. You need a bridge thought. So, okay, with this result you want to get, what are some thoughts you could have that feel like that person? Let's just embody the belief, “I am a person who shows up on time.” What other things are true about you when you are a person who shows up on time? and they come up with a list. It might be things like, when I start meetings, I start them on time. I value people. I respect other people's times. I create buffer spaces in between my meetings because maybe the thing that keeps getting them is something as simple as, I have to go to the bathroom in between and this meeting ends and the next one begins and there are zero minutes in between. It might just be a logistics problem. But really getting in the mindset of future you. If you're going to believe in yourself in the way that is like, I am this person, I show up on time. What actions do you take when you are a person who does show up on time? It's just a simple process, but you have to take the time to sit down and think through things. · How do I behave when I'm a person who shows up on time? · What do I do for myself? · What do I do for my calendar? · How do I interact with people? · What does it look like to begin to shut a meeting down five minutes early, 10 minutes early, whatever it might take? · What kind of experiments do you need to run in the meantime? Brea: Yeah, these are all so good. I think it is, it's really fascinating how we can, and we do often, I think, connect our identity, you know, who we are as a person to these types of things. It, that's not who you are. A late person or an on-time person is not your identity. But we have that self-talk all the time of, I am a blank or I'm not an on-time person, you know? So again, I think that's where the language of CliftonStrengths can be so helpful because If you lead with adaptability, instead of saying, I'm a late person, you might say, when I meet people as I'm walking to the next meeting, I'm the kind of person that wants to engage with them. I honor them. I respect them. I delight in them. I am curious about them. You know, whatever, whatever your talents bring, like. really settling into who you are instead of who you aren't and then figuring out how do I use that, how do I use the talents that I have to accomplish this outcome or this goal of showing up on time, right? That the outcome is difficult for me to do from a natural place. So how do I use who I am to help me get there, you know? Yes. Lisa: Yeah that's such a beautiful tie to strengths the idea of who you are that you love and appreciate versus who you aren't. Now I started with one that was a little it almost feels like a logistics problem to solve so it seems a little bit simple. Now let's get into one that's a little complicated and wrapped up in a little, a little juicier way in someone's life. So I was working with someone recently who is trying to live alcohol free. Okay, so now you're trying to identify with a phrase, I am alcohol free. You haven't had major problems. You're not an alcoholic. It hasn't gone to a rock bottom situation, but everything in your life feels intertwined in this. Every social situation, girlfriend mimosas, dinners, every time you go out anywhere, it feels like everything is centered around drinking. And now you're the person who doesn't drink, and all these people have expectations of you. Because they've been around you for the last 15 years with a drink in your hand Now you want to make a switch and you're like, okay, I see future me and I'm good with it I feel good in this body My body feels honored because I've been taking care of it and you can get into all these positive things about it But then you show up to your Sunday morning brunch that you've had for the last 15 years and people are like, “What's up with you…no fun zone?” Then what? How do you continue to believe in yourself and who you've decided you're going to be, who you're going to grow into? Brea: Yeah, I think it all comes back to focusing on the good. What is your motivation? Why have you decided that you're not going to drink alcohol? And let that lead you. Be confident in that, you know? Maybe for some people it might be helpful to not use the words, I am, but to say, I choose not to drink alcohol or to focus on the good or the positive and say, I choose to be alcohol free, right? I choose to only put healthy things in my body or I choose to, you know, whatever the case may be. Maybe for some people who struggle with the future aspect of the future me, the aspirational, bring it to the present and just say, what am I doing right now, right? What am I choosing today in this moment? And remind yourself why, why you're choosing that. Maybe that could anchor you. Lisa: I think that's good. That made me think if you combine the meeting person with the alcohol person, it made me think about those bridge thoughts where the person who couldn't get to meetings could really get to, I respect other people's time. That felt true. That felt easy. That felt like, okay, if I'm a person who respects other people's time, this is how I'll act. And that's an easier guidepost at this point in the journey. And for this alcohol free person, it might be when you said I choose I was imagining this person saying, I choose water today. And that's it. I choose water. And that can feel more true for them, more grabbable for them in the moment. Sometimes you can't leap all the way from one to the other without taking these backslides. And if you grab the bridge step, you can build the confidence. You can believe in yourself for the moment because you believe you can choose water the next time you have a choice. Brea: I really like that bridge step. I think image is so powerful because you don't just jump from one side of the bridge to the other. It is a journey, you know, it's a series of steps. And to go from one side of the Grand Canyon to the other, I mean, that's a big leap. It's impossible for anyone. So to go from being someone who has drank, drunk alcohol? What's the right word? I don't know. who has drunk alcohol, you know, especially in social situations, especially at this particular party that happens with these people. To go to the completely other side, yeah, that can feel so far and so unattainable. So, to just take it one step at a time, I mean, that's how we make change in life is one choice at a time. And it reminds me of the CliftonStrengths the talent of belief. I think for people that lead with that talent, this comes so naturally because they have that, just that inner knowing, that inner belief, that inner grounding is ingrained in them so much that every decision just naturally flows from that. Whereas other people, we have to maybe do some work to identify what those core principles are so that the decisions that we make, you know, aligned with that. We have to be more intentional about that. Lisa: Yeah, totally. I think I see this with people who lead through responsibility. I have an example where my dad believes that Hawaiian rolls are poison because they're full of sugar and he will not buy them for my sister and her family because why would I buy them poison? That is responsibility. Brea: Oh my gosh, that's so awesome. My dad loves Hawaiian rolls. Oh my gosh, love that. Lisa: I mean, it's like dessert. So, you also, do you have, I think you leaked your self-assurance. How does that one show up with believing in yourself? Brea: I always believe in myself. You know, I have the other problem of, yeah, believing too much sometimes. And I also have an internal belief that other people believe in me and that other people should believe in me. And that is something that as I've grown older and lived a little bit more life that I've realized not everyone believes in me the way that I believe in myself. I believe in myself so strongly and I believe in others really strongly. I mean, hi, I'm the hype girl, you know, the strength type. Like I love believing in people and cheering them on and holding their hand or giving them the tools and resources they need to like take the next step. Like that's, that really is not just what I do, that's who I am. To realize that other people don't believe in me as much as I believe in myself, they may not believe in themselves as much as I believe in them. And that's been something that I've learned, you know, through the years. So that has been a challenge from a different, a different perspective, you know, Lisa: And this makes so much sense. This is insider info for all the listeners. But when I first brought up this idea, Brea: Oh, no. What did I just divulge? Lisa: I mentioned the concept of believe in yourself? And you're like…mmmmm….you weren't feeling it. And this makes absolute sense. Because you're like, well, self assurance. I just believe in myself. I'm hype girl. I believe in everyone else. What seems to be the problem? What is there to talk about? Brea: Yeah, it's funny when you threw that out on Voxer. I was like, I just don't know that I have anything to add to that conversation. You know, like, I don't, I don't even know what I would say. And I guess I should never worry about that. I always have words to say. Lisa: Thankfully, communication is in your lineup as well. So it's not a problem. Brea: Yeah, it is interesting, though, how our talents, you know, really affect everything about us, how we approach everything comes back to what are the patterns that are naturally occurring in you? When we look at the definition of talent, Gallup defines that as patterns of thought, feeling, and behavior. So how you think, which is where these beliefs come from, is how I think about things, how I believe, what I believe, how tightly or strongly I hold those beliefs, everything around this topic. We could talk for hours about it because it's so deep and rich. It all comes back to your talent. Lisa: And probably depending on...
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Appreciation and Recognition
10/20/2024
Appreciation and Recognition
We all know how good it is to feel valued at work… but, as a manager, is it worth the time and expense? And how can we ensure that our recognition resonates? In today's episode, we dive into the powerful world of appreciation and recognition! We chat about how everyone loves to be recognized, but not everyone enjoys the spotlight in the same way. You’ll hear us share our personal experiences with recognition. We emphasize the importance of understanding individual preferences when it comes to appreciation, because what resonates with one person might not connect with another. We also discuss some practical tips for recognizing your team or peers without breaking the bank. You’ll learn that simple, genuine compliments can go a long way, and how being specific about what you appreciate can amplify someone’s performance. Plus, we touch on the idea of the "platinum rule"—treating others the way they want to be treated. So, whether you're a manager or just someone looking to spread a little positivity, this episode is packed with insights and actionable ideas to help you create a culture of recognition in your workplace and beyond! 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on Recognition and Appreciation Recognition is Personal: Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight. While some thrive on public praise, others may feel uncomfortable with it. It's crucial to understand individual preferences when it comes to recognition. Pay attention to body language and responses when you acknowledge someone's efforts. This will help you tailor your approach and make your recognition more meaningful. Specificity Matters: Generic praise like "Good job!" can feel empty. Instead, focus on specific actions and results that you appreciate. For example, instead of just saying "Great work," try saying, "I loved how you handled that complex project; your analysis really helped us make informed decisions." This not only shows that you are paying attention but also reinforces the behaviors you want to see repeated. The Power of Intentionality: Our brains are wired to focus on what’s wrong. That’s why it’s essential to be intentional about recognizing the good in others. By actively looking for and celebrating strengths, we will create a more positive environment that builds trust and encourages people to work hard. In fact, research shows that frequent recognition can lead to a 40% increase in productivity! Take Action on Recognition through Strengths ● Start Recognizing Immediately: Recognition doesn’t have to be a big to-do or include expensive gifts. It can be as simple as a verbal acknowledgment, a note, or an email. You can start small. The key is to just start. ● Be Specific in Your Praise: Instead of generic compliments like "good job," focus on specific actions or results that you appreciated. Highlight what the person did well and how it aligns with their strengths to encourage them to repeat that behavior. ● Utilize CliftonStrengths: If you have access to the CliftonStrengths reports for your team, use the language and insights from those reports to tailor your recognition. This will help you appreciate team members in a way that resonates with them personally. ● Create a Recognition Culture: Encourage a culture of appreciation not just as a manager but also as a peer. Look for opportunities to recognize small acts of kindness or effort in your daily interactions, both at work and in your personal life. ● Download Lisa’s free resource: “" to find various methods of appreciation that go beyond simple praise. Let's start appreciating each other in ways that truly resonate! Because people are good. And the numbers will follow. 🎧✨ Further Reading on Appreciation and Recognition ● by Margaret H. Greenberg and Senia Maymin, PhD. ○ Forward by Tom Rath, who we all know and love as the author of StrengthsFinder 2.0. ○ Whether you lead three employees or 3,000, this book shows you how to increase productivity, collaboration, and profitability using the simple yet powerful tools from the field of Positive Psychology. ○ Features case studies of some of the most forward-thinking and successful companies today―Google, Zappos, and Amazon ○ Provides over two dozen evidence-based tools you can apply immediately, and are completely free! ● by Gary Chapman & Paul White ○ This book gives you the tools to create a more positive workplace, increase employee engagement, and reduce staff turnover by teaching you to effectively communicate authentic appreciation and encouragement to employees, co-workers, and leaders. ○ BONUS: Each book contains a free access code to take the Motivating By Appreciation (MBA) Inventory, so you can learn your language of appreciation. #Podcast #Productivity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment #Appreciation #Recognition #WorkplaceCulture #TeamEngagement Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript of the Appreciation and Recognition Episode Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is appreciation and recognition. Brea: I love to be recognized. Lisa: Well, I think most people love to be recognized. And just like we have different strengths, we have different styles for recognition, too. Especially at work. So let's talk about that element. How do you even know, say you are in a staff meeting with 100 people and you want to call them up to the stage so you can shine the spotlight on them and you see them shrink? How do you even avoid that? How do you know what someone likes and how they want to be appreciated? Brea: All I can think is, I've been that person. As much as I love to be in the spotlight, I love to shine the spotlight on other people. I love to just spoil and make people feel so special. I mean, hello, I'm the hype girl. You know what I mean? This is what I do. And so I've been in that position so many times, Lisa, where I have put so much thought and effort and time, money, all the things into creating this super delicious moment to really celebrate this person. And then it doesn't go as I planned. I missed the mark in some way. And I think it comes from not always really understanding what it is that they want. Just because I want the spotlight doesn't mean everyone does. Right. So yeah, it's such an interesting conversation. Yes. Lisa: I mean, I know recognition and appreciation, at their best, they require some specificity and the person to know what the thing is, but also just the idea of praise and attention in general can be great. I saw this McKinsey research that said, praise, attention from leaders, and opportunities to lead to projects are more effective motivators than performance-based cash rewards, increases in base pay, or stock options. Brea: Wow, that's pretty powerful. Yeah, I mean, all I hear is Jerry McGuire, like, show me the money, but like, that's not always true, you know? It's not always true. Lisa: And how many times do we have leaders, we're working with them to build their cultures, we're doing workshops with them, And they're like, I don't have the budget to just be throwing money at people for everything they do that's great. And that's the good news here. You can appreciate and recognize employees without it. So what do you do, Brea? They come to you and they say, where do I start? I don't have any money to give. I don't have budget for this sort of thing. What are some things I can be thinking about when I want to recognize my team or appreciate good performance? Brea: Yeah, so just start doing it, okay? Let's not worry about the best or the ideal or the perfect way to appreciate or recognize. Just start, a quick compliment, recognizing something good that someone has done. period and say it out loud. You can write it in a card. You can tell them in passing. You can just make a quick trip to the cube, you know, and tap them on the shoulder and say, hey, I noticed this. Even an email. I mean, anything that is more than what you're doing now, will it be appreciated? And then look for the shining eyes, look for the change in posture, the chest kind of puffs out a little bit or they sit up a little bit taller. Notice those signs of reception, of the recognition. And look for the shrinking people, you know, look for the people who are like, oh, no, please don't recognize me out loud in this team meeting in front of everybody. Pay attention to how they respond and you'll get better and better at appreciating and recognizing them in the way that they want to be recognized and appreciated or for the things that are most meaningful to them. I love it. Lisa: I love hearing the simplicity of just get to the doing and don't worry so much about the details. I find myself often giving the do's and don'ts so I like how you said it better to get someone to just get over the hump and go. I mean go beyond time spent because it's really easy to Make your first foray into recognition. Like, “I know everyone's been working so hard. Everyone's been staying up so late.” And it's not like you want to non-recognize people for putting in extra effort. But it also doesn't give them any information. One of the things I bust people on all the time is saying, Oh, “good job, buddy.” Good job, Brea. Good job. But there's nothing. There's no substance. It just feels like a platitude. I mean, if it's genuine and you did think they did a good job, I think that is better than saying nothing. However, if you can really get focused on the results you love seeing, What is the specific thing they did that they could repeat? So could you add on, I loved how this, I really appreciated this element of it. And remember, if somebody already created a result that you want, and you tell them about it, they can do it again, because they've already done it. So it's easy to repeat. And if they're using their strengths, it came naturally to them. So calling out the result part, and if it aligns with their strengths, and it got a result, you're going to amplify their performance. So you get something out of it, too, even if it feels like it's taking up your mental time and space to come up with the words to recognize them. It's worth it. It's worth it for them, for their engagement, for the performance of the team. I mean, all the way around. Brea: This is so good. So many little truth bombs that you mentioned there. Another thing is, you know, we talk a lot about CliftonStrengths on this podcast, and that assessment can give you the words that will really resonate with the specific person. If you're a manager of a team and you've got your CliftonStrengths reports of the people that you lead, go pull out words and phrases from that individual's report. It will tell you what they want to hear. It will tell you what they value. It will tell you where their strengths lie. And they want to be appreciated for that. They want to be recognized for that. So you don't have to come up with the words on your own. You've got that tool at your disposal. Lisa: Yeah. I mean, seriously, if you're the person who says, good job, buddy, and you want some specific words, when you look at it, you'll see the difference between somebody who leads through analytical, and you can say, wow, you really cut through all of the noise we've been faced with all this complexity, we couldn't get to the real answers, and you gave us the actual leading indicators to make some business decisions that change the course of our business in the last two quarters. Wow, that would be really meaningful to somebody who leads through analytical. But if you lead, have somebody lead, yeah, but if you lead through empathy and then you said something completely different, like, ooh, you caught that moment in the room when Jim was not having it, but we were all about to conclude the meeting, assume everyone was off to do the work, but you stopped and said, Jim, where are you on this? Because you saw it and no one else caught it. That kind of recognition goes a long way because it makes them want to use their talents. And those two examples are on a different planet from each other. Brea: Totally. This is making me think of how often as managers and leaders, we give what we have and we treat other people the way that we want to be treated. So we're leading from our strengths. And this can be a little challenging when it comes to appreciation and recognition, because that's just my language. So I recognize it easily when it happens. I appreciate it when it happens. So it's easy for me to appreciate that in others. but I don't lead with empathy. Let's imagine empathy is at the bottom. The people on your team with empathy are not ever going to hear those types of recognition and appreciation come from you unless you're intentional about it, unless you learn their language, and unless you're intentional about looking for those types of things. It's just not naturally going to come from you if it's not in your talents. So that's another place that having the language from the assessment is super helpful to understand where it's easy for you to appreciate, recognize, and give that to others, and where it's not. And to know that even if it's not natural for you, there is still hope. You know, you have this tool that can help you to make sure that everyone is included in being recognized and appreciated for what they bring. Lisa: Yes, absolutely. And this reminds me of something that you said in a conversation we had earlier. where you said, this is all about platinum rule. It's not about treating them the way I want to be treated. It's treating them the way that they want to be treated. And that extra step of me trying to think of their strengths, their motivators. their preferences, watching their eyes shine and repeating things in that area. That took effort on my part to care about them and who they are and what they bring. So it means that much more if you can recognize them for how they want to be treated, not for how you want to be treated. Brea: Yeah, it's interesting and a little fascinating to me that the idea of the golden rule, the idea of treating others as we want to be treated, is kind of already a stretch for a lot of people, you know, because there's just so much negativity in the world and the temptation is always to be focused on what's wrong, where do we need to fix something, what's broken, how can we make this better, and our brains have just kind of been trained in that way. You know, as we've grown, being kids in school, when we brought home the report card, the attention was on where we were lacking, you know? It wasn't praising the A's and the A pluses and the B's. It was: where are you struggling + let's fix the problem. And so just this idea of looking for what's good in people, looking for what they did well, And taking a moment to recognize that is a strengths-based approach. It's actually not only countercultural, but I think it's just kind of counter to the way that our negativity bias naturally works, you know, in our brains. And so we have to be intentional about this. What I mean by have to is we have to do it because it's not natural for us. So we have to be intentional. And also, we have to do this because people need it. I think it's a responsibility that we have to really shine the light on what is strong and what is working. And the irony of it all is that when we do that, when we appreciate what's working and recognize what's working and celebrate it, then we get more of it. Right. Because people feel valued. They feel appreciated. They feel wanted. They feel like they make a difference. And so they want to keep doing more of that. So your numbers will follow. Yes. Lisa: The numbers do follow. Yeah. And I like it because you're being like the you're being the appreciation hype girl. in a great way. And for those who are, yeah, you know, those who are like, yeah, this is the right thing to do, or this is what a leader would do. Some people are going to be totally motivated by it. And I can also see the people in our workshops who fold their arms, take a deep breath and say, that all sounds like a great rainbow land. We're all really busy and I don't have time to be giving everybody a trophy for just showing up and doing their job. And I will say, if you were the arm folder as you were listening to Brea, by the end, you caught her talking about how this does come around and serve. profitability, productivity. We have real metrics from strengths research. There's a book called Profit from the Positive, and she had a stat in there on managers giving frequent recognition and genuine encouragement, seeing a 40% increase in productivity. So, I just say, I encourage you, if you find yourself in the arm folding phase, because many of us find ourselves in and out of moments like that where you're like, I'm just too busy. I cannot pull my head up and start thinking about how people need praise from me. I feel like leaders experience that often where you are in a frazzled place and it feels difficult. to pull yourself out to do it. But this is a motivating metric to show that it is worth doing it. So you can't afford to be the arm folder. You can't afford to be the one saying you are too busy to do this. The team needs it. Brea: So your numbers will follow. There's a stat that comes from the Business News Daily. They say that more than 80 percent of employees say they're motivated to work harder. when their boss shows appreciation for their work. More than 80% of people are motivated to work harder. Your numbers will follow. And it's not hard to do this. And like you said, it doesn't even have to cost a lot of money. You can change your culture by just starting to appreciate and recognize specifically. Look for the specifics and look for what's good. And I think if you can focus on both of those things, you will see the change. And it can be immediate. And it can be dramatic. It can really transform. Absolutely. Lisa: And there are people who are listening who are not managers. There are also people who don't work in a corporate environment, and they might even be saying some of this applies to me and some of this doesn't. This matters for peers. This matters for you out in the world, just out in your life. If you take this on as something you're set out to do, I'm going to appreciate small things that people do for me in my regular life. We all have the...
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How to Get In Flow
10/06/2024
How to Get In Flow
In today's episode, we dive deep into the concept of flow, that magical state where time disappears and creativity flows effortlessly. We share our personal experiences with flow—what it looks like for us, and the unique ways we prepare for those moments. You’ll hear us discuss the importance of creating space in your life, whether that means blocking off time in your schedule or setting the right environment with candles and epic soundtracks. We also explore the difference between being in flow and simply being focused, and how understanding your own strengths can help you find your flow more often. So, if you’ve ever wondered how to get into that sweet spot of productivity and creativity, this episode is packed with insights and practical tips to help you discover your own flow state. Get ready to embrace the freedom to flow! 🌟 Work With Us and Help Yourself Get In Flow BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on How to Get In Flow ● Flow vs. Focus: There’s a difference between being in a flow state and simply being focused. Flow is characterized by effortless engagement and losing track of time, while focus can be more about forcing yourself to complete tasks. ● Create Space for Flow: To get into flow, it's essential to create space. This could mean blocking off time for specific activities or ensuring you have a relaxed environment free from distractions. ● Personalize Your Approach: Everyone experiences flow differently. Identify what works for you by reflecting on past moments of flow and recognizing the conditions that helped you get there. This could involve specific activities, environments, or even mental states. ● Embrace Freedom: Finding flow often requires a sense of freedom. Maybe it's the freedom to let your mind wander, the freedom to eliminate distractions, or the freedom to color outside the lines and approach your work in a new, innovative way. Recognize what kind of freedom you need to tap into your flow state. ● Leverage Your Strengths: Understanding your unique talents and strengths can help you create opportunities for flow. By aligning your activities with where you find natural yearning, learning, satisfaction, ease, and excellence (the five clues to talent), you will greatly enhance your chances of experiencing that effortless state. Take Action as You Explore How to Get In Flow ● Identify Your Flow Moments: Reflect on past experiences where you felt completely immersed and lost track of time. Write down these moments and analyze what conditions or activities contributed to that flow state. ● Create Space for Flow: Block off dedicated time in your schedule for activities that allow you to enter a flow state. This could involve clearing your calendar, finding a quiet space, or eliminating distractions. ● Prepare for Flow: Before engaging in tasks that you anticipate will require flow, take time to prepare your environment. This could include setting the mood with lighting, music, or other elements that help you feel comfortable and focused. ● Practice Presence: Work on being present in the moment by minimizing distractions and allowing your mind to settle. This can involve mindfulness techniques or simply taking a few moments to breathe and center yourself before starting a task. ● Leverage Flow Experiences: After experiencing flow, take time to reflect on what worked well and how you can replicate that experience in the future. Consider creating a plan or a list of topics to explore during your next dedicated flow time. If you're looking to enhance your productivity and creativity, I highly recommend tuning in to this episode! Let's explore how we can all get into flow more often and make the most of our unique talents. 🎧✨ #Podcast #FlowState #Productivity #Creativity #Leadership #PersonalDevelopment Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript on How to Get In Flow Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's episode is all about how to get in flow. Brea: How flow can you go? Lisa: That's such a good question, where you're like, really, how much flow can I get? How often can I get it? I want it all the time. Brea: All the time. Lisa: Yeah. How often do you think you are truly in flow in a given week? Brea: Not as much as I want, that's for sure. I mean, my flow comes when I'm on a stage with thousands of people around me. So that rarely ever happens. Yeah, thanks for being real. Not even once a week. Lisa: Excellent for listeners to hear stuff like that because they think I'm not in it enough. I'm not doing it right or something is wrong with me, but really it is a unique state. Let's say it happens once every two weeks, once every month, and then it doesn't always hit you in the moment you can ride the wave. What do you do to try to give yourself space to actually get in the flow? Brea: Yeah. Yeah. I think this is such an interesting question. So I think back to the times when there's an opportunity for me to go jam with some friends. I clear that night. I'm not back to back, you know, running from thing to thing and squishing that in like I might during the workday, you know? So it's just, it's an interesting thought experiment. Are there opportunities in my workday to approach it like the off hours instead of just crunching things back to back? Can I just clear some space and say, you know what, I'm just going to block off these several hours so that I have freedom to flow? Lisa: Ooh, yeah, freedom to flow is a key piece of how to get in flow. Let's just do the everyday work. What are things you do to get yourself closer to flow state when you really need to be in that energy or you would love to be in that energy of flow? Brea: Yeah. Well, I think if I know that the upcoming task or meeting or opportunity, whatever is on the calendar, if I know that it's going to be a flow experience, I know that I'm excited for it. I know I'm going to enjoy it. that there's going to be excellence there in all the things, all the clues to talent, then I want to do whatever I can to prepare myself for that, to set myself up for excellence. So, it's time blocking before and after to get all my ducks in a row. I'm a lot of a planner and also a lot of a go with the flow. I call this planning to be spontaneous. You know, like get all the things that I think I might need, create the environment. You know, maybe it's lighting a candle. Maybe it's turning on. I have an epic movie soundtrack playlist that is perfect for helping my brain focus because there are no words. And with the Communication strength, I get so distracted by words, you know, like that will take me to a totally different place of flow that I don't need to be if I'm editing a podcast, you know. No lyrics allowed. No lyrics allowed. But I need that energy. You know, I need the epic soundtrack is a lot different than classical music, which I love. Or I listen to Gregorian chant, you know, like I'm a weird Catholic homeschooler, you know, so those have their place. But the epic movie soundtrack is perfect for when I want to get into admin flow. But Lisa, I'm going to throw it back to you because I don't know that we define flow in the same way because even saying that out loud, I'm like, admin flow? Like it's just… The best that I can do is to light a candle, to open up the windows, let some fresh air in, but it's not real flow. Lisa: Yes. It's this segment where we're doing the side-by-side. How to get in flow…real flow versus fake flow. Fake flow isn't the greatest terminology, but it is kind of what it is. We're trying to borrow elements from real flow into things that we actually wouldn't get into true flow on. So yes, glad you acknowledge that. Okay. A friend of mine, Col Maggs, he's a fellow strengths coach. So shout out to Col. Brea: Yeah. Hi Col. Lisa: Yeah, he was thinking about how to get in flow versus how to get in focus are really different because you might have the ability to have focused energy on a task or many tasks and we Make ourselves get in that state because we need to get stuff done and that happens on the regular that probably happens Every day at least for a little smidge of time. Yeah, but and that is an element of flow. I think you have to have focused energy inside of flow, but flow is more. It's that effortless, I lost track of time, often in a creative zone. And it's a wave that comes that you can really ride if you'll allow it. So yeah, you're very much a vibe scout, like with your candles and the things that you do in all your environments. That's cool. And I think for some people, it happens when they're journaling. For some people, it happens with morning pages. Sometimes it needs a little stream of consciousness to get some juices flowing at the beginning, but sometimes the brainstorm just starts dumping instantly. For me, I will do a little bit more like brainless tasks for the first 15 minutes to get into task mode, because that's not my favorite mode, and I kind of need to shift into that. That's very different from other people who are like, eat that frog first or do the most important thing. Just get it right out of the way, straight up. I will just stare at my screen. So I will do warmup activities. I will also focus on what I don't do. So I love to be efficient. I think Maximizer, Strategic, I have a lot of talent themes that are very much into efficiency. So I'll try to cram in things like, ooh, I have a five-minute slice of time. I'm going to leave messages for people. I'm going to have a podcast playing so that I can be learning on this next topic I'm working on. and I overcram my brain, it's kind of overstimulation. And that does not put me in an environment where I can be in that flow or fake flow. I think that's a big one for me as well. It's what I'm not doing. But I think to switch gears off of fake flow, we should compare real flow. What is a flow state? What is effortlessness? Where do you lose track of time? Let's go over to that side. What does that look like for you? How do you get into it? How do you come out of it? What does it feel like for you? How do you get into real flow? Brea: Yeah, I wish you could see me. My whole body posture just changed. I'm smiling from ear to ear now. This idea of real flow is so good. This is one of the main reasons why I do strengths. Why we're talking about clues to talent, because if you can clue into your talent, then real flow is possible. It's the best. Isn't it the best? Yes. I forgot the question because I just was like so excited to talk about it. The thing about flow that I love the most is that when it's real, when it's authentic, when it's truly flow, it's not manipulated. It's not something you have to strive for. It happens. It's natural. You don't have to try to get into flow. It will just happen. And so I think it's important to think about how we can generate more opportunities for us to be in flow. I think that's a very important conversation. And also, it's important for us to be more intentionally aware of when this might be happening or when we might see glimpses of this happening in our everyday life so that we can get more of it because it is happening. Flow can happen when I'm editing a podcast. I get into that zone of communication and crafting the message and refining our communication in the recording and I can slip into that place Lisa: Yeah, and I love that you brought that up. When you lose track of time, when you lose yourself, I can get into flow state easily when I'm making something. And that could be anything from songwriting to making a deck for a presentation. But if I'm making it and it's just a new thing that didn't exist before…those are elements where I can really get into it. I also notice I can't force them very well I can tell when I'm making myself do the task or melt making myself put in practice and the difference in the days when I Am just like oh I could do this all day long I could do this for seven hours and not realize all that time has ticked by and I I don't know if you're as keenly aware when you're in it, but I tend to notice, oh, I was just in flow when it's over and I pull my head up and I'm like, whoa, six hours just went by. I was just in flow. Brea: That's right. Yeah. I have to catch myself when I'm facilitating workshops. where I'm totally in flow. My energy is off the charts. There's so much adrenaline coursing through my veins to probably the point of being unhealthy, you know, for my body to sustain that much adrenaline for so long. But it feels so amazing. And because it is such a flow state for me, it's almost like the flow is taking over me. I kind of have to control the flow. Lisa: I could see that because if you're doing something like you're in a workshop and you forgot you didn't give them a break for three hours and they just really need to go to the bathroom right now or you're not as tuned into them because you're so lost in the moment, you lost the timing that you wanted to use for a given number of exercises. I could see that being a thing. And also, I think there's something to the lead-in. At least for me, this is very important. Even though I may not know that I'm about to get in flow, I can't say for sure it's about to happen because it's a whole orchestration of things. So even though the episode is about how to get in flow, there are probably nuances to it for me that are more like how to set yourself up for the opportunity for it to happen. Because some days it just doesn't happen. For example, if I'm going in to lead a retreat for strengths with a group, I need to make sure there's adequate time blocked off before and after that everything is prepared and settled that I don't feel frazzled in any way about the logistics or where to show up and I mean this could be something as tactical as driving by the venue the night before so that I've laid my eyes on it and I know what building I'm headed toward Those are things I do to make sure I can be in the right state of mind for them and be of total service to them the next day. And then the day of, getting up an extra hour early so that I can have some intentions and just get myself in the space. · How, how do I want to show up for them? · What environment do I want to create? · What are my hopes for them and what they'll experience? And really getting my mind oriented to how I can be of service to them instead of hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. Oops, room service didn't show up. Oh, I'm running late. Oh, the Uber didn't come. You know, those kinds of distractions are bound to harsh the flow – to make that thing not happen as easily or as naturally or might even block it. So I think in the notion of how to get in flow for me, it's a lot about how did you set yourself up for the opportunity for it to happen and then you can't force it to happen. It may or may not. Brea: Yeah, I think it's so, it's just so fun to listen to you describe your flow and it's different than mine and it's different for the listeners based on our talents, right? I can be a planner too in certain situations, but that usually doesn't feel like the flow. It's like I'm preparing for the flow. But I think that's so key. Again, why we're talking about all of these clues to talent is because if you can think about your talents and how do they get into flow, That's really what you need to do. You know, listen to us. That's fine. Thank you. Thank you for listening. But I hope that you take these a step further. And instead of just trying to replicate what works for us, think about what works for you through your talents. Lisa: Yeah. And if I add on to what you said, I think that there's a key element of how to get in flow and the moment when you're actually trying to get in it right now. And I think that is presence. And I say that to bring up a contrast between you and me. So I think I have fewer talent themes that put me easily in presence, the right here, right now with people. I mean, you lead through Connectedness and things that are that is what they are. They're here, they're in the moment with the person. So I have a lot of thinking themes that are thinking about thinking and about where we're headed and how to make that happen. And I can really be in my logic brain And that is not flow. I am not in flow when I'm in my logic brain. And I have to do that planning stuff I was talking about in order to put myself in an environment so I can then release it, let that go, and be there with them. And then I can turn on things like individualization and say, ooh, I'm curious about you. Let's talk about how this one applies to you. I can ask them really pointed questions about what's going on based on things they just said in the moment. But my brain won't go there. It won't let go of the logic stuff if I haven't prepared myself so that it can settle down and hang out in the background. So I think that's another element. I don't know how that strikes you, but for me, my talents aren't as present. And I think those make me fight to get into flow. Brea: Yeah, that's so… Actually, I think it's really… I'm really self-aware and really insightful. Insight. Insightful insight. Lisa: Like, okay, have you ever read Deep Work from Cal Newport? Brea: I don't think I have. Lisa: He doesn't specifically talk about it as “flow” but it is pretty much that topic. But he goes really extreme and he talks about this thing that He calls it, I believe he calls it monastic work, literally like monastery or monk kind of work, where he is gone from the world. It is like, “I am in my zone and it has boundaries and you can't get in. I'm doing my monk work today for the next eight hours.” That is so difficult for me to imagine being gone for huge chunks of time. He talks about it long-term. weeks at a time or more. I can block out a day and I do do that. For example, if I need to create something for an event, I will block an entire day so that I don't have to get on calls that interrupt it because that will totally interrupt my flow and just jolt me right out of it and I can't get back. The only thing I'm going to be that day is a thinker or a tactical person. It's not going to be like the flowing creative. I can take little moments like that and the moments might be a full...
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Discovering Strengths at Home
09/29/2024
Discovering Strengths at Home
Whether on a trip to Vegas, family reunion, or navigating the mountain’s edge, our strengths are there every step of the way. The question is, are they guiding, protecting, and supporting you? Or are they getting in the way, causing conflict and confusion? In today's episode, we dive into the fascinating world of applying our strengths beyond the workplace. You’ll hear us share some hilarious and relatable stories about how recognizing and celebrating each other's strengths can help you move from frustration to fascination, transforming everyday interactions into opportunities for connection and appreciation. If you're dealing with a frustrating situation using strengths at home, or just want to bring a little more joy into your relationships, this episode is packed with insights and tips to help you embrace your strengths in every aspect of life! 🌟 Work With Us to Discover Your Strengths at Home BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on Strengths at Home Life Beyond Work: It's easy to get caught up in our professional identities, but we are whole beings with lives outside of our jobs. Our strengths don't just apply to our work; they can enrich our family interactions, friendships, and personal experiences. Recognizing that we can apply our strengths in all areas of life opens up new opportunities for connection and understanding. Appreciation Over Frustration: Moments of frustration can be transformed into appreciation by understanding each other's strengths. Instead of reacting negatively, taking a moment to pause and appreciate the unique talents of those around us can lead to healthier communication and stronger relationships. This shift in perspective can be a game-changer in how we interact with our loved ones. Communication is Key: The assessment is just the beginning. It’s crucial to have open conversations about our strengths and how they show up in our daily lives. By discussing our strengths with family and friends, we can avoid misunderstandings and create a more supportive environment. This dialogue allows us to celebrate our differences and work together more effectively, whether planning a trip or navigating daily challenges. Celebrate Strengths Together: Engaging in activities that highlight and celebrate each other's strengths—like family reunions with strength-themed t-shirts—can foster a sense of unity and appreciation within families. Take Action as You Apply Strengths at Home ● Apply Strengths in Everyday Life: Reflect on how you can use your strengths outside of work, particularly in family and personal relationships. Consider moments of frustration and think about how your strengths can help you navigate those situations. ● Communicate Openly About Strengths: Have conversations with family and friends about your respective strengths. Discuss how these strengths manifest in daily life and how they can complement each other, enhancing collaboration and reducing conflict. ● Practice Appreciation: When conflicts arise, take a moment to pause and appreciate the other person's strengths instead of reacting negatively. This shift in perspective can lead to more constructive conversations and a better understanding of each other. ● Engage in Strengths Coaching: Consider seeking coaching for yourself or your family to better understand and leverage strengths in your relationships. This can be done individually or as a group to foster a deeper appreciation of each other's talents. Join us as we explore these themes and more! Let’s embrace our strengths in the wild and see how they can transform our relationships. 🎧✨ Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript on Using Your Strengths at Home Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea: I'm Brea. Lisa: And today's topic is Strengths in the Wild. Brea: I feel like we need some kind of like epic like MGM Grand. Lisa: A lot of deep reverb on that. Yeah. Strengths in the wild. Yeah. Let's talk about beyond work – strengths at home. We always talk about the workplace. We have a lot of clients that we work with in the workplace, but you know what is interesting about people who work and people who don't? Brea: What's that? Lisa: They both have lives outside of work. Brea: Stop it. What? People don't just work every hour of every day. I mean, what are you talking about? Lisa: There is life outside of work and there's an opportunity to apply strengths outside of work and especially, let's think family time. I hear people talk about my significant others getting on my nerves. Oh, I'm in a fight with my mother-in-law. Oh, my kid has been just insufferable this week. Yes. Those are also things you could apply your strengths to. Brea: Come on! Oh, I love this. So what you're saying is there's not just a work me and a home me. There's an all of me, all the time, like who I am as all the things, all the time. Yeah, okay. Lisa: Pretty much. And I know we've both said it before, maybe every single time we've ever delivered a workshop in the workplace, when we've been like, hey, this report, it's not just about work. We are one whole being. This applies strengths at home - this applies in all the places, but we get really focused on workplace often. So we're dedicating this episode to strengths beyond the workplace. Brea: And this is one of the reasons why strengths is the best assessment out there. In my opinion, I love it so much because so many of the other assessments are focused on just the workplace. And even though Strengths was designed just for the workplace. I mean, it does such a good job of really getting to the core of not who we are as human beings. It's not our identity, but but how we show up, how we work, how we live, how we think, how we feel, how we act. It's all those patterns that are just so central to how we move throughout the world, you know. So let's dive in. Lisa: Well, I have the perfect example about using strengths at home. And I don't know if this is a great thing for me to do or not. I'm tattletaling on my parents. Brea: Well, it's all from a place of love, you know? Lisa: It is. Okay, so they took their CliftonStrengths assessments recently and came to visit. And as they arrived at my house, they were squabbling with each other. And what happened was they came up, my driveway is on a mountain and the parking can be a little bit, a little bit precarious. They had just taken a two day road trip and had done all kinds of driving. And my dad was trying to navigate this truck, pulling up. There are all these different trailers in a tight space, so he didn't want to hit the nose of one of the trailers. So apparently he had asked my mom, can you get out and tell me how close I am? Brea: Yeah, sure. Lisa: And maybe road-weary, she made a snide response. Oh no. Like, how long have you been driving? 70-something years? And he said, you are the worst wife. Brea: Oh my gosh! Dad! Come on! Lisa: He said, I've been driving for two days and I haven't asked for any help. And he asked one little thing and she made fun of him for not being able to drive. Brea: Oh my gosh. Lisa: So this created a whole fight. So we talked about it through the lens of strengths. And when you're having those moments, and this would go for either of them, if they looked at this as appreciation instead of being annoyed with each other what would it have looked like. Let's just give a for example and now this is my words not not theirs but if she had said what is it about him that really wants to get the extra eye on this well one he wants to make sure he's not falling off the mountain because you truly could fall down a switchback. I mean reasonable. He leads through deliberative. Risk manager. Brea: I was just going to say, where's the deliberative? Number one. It is number one. What's the absolute worst thing that could happen right now? We could literally fall off the side of the mountain and die. Okay, great. Don't want to do that. Lisa: Okay. How about also number two, responsibility. Brea: I was just going to ask, where's his responsibility, right? I got to do it right. Lisa: I'm going to do it right. I don't want to dent my truck. I don't want to move their trailer. I don't want all of these things that you would do if you were being responsible about showing up to this tight space. Also, am I parked appropriately and not too crooked because someone else is about to come up the driveway and I don't want to block them in. There needs to be turnaround space. Yes. You know how it is. If you're frustrated with somebody, do you take a 60 second pause before you answer so that you can be in fascination and appreciation? No, often we don't. We make a little comment and it offends someone. And if there was a little bit of pause there, she could have appreciated. Why? he was asking for this extra help. And then instead of him saying, you're the worst one. Brea: Which is obviously not true because they have been married for so long. Lisa: Well over 50 years. So yes, then he could have been looking from her perspective…what she might have cared about in that moment. And we had a great conversation over the next few days about appreciating each other's talents. One we all had in common, the three of us, is Strategic. So we talked a lot about what that looks like. And it looked very different on each of us, because you can imagine if my strategic is mixed with focus and activator, but my dad's is mixed with Deliberative, making a quick decision may not look the same. He doesn't make quick decisions. He can see all the options really quickly, but he wants time to think on them. So we talked about how sometimes we have these similarities, but then in the daily life, it shows up. really differently on a person. And then sometimes you have opposites, like his deliberative is number one, it's at my bottom, it's at my mom's bottom. So being able to see some of those areas where they could cause total conflict, but they could also be amazing, because if you don't want to spend your headspace in that area, then how cool that your home teammate is, and now you don't have to. Brea: Totally. I've learned it the hard way, but it's so important to have that perspective, especially when big life decisions are happening. If that's a blind spot that you know that you have and it matters, partner up with someone. Lisa: Yeah. I mean, we're talking about everyday strengths at home. This is totally something my husband does as well. He walked around the house and saw that the toilet hoses were made of plastic instead of the braided stainless or whatever the good ones are made out of. Oh no. And came out and said- Of course he just noticed that. Brea: Yes. He's just walking around and he just sees it because of his talent. Lisa: Yes. And when he brings it up I'm like, is there a leak? What brought this to your attention? And he's like, no, because these are the things you have to catch so that you don't have an insurance claim. So you don't. That's right. That doesn't happen. Yes. And I'm thinking, never, literally never would I be examining behind a toilet unless there was water under my feet. And this is beautiful. I get the benefit of now having all the hoses replaced and no insurance claims. Brea: And really you get the benefit of there never being water under your feet, right? Like that won't happen because he's done the work. Yeah. Lisa: Yeah. I think it's a really good use of strengths at home because these are the exact things that could cause conflict in relationships, but also they're the exact things that make you so valuable to each other and they're so easy to appreciate if you're not in the moment of a conflict, but you're just in a moment of thinking about what you appreciate or where you need someone to complete you. Right, right. Brea: Well, don't get me started on that, but that can be another podcast, the whole you complete me thing. But here's what I think is super interesting is the idea of frustration and the connection to talents. I think two things come to mind. Number one, when we feel frustrated, it might be coming from someone else's talents. We can feel frustrated by the way that other people act, right? We can also feel frustrated when our talents are not being seen, heard, met, fed. When our talents are not able to do what they're meant to do, that can feel very frustrating to us. Sometimes it's what we have and sometimes it's what we don't have. Like someone else is deliberative, being number one when it's my 34. That can feel really frustrating to me because I'm like, I don't think like that. So the frustration that we feel can clue us into the talents of others and to our own talents. Lisa: Well, another example just popped in my head. Shout out to my bestie, Christine. We went to Vegas this summer to go see the Beatles love show before it closed out. And so fun. Yeah, it was so fun. And we really got to explore our strengths just in an everyday-life-strengths in the wild. We both lead through Individualization in our top five. An interesting thing there is we're both very tuned into what the other person would want. And it almost kept us from getting some cool progress. So she leads through a ranger and that one is not high for me. We both like to be organized. I'm definitely a planner, but she's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. If you talk about a thing, it can be just done. And she was hesitating to do things like suggest hotel and where the seats would be and all of these things you could optimize to get all the tickets purchased and all the things done. Finally, we started talking about it through strengths. And she's like, Yeah, if you're down, I can just get it all done. And I was like, Yes. And when anything automatically happens, and I don't have to do the work, I think it's the most exciting thing ever, even if it would have been my third pick for a hotel, even if it would have been my fourth best seat, which was not the case. But I was just so stoked that it was getting done and getting done so quickly. And all I had to do was log it in the calendar. I thought that was the coolest thing ever. But we actually had to have the conversation. because she was excited to get it done. And I was excited to have her get it done. But I didn't want to abuse the relationship and put it on her because for me, that feels like a ton of work to do all of that coordinating of those things… the flight, the hotel, and all of that. So we had this cool strengths conversation where it felt good to her to knock it out, get it done. And then it felt good to me that it was done. It felt so smooth. And she got energized by doing that. And I got energized by her doing that. Brea: Gosh, it's such a good example because how many times, spoiler, every day, all the time, how many times do we project our own biases onto other people? We think, oh, because this is hard for me, it's gonna be hard for her, so I don't wanna subject her to that. And gosh, it's just such a gift when we have this language of strengths because it gives us the permission to just show up in our strength and to say go for it, like you do your thing and I'll do my thing and together we're all stronger. I love that. Lisa: And also I think it brings out this good example of how you do often have to talk about it out loud with a person in your family or your friend. You have to, yes. Yeah, because she assumed, actually, because individualization, she thought I would want more say. She thought I would want to have a little bit more control or input over what the trip looked like, and I didn't. I didn't need that at all. It was magical that I didn't have to worry about that. So just think about that. She could have been using her individualization strength to honor that I had input and I would have liked that less. And that is exactly what would have happened if we hadn't talked about it. Brea: And this is such a good point that the assessment is just the beginning. How many times have we said that? We can't put people in boxes. I can't look in my magic crystal ball and say, well, because you have this profile, I know exactly how you're going to respond or what you're going to want. It's the beginning of the conversation, right? We have to have communication with each other and communication with ourselves as to say, what is this assessment suggesting that I look into? Can I dig a little bit deeper? Um, it's not, oh, it's just, it's not prescriptive like other assessments that are out there. It doesn't put you in a box. It really opens so much more room for you to grow, to grow in relationship with others and appreciation for others and appreciation and relationship with yourself too. Lisa: Yeah. So much of what happens with strengths comes on the inside motivations, not like this prescription that says you will totally behave this way and this is what this one looks like. You could name an action and we could probably give you three to ten different CliftonStrengths that might describe why someone would be motivated toward that kind of action because of a strength. That's why the conversation is so important. Brea: Yes, don't put labels on people. Strengths are not labels, right? This is an opportunity to show up and have those conversations and I just think that's so important when we are having challenging conversations. There's a difference when we say a talent theme name versus the person's name, right? It really changes the conversation to be able to to separate someone's action or something that we're observing that we want to talk about, to separate that from the person themselves is, it's just, it's such a gift. Lisa: It's such a gift. You're making me think of one more of my best buds, Anne. She gives this example of a code word they've come up with, and it's Penelope. And they'll be like, Penelope! So how much nicer would it be if she's in the middle of something and he says, Penelope, instead of, you're being really bossy right now. That comes across totally differently and keeps you from being defensive. And I think those kind of code words and or open conversations come out from these strengths discussions with family, friends, relatives, in ways that you never would have if you only kept your strengths to the workplace. Brea: Yes, having 34 words help us move from frustration to fascination really quickly. If you understand what each of the 34 talent themes are, or at least the top five or the top 10 of the person that you're in communication...
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Rethinking Time Management
09/22/2024
Rethinking Time Management
"Where did the time go?" "If only I had more time!" If you're looking for productivity hacks or time management tips – this episode is for you. We've all been there. We believe time is our most valuable resource. Unfortunately, this often leads to overwhelm and guilt when our expectations don't match reality. We don't accomplish as much as we thought we would, our "to do" list keeps growing, and discouragement creeps in. What if there was more to time management than meets the eye? Is time truly our most valuable resource? Listen in as we rethink time management. 🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on Time Management, Energy Management, and Productivity Energy vs. Time: We often fall into the trap of thinking that if we just had more time, we could accomplish everything on our to-do list. However, as we discussed, even with the same 24 hours in a day, our energy levels can significantly impact our productivity. When we're feeling drained or unwell, even the simplest tasks can feel overwhelming. Instead of solely focusing on time management, we should prioritize managing our energy levels to maximize our effectiveness. Quality Over Quantity: It's not just about how much time we have; it's about how we use that time. When we're in a state of flow and high energy, we can accomplish tasks in a fraction of the time it would normally take. We encourage listeners to recognize when they're in that productive state and to allow themselves the flexibility to dive deep into tasks that energize them, rather than sticking rigidly to a time-blocked schedule. Know Your Energy Drains and Fuels: Understanding what drains your energy and what fuels it is crucial. We discussed the importance of being aware of our strengths and how working within those strengths can help us maintain our energy levels throughout the day. By identifying tasks that energize us and scheduling them during our peak energy times, we can create a more productive and fulfilling workday. Take Action as You Rethink Time Management ● Assess Your Energy Levels: Regularly check in with yourself to determine your current energy levels. If youAsk yourself, "Given my energy level, what is the best use of my time?" ● Identify Energy Drains and Fuels: Make a list of tasks or activities that drain your energy and those that fuel you. Schedule draining tasks during times when your energy is naturally higher, and plan to engage in energizing activities when you feel low.. ● Create Flexible Time Blocks: While time blocking can be effective, allow for flexibility in your schedule. If you find yourself in a productive flow, consider extending the time for that task instead of sticking rigidly to your planned blocks. ● Leverage Your Strengths: Identify your strengths and find ways to incorporate them into your daily tasks. Engaging in work that aligns with your strengths can help maintain your energy levels and enhance productivity. ● Further Reading: Check out the book by Dr. Clifton to learn more about the Five Clues to Talent. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript on Rethinking Time Management Lisa: Hey, I'm Lisa. Brea And I'm Brea. Lisa And today's topic is time and energy. More specifically, this question. Is your time your most valuable resource? What say you, Brea? Brea No, absolutely not. Lisa I asked you knowing your answer. ;-) Brea Also, hi everybody. How's it going? Here's the thing. I'm going to tell you how I really feel about time management because I feel passionately about this. I hear it all the time from people. Time is your most valuable resource. I just don't think it's true. I just don't think it's true. Lisa You know, I'm guilty of even feeling time management or perceiving it and thinking those thoughts where I'll be like, Oh, I wish I had more time. Oh, I'm out of time. Oh, there's I just need more time. Or I'm so overwhelmed. If I just had more hours, that feels like the solution is time. And if I asked myself the question philosophically, like we're doing on this podcast, I would tell myself, It's not. There are better ways to manage because ultimately, we're talking about time management, energy management, productivity, goal management. Those are usually the topics that surround this conversation about time. It feels like a time management thing. And it feels like a solution for overwhelm is to magically get more hours. Brea Yes, I think we all fall into that trap of thinking that we need more time. If I only had more time, then I could fill in the blank. But Beyonce only has 24 hours a day. The president only has 24 hours a day. We all only have 24 hours a day. When you're sick, especially when you're sick as an entrepreneur, an hour is very, very valuable resource. Yes. But if you're sick and you don't have the energy to maximize that hour, that is such a huge detriment. Lisa I could just make a proof point with your energy management point. I've been sick lately and this sinus infection cold something or other has been getting me down. And I about, you know, two to three o'clock every day, I am getting extremely tired where I feel like I need to go to bed for the evening. I'm like, oh, don't take my hours. I need more hours. It absolutely proves your point. What is the problem when this is happening at two or three o'clock? I have no energy. And when I have no energy, everything moves at a different pace. And it is like Time is well, it's sort of like it's flying by because I don't have it to work. But the truth is it's just energy if I had high energy and I were totally in flow I could get a ton accomplished and I would look up and be like, whoa I didn't know six hours passed by and I just accomplished the 40 things on my list But in when my energy is low or off it just brings this perception of time. That's totally different. It's like, oh, I wish I had more time or time feels so scarce. But how is it for you as far as time and energy and the way they might play with each other? Brea It's interesting to think about how just about how energy affects the quality of our time, right? Not just in managing our time well, but in how we approach that. So if we're in the flow, like you said, it's easy to lose track of time. That could also be a detriment to us though. If time management is our goal, right? If we lose track of time, then we're not really managing our time very well. Lisa Right? Brea So, yeah. So there's an element of, like, it's good when we've got a lot of energy, we can maximize our time, but only if we pair that with intentionality and good time management skills or whatever. So it's not just as simple as saying, you know, there's one solution. Lisa Yeah. Oh, quality. You just hit on the number one item. But then when you said flow, but what if you disrupted your flow because you were so intent on time management, and that you had only blocked 20 minutes for a given thing, that you disrupted the energy that you had for something, like sometimes it's actually great to clear your calendar and say, I am so in the flow and my energy is so directed positively toward this thing right now that I'm just going to give it the next eight hours because it's more than I could accomplish in six days combined. Because sometimes you're just feeling it. And when you are, you're riding your energy management wave intelligently. And that is a way better way to look at productivity than totally time management. Yeah. Oh, so smart. Brea Well, you know, that's why they pay me the big bucks. Come on. Here's the thing about paying attention to the quality as well. When we don't have the energy, when we're feeling sick, when our energy is lower, we can get in our head about that, right? So our quality of time comes down, our productivity is lessened, it's challenged, because the whole time that we're doing the thing, we're thinking, oh my gosh, I just really don't feel good. Just go take a nap, just go take a nap, okay? Do whatever you need to do, Because otherwise, we're getting in our own way. And so I think when we feel better, we do better, right? Isn't that what we always say? Lisa Yeah, there's the Brea-ism right there. And I think it makes your point really well to the energy management, time management conversation. Because if I were thinking through the lens of time management, which I am guilty of having done in these last days of feeling like this, I am like, ugh, I just need to get through two hours of work to get the bare minimum accomplished to answer customers' questions or whatever. But actually, if I would stop and think of energy management, I would go take the nap. And then maybe 30 minutes later, I would have rejuvenated myself so that I could get three, four more hours of time where I'm feeling decent, and my brain's working better. And it is always a worthy thing to stop and look at and say, am I only managing time? What if I managed energy? What would it look like right now? And if you're aiming toward a certain goal, certain productivity, or just literally, like, what are those four critical things that have to get done? If you ask yourself, I look at this through the energy management lens, what would happen right now? You're gonna have solutions that you wouldn't otherwise. Brea So this is so, so interesting what you're bringing up. You know, the coach in me asks the question, well, why do you think you need two hours to do these things? And I'm going to do the non-coach thing and I'm going to answer my own question. I think it's probably because in the past, when you've been at full health, It has taken you about two hours. You know, you know about the time that it takes to do the emails or whatever it is that you need to do for your customers, but you're not in good health. you're not the same as you were yesterday or, you know, are usually. And so it might actually take longer. So are we expecting things of ourselves when when we're not setting ourselves up for success by filling our energy tank? Right. We're setting us up to fail because we're expecting things of ourselves that we can't deliver and we know we can't deliver. But we're allowing the past to dictate now. And it's just so sad. Why do we do that to ourselves? Lisa This is so true. I was feeling guilty yesterday for the lack of productivity and it's exactly what you just said. I have an expectation of myself of what it could take, should take, normally takes, and it isn't taking that. And then I am feeling guilty because I'm not getting it out in the time that I expected. Now I'm not meeting my own expectations. And I always talk to people about conflict where the lack of alignment with expectations is what is a root of conflict. And now you just explained it in a way where it's like, yes, this is the conflict you're having inside of your brain with yourself because you're not meeting your own expectations. Brea Totally. And I think it stems from the days when I know I've worked in positions where I'm compensated on an hourly rate, right? I have to account for my time because that's how I get paid is by the hour. Lisa Oh, interesting thought. Like a root. Like goes back to the first jobs you have often are hourly and therefore you train yourself in this way from the beginning. Brea Right. I mean, I have not worked an hourly job, you know, or been paid an hourly rate for a long time. But there is, I think, still that root in many of us that it should only take one hour or it should only take two hours because we we have to move fast. You know, we have to get so many things done. We have to, like, fill our hours. You know, Lisa, I know this about you. I know that you try to work a three-day work week. as much as you can. And that is so amazing. And so I can imagine it would feel very challenging to see, gosh, I just can't work as fast or I can't work at my capacity that I normally do because you have such a limited number of hours that you're working anyway, right? Lisa Yeah, not to mention, if you take what you just said and then add on the fact that if you are ill, Adding each of those three days and turning them into 12-day work, 12-hour work days is not going to happen because your body is going to say, no, thanks. And then also that I am a time blocker. My time management style is time blocking. And I typically account for every waking hour of my day with things on my calendar blocked out, usually three weeks in advance, what I'm doing every hour of every day, not on the weekends, but I block out big chunks of time for things. Like if we're going on a camping trip like we are this weekend, it's not going to break down the activities inside of it, but it is one giant chunk already taken. So when I manage my time like that, it doesn't give me a lot of movement with energy flow. If I need double the amount of hours for something, I've kind of put myself in a box for those next two or three weeks where my time is already accounted for. So then I have to go through those future couple of weeks and push things that are non-critical. And then I get sad that I'm doing that. So that's the reality of how it shows up for me. Brea Yes. Yeah, so, okay, so this is all great in theory, you know, we're shining some light on some areas where we can improve. Where do we go from here? What are the answers? Lisa Well, some of it is just a realistic question, like the one you answered. Like, even if I said to myself, given the energy I have, or am likely to have today, what is the best use of this time? That's one question I asked myself yesterday and reprioritize the order in which I was doing things. So it was kind of like energy management in a way that was Hey, I've been getting really tired at 3 p.m. So, well, it's noon. I have three hours left. What is most critical? And what can I do while I'm riding this energy wave? So, that's one thing I would offer. Another one would be looking at drains. Like, we've talked a million times about our strengths and weaknesses theories here where, If you're working out of your strengths, they make you feel stronger. If you're working out of your weaknesses, they weaken you. And that corresponds with energy. Strengths work feels strong and energetic. Weakness area work feels weak. weak and de-energizing. So if you find things that are, that you're procrastinating, that you don't want to do, noticing those and not trying to do them when high energy is called for. Brea Yep, I love it. So what is the best use of this time? I think that's such a great question, and I love this question because it's so simple. It aligns with the way that we typically approach time management, right? We say, what is the outcome, right? What am I trying to do? And then how do I best use my time to make sure that I get there, right? That I can accomplish the task. So what if we think about our energy in the same way where we say, okay, what is the outcome that I'm looking for? And where's my energy level right now? So what's the best use of this time? not just from a productivity time, but from a time perspective, but from an energy perspective as well. I think adding that lens is so key. Great. And then what are your energy drains? If you're feeling drained, being aware of that, and then also being aware of what fuels you so that you can either fill up your energy before you go into a draining task or a draining time of day, right? If you know that you know, come three o'clock, you're tapping out, then either plan to be tapped out and go to the gym, right, or go do something that fuels you. But definitely, if you know that you're drained at three o'clock, why are we scheduling meetings or saving our boring, like, emails and admins for that time? Like, That's a misalignment of managing our energy and managing our time, right? Lisa So there's another kind of physical element to it as well. If I can work outside and sit outside, I'll have more energy than being under LED lights inside of an office space. So a lot of those physical elements can come into play too. Brea Totally. So now you're tapping into different types of energy, different sources of energy, right? are physical, are spiritual, are intellectual, relational, and emotional. Those are all five areas where we can gain and drain and it's important to be paying attention to all of them. I mean, this is Lead Through Strengths podcast. We are talking about, you know, strengths and talent. And the reason that we're talking about energy management through that lens is because our talent clues us in to how we are energized or how our energy is drained. And so if you can stay plugged in to your talents all day, then you have that juice. You're plugging into your talents, even in times where the task itself might be draining, or the person that you're with is draining for you, or the environment, the place that you're in is draining for you. If you can plug into your talents, then the juice is still flowing. Even if it's draining faster, it still is plugged in, so it'll drain a little bit slower. And I think that's a huge mindset shift when it comes to how we look at energy, because most of the time we wake up in the morning, we expect that our little energy batteries are going to be full because we've just slept. I don't know about you, I don't always wake up with a full battery. But even if we did, we kind of walk through life thinking we'll wake up full and then we just allow ourselves to drain all day. And then we sleep and fill up again and then we do it all over. But why? When we can stay plugged in to the source of our energy. And that's what knowing our strengths helps us do. Lisa Mm hmm. I think that's a beautiful way to wrap it up. I mean, you brought all of those elements of energy into focus for people that they probably haven't thought of in ages. So I think that tees up perfectly if they want to work with you and explore more of those kind of elements of their energy. How would someone coach with you? Brea I'd love to coach with you. I'd also love to share my energy. I think that's another thing about strengths is that when we are living from our places of strength, we are energizing to others. All the hot coals, they burn hotter when they're together in the fire. So come to my website, www.brearoper.com. Schedule a call. Lisa Beautiful. And if you'd like to work with me, Lisa, go over to www.leadthroughstrengths.com and you can go right to the Get Coached link and book a session there. All right, I'll go off and hopefully you can leave this podcast...
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You're So Good At That
09/15/2024
You're So Good At That
You’re So Good At That Receiving compliments is difficult for most of us. But what if I told you compliments could be clues to your greatest talents? Areas where you see natural glimpses of excellence are actually your greatest areas of potential. So, the next time you hear someone say, "You're so good at that!" or “You’re a rock star!”, stand a little taller. Let your strengths shine in the spotlight! In this episode we explore: ● how easy it is to overlook our own strengths because we’re so close to them. ● the difference between skills and talents ● the importance of feedback So, get ready to embrace your inner rock star! It’s time to let your strengths shine.🌟 Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Skills and Talents are not the same. Understand that skills can be learned and practiced, while talents are innate. You’ve either got it, or you don’t. Reflect on whether you enjoy what you’re good at, as this can help you identify true talents. Compliments can be clues to talent. Pay attention to the compliments you’ve received, awards you’ve won, and times people have asked for your help with something. These moments of recognition and praise are shining a light on your areas of excellence. Pay attention and lean into your greatest areas of potential for greatness. Embrace Feedback: Don’t shy away from asking others what you’re good at. Feedback can be a powerful tool for self-discovery and can help you see strengths that you may not recognize in yourself. Take Action ● Identify Your Strengths: Reflect on moments when people have complimented you with phrases like "You're so good at that." Take note of these instances as clues to your talents and strengths. ● Explore Your Skills vs. Talents: Consider the difference between skills and talents in your own life. Ask yourself if you enjoy the activities that people recognize you for, and whether they energize you or feel like a chore. ● Seek Feedback: Don’t hesitate to ask colleagues, friends, or family for feedback on what they think you excel at. Use this feedback to gain insights into your strengths. ● Utilize Resources: Visit to access a list of potential strengths and talents. Look for items that resonate with you and explore how you can incorporate them into your life or work. ● Consider Job Shaping: If you find that people frequently ask for your help in a specific area that you enjoy, discuss with your manager the possibility of incorporating more of that work into your role. This can help align your job with your strengths and passions. ● S.T.O.P.: When faced with tasks that drain your energy, consider the STOP method: Stop, Trade, Offer it up, or Partner. This can help you manage your workload while still contributing effectively. ● Further Reading: Check out the book by Dr. Clifton to learn more about the Five Clues to Talent, including the topic of this podcast: Excellence. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa: Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea I'm Brea. Lisa And today's topic is, you're so good at that. Brea You're a rock star. Lisa Cues up the Smash Mouth song for you. Brea Hey, now. you're a rock star. Lisa Get your game on, go play. Brea There you go. Lisa I think this phrase that we picked You're so good at that. This is one that anyone in the audience can listen for. It's not like you hear it all day, every day, but there are things that people comment on. And maybe small, like, you know that I love the word dang, because it's the Texan in me. I've been at work where another person does something and they're like, daaaaaang. It's just, it's those little comments. It doesn't have to be formal. But it could be, it could be that they call you out and they write a kudos note to your boss, but it can also just be when someone's like, oh, you know, making the sound effects on something that you're working on. And those are the clues. Those really are moments where you should take stock and go, Oh, people really like this one. What was that? And that was easy for me. I should do more of this. Brea Yeah. And I love how you're bringing up, we're just so close to our talents. When people say that, when they're like, Oh, dang, you know, that's amazing. You're a rock star. Like what? Like it's hard. Wait, that's a thing. What are you talking about? I mean, I know sometimes I don't even hear it, or maybe I don't realize that they're talking about me because I didn't do anything that would prompt that response. Right. It's like, wait, Me? Lisa Yes. You are so good at so many things. You're going to have to brag about some things today because this is the episode topic. It's required. Brea All right. But I'm going to put you on the spot first. Can you think of a time recently maybe that someone said that to you? Gosh, Lisa, you are so good at that. Lisa Well, today I held one of our monthly tools for coaching calls and they were like, oh my gosh you're so good at this how do you connect all the things you make you have to make the thing but then you have to link to the thing and then you have to have an e-commerce and you have to have a payment processor and you have to put it on your website and there are all these parts It just seems so overwhelming and as I was breaking it down they would be like oh my gosh I'm a head-splitting emoji and those moments feel really good Because if you're good at something, and you just think it's no big deal, like I actually didn't start tools for coaches for a long time, because I didn't realize how helpful it would be to people because that stuff isn't difficult for me. And it's pretty fun. Brea Yeah. Too easy. It's just sitting right there. Lisa Yeah. So it just didn't seem like a thing. And now I realize when you can do something where people are saying, you are so good at that. Oh, this is so generous of you. Oh, my gosh, you're blowing my mind. It's just the perfect alignment for anyone in life. If you can do something for work that other people really are loving receiving. It's it's so cool. So, yeah. Thank you for asking. Brea Thanks for sharing. Lisa Yes. You're making me think of the difference between skills and talents. And I think because you, Brea, are such a good singer and you have the skill of it, then is that a natural talent? Is that a God-given thing? Is it something that you nurtured? Is it a talent plus skill because you actually worked on it and turned it into something? Do you like it because you're good at it? Are you good at it because you like it? Can you break that down for us and take your singing example and just walk us through how you feel like that relates to talents and skills and all the elements for you? Brea Interesting. Interesting. To borrow one of Lisa's words. It's so interesting. Yeah. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Yeah. So with singing, you're right. There is a skill of singing. Anyone can learn to sing. You can learn how to match pitch. You can learn how to breathe. You can learn the proper posture. You can learn how to read music. I mean, all the things are skills that can be learned. And you can practice it. You can practice in the shower. You can practice in the car. You can join a choir. There are so many different ways to invest and practice that skill. But when we look at the formula that Gallup gives us for strength, we talk about talent multiplied by investment. That's all the practice. That's the knowledge and all that equals strength. So talent is really like literally the X factor. It's the multiplier. Talent times investment equals strength. I think that when people remark about my singing, I don't think they're remarking about my skill, to be honest. I think they're remarking about the talent, because, I mean, we can all imagine, everyone listening, just imagine you are at a concert, you're at church, you're somewhere where there are two singers standing side by side on the stage, and they both sing on their own, one at a time, they sing the same song, The exact same notes, the exact same everything, right? Everything is the same. But it's different because it's two different people singing it. Literally, their voice sounds different. There could be excellence in the skill. They could both, you know, put in the same amount of practice and both be very, very excellent. They're on pitch the entire time and all the things. But if one has a communication talent, There's something that draws you in, you know? And I think most of the time when people comment about my singing, it's at church. And I think the reason is because I'm praying. I'm like in conversation. My communication is literally communicating. Or the church songs, they're stories. They're just perfect for the communication talent. I think that's the difference is talent is the X factor. It's the secret sauce. Sometimes coaches will say it's not the what, it's the how you do it. I think that's so true when we look at musicians or when we look at athletes or we look at artists, it's apparent. Two people can draw the same thing or paint the same thing or do the same floor routine at the Olympics, but the way they do it is different. Lisa You're also making me think about how this happens at work, too, because you see someone who's so into it. I mean, it could actually be someone who works at natural grocers and they're just into it in the cashier line. And so someone who's really feeling it, you can't help but be drawn in by them and thinking, oh, you're so good at this or you were born for this. When you were describing singers instantly, I was thinking of my favorite Chris's Chris Stapleton for country and Brea Come on. Love Chris Stapleton. Lisa Okay, take him. Stapleton, there's so much feel in his voice. I actually remember one of my music teachers once was like, this song is not the incredible masterpiece you think it is. It's actually Because his voice is so good and he's selling it so great. You're invested in it and you don't even realize it's a basic song. And that totally just resonates with what you were talking about with the communication talent thing. You are in the story with him. He is pulling you in. And if I got to hear you at church, I imagine it would be the same thing. You're so invested in it that I am feeling it through you, you're you become a vehicle for me to do better. Just because I'm watching something that you're so good at. And now I'm able to up level my game because I'm around you. And I can experience something or understand something that I couldn't if you weren't in the room. Brea That's why communication is an influencing talent, right? Because it spurs you to action. It evokes emotion. There's an influence there. And it's not just the talent of communication. I think every talent can have influence when there's this excellence, when you're in the flow, when you're enjoying it, when you've invested in the talent and it's mature and it's just rocking. It is a rock star. Every talent can at its best have that effect of influence. Lisa Yeah. Actually, you just sparked for me another example, a customer example. I had this guy that in his organization, he was known as the bubble chart guy. And he led through analytical and he loved making charts. I mean, a chart about everything. And he was really proud of the fact that he could figure out how to show things that others in the organization couldn't really figure out. Yeah. In every meeting they were like, Oh, is he coming? And there was a time when he didn't even have a name. People just knew him as the bubble chart guy. And he's like, oh my gosh, I need to work on my branding. Everybody only knows me for my bubbles. But that was a great example of something so different because I think people could hear communication and say, oh, well, this sounds like a special gift, but mine are all thinking themes or mine are all something else. Well, there you go. Analytical. It's a strategic thinking theme. And he was beloved, well known, respected, and people absolutely use those words. You are so good at that. Then once he realized how much people loved it, it became a thing. And then it got built into dashboards and other people were able to do the same kind of great predictions because he created a system that somebody else could draft off of. So I love how talents are like that as well, where when someone says, you're so good at that, you actually can then make a big contribution to your life, to your organization, to the people around you, if you'll stop and take notice and realize that means people want more of that. And if you offered it to them, you're giving them something they couldn't have without you. Brea Yeah, that's a clue that you can look for. What do people come to you for because you do it so well? Lisa Sometimes if you're in the right environment, when people come to you and say, I really need your help with this because you're so good at it. And if you're overwhelmed, you could even resent that. There are times when people say, I don't want to be known as good at things, but noticing the ones that people ask for your help on and you're thrilled to give the help and you realize, oh, I just offered my help for two extra hours and now I need to work even later, but I lost track of time during those two hours because they were so fun. Those are all good things to log in as clues. Brea It's so true that sometimes people come up to you and they say, hey, can you do this for me or can you help me with this because you do it so well? I think we respond both ways. Like you said, we might be so excited to help them with that. Sure, no problem. I got it. Or, oh gosh, I just feel so overwhelmed and I don't want to be known for this because I don't want to have to do it all the time. your response to that question is a clue to talent. Because if you're known for it, if you do it with excellence, but you don't enjoy it, right? You're like, I just don't want to be known for this because I don't want to have to do it all the time. Even though I'm really good at it, I don't really love it. It doesn't bring me energy. It's not something that I want to fill my plate with. Then it's probably a skill. it's probably something that you've learned how to do well, and it may not be a clue to talent. And so with all of these clues to talent that we've talked about in the past several episodes, it's important to not look at them in isolation only, but to see when are they converging? Like in your example, Lisa, about the tools for coaches, there was ease, there was energy, there was excitement, there was excellence. They were all present. So that tells us Yes, there's talent here and this is not just a skill that I've learned. Lisa What a good nuance you just brought up. I think also there are a lot of people who would say if people keep asking me to do a certain thing and I do like it, Yet I don't have time because if I add those two hours to the day, now I'm in my family flow time. I'm in trouble with my family. That gives you another element to be considering for job shaping. Can you talk to your manager? If you're saying, Hey, people are coming to me for this. There's something I want to provide that other people need. I would love to expand this area of contribution in my role. Can we make room for this so that it could be a thing? Because if you let that happen and you get known for a thing you love doing and you can build it into the job description and get it sanctioned, if you will, or build the time in for it, now you're starting to craft your role more and more towards strengths every day. That could be another way to work that situation. Brea I love that. And also, you're reminding me of of the acronym STOP. So this is something that you can use in talent development with all the clues to talent. If you don't want to do it, then you just either stop doing it. S stands for stop. But sometimes we can't. Sometimes we have to do things that we don't want to do. T stands for trade. If someone comes to you and says, hey, can you do this for me? Well, sure. But can you do this for me? Can we trade tasks? Right. I think that's a great a great response at times. O stands for offer it up. Sometimes you just got to do it. You just got to like go for it. You know, you just got to put your head down and make it happen. P stands for partner. So sometimes if you're feeling overwhelmed, if the excellence isn't there, maybe this isn't an area of talent for you, then partner with someone who does have that talent. If you can't trade it because it is something that you have to be a part of, then find a partner with the talent that you need to come and do it with excellence. And then together, you're gonna be stronger and you'll get a better result. Lisa That's a good one. All right, I'll give a final tool or resource if you are listening and you're like, Okay, I still don't know what I'm good at. No one has said you're so good at that to me lately. I have a list for you at leadthroughstrengths.com slash more of And it is just a big old list of things that might call to you that you might want more of that you're really good at. And why just go to this list and look for things that pop out at you. It's everything from: I would love more of suggesting solutions. I would love more of poking the bear. I would love more of finding truths. I would love more of assuring quality. It's a list of all kinds of things. And look for the ones that really jump out at you, that are screaming at you saying, yeah, go get more of this. And that will give you some direction to explore if you don't feel like you're getting the feedback from the people around you. Brea And don't be afraid to ask for feedback. Feedback is not a four-letter word. Feedback can be very positive too. So don't be afraid to… to ask people what you're good at. Let them hype you up. And if you've taken the CliftonStrengths assessment, go and read through that report. It is your personal hype person on paper. Paper hype. Lisa We know people are going to want an in-person hype girl. So we're going to have to tell them how to work with you as well. Definitely go to your paper hype person. And then if you decide you want to work with a real hype girl live and in person, you've got to go to Brea. So Brea, tell them...
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Doing What You Love
09/08/2024
Doing What You Love
“They” say we spend over 30% of our life at work. For some of us over-achieving, work-a-holics burning the candle at both ends, that percentage is likely even higher. If we’re spending over a third of our lives working, shouldn’t we love what we do? We think so. That’s why in this episode we talk about another one of the “5 Clues to Talent”: Satisfaction. Come join us! Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness Talent development shouldn’t be “one size fits all”, because each person is uniquely talented! Unfortunately, most leaders struggle to find and fuel the unique talent in yourself and others. If you’re ready to find hidden talent and realize untapped potential – let’s talk! I’m ready to customize a solution for any need, any budget. Connect with me at ! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways for doing what you love…this week! Identify What You Love What brings you joy and satisfaction in your daily activities is a clue to your innate talent! Maybe it's the opportunity to learn, the sense of accomplishment when completing a task, coming up with creative ideas, collaborating with others…or something else. Whatever it is, understanding what you love to do. and why, can lead to a more fulfilling life – at work and home. Feel better. Do better. When you operate from a place of joy and fulfillment, you feel better yourself, and make more significant contributions to those around you. A win-win! By focusing on doing what you love and leveraging your strengths, you can enhance your overall well-being and positively impact your relationships and work performance. Remember, hard work doesn't have to feel hard. You can actually enjoy what you do. Finding what you don’t love to do is not the same as finding what you do enjoy. Sure, making a list of what we didn’t like about a task or activity can help us avoid those things in the future. But it won’t necessarily lead you to what you do enjoy. And you deserve a life that’s more than simply avoiding what you don't like. You deserve to thrive! Remember, hard work doesn’t have to be hard. Align it with your strengths and it actually feels easy. 🌟 Take Action – find simpler approaches to doing what you love ● Identify what you enjoy, and why. Pull out your calendar/planner and review the past two weeks of tasks. Identify the things you particularly enjoyed, experienced deep satisfaction, or were just plain fun. What specifically did you enjoy about these activities? Why did you enjoy those things? Reflecting on the reasons why certain activities or tasks bring you joy to apply that knowledge more broadly in other areas of your life. ● Make it fun! When looking at your present or future tasks and opportunities, practice the self-coaching question: "How can I make this more fun?" or "What could I do to enjoy this task a little more?" Your answer should help you align your talent with the task, resulting in a stronger outcome. Don’t limit yourself to challenging situations. Things that are already enjoyable can always be more fun! 🙂 ● Further Reading: Check out the book by Dr. Clifton to learn more about the Five Clues to Talent, including this week’s topic: Satisfaction. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript of the “Doing What You Love” Audio LISA Hey, I'm Lisa. BREA And I'm Brea. LISA And today's topic is doing what you love, living your best life, having some fun. BREA Having lots of fun. Life is too short to not have fun, isn't it? LISA Absolutely. BREA You know, they, the proverbial they, say that we spend over a third of our lives at work. That's crazy, Lisa. A third of your life? LISA Well, and likewise, you get a third of your life in your sleep. So what's left over? BREA Well, laundry is left. Grocery shopping is left. Chores are left. Cleaning, you know, and that's what we squeeze into the early morning hours or the late night hours or the weekends is not necessarily stuff that we enjoy. So if most of the time is at work, why not enjoy it? LISA Yes BREA I think this is so foundational what we're talking about today, the clue to talent satisfaction. So what do you enjoy? What makes you happy? What? What satisfies you and why? Why is that satisfying for you? Is it the process or is it looking at the finished product? And what about the finished product is satisfying? Is it that it's done? Like Achiever loves to finish the thing. Or is it satisfying to look at the finished product because it's aesthetically pleasing? Or what is it? What is it about that finished product that's satisfying? And that's what clues us in to our talents. And when we can get that micro in understanding how our talents are working and how they're showing up, then we can start applying that intentionally in all the places. And that's when we can really change our lives. LISA Yes. And I think that it's easy for people to call out what they don't want more of. Here's what I dislike. Here's what I wouldn't like to do more of. Here's what I want to get rid of. Yet we're really missing this clue to talent of doing what you love. What did you find attractive about that thing? what was satisfying about it for you. And then anytime you can make a connection to your values, preferences, motivations, CliftonStrengths talent themes, all of it, they just help you process why you love it so you can get more of that. And I think the reason you want to get more of that is because it makes you feel alive, because it allows you to show up at your best, because it unleashes your contributions to the world. Brea, do you view that similarly or differently? BREA 100% yes. Yes, yes, yes. You're right. It's so easy for us to just focus on what's wrong or what we don't like or whatever. And so it does take a little bit of hard work to figure out what is it about this thing that I do love But when we do that, gosh, that's what strength focused development, positive psychology, that's what this is about, right? Because when we look at where we messed up or if we look at what we didn't love, we could make a list. Easy, easy. of a hundred different things that we didn't love about it. And how does that help us? Well, it helps us avoid those in the future, but it doesn't direct us to what will make us happy. And it's so much easier to just take a few minutes and figure out, well, what did I love about that? and then you identified it and then it's like, okay, well, let's go get more of that and problem solved, right? Then we're not living in this life of just avoiding things that don't make us happy or that we don't do well, but we're focused on what does and then we get all of those positive benefits for ourselves and for others. LISA So agree with that. And it really does take conscious effort. I mean, that's clearly why it doesn't happen, because we tend to be overstimulated, overscheduled. We're so busy. Well, why we why we're the boss of our lives. And we're also the literal boss of ourselves. We get to choose. We all have that agency over our lives. If you’re not doing what you love, you’re choosing to not be doing what you love. All of us, every person listening, including the two of us…you can do more of what you love than you did yesterday. BREA Yeah, and it's not selfish. We're not focusing on what we love just so that you can focus on yourselves all the time and make it all about you. It really does impact those around you. And when you show up at your best, then you're contributing more. You're giving your best self to the people around you, to the workplace, to your customers, to your clients. And people want to be around you. You're strengthening your relationships with other people because I mean, if I had to choose between being with someone who was happy and someone who was just grumbling all the time, I would prefer to be with someone who's in a good mood and having a good day. LISA Oh, I thought of two things that sparked off of that. One is, how many times when I was in talent development departments in big corporate and we used to do these annual talent reviews…and how often a person would come up where they're like, oh, he's just a really good guy, really good to be around, really good to work with. Does that say anything about that person's results? Nope. But it got noted that that person's easy to work with, fun to work with, great to be around, probably because they do more of what they love. And so that whole energy that you feel from that person has a ripple effect on the culture, on the team, and people notice it even when they don't want to. BREA Yeah, I love that. LISA And then also I thought of this person. Her name is Jckie. Shout out to Jckie if you're here. She is somebody that I met way back when, when I was going through my MBA program. And I remember when we graduated, she landed her dream job in a compliance role. And it was one of my biggest insights about doing what you love because as she described her compliance role, I was literally thinking in the inside voice, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. But I was like, you know, what's so great about this is that if other people do what they love, we're all contributing things that the world needs. And a lot of times, other people want that from you or need that from you. And they'd prefer to not be the one doing it. Like I'm so happy that I don't need to be in a compliance role because there's a Jackie out there who loves being in a compliance role. So that gets to the lack of selfishness thing that if you really tap into what you're great at, how you live your best life, doing what you love, showing up at your best, You're contributing something that somebody else doesn't want to do. BREA Oh my gosh. I love this so much. When I was in grade school, I remember so clearly being in class and the teacher would always ask for volunteers to read aloud. You know, we're in the textbook and they're like, who wants to read paragraph, whatever. And of course, I mean, communication is my number one. It always has been my number one. It is It's how I show up in the world with my mouth wide open. And so of course, as soon as I hear her saying, does anybody want, I mean, I know what's coming and my hand is just straight up in the air. I'm like, I want to read out loud. And over time, as I grew, I realized, no, Brea, you should let other people have an opportunity to read out loud, too, because it's so fun. Of course, everybody else wants to do it and you shouldn't, you know, hog it, you know, like give everybody else a chance. Isn't that how we think? LISA Oh my gosh, yes. This is such a great one. The one where you actually feel yourself in your inside voice as an adult. You would be feeling that feeling of the little kid raising the hand going, pick me, pick me, pick me. Oh, I hope they call on me. That's doing what you love. BREA Yes, but I learned to silence the voice because I told myself because it's so fun for me, it has to be so fun for other people and I should let other people get a turn. But what I didn't realize is it could be fun for me and not be fun for other people. Like most of the people in the class didn't want to. And so I'm just sitting there letting other people take a turn, but then no one else volunteers. And so it's a lose-lose for everybody. LISA That is another great way to look at clues to talent. Okay, Joe Darin, as a fellow strengths coach, and I remember him saying, I remember him saying something about seeing the shine in someone else's eyes. And it's either that it's like that sparkle that was in your voice when you were reading, because you're like, I'm going to make this colorful, and it's fun. And they could see that pop in you. I think that is a way to catch it in yourself. It's a way to see others when they're doing what they love to notice it and say, Oh, you're so good at that. And. I also think simultaneously that it was mature of you to notice you might be hogging it. This certainly happens at work where someone doesn't want to sound like the one who's always talking over people in meetings. And there are ways to still work around that. So you can maximize doing what you love. BREA Yeah, and I think it bears repeating that learning about our talents and just even learning language from an assessment like CliftonStrengths, learning what talents there are and what the talents do and what the talents enjoy is so helpful because we don't know what we don't know. And until I understood that it was fun for me to read out loud, because of my talents. That's my strength. And other people have different talents. Until I had that awareness and understanding, I didn't have the freedom to really engage with them or to hold them back. Holding them back was from a place of fear or from a place of negativity of some kind, instead of the freedom to say, look, I really want to make this contribution. It would be really fun for me to be the one to read out loud. But I also know that Lisa loves to read out loud. And so I'm going to invite her to do that. Then we're we're holding back our talents from a positive stance, you know, from a place of strength. Yes. LISA I think you're picking up on this thing that you and I have talked about in the past about the why being such an important exploration of this, not just the surface level, what you love, but why you love it, because we could both love reading out loud and for completely different reasons. So understanding why can really, can really shed some light on how you feel. Okay, now this isn't work related, but earlier we discovered we both liked board games and we didn't take the conversation any further. I wonder if we could pick out some differences about what you love about a board game and what I love about a board game and use it as a way to shed some light on how different people's talents and values might color what they love, even though the outward end result, I love board games, being the same. BREA I mean, for me, my absolute favorite game to play, absolutely hands down, is Taboo because it's all talking. That's it, right? It's just words. But in general, word games are attractive to me, right? That's much more attractive than, oh, like, don't ever ask me to play Settlers of Catan or Risk. No thanks. LISA Okay, now we both lead through Communication in our Top 5 talents, so we are going to have some similarities here. I do love the word games. I love Taboo. I love Balderdash. I love this or that games, but I always want to make up my own rules and be like, but why? Say more about what your preference is. BREA Hashtag individualization. We love it. LISA I love board games. Most of all, because I'm doing something with a group. I like the human element of board games a lot. If there's a structured activity that gets conversation flowing and gets something going, especially if there's a physical element, I'm totally in. BREA So I'm hearing some similarities. I think Relationships, definitely any game that allows us to come together and play. If it's a getting to know you type of game, a party game or something where I get to learn more about the people and the game is just kind of the vehicle, you know, to enjoy that experience. A hundred percent favorite. I'm just playing the game. You know, I'm also not competitive. We're just playing it and and talking, you know and sharing life while we're we're playing the game LISA So I think you're bringing up another one for me that I hadn't thought of. Duh. Competition is high for me and I like to win and like winning and hyping but I also like cheering people on and it's like I'm fine. I'm not a sore loser at all with games. I just love cheering on a person. But if I'm not good at Euchre and I'm not good at Trivial Pursuit because I'm a bad memorizer, I don't really want to play it as my first choice because I'm not going to have a chance of winning. BREA I would also say maybe that's a little bit of your maximizer, don't you think? Heck yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like you know what you're good at, you know what you can win. I always joke Maximizers are always good at everything they do because they don't do anything that they're not good at. LISA Hey, we're talking about doing what you love, getting more of the good, getting less of the bad. BREA When you played sports, did you enjoy team sports or individual sports? LISA Both. Both. Totally. And I also didn't get into things that I wasn't good at. If I knew I had no potential in that area, it was just gone. Basketball, when I was in sixth grade and I was the tallest kid in the whole class, great. But when I stopped growing in sixth grade, by eighth grade, I was like, oh, basketball's not going to be my thing. Let's move on to areas I have better potential. BREA And I think that that's, again, clues to talent, right? So a lot of times people don't understand that competition as a CliftonStrength is not the only competitive talent. There's actually three of the 34 that are very competitive. And I think you have all three in your top 10, or maybe your top five, don't you? LISA Tell more. Tell more. Everybody wants to know what your list is going to be. BREA I know, here we go on a tangent. So competition, obviously, and Maximizer is competitive, but more competitive with yourself. And then Woo, it literally has win in the title, right? Winning others over. So three influencing talents that are motivated, that enjoy, that are satisfied when there's a component of winning. LISA And even though it was a seemingly a tangent, it wasn't because you tied that into doing what you love and picking up those things that you love. And yes, by the way, those are all in my top 10. And let's see. So if we tie this all together, how would you send someone away with their homework of how to identify a little bit more of what they love, how to have some more fun or how to live their best life? BREA Actually, I think one of the best coaching questions out there, or at least one of my favorites, is how can I make this more fun? Or what could I do to enjoy this task a little more? That's a very easy self-coaching question that you can immediately start to practice today. And it doesn't have to be only when things are challenging. It can also be when things are going well. Add another layer of talent. That's really the best case to not just have one of these clues to talent shining, but if it could be easy for you and if you can enjoy it, you know, gosh, that's bonus. LISA Yes. And since you went specific and in the moment, I'll give a homework that is more retroactive, where you take a glance through the last two weeks of your to-do list, your calendar, and go through things you've already completed and pick out the ones that spark for you like, oh, I really liked that. I was really doing what I loved in some way when I...
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How Did You Do That?
09/01/2024
How Did You Do That?
Have you ever had someone say, “Wow! How did you do that?” or “You make that look so easy!” and think, ‘What? Like it’s hard?’ (I see you, Elle Woods!) Or maybe you’ve recognized how others seem to be able to pick up or breeze through certain tasks with an effortlessness or ease you only dream of. It’s all a clue to talent! In this episode, we talk about one of the “5 Clues to Talent”: Rapid Learning. We share personal anecdotes and examples of how recognizing what comes easy to you can lead to a deeper understanding of your strengths. Whether it's performing on stage, hyping people up, or crushing spreadsheets and TPS reports, acknowledging these innate abilities can lead to a deeper understanding of your strengths – and make hard work feel a little more easy-breezy. So, grab your metaphorical "easy button" and join us for this episode on the 2nd “Clue to Talent”: Rapid Learning. We’ll answer, “How did you do that so easily” with a lens of strengths. Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways on Rapid Learning (AKA How Did You Do That?) Your Talents Are Easy Buttons: One of the key clues to talent is ease - those things that come effortlessly to us but may seem challenging to others. Recognizing and embracing what comes easily to you is fundamental for your success. Leaning into your talents can help you work smarter, not harder. Apply Talent to Challenges: When you’re faced with a challenge, ask yourself, “How can I make this easy?” By leveraging your easy buttons, you can excel in your endeavors - even the most challenging ones. Easy Buttons are Not Excuses to be Lazy: Continuous learning and skill development that aligns with your talents i. By taking action to learn skills that complement your strengths, you can make the path to success feel more effortless and enjoyable. Remember, hard work doesn’t have to be hard. Align it with your strengths and it actually feels easy. 🌟 Take Action on Your “How Did You Do That” Moments ● Identify Your Natural Talents: What comes easy to you? What are you doing when you hear others say, “Wow! How do you do that?” or “You make that look so easy!” ● Invest in Your Talent: Seek opportunities to grow your talent with knowledge, skill, and practice. For exponential growth, make sure your investment is directly aligned with your talent. For example, if you have a gift for gab, consider taking a Toastmasters class or reading up on storytelling techniques. ● Spot Talent in Others: When you notice someone excelling with ease, acknowledge their talent and ask them about it. Show appreciation for their abilities and learn from their approach. ● Further Reading: Check out the books by Dr. Clifton to learn more about the Five Clues to Talent, and by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi to deepen your understanding of talent development and rapid learning. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea And I'm Brea Lisa And today's topic is, how did you do that? Brea How did you do what? Lisa I know, that's what they're thinking when they clicked on the title. It's that thing that you watch someone else doing and you're like, how do you do that so easily? How do you make that look so smooth? Brea So this is one of what Gallup calls the five clues to talent. I call it ease. You know, what comes easy to you? Gallup might use the words rapid learning. You know, what's effortless? You said what's smooth, right? What just kind of feels natural. Lisa Yeah, when people actually ask you, how did you do that? Or how do you do that so quickly? Or how does that come so naturally to you? Those are the things that other people notice, usually before you do, that something is really great on you, but it's so easy to you, you don't think it's special, so you don't even know it's a thing. Brea Yes, I think is so helpful for people to know these clues. Number one, if you don't know what your talents or your strengths are, and you want to try to figure out what are you naturally good at? Where are your natural talents? This is one of the clues to kind of clue you in to where those natural talents may lie. Lisa Yes, because not everybody has done CliftonStrengths. Not everybody's heard of CliftonStrengths or the book StrengthsFinder 2.0. So when you see something in someone else and you're like, hey, how do you do that so easily? These are just really easy things to actually say it out loud. Brea And also, if you already know your CliftonStrengths, this will offer a little bit of a nuance and a layer to help you better develop that by saying, OK, I know I lead with Activator. How does Activator help me do something easily? Lisa Yeah, you feel those instincts, like, oh, I have this sense of urgency about everything. Why? And then you realize, oh, that's why that comes easily to me, moving fast, making decisions, because I want it to get going because of Activator. Does anything come to mind for you, Bria, when you think about something someone's noticed in you that just comes really easily to you? Brea Wow, thank you so much for asking. I was not reflecting on my own talent. I'll put you on the spot on that one. I mean, the first thing that comes to mind is singing. That's usually what people will remark on. I also love when you call me the strengths hype girl. And I think that that does come so easily to me, you know, hyping people and finding what's good in them. Lisa This is a great element to Clues to Talent where when someone compliments you and says, like the first time I said, Oh my gosh, you are the strengths hype girl. And you were like, Oh my gosh, thank you for saying that. You know those feelings when someone compliments you on something and you're like, oh, I love being noticed for that. Oh my gosh, how cool. Those are great moments where they're clues to your talent and you want to give that contribution and you're so excited that someone else cared about it. Brea I think that's something with this clue to talent, people respond one of two ways. They say, what? Like, that's a thing? Like, what do you mean? Like, it's just so easy for me to do it. And you think that's special or you think that's cool, right? Or their eyes shine, you know, and they're like, oh my gosh, thank you, like, for seeing that in me because it is so natural for us. It is so easy for us to do that thing that we don't really think anything of it, you know, or we don't think that people notice. Or they say, what? Like, that's a thing? Like, what do you mean…it's just so easy for me to do it. Because it is so natural for us. It is so easy for us to do that thing that we don't really think anything of it, you know, or we don't think that people notice. Like, I think of the weird people out there who can just put together an Ikea piece of furniture, you know? They don't need to follow the instructions. They can just put it together. How did you do that? Right? How did you do that? That's so hard for me. I can't even imagine putting together something from Ikea, period. And the fact that you did it, and you did it without instructions, that's pretty amazing. That's a clue to talent. Lisa Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember there were some people who were like, people always talk to you and it's like you know people everywhere you go, but they're actually strangers. People would be like, why do they always talk to you? Finally, I just started saying, “because I'm approachable.” I mean, I am genuinely on the inside, so receptive to anybody I don't know talking to me. And they can feel that apparently, because they will do it. But that's your talents working, even if you don't realize it until someone else points it out. Brea So Lisa, what you're describing is such an interesting nuance and a really cool perspective to this. It's easy for you to respond to someone who just starts talking to you, right? You know, that's easy for you because of your talents. What I'm also hearing from you is that it's easy for others to approach you because of your talents, right? Your positivity is giving off this vibe that like, hey, come on, you know, your woo's like, come and talk to me. So they feel it and it's easy for them to approach you. And I think that is so true when people notice that someone is at ease when they're working or when they're talking to you. I notice, especially for things that are hard for me, naturally, like cooking. I don't love it. I'm not very good at it. I love to eat. So I appreciate someone who can cook. And when I can see someone like in the kitchen and they're just chopping away and throwing in a dash of this and, you know, a little drop of this and a glug of that and all I have to do. Lisa That's how she is. Brea Oh, come on. Oh, does she have Arranger? Lisa: I don't think so. It's just like, if it just had a little dash of a shallot and I'll be like, what's a shallot? Brea Her cute accent too. I love that. Shout out to Ty. We love that. And I want to be around that because it's attractive when someone is at ease. Right. So that's another reason for us to exist in our talents. Lisa Right. Because it's a vibe. It's good for us and it's good for them. Yes. That's interesting. You know, this topic makes me think of this workplace example. And if I put it in the context of the vibes you just brought up. Okay, so this is a classic me not in my clues to talent discovering someone else's talent going on something that's easy for them. I was back in cube-land early in my career and I had this leader… She used to come by our cubes and make these requests ad hoc throughout the day now I lead through focus It's the only way I get things done, which is heads down focused on one thing Don't interrupt me or I'll be totally messed up. I just want power hour sort of thing and she would come around, interrupt you, and be like, hey, can you slice and dice this data? And it would be this new way to display a thing on a chart. And I learned how to do this in Excel. I could do it. It's a skill that can be learned. But every time I would feel her feet coming by, I would be like, here comes a slice and dice request. I felt interrupted, frustrated. I would be like, And these are things that would have taken five minutes if I felt that ease. So then I would take a break. Then I would check in on my email and make sure I'm updated before I started. Then I would go grab a cup of coffee downstairs so I could get myself mentally prepared and focused to do this thing. 40 minutes later, I've finished this pivot table and I'm back into my other work. And it's something that should have been very fast. So I noticed this colleague over the cube, how he reacted totally different from the way I did. He'd be like, oh, yes, and what about this way? And what about that? And they would bubble off of each other about these charts. It's all clues to talent. You start to see where someone just feels ease and it's no problem and it's fast and that somebody else can do the same thing and have the same skill level. But it comes off totally different. And that's all about whether it's just a learned skill. Brea So, I love this and I'm gonna shine a spotlight on that word learned. That's what we're talking about. When it's truly talent, you can't teach talent. You can't learn talent. You've got it or you don't, right? It's easy for you or it's not. You can learn skill. You can teach skill. But it's not the same, right? The outcome isn't the same. If the skill is not aligned with a natural talent, it feels different. It feels different to you and it feels different to others. I think that's so good, Lisa. Lisa Like, let's talk about the implication of what you just said, because one person could look at what you just said and conclude, well, then we can all get the same result. It just may be a little more ramp up time for somebody else who has to build a skill. But if you look at it like, could you maximize this? Could you give that guy I'm talking about, if he had three times as many pivot tables, and I had three times as many PowerPoints, we might be able to be twice as productive instead of someone saying, but everyone needs to know how to do everything. Also, think about the culture. I think implication of the culture are even bigger because what if you get to love what you do? What if you get that reaction that he had where he was like, oh yeah, and what about this way to slice and dice it? Oh yeah, and what about this way to tell the story? Meanwhile, I was just like yeah get done the minimum thing so I can move on to my next and so I think there is a huge performance implication that a lot of people don't think about because a lot of Huge yeah, it seems like on the surface. You could just say just get it done suck it up do the thing and and don't complain about it, which is what I was doing, but it wasn't the best thing for the culture or the results or the creativity or our extra, you know, people talk about discretionary effort, things like that. So that is where I think this idea of rapid learning and ease, like if it's easy for you, you're going to give such a bigger contribution compared to if you just have to get it done. Brea And I want to be clear when we're talking about ease or when we're talking about rapid learning, when we're talking about this, this clue to talent, let's be clear. I'm not promoting a hundred percent lifestyle of ease. I'm not promoting laziness. I'm not here to say, don't do anything that's hard. Don't challenge yourself. Okay. Lisa Let's just be clear. Good clearing. Brea Brilliant. Challenge is good for us, right? Not an excuse to be lazy. But when it comes to work, when it comes to performance, when the outcome matters, Why make it harder for yourself? Life is already hard. Why make it harder? You know? And if as managers, as leaders, as parents, as friends, as spouses, if we can look at ourselves and the people in our lives and set them up for success by saying, how can we work together to let you do what comes naturally for you and I'll do what comes naturally for me and together we're stronger. That sounds like a good world to me. Lisa And it's efficient. I think it's really telling you have the natural tendencies, you have these instincts and these talents that might lead you to be good at a thing. And then when you add the skill on top of it, the way it exponentially helps compared to how it would help someone else is an incredible thing because there are all these elements of it that feed together both the talent and the skill when they map up. That's when the performance is so incredible. Brea I love that. Yes, it's that alignment that really makes the difference. Hey, can we talk a little bit about this idea of rapid learning, how we learn, and how that relates to our talents? Lisa Yeah, that's a great way to close. Brea Some people learn quickly by themselves, maybe by reading or researching in a book or watching a YouTube video or whatever. I'm very much like high relationship building, high influencing. So if I have to learn something, I want to learn from people. You know, I want you to tell me how to do it. I want you to teach me. I want to like learn with you. So even the the way that we learn, not just how quickly or slowly we learn, but the way that we learn can also clue us into talent. Lisa Oh, yeah. That is a really cool nuance. I've heard you do that so many times because you, well, take your communication and you'll talk through a thing to learn the thing and even learn what your perspective is on the thing. I've absolutely heard that in you. I think about how to explain, I'm trying to make connections with the talents before ever having thought about this, but I tend to learn by getting going and doing something I'm very kinesthetic and whether that is I'm learning while moving like I would rather talk and be moving in order to Think it through better with body movement or actually just doing something like if somebody says “Learn new software” back in the old days when you would have a manual to do it I would be the person who would be like Just let me open it up and click around. I wanted to do it more through feeling or like the IKEA example you gave. I would rather see if I can spatially figure it out by getting the parts out and beginning to do it. I would prefer that. There's the movement element that really calls to me. I don't know if I can map that to my CliftonStrengths specifically, but it's definitely a clue to where I'm good. Brea Yeah, it's such a good example. You know, what pops out for me is you're strategic, very adaptable in that way. It starts kind of thinking forward, moving forward, and then, you know, we could go this way, we could go that way, so let's just try it, and then we'll, oh, that didn't work, so we'll go this way instead, right? And I hear a lot from Activator, too. I don't want to project because Activator is high for me, but I hear this from people, not just myself. that activator learns by doing, right? We're sitting in a meeting and we're like, oh my gosh, can we please stop talking about it? Let's just try it. Let's just try. So maybe they're, you know, those are maybe contributing, you know, to that, but yeah, it, again, you don't need the assessment, you know, it's, it's another layer to developing your CliftonStrengths. And if you don't have an assessment or if you're just out in the wild, if you're at the grocery store or you're on a run or whatever and you're around strangers, look for this. Look for rapid learning. Look for what comes naturally to people. If you think to yourself, wow, how did they do that? Flip it from the focus being on you and like, oh, that's so hard for me. How did they do that? I must not be as good, right? That internal self-talk that can be negative sometimes. When you catch yourself saying, wow, how did they do that? Realize, wow, that's a clue to their talent. Say that to them. Gosh, that's amazing. That's amazing. can you teach me how to do it? They'll probably say no because it comes so easy to them. They're like, I don't know how I did it. I just did it. show them that what they're doing, how they're doing it, something about the way their brain is working right now is really, really special. What a gift, you know, we can give to others. Lisa That's such a perfect way to end the episode thinking about helping someone see their contribution. Before we move to the close, do you have any favorite resources that you would share on this topic if somebody wants to go a...
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What Do You Really, Really Want?
08/25/2024
What Do You Really, Really Want?
About This Episode on Getting What You Really Want Out of Life What do the Spice Girls, double rainbows, and pursuing our dreams all have in common? Yearning. If you're someone who is looking to tap into your inner desires and explore what you really want out of life, this episode is for you. Inspired by Gallup’s “Five Clues to Talent”, Lisa & Brea explore how our dreams and desires can clue us in to our hidden talents. We discuss how yearnings can: ● arise in personal and professional settings ● impact daily tasks and long-term goals ● be a powerful motivator We also discuss: ● how different talent themes yearn for different things, and in different ways ● what might keep us from discovering, embracing, and pursuing our desires We also share practical tips and exercises to help you uncover your yearnings and start working towards making them a reality. Work With Us! BREA Roper Communication | Woo | Activator | Futuristic | Connectedness If you need a Strengths Hype Girl, for yourself or your team, connect with Brea at . She’s ready to deliver an inspirational keynote, empowering training, or transformational workshop. If you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts, reach out today! LISA Cummings Strategic | Maximizer | Positivity | Individualization | Woo To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways The Human Desire For Something More Yearning, longing, and dreaming are innate to the human experience. It's good to identify what our hearts truly long for and what we aspire to achieve. Whether it's a long-term dream or a simple desire for a change in our daily routine, yearning allows us to strive for something greater and live with purpose. Our Talents Can Support Our Dreams Our natural talents can play a significant role in fulfilling our yearnings. By identifying our talents and understanding how they can inspire and support our dreams and aspirations, we can leverage our strengths to achieve our goals and live a more fulfilling life. Living in the Moment Yearning doesn’t only involve looking toward the future. For individuals who naturally focus on the here and now, being present and embracing what brings us joy and fulfillment in the here and now can be a powerful way to live out our yearnings on a daily basis. Remember, it's never too late to start dreaming and working towards your aspirations. Let's embrace our yearnings and strive for a life filled with purpose and fulfillment. 🌟 Take Action on What You Really Want Out of Life ● Reflect on your yearnings. Take five minutes to ask yourself, "What do I want? What do I really want?" Repeat this question over and over again to unlock your deepest desires and aspirations. ● Create a bucket list: Make a list of things you long for or dream about, without placing any limits on your aspirations. Allow yourself to dream big and explore what truly matters to you. ● Check out the replay of Lisa's virtual workshop where participants crowdsourced a bucket list. Use this resource to gain inspiration and clarity on your own yearnings. ● Seek coaching or support: If you need guidance in exploring your yearnings further, consider working with a coach like Brea or Lisa. Visit their websites to learn more about their coaching services and how they can help you uncover and pursue your desires. Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript on What You Really Want Out of Life Lisa Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea And I'm Brea Lisa And today's topic is yearning for something…figuring out what you really want out of life. Brea Yearning for something. What does that mean, yearning? Lisa What does it mean? What does it mean? You know, this was inspired, like the rainbow guy on the old viral video. What does it mean, the double rainbow? Brea Oh my gosh, it's so funny. Well, it makes me think of the five clues to talent that Gallup gives us. Lisa Yeah, they have five clues to talent and we just picked one of them. This is actually the first one. They call it yearning. And Brea, I remember when I said the word yearning, you were almost like, and tell us more about that. Brea I don't know. I don’t love the word yearning. I think the word longing really resonates with me more. What does my heart long for? You know, what have I been longing for? I think when Gallup talks about yearning, It's a similar thing. What is something that has been on your heart or in your mind for a long time that you're yearning for, pining for, looking forward to? That's what comes to mind when I think of yearning through this lens. Lisa I don't think you're alone with not loving the word yearning, because if you bring this up in a corporate workshop, people are like, that's kind of sappy. And then yeah, longing or dreaming, you know, like, that's impractical. So what do you do with that? What is the use case for this? Like, what's the problem with not ever allowing yourself to long for something or pine for something or dream about something? Why is it so important to explore what you really want out of life? Brea I don't know is the short answer because futuristic is in my top five, so I don't know how not to do this. But I do think that there's something about the human experience that yearns for something more, that longs for something more, that wants to wake up every day and live for something more. I think it's so beautiful to, and this is my connectedness maybe coming out, but like to be a part of something bigger than ourselves, you know, and to see, to see the future. So again, this is in my talent DNA. What are your thoughts? Lisa Well, it's totally in my top 10 as well. It's right up there, just right behind the top five. I think it's seven for me, futuristic. Not that futuristic is the only dreamer, but it definitely looks ahead. I think in a workplace, people fear that it's impractical, but I also believe that striving is a human need. If you're not looking forward to something, even if it's really simple, like, what if you just dreamt of a different morning routine, where you gave yourself the chance to eat breakfast outside, have a warm cup of tea in your hands and wake up in a relaxed state where you're deciding what the vibe is of the rest of your day. And that sets you up for success. That’s part of defining what you really want out of life. Maybe that's only a 15 minute tweak to your day. And that might be a big deal for people to change 15 minutes of every day. But that's something like if you say yearning or dreaming, people are like, Oh, that's so big. And I don't have time to create world peace right now I've got I've got a task list to do. I think that's what gets in the way of people stopping to dream or long for something. What do you think gets in the way? Brea Yeah, I think that's really insightful, Lisa. I think long-term yearning gets in the way because, number one, it's vulnerable. To say, gosh, this is a deep-seated desire of mine that hasn't gone away for my whole life. I know this from my own experience and I've talked to other people about their childhood dreams or things that have been percolating for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, and we haven't had the courage. We're afraid of failure. We, for whatever reason, don't pursue those dreams. I think sometimes we're afraid of our own greatness, you know? And when we're talking about five clues to talent, and we're talking about this clue, that's really what it is, is it clues us in to our talent, our innate ability to be great, to do something great. And sometimes that's scary, you know? Lisa Absolutely. Yeah, and I think it's really interesting. I held a workshop recently where people talked about their dreams and aspirations and we crowdsourced a bucket list while we were live and looking at the variety of things that came up because we didn't put constraints on it about, you know, what the bucket list type had to be. And we had everything from specific training and development type of programs that someone would develop to, I'm looking at an item right now, someone said, smile at someone who gives me a dirty look. Wow. And that one just grabbed me like, okay, so as a bucket list item, now does that count as a yearning? Maybe it's like an inside thing where I am totally making this up about the person because I don't know who wrote it or where it was coming from. But maybe they tend to react in a way that is defensive, or they make assumptions about what somebody else is thinking. And maybe there's a yearning in them to build rapport with people and have really deep, meaningful relationships or to not be affected by the temperature that's already in the room. Maybe what you really want out of life is to connect with others. There are so many things you could guess about why someone really wants that in their life. But how cool to say, They just thought of something they want about who they want to be and how they want to show up. But it's not the way they show up every day currently. And so I think that sometimes when you hear words like longing, yearning, dreaming, they sound so big. But this really simple one where someone could just say, I want that. I want to be this, I want to live this, but I just haven't asked myself to do it yet, or haven't given myself permission or courage or whatever angle. And I think that's a nice way to look at it as well, because there's a reason that's bubbling up in you. Brea Yeah. And through a strengths language, we can say, OK, let's say some of my, my natural talents, my natural disposition, the way that I might naturally react to someone who gives me a yucky look, might not be to smile at them. OK, so how can I connect with my talents to be able to respond from a natural place instead of just willpowering my way through, or every time I don't return a bad look with a smile, I give myself a negative point, you know, or I tear myself down, like, why can't you ever do that, you know? So to look at our talents and to align them with this desire for goodness, to respond in a good, positive way, I think is really, really powerful. Lisa Yeah, I love that because when I've heard other strengths coaches talk about five clues to talent, and this topic of yearning comes up, often we're characterizing it as if your strengths or these natural talents, like anything from your top five or top 10, are probably speaking you know, in your yearnings, they're, they're going to show up in there. Then in the example that you gave, I'm seeing a completely different angle that a lot of people overlook, which would be, Hey, here's something you want for yourself and you want for your life. How could the ones that you have support you in this dream that keeps popping up and mapping them together? What a cool way to look at it. That just seems to not get used. Brea Well, the truth of the matter is, is that every talent is neutral, right? It's not good. It's not bad. It just is a pattern. It just is what it is. It's a pattern of thought, feeling, and behavior that can be productively applied. But that doesn't mean that we always apply it productively, right? There are shadow sides to our talents as well as the, the greatest potential. And so sometimes, yeah, like our talents show up in a way where it can, can get in the way and it can also really, really help. And so that might be maybe judging the person who's giving you a hard look or a bad look, you know, maybe it's positivity, who didn't like it, you know, and is, kind of brought down by it. Maybe Woo responds more naturally to negativity with a smile, with an effort to, you know, to win that person over. That doesn't mean that Woo is better than Positivity. It just means that maybe they responded differently. So how do you use your talents to get what you want? Lisa Yeah, you're making me think about something I've been playing with lately, is giving one that is acting like a troublemaker talent, giving it a different job. So for example, Maximizer is one that acts like a troublemaker talent for me often where it yearns to tweak things. It is like, Oh, we can make that better. Oh, we could change that. Oh, I could fiddle with this. Oh, I can make that better. But my focus talent theme is the one that usually has to say, Hey, hey, no, no, no, no. Priorities over here. Hello, that was a squirrel. And so when my maximizer is misbehaving, what if I say I'm going to give my maximizer a different job. And so instead of tweaking everything, I put it on the thing that I've actually been longing for. that the thing that I have that little dream in the back of my head, but it doesn't get airtime because I've been too busy with my tasks. So you could redirect that same talent in a different angle and get the result that would allow us to be living out the dreams, living out the things we're longing for. These talents can help you figure out what you really want out of life. Yeah, it's so good. I love where this is going. Yeah, what a fun one. So then what if you're a person listening to this and you're like, I don't really yearn for anything. I don't have dreams. Yeah, I have some goals, but those are my work things. And that's what I'm after. I just am out there attacking my work objectives. Like if someone doesn't feel like a person who can dream or long for something, what are things you've done to be able to begin to open that up for people? Brea Yeah, I think, again, having the awareness of your CliftonStrengths language is super helpful because often what I see is that people who may not resonate with yearning, longing, dreaming, these long-term feeling words, it's because they're high in adaptability or they're high in talents that are here and now, right? They're not thinking about the future, they're not really inspired to sit here and say, what do I want out of life? Because what they want is to be responsive in the moment. That's where they thrive. Right. And so I I love how you started this episode, Lisa, reminding us that yearning doesn't have to be long term. It doesn't have to be, you know, so far out into the future. It really is as simple as why am I attracted to this thing? Why do I like this type of movie instead of that type of movie? Or why am I attracted to this person or this type of humor or fill in the blank with anything? You know, what is it that pulls us toward certain things and certain people and certain ideas and certain topics and not others? That's what we're talking about here. That's what gallop means by yearning. Lisa Yeah, that's really interesting. You're making me think of a person I know who leads through adaptability, connectedness, and I think a ranger. So very much present right here, right now, talent themes. And I remember one day she was talking about how she lived at the beach in a place where she could have the windows open most of the year. Just being present, hearing the ocean, having the waves, having nature kind of envelop her even when she was in the indoors, all of that is no surprise when you think about why she ended up buying that place where she did. And it was those yearnings turned into a manifestation of her life…her actual physical life…because she wanted to be right here right now with the sounds of the birds and the waves. And those represent adaptability, connectedness, arranger. Her, being present in the moment, is living out a yearning. Brea That's right. So if you go up to someone like that and you say, what do you dream of? What do you yearn for? They're like, this is it. Like, this is my dream right here. I'm living it, you know, right now. And I think that's so beautiful. The whole point of recognizing this clue to talent. and identifying the yearnings in our hearts is to make them come true. And so for those who have maybe a shorter timeline and are happy living out that yearning every day, just really leaning into the moment, I think is such a beautiful expression of that talent. Lisa It really is. It's interesting because it almost sounded like at the beginning we were saying, if you lead through the future thinking talent, you'd be more apt to live out your yearnings. But we're totally making the point right now that you, you're absolutely likely to do it if you live it in the moment. Before we close, I want to make sure we dip into the workplace for a moment, because I also think these yearnings are true at work. Like, for example, if you lead through belief, you yearn to understand the values and where someone's coming from and get your belief in the thing. Because if you don't understand it and believe in it, you might not be able to execute on it with gusto. Or if you lead through intellection, you might find yourself really yearning to be a deep subject matter expert on something. So they also show up in the things that you're attracted to in your roles and I see it all the time. People have heard my example over the years so many times of a guy who said he loved the escalation calls from customers because he yearned to solve their problems. Brea that are natural for you, you want to do them. So knowing what your talents bring is so important. You can look at, you know, what is it that I want to do? What are the things on my task list every day that I do? No problem. And what are the things that I procrastinate? What are the things that I don't want to do? That also clues us into our talent or lack thereof, right? That's right. Which if we look at that from that angle, then we can start to see the patterns of, okay, I don't want to do this. You know, maybe that is dreaming, you know, a vision board or at work, it's just a specific task that you're always putting off or you're always trying to delegate or you're always trying to get off your plate. Why is that? Well, it's because the talent isn't there. So how can we identify where the talent is? Well, look to your yearnings. What is it that you really desire? Lisa This is funny, but you made me think of the totally corporate thing that we've done so many times over the years of making a stop-start-continue list. And those stop items are going to be the non-yearnings. And then the start and continue are probably some clues to talent. They can bring you inspiration for clarifying what you really want out of life. As we end the show, I'll offer to include a resource, which is a replay of that event that I did. It's just an hour on dreams and aspirations, and we crowdsourced a bucket list while we were on there. So if this is something that has grabbed your attention and you have not been in touch with your own yearnings, then in the show notes, we'll have the link out to the replay of that and to that bucket list we created. How about you? What's a favorite resource? Brea Yeah, so the thing that comes to...
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What to Expect When You Take The CliftonStrengths Assessment
08/18/2024
What to Expect When You Take The CliftonStrengths Assessment
About This Episode Are you getting ready to take the CliftonStrengths assessment? This episode is for you! Between the two of us (Lisa & Brea), we’ve facilitated tens of thousands of these bad boys. So, we share the ins and outs of ‘what to know before you go’ - CliftonStrengths edition. In this episode, we answer questions like: “How long will it take?” “Is this a test?” “Will it put me in a box?” “Top 5, Full 34, Managers, and Leaders…oh my! How do I know which one is right for me?” …and plenty more! As always, you’re in for lots of laughs, personal anecdotes, and practical tips. So, what are you waiting for? Let’s dive in! Work With Us! If you’re thinking about introducing your team, department, or organization to the CliftonStrengths assessment, BREA is ready to help you every step of the way. Don’t get tripped up in the details. From purchasing codes and distributing codes, to facilitating the assessment, collating reports, and leading a workshop to help you understand what it all means…she’ll take care of it all! Visit to schedule a call today! To work with LISA, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Embrace your uniqueness. The CliftonStrengths assessment is not a test with right or wrong answers. It's an opportunity to discover what makes you unique and special. By entering the assessment with an open mind and embracing your natural preferences, you can uncover your innate talents and strengths that can help you thrive in both your personal and professional life. Go with your gut. Rather than overthinking or trying to fit into a specific mold, trust your natural reactions and preferences. By tapping into your instinctual responses, you will uncover your greatest areas of potential - your natural talents! Leverage your results for success. After taking the assessment, many individuals are pleasantly surprised by how accurately it reflects their strengths and talents. The CliftonStrengths assessment can provide valuable insights into how you work best and what comes naturally to you. By leveraging these results, you can align your strengths with your goals, whether in the workplace or at home, and unlock your full potential for success. Take Action ● Download the checklist for “How To Take the CliftonStrengths Assessment” at . ● Do it! Take the assessment! Click here to . Let’s Connect! ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | AI-Generated Transcript Lisa Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea And I'm Brea Lisa And today's topic is taking the CliftonStrengths assessment. Brea Woo-woo! Lisa All the things to expect. Brea, do you want to start with just kind of going back and forth, almost lightning round style, where we share with people what to expect when they open this thing up? Brea Totally. So first of all, it's not a test. This is not something that you can fail. This is not something that is graded, okay? So it's an assessment that is looking at what's good in you and there are no wrong answers. So I think first off, that's where I'd love to start is just enter into it knowing that there are no wrong answers. You can't do it wrong. There's no way to mess it up. Just go in and just be your lovely self. Lisa Agreed. And if you are a strengths coach, or you are internal inside of corporate, and you're doing this with your team, and you think people might even find the word assessment scary, like, Ooh, there is a right answer. They're assessing my, whether I'm good. I also have had plenty of clients use the term survey, and it goes totally fine. So yes, call it what is going to make sense to the person taking it and not feel like an evaluation of good or bad. Brea Yes. Love that, Lisa. Just don't use the word test ever. It's bad. Love. Don't do it. Lisa Yeah. You're going to turn the team off and they're going to be like, I don't want to take a test. Thank you very much. No thanks. Brea How do you recommend people start approaching this, Lisa? Lisa Well, one of the most important things, in my opinion, is just to give people an idea of the time it will take so that they can carve out the right amount of time. I think asking people to be sure they have an uninterrupted 45 minutes. I know some people will say 30 minutes or something shorter, but I like to go for 45 because you might have people who take it a little bit slower, and they might read the opening screens a little more slowly. And that way you've covered it, like they block, then they're going to probably block off an hour. And that those are uninterrupted minutes, because you can't pause it. And If you let them tick by, they're going to be counted as neutral. Those answers are going to get thrown out. And Brea, what's going to happen if they get a bunch of neutrals? Brea Well, if they get a bunch of neutrals, it's, I mean, they don't even show your results. You know, it's kind of nullified and void. So not only do you waste your money and you waste your code, but you've put all that time into it and you didn't even get what you were looking for. So, you know, it's hard because a lot of people like, well, it depends, you know, I don't know if I'm strongly like this or not strongly like this. It depends on the situation as much as you can try to err on one side or the other of that median. And that will help your results so much. Lisa Yes. And like, if I think of an example, here's what it's like. It's a bunch of questions. Actually, there are 200 questions. So you can imagine, in 45 minutes or less, zipping through 200 questions. They only give you 20 seconds each. And And it's a this or that. It's like, do you like cats or dogs? Now, those are not actual questions. You're not going to be asked things like cats or dogs, but I'm just doing it so that you can see an example of how you might be like, well, yes. And yes, I love both of those. I have to be neutral because I can't pick a cat over a dog. Other people are going to be like, dogs clearly are winners. And then you're going to strongly agree with that. And there are a couple of notches that you can do the strongly agree. The main point that I want to get out there is in this this or that exercise 200 times, you might feel like yes and yes or no and no. And you might feel so strongly that I dislike them both equally. That's what the neutral is for. But it really would need to be absolutely equal. Try to give it a weighting. on one side or the other. And just go with instinct, not what you're supposed to say, not what your role calls for today in the job, not what it's like at home versus at work. Just at your natural preference or instinct, what is the answer? Go, and don't overthink it. Brea Totally. And I think if you get stuck, a good way to approach it is to think about when you were a kid, how might you have answered the question? Maybe not literally in your childhood, but the idea is it's not looking for skills. or knowledge or things that you've acquired as you've, you know, aged and grown and gone through life. These are natural patterns of thought, feeling and behavior. So when you're stressed, how might you, you know, if you're stressed in some way, you have to make a quick decision. What's your first instinctual, emotional reaction, don't answer as you think you should or as a good person or the right thing to do. How do you want to respond in that moment, in that situation? What feels most natural for you? And that's the right answer. That's the best answer. Lisa Yeah, and I will add to that in the kind of team or corporate environment, every once in a while, people are like, well, I've done these before. And you know, I did, I did disk with my team back in the day. And if you were an S, then you were not the good group. And so people have had some experiences with something. I don't want to beat up disk because it can be really amazing if done well. But they've taken other assessments and they've had a bad experience. And when they do the workshop, as it unfolds, there becomes a good answer and a bad answer for that corporate culture or for that team. And that's really not ever something I've seen happen with strengths. So the thing is, if you do what Bria just said and you pick what naturally feels good to you. You pick your preference. There's not going to be a good answer or a bad answer. Every result that comes out is going to be something good that the team wants from you. So I love how the results show your success factors. And not good behavior, bad behavior. I have never seen teams demonize a theme or a group of these themes that come out. So I feel like you can rest easy knowing, no matter what your results are, they're going to show your easy buttons for success. they're not going to put you in a good crew or a bad crew. Not to mention, there are 34 potential talent themes that come out on the Strengths Report. So it's not like you can say, Well, No. 1, these 10 are great for our team. These 2 are not. There are just too many of them. So it is totally in your best interest to answer with your instinct. Brea Totally. And just remember, what is all this for? Well, it's to discover what you naturally do best, how you naturally work or live as your best self. So to hide that because maybe you've learned to play smaller than you are or you've learned that people who have certain behaviors get ahead, you know, or whatever. If you're fitting yourself into those boxes, CliftonStrengths is your opportunity to just break down those walls and break down those barriers and really, really discover and celebrate what makes you unique and special. in a way that allows you to thrive. So one of the common objections that people have are hesitations to taking this assessment is I don't want to be put into a box. This really is as opposite of that as possible. This is breaking those boxes and it's saying you are one of a kind and we want you to be able to show up at work as your best self. So let's figure out what that is and then let's leverage it and use it for your success and for the success of the team. Lisa Yes, well said. Oh, I think there are a couple more things that I would want to move back toward the beginning. Before they ever start answering the questions, there are two things that I just thought of they might want to know about. As we were talking about, Hey, it's timed, it's 20 seconds, give your instinct, be ready to zip through this uninterrupted time. If you are a person who says, oh my gosh, but all through university, I had an accommodation. I had the timer taken off all of my tests. This is an actual thing for me. You can call Gallup's help desk and get the timer taken off if you have a reason for accommodation. So that is a thing. Just wanted to make mention of that. And it does tell you that when you redeem your code, if you pay attention to the first couple of screens, And then the other thing is there are multiple languages. There are actually dozens of languages you can take the assessment in. So if English isn't your first language and you're more comfortable in another, that is available for you. And it's a question that some people want to know before they get into this thing. Brea Yes. Great practical tips. That's why you're a pro, Lisa. I love that. Lisa Thank you. Well, it takes away from instinct, right? Where you're like, wait, I'm translating in my head for the whole 20 seconds. Brea Yes. And if you are planning to take it in your native language, there's no worry about how that affects the overall group. Your manager or your team leader or whoever will be able to see your results in English or in their primary language. So even if you take it in a different language, they'll be able to see your results in their native language. Lisa Yeah. And I think depending on the type of assessment you take, so you can choose a top five report, which is the basic standard. You can take a full 34 report or get the full 34 report, I should say. Taking the assessment is the same no matter what. It's which report you've paid to see. So the top five is the standard basic. You can also do versions that are role specific. There's one called CliftonStrengths for Managers. There's one called CliftonStrengths for Leaders. And there's one called CliftonStrengths for Sales. And those are all Top 10 reports. They show a little bit more to you. And then there's a full 34, where you can see the stack rank of all of the 34 talent themes from 1 to 34. No matter what, Gallup knows your stack rank from top to bottom. And And then if you pay to unlock, you can see the greater amount. So I think that's nice to know, because you'll see in your own personal intensity order from top to bottom, it doesn't mean your strengths are at the top and your weaknesses are at the bottom. But it means you'll get your strongest through supporting through lesser. I think that's nice to know, because when you're when they're taking it, I experienced from my corporate clients, sometimes they're like, Well, is it going to show what I'm terrible at? And then I'm going to get exposed at work." No, it's going to show what your top easy buttons are. It's like a showing of your top success factors, which things should you lean on in order to most easily leverage what makes you great. And that's what this list of talents is showing. Brea Yes. So this is so good, Lisa. I just want to reiterate and maybe clarify a little bit the difference between the assessment and the report. So this is such a great point that you're making. The assessment is the survey that you take, the 200 questions that you answer. There is only one CliftonStrengths assessment. It's put out by Gallup. There are no free versions of this. Anything else is an imitation. Gallup has one assessment. Everybody takes the same assessment. then you have the choice of which report you want. I think the full 34 is the best place to start. That's just my personal opinion because it shows you your full 34 profile, which there are 34 total talents. So like Lisa said, you get to see that full ranking, but you can choose to do just your top five. You can also choose to do a different report that's taking your results and describing it for your role as a manager, or for your role as a leader, or for your role as a salesperson. All the reports, all the results use the same data from the CliftonStrengths Assessment. Lisa Yes, that is a great distinction. And also mentioning the free imitations and some of those things. That's great to know about. You also made me think about things that they say after taking the assessment. I don't know if you've heard of any kind of trend quips, but I have a couple that I hear people say over and over. And one of them is, I'll show up in a large workshop, and somebody grabs me beforehand, and they're like, Hey, Is this some sort of, like, try-to-catch-me-lying thing? Because it asked me the same question, surely, it was 10 times, and I thought that was so weird. Why does it keep asking me the same question? Am I lying? That's so funny. No, it's not any kind of lie-catching algorithm. Think about the this or that. Do you like dogs and cats example that I gave? But what about if you say, I don't know, I'm kind of neutral. I absolutely adore dogs and cats equally. I cannot decide. You click neutral. But then if it says, what about cats versus snakes? And you're like, oh, I love cats compared to snakes. Well, see, you didn't give cats the vote before, but now you gave cats a high vote. And so that's what it's doing. It's taking it and putting it next to something else. Because how else is it going to make a stack rank if it doesn't give you multiple scenarios with the same thing? You're not in a trap if it keeps asking you the same question. Do you have anything like that you have heard? Brea I've never heard anybody say it quite like that. It's just making me giggle. Lisa Yeah, this is good. There's one other one I've heard several times. People are like, how does it come up with those questions? It's funny because some people are like, yeah, it's just really transactional. It gives you just a bunch of preferences. And then other people are like, it's asking me about whether I'm sensitive or I like history movies or something and there they have a little bit of an interpretation memory of what the questions were. But again, it's just asking you questions that get to these themes of talent that reflect how you think or feel or act when you're at your natural best. Most of the questions from workplace standpoint don't surprise people but there are a couple in there where they're like whoa this is like deeper life stuff and I think that gets to the theme of just this is you as a whole person don't try to answer it as the work you and separate it and say well the home me would be like this and the work me would be like that because the truth is You are a person, and you might reveal more of yourself at home or work. But back to Bria's point about just, like, give your instinct answer. That is a key part of what to expect here. Brea I love that. Yeah, I think what I hear most from people is just, wow, how did that know me so well? You know, like it totally nailed it. So not always, but most of the time people just love their results. Maybe that's just my positivity that remembers those comments more, but most of the time that's, you know, what I hear is like, wow, is this a crystal ball, you know? Lisa Yes. Well, now I lead through positivity in my Top 5 as well. So maybe we're introducing a bias here. But I will say I, I know that I hear that often. And they'll say, Gosh, based on the questions, I'm so surprised at how it came to this and how it describes me. I've had people say, Whoa, this report, it has said the nicest things about me than anyone has ever said about me. And then I have a lot of people say, Wow, this really nailed me and brought some unique perspective into the way that I work or think that I've, I've never been able to put into words. And then we, of course, can put it into their career brand and team assignments and all kinds of useful things. But it is always a surprise to a good handful of people how those questions translated into the outcomes and the, the talent themes that come out in the report. So I love that you brought that up. Brea I love that and I want to squeeze one more quick practical thing in. A lot of times people take this at work and then they're like, wow, can my spouse take this? Can my kids take this? Can I use this at home or can I take this to a more personal place? And the answer is yes and absolutely. If you're thinking about kids, Gallup recommends adults take this CliftonStrengths assessment, which is usually like juniors and seniors in high school. and up. So if you have little kids, this is not the assessment for them. Gallup does have another assessment for them, but 18 and up or, you know, a junior who is just maybe a little bit ahead, I think I've used it with some juniors and seniors. Beautiful. Lisa Yeah. Great mention in that CliftonStrengths for Students. And what's the book? Strengths-Based Parenting that Gallup put out, where there are some codes that you could use with your whole family? Brea Yeah, it's amazing. I think Strengths-Based Parenting actually includes two...
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How to Pick a Coach
08/08/2024
How to Pick a Coach
About This Episode So, you’re ready to engage with a coach. Awesome! But there are SO many different coaches out there. How in the world do you choose? Lisa and Brea are here to help clear through the confusion and get you on the right path. This episode is all about how to choose the coach that’s right for you, right now. Listen in as Brea & Lisa discuss what to look for in a coach, the different types of coaches available, the importance of finding a good fit, and more. If you're considering working with a coach, this episode will give you some great insights and advice. Check it out! Work With Us! If you need a Strengths Hype girl, for yourself or your team, connect with BREA at . Whether you bring her in to deliver a keynote, training, or workshop… or, you’re looking for an expert guide to support your internal Strengths efforts… Brea’s ready to create a custom solution for any need, any budget. To work with LISA, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. Takeaways Not all coaches are created equal: For as many different reasons you might hire a coach, there are different types of coaches out there. Just like an athlete might have several types of coaches for different needs, understanding the different types of professional coaches will help you pick the one for you. Finding the right ‘fit’ is super important: Connecting with a coach is essential for your success. Look for a coach who aligns with your personality and communication style. Inquire about their coaching style and approach. If you’re a coach, remember – assessing fit goes both ways. The most successful coaching relationships are ones where there’s a mutual fit. The role of a coach: A good coach will act as a mirror, reflecting back what they see and hear. This can help you observe your own brain and identify patterns you may not be able to see on your own. A strengths coach will do this with a unique focus on what’s already strong in you. Take Action Reflect on Your Needs: Begin with the end in mind. Think about where you are now, where you want to go, and what you need to get there. What do you want to achieve through coaching? Do you prefer a coach who provides direct advice or one who helps you observe your own thought patterns? What type of coach will best support your goals? Schedule a Discovery Call: Take the first step by scheduling a discovery call with a potential coach to assess fit and understand their coaching style. Let’s Connect! LISA | | BREA: | | Remember, you already have everything you need to succeed! Sometimes, you just need a coach to help you see it. 🌟Reach out to a coach today! AI-Generated Transcript Lisa Hi, I'm Lisa. Brea And I'm Brea Lisa And today's topic is how to pick a coach. Brea How do you pick a coach? Oh, man. What a great question. Lisa I know it makes it makes me go in a lot of angles. And the first one is so many people I run into don't even know what a coach is. Of course, they know what a basketball coach is. And when you get into our world of strengths coaching, they're often thinking strengths and conditioning coaching for sports. And then what about the rest? And I want to hear your opinion, Brea. For me, I think there are a lot of kinds of coaches. Of course, people have heard of a life coach. Maybe people have heard of a CliftonStrengths coach because of our world. But then also, I think of other categories like a position coach would be in sports. So if you were on a basketball team, would you have a position coach for a forward? Or would you have a strength and conditioning coach more for other elements of the game? So I think that is important. You could have a business coach, you can have an entrepreneurial coach, you could have a position coach who's actually been an expert in a role that you've been in, then you can have a mindset or growth coach kind of person who helps you observe your brain. You could have an accountability coach. You could have a mentor coach who's been there, done that, and they're more advicey, whereas most coaches are going to be asking you the questions so that you can make the self-discovery. But that's not all there is in coaching. So once your experience, when you think about things like, what even are the genres of coaches that are available out there to people in the world beyond sports. Brea Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm imagining myself as the person looking for a coach and I'm already scared. My head is already spinning. There are so many options and I don't know where to start. And what even is coaching and what do I expect? And it's a lot of money and is it going to work? I'm excited that we're having this conversation. I like the role coach. I see a lot of people that come in for that. They're in a new position at work. Maybe they just got a promotion or they're trying to get a promotion or they are in a managerial role, let's say, and so they want to be coached on how to be a better manager. Or maybe it's a parent who comes to me and says, hey, I have been pretty good at parenting up until this point. And then I had this other kid and like, wow, they are very different than me. And I just like the way I've disciplined the other kids not working anymore. What do I do? So whatever the role is, I think I see a lot of people that that come for that. Yeah. Lisa Yeah, I think that's great. And the same thing that you just described with parents, it happens with managers all the time where they say, Hey, I had this team and we were amazing together. And then these two people came in or something happened to someone on the team and everything changed. And I just can't get that feeling that I'm a good leader anymore. What's going on and taking that next level. And your growth. So I think what that brings me to is the idea that if you can pick a problem to work on, or a challenge to work on, even if that challenge is, Hey, I want to become a great leader. Or let's say you have something in your mindset - there's some narrative that comes on replay. I had one recently where a guy was like, “I'll never make over $100,000.” And he, he caught himself and said, “I don't know why that story replays in my head.” Those are great things to get a coach for, because they can help you get in there and get that out of there. But they help you observe your brain like that. Or something really specific you want to do really well at, like you said, come into the new job and do really great and get results. Anytime you have that challenge, obstacle or that next level you're trying to reach, aiming the coaching experience at something specific, I think, to your point about it being an investment, that's where you're going to tell the coach what you're wanting to get out of it so that you're aiming them at where they're taking the questions and the process. And then also, you're more likely to know whether you got something out of it, because it's not just a nebulous conversation about nothing. It is really directed at something you want to achieve. How do you view that when it comes to picking a CliftonStrengths coach? Brea Yeah, I mean, you're right. So many people think of life coaching. It's such a vague place to be. What are we going to even talk about? How are they going to help me? And yeah, so bringing your own problem or just your aspiration. I love working with people who have a specific challenge that they're trying to hit. How can we use your strengths to do this and do this successfully and with excellence and ease and enjoyment and all the things. I also really, really love working with people who are absolutely crushing it at work and at life or whatever. And they're like, gosh, this is going really great. How can I get more? How can I get more of this awesomeness? And as strengths coaches, we can do that. And I think there are many different kinds of coaches out there who can do that. So yes, it might be a problem. It also might be that you want to continue to grow in whatever way. Lisa Yeah, I think that's big because those are also people who are more likely to want to hire a coach, the ones who are always trying to uplevel, always trying to grow, always trying to become a better person or more of who they can be. Or even just the dreamers who say, I have this big aspiration and no one around me gets it. And either I get made fun of or no one understands. I just need someone to talk these kind of things through so that I can be my own compass instead of getting kind of slung around by the people around me and the reactions of people around me. I think it's a nice way for people in that situation to upgrade their peer group, so to speak, by finding a CliftonStrengths coach and having someone around them who really believes in them, often more than the coachee believes in themselves. Brea I love that. Earlier you were talking about limiting beliefs. We all have them. We're all working to overcome them. But to have a coach who actually has your best interest at heart, they really want you to win. I think that's what the best coach brings is they want you to win - whatever that means for you. That's all they want. They're not there with their own agenda. I've had some people come to me and they say, what can, what can I expect from coaching? You know, what's the outcome here? And my answer is always, well, what do you want? What do you want to get? Where do you want to go? That's for you to decide. If you can ask yourself that question and get really clear and bring that to your coach and say, look, Here's where I am today. Here's where I want to go. Then it's the coach's job to help you get there. That's it. And a lot of times what ends up happening, at least in my experience, I don't know, Lisa, if this is how you coach as well, but sometimes what people come in with we discover is not actually the real thing. There's usually something underneath the thing that is getting in the way or a limiting belief they may not even know they have. And so a good coach is, of course, going to be listening to what you ask for and also listening to what you're saying that you may not even know yourself and be able to reflect that back to you. It's good to have that expectation up front and to be open to there being something more - that maybe neither of you are seeing at the beginning. Lisa I love that point and how what it makes me think of is how so often, they'll come in with one thing. And then they're in the middle of the third call in, and they say, “Oh my gosh, I'm so frustrated with my mother in law right now.” And they're, they're talking about something that is totally off the path of where you've gone before, and they've come to you to help them get promoted in their leadership position. So they think it's off the table and they come in and they're saying, “Oh, my mother-in-law.” And then you say, Okay, and you help them step through what they can control, and how they're showing up in the situation. And they realize they can't change another person. And they would never expect that through your coaching conversation with them, where you can't coach the mother-in-law who's not there, and you can't control a third person's behavior. So if you help them see how they can show up in a situation and potentially change everything, both about how they view that person, how they decide to show up, and then they realize, Whoa, a coaching relationship, this could be anything, my mind's exploding. It doesn't have to be the thing I hired you for. It doesn’t have to be CliftonStrengths every time. I can change my mind three minutes before our call. I can talk about anything in life and you can help me up level and observe my own brain and see my patterns that affect the way my thoughts and feelings and reactions cascade through all of that. I think that's such a cool element of coaching that a lot of people discover. But now I'm going down a rabbit hole of what happens after you pick a coach. Can we back up to where you were going? Okay, you were getting down the idea of fit. And I would like to bring up the fact that most coaches will do discovery calls with you. So you can assess the fit with each person before you ever engage in the the money exchange - before you're ever actually engaged as a coach. As a professional coach, Brea, they're calling you. What do you hope they'll ask you? What would you advise them to be thinking of and going through when they're assessing fit with someone? Brea Well, gosh, this feels a little bit like one of my favorite movies of all time, The Wizard of Oz. I feel like the wizard, the man behind the curtain. I'm going to lift the curtain a little bit to what it's like on the coach's side. I'm actually assessing fit with the person on the other end of the call as well. So, I think the fit goes both ways, and personality is a huge part of that. Just like when you meet someone on the street, you're going to know how you feel with that person. Can you communicate easily and freely? Are the questions that you're asking being heard? Are you being listened to? Sometimes there are really great coaches out there that just have a different personality, different communication style, or for whatever reason, it's just not a good fit. And communication is key in life, but especially when it comes to coaching. So find someone that you feel safe with, someone that you feel like, I can talk about anything, right? You feel free and safe and heard. For me, that's, that's what I look for in a coach. And that's what I hope to provide to the people that I coach. Lisa Yeah, I mean it really does say it all. I think of it pretty simply too, just do you like them? Yeah. Do you respect them? If you totally don't respect them and they're saying things or even asking you questions, And it's in a way that you can't receive them, even if they're good questions for someone else, but they're not for you, then maybe you're not for each other right now. So that “style fit” to me, it's absolutely so important. I think that fit is important in all the ways. Even my replacement for the concept of selling is just like assessing fit. It's same goes for workshops, the same goes for coaching for any of those. Relationships, are we good for each other? And you want both parties to get something out of it. You want the person making the investment, the coachee, to say, Oh, my gosh, these hours change my life hour by hour, this is more than worth it. And you want the coach to feel enriched and growing and invested. And you want that to be mutual, a mutual benefit. And I love exactly what you said. And I also think that once you choose, it doesn't mean you chose. We said in the title, how to pick a coach. And I really specifically didn't say how to pick THE CliftonStrengths coach, because you might have a lot of coaches over time. You might go for a group coaching versus a one-on-one at some point. I'm a variety gal. I've had lots of coaches. I love having lots of different coaches. I don't think I've ever had more than five sessions with the same person. And it's not because a single person isn't adding value, but I guess in a group program I have. But outside of that, as in a one-on-one, I like the variety of how other people can observe my brain and bring different things to me. And then I start to see trends like, oh, this person's reflecting it back to me. So did two coaches ago. So did one coach ago. And they've said it in really different ways. And it helps me personally grasp it more deeply. And I think if I had the same person, I might not have understood it in a way that I could actually make the change. So I happen to be a variety gal, and I'm not in it looking for a marriage. So how do you handle that, Brea? Long-term, group, one-on-one, how do you look at all of that? Brea Yeah, I think same. I mean, I've had so many coaches over the years, and even at the same time, it's kind of like the friends that are in my life. I go to certain people for certain things. If I need someone to tell me exactly what's up, I want them to hurt my feelings. I don't want a yes man. I know who to go to for that. If I need someone to help me think creatively, then I might go to someone else. And I have coaches that fit those different boxes. So again, begin with the end in mind, right? Know what it is that you're looking for, know what it is that you need to grow, and that will help you choose which coach you want. But also, maybe you're high in CliftonStrengths Relator and you need to build that relationship over time. Maybe you want someone who you can build a coaching relationship with. Then there are coaches who also love to do that, and they want to stick with you for the journey. There are other coaches like Lisa and myself who are like, Hey, show up for one time, and we'll just go with what we've got and see you later. Bye. You know? So again, knowing what you want to get out of it, I think is super important. Lisa Yeah, and what you just brought up, that's another fit element. I do that often. I have this get coached link on my site. I don't require a discovery call. I don't require a bunch of backstory. I don't require an ongoing relationship. I'll just do a one off and a whole lot of coaches don't or won't because there's a whole relationship thing that can go along with it that really enriches it. That that's a unique thing that you just drop in and get a coaching session. And a lot of CliftonStrengths and life coaches wouldn't like that. And a lot of coaches wouldn't get out of it with what they're hoping for. So that's another one, just the offering. You know how I was talking about genre of coach - position coach, mindset coach, accountability coach, mentor coach…and then you layered in this thing about how you want that person to help you think. You know, do you need someone to take you in a creative angle? Do you need someone to be straight with you and call you on your BS? I love that angle as well. There are all these filters and questions you can ask yourself. And sometimes even what you might prefer isn't what you need. And I thought that was interesting, as you were talking. Yeah, so okay, sometimes what I prefer isn't what I need. So what I prefer isn't someone who is slow and present, but is what I need, and is how I grow. When I'm in the vetting process as a coachee, I try to make myself aware of that - where the person I need isn't necessarily the person I love being around the most. I love when coaches are super direct with me. I enjoy a quick answer, a quick-witted person. I appreciate advice. And then also, that may not be what I need. A lot of times I need a coach who sits there with a lot of silence and asks you a question. And if you sit for 15 seconds, not answering. They will just sit there with you. Let your mind work. And let me get present with my challenge. Let me get into it instead of the surface level responses that we want to give. I mean, it's probably a coach joke at this point that people say, well, I don't know. And then coaches will say, if you did know. Brea Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was, oh man, the worst fit for me is to go to a coach and be like, I'm stuck here. I don't know where to go. And they're like, well, what do you think you should do? And I'm like, I don't know. That's why I'm here. Lisa And those are sometimes things like, could you...
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Getting Coached
08/04/2024
Getting Coached
To work with Brea, connect at . She helps with talent development for and also does 1:1 CliftonStrengths coaching for . To work with Lisa, check out team at the Lead Through Strengths site. For 1:1 strengths or life coaching, check out the link. For independent coaches, trainers, and speakers, get business tools support with our membership. About This Episode If you're curious about coaching or looking to make a positive change in your life, this episode is for you! Gallup says that over 80% of people who discover their CliftonStrengths do NOTHING after taking the assessment. What a shame. We know awareness of our strengths is necessary for growth, but awareness alone doesn’t create change. You must put the knowledge into practice. Coaching has (and continues to have) a powerful impact on our lives. That's why, in this episode, we discuss the 'next step' of working with a coach. Listen in as we share some of our personal experiences working with a coach, practical tips on how to engage with a coach, and even how to improve your own self-coaching. So, if you're feeling stuck or curious about exploring your strengths further, don't hesitate to engage with a coach or seek feedback from those around you. Remember, awareness from assessments is just the beginning. Coaching will help you apply your strengths for more ease, energy, and excellence every day. Takeaways External Feedback is Powerful: Having a coach can provide you with an external perspective on your strengths and potential blind spots. This perspective is unattainable on our own. Just like how we can't see our own face without a mirror, sometimes we need someone else to reflect back to us what we may not see in ourselves. A coach can help you uncover hidden talents and opportunities for growth you may have overlooked. Self-Reflection and Awareness: Self-reflection and self-awareness is fundamental in the coaching process. Taking the time to pause, reflect, and ask yourself meaningful questions can lead to profound discoveries about your true potential and aspirations. Invest in Yourself: Of course, awareness by itself isn’t enough. Whether you reach out to a professional coach or engage in self-coaching practices, making this investment is a valuable and powerful step towards transformation and growth. Take Action ● Engage with a Coach: Take the initiative to reach out to a coach, like or . ● Share Your Strengths: Dust off your CliftonStrengths report. Reread it to remind yourself of the goodness inside of you. Share your report with someone close to you and ask them to reflect on how they see your strengths showing up in your life. This external mirror can offer valuable insights and perspectives that may help you better understand your unique talents and behaviors. ● Create White Space for Reflection: Make a conscious effort to create white space in your daily routine for self-reflection and self-coaching. Avoid overfilling every moment with distractions and allow yourself the time and space to ponder on questions about your goals, aspirations, and areas for growth. By giving your mind the opportunity to wander and explore, you can tap into deeper insights and clarity about your path forward. Let’s Connect ● LISA: | | ● BREA: | | Listen to the full episode for inspiring stories and insights from the impact of coaching in our lives. If you're ready to explore the world of coaching and self-discovery, don't hesitate to reach out to us for guidance and support. Remember, investing in yourself is one of the best investments you can make! 🌟 AI-Generated Transcript Hi, I'm Lisa. And I'm Brea. And today's topic is getting coached. And more specifically, we're going to start with our first times getting coached and getting experienced with coaching and what this world even is. Brea, tell us about your opinion on this. The first time getting coached, first time doing a, an assessment like CliftonStrengths. Where do we go wrong? Where do we go? Let's dive into this one. Let's dive in. Oh man, my mind is spinning because for 15 years thought that “doing strengths” was taking the assessment. I've got my top five and I know my strengths. I took the assessment for the first time in 2001, 15 years later is when I talked to somebody about it for the first time. When I brought in a coach and that's where the transformation happened for me. So, yeah, I love this. Same. I waited a long time. I didn't know what a coach was. I was no idea. I knew what it was for sports. I knew every athlete needed a coach. I definitely saw the power of coaching. Someone observing your performance and talking to you about things you couldn't see for yourself. I had no idea in terms of our mindsets or business. There are so many types of coaches you could have. I didn't know it was a thing. In fact, the only perception I had of it was around performance issues in corporate. A lot of times people will talk about performance coaching when someone's on a performance improvement plan and they have issues. I actually had a little bit of a negative connotation when someone offered me coach in my first manager job. I was like, Oh, that's. Does that mean I'm getting noted for doing something wrong? And then luckily that's not what it was for. And also that coach really changed the way I was able to see myself. I absolutely agree with you. And I think that idea of having another human who can help you observe your brain in a way that you can't, can absolutely transform the way you operate in the world. And so many people don't know. That this thing even exists. They don't even know what a coach is. Oh my gosh. This is exactly what happened. I remember it so clearly in 2015, I had just moved from Kansas City to Dallas for a new job. And the president of this marketing company was bringing me in to essentially exit the company. He was looking to retire. A couple months into the job I bump into him in the hallway. He's usually out of town because I'm there now to run the day to day, but we bump into each other and I was just like, Hey, how am I doing? And he was like, Oh my gosh, it's so great. I feel so good. Being able to travel and knowing that Brea's got it taken care of down in Dallas. And I was like, oh, that's so great to hear. Thank you so much. He said, yeah, we should probably even talk about giving you equity in the company. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm doing pretty good, right? A couple days later, we have our scheduled weekly meeting where we just sit down and touch base and it's just He walked into the room and he fired me on the spot. No explanation. No, obviously no warning. It was very different than two days before, offering me equity in the company. I went home and I was just in tears and I was on the floor because I didn't even have furniture yet. It was still on order. It hadn't even arrived. So I'm in this puddle of tears on my apartment floor. And I just, I'm like, Oh my gosh, like what? What is happening? It has to be my fault, right? So that's what comes into my mind is what is wrong with me? And I had taken strengths before of course I didn't know where my assessment results were because you know Just like everybody else I put it in a drawer or trash can or whatever But it came into my head and so I get on the computer and I googled is strengths coaching a thing Wow honest Honestly, Lisa, just like you, I had no concept of professional coaching. I really have no idea where that question came from, but I Googled it and I found it. Hand to God, this LinkedIn article came up, the top 10 strengths coaches in America, which I've Googled is strengths coaching a thing several times since this experience. And every time it's strengths, like weightlifting, right? Yeah. So even the fact that I got what I was looking for, I think it's just a miracle. So of course I read the article, listen to this, Lisa. The number one strengths coach in America lived 15 minutes away from me. Oh, I went to her LinkedIn profile. This is how I know this. We had mutual friends on LinkedIn. She went to my church and. Her LinkedIn profile said that she was looking for pro bono coaching opportunities. And I was like I just lost my job. Pick me, this couldn't be a better timing. Yes. I have no idea what coaching is. I have no idea what I'm asking for, but my connectedness is like, ding ding ding. Like obviously I'm supposed to be a strengths coach, but I've, I have no idea that there was anything beyond the assessment. So that was a very long-winded response to, yeah, I get that coaching. What's coaching? Whoa. Now I want to hear what you thought of. So you obviously had to have engaged this person as your coach, right? I did. Yes. Then what did you then think coaching was? I didn't even know that I was asking for coaching or receiving coaching. Like I, I didn't even have that awareness, but I just knew that this feeling that I had retaking the assessment and seeing, rereading my strengths on the paper, it took me right back to my first experience in 2001 of I'm good. I just knew that I was supposed to be a strengths coach, but I had no idea what that was. So I thought I was asking her for an informational interview. How do you get clients? How do you make money? Do you make money? She invited me over to her home. She sat me down on the couch, poured me a glass of wine and five minutes into our conversation. She was like, Brea, have you ever been coached? Because it's apparent that I have no clue what the heck is going on. So she said why don't we start there? So I didn't even know that I. needed a coach or that, talking to someone isn't the same thing as an intentional coaching conversation. Because when she said, let's start there, we literally picked up our wine and we moved from the comfy couches back to the back of the house where her dining room table was. She pulled out her computer, she opened it up and we had a very different conversation. The energy shifted. Like I could tell, like we're doing something right now. She knew how they were getting in the way. And how they were controlling me instead of me being able to lead from my strengths. They were leading me, but not in a good way. And she recognized what I could contribute and what I wanted to do. She recognized that I love to start things and I love to come in early and get people moving and get people excited. What I remember most from that experience was one question. that she asked me. Tell us, what's the question? Yeah. So she said, what if that's your job to come in and start things? And I was like, what? You can do that? But that's the fun part. That's the easy part. My job is always to take it across the finish line - to do the hard work, to move it forward. That's what it had been in the past. That's what it had been. Yes. Who has a job where they don't actually have to do the whole job? We do. It was just, it was amazing because. How this translates to everyone listening is what if fill in the blank with the thing that you love to do the most, right? Fill in the thing that you would do for free, all day, every day, fill in the blank with the thing that just energizes you, that you find so much excellence in and enjoyment in. What if that was your job? Yeah. And that sets up coaching so perfectly because that problem we set up about how you can't observe your own brain. You can't see those connections she was making. And then in the solution of all of this, she's helping you remember. What you already know, if you just listen to your innate wisdom, if you just get closer to who you are, if you remember your awesomeness, this is, in my opinion, what coaches do that is so powerful. They help you observe what you can't see, and then they help you remember for yourself where you're headed, where you want to go, how you can align. You have so much power and potential in you that we just forget about. And they help you see it, but they help you come to it on your own. If they're incredible, like those questions, there was something that just clicked, and you're right. Coaches can help us see things that we don't see in ourselves. But most of the time, the reason we don't see them is because they are just so close to us that it's just so natural for you, to act in this way or to think this way that. We can't see it. We will never see our own face…ever. The thing that is closest to us, the very part of our body that sees, we will never see it. We will only ever see a reflection of it in a mirror or an image of it, in a photo. Or we can. Maybe have someone else reflect to us what they see on our face, like a booger or, a piece of spinach in your teeth. But we depend on something external to reflect, to give us feedback because it's so close to us that we will never see it. And I think that is True. Also with our behaviors and like you said, our brain and all those things. Yeah. And then a coach, because they have another brain, they reflect something to you that you already know if you had paused or if you really stopped to observe yourself, maybe you could pick up some of these things, but you get it from a different perspective. They asked the question in a way you wouldn't have asked it of yourself. They process it in a way they wouldn't have processed it. I remember when I had my first coaching experience, it was for this manager program. They assigned one to all of us. And I remember her saying, “Lisa, you can get your messages with a feather or a hammer…” “…And it seeming to me like you're choosing the hammer repeatedly.” And that's really stuck with me because it was about the same timeline, probably as yours. It's been a long time, but I remember those words because they struck me like a hammer. But they struck me because it's true. I was having this tendency to discard anything that felt like intuition, anything that felt like a gut feeling I would be like, Nope, that needs to be validated by logic. So I'd go through my logic process and make sure it felt good. Or I would work harder and harder and harder because I think there's some, something about the value of hard work because it felt hard. I thought that was more valuable. I would keep like brute forcing my way through things. She was talking about these feathers where she's the signs are there. The message is there if you'll tune in and listen to it. But when you start to get those messages, you shut them off and decidedly say, no, I'm gonna run it through this other process over here to make sure it's right. It's still something that I'm working on, letting in, and now I get my messages with something in between. I'm not now waiting for the hammer to take me down, but she's if you'll listen to the lighter voices, if you'll listen to the feathers, they'll guide you in the right way. Now those aren't words I would ever use. At the time that just felt so woo to me, the way she presented it, but she could ask these questions of me. About a time when I did listen, about a time when I did live a life aligned. With the way I imagined it. I remember her taking me through visualizations of a perfect morning and things like that, where I was like, wow, no one's ever asked me questions like this, and they felt so out of sorts for me, but also intriguing, but also not real life. It was just like, she's taking me through imaginary land, but I'm totally going to go there and imagine it. Yeah. At the same time. A handful of years before I used visualizations for sports all the time. And just because it was in another environment, I thought that's what you do, coaches do that sort of thing, or that's what I do to prepare myself to visualize how I want this game to go, but why not the game of life? I didn't. No, that was a thing. And I had to have a person take me through the experience before I ever knew what it would be like to coach someone else. You have to get coached and you have to experience someone else observing your brain and asking you the questions so you can remember your own awesomeness. Isn't that so true? And it's so funny how with things like sports, things like art, music. We don't call them coaches, but you get a music teacher. Maybe there are so many places in our lives where coaching or having that external feedback is applauded, sought after it's necessary even for growth, and when it comes to talent. It really breaks my heart to know so many people who over the years have told me, gosh, Brea you're so lucky that you have such great musical talent. I'm not talented. I'm just Joe Schmoe over here. For us to limit talent to athleticism or music or art. It's just so sad to me because everyone has talent and everyone will improve. There's exponential growth opportunity when we lean into that, when we invest in it. And coaching is one of the best ways to do that, to get that outside perspective. I just, I love it. It's there for everyone. Yeah. Accessible for everyone. I like how you proved that out with the pro bono experience that you had. So let's say if we ended with a favorite thing that could be a resource, a technique. Let's say someone's in the position you were in when you got fired, you're in the puddle on the floor, and you're like, thanks, I'm listening to this episode and I need a coach. And how am I going to get a coach? Or What am I gonna do with this info when I don't have the money to invest with one? What is something that would be. place. What's one of your favorite things? Yeah. My favorite thing is engaging with a coach and you never know until you ask. Reach out. There are coaches, there are so many different places and opportunities for you to connect with coaches. Don't be afraid to ask. But I think even before that, just talk to somebody about. If you can pull that out and just have a conversation with anyone, share it with your partner, share it with someone who knows you well and just say, Hey, do you see these things in me? Especially if there are things in your report that don't really resonate with you, either you read the words on the report and you're like, Ooh, that's not a strength. Or maybe there's something on there where you're like, I just, I don't know that's me. I don't really see that in myself. Give it to someone who knows you well and who sees you regularly, show up in your life and ask them, let them be that mirror back to you and say, yeah. I see this in you all the time. And let me tell you exactly when, I saw it last, allow them to be that mirror, even if they're not a trained coach, that feedback is still so powerful. That's a great one. It doesn't cost you any extra money. You already have the report and…bonus…they get to read all these nice things about you and then tell you about times when they show up. That's perfect! Bonus. Love a bonus. Love a bonus. I'm going to play off of your mirror theme because you were talking about how that self-awareness the most you're going to see is your own reflection. And something I see, especially with our corporate clients, but just anyone who lives that very busy life where you're always trying to cram in more and more. It's such a thing. To fill every crack, every moment that you can with something else. So if you're that person who does maybe right now you're listening to a podcast while you're out for a walk, while you're doing the dishes, while you're doing other things, I would actually say one technique that's worked very well for me for self-coaching is to require myself. To not fill those cracks with extra things,...
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Your First Strengths Experience
07/28/2024
Your First Strengths Experience
To work with Lisa, head over to To work with Brea, check out ABOUT THIS EPISODE In this episode, Lisa & Brea discuss how they were introduced to the wonderful world of Strengths, and how it impacted their personal and professional lives. Lisa discusses how reading "First Break All the Rules" as a manager changed her perspective on her team members and led her to appreciate their unique strengths. Brea remembers how taking the assessment as a freshman in college provided her with language to articulate and appreciate her unique qualities that were often misunderstood or undervalued. The co-hosts emphasize the importance of understanding and valuing the strengths of others, even if they differ from our own. They encourage listeners to explore all 34 talent themes and appreciate the value each one brings. The episode concludes with the concept of strengths as "easy buttons" that can make work and life more enjoyable and productive when leveraged effectively. LET’S CONNECT! LISA: | | BREA: | | TAKEAWAYS: Finding Value in our Differences - There is immense value that comes from embracing the unique strengths of individuals, even when they may initially seem challenging or different from our own. By recognizing and appreciating the diverse perspectives and talents within our colleagues, teams, families, and friends we can unlock new levels of creativity, collaboration, and success. Self-Discovery and Validation - Taking the CliftonStrengths assessment can provide us with a sense of self-discovery and validation. It provides language to help us identify and celebrate our innate talents, even those aspects of ourselves that may have been misunderstood or undervalued in the past. Transformation can happen when we use this awareness to seek out people, opportunities and environments that need what we have to offer, and value our contributions. Easy Buttons for Life - Strengths are "easy buttons" for life. By leading through our strengths, we can navigate challenges with greater ease, energy, enjoyment, and excellence. Instead of making things unnecessarily hard, we can leverage our unique talents as tools to guide us through both professional and personal situations. TAKE ACTION Share your story! Tell us about your first strengths experience as a podcast review on , , or wherever you listen to podcasts! Read by Marcus Buckingham Unlock your “” CliftonStrengths profile QUOTES "It's so difficult to change what you perceive as wrong with somebody, and so easy to leverage what is right." - Lisa “The assessment helped me value myself, and find people and opportunities and places that valued what I had to contribute." - Brea “You get what you focus on. If you focus on all the things people are not, or all the things you wish they could be, you're obsessing in the wrong area." - Lisa "Hard work doesn't have to feel hard. When we lead through our strengths, we get to use our easy buttons for more energy, happiness, and greater results." - Brea AI-GENERATED TRANSCRIPT Hey, I am Lisa. And I'm Brea. And today's topic is...your very first strengths experience. Ooh, I love it. This is a great one, Lisa. Let's talk about ours. I think we could introduce our first experience with strengths and people could really relate to why it makes sense to bring strengths into an organization, to a team, or for their own self development. What? Two ladies that lead with communication telling stories? Come on. Who'da thunk it? For me, it was the year 2000. I was a manager for the first time and I read First Break All the Rules. It felt a little bit rebel. I found that book. I could, I was so overtaken by it. It was like, struck with the awesomeness. It resonated with everything I felt on the inside, but had never heard or read about in a business book and I brought it into my team. So I had all my direct reports do it and I did it. And it was so insightful for me because I had a couple of people on the team that. As you take your team on, whether you're a new manager or not, you often inherit a team. And so they're not necessarily built the way that you would have hired it. And they're not necessarily who you would have selected. In my case, that was good for me because what I realized after doing the assessment with the team was a couple of people who I thought were really high maintenance. I realized. Oh, they're really valuable and I have not been able to see their value because they don't act like me, they don't think like me, they don't get the job done like me. And I had been wishing for that. And what I perceived as slow or resistant to change. Or dragging their feet every time we would try to implement something after doing the strengths at the time it was called StrengthsFinder. Yeah. And after doing that with everyone, I realized the value that came from their perspective and I, it just opened my eyes so much to how I had really wanted everyone to just be a clone of me, even though I didn't consciously know that. And those who I thought were high maintenance suddenly could be the other part of my brain that I didn't have. And I needed that kind of value on the team and it, and I didn't have a facilitator. I didn't have budget for a workshop. I just led my own. Cut Q and a with the team and we spent a half a day talking about our results and how they affect our work and how we could use those to benefit each other and our customers. And it was absolutely career changing. So that was my first experience. It's what got me hooked. I used it with every team after that. And then eventually in 2015, started doing this full time, but it definitely changed everything about the way I thought. It changed all the rules. Is that what you're saying? Pretty much. Let us rewrite them and rethink them and realize it's not what you think. I love that your story makes me think I wonder how many managers, leaders are out there just like you were, and they're hiring for value or strengths or talent, or however you want to say it, they're hiring for it. Outside of their company, right? They're spending time and money and resources when. It might just be a perception issue. Maybe the value is already there in the people on their team and they're missing it. What an amazing gift that was for you to be able to not just change your perception, the way you feel about the people on your team, but also to be able to maximize what they're able to contribute. That's incredible. It's such a good placeholder for what happens in work. It's what happens in people's relationships. When you're coaching people one on one, you hear about their intimate relationships where they're focused on what the person is not. Yeah. Instead of who they are and what they appreciate about them. You get what you focus on. If you focus on all the things they're not, all the things that you wish they could be, you're obsessing in the wrong area. And if you could spend some time in appreciation, understanding what they do bring, where they are coming from. Even then I thought I assumed positive intent. I thought I had a good perspective on all of this. None of this was, a conscious effort to say, I want you to just be exactly like me, but it was still happening. And I think because we have that, Negative cognitive bias as humans. We're always looking for the outlier thing or the risk element. So you look at the thing you need to fix and it keeps you stuck in what is wrong instead of exposing what is right. And leveraging it because it's so easy to leverage what is right. And it's so difficult to change what you perceive as wrong with somebody. What you just described - it's absolutely - it's such a stand in for the perspective we have, some of these natural tendencies we have, and how powerful it is if you actually just consciously redirect your brain into what already works. About them, what already is amazing about them and how you can use that for benefit, for themselves and for you and for the team, for the world. It's so true. It is so true. And also it's so hard because we don't know what we don't know. And we can only. We can only see the perspective that we see until we have different language. And this actually connects really well with my story. I was on the other side certainly as an employee where I felt misunderstood. I felt undervalued. I felt like my manager, didn't understand me and I felt like I had more to contribute and no one that wanted what I had to give, no one valued me. But it actually started even before that just. As a teenager growing up in my house with parents who are fantastic and also very different than me. When I would talk back to my mom as a teenage girl, she heard it as talking back, as pushing back, as fighting. I just wanted to be heard. My high communication knew that what I was trying to share with her wasn't being understood. And so I would try to clarify and try to clarify and try to clarify. So her perspective and my perspective, there's a mismatch there. Yeah. I can just imagine as a communication, so you're so high in communication and you might be asking questions to clarify and understand and think it through. And she's taking that as, Hey, sassy pants, why don't you get back in your place as my child. I was grounded pretty much my entire life because of that, and if I had known if I had the emotional awareness or the language of this is a talent, it's called communication or it's called command or it's called, whatever. I could have approached that differently, but I didn't, and if she had the language, she could have approached it differently, but she didn't. And so I think whether it's in a personal situation or in, an employee professional situation, do we value ourselves? That's what I, I think. What I got when I first took the assessment, I was a freshman in college. My, my college paid for all incoming freshmen to take the assessment, get their top five. And I remember reading this piece of paper that described qualities in me that I knew were true. I have always known that I'm a precious little snowflake and love that about myself. Okay. Okay. But now I have this piece of paper, it says these things about me and the things that I had been punished for, disciplined for, now are being praised. Now this piece of paper says, these are good about you. And I'm like, I know. So I think that's what the assessment brought to me was it helped me to value myself and it gave me language to, to help me. Kind of refine that and and look for people and opportunities and places that valued what I had to contribute. Oh, that's so incredible. It's making me think of this time when I had a one on one coaching with a sales executive and it, his first strengths experience. He was like, Yeah. I think I'm near tears because no one's ever said anything this nice about me. And it was, he was reading the report. He's literally talking about what the report is saying about him. And I'm like, yeah it's your inputs just reflected back and how these things could be amazing for you. And somebody else. Actually now sees it, puts it in words, frames it up in a way that could be useful instead of these liabilities or overuses. It's so cool the way it's oriented to what you already know about yourself. You already knew you were awesome. You just needed the. Yeah. But isn't it amazing? And I've, I know that we're not the only two, everyone listening to this has their own story. Maybe someday we'll have a way that they can come and leave comments. Do you have a place like that on your website where people can share their stories with us? What I think would be fun is if people left it in the review, if you could be like, come tell us in your review, what your first strengths experience was, where did you get exposed? Where did you turn your mind on to the fact that you're listening to this episode? Because you're at least curious about what it could mean to think from a strengths lens. So yeah, come tell us in the review of the show. Yeah. I love that because also that will help other people find the podcast and maybe find strengths for the first time. So they can have their own first experience. So great suggestion. Exactly. A nice tie into first experience because they come around and they look at what people have written and say, Whoa, maybe I need to give this a shot. Yes. So big shout out to all the managers out there who are ready to break all the rules. Really encourage you to keep listening here. To learn how to apply strengths in your teams and at work every day. And also big shout out to all of those in higher education who are making this available to your students. I have such a heart for strengths, at the college university level, because it literally changed my life. And. Gosh, I just said the thing that I always get mad when I hear other people say it. The assessment didn't change my life. It helped me to change my life. There's no magic bullet out there. Let me just say that. But it is so powerful. So shout out to all the people doing all the good work. Absolutely. Yeah. And I like that because you're introducing that favorite things section and mine for short, just tied into this episode would be go read first break all the rules. If you never read that book, especially if you're a people manager, it is really an incredible thought that here we are 20 years later after I read the book, I still think we're just Back where we used to be in terms of break fixing all the time and only being in problem solving and perfectionist mode in the workplace. And we've come, a long way in many areas, but still it's not as far as I thought it would be. So reading that book and thinking about the rules and the narratives that are in your mind that you could. Reframe. I would definitely offer that as my favorite thing for this topic. What about you? Tool, app, technique, book, anything that strikes you? I think. I want to encourage people to spend some time looking at your number 34 to identify the value that it brings. If there, 34 or something that's at the bottom of your report, if there's something that consistently frustrates you that's what I was thinking when you were telling your story, Lisa. There are people. Who felt like wet blankets or people who would always say no to my ideas or, my positivity got hurt, like often came from what was at the bottom of my report. I couldn't understand what value they were bringing. I would encourage anyone listening to pick a talent theme that's at the bottom of your report and study it and learn talk to people who have that high, learn what the value that it brings and how it can specifically bring value to you, maybe in your work position or even just to the world so that you can appreciate it and be fascinated by it instead of being frustrated. Ooh, that's a really good one. So I know I put you on the spot, but. Talking about the assessment itself. What a perfect link to a first strengths experience. If you're a listener and you don't have your full 34, because so many people listen, they say, what there are 34. I only have five. Just go to lead through strengths.com and in the main menu, there's a link called Buy codes where you can buy codes. You could get an upgrade code if you haven't done CliftonStrengths yet with the full report. And then you can see that bottom that Brea is talking about. That is so insightful. I love looking at the bottom two and saying, who is someone I know that I really respect and love, and I just find. Absolutely adorable as a human who leads through this so that I can then transfer their intent onto other people, like maybe the person who's annoying you and say, but if they're coming from this other same place as this other person I love, why is it adorable over here? Cause it might just be used very maturely on the person you think is great. And then it helps you make that transfer so that you can also see the greatness in that person. And that person who happens to be annoying you that day. I love that. Especially when it's not, when the theme is not natural for you, it's not the way that you think, feel or behave at a, an easy button level, right? It's so hard to read about it. And fully grasp it, and love it. So making that a person, taking a real life person that you know and love. I love that. At least I think that's super super powerful. Yeah. It's a great suggestion. Thank you. So if someone wants to work with you, Brea, and do things like, Hey, I've got my 34. What do I do with this? Walk me through it. What do they do if they want to work with you? Yeah. It starts with just a quick little conversation. You can go to my website, which is Brearoper. com and click the button that says schedule a call and we'll hop on the call and talk about how we might be able to work together. Spell Brea for them just in case it's B R E A R O P E R. com fabulous. And if you want to work with me, Lisa, yeah, leadthroughstrengths. com specialize in team retreats and taking people through these first strengths kickoffs as a team. And then I also support coaches in launching their tools to be able to spread this to the world. With that. I think my closing thought on this is just realizing that this idea of strengths being an easy button for your life is such an incredible thing you can take away. You get your first strengths experience and you realize, Oh, I was making everything a little bit too hard. So that's my kind of closing visual is imagine it like having A top five or a top 10 set of easy buttons to help guide you through all the circumstances that pop up in your work and your love and your life. How about you? Hard work doesn't have to feel hard. When we lead through our strength, when we lead through our strengths, then we get to use our easy buttons for more energy, more happiness, and greater results. And you just heard it in action with Brea leading through communication command with the perfect like Hard work doesn't have to feel so hard. Strengths in action right there. So closed up with a bow. Can't wait to talk to you next time. See y'all later.
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