All Things Internal Audit
All Things Internal Audit is a podcast sharing news and practical knowledge for internal auditors. Produced by The Institute of Internal Auditors, each episode features insightful interviews with knowledgeable pros, timely tips and the latest news about the profession. All Things Internal Audit is available everywhere you get podcasts. IIA Members get more podcast content in each episode. Visit www.theiia.org for more information.
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The IIA’s New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
06/24/2025
The IIA’s New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Logan Wamsley talks with George Barham about The IIA’s . They discuss how internal audit functions should prepare for its 2026 effective date, and why CAEs should take action now. The conversation also highlights the requirement's companion user guide, outsourcing considerations, framework references, and IIA resources available to help internal audit functions conform with confidence. HOST:Associate Manager, Content Development, The IIA GUEST:, CIA, CRMA, CISA,Director, Standards & Guidance, The IIA KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00-00:00:21] Background on the Cybersecurity Topical Requirement [00:00:21-00:01:31] Key Feedback and Early Implementation Advice [00:01:31-00:03:09] Tips from CAEs on Getting Started [00:03:09-00:04:37] How to Use the Companion User Guide [00:04:37-00:05:57] Outsourcing Considerations [00:05:57-00:07:30] Framework References and Mapping [00:07:30-00:09:37] Keeping Up with the Evolving Cyber Landscape [00:09:37-00:11:30] Annual Review and Updates [00:11:30-00:12:24] Advice as the Effective Date Approaches [00:12:24-00:14:26] Additional IIA Resources and Support [00:14:26-00:16:38] Final Thoughts [00:16:38-00:18:23] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Becoming a Strategic Business Partner
06/17/2025
Becoming a Strategic Business Partner
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy sits down with Rania Bejjani to discuss what it takes for internal auditors to become strategic business partners. From mindset shifts and organizational alignment to building trust and influencing change, Bejjani shares insights grounded in global experience. The conversation covers the evolving role of internal auditors, essential competencies, and how to earn a seat at the table by becoming a catalyst for strategic value. HOST:, CIA, CRMA, CISACEO and managing principal, Cherry Hill Advisory GUEST:, CIA, CGMA, Founder and CEO, RB Advisory & Consultancy Former CAE at VEON, FirstGroup and Colt Technology Services Key Points Introduction [00:00–00:00:37] Defining Strategic Business Partnering [00:00:37–00:03:15] Trusted Advisor vs. Strategic Partner [00:03:15–00:06:05] Earning a Seat at the Table [00:06:05–00:07:45] Shifting from Problem Identifier to Problem Solver [00:07:45–00:09:40] Transformation Starts with Self-Assessment [00:09:40–00:12:21] Hiring for Mindset Over Skillset [00:12:21–00:15:33] Why Emotional Intelligence Matters [00:15:33–00:17:56] The Multifaceted Auditor [00:17:56–00:20:43] Transformation in Action [00:20:43–00:25:34] Overcoming Resistance and Changing Perceptions [00:25:34–00:29:28] Closing Thoughts [00:29:28–00:29:59] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Leading Small Audit Functions: Strategies for Success
06/10/2025
Leading Small Audit Functions: Strategies for Success
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, George Barham talks with Skip Langlois about the unique challenges and opportunities of small internal audit functions. They discuss definitions of a small function, advice for starting one, managing expectations, building relationships and developing future leaders in a small audit environment. Langlois also shares insights on leveraging AI and why emotional intelligence matters as as much as technical skill in a small audit environment. HOST:, CIA, CRMA, CISA,Director, Standards & Guidance, The IIA GUEST:, CIA, CPA, CISA, CFE, CRMA Senior Vice President and Chief Audit Executive, Encova Insurance Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:38] Defining a Small Audit Function [00:00:56-00:01:22] Advice for Starting a Small Audit Function [00:02:03-00:03:48] Building Relationships and Credibility [00:04:12-00:06:06] Identifying Stakeholders and Internal Relationships [00:06:13-00:08:03] Scope and Focus of Small Functions [00:08:13-00:10:22] Networking and External Relationships [00:10:22-00:11:50] Making the Case to Expand a Small Team [00:12:15-00:13:48] Recruiting and Retaining Top Talent [00:13:59-00:15:24] Leveraging AI in Small Functions [00:15:35-00:17:15] Leadership Lessons from the Military [00:17:15-00:19:42] Final Thoughts [00:19:44-00:19:56] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Fraud Podcast: The Out of Control Controller
06/04/2025
Fraud Podcast: The Out of Control Controller
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast"The Out of Control Controller" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . This series provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In this episode, Bruce Kraus investigates a shocking embezzlement case at Allied Engineering involving longtime controller Jane Simmons. With lax oversight and too much unchecked authority, Simmons executes 11 different schemes over five years. From gift card grifts, to a ghost payroll, and a company car gone rogue, this case shows how even trusted employees can exploit internal control gaps. IIA members can access the full article . Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's , online and in-person. Chapters: Part 1: A Swipe Too Far (00:00:23) Part 2: A Wiped Drive and a Widening Scope (00:01:54) Part 3: A Pattern of Deception (00:03:14) Part 4: Aftermath and Lessons (00:05:49) Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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The New CIA Exam and IAP Program
05/27/2025
The New CIA Exam and IAP Program
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Christina Brune talks to Rick Walke and André Vertamatti about the major updates to the Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) exam and the Internal Audit Practitioner (IAP) program. They discuss the motivations behind the changes, how the updated Global Internal Audit Standards influenced the new exam, and what candidates can expect. The conversation also highlights the importance of aligning certification with real-world internal audit practices and the future of the profession. Visit the page on theiia.org for additional information. HOST: Director, Exam Development, The IIA GUEST: , CIA, CPA, CRMA, QIALVice President, Internal Audit and Risk Management, FORUM Credit UnionCommittee Chair, IIA Exam Development Committee , CIA, CPA, CRMAHead of Internal Audit, Volkswagen Financial Services Brazil and LM Soluções de MobilidadeVice Chair, IIA Exam Development Committee Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:37] Overview of CIA Exam Changes [00:38-01:42] Why Now? Motivation Behind the Updates [01:43-02:39] Incorporating the Global Internal Audit Standards [02:40-04:25] Testing Topical Requirements [04:26-06:01] What Candidates Need to Know [06:02-07:30] Study Options and Preparation Tips [07:31-08:33] Why the New Exam is Better [08:34-10:52] Impact on the Profession [10:53-12:20] Internal Audit Practitioner (IAP) Program Changes [12:21-15:38] Why IAP Updates Matter [15:39-17:38] Final Thoughts [17:39-18:38] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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From Prompts to Practice: AI-Driven Innovation in Internal Audit
05/20/2025
From Prompts to Practice: AI-Driven Innovation in Internal Audit
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Charles King talks with Debbie Lew about the transformative role of artificial intelligence in internal auditing. They discuss the integration of AI tools like Copilot, the importance of prompt writing, and how AI is enhancing audit processes. The conversation also covers training strategies, real-world applications, and the impact of AI on stakeholder engagement. HOST: , CIA, CPA, CFE, CIPP Partner, AI in Internal Controls Leader, KPMG US GUEST: , CISA, CRISC, CHIAP Senior Vice President and Chief Audit Executive, Kaiser Permanente Key Points: Introduction [00:00-00:38] Inside Kaiser Permanente’s Internal Audit Team [00:39-02:14] AI Adoption at Kaiser Permanente [02:15-03:21] Prompt Writing as a Core Skill [03:22-04:10] Guidance Manuals and Prompt Libraries [04:11-05:02] Building AI Agents to Support Audits [05:03-05:51] Training, Communication, and Driving Adoption [05:52-07:23] Innovative Applications of GenAI in Audit [07:24-08:28] Inspiring a Tech-Forward Culture [08:29-10:06] Final Thoughts [10:07-10:31] IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources. Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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AI Meets Agile Internal Auditing
05/13/2025
AI Meets Agile Internal Auditing
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, George Barham talks with Mike Callino about how agile methodologies and artificial intelligence are transforming internal audit functions. Mike shares practical insights on implementing agile auditing, the challenges and benefits of this approach, and how AI is being used throughout the audit lifecycle. HOST:, CIA, CISA, CRMA Director, Standards & Professional Guidance, The IIA GUEST:, CIA, CISA Senior Director, Internal Audit, Braze Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:27] Defining Agile Auditing [00:00:28-00:01:12] Applying Agile in Practice [00:01:13-00:03:03] Metrics for Agile Success [00:03:04-00:04:15] How Agile Auditing Has Evolved [00:04:16-00:06:06] Getting Started with Agile [00:06:07-00:07:28] Roles and Responsibilities in Agile [00:07:29-00:09:12] Measuring Agile Success [00:09:13-00:10:04] Training for Agile Adoption [00:10:05-00:11:20] AI Use Cases in the Audit Lifecycle [00:11:21-00:14:51] Common Misconceptions About Agile [00:14:52-00:16:12] The Future of Agile and AI in Auditing [00:16:13-00:18:48] IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Let's Talk Talent: Building a High-Performing Internal Audit Team
05/07/2025
Let's Talk Talent: Building a High-Performing Internal Audit Team
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, The IIA’s Lindsay Patterson talks with Anna Davis of Qualcomm about the crucial aspects of internal audit team formation and dynamics. They discuss hiring strategies in the current market, the importance of soft and hard skills, the challenges and benefits of remote and in-office work, and methods for fostering a strong team culture. HOST:, CIA, CPAExecutive Vice President , Membership, Marketing and Communications, The IIA GUEST:, CPAVice President, CAE, Qualcomm Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:22] Team Formation: Starting with Hiring [00:23-01:34] In-Office Work and Recruitment Challenges [01:35-04:13] Hard and Soft Skills and Business Acumen [04:14-06:00] Retention and Career Growth Opportunities [06:01-07:05] Team Size and Responsibilities [07:06-07:44] Building a Team Culture [07:45-10:32] The Value of Authentic Leadership [10:33-12:03] Advice for Aspiring Audit Leaders [12:04-13:44] Final Thoughts [13:45-14:44] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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EQ Meets AI: Enhancing Internal Audit
05/01/2025
EQ Meets AI: Enhancing Internal Audit
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Andrew Guasp talks with Alex Gacheche about the importance of emotional intelligence (EQ) in the internal audit profession, especially in the context of AI advancements. They discuss how EQ can enhance internal audit effectiveness, the role of empathy and communication, and the impact of cultural differences on EQ. From active listening to handling difficult conversations, this episode unpacks the human side of internal auditing. HOST:, CIA Senior Manager, Standards & Professional Guidance, The IIA GUEST:, CISAHead of Internal Audit, Information Security, Technology Infrastructure, Emerging Technology, and AI, Meta Key Points Introduction [00:00–00:01:16] What Is Emotional Intelligence? [00:01:17–00:03:34] Human Judgment with AI [00:03:35–00:05:01] Balancing Hard and Soft Skills [00:05:02–00:06:27] Developing EQ in Auditing [00:08:42–00:11:51] EQ in Communication and Reporting [00:11:52–00:13:16] Training for EQ Skills [00:13:17–00:14:31] Blending AI and EQ [00:14:32–00:15:49] Resources to Grow EQ [00:15:50–00:18:24] Using EQ in Remediation [00:18:25–00:21:42] EQ in Planning and Information Gathering [00:21:43–00:24:01] Cultural Sensitivity and Word Choice [00:24:02–00:26:32] Leading Multigenerational Teams [00:26:33–00:30:17] EQ’s Role in the AI Era [00:30:18–00:32:25] Leadership, Retention, and EQ [00:32:26–00:35:02] EQ in Walkthroughs and Meetings [00:35:03–00:40:47] Final Thoughts [00:40:48–00:41:53] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Supercharging Internal Audit: Implementing Advanced AI for Risk and Monitoring
04/22/2025
Supercharging Internal Audit: Implementing Advanced AI for Risk and Monitoring
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Charles King talks with Imraan Mulla about the transformative potential of AI in internal auditing. They discuss AI’s evolution from basic automation to advanced applications, the challenges of adoption, and the future of AI in internal auditing. The conversation also covers continuous monitoring, risk assessment, and the role of human judgment in an AI-driven world. HOST:, CIA, CPA, CFE, CIPP, Partner, AI in Internal Controls Leader, KPMG LLP GUEST: , Vice president, Analytics and Innovation, Capital One Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:21] AI's Evolution in Internal Auditing [00:21-01:08] Challenges of AI Adoption [01:08-02:16] Driving AI Adoption and ROI [02:16-04:31] The Future of Internal Audit with AI [04:31-05:57] Prioritizing Investments in AI [05:57-08:10] Continuous Monitoring and Targeted Audits [08:10-11:05] Flexible Audit Plans and Risk-based Auditing [11:05-12:29] Analyzing Unstructured Data [12:29-14:14] Human Judgment and AI [14:14-16:06] Building a Culture of Innovation [16:06-18:11] Internal Audit as a Beacon for Innovation [18:11-20:48] Agentic AI and Its Applications [20:48-22:49] Final Thoughts [22:49-23:19] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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The Last Laugh: Mike Jacka Unplugged
04/16/2025
The Last Laugh: Mike Jacka Unplugged
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Jacka talks with Anne Millage about his decision to end the “Mind of Jacka” blog after 900 posts. Mike shares some favorite posts, the origins of his ideas, and the role humor plays in his writing. He looks back at his internal audit career and offers his thoughts on the evolution of the profession. Read Mike's 900th blog post: Host: Director of content, The IIA Guests: , CIA, CPA, CPCU, CLU Chief creative pilot at Flying Pig Audit, Consulting and Training Solutions Key Points: Introduction [00:00-00:33] Overview of Mike's contributions to the internal audit community through his writing. Mike's Journey [00:34-02:19] Discussion on Mike's career in internal auditing and his decision to start the blog. Insights into Mike's unique approach to writing and humor in the internal audit profession. Decision to End the Blog [02:20-04:07] Mike explains why he decided to end the blog after 900 posts. Reflection on the milestones and reasons behind his retirement. Challenges and Causes [04:08-05:36] The challenges Mike faced while writing the blog. Discussion on the evolving nature of internal auditing and the profession's biggest challenges. Popular Posts and Audience Engagement [05:37-07:54] Anne and Mike discuss some of the most popular and commented-on blog posts. Insights into why certain posts resonated with the audience and sparked discussions. Humor in Internal Auditing [07:55-09:35] Mike shares his experiences with incorporating humor into his writing. The importance of not taking the profession too seriously and the impact of humor. Remote Auditing and Modern Challenges [09:36-11:08] Discussion on the topic of remote auditing and its effectiveness. Mike's views on the current trends and challenges in the internal audit profession. Future Plans [11:09-13:08] Mike talks about his future plans post-retirement. His continued involvement in training, writing, and other passions. Final Thoughts [13:09-15:57] Mike's advice for other internal auditors on writing and following their passions. The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Stopping the 5:00 PM Response
04/08/2025
Stopping the 5:00 PM Response
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy speaks with Adam Neifach about the challenges of late audit responses — what they call the “dreaded 5:00 p.m. response.” They discuss why audit clients delay engagement, how to foster collaboration, and practical strategies for improving responsiveness. Host:, CIA, CRMA, CISA, CEO and managing principal, Cherry Hill Advisory Guests: , CIA, CPA, CISA, senior manager of Internal Audit, Frontier Airlines Key Points: Introduction [00:00-00:43] The 5:00 PM Response [00:44-02:28] Explanation of the "5:00 PM response" and its impact on audit processes. Discussion on why audit clients delay engagement. Challenges and Causes [02:29-03:36] Adam Neifach shares his experiences with late responses and the challenges they pose. Exploration of potential reasons behind delayed responses, including inefficiencies and reluctance. Building Relationships [03:37-05:32] Importance of building relationships with audit clients to improve responsiveness. Strategies for fostering collaboration and understanding client perspectives. Proactive Communication [05:33-07:03] The role of proactive communication in preventing late responses. Techniques for maintaining open and constant communication throughout the audit process. Real-world Tactics [07:04-09:35] Adam Neifach shares real-world tactics from his own experience. Practical strategies for encouraging earlier engagement and ensuring smoother audits. Cultural and Generational Differences [09:36-11:08] How cultural and generational differences impact audit responses. Adapting communication styles to different stakeholders. Tactical Solutions [11:09-13:08] Specific tactics for dealing with delayed responses, including setting up pre-deadline meetings. Importance of addressing resource constraints and understanding client workloads. Escalation and Management [13:09-15:11] When and how to escalate issues to management without damaging relationships. Balancing the need for timely responses with maintaining positive client relationships. Final Thoughts [15:12-17:57] Final advice for auditors on improving audit response times and fostering collaboration. The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Fraud Podcast: Too Close to the Sun
04/01/2025
Fraud Podcast: Too Close to the Sun
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast"Too Close to the Sun" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In this episode, Chief Audit Executive Robert Soar investigates Summit HVAC’s disastrous acquisition of Tan Solar. Rushed due diligence had missed unpermitted installations, deceptive sales tactics, and mounting legal troubles. Soar uncovers critical oversights, highlighting internal auditors’ role in preventing costly missteps. IIA members can access the full article . Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's , online and in-person. Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:01) Part 1: Setting the World on Fire (00:00:23) Part 2: Burning Money (00:01:57) Part 3: Going Down in Flames (00:04:08) Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Agentic AI in Internal Auditing
03/25/2025
Agentic AI in Internal Auditing
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Warren Stippich speaks with Ethan Rojhani about the evolving role of agentic artificial intelligence in internal auditing. They discuss how agentic AI differs from traditional AI, its impact on risk assessment, and the skills internal auditors will need to adapt. They talk about the ethical considerations, automation of controls testing, and the future of AI-driven audit execution. Host: , CIA, CRMA, CPA, national managing principal — Advisory Services Quality and Risk, Grant Thornton Guest: , CPA, CFE, principal, Grant Thornton Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:06] What is Agentic AI? [00:07-01:34] Key Differences Between Traditional AI and Agentic AI [01:35-05:45] The Future of Agentic AI in Internal Auditing [05:46-09:51] Real-world Applications of Agentic AI in Internal Audit [09:52-12:25] Shifting from Compliance to Advisory Roles [12:26-19:13] Ethical and Risk Considerations [19:14-25:51] The Future of Internal Auditors in an AI-driven World [25:52-30:34] Advice for Auditors on Adopting AI [30:35-33:02] Final Thoughts [33:03-36:04] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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2025 North American Pulse Report
03/18/2025
2025 North American Pulse Report
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Deborah Poulalion and Andy Cook break down the . They discuss emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities for internal auditors, covering issues like strategy, funding, and artificial intelligence. The 2025 North American Pulse of Internal Audit report is sponsored by AuditBoard. The public consultation for the is open! Review the draft and share your feedback by April 20, 2025. Visit this to access the public consultation draft to have your say! Host: , senior manager, Research & Insights, The IIA Guests: , CIA, director, Professional Guidance – Financial Services, The IIA Key Points: Introduction (00:00-00:09) The North American Pulse of Internal Audit report (00:10-00:31) The impact of strategy and funding on internal audit (00:32-05:15) The shift toward advisory services (05:16-08:41) Technology risks and cybersecurity challenges (08:42-10:45) The growing importance of data analytics (10:46-13:31) The role of generative artificial Intelligence in internal audit (13:32-16:57) Expanding responsibilities of chief audit executives (16:58-19:10) Audit planning and resource allocation (19:11-22:36) Gender trends in internal audit leadership (22:37-24:10) Remote work trends in internal audit (24:11-28:41) The Global Internal Audit Standards and available resources (28:42-29:40) Final thoughts and closing remarks (29:41-30:25) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Advisory Work: How to Consult
03/04/2025
Advisory Work: How to Consult
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy talks with Mike Jacka about the growing role of advisory services in internal auditing. They discuss how today’s internal auditors are offering strategic insights that go beyond assurance work. They also cover how to balance objectivity with advisory work, how to fit advisory into audit planning, and how to show the value of these services. Host: , CIA, CRMA, chief executive officer and managing principal, Cherry Hill Advisory Guests: , CIA, CPA, CPCU, CLU, chief creative pilot at Flying Pig Audit, Consulting and Training Solutions Key Points: Introduction [00:00-00:06] The role of advisory services in internal audit [00:07-00:27] Balancing objectivity with advisory work [00:28-02:06] Early engagement and its impact on risk management [02:07-04:49] Real-world example: social media consulting [04:50-05:56] Advisory services in small vs. large internal audit functions [05:57-07:06] Pre-implementation reviews as a key advisory opportunity [07:07-09:32] Addressing the fear of losing objectivity in advisory work [09:33-10:45] Demonstrating advisory value to audit committees [10:46-14:08] Using assurance work to identify advisory opportunities [14:09-17:02] Developing skill sets for effective advisory work [17:03-19:03] The impact of strong relationships and trust in internal audit [19:04-22:41] How the Global Internal Audit Standards support advisory services [22:42-26:06] Fostering an advisory mindset within audit teams [26:07-28:18] Strategies for internal auditors to enhance their influence [28:19-30:37] Final thoughts and advice for internal auditors [30:38-32:00] The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Identity & Access Management
02/18/2025
Identity & Access Management
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Bill Truett talks with Nick Lasenko about the critical role of identity and access management in today’s organizations. They discuss common risks, best practices, and the impact of AI on identity and access management. The conversation also covers frameworks, regulatory requirements, and real-world use cases. Host: , CIA, CISA, senior manager, Standards & Professional Guidance, IT, The IIA Guest: , CISA, CISSP, cybersecurity, privacy, and risk management practitioner Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:07] Overview of identity and access management [00:00:08-00:00:31] The financial impact of data breaches [00:00:32-00:01:26] Challenges in detecting and responding to security incidents [00:01:27-00:02:26] Common identity and access management risks for auditors [00:02:27-00:03:26] Weak governance and its implications [00:03:27-00:04:26] Siloed organizations and identity and access management complexities [00:04:27-00:05:26] Regulatory frameworks and standards [00:05:27-00:07:26] Identity and access management controls and data governance [00:07:27-00:09:26] Real-world use cases and security incidents [00:09:27-00:11:26] Horror stories and lessons learned in identity and access management [00:11:27-00:13:26] Best practices for managing user access reviews [00:13:27-00:16:26] Continuous authentication and its challenges [00:16:27-00:18:26] Privileged access management and audit considerations [00:18:27-00:21:26] The impact of AI and machine learning on identity and access management [00:21:27-00:23:26] Final thoughts on strengthening identity and access management controls [00:23:27-00:25:26] Closing remarks [00:25:27-00:31:43] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Fraud Analytics in Investigations
02/11/2025
Fraud Analytics in Investigations
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Ernest Anunciacion and Tom Keaton discuss the evolving role of fraud analytics in internal auditing. They cover how data analytics and AI can improve fraud detection and prevention, along with the challenges and practical strategies for success. Host: , CIA, head of product marketing, MindBridge Guest: , CIA, CRMA, CFE, CISA, director of Internal Audit, Crown Castle Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:06] Ernest’s background [00:00:07-00:00:54] Tom’s background [00:00:55-00:01:50] Impact of data analytics and AI on fraud detection [00:01:51-00:04:27] Challenges in implementing data analytics in internal audit [00:04:28-00:07:06] Using data analytics for fraud investigation [00:07:07-00:09:32] Predictive analytics and identifying fraud trends [00:09:33-00:12:06] Continuous monitoring vs. early warning dashboards [00:12:07-00:15:45] Skills required for fraud analytics [00:15:46-00:19:03] Role of AI in fraud investigations [00:19:04-00:24:04] Future of AI in internal audit [00:24:05-00:25:27] Interesting fraud investigation stories [00:25:28-00:29:00] Closing remarks [00:29:01-00:30:03] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Fraud Podcast: Frankenstein's Roadster
02/04/2025
Fraud Podcast: Frankenstein's Roadster
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast"Frankenstein's Roadster" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In this episode, Chief Audit Executive Frank Harley investigates a sophisticated synthetic fraud scheme at Speed Bird Automotive. The fraudster, posing as Sheila Jackson, exploited weak identity verification controls to purchase a luxury Mercedes SL Roadster. Harley's investigation reveals the dealership's vulnerabilities and highlights the critical role of internal auditors in detecting and preventing such fraud. Don't miss "Frankenstein's Roadster." IIA members can access the full article and bonus content . Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn 6.6 CPEs by registering for The IIA's , scheduled for February 20, 2025. Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:01) Part 1: The Mysterious Customer (00:00:22) Part 2: Cracks in the Controls (00:02:02) Part 3: Fortifying the System (00:04:08 Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Cracking the Crypto Code
01/21/2025
Cracking the Crypto Code
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Dana Lawrence and Dhayalaruban Thangaraja discuss the complexities of auditing cryptocurrency and blockchain. They explore the unique challenges these technologies offer and share practical guidance for navigating this evolving landscape. Host: , senior director of fintech compliance, Pacific West Bank Guests: , internal audit director, BDO Malta Key Points: Introduction [00:00-00:00:07] Ruban’s background [00:00:08-00:00:33] Unique challenges in auditing cryptocurrency [00:00:34-00:03:26] Cybersecurity risks and best practices [00:03:27-00:05:06] Overview of regulatory frameworks and MiCA [00:05:07-00:07:06] Preparing for regulatory compliance [00:07:07-00:09:32] Advocating for governance enhancement [00:09:33-00:11:55] Building technical knowledge for internal auditors [00:11:56-00:14:16] Emerging trends in digital assets [00:14:17-00:17:48] Practical steps for auditing cryptocurrency adoption [00:17:49-00:20:29] Final tips for internal auditors [00:20:30-00:22:41] Closing remarks [00:22:42-00:33:25] The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Top 5 Episodes of 2024: AI, Ethics, Greenwashing, Quantum Computing, and Financial Crime
01/14/2025
Top 5 Episodes of 2024: AI, Ethics, Greenwashing, Quantum Computing, and Financial Crime
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In today’s episode, to kick off the new year, we’re counting down your top 5 favorite episodes from 2024! From tackling AI risks and ethics to uncovering misleading greenwashing claims and exploring the next frontier of quantum computing, these episodes highlight the key issues shaping the internal audit profession. So, whether you’re a longtime listener or new to All Things Internal Audit, grab a seat and join us as we revisit the episodes that made the biggest impact in 2024. Let the countdown begin! Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and Ethics, owner, Pérez Communication Solutions George Barham, director of standards & professional guidance, The IIA Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI , director, professional standards, The IIA , LBMC senior manager, cybersecurity advisor , managing director, advisory services, KPMG LLP , head of information security, Meta Ivan Martinez, managing director, internal audit, Goldman Sachs , Grant Thornton principal, risk advisory services , Grant Thornton senior manager, AI, automation and analytics Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims , director, professional standards, The IIA , forensic accountant in Investigations and Compliance, Compliance and Regulatory Counseling and Investigations and White Collar Defense Practices attorney at Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing , director of internal audit and chief audit executive, The IIA , co-founder and COO of Frontier Foundry & former director of emerging technology at Department of Homeland Security Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AI senior manager, Portfolio Strategy, The IIA , head of internal audit, Eurizon forensic and anti-financial crime director, PwC Luxembourg Key Points: Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:36] Episode 1: Tackling AI Risks and Ethics [00:00:38 - 00:06:27] Overview of the AI auditing framework [00:00:54 - 00:01:41] Building an understanding within the organization [00:01:41 - 00:02:42] Governance, management, and internal audit domains [00:02:42 - 00:04:25] Engagement and leveraging relationships [00:04:25 - 00:05:25] Tools and resources for practitioners [00:05:25 - 00:06:27] Episode 2: Governance and Ethical Dilemmas in AI [00:06:32 - 00:11:42] Introduction to AI governance and ethics [00:06:45 - 00:07:18] Addressing bias and ethical risks in AI [00:07:18 - 00:08:19] Monitoring and controlling AI models [00:08:19 - 00:09:20] Governance standards and independent monitoring [00:09:20 - 00:10:15] Challenges and strategies for maintaining ethical standards [00:10:15 - 00:11:42] Episode 3: Exposing Greenwashing Claims [00:12:04 - 00:16:50] Introduction to greenwashing [00:12:10 - 00:13:00] Legal and regulatory aspects of greenwashing [00:13:00 - 00:14:19] Examples of greenwashing cases [00:14:19 - 00:15:08] Vague environmental claims and their scrutiny [00:15:08 - 00:16:02] Risks and impacts of greenwashing on companies [00:16:02 - 00:16:50] Episode 4: Quantum Computing's Impact on Internal Auditing [00:17:00 - 00:22:58] ntroduction to quantum computing [00:17:04 - 00:17:34] Impact of quantum computing on internal auditing [00:17:34 - 00:18:23] Malicious use and cybersecurity risks [00:18:23 - 00:19:26] Current state and future potential of quantum computing [00:19:26 - 00:20:24] Security risks and workforce training for auditors [00:20:24 - 00:22:58] Episode 5: Combating Financial Crime with AI [00:23:03 - 00:26:37] Introduction to AI in financial crime detection [00:23:18 - 00:24:08] Benefits of AI in transaction monitoring [00:24:08 - 00:25:03] Screening systems and reducing false positives [00:25:03 - 00:25:52] Training AI systems and cybersecurity considerations [00:25:52 - 00:26:37] IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Mastering Soft Skills in Internal Auditing
01/08/2025
Mastering Soft Skills in Internal Auditing
Soft Skills The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Jacka joins Mike Levy to discuss the importance of soft skills in internal auditing. They explore how emotional intelligence, communication, and relationship-building are crucial for auditors to drive change and add value to their organizations. Host: , CEO of Cherry Hill Advisory Guest: , chief creative pilot at Flying Pig Audit, Consulting and Training Solutions Key Points: Introduction and Episode Overview [00:00:02] The Importance of Soft Skills [00:00:26] Evolution of Auditing and Soft Skills [00:01:43] Recruiting for Success [00:02:51] Driving Change Through Influence [00:04:48] Training and Development [00:06:12] Emerging Risks and Asking the Right Questions [00:08:18] Advisory vs. Assurance Roles [00:09:06] Adapting to Technology [00:10:16] Diverse Hiring Practices [00:13:32] Risks of Overreliance on Technology [00:16:33] Future-proofing Internal Audit [00:20:11] Key Takeaways for CAEs [00:24:27] Closing Remarks [00:27:31] The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Been There, Done That, Seen It All: 7 Decades of Internal Auditing
12/18/2024
Been There, Done That, Seen It All: 7 Decades of Internal Auditing
Been There, Done That, Seen It All The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Jeffrey Ridley reflects on his decades-long career and helping to shape the internal audit profession. He discusses the evolution of corporate governance, the challenges posed by emerging technologies like AI, and the vital role of sustainability in auditing. With personal insights and practical advice for the next generation of auditors, Ridley inspires listeners to embrace imagination, curiosity, and professionalism to drive meaningful change in the world of internal auditing. Host: , associate manager producer, Content Development, The IIA Guest: , visiting professor, University of Lincoln, IIA Member since 1966 Key Points: Introduction and Episode Overview (00:00:02) Jeffrey Ridley's Internal Audit Journey (00:00:40) Challenges and Milestones (00:03:08) Sustainability and ESG Auditing (00:06:01) Evolution of Internal Audit Standards (00:08:30) Collaboration and Professionalism (00:11:36) Impact on Business and Public Sectors (00:13:17) Personal Interests and Hobbies (00:15:03) Advice for Future Internal Auditors (00:18:24) Closing Thoughts (00:22:12) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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AI and Financial Crime
12/10/2024
AI and Financial Crime
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Antonio Cacciapuoti and Alessandro Casarotti join Ricardo Martinez to discuss the impact of AI on financial crime. They explore how AI is being used by criminals, the challenges it presents, and how internal auditors can leverage AI to enhance their controls and detection mechanisms. Learn more from this episode's guests, Antonio Cacciapuoti and Alessandro Casarotti, at their upcoming session at on February 20th, 2025. Host: senior manager, Portfolio Strategy, The IIA Guests: , head of internal audit, Eurizon forensic and anti-financial crime director, PwC Luxembourg Key Points: Introduction to AI in Financial Crimes (00:00:02) Criminal Use of AI in Financial Crimes (00:00:35) AI's Impact on Misinformation and Market Manipulation (00:00:51) AI in Transaction Monitoring and Predictive Analysis (00:04:12) Challenges with Data Quality and System Maturity (00:07:24) Human Skills and Data Quality in AI Efficiency (00:08:31) AI's Role in Reducing False Positives (00:06:08) Importance of Human Factor in AI Implementation (00:09:11) AI's Limitations and the Need for Human Oversight (00:10:13) Future of AI in Internal Auditing (00:12:19) Multidisciplinary Approach for Future Talent (00:15:29) Risks of Over-Reliance on AI by Young Auditors (00:17:29) Conclusion and Final Thoughts (00:18:23) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Uncontrolled Substances
12/03/2024
Uncontrolled Substances
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "Uncontrolled Substances" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In this episode, Chief Audit Executive Trevor Smith uncovers a two-year scheme at Berkshire Healthcare where hospital director Chris Basil exploited weak controls to steal pain medications. The case highlights the vital role of internal auditors in tackling non-financial fraud. Don't miss "Uncontrolled Substances" IIA members can access the full article and bonus content . Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn 6.6 CPEs by registering for The IIA's , scheduled for February 20, 2025. Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:01) Part 1: The Bitter Pill (00:00:26) Part 2: Prescription for Disaster (00:01:19) Part 3: A Hard Pill to Swallow (00:02:14) Part 4: A Dose of Reality (00:03:15) Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Filling the Internal Audit Talent Gap (Bonus Content)
11/19/2024
Filling the Internal Audit Talent Gap (Bonus Content)
All Things Internal Audit: Filling the Internal Audit Talent Gap (Bonus Content) In this episode, Amanda Jo Erven talks with Desiree Rivera about developing the next generation of internal auditors. They discuss attracting new talent and the power of mentorship and community. In bonus content, Jerick Mediavilla joins Robert Perez to discuss the challenges of keeping content fresh and relevant for a global audience. Guests:, lecturer and director of Internal Audit Education, MSU Denver Host:, IIA Academic Relations manager Key Points: Introduction and Episode Overview (00:00:02) Amanda’s Journey in Internal Audit (00:00:28) Challenges in the Internal Audit Talent Pipeline (00:02:59) Creative Recruitment Strategies (00:04:38) Essential Skills for Internal Auditors (00:07:22) Mentorship and Community Engagement (00:12:15) Advice for Young Professionals (00:18:24) Introduction to Bonus Content (00:20:48) Collaboration with Subject Matter Experts (00:23:08) Challenges in Content Development (00:24:27) Feedback and Continuous Improvement (00:26:38) Ensuring Compliance (00:26:38) BONUS CONTENT HOST: , owner, Pérez Communication Solutions GUEST:, IIA curriculum quality specialist The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Leveraging Data Analytics & AI
11/14/2024
Leveraging Data Analytics & AI
All Things Internal Audit Tech: Leveraging Data Analytics In this episode, Robert Findlay talks with Lynn Moehl about the evolving role of data analytics and AI in internal auditing. Findlay shares strategies for overcoming challenges, best practices for integrating data analytics, use cases, and the importance of clear communication with stakeholders. They discuss the differences between basic data analytics and AI, the skills required for each, and how advanced tools can enhance audit processes. Guests:, global head of IT Audit, Glanbia Host:, IIA director of Internal Audit and CAE Key Points: Introduction to Data Analytics and AI in Internal Auditing (00:00:02) Differences Between Basic Data Analytics and AI (00:00:34) Skills Required for Data Analytics vs. AI (00:01:21) Effective Tools for Specific Audit Scenarios (00:02:17) Access to Data and Organizational Policies (00:04:07) Criteria for Choosing the Right Tool (00:05:02) Challenging Audit Scenarios and Data Analytics Solutions (00:05:35) Surprising Insights from Data Analytics (00:06:43) Pitfalls and Mitigation Strategies in Data Analytics (00:08:13) Communicating the Benefits of Data Analytics (00:10:08) Best Practices for Integrating Data Analytics (00:11:11) Measuring Success of Data Analytics Initiatives (00:12:19) Guidance for Using AI in Analytics (00:13:15) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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The IIA’s Updated Quality Assessment Manual (with Bonus Content)
11/06/2024
The IIA’s Updated Quality Assessment Manual (with Bonus Content)
All Things Internal Audit: The IIA's Updated Quality Assessment Manual The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Dirk Debruyne and Marthin Grobler discuss The IIA’s recently released Quality Assessment Manual, 2024 Edition, with David Petrisky. They share their personal experiences with quality assessments and the development of the updated manual, including how it aligns with the new Global Internal Audit Standards. In bonus content, The IIA’s Deborah Poulalion joins Robert Perez to discuss the 2024 North American Pulse of Internal Audit Report. Guests: , managing director, D2 CAE Solutions , CAE and owner, IA Professionals Host:, director, Professional Standards, The IIA Key Points: Introduction to the episode and guests [00:00:02] Importance of quality assessments and ISB’s role [00:00:30] Marthin Grobler on his project involvement [00:01:10] Dirk Debruyne's background and contributions [00:02:16] Task force responsibilities and challenges [00:03:16] Focus on ethics in Domain 2 [00:04:24] Comparison with previous QA Manual versions [00:05:50] Alignment with new standards and assessment impact [00:07:26] Use of manual for internal and external assessments [00:09:00] Challenges in assessing conformance methodology [00:10:00] Governance’s impact on audit quality [00:12:23] Introduction of the maturity model [00:14:39] Adding maturity assessments [00:16:00] Templates and tools in the manual [00:17:16] Benefits of the four-point conclusion scale [00:18:49] Performance outcomes in assessments [00:21:01] Guidance on self-assessment with validation [00:22:38] Board and CAE expectations for assessments [00:24:14] QA Manual’s role in meeting expectations [00:26:07] Future innovations and tech in assessments [00:27:42] Value of external quality assessments [00:30:54] Final thoughts for the internal audit community [00:32:23] Bonus content [00:38:20] BONUS CONTENT HOST: , owner, Pérez Communication Solutions GUEST:, IIA senior data analyst, The IIA The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below: Webinar: Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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Cybersecurity Challenges and AI Solutions
10/18/2024
Cybersecurity Challenges and AI Solutions
All Things Internal Audit: Cybersecurity Challenges and AI Solutions In this episode, Sami Rifky, vice president of ISACA Casablanca, joins Mike Levy, CEO of Cherry Hill Advisory, to discuss the evolving cybersecurity landscape. They explore how AI is transforming threat detection and response, the importance of cybersecurity governance, and internal audit's role in managing cyber risks. Guests:, vice president, ISACA Casablanca Host:, CEO, Cherry Hill Advisory Key Points: Introduction to Cybersecurity and AI (00:00:02) Sami Rifky’s Background and Approach (00:00:37) Top Cybersecurity Risks and AI’s Role (00:02:04) Challenges During the COVID-19 Pandemic (00:02:53) AI in Cybersecurity: Opportunities and Risks (00:05:06) Internal Audit’s Role in Cybersecurity (00:07:23) Generative AI and Emerging Threats (00:10:10) Challenges in Implementing AI in Cybersecurity (00:13:08) Ethical Considerations in AI Deployment (00:18:37) Future of AI in Cybersecurity (00:21:15) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the to find comprehensive tools, courses, research, and webinars that help effectively manage and audit cybersecurity risks. Register for the IIA's on October 30th, where Sami Rifky will be a keynote speaker Visit The IIA's or channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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School of Fraud
10/08/2024
School of Fraud
All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "School of Fraud" Listen to The IIA’s new Fraud Podcast brought to you by . The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine’s Fraud department. In the latest episode, an organization’s chief audit executive investigates a suspicious tuition reimbursement during the pandemic, uncovering a web of deceit involving an employee. Listen to “School Of Fraud.” IIA members can access bonus content in the form of lessons learned by reading the full Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:01) Part 1: A Walk Interrupted (00:00:22) Part 2: Cash for Classes (00:01:23) Part 3: A Closer Look (00:03:21) Part 4: The Confession (00:05:38) Resources Mentioned: Follow All Things Internal Audit:
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