“What Even Is This?” with Jane and Jordan

"What Even Is This?" is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time—working, parenting, believing, doubting, laughing, crying, and spiraling along the way. We’re not here to fix your life. We’re here to name the mess and talk about it honestly. Because: - Life is messy - Chaos is real - None of us have it all figured out …and that’s exactly why we’re here.

Episode 10: Okay But Really… What Are We Doing Here? 03/25/2026

Episode 9: What If Your Worth Isn’t Tied to Your Work? (with Emma Sharma) 03/18/2026

Episode 9: What If Your Worth Isn’t Tied to Your Work? (with Emma Sharma) What happens when achievement becomes part of your identity? In this episode of What Even Is This?, Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone sit down with leadership coach Emma Sharma to unpack a question many high-achieving women quietly wrestle with: What if your worth isn’t tied to your productivity? For working moms and ambitious professionals, the pressure to constantly perform can make rest feel uncomfortable—and contentment feel like settling. But what if the constant striving isn’t actually where our value comes from? Through an honest “question spiral,” Jane, Jordan, and Emma explore how achievement subtly becomes tied to identity, why it’s so difficult to believe we’re already enough, and what it might look like to lead, parent, and live from a place of authenticity instead of pressure. They also dive into how hustle culture impacts women, why stillness can feel so challenging, and how reconnecting with who we are beneath titles and to-do lists can reshape the way we show up in work, leadership, and family life. Plus, Emma joins the hosts for a rapid-fire round of Unqualified Advice, sharing everything from her definition of rest to the belief about success she wishes we’d all throw in the trash. If you’ve ever felt like you had to earn your worth through achievement, this conversation will resonate. In This Episode: • Why achievement often becomes part of our identity • The hidden cost of always needing to “do” in order to feel valuable • Why contentment feels uncomfortable for ambitious women • How hustle culture shapes our view of success • What we might discover if we stopped striving—even briefly • Why authenticity starts with asking: What do I actually want? Connect With the Podcast Have a moment where you thought “What even is this?!” Send us your chaotic, messy, or hilarious life stories—they might be featured in a future episode. Email: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com Instagram: About the Show What Even Is This? is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time—working, parenting, believing, doubting, achieving, unraveling, and trying to make sense of it all. We’re not experts. We’re not pretending to have it together. We’re just asking the questions everyone else is thinking. Because life is messy, chaos is real, and sometimes the only honest response is: WHAT EVEN IS THIS? /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40518115

Episode 8: Let’s Normalize the Fact That No One Knows What They’re Doing 03/11/2026

Episode 8: Let’s Normalize the Fact That No One Knows What They’re Doing What if the big secret of adulthood is that no one actually knows what they’re doing? Not your boss. Not the mom with the perfectly packed lunches. Not the person confidently leading the meeting. This week on What Even Is This?, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone talk about the strange moment in adulthood when you realize you’re the adult in the room… and it feels slightly illegal. From imposter syndrome at work to parenting moments that require asking the pediatrician to explain things like you’re five, Jane and Jordan unpack the quiet pressure to appear confident while secretly wondering if everyone else got a handbook you somehow missed. Spoiler: they didn’t. If you’ve ever stared at your calendar, your responsibilities, or your life and thought “How am I in charge of anything?” — this episode is for you. Because sometimes the most freeing realization is this: Everyone is just figuring it out in real time. In This Episode: • Why imposter syndrome shows up in work, parenting, and social life • The viral internet truth: “Adulthood is mostly whispering ‘what the heck is going on’” • Why we assume everyone else has the manual • What changes when we normalize being beginners • How learning in motion builds real confidence Segments in This Episode: WHAT EVEN IS THAT? Jordan brings internet trends that prove we’re all collectively winging adulthood. WHAT EVEN IS THIS QUESTION? Jane and Jordan unpack the pressure to have life figured out and why most of us are just guessing with confidence. WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING? Listener chaos stories including lunchbox mix-ups, a 24-hour crockpot situation, and a child who hums elevator music after being told “hold please.” We Want to Hear From You Have a chaotic moment that made you think “WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING?!” Email us: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram: Your story might be featured in a future episode. About the Podcast What Even Is This?! is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time — working, parenting, believing, doubting, achieving, unraveling, and trying to make sense of the chaos. Because: Life is messy. Chaos is real. And none of us actually have it all figured out. Which is exactly why we’re here. /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40388505

Episode 7: We’re Not Failing…Right? Redefining Success 03/04/2026

Episode 7: We’re Not Failing…Right? Redefining Success Hosts: Jane Doerman & Jordan Johnstone Guest: Cheyanne Skeldon Are we actually failing… or are we just measuring our lives with the wrong ruler? In this episode, Jane and Jordan sit down with certified LifePlan coach Cheyanne Skeldon to unpack the pressure so many women feel to constantly achieve, produce, and prove. Some days you accomplish a lot and still feel behind. Other days you’re barely hanging on and wondering how everyone else seems so confident. This conversation challenges the idea that success is about trophies, titles, or checking every box—and invites you to consider that maybe the definition you’re chasing doesn’t even fit your season anymore. Together, we explore what it looks like to redefine success in a way that aligns with your real life, your current capacity, and your deeper purpose. In This Episode: Why it’s so hard to feel like we’ve done “enough” The exhausting reality of shifting goalposts Comparison, capacity guilt, and invisible expectations How success changes in different seasons of life The difference between purpose and performance One practical step you can take today to redefine success Why “whose you are” matters more than “who you are” Small wins that don’t show up on Instagram—but absolutely count We also wrap the episode with our signature segment, Unqualified Advice, where we tackle modern dilemmas like inbox overwhelm, fake-it-till-you-make-it culture, and whether binge-watching counts as strategic downtime. If you’ve ever wondered, “Why doesn’t this feel like enough?” — this episode is for you. Connect with Cheyanne Skeldon: Website: Instagram: Connect With Us: Email: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com Instagram: If this episode encouraged you, share it with a friend who might need permission to breathe—and don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next. Life is messy. Chaos is real. And maybe… we’re not failing after all. WHAT EVEN IS THIS?! /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40305980

Episode 6: Relationships Are WEIRD — Let’s Talk About It 02/25/2026

Episode 6: Relationships Are WEIRD — Let’s Talk About It Why does one “K.” feel like a declaration of war? Why does making friends as an adult require three calendar confirmations and a childcare miracle? And when did marriage start feeling like co-managing a small, chaotic company? In this episode of What Even Is This?, Jane and Jordan unpack the strange, hilarious, and occasionally fragile world of adult relationships — friendships, partners, coworkers, group chats, Slack tone, and all. Because sometimes you’re not even fighting… you’re just both tired and your nervous systems are freelancing. Today’s big question: Why do relationships feel harder in adulthood — and how do we communicate without spiraling? In This Episode, We Talk About: Why adult friendship feels logistical instead of effortless The emotional risk of sending “too many” exclamation points The viral “We listen and we don’t judge” confession trend Golden Retriever vs. Black Cat relationship archetypes The “roommate phase” of marriage How logistics quietly replace flirtation Slack tone, emoji politics, and read-receipt anxiety Why most fights are actually stress + depletion + bad timing How to tell when you’re misreading tone A simple repair script you can use immediately: “When you said __, I heard __. Is that what you meant?” We also play Relationship Translation Hotline, where phrases like “No worries!” and “All good.” get interpreted four different ways. And in this week’s WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING?! segment: The mom-friend coffee plan that disappeared into a 12-day scheduling void Accidentally starting a Cold War over “I’m fine.” A Slack message that unintentionally launched emotional warfare Key Takeaways Adult friendship isn’t hard because you’re bad at it — it’s hard because life is heavy. If you’re depleted, everything sounds like criticism. Most relationship tension is misinterpretation + exhaustion. Relationships need maintenance, not perfection. If relationships feel harder right now, it might not be because you’re doing them wrong — it might be because you’re doing too much. Have a chaotic relationship moment that made you say, “WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING?!” Email us at: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com Follow along on Instagram: What Even Is This? is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time — working, parenting, believing, doubting, laughing, crying, and spiraling along the way. Life is messy. Chaos is real. None of us have it all figured out. And that’s exactly why we’re here. 🎙 Hosts: Jane Doerman & Jordan Johnstone ⏱ Runtime: ~45–60 minutes /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40223145

Episode 5: The Overstimulated, Overwhelmed & Over It Club 02/18/2026

Episode 5: The Overstimulated, Overwhelmed & Over It Club Why does everything feel so loud… all the time? In this episode, Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone dive into a season so many of us are living in: overstimulated, overwhelmed, and honestly… a little over it. From Slack notifications and school emails to social media scroll spirals and the mental load that never clocks out, we’re talking about what noise overload actually does to our brains—and why your nervous system sometimes just shuts down. If you’ve ever: Walked into a room and forgotten why Stared at your inbox like it was written in Ancient Greek Snapped when someone asked, “What’s for dinner?” Felt irritable, sad, or fried for no clear reason …you’re not broken. You might just be at capacity. In This Episode, We Talk About: Why overstimulation isn’t weakness—it’s capacity overload The “Overstimulated Mom Kit” trend (hello, noise-canceling headphones) How digital clutter adds to mental clutter The impact of short-form video on memory and focus What brain shutdown looks like in real life Visual clutter and why it can trigger overwhelm Reset rituals that actually help (silence, boundaries, decompression time) The practice of self-compassion in high-demand seasons The concept of “Trying Softer,” inspired by Aundi Kolber Becoming a “soul minimalist,” a phrase often used by Emily P. Freeman We also introduce a new segment: WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING?! — where we share our own chaotic life moments (including a grocery pickup saga involving 40 minutes, questionable arugula, and a strongly worded email). This episode is equal parts humor and honesty—because sometimes the most spiritual thing you can do is shut the door, lie flat on the floor, and not talk to anyone for ten minutes. If you’re in the Overstimulated, Overwhelmed & Over It Club… you’re not failing. You’re likely carrying too much noise. 💬 Connect With Us We want to hear your spiral moments. Do you have: A brain-shutdown story? A reset ritual that saves your sanity? A chaotic moment that made you say, “WHAT EVEN IS HAPPENING?!” 📩 Email us: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com 📱 Follow & DM us on Instagram: Your story might be featured in a future episode. Thanks for spiraling with us. Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share with a friend who’s overstimulated, overwhelmed, and quietly wondering: WHAT EVEN IS THIS? /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40141875

Episode 4: Burnout, Overwhelm, & Why Rest Feels Impossible 02/11/2026

Episode 4: Burnout, Overwhelm, & Why Rest Feels Impossible Why does rest feel so hard—even when we desperately need it? In this episode of What Even Is This?, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone dig into burnout, overwhelm, and the guilt that shows up the moment we try to slow down. If you’ve ever felt exhausted but unable to rest because there’s always more to do, this conversation is for you. Jane and Jordan are joined by Mindy Caliguire, author and founder of Soul Care, for an honest discussion about productivity culture, soul neglect, and what real rest actually looks like. Together, they explore why our worth is often tied to output, how burnout sneaks up on working moms, and why caring for your soul isn’t optional—it’s foundational. This episode offers permission to rest, language for what you’re experiencing, and practical insight for anyone running on empty. In This Episode, We Discuss: Why rest feels impossible in a productivity-driven culture The guilt working moms feel when slowing down How burnout shows up before we recognize it What “soul neglect” looks like in everyday life Why rest is a necessity, not a luxury What real rest looks like beyond sleep and scrolling Beliefs about work, success, and worth that need to be unlearned About Our Guest: Mindy Caliguire is the founder of Soul Care and the author of Soul Care and Ignite Your Soul. For decades, she has helped leaders and everyday women reconnect with God by tending to their inner lives, creating space for rest, renewal, and sustainable living. Connect With Us: We want to hear from you. What resonated with you in this episode? What beliefs about rest or productivity are you questioning? Email: thewhatevenisthispodcast@gmail.com Instagram: About the Show: What Even Is This? is a podcast for women navigating adulthood in real time—working, parenting, believing, doubting, laughing, crying, and spiraling along the way. We don’t pretend to have the answers. We name the chaos and talk about it honestly. Hosts: Jane Doerman & Jordan Johnstone Episode Type: Guest Episode Runtime: Approximately 45–60 minutes If this episode helped you feel a little less alone, please subscribe, rate, and share it with someone who might need permission to rest. Because life is messy, chaos is real, and none of us have it all figured out—and that’s exactly why we’re here. /episode/index/show/2aec0d80-53f4-4b56-9a5f-4275a46368f4/id/40066760

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Episode 2: Am I the Only One Who Feels Behind? 01/28/2026

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“What Even Is This?” with Jane and Jordan

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