The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast
Debra interviews famous and not-so-famous characters who have a really good story to tell. Here you’ll find topics on everything from astrology to climate change. Get to know Debra and her cast of characters as they entertain you throughout the episodes and give you a glimpse into their lives, those they surround themselves with, and what they are passionate about.
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How To Break Free from Drama Addiction and Find Authentic Peace with Dr. Scott Lyons
05/13/2025
How To Break Free from Drama Addiction and Find Authentic Peace with Dr. Scott Lyons
Overview In this illuminating episode of the I Don't Believe in Astrology podcast, host Debra Silverman engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Scott Lyons, a double Cancer with a background spanning clinical psychology, dance therapy, osteopathy, and somatics. The discussion delves into the phenomenon of "drama addiction" and how we unconsciously use stress as a distraction mechanism to avoid underlying emotional pain. Through personal stories of his own recovery journey, Dr. Scott Lyons offers powerful insights into why many of us struggle to sustain peace in our lives. Debra and Dr. Scott Lyons explore how our modern society functions as a "stress economy" that competes for our attention through constant stimulation, further exacerbating our nervous system dysregulation. Dr. Scott Lyons also explains how stress provides immediate pain relief by blocking receptors and distracting us from deeper emotional wounds, creating a cycle of addiction. This fascinating conversation weaves together Astrology, neuroscience, and somatic understanding to explain why finding authentic calm feels so challenging— and what we can do to break free from the cycle of unnecessary turmoil. Find more information about Dr. Scott Lyons and his work with the Embody Lab: Order your copy of Debra's new book, I Don't Believe In Astrology, here and get access to Debra's companion tarot booklet while you still can: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: solo.to/dsAstrology Key Highlights From The Episode How to break free from drama addiction and find authentic peace How stress addiction serves as a mechanism for distraction from deeper emotional pain and Dr. Lyons' personal journey of recovery from drama addiction, including the crucial role of facing boredom The concept of the "stress economy" and how our society is built on capturing attention through activating the amygdala Understanding the difference between tolerance for stress versus genuine capacity for processing emotions How to reconnect with nature and physical presence as medicine for an overwhelmed nervous system Timestamps [00:01:30] Opening conversation between Debra Silverman and Dr. Scott Lyons [00:03:29] Introduction to the podcast and discussion about technology changes over time [00:05:28] Dr. Scott Lyons introduces himself and shares his favorite ice cream flavor (mint chip) [00:06:46] Discussion of Dr. Lyons' background in psychology, dance therapy, and osteopathy [00:07:27] Debra notes Scott's double Cancer Astrological makeup and its connection to embodiment [00:08:48] Dr. Lyons explains how stress blocks pain receptors and distracts from emotional pain [00:12:08] Discussion of the hierarchy in our body of what gets attended to first (emotional vs. physical) [00:15:11] Explanation of "revving" - how we source internal and external stimuli to avoid settling [00:17:59] Dr. Lyons describes how we interrupt our own peace and avoid proximity to ourselves [00:21:42] Discussion of the addiction to stress because we don't know how to sustain peace [00:24:52] Dr. Lyons shares his personal journey of recovery, including accepting boredom [00:26:33] Description of sitting through the discomfort to access deeper emotions [00:29:56] Dr. Lyons explains his cardiac collapse from stress overload ("overdosing" on stress) [00:31:29] Discussion of how addiction to drama makes dysfunction feel "normal" [00:34:02] Dr. Lyons describes recognizing his craving for stress and creating space between craving and action [00:39:02] Explanation of how drama is "the freest, most accessible drug there is" [00:42:42] Discussion of internal dialogue and its role in stress addiction [00:45:28] Dr. Lyons shares how he began accepting boredom despite it being "fucking awful" [00:48:23] Explanation of mindfulness as preparation for "surfing the waves of life" not escaping them [00:57:21] Discussion of how meditation and yoga can sometimes be "a beautiful place to hide" [01:07:59] Closing thoughts on taking social media pauses and attuning to your capacity [01:11:37] Debra's final thoughts on connecting with nature as the ultimate medicine for the nervous system
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How To Navigate Astrological Changes and Discover Its Impact with Rick Levine
04/15/2025
How To Navigate Astrological Changes and Discover Its Impact with Rick Levine
In this illuminating episode of "I Don't Believe in Astrology," host Debra Silverman engages in a profound conversation with renowned Astrologer Rick Levine. The discussion delves into the relationship between science, religion, and Astrology, with Rick offering a fascinating quantum physics perspective on fate versus free will. Rick also elaborates on how disillusionment can be positive—the necessary meeting of dreams with three-dimensional reality— and explores the challenges of rapid technological advancement, climate change, and societal upheaval as symptoms of evolutionary growing pains. Throughout the conversation, Rick maintains his position as a "possibleist" rather than an optimist or pessimist. The episode concludes with Rick's powerful mantra: "Think cosmically, act locally." He emphasizes the importance of maintaining connection to our physical bodies while expanding our consciousness, choosing battles wisely, and finding the balance between flexibility and firmness. Rick and Debra reflect on the historical exclusion of women from Astrological practice and celebrate the current renaissance of interest in Astrology as a tool for understanding ourselves and navigating these transformative times. This conversation also provides listeners with practical wisdom for approaching the significant planetary transitions of 2025 with awareness, compassion, and engaged action. Don’t miss this meeting of two Astrological powerhouses! Find more information about Rick Levine here: Order your copy of Debra’s new book, I Don’t Believe In Astrology, here and get future access to Debra’s companion tarot booklet when it is released: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to navigate Astrological changes and discover its impact in our future and throughout our history The Saturn-Neptune conjunction and what it representsRick's quantum physics explanation reveals how both destiny and choice coexist but can't be fully perceived simultaneously Navigating the transition from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian Age How to "think cosmically, act locally"— expanding our consciousness while taking practical action Timestamps [00:01:07] Opening conversation between Debra Silverman and Rick Levine about his Aries-heavy chart [00:01:50] Introduction to the "I Don't Believe in Astrology" podcast with host Debra Silverman [00:02:04] Rick shares when he first started studying Astrology (1967-68) and charging for charts (1976) [00:02:29] Rick explains why he says "I don't believe in Astrology" - he doesn't believe in the Astrology that others don't believe in [00:02:49] Discussion of how Astrology has "bad PR" in modern society [00:02:57] Rick explains why both organized religion and science agree on rejecting Astrology [00:03:43] Discussion about religion's historical relationship with Astrology - they don't say it doesn't work, just "don't do it" [00:04:33] Rick points out that Jesus invited three Magi (Astrologers) to his birth [00:05:00] Historical context of the Catholic Church and Astrology, including Thomas Aquinas's practice [00:05:30] Story about Rob Hand getting his PhD in ancient history from Catholic University [00:05:47] Rob Hand's doctoral thesis on the Church's use of Astrology in medieval warfare [00:06:35] Why modern science rejects Astrology - science requires repeatability while Astrology sees every moment as unique [00:07:14] Discussion of KAiros vs. Chronos (qualitative vs. quantitative time) [00:08:51] Albert Einstein's quote: "Time is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one" [00:09:12] Rick explains how time is created by movement around a center [00:10:47] Discussion of Saturn and Neptune and their relationship in Astrology [00:12:11] Rick describes Jupiter as cosmic magnification and expansion [00:13:44] The relationship between Neptune and Jupiter explained - "Neptune is Jupiter in drag" [00:15:16] Rob Hand's quote about Saturn being illusion and Neptune being reality [00:15:35] Discussion of the upcoming Saturn-Neptune conjunction in June 2025 [00:16:12] Rick explains the rarity of Saturn-Neptune conjunction at 0 degrees Aries [00:17:54] The metaphysical meaning of Saturn crystallizing Neptune's reality [00:18:46] Explanation of disillusionment as a positive process of reality meeting dreams [00:21:24] Discussion of quantum physics showing "what you see is not what you get" [00:22:52] All outer planets moving into Fire and Air signs in 2025 (Pluto into Aquarius, Neptune into Aries, Saturn into Aries, Uranus into Gemini) [00:23:28] Rick discusses societal fear about rapid technological and climate change [00:26:24] Rick identifies himself as a "possibleist" rather than optimist or pessimist [00:26:46] Discussion of psychological regression under fear and societal parallels [00:29:07] The importance of embracing all planetary energies for healthy evolution [00:31:01] Exploration of how technology has changed our understanding of "here" and "now" [00:32:41] Debra shows Rick's chart and discusses his 11th house planets and Neptune opposition [00:37:59] Rick's explanation of why Astrology works: "It's magic" [00:41:47] Discussion of fate versus free will through quantum physics concepts [00:43:24] "Fate is to particle as free will is to wave" - Rick's quantum explanation [00:50:34] Reflection on humanity's place in the cosmos - "the universe doesn't give a fuck" [00:53:58] Discussion of transhumanism and the inevitable integration with AI [00:58:00] The aquarian age versus piscean age - from separate duality to instantaneous resolution [01:01:06] Return from break, Debra comments on "stopping an Aries" [01:01:22] Continuation of discussion about the Aquarian Age transition and how it enables global connections [01:01:59] Women's historical exclusion from Astrology, knowledge, and positions of power [01:02:32] Rick explains Uranus entering Gemini as a move toward intellectual and technological expansion [01:02:57] Warning about the danger of disconnecting from our bodies as planets move into Fire and Air [01:03:41] Discussion of current political climate and attempts to restrict women's rights [01:04:05] Rick quotes Jackson Browne's song "Before the Deluge" about environmental struggle [01:04:31] Description of current societal conflict as "the last hurrah" of old systems of power [01:05:14] Debra shares her more pessimistic view of the human condition based on her psychology background [01:06:31] Rick's philosophy: "Think cosmically, act locally" [01:06:46] Reference to Carl Jung's book "The Undiscovered Self" and his view that world peace begins with individual psyches [01:07:43] Connection to Mahayana Buddhism - no one achieves enlightenment until everyone does [01:08:40] Debra notices Rick's progressed chart shows a major personal transition (Sun at 29° Gemini, Moon at 1° Taurus) [01:09:13] Discussion about slowing down and honoring the body amid planetary transitions [01:10:19] Rick's final message: "Think cosmically, act locally. Be flexible and be firm" [01:10:42] The importance of choosing battles wisely and staying engaged without burning out [01:11:23] Debra's closing thoughts on Astrology's endurance through time and its current renaissance [01:12:13] Final thank yous and goodbye
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How To Quiet Your Internal Noise with Tatiana Dorow
03/18/2025
How To Quiet Your Internal Noise with Tatiana Dorow
Overview How to quiet your internal noise with the power of silence. Step into the mystical world of intuition and crystal energy as Debra welcomes special guest Tatiana Dorow to the I Don't Believe In Astrology Podcast. With her fiery Leo Sun and double Sagittarius placements, Tatiana shares her remarkable journey of following her intuition to purchase the right home, sight unseen, and assemble a collection of over one thousand crystals—most acquired through pure intuitive guidance rather than physical inspection. Delve into Tatiana's unique relationship with silence as she reveals how sensory deprivation has enhanced her intuitive abilities and decision-making. With her intense triple Fire energy, Debra interprets Tatiana’s Astrological chart and shares how she embodies The High Priestess archetype, offering profound wisdom through her embrace of silence as a doorway to deeper understanding. This episode culminates in an exploration of getting comfortable with our internal noise and embracing the power of silence— leaving listeners with practical wisdom to incorporate into their own spiritual journeys. Find out more about Tatiana’s collection and buy your own tabletop book here: Preorder your copy of Debra’s new book, I Don’t Believe In Astrology, here to get future access to Debra’s companion tarot booklet when it is released: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to quiet your internal noise and build a powerful relationship with silence and intuition How sensory deprivation can enhance your intuition Debra’s interpretation of triple Fire energy and The High Priestess tarot card and its connection Tatiana’s life A whole new perspective on the healing resonance of crystals, well beyond the transactional relationships we have with them Tatiana’s reframe on meditation and a new way to look at your own meditation practice and goals Timestamps [0:48] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Tatiana Dorow [1:11] Showing Tatiana’s Astrological chart (Leo Sun, Sagittarius Moon, Sagittarius Rising) and Debra sharing what stands out the most about Tatiana’s chart (Moon conjunct Neptune) [2:32] Tatiana shares about living with her three children in California, then the COVID pandemic happening in 2020 gave a realization and opportunity to choose where she and her family would be [4:04] Tatiana begins searching for home, and finds one in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, yet her intuition had something to say about this move [5:46] Tatiana gets another intuition about a home in Hawaii, purchasing it sight unseen [6:15] The beginning of Tatiana’s crystal collection and the connection to her childhood [7:52] How Tatiana’s crystal temple came to be, with her over one thousand crystal collection, with her first six crystals being the only ones she held before purchasing the others using her intuition [10:43] Building the museum-like sacred space for the crystals [11:28] How Tatiana uses her intuition and discernment for bringing people into her space, and how silence and sensory deprivation have helped her enhance that intuition [13:08] Debra reflects on Tatiana’s ability to sit in silence without triggering anxiety [13:39] Tatiana shares her take on meditation and the reframe that resonates most with her [14:03] Debra shares her interpretation of the first few tarot cards, which she has been studying and compiling a guide booklet on, connecting to Tatiana’s journey [14:52] Turning off Tatiana’s internal dialogue, and her take on silence [16:21] The difference between floating for a few hours in a deprivation tank versus floating overnight [16:45] Debra asks Tatiana to further explain the extreme nature of her Fire energy; Tatiana shares “the side effects” of being blunt and intense [18:05] Tatiana shares about the last time she cried [18:54] What Tatiana wishes people would do [19:15] Debra explains the High Priestess archetype, connected to Tatiana’s message and wisdom, despite her triple Fire energy [19:49] Debra shares her awe of the quality of Tatiana’s meditation in the crystal temple, and the effects the temple has from Tatiana’s perspective [22:45] How Debra came to find Tatiana’s crystal temple and how the crystals have affected her [24:41] The massive gift Tatiana witnesses when people come to her crystal palace [26:08] Anyone alive or not alive that Tatiana would love to have a conversation with; Tatiana answers in a different way [27:00] The entrance of silence and invitation to evolve [28:49] The power of exposure to silence and getting comfortable with our internal noise [29:44] The essence of Tatiana’s Fire and Earth energy [30:14] Tatiana’s resonance with clarity [30:35] Closing out today’s podcast conversation with how to see Tatiana’s collection from the comfort of your home, and final thoughts [31:38] Tatiana shares her gratitude for Debra’s way of speaking Astrology
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How To Fulfill Your Karmic Contract with George Lizos
02/18/2025
How To Fulfill Your Karmic Contract with George Lizos
Overview (TW: mentions of suicide) How to fulfill your karmic contract and fully embrace the miracle that is you. Debra is joined by George Lizos, a spiritual teacher, psychic healer, bestselling author, and energy protection expert. Debra and George have an inspiring and real conversation, meant to reignite your focus on fulfilling your mission and promise in this lifetime. This light yet deep and overall uplifting conversation begins with George discussing what activated his role as a teacher, including a deeply personal moment of transformation. Debra shares insights from George’s Astrological chart, focusing on aspects like George’s strong 10th House, the Earth energy in his chart, and how he was born under a lucky star. As they delve deeper, George reflects on his journey toward self-expression and overcoming the challenges and perceptions of pursuing other passions later in life, activated by his Leo energy. Debra and George touch on the importance of identifying latent parts of ourselves that we may have left behind, encouraging listeners to explore their hidden potential through whispers of their souls and nudges from the universe, as well as looking into their past lives and studying different modalities like Astrology and the enneagram. The conversation is filled with wisdom and takeaways on how to begin understanding and come into alignment with your karmic contract and your true self. Preorder your copy of Debra’s new book, I Don’t Believe In Astrology, here: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to fulfill your karmic contract and its connection to the formula for success How our past lives play into our current lifetime Highlighting the manifestation of Earth Energy and how to tell from your Astrological chart if you were born under a lucky star Wisdom from George with a simple action everyone can do to connect with your soul and awaken your inner divinity Inspiration from George and Debra to reconnect with what you’ve left behind, no matter what your age is Timestamps [0:55] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, George Lizos [03:13] What activated George’s presence as a teacher (trigger warning: mentions of suicide) [06:48] Showing George’s Astrology chart as Debra shares her interpretation [08:41] The quality of 10th House people and its connection to George’s five degrees [09:37] When and how did the Cancer energy show up in George’s life? [11:03] Debra interprets the influence of a lot of Earth energy (Grand Trine in Earth) in George’s chart [12:04] If George could change one thing about his personality, what would he change? [12:28] Debra and George discuss the enneagram including sharing their numbers as well as a shared appreciation for other modalities [13:35] George shares about his interest in becoming an actor [15:03] A new way to think about following your passion and purpose [16:10] Debra shares about being a professional dancer for the first half of her life and how she keeps connecting with dance even after she “left it behind” [16:59] George reframes the disadvantage of being the oldest person in his drama class [17:35] Something is latent within you… what is it? Use this podcast interview to inspire you to find the parts of you that you have left behind [18:55] George shares about the cause and effect laws of the universe and its connection to karmic contracts [19:47] Debra shares the simple formula for success, as well as a powerful component of George’s Astrological chart [21:03] The value of exploring our past lives [21:39] Debra shares about a dream she had that connected to her past life and how writing is tied to her karmic contract [23:21] Interpreting George’s chart as it connects to his skillset and what it means to be an old soul [23:58] George shares his thoughts about how people prevent themselves from writing and connects it to his personal story of what it took for him to write his first book [26:02] Another contagious invitation from this podcast to help ignite your passion- it’s never too late [26:52] Where you can find George to connect with him [27:09] The inspiration of Fire personalities and what happens when you follow through with your karmic contracts [27:56] “Evolution follows you around” and what it means to be aligned and balanced [28:50] Finding your missing Element [29:10] How it feels to have your angels supporting you and having faith in them and the universe [30:05] What to do if you’re in a rough patch, and what to do if you’re in a good place [30:27] George shares what happened during his Saturn return [30:59] Debra shares her deep reverence for ancient teachings and the connection to George’s work and lineage [31:33] How George puts his own karmic contract into words [32:07] The freedom of coming out and being seen for your full self without shame [33:01] Debra shares about her love for George and all the ways she couldn’t stop thinking about how he embodies his chart [33:33] George shares his excitement for diving more into Astrology through Debra’s system, and Debra shares about the simplicity of her system [34:38] How has this podcast inspired you to review your past life and your karmic contract? [35:40] Closing wisdom from George with a simple action everyone can do [37:02] Imagining an Element-ary future where we start this life understanding our soul and karmic contract [37:24] Why the Element of Water is so important and a daily practice to integrate into your life [38:02] Debra’s new book coming out in many different languages [38:18] Recapping this conversation and a homework assignment for everyone
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How to Wake Up Inside the Dream with Andrew Holecek
11/26/2024
How to Wake Up Inside the Dream with Andrew Holecek
Overview How to wake up inside the dream and find that what’s beyond this life is our true reality; what we think is reality is a genuine “altered state.” In this episode of the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast, Debra introduces Andrew Holecek, an author and spiritual teacher. As a long-time student of Buddhism, he frequently presents this tradition from a contemporary perspective – blending the ancient wisdom of the East with modern knowledge from the West. Drawing on years of intensive study and practice, Andrew teaches on the opportunities that exist in obstacles, helping people with hardship and pain, death and dying, and problems in meditation. Andrew and Debra dive right into a deeply philosophical yet accessible conversation as they discuss low-form darkness as the extraordinary force of karma, the mind's various dimensions, and pathways to enlightenment and spiritual introspection. Debra shares her deep appreciation and respect for how Andrew’s work has changed her life and Andrew echoes the same, drawing on his colossal takeaways from his Astrological reading and how it has changed his perspective and belief in Astrology, and his powerful 4E session where Debra felt witnessed him “break the code” of the Water Element. Tune in for an incredible conversation that will inspire you to think beyond perceived reality, find more joy, and accept sadness as a pathway to compassion. Get your copy of Andrew Holecek’s book, Preparing to Die: Watch Debra’s interview on Edge of Mind with Andrew Holecek here: To learn more about Debra’s 4E process and witness it firsthand, register for her free Elemental Challenge: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to wake up inside the dream and discover there is so much more to our perceived reality How Andrew’s gift is to help us all rewrite the story of death Defining the different dimensions and constructs of the ego and the mind that can sometimes work against us The principles and lessons of love and death and their intersection between Andrew’s work and Debra’s work with Astrology and the Elements Andrew gives formal structure to how to hear, contemplate, and meditate Timestamps [2:31] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Andrew Holecek [03:08] The synchronicity of how Debra met Andrew Holecek and how Andrew’s work has impacted Debra’s life [5:12] Andrew introduces himself [6:52] Bringing up Andrew’s Astrological chart and Debra sharing her interpretation and its connection to Andrew [8:57] How Andrew’s life’s work is to help us rewrite the story of death [10:04] Defining the different dimensions of the mind [11:08] “Ego cannot attend its own funeral.” [11:56] Debra shares a secret of what has happened to her recently and the details around it [13:30] Musings on our dream time and the manifestation of mind [17:00] Is it true that time goes on forever in every direction? Andrew shares his thoughts and connects it to our experiences in the dream world and “altered states” [18:44] If the human condition has a limited operating system and yet there is another angle waiting for us, what does this closed system serve? [23:05] Debra shares about Andrew’s 4E session and how Andrew cracked the code of the Water Element [25:30] Getting into the deep end of the pool of spiritual practice [26:51] One of the deepest wounds of Saturn in Scorpio [27:15] Understanding what “love” is [28:21] Love and death in Andrew’s work and Astrology, plus Debra’s personal experience [29:25] A Tibetan language lesson on meditation, openness, and love [31:11] A statistic on how our unconscious mind affects our lives and its connection to how Debra’s work has shifted Andrew’s perspective completely [32:54] The Mercury and Mars connection in Andrew’s chart, his work with lucid dreaming, and his gift to all of us in Debra’s words of gratitude [36:02] Remembrance versus learning and explaining “trickle down spirituality” [38:15] When did the conversation of reincarnation enter the dialogue of the Buddhist? [39:15] Debra’s invitation to everyone in reaching true awakening, what led to the Buddha’s awakening and its connection to death [42:14] Practicing meditation, contemplation, and studying- the innocence of curiosity [43:27] Andrew gives formal structure to how to hear, contemplate, and meditate [45:35] Debra ties Andrew’s philosophical perspective and internalization back to his Astrological chart [46:18] The telepathic and other-wordly downloading in “altered states” [46:46] Bringing ourselves back to Earth when we are up and out [48:01] Andrew shares about his deep interest and practice in the dark and darkness retreat [49:08] Reflections on AI not having our best interest and Andrew’s work in that field [50:16] What provides Andrew with his joy factor and the connection to humor and Water [51:21] Beyond the “sh!tshow” of how things appear [52:54] What keeps the lower phase dark side so seductive? What happens when you’re no longer seduced by the “display” [54:34] What Debra noticed about enlightenment and this existence and Andrew’s thoughts on differentiating depression versus sadness [56:09] How engaging with sadness creates ripples of compassion and the essence of spiritual bypassing [58:00] How Astrology helps you fall in love with you and a recap of the major components of Andrew’s Astrological chart [58:55] Debra’s encouragement for everyone to read Andrew’s book, [59:28] Debra shares her gratitude for Andrew with reflections of her own human condition, and the opportunity we all have to be the one we seek [1:00:29] The Sun sign of the United States is Cancer; reflections on transitions in an election season [1:00:59] Andrew shares his deep gratitude for Debra’s work and where to find his work
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How To Receive Your Inner Riches part 2 with Preston Smiles
10/29/2024
How To Receive Your Inner Riches part 2 with Preston Smiles
Overview How to receive your inner riches and flow fully into a cascade of abundance. This is an exciting continuation of Debra’s first interview with conscious businessman, personal freedom coach, firestarter, and author Preston Smiles. Follow along in a conversation amongst deeply connected friends, where Preston shares some of his secrets to success as a preview to what you’ll find in his new book, Spiritual Millionaire. Preston dives into the major lessons he has learned through the laws of the universe, as well as his reverence for nature and how he sees God as a “yes button.” Debra interprets Preston’s Astrological chart, full of the polarizing energy of Fire and Water, as Preston shares some of his personal experiences, including moments of death and vulnerability. This podcast episode will help you reignite your own Fire, your passion for life, and inspire you to celebrate every victory in life, even the seemingly smallest moments. It’s all connected to your personal formula for abundance, so tune in to get a preview of what inner (and outer) riches may await you. Preorder Preston’s latest book, Spiritual Millionaire, here: Watch part 1 of How To Receive Your Inner Riches here: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to receive your inner riches and begin to access your personal formula for abundance The importance of savoring each moment in life, from the biggest to the smallest, and its connection to abundance Viewing God as a “yes button” and lessons in universal law The polarity of Water and Fire energies and how they show up as vulnerability and passion in Preston What Preston learned about life after witnessing someone pass away Timestamps [1:22] Introducing of he I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Preston Smiles, who introduces himself [1:21] Showing Preston’s Astrological chart with a mention of the abundance of Fire in his chart [2:46] A quick mention of Preston’s latest book, Spiritual Millionaire [2:59] Did Preston believe in Astrology before he met Debra? [3:32] Speaking to Preston being a firestarter, from being in a gang to now, and how it began from his feelings of being less than [5:55] Debra interprets how Cancer Rising shows up as a superpower for Preston, and how his Aries Moon has helped him to be a fighter [6:36] Preston shares about having dyslexia and how it impacted him in childhood; Debra makes the connection to his Mercury placement [7:25] Preston gives examples of his intuitive hits and moments in life further connect to his Mercury placement, including his powerful story of helping a car accident victim as she passed away [11:04] From humble beginnings to abundance, Preston shares what he believes his attributed to his wealth and success [12:01] Debra interprets a powerful dynamic around the placement of Preston’s Moon in his Astrological chart [12:59] What in this life could Preston not live without, and the connections to his life’s work and the principles he follows [17:06] Preston shares something that he teaches in his new book [19:39] As we all play the game of life, here is what is really happening that so few understand [20:06] The nature of Preston’s spirituality and his thoughts on God being a “yes button” [22:03] The law of the ant and the elephant [22:46] The importance of savoring life [23:49] Debra recaps the major components of Preston’s Astrological chart [24:39] There’s no arguing with the spirit of Fire; what we can all learn from this podcast [25:15] The last time Preston cried [28:46] Cancer Rising and Aries Moon, the Water and Fire polarity [29:07] Honoring Preston’s vulnerability [29:37] Someone dead or alive that Preston would love to have a conversation with; Preston picks two! [30:43] Debra shares something about near death experiences and connecting to our lineage [31:32] Closing remarks, including the nature of Astrology
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How To Become The Frequency of Peace with Garrain Jones
10/01/2024
How To Become The Frequency of Peace with Garrain Jones
Overview TW: Mentions of suicide How to become the frequency of peace and become a harmonized human. Garrain Jones joins Debra to share a practical path of getting there, with four must-hear tips and unexpected advice on how to raise your vibration and become your highest divine frequency. Growing through an upbringing that stifled his spirit and led him to venture down a path ending in a prison sentence, Garrain Jones found his formula for freedom when he was locked behind bars. Garrain now moves through life as a powerful force of love and freedom, inspiring bigness within himself and the world, helping others to raise their frequency and find their own freedom. In this interview, Garrain and Debra share about the synchronicities of their meeting, including Garrain’s enthusiasm towards Debra’s method of Astrology. Garrain also gives us four key principles to living in higher frequency. As a special bonus, Garrain tells Debra and our listeners about the powerful download he received about the future of humans on a transformational trip to Egypt. Tune in to access your inner child, your freedom, and raise your vibration! Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to become the frequency of peace and become a harmonized human Garrain’s four key principles to living in a higher frequency An intuitive download about the future of humans Garrain received during a trip to Egypt Major takeaways for the energy of Aquarius Rising and embodiment of Cancer Personal stories of how Garrain overcame his circumstances to be who he is today Timestamps [1:00] Introducing our first stand up podcast of the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Garrain Jones [1:40] Garrain Jones introduces himself and his mission [2:18] Debra speaks to components of Garrain’s Astrological chart [2:59] Garrain describes his childhood [3:54] Debra articulates the qualities of Aquarius Rising [4:27] Something Garrain always felt about “being bad” and his empathic nature [5:11] How Garrain broke the mold of his upbringing; he shares his resistance to the norm [6:24] Showing Garrain’s full Astrological chart as Debra interprets his placements [7:38] The entrance to Garrain and Debra’s friendship, filled with synchronistic events [11:35] A gift of Aquarius Rising; Garrain shares his story around it [14:00] Garrain tells about what led him to being sentenced to 12 years in prison, choosing greed over patience [16:15] Musings about destiny and free will [17:11] Garrain’s experience feeling freer in prison than he did in his childhood [18:54] “In losing my freedom, I discovered my freedom.” [21:54] Garrain’s mother was afraid to tell people what happened to him [22:32] The “gagagoogoo” of manifestation; what if there are no coincidences? [24:39] What Garrain has been studying since 2005 as a result of his huge cues from spirit/God/intuition [25:17] The formula for living in the right vibration and frequency [26:30] “I think we forget we’re a temple.” [27:14] Practical ways to raise your vibration [29:20] The importance of cultivating a daily practice of meaningful disciplines [30:07] Acknowledging and accessing the divinity within you [30:55] Debra recaps Garrain’s four pinnacle life practices and their connection to the four Elements [31:32] Challenging the notion that discipline is a bad word [32:25] The contagiousness of Garrain (and his Mercury conjunct Jupiter) [32:56] Garrain shares his story about visiting Egypt and getting the download of the future of humans [35:58] Garrain’s “version of church without the judgment or shame” to activate the harmonized human [36:44] One unexpected thing Garrain recommends everyone to do [38:28] What Debra says is much more interesting than Astrology [38:50] The last time Garrain cried [40:22] Who Garrain would have a conversation with, throughout time and history, if given the chance [41:53] “If we have the courage to look in the mirror and see God…” [42:54] Debra’s observance of Garrain and his energetic body [43:31] Being a Cancer that’s removed from the shell and mastering the human condition [44:58] Closing out this outside-of-the-box interview with gratitude
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How To Love Your Life By Understanding Death pt. 2 with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley
06/11/2024
How To Love Your Life By Understanding Death pt. 2 with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley
How to love your life by understanding death and lean more into your experience this lifetime. Part two of this delectable conversation with Dr. Mary Helen is here, delivering so many empowering and perspective-shifting insights into the nature of our time here on Earth and connections to the other side. It’s time to fully see the design of your life. This life is not a volunteer position and if you’re struggling to find your joie de vivre, or you find yourself playing the blame game for your circumstances, this conversation can help you reframe your perspective and release that which is no longer serving you. Debra and Dr. Mary Helen explore human nature’s resistance to doing the right thing and the nature of our evolution as a collective species and as individuals. Our karmic paths and lessons show up as patterns and are written in our Astrological charts, and throughout our individual evolution we are guided by a higher intelligence, which Dr. Mary has quite the connection to. Dr. Mary shares about her continued work with “The Council” in the spirit world and how it’s possible to connect with the other side, even if you haven’t had your own near-death experience. This conversation will remind you of the importance of living in your own authentic frequency, changing the conversation around sacrifice, and to not fear the other side because death is just a doorway or a change of address. Get your copy of Dr. Mary Helen Hensley’s Promised by Heaven here: Connect with Debra on social media and get access to her latest offerings, workshops, and more: Key Highlights From The Episode How to love your life by understanding death and lean more into your experience this lifetime by living in line with your unique design The similarities and differences between our world and the spirit world Exploring evolution and other worlds, as told by a higher intelligence How to connect with the other side without having a near-death experience Human nature’s resistance to doing the right thing Timestamps [0:55] Introducing part two of the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Dr. Mary Helen Hensley [2:04] How Dr. Mary describes her profession in her own words [2:55] Showing Dr. Mary’s Astrological chart as Debra shares her interpretation of Dr. Mary’s Gemini Rising and Mercury placement [4:32] A timely analogy for addressing the topic of death with children, and how to understand experiencing communication beyond the human plane [6:13] How Dr. Mary experiences the spirit world [7:37] One of the notable gifts of Pisces [8:11] Speaking to the accessibility and evolution of the spirit world [9:30] Everyone asks this of an Astrologer… [10:08] What are the similarities and differences between our world and the spirit world? [12:23] Are there other worlds? [13:45] The message Dr. Mary received from “The Council” and what her view of the future is [14:49] Discussing evolution and the infinity loop [15:32] The influence of the human on the host (Mother Earth) [17:38] Human nature’s resistance to doing the right thing [19:40] Dr. Mary shares a story about taking out the garbage and the connection to the importance of your intention [21:19] Why did Dr. Mary make the choice to come back after death? [23:45] Ask yourself this question about life [24:44] Words of encouragement and perspective [26:24] How can people connect with the other side without having a near-death experience? [28:24] Debra shares about her near-death experience at 15 years old [29:47] Changing frequency to connect with the other side [32:11] The longing for the deepest listening [34:30] When does Dr. Mary’s emotional body get touched? [36:30] The nature of Dr. Mary’s trust [37:15] Does Dr. Mary feel like there is a higher intelligence that is witnessing what’s happening in the world? [39:05] Seeing patterns in situations and people [40:14] Who Dr. Mary would love to have a conversation with, alive or not [42:51] Questioning the assumption of sacrifice and changing the conversation [44:44] An upcoming class Debra will be teaching this summer about childhood and our purpose [47:13] Debra interprets the childhood theme of Dr. Mary Helen as described by her Astrological chart [48:33] Falling in love with your fate [49:15] A story about releasing yourself from the bondage of what others think [50:52] Changing your inner dialogue with compassion [52:36] Final words from Dr. Mary Helen- “There is no magic recipe…” [54:30] If you’re interested in evolving, it’s as simple as this
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How To Love Your Life By Understanding Death with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley
05/14/2024
How To Love Your Life By Understanding Death with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley
TW: Death, abortion, rape How to love your life by understanding death- whether you have an irrepressible zest for life or you’re struggling to find joy and make this life make sense, we can all connect more deeply with life through its opposite… death. This is part one of an absolutely fascinating (and quite fun) interview with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley where we re-examine our relationship with death and life. Dr. Mary Helen brings her insights into the human nervous system through her work as a chiropractor, author, and healer, with a very unique twist- she had a near-death experience in her twenties that changed everything. Dr. Mary Helen shares the story of her near-death experience as well as her deep connection to the spiritual realm as a child, despite growing up in a household that didn’t naturally accept her gifts. With Dr. Mary Helen’s Astrological chart on hand, Debra immediately connects Dr. Mary Helen’s experiences beyond the veil with components of her chart. This conversation holds practical, easy-to-understand analogies and insights on what happens beyond this life, and through a richer understanding of our karmic paths (as indicated through our Astrological charts) and what happens beyond life, we can lean more into loving our experience in this lifetime. Get your copy of Dr. Mary Helen Hensley’s Promised by Heaven here: Key Highlights From The Episode How to love your life by understanding death and reexamining your relationships with life and death Incredible recollections from a near-death experience The relevance and importance of regulating your nervous system in the physical and spiritual realms Understanding the energies of Pisces, Aquarius, Taurus, Scorpio, and Gemini within different applications in a natal chart Insights from beyond the veil and beyond our human constructs of time Timestamps [0:46] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Dr. Mary Helen Hensley [1:45] “Having an affair on life” as we are called to re-examine our relationship with death and life [2:21] Debra shares a personal story of dealing with death and honors her friend Tim in this conversation [3:50] Dr. Mary introduces herself [4:50] Interpreting Dr. Mary’s Astrological chart highlighting Pisces, Aquarius, Taurus, and Scorpio energy [7:13] Dr. Mary shares about her upbringing with a southern baptist father [8:44] Dr. Mary’s mother had the German measles while pregnant with her and her father’s “event” that helped give him clarity around Dr. Mary’s life path [10:45] The importance of “Judge” in Dr. Mary’s story [12:43] “The kitchen table talk” and Dr. Mary’s ability to see spirits [13:40] Dr. Mary’s practical analogy around how she sees people in spirit [14:38] Dr. Mary’s tells the story of her near death experience [17:38] Details around Dr. Mary’s out of body experience and the awareness of being “the master of your own ship” [19:20] Debra seeks confirmation around a premonition and a car accident [20:55] What happened after the first sound Dr. Mary heard and its connection to our soul frequency [22:37] Dr. Mary describes what happened just before her life review moment and connection to elderly people [25:25] Debra echoes the imprint of NDEs and where most people can’t connect to the experience [26:18] How long Dr. Mary was outside of her body and the breakdown of the constructs of time [27:32] The life review moment that changed everything for Dr. Mary [29:27] What happens in a near-death experience that juxtaposes when we attach the ego to this reality [30:48] Experiencing different realities and the spinning plates analogy [31:43] Astrology enters the past-life karma chat [33:08] Debra shares about her new book that will come out in 2025 [34:01] When Dr. Mary was given the choice to come back into this lifetime [37:20] “You already are that which you seek.” [38:39] The relevance of regulating your nervous system [39:15] Speaking to the traits of Gemini Rising [40:55] How interfering with the nervous system can be a tool for growth [41:44] The reminder for us all through this conversation [42:32] Why do we study Astrology? [43:20] One of the key gifts that Dr. Mary came back with after death [44:12] An insight into the observance of traumatic death and Dr. Mary’s example to support this insight [48:37] The big moment Dr. Mary witnessed her father experiencing during the height of his dementia [51:15] Closing out part one of Debra’s conversation with Dr. Mary [53:26] Allowing fear to have its own voice [54:08] Sharing gratitude for this conversation with Dr. Mary
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How To Find Pleasure In Being In a Body with Liz Letchford
04/16/2024
How To Find Pleasure In Being In a Body with Liz Letchford
How to find pleasure in being in a body, creating a dialogue between your emotional and physical body. These two human systems are critical to our well-being and experiences in life, yet we tend to evaluate and feel them separately, which can create dis-ease. Finding pleasure in the body can be key to fully embracing your incarnation in this lifetime. Debra is joined by Liz Letchford who, by way of the evolution of her work, has embodied a mission to bridge these two worlds. As Liz says, “We came from the stars,” and she has actually learned components of Astrology by relating the signs to the systems of the body. Liz speaks to marrying the two oppositional worlds of science, through her sports medicine and PhD in biomechanics, and the mystical world within her somatic and intuitive work, which she shares about within this episode. Sitting in the middle between opposing energies and showing how one can support the other is one of Liz’s great abilities, as evidenced by her Mercury in Pisces. You’ll get to experience Liz’s Aries energy, her fun-loving Sagittarius vibe, and the intuitive, sensual nature of her Cancer Moon and Venus in Taurus. Tune in and refresh your perspective on the pleasure of being in a body, whether you have left that behind or have yet to feel it. It’s time to reconnect our physical and emotional planes. Connect with Liz Letchford here: Key Highlights From The Episode How to find pleasure in being in a body by creating a dialogue between the emotional and physical How an event in infancy charted the course for Liz’s focus in this life An exploration of how unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms The interpretation of similar Astrological components Liz and Albert Einstein share The need for creating bridges between seemingly opposite worlds, like the physical and emotional and the logical and mystical Timestamps [01:04] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Liz Letchford, who shares about her relationship with Astrology [02:34] Liz introduces herself [03:55] Where we need to give Pisces credit as Debra interprets Liz’s Mercury in Pisces [05:57] The connection between Liz and Albert Einstein’s Astrological charts [06:32] Liz shares about her shift into embodying her science and work [07:18] “Unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms.” [08:20] Sharing Liz’s Astrological chart and breaking down some key components [09:36] The last time Liz cried and why it’s part of her embodiment practice [10:49] Debra shares her gratitude for people like Liz [11:42] How Liz’s lifestyle had to change to match her intuitive and emotional needs [13:32] Why people come to see Liz in her professional work [14:21] What Liz wishes people would do [14:54] Liz shares something shocking she did as a child, the moment she got disconnected from her body, and how it lead her to where she is now [17:23] Bringing the unconscious imprint up, as Debra works through in Tell Me A Story [18:03] Debra shares about what it means to have your Moon placement in a Water sign and a Water House [19:34] Appreciating your incarnation no matter where you are at in your soul’s evolution [20:28] Liz shares about a recurring dream about a spiral and Debra connects that symbol to the soul’s evolution [21:17] What Liz couldn’t live without [22:17] Liz shares something somewhat “hidden” about her work and a story of it coming into play during a session [26:14] The slogan Debra had on the back of her business card [26:43] Debra shares a key takeaway for the audience [27:17] Someone alive or passed on that Liz wishes she could have a conversation with [28:46] If Liz wasn’t talking about the body, she would be interested in… [30:27] Debra’s feeling about Liz’s gift in this life [30:55] Where Debra and Liz met [31:34] Closing out the podcast
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How To Feel More and Dream Bigger with Ayesha Ophelia
03/19/2024
How To Feel More and Dream Bigger with Ayesha Ophelia
How to feel more and dream bigger in a world full of chaos and comparisonitis. We have all felt the need to numb ourselves out and avoid feelings of heartbreak or even grief; we’ve also all been victim to the sense of being not good enough or experiencing alienation. This is a recipe to squash our life-force and suffocate our dreams. Our guest Ayesha Ophelia has her own Astrological recipe for transmuting our pain body into power and dreaming as big as possible. Ayesha has also unlocked more facets to her abilities from her studies in Level 1 of Debra’s Applied Astrology school. Debra shares her hopes to have Ayesha join her therapeutic writing course, Tell Me A Story, which is a powerful avenue for personal transformation and creativity. Ayesha Ophelia is a rising voice in spirituality and wellness. Her work meets at the intersection of creativity and the seen and unseen realms. She walks the path of the muses which are; art, creativity, and the spark of inspiration living in us all. Ayesha and Debra dive into the dominant Scorpio energy of Ayesha’s chart, in the Astrological House of networking and communication, allowing her to feel with the depths and operate with the heights of this human experience. Debra also speaks to the Astrological component in Ayesha’s chart that powers her dream world and manifestation prowess, as well as the Astrological component that has given her quite the streak of luck. Maybe you have these Astrological flavors, too- tune in to find out! Connect with Ayesha Ophelia here: Join our next Tell Me A Story writing course here: Key Highlights From The Episode How to feel more and dream bigger and how that can impact your experience in this lifetime Collective and cultural experiences of feeling alienated and how Astrology can help soothe those feelings The high road and low road of Scorpio Ayesha’s experience in Level 1 of Applied Astrology and Debra’s hopes of her joining a cohort of Tell Me A Story Debra’s permission slips around authenticity and embracing our creativity Timestamps [00:54] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Ayesha Ophelia and her entrance into Level 1 of Applied Astrology [01:37] Ayesha introducing herself in her own words [03:12] Bringing up Ayesha’s natal chart with a quick review of her chart [04:27] Speaking to the component in Ayesha’s chart that shows the futuristic and revolutionary part of her character [05:30] Debra speaks to feeling resistance to her revolutionary way of approaching therapy with Astrology [05:54] Ayesha speaks to the connection between a childhood memory of watching E.T. and the current collective vibe [08:13] Everyone has an alienated part of them; that’s where Astrology can help [09:39] Debra shares an inspiring permission slip around authenticity and finding your voice [09:58] The transition of Ayesha being a support to others and then “leaving the nest” and speaking her own message [10:56] Ayesha speaks to what happened during her Saturn return [12:18] Debra connects pieces of Ayesha’s chart to a past company she ran [12:45] Ayesha shares about moving through grief as her mother left this realm and her connection to her mother then and now [13:57] What Ayesha couldn’t live without in this lifetime [15:22] Ayesha’s strong 12th House in her Astrological chart and a concrete story about her big dreams and using her voice [17:13] What Ayesha would do if she wasn’t a voice on social media [17:50] Debra’s reminder to carry your creativity and child-like spirit into adulthood [18:24] Who Ayesha would love to have a conversation with throughout time and Debra sharing a similar reflection from a past podcast guest [21:09] The last time Ayesha cried and her wisdom around welcoming heartbreak [22:41] Debra shares an encounter with Spirit she had decades ago [23:58] Reflections on grief [25:06] The two things we all long for [26:20] The underutilization of dreaming [26:52] The revolution happening in the human condition [27:56] Ayesha shares about an influential dream for her [31:10] The high road of Scorpio as evidenced by Ayesha [31:57] Debra tells Ayesha about her writing course, Tell Me A Story [32:50] Are your words impactful? Or are they just theory? [33:18] Ayesha reflects on what she learned about missing Elements through Debra [34:22] How Ayesha feels about where we are headed as a society [36:16] Ayesha shares about her luck, evidenced by an impactful Jupiter placement next to her Ascendant/Rising sign [38:27] What happens when live under correct knowledge (LUCK)
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How To Lead By Example and Help the Planet with Bobby Gill
02/20/2024
How To Lead By Example and Help the Planet with Bobby Gill
How to lead by example and help the planet- what’s more important than taking care of your home (Earth)? Debra sits down with biological resource engineer Bobby Gill to talk about the realities of the climate crisis and practical ways we can all help Mother Earth. Bobby speaks about the importance of “voting with your dollar” and the importance of environmental legislation. Our home, and the future of the planet, are on the line. From an Astrological perspective, Bobby didn’t know about Astrology; tune in to hear Debra translate his chart, easily pinpointing his innate nature. Bobby shares reflections of Debra’s Astrological insights and reflects on his Saturn return and the popularity of Astrology. Bobby shares how he believes society is reinventing itself from a “dying way of living.” Tune in for an inspiring conversation around the climate crisis, learn about desertification, and get clues into the nature of a Capricorn and Sagittarius energy. Key Highlights From The Episode How to lead by example and help the planet with small efforts that can have a big impact Understanding the process of desertification and its importance in the climate conversation Seeing an optimistic future after the planet being in “hospice” Voting with your dollar and the government’s part in the climate crisis How Capricorn and Sagittarius energy can show up in a personality Timestamps [01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Bobby Gill [02:45] How Debra and Bobby met and Debra’s entrance into being literate around the climate crisis [03:50] Bobby’s familiarity with Astrology and Debra deciphering his natal chart [05:45] Bobby speaks to the relevance of his adventure-seeking nature as told by his Astrological chart [06:25] Bobby tells us about working at the Savory Institute and its mission [08:13] An explanation of desertification and how the Savory Institute helps to teach communities [12:15] A controversial thought within the climate crisis debate [14:28] Debra and Bobby share their thoughts about an incredible film, To Which We Belong, by Pamela Tanner Boll [17:43] The doom and gloom of the climate crisis, and the optimism around the corner [20:11] The reality of the climate crisis from Bobby’s perspective [24:11] One of the things Bobby is most worried about as we navigate the changes ahead [26:10] Debra speaks to being passionate about our life’s work and taking the long view into account [27:52] How will the government come into play with supporting environmental legislation? [28:37] Bobby shares about “voting with your dollar” and other things individuals can do with the environment in mind [31:25] Thoughts on the use of plastics and the conveniences we have grown accustomed to [33:01] Debra encourages the audience to be conscious of their choices [35:31] Reflecting on Bobby’s lack of the Air element in his chart [36:38] How Bobby’s Earth and Fire in his Astrological chart shows up so prominently in his demeanor [37:33] What Bobby would be talking about if he wasn’t talking about regenerative agriculture [38:00] One thing Bobby couldn’t live without [38:20] The last time that Bobby cried [38:52] Who, across time and history, Bobby would have a conversation with if he could [39:20] What’s next that Bobby is so excited about [40:05] The emergence of Astrology into the current collective mindset [40:55] The value Astrology can provide from Bobby’s perspective [42:00] Debra asks Bobby about his Saturn return [43:38] Thanking Bobby for his time on the podcast and Debra’s hope to ignite interest in Astrology and the climate crisis
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How To Have A Consistent Meditation Practice with Kilkenny Tremblay
12/12/2023
How To Have A Consistent Meditation Practice with Kilkenny Tremblay
How to have a consistent meditation practice instead of adding it to your list of shoulds. Meditation is a hot topic that everyone talks about, yet so many of us find resistance in it being a consistent, fulfilling practice. You’re not the only one that struggles with meditating, whether you’re struggling in your current practice to stay consistent or struggling because you don’t have a practice in the first place. This episode might help you fall in love with meditation! Debra is joined by Kilkenny Tremblay, Yoga and Meditation professor and host of Modern Mystic Podcast, who in addition to being a lifelong lover of meditation, yoga, and other spiritual teachings, is an alumni of Debra’s Applied Astrology school. Kilkenny and Debra discuss how meditation is a dynamic practice, not a one-size-fits-all approach. Debra sheds light on a part of Kilkenny’s Astrological chart that countless other professional Astrologers have seemed to avoid, making Kilkenny’s point of how solid Debra’s approach and Astrological method is, and how Astrology terminology will soon be as fluent to the masses as yoga has become. The history and dynamics of Pluto are highlighted, bridging the connection between Kilkenny’s intense passion for life and her work, and her ability to speak to the seen and unseen, the magical and the mundane. Here’s your chance to learn about the influence of Pluto in Astrology and update your perspective on why meditation is so powerful. Plus you’ll hear tips on how to integrate meditation fully into your life, and if you have children, how to get them interested, too! Learn more about Kilkenny Tremblay at Key Highlights From The Episode How to have a consistent meditation practice following simple tips from Kilkenny and Debra The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit Kilkenny’s top tip on how to get children interested in meditation (it’s easy!) Discovering Pluto in historical terms and its Astrological symbolism and effects Why Kilkenny enrolled in Applied Astrology and what sets Debra’s method of Astrology apart from other Astrologers Timestamps [00:50] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Kilkenny Tremblay [04:17] What Kilkenny experienced at five years old that was her entrance into the spiritual world [05:23] Kilkenny shares about her mediation practice and matching meditations to the disposition of the person practicing [07:28] How often does Kilkenny practice meditation? [08:24] Sharing Kilkenny’s chart and the Astrological indicator that gives a nod to Kilkenny’s easy access to meditation [10:03] The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit [11:53] A brief mention of Kilkenny’s time in Debra’s Applied Astrology school and the connection of the mind (Mercury) to meditation [13:33] The spiritual inheritance people experience (or don’t) in their lifetimes and the Astrological fluency that is coming soon [15:34] Walking through Kilkenny’s chart again, speaking to an aspect in her Astrology chart that so many Astrologers didn’t speak to in Kilkenny’s life [19:13] How Pluto in Kilkenny’s Astrological chart shows her intense intention for her life, and discussing parts of the history of Pluto scientifically and spiritually [21:24] Kilkenny speaks to how her strong Plutonian signature shows up in her life [23:48] Kilkenny shares some of her favorite episodes from her own podcast, Modern Mystic [25:23] Debra shares more on the history of Pluto and its representation of the invisible world [27:22] What Kilkenny always says to people about the benefit of meditation [29:23] The ability of meditation to put us out of the victim mentality and back into the driver’s seat [31:45] Debra and Kilkenny speak briefly to the initial resistance to meditation [32:38] Kilkenny shares her top tip on how to integrate mediation into children’s lives [34:33] There is no random order to the souls that show up in our lives [35:36] What people don’t say about Libra [36:06] Do any of Kilkenny’s three children have resistance to meditation? [36:47] Why and how parenting has always been a big interest for Debra in her Astrology practice and how to introduce our children to spiritual practices [37:58] A recap of what we have learned about meditation in this interview [39:09] Kilkenny shares about her podcast, Modern Mystic [39:37] Closing with gratitude and a beautiful way to think about meditation, as well as ways to connect with Kilkenny as a practitioner and Applied Astrology alumni
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How To Follow Your Soul with Kute Blackson
11/28/2023
How To Follow Your Soul with Kute Blackson
How to follow your soul, regardless of the path the outside world tells you to take. That is the message of this podcast interview with a deeply intuitive and charismatic person who could see his own soul-aligned future, leading him down a road that wouldn’t serve his father’s wishes, but would fulfill his own karmic purpose and healing. (TW: mentions of war) Debra is joined by Kute Blackson, a beloved inspirational speaker and transformational teacher. Kute is widely considered a next generation leader in the field of personal development. His mission is simple: To awaken and inspire people across the planet to access inner freedom, live authentically and fulfill their true life’s purpose. Kute shares miraculous stories from his childhood, along with life-changing moments that, with Sun in Cancer in the House of the futurist, were guided by his inner knowing. Kute echoes Debra’s interpretations of his Astrological chart, connecting her insights into pivotal moments of his life, including his life theme of karmic healing through his emotional bonds. From saying no to a predetermined path chosen by his father, to following his intuition to go to the United States with very little to his name, Kute’s experiences moving through the humble beginnings of his career are another inspiring facet to who he is and has become in this lifetime. This is an interview that will have you captivated from the very beginning, leaving you empowered to continue on your unique journey of your soul’s calling. Learn more about Kute Blackson at Get Kute’s books, and Key Highlights From The Episode How to follow your soul and listen to your inner knowing Nudges from God/the Universe when you are (or are not) living in alignment The Astrological meaning of Jupiter Return How to determine your life theme through your Astrological chart and how that has played out for Kute The importance of finding peace within our own lives Timestamps [00:55] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Kute Blackson [01:18] Kute shares about the spiritual dynamics of his father and his own upbringing, including an experience Kute’s father didn’t share with his congregates [02:11] Miraculous memories that Kute has from growing up [04:30] What happened to Kute at age 8 and age 14 and how those events did not align with his calling [06:07] Debra walks through Kute’s Astrological chart and interprets the theme of Kute’s life [07:18] How Kute navigated coming into alignment with his purpose and telling his father that he would not be following the path his father had decided for him [11:20] The way that God answered Kute’s calling [13:40] Kute set foot onto U.S. soil; what he does next [15:04] Kute recalls a collect call made to his mother in the midst of him worrying about whether he made the right choice [16:05] Kute’s humble beginnings as he started his journey in the U.S. [17:26] Where is Kute now? His introduction of himself and his work [19:36] The titles of Kute’s two published books [20:02] What was the bridge between Kute having nothing to entering into his true destiny? [21:35] Kute has a promise to be a star yet his intuition tells him it’s not aligned; what he does next [23:13] Debra talks about Kute’s Jupiter Return, with Kute sharing how that has played out for him [23:50] Kute comes back to America after traveling the world, feeling at peace while having nothing, and the entrance of his coaching practice [24:42] A neighbor asks Kute to help her ex; Kute “downloads” a process of uncoaching to change this man’s life [26:01] How Kute’s “uncoaching” career began [27:36] How Kute’s parents ended up feeling about his career and the message from Kute’s mother after her passing that changed his relationship with his father [29:38] What happened in 2022 that felt like evidence of karmic healing for Kute [30:59] Debra interprets Kute’s karmic healing through his Sun in Cancer in the 11th House, along with his grounded Moon in Capricorn [32:41] How does Kute feel now within his life? [33:33] What are Kute’s feelings about our collective future on this planet? [35:30] Debra shares about her thoughts on the eras of the people in our lives [36:09] How can we have peace on the planet without having peace in our individual lives? Kute and Debra share their perspectives [37:11] The last time Kute cried [38:04] Kute shares about his optimism around the future [39:18] Kute explains how we live in duality and the goal of awakening to our true nature [41:20] Kute explains his views on organized religion now [42:39] How Kute feels about plant medicine and its current popularity and usage [45:53] Who Kute would like to have a conversation with, passed or alive, if given the opportunity; Kute shares about his regret [48:00] The reminder of the emotional bonds we will never replace in this lifetime; giving gratitude to Kute’s Cancer-Leo energy making this notion real as this interview ends
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How To Walk The Path Of The Mystic with Paul Selig
11/14/2023
How To Walk The Path Of The Mystic with Paul Selig
How to walk the path of the mystic and tune into higher knowledge. Podcast guest Paul Selig says he has no advice for our listeners, yet his presence and his life’s work shows us the importance of opening ourselves up to a higher power. Paul Selig is one of the foremost contributors to the field of channeled literature, after a spiritual experience in 1987 left him clairvoyant. He attended New York University and earned a master’s from Yale. He is the author of Beyond the Known: Realization and The Book of Innocence. As a double Scorpio personality with a prevalent Virgo energy in his chart, the richness and depth of Paul’s work and his loyalty to the purity of his path is impressive. Paul takes Debra through his journey to walking the path of the mystic, which admittedly began with resistance and a skeptic eye towards mysticism and his lifestyle was not in alignment with that path. Paul then experienced a series of events which led him to this new path, which would change the course of his life entirely. Paul also shares about his first Astrological experience and as Debra walks through components of his chart, Paul connects them to avenues and events within his life. This is an interview packed with a Plutonian energy… tune in for what that means (and more). Learn more about Paul Selig at Get your copy of The Book Of Innocence: Get your copy of Beyond the Known: Realization: Key Highlights From The Episode How to walk the path of the mystic and what might lead you to find it How channeled literature is birthed into our reality The energetics of double Scorpio and a powerful Pluto placement The definition of mysticism in modern times and where we are likely to find those enlightened beings today What happened for Paul during his second Saturn Return Timestamps [01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Paul Selig, in his own words [02:54] Debra interprets Paul’s Astrological chart [04:41] The initial resistance that Paul had around his gifts [05:28] The sequence of events that lead to Paul finding his channeling ability [07:05] Paul describes his experience of resistance, as described Astrologically by his Sun squaring his Moon [08:02] Debra’s insights on the destructive ability and sensitivity of Scorpio energy [08:47] How Paul protects his energy [09:09] Paul describes the nature of his relationship with his spirit guides [10:50] “Spoken stenography” and psychic work makes Paul a radio [11:51] The projection and opinion of the spirit guides Paul has channeled about our human behavior and our future [13:22] Is Paul a pessimist or optimist? [14:01] The seriousness that Paul embodies as described by his Astrological chart [15:14] When Paul isn’t focused on channeling, these are the things he thinks about [16:17] The last time Paul cried [17:27] Paul’s profession before being a channeler and the reflections of his work now [18:50] Musings on Paul’s Moon in Leo that have rung true for him, as well as the energy major Astrological themes in his chart [20:55] The level of awareness and function of the higher beings that Paul communicates with [22:32] The physical effects that Paul has experienced when channeling [25:31] How Paul really feels about his channeling work [26:38] Debra recounts the history of Astrology and Paul’s communications with the higher guides about Astrology [28:27] Paul’s first Astrological chart reading experience [31:22] Debra identifies 2020 as Paul’s second Saturn Return; he shares about his experience [33:54] The gift of Paul’s lifetime as told by Astrology [34:55] Paul shares about his father passing away when he was very young and his connection to him now [35:49] Paul’s most recent work, The Book Of Innocence, and his 12th book [36:39] Paul is not the “best student” by way of embodying the lessons of his guides [37:33] A quote Paul lives by [37:54] Does Paul believe we live in a safe reality? Does he live in a safe reality? [39:54] Take this out of this podcast interview [41:16] Debra recaps components of Paul’s Astrological chart and its connection to his past, present, and future [41:54] Paul’s perspective on showing up [42:36] Debra asks what person/people alive or not that Paul would like to have a conversation with [43:36] A past lifetime Paul has some recall around [44:29] Paul’s practical definition of mysticism [45:56] Debra describes the great ones on that planet [46:20] Paul asks when a partner is going to show up; Debra answers by speaking to his Astrological chart [47:20] Debra speaks to the nature of a good interview [47:51] Signing off with final thoughts from Debra and Paul
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How to Find Wisdom in Death and Birth with Siobhan Asgharzadeh
10/31/2023
How to Find Wisdom in Death and Birth with Siobhan Asgharzadeh
How to find wisdom in death and birth- two seemingly opposite concepts that are actually deeply connected, inviting us into deeper wisdom and soulful connection. Debra is joined by Siobhan Asgharzadeh, a grief doula, soul activist, storyteller, dancer, lover of the wild lands, ceremonialist, and birth doula, to reach into the dark depths and fear around death and birth. Siobhan speaks to the societal urge to choose science over humanity, and to the nature of her work to bring back our old rituals and practices to give sanctity and an honoring as we usher lives in and out of our human perspective. With four planets in Taurus in the Astrological House of community, friendship, and futuristic views, Debra and Siobhan engage in a conversation about the importance of congruence between your Astrological chart and your soul, as Siobhan echoes Debra’s interpretation of these Astrological dynamics within her work as a death doula. Death is a topic we seem programmed to hide from, to shy away at the mere mention of it. Debra and Siobhan invite us all to take a closer look at death and share their personal stories on the sacred wisdom that awaits when we choose to lean into the experience of death and birth. Learn more about Siobhan Asgharzadeh at https://griefpilgrim.com Key Highlights From The Episode How to find wisdom in death and birth by leaning into these experiences Understanding the practice of being a death doula Siobhan and Debra’s personal stories of bearing witness to death and birth How Siobhan’s four planets in Taurus, in the Eleventh House, show up in her life Calling in new perspectives through our old practices and rituals around death and birth Timestamps [01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest [03:12] Debra gives an interpretive overview of Siobhan’s Astrological chart [04:24] Displaying Astrological Siobhan’s chart with nods to the Eleventh House of Astrology [05:50] Siobhan speaks to her training in midwifery and her practice [08:56] Debra and Siobhan speak to natural birth practices and why Siobhan moved towards focusing on work around death and grief [11:51] How Siobhan works with death now and what she sees in her practice from a societal perspective [15:30] Debra reflects on her own study of being a death doula [16:58] The connection of this conversation to the climate crisis [17:33] Debra shares a personal story of the passing of one of her best friends [18:55] Debra asks those listening, “What is your relationship with death?” [19:25] Siobhan speaks to the resistance to death and birth [20:55] Debra shares a personal story about witnessing death that changed her perspective [22:25] Siobhan describes how death can feed life and shares about the first death she witnessed [28:40] Debra reflects on the elemental pieces that occur in birth and death [30:50] Debra asks Siobhan to reflect on her four planets in Taurus in the Eleventh House as a draw to community and her life’s work [34:31] Debra shares about the practice of sitting shiva [36:20] The old rituals of birth and death brought back to the surface by Siobhan [36:64] Bringing ceremony, ritual, and honoring to our experiences [38:15] Siobhan speaks to us using words and functions as a society that don’t allow us to feel and access our heart [39:51] Sharing what the mind, heart, body, and spirit perspectives are through grief [41:22] The goal of the game of life, as told by an Astrologer [42:03] What Debra always knew about death and attachment to our beliefs [43:23] The most important conversation to be had about the congruence between your soul and your Astrological chart [44:12] “The soul is an endangered species.” [45:22] The initiation of Saturn Return [47:46] The analogy of midwifing the death and the birth of Earth [48:37] Siobhan finishes out the podcast with a beautiful story [51:26] We need to see beyond our mind’s perspective by dropping into our hearts and souls [53:23] Closing out with the essence of this podcast
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How to Talk to Angels with Lorna Byrne
10/17/2023
How to Talk to Angels with Lorna Byrne
How to talk to angels and help your soul become more intertwined with your human experience. That’s the theme of our podcast with the ethereal Lorna Byrne, who seems to be an ambassador of the angels to our human species. Lorna Byrne has been seeing and talking to angels since she was a baby. She talks openly about what she’s learned and how angels completely guide her life. Lorna is the author of seven best-selling books, including Angels in My Hair, The True Story of a Modern-Day Irish Mystic. Lorna’s books have been published in more than 50 countries and 30 languages around the world. While this podcast episode will not feature an Astrological chart due to Lorna being uncertain of her birth time, Debra is able to connect the dots of what Lorna does know about her birth time and the Astrological placements that present themselves in Lorna’s life. Lorna has not spent much time with Astrology, but she echoes Debra’s Astrological analysis during this interview. Lorna shares her visions of the future, where there is no division as our souls become one with our humanness. In this future, we live in peace with each other and nature, our home. According to Lorna, the future depends on this spiritual evolution. Lorna Byrne has physical sight of the unseen world, of the angels, spirits and other spiritual beings that she says are guiding and teaching us every second of every day. Many have sensed these beings occasionally but do not see them tangibly like Lorna. But Lorna says we all have this potential if we grow spiritually, when we can learn to talk to angels. Tune in for a recollection of incredible angelic sights, stories, and the beginning steps to shift our perspectives and open our world up to the divine. Learn more about Lorna Byrne at lornabyrne.com Get a copy of Lorna’s Book, Angels In My Hair: Key Highlights From The Episode How to talk to angels and connect your soul to your human experience The truth about our guardian angels and how they see us Incredible stories throughout Lorna’s life as she received messages from the angels Lorna’s Aries nature and her Mercury in Pisces, as interpreted by Debra, contributing to how she has perceived the physical world, as well as the world beyond Messages about the divine, no matter what your beliefs are Timestamps [00:57] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest’s mission to help others [02:00] Our guest, Lorna Byrne, talks about the reminder from the angels to keep her gift quiet [02:57] Our guest, Lorna Byrne, introduces herself and tells us about her early beginnings [04:30] Debra interprets Lorna’s Mercury in Pisces and Lorna reflects on Debra’s interpretation with her real life experiences, even in infancy [06:09] Lorna’s beginnings of being a late talker, with the angels reminding her to keep her gifts a secret [06:55] Lorna speaks to the guardian angels we all have and her request to Archangel Michael [07:46] Do angels eat and taste food? Lorna answers and sheds light on the clothing that angels appear with [08:46] Debra shares about her sense of her guardian angels (that seem to have a sense of humor) [09:34] The true nature of spirituality [10:55] What Lorna thinks people should do when they start their day [11:46] Lorna shares about a direct experience with the angels when she was a child, playing with her brother that had passed away [13:46] Lorna recounts being open publicly about her gifts and an abrupt message from Archangel Michael [16:14] Lorna can’t read; she tells the story of finally saying yes to God’s message to begin writing and the synchronistic events that followed [20:20] More synchronistic events came to help Lorna get her book published [21:54] One thing God always says to Lorna [23:01] Debra asks: What makes it okay to say no to God? Lorna answers and tells Debra about the difference between angels and God [25:08] Why angels love to be around people [26:01] Debra asks Lorna about the conversation around angels and sensitive religious subjects like abortion; Lorna shares story of being called to speak to a woman who became pregnant and who had nuns telling her she was pregnant with the a child of the devil [29:14] A question Lorna always asks God [30:00] Are angels envious of us? [30:11] What Lorna wishes people would do [31:54] Lorna shares a story that reflects how souls choose their parents and the lives they will lead before they are born [33:05] What Lorna couldn’t live without and how Lorna feels she is different from others having been brought up by the angels [34:32] How Lorna distinguishes herself from the angels [35:27] The intertwining of the human being and the soul, as told by Lorna and Alice Bailey’s work [36:41] Lorna’s uncertainty about when she was born, making it difficult to read her Astrological chart [37:42] Debra interpret what she does know about Lorna’s Astrological composition [37:58] Debra shares appreciation for what Lorna’s presence and gifts can teach us all [38:27] Lorna shares about what the future looks like and why the intertwining of ourselves to our souls and spirituality is so important [39:25] How Lorna’s work has been perceived by scientists she has worked with [40:19] Lorna shares her visions of the future and how the United States has a different vibrance that will be pinnacle for our collective future [42:59] The last time Lorna cried and what touches Lorna the most [44:44] How Lorna’s children navigate their mother’s gift [45:57] The story of Lorna’s husband that began with a message from an angel at the age of 10 [50:01] When Lorna recognized her husband from the vision the angel gave her, and more information she knew ahead of time before actually meeting him [52:24] Debra appreciates how Lorna has changed our point of view [53:23] Lorna’s final words, no matter what your beliefs are [55:05] Debra’s final words on asking your guardian angels for help
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How To Let Go Of Your Fear with Christian Sundberg
10/03/2023
How To Let Go Of Your Fear with Christian Sundberg
How to let go of your fear may have you wondering, “What is on the other side of fear?” On the other side of fear is the deepest love imaginable, a sense of peace, and an unshakeable connection with your soulful self. Debra is joined by Christian Sundberg. When Christian was a young child he remembered his existence before coming to Earth. While that memory left him completely for his early adult life, it spontaneously returned at the age of 30 as Christian took up a meditation practice and went through a personal awakening journey. Christian now seeks to remind others in at least a small part of who we really are beneath the human “play.” Christian is the author of the book A Walk in the Physical, which attempts to succinctly describe the larger spiritual context in which we exist and the importance of love in our human journey. While Christian is ambivalent on the topic of Astrology and has never had a reading, Debra connects his chart to life’s purpose, the timeline of his spiritual journey, and the major themes of Christian’s life. Christian speaks with Debra about his path towards spiritual awakening, his pre-life memories, and shares wisdom on the connection between fear and our un-evolvedness. It’s time to learn to let go of your fear- tune in to hear why… Learn more about Christian Sundberg at Get a copy of Christian’s Book, A Walk In The Physical: Key Highlights From The Episode How to let go of your fear and what happens you do Messages from the higher intelligence of the other side Pre-life memories and how we all choose which life we incarnate into The importance of releasing our ego stories The themes of Aries and Virgo energy, and the shift within a Saturn Return Timestamps [01:14] Christian Sundberg shares his experience with Astrology so far, and Debra introduces him as a double Aries with Moon in Virgo [01:45] Debra shares about her life-changing from watching Christian’s other interviews and identifies a major undertone in our zeitgeist [03:33] Christian gives an overview of his professional career as a project manager [04:00] Debra gives an elemental overview of Christan’s Astrological chart [04:42] Christian began to go through his awakening during his Saturn Return [05:08] Debra shows Christian’s Astrological chart and dives into the mathematical timing of Saturn cycles and the activation during Saturn Return [06:19] Christian provides an important disclaimer about the limitations of the human language before telling his story [07:55] Christian tells the story of his spiritual activation which began with listening to Tom Campbell, reading his 1,000 page book, and starting a meditation practice [10:21] Christian describes his first non-physical, out-of-body experience [12:41] The entrance of Christian’s pre-birth memory [13:35] Christian shares one of the reasons he is here in this lifetime, and how his spiritual path has been unfolding to support his learning [14:34] Debra recalling part of Christian’s story that stuck out to her; Christian shares more about that story [16:41] “The depth to which we are wounded must be healed.” [18:11] How Christian accepted the veil [20:46] Christian’s remembrance of being a fetus and deciding not to come into a life [23:43] Christian explains reviewing his life experience ahead of coming into this life [25:17] Describing the essence of the soul and the only way to be incarnated [26:43] Christian mentions his illness at the age of 22 [27:07] “Human lives are so precious.” [27:59] Debra echoes Christian’s sentiments and why Astrology works [28:23] The nature of our experience as a human [30:24] A lesson from Alice Bailey [31:54] How we “make choices in the context.” [33:14] How Christian’s awareness plays out in his life [34:45] Debra shows Christian’s Astrological chart and speaks to his life purpose; Christian echoes his experience with having three planets in Virgo [37:01] How the Pisces and Virgo axis shows up in Christian’s life [39:00] Releasing our ego stories [42:20] “We’re not actually separate.” [42:54] What Christian wishes people would do [43:36] The two ultimate issues that are happening on Earth [44:11] What was the purpose of ignorance in the human experience? [45:21] Debra reflects on the appetite for our human impulses [46:20] Why we experience a high level of constraint and limitation as humans [47:31] How we all act from a place of fear [48:48] Why can’t our unconscious minds filter out the negative or the evil impulses like how our internal organs filter out toxins? [50:24] There’s not really an enemy- our fear is the problem [52:39] Christian’s thoughts on the evolution of the human species [55:50] What happens when you face your fear [57:08] The vibrational temperature of humans is higher than what it has been and the refacing and integration of old societal patterns [58:29] Christian’s thoughts on extraterrestrials [1:00:15] Christian’s optimism around the ecological terror that is transpiring [1:01:36] Debra explains the continuance of fundamental principles regardless of our physical existence (or Earth’s physical existence) [1:02:46] The root of feeling threatened [1:04:41] What Christian wouldn’t want to live without [1:05:11] Someone Christian would love to speak with [1:05:58] The last time Christian cried [1:06:38] Christian and Debra discuss if there is anything to fear in this life; the truth behind it all
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How To Be More Disciplined with Destinee Berman
09/19/2023
How To Be More Disciplined with Destinee Berman
How to be more disciplined is key to growth and achieving excellence. Do you know the true function of discipline beyond the negative connotation? Tune into this conversation with digital marketing expert Destinee Berman, whose own focus on discipline played a huge role as the catalyst of creating Debra’s Applied Astrology school. Every Monday morning for many years, Debra had a conversation with destiny (aka Destinee) to dream up and manifest the structure of her business. In this episode, Destinee shares her formula for success is not just in the numbers and data-driven results, but in how she manages and stabilizes her energy and spiritual center. Destinee shares about the effects of her intense and difficult entrance into this life during the Cambodian holocaust and as a result of growing up poor, while Debra shares about how the tremendous Capricorn influence in Destinee’s chart has gifted her with a potent perseverance towards excellence. Even more Astrological insights are shared by Debra using her unique method of Astrological interpretation, including a focus on Destinee’s Saturn on the Sun and Mercury in Scorpio, as Destinee affirms Debra’s analysis to be true with concrete life examples. “I don’t believe in Astrology” was a phrase never in Destinee’s vocabulary, and working alongside Debra has only amplified her belief and application of this ancient language. If you’ve been looking for more discipline in your life, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for! Connect with Destinee on Instagram (@desberman) Find out where discipline shows up in your own Astrological chart and sign up for Debra’s self-study course, Inner View: Discovery of YourSELF through the Stars. This course is similar to Level 1 of Applied Astrology, but you'll study on your own, at your own pace, at a fraction of the price. Join now for instant access: Key Highlights From The Episode How to be more disciplined for more growth and achieving excellence Dispelling the negative connotations around the word “discipline” and celebrating success Destinee and Debra share keys to success and manifestation Destinee’s entrance into Astrology and how it lead to working with Debra The spectrum of a major Capricorn signature in someone’s chart Timestamps [00:53] Introduction of Destinee Berman, in Debra’s words as well as Destinee’s own words, as our guest on The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast [04:00] Debra pulls up and interprets Destinee’s Astrological chart [05:45] How Debra and Destinee met and Destinee’s reflection of her reading with Debra [07:00] Destinee shares about her intense entrance into this lifetime [08:55] The karmic relationship between Destinee and Debra [09:53] What drives Destinee [11:22] Destinee shares her formula for manifestation [13:15] How Cardinal energy plays out in business [13:55] Destinee’s sense around the climate crisis [15:24] The way Destinee’s Mercury in Scorpio consumes information [16:29] How Destinee’s Capricorn Rising is a dominant energy in how she shows up in the world [17:55] Destinee’s softening around her Moon in Cancer [18:22] Debra speaks to the permission present in the energy of Destinee [19:09] Reflections on the word “discipline” [21:22] How Destinee is preparing for her older age and how that notion shows up in her Astrological chart [21:55] Destinee’s entrance into Astrology [23:09] Debra shares something she always thought to be true about Destinee that also describes the nature of Capricorn energy [24:42] Accepting the nature of your chart [25:52] Debra shares about starting her business and being a single parent and how Destinee affected her [26:56] Permission around success [27:55] How Destinee describes her work ethic and the balance of motherhood [29:25] If Destinee wasn’t talking about online marketing, what would she be doing instead? [30:33] “I wish that people would ______.” [31:09] What Destinee wouldn’t want to live without [31:46] A person in history that Destinee would love to have a conversation with [32:54] Destinee’s fundamental belief about the future [34:33] What Destinee continues to know without question [35:22] Debra reflects on Destinee’s example of excellence and perseverance [37:11] Debra shares about the gift of success [37:54] “I don’t believe in Astrology’ is not in Destinee’s vocabulary [38:26] Signing off with gratitude
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How To Make Your Next Choice In Life with Julie Reisler
07/25/2023
How To Make Your Next Choice In Life with Julie Reisler
How to make your next choice in life- the feeling of being frozen in fear of making the “wrong” decision is something we have all wrestled with. What if you had guidance to help you unfreeze and get into flow with making the best decision? The answer lies within your intuition (and your Astrology chart) as evidenced by our guest, Julie Reisler. Julie Reisler, a board-certified master life and wellness coach, is an interior designer for your soul. She's a mentor to hundreds of coaches, change-makers, and soulful entrepreneurs. Julie is the host of The You-est You® podcast and the author of . Julie has been featured in Forbes, MindBodyGreen, The Chopra Center, Bustle, and Thrive Global for her work as a coach, teacher, and conscious business leader. Julie is a multi-time TEDx speaker and has spoken on stages throughout North America. She is also a popular course creator on Insight Timer, the number-one ranked mindfulness app. Debra and Julie’s conversation is hinged on the importance of connecting with the truth of the divine and learning how to lean into your intuition. We all have intuitive abilities; some of us just come with a more easeful access, like Julie as evidenced by her Grand Trine in Water, which Debra breaks down using her method of Astrology in a way that resonates deeply with Julie. Julie loves Astrology yet has only dabbled in it, and this conversation with Debra around her Astrological chart has Julie ignited her eagerness to learn more through Debra’s work. Tune into this conversation to release any reluctance you have about your own intuitive gifts, and get insights into how to relax into soul-based decisions by accessing your inner knowing. Connect with Julie on Instagram (@juliereisler) and get Julie's FREE 7-day workbook to design your best life: juliereisler.com/toolset Join Debra for her Astrological Immersion, happening now, with a LIVE event starting August 21st that you won’t want to miss! Grab your free front-row seat at astrologicalimmersion.com Key Highlights From The Episode How to confidently make your next choice in life The one simple question that may be the game-changer the next time you are caught at a crossroad Astrological markers that speak to the ability to reach a high level of success and a strong psychic ability (you may have them, too!) The importance of listening to your gut or intuition How Debra’s method of Astrology is igniting new excitement to learn Astrology for Julie Timestamps [00:42] Introduction Julie Reisler as our guest on The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast [02:47] Debra shows and interprets Julie’s Astrological chart [05:15] The quality about Julie that makes her standapart, and Julie identifies a quality of herself that she has never said out loud before [06:20] Debra speaking to the invitation and permission of the podcast and of Debra’s Applied Astrology school [07:05] Debra Astrologically breaking down Julie’s gift and Julie affirming Debra’s cosmic translation of her chart [08:37] The vision or visual that Julie has seen that shows her gifts [09:17] The turning point of Julie waking up to a greater spiritual connection and new way of living [12:40] A question from a coach that shifted Julie’s perspective completely [14:08] How Julie’s family reacted to her big life shift (and Debra describes the Astrological connection to their reaction) [15:46] Jumping back into Julie’s chart to speak to her Grand Trine, an Astrological component that for Julie indicates a strong psychic, intuitive ability [16:35] Julie’s excitement for Debra’s Astrological gift and Debra’s method for breaking it down so simply [17:16] Julie’s life lesson, mental body, and intuitive nature as its shown by her Grand Trine in Water [18:12] The first book Julie wrote, [19:40] Another book that Julie has started and a new idea that has come through for Julie that is calling to her [20:46] What Julie wishes people would do [22:17] Julie’s intuitive knowing about her current husband and a knowing about her previous husband [23:41] Another description of Julie and her intuitive gift as told by her Astrological chart [24:28] The reluctancy of owning our spiritual gifts and Julie’s take on foundational spiritual teachings that bridge and transcend religions [26:40] The recognizable master teachers that have connected with Julie [27:15] What recapitulation means and how it is ever present in Julie [27:58] What Julie couldn’t live without in this life [28:41] The gift that came out of Julie’s lower spine injury [29:38] About Julie’s women-led business and being a professor at Georgetown University [31:30] One thing Julie would change about herself [32:30] Debra speaks to the Astrology and coaching connection and Julie’s need for movement each day [34:07] What Julie sees and senses about the climate crisis [36:35] How the inner work we do can change our outer world [37:13] Julie speaking to materialism, fighting, and lack of compassion that is prevalent in humanity and the mirror of it in the climate crisis [38:21] The inspiration that Julie provides and how we can all see that within ourselves [39:37] The best way to connect with Julie [40:07] Julie’s obsession with her work and how it shows up in her natal Astrological chart [40:44] Signing off with gratitude for connection and Julie’s energy of light and love
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How To Receive Your Inner Riches with Preston Smiles
07/11/2023
How To Receive Your Inner Riches with Preston Smiles
How to receive your inner riches, whether or not the outer world matches. Debra sits down with Preston Smiles, conscious businessman, trailblazer, personal freedom coach, experiential speaker, author, and “badass messenger of love,” sharing the formula for living more fully and fulfilled. If you’re not happy with how abundance shows up in your life right now, give this interview a listen to be steeped in appreciation for the riches in your life and wisdom for getting out of your head and into your true essence. Do you have the courage to listen beyond your mind? Do you know the power of deep listening? Preston shares his personal experiences with his capacity for deep listening- how it has led to catalytic moments in his life, from “profane to the profound” as he describes. Preston tells an incredible story about intuitive nudges he received while in New York City that lead him to play a part in a perspective-changing event. Debra explains the roles Preston’s Mercury in Cancer and Cancer Rising play in his connection to intuition, as well as musings on his double Fire energetics and the reason the Astrological theme Preston has picked up on makes so much sense based on his Astrological chart. Learn more about Preston, his daily mantra, and his messages of love, all echoed by Debra’s remarks on being open to perspectives beyond the constructs of your mind, the universal human wound, and a challenge to us all… be ready to receive! Find Preston on Instagram: @prestonsmiles See Preston and Debra LIVE for Debra’s upcoming virtual Astrological Immersion August 21st-25th, with a closing call on August 28th. Sign up to be amongst the first to get your free seat here: astrologicalimmersion.com Key Highlights From The Episode How to open yourself up to receive your inner riches The power of deep listening and how it can manifest into profound life moments and lessons How Preston identified an Astrological theme in his life that Debra had the explanation for The shifts that gratitude and saying “yes to the yes” can have in your life The mantras that Preston and Debra start their day with and how it helps them experience life beyond the small constructs of the human mind Timestamps [01:02] Introduction of Preston Smiles and The I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast [02:04] Preston’s introduction [03:43] How moving back in his with his mother helped Preston change the dynamics of his life [04:30] Growing up as an underdog [06:23] Debra shows Preston’s chart and the validation of his life lesson of Saturn in Virgo, his double Fire energetics, and his compassionate Cancer Rising [07:43] Preston echoes the accuracy of Debra notating the Virgo life lesson themes in his life [08:51] Debra discusses the beginnings of this podcast and asks Preston what his sense is about the future [10:18] Preston shares about his vision quest, or vision fast as he calls it, and his reflections from the experience [14:01] Debra shares her one directive she hopes people receive from this podcast [14:28] Debra shares more about the major Astrological components of Preston’s chart [15:12] Debra shares her thoughts on choosing your parents in this lifetime [16:57] Preston shares about a medical condition that shook him to his core and changed everything, and inevitably led to his life’s work [21:43] Echoing part of Preston’s story of coming into his full self, Debra shares a permission slip from the Age of Aquarius [22:49] Preston shares his gratitude for this life and how he has “said yes to the yes” [23:56] Preston details an incredible story about listening to his intuition [32:07] Debra reflects on Preston’s story, the power of deep listening, and Debra’s pact with spirit for her life’s work [33:25] Debra’s story about being in meditation and listening to a directive from spirit, then initiating an uncomfortable conversation with a friend of the past [34:39] You don’t need someone else to forgive you and you can be the doula or healer [35:10] Debra demonstrates the manifestation of Preston’s Mercury in Cancer [35:30] Debra’s challenge to all of us and Preston echoes her sentiments [36:45] The last time Preston cried and breaking the cycle of his unsupportive beliefs [39:45] The universal wound of not feeling worthy and the call to find compassion for the human condition (check out Debra’s book, The Missing Element) [42:11] Preston’s early morning mantra [43:44] The message Preston always receives during plant ceremony [44:10] What Debra wants to everyone to take in through this podcast [45:05] Debra’s waking thoughts each day [45:59] The truth about us all [47:22] The moment-to-moment love affair of being an adult [48:02] Preston talks about the manifestation of our dreams and the sacrifices they may bring [49:02] Preston being a modern-day spiritual master [50:31] Your agreement at a higher level of consciousness [51:40] Debra summarizes the message of this podcast [52:52] How to find and work with Preston [54:25] The call once more to learn how to listen deeply to your intuition and to spirit
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How to Understand Your Dreams with Athena Laz
06/27/2023
How to Understand Your Dreams with Athena Laz
Learning how to understand your dreams can help you connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world. Our dream time is sacred, and there are benevolent messages even in our scariest nightmares. Debra sits with Athena Laz, Spiritual Dream Teacher, Depth Psychologist, and author of The Alchemy of Your Dreams and The Deliberate Dreamer's Journal, to discuss the powerful root of your dreams and their messages. Athena explains that everyone dreams, and everyone has the ability to create a deeper connection to their dream world and intuition, enhancing our connection to nature, the collective, and ultimately our own souls. Debra describes how Athena’s Astrological chart points exactly to Athena’s life work, and Athena echoes Debra’s Astrological interpretations with excitement and an enthusiastic interest in joining Debra’s Applied Astrology school. Tune into this episode to learn more about the connection between dreaming and major collective events (like the pandemic and natural disasters), what repetitive dreams really mean, and what practices you can start to better understand your dreams and expand the horizons of your dream world and intuition. Find Athena on Instagram: Get a copy of Athena’s book, The Alchemy of Your Dreams: Start your dream journaling journey with Athena’s The Deliberate Dreamer’s Journal: Key Highlights From The Episode How to understand your dreams to connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world How a dream journaling practice will enhance your dream world The mere practice of putting your awareness on the potential of your dream experience can increase your dream frequency, even for those people that don’t remember their dreams Athena’s first experience with Astrology and her renewed interest in the subject as evidenced by her excitement around Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart and enrolling in Debra’s Applied Astrology school The nature of precognitive dreams and the benevolent interpretation of nightmares Timestamps [00:50] Introduction of the subject matter of this podcast episode [01:28] Does Athena believe in Astrology? Her experience with her first reading [01:58] Athena’s introduction [04:09] Athena’s drawing the connection between dreams, climate consciousness, and the pandemic [07:09] When Pluto was discovered and the connection to the Death card in Tarot [07:54] Debra and Athena share their dreams about tsunamis [08:35] Anxiety arising as a societal symptom amidst radical change [10:01] A big theme of Athena’s Astrological chart shows her as the futurist [10:18] Debra sharing a story about a child dreaming of disaster the night before the September 11th attacks, and a precognitive dream Debra had not long after that [11:30] Athena explains precognitive or prophetic dreaming and the importance of a dream journaling practice [13:24] Debra shares and discusses Athena’s Astrological chart, describing Athena’s connection to her work [15:09] Athena’s affirmation of Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart [15:26] Athena answers Debra’s question about what the difference is between those who have a rich dream world and those who don’t remember their dreams [18:00] Who is giving us messages in our dreams? [19:16] Debra sharing a dream of a deceased loved one and the showing of her shadow [21:05] How Athena has interpreted dreams for others and aims to teach people how to do it for themselves [21:43] Debra shares some of her own experience with dream interpretation [22:28] How dream interpretation theories can be too prescriptive and the importance of maintaining the perspective of your own intuition [23:55] The range of dreaming viewpoints (Debra references Jung and Freud) [24:13] Debra sharing a very obvious message from a “loud” dream of a client [24:44] Debra speaks to the importance of writing dreams out and speaking the dreams out loud; Athena echoes those sentiments [25:36] Athena shares a personal example of reframing a nightmare into a benevolent message [28:04] The message behind repetitive dreams [28:26] Carl Jung’s dream perspective that helped Debra [29:27] Debra asks Athena what she would be talking about all the time if she wasn’t talking about dreams [30:02] What Athena wishes people would [30:13] What Athena couldn’t live without [30:48] Someone throughout history that Athena would love to have a conversation with if she could [31:18] Athena shares her newer interest in the Tarot [31:37] The last time Athena had a good cry [33:03] Athena shares what she would change about herself if she could, and Debra connects that to Athena’s Astrological chart [32:37] Athena shares more about her Astrology experience and interest, and Debra invites her to Applied Astrology school! [33:09] What Debra would be focusing on in this lifetime if she wasn’t an Astrologer [34:14] Debra shares her gratitude for Athena and her life’s work, and Athena shares her gratitude for their serendipitous connection
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How To See Beyond Fear And Find Wisdom with Richard Rudd and Carla Johnson
06/13/2023
How To See Beyond Fear And Find Wisdom with Richard Rudd and Carla Johnson
How to see beyond fear and find wisdom when the future looks bleak should be a reason alone to listen to this podcast episode. Beyond that message, this interview is steeped in practical mysticism and science, understanding the evolution of the human species, and acceptance of the natural cycles of Earth. Chemistry occurs seating our guest, Gene Keys founder Richard Rudd, in between Debra Silverman and Carla Johnson. The trio shares how they met and bounces effortlessly through a conversation about the fear culture of climate change and the importance of sinking into wisdom and faith in moments of angst and uncertainty. Richard Rudd is an international spiritual teacher, writer and award-winning poet. In 2002 when he began to write and receive the Gene Keys – a vast synthesis exploring the miraculous possibilities inherent in human DNA. Richard shares the Gene Keys connection to our future and his views on how Astrology not only works, but can aid us in our transitions as we meet our next evolutionary point. Carla Johnson is a geologist, hydrologist, environmental engineer, and entrepreneur, one of Debra’s dearest friends, sharing a deep appreciation for Debra’s method of Astrology. Debra shares the Astrological connection between Richard and Carla, with Carla also chiming in about Richard’s Saturn in Aries and how it translates into his purpose. This is a conversation rooted in mysticism, science, radical honesty, and consciousness, with reminders of the importance of self-awareness, meditation, studying, intimacy, transition planning, and keeping your faith as we move towards our next evolution. Find Richard on Instagram: Check out Richard’s offerings: Listen to Carla’s IDBIA episode, Just a Page In Earth’s Book : Key Highlights From The Episode How to see beyond the fear and find wisdom in an unsettled world The difference between knowledge and wisdom How Richard’s Gene Keys and Debra’s method of Astrology work in tandem The imminence of cycles of extinction and evolution What we can do to help steady the Earth and steady ourselves (there is a connection!) Timestamps [01:11] Introduction of Richard Rudd and special bonus guest, Carla Johnson [03:50] How and where Debra, Richard, and Carla all met [04:39] The overview of Earth’s history as told by Carla [10:45] Do we need to be worried about the climate crisis? Richard Rudd shares his perspective [14:20] What excites Debra about the future [14:56] The timing of humans in Earth’s history and the intellectual acceleration of humans [16:11] An explanation of Gene Keys and the connection to our future [18:22] Reaching points of paradox [21:00] Carla shares fascinating facts demonstrating the connection between Earth and the human body [22:35] A call to suspend your human mind [23:40] The emotional body’s resistance to believe greater wisdom and how Gene Keys supports breaking through that resistance [26:24] The new awareness operating system we are moving towards and how Gene Keys and Astrology give you a road map and tools to get through to our next evolution [28:47] How Debra says we all can make a difference with an open mind [30:24] The Earth’s intelligence and capacity to regenerate [32:15] Lowering the planet’s stress level [34:06] The important thing to remember is nothing operates in isolation [35:10] The air tight system of Astrological high roads and low roads and how de-evolution isn’t possible [36:33] Richard Rudd’s chart reviewed [38:42] The truth about the future citing predictive models [42:25] The reminder of our need to carry humanity through the shifts to come [43:29] Debra’s unshakeable belief in Astrology and flowing through death and change [45:51] How systems like Debra’s method of Astrology and Richard’s Gene Keys can give you back your faith [46:40] The horrible truths of how this climate cycle will play out and what you can do [48:39] Carla’s upcoming book and the unsustainability of the current state of our lives [50:34] The most sustainable unit of living [51:13] How we will live in a sustainable future [52:00] What it’s like to be in the higher realm of your Gene Keys [53:15] The future system will cherish you, but there is work to be done [54:02] The answer to people who say they don’t care of believe in climate change [54:24] The power of wisdom over knowledge [55:40] Ending with a call to keep your faith, and a nod to nothing but beginnings
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How To Be Your Most Conscious Self with Nikki Sharp
05/30/2023
How To Be Your Most Conscious Self with Nikki Sharp
*TRIGGER WARNING: eating disorders, body dysmorphia How to be your most conscious self is the hack to living in better balance, to feeling better, to being healthier, and loving more deeply. Who would you be if you became the partner that you have always longed for? The goal is to “marry yourself,” as told by author, mentor, model, and transformational coach Nikki Sharp. Nikki is passionate about living a conscious and aware life, with her life’s mission dedicated to helping others do the same. Nikki and Debra create a vulnerable, raw, yet uplifting dialogue around what self-care really means and the connection between how we treat our bodies and how we treat Earth. Nikki Sharp does believe in Astrology; in fact, she shares her praise for Debra’s method of Astrology in this episode. Debra breaks down the main components of Nikki’s Astrological chart as described by her Big Three- Gemini Sun, Sagittarius Moon, and Leo Rising- alongside Nikki’s Mercury in Cancer, as Nikki shares real-life examples of how these Astrological dynamics show up in her past, present, and future. Debra also speaks to the House that Nikki’s Sun is in, which speaks to Nikki’s non-traditionalist and futuristic energy, fused with the ability to synthesize information and bring it to the masses. Both Nikki and Debra approach their life work with an emphasis on compassion and education yet leaving people with the ability to make their own choices, which creates heightened consciousness and awareness. Nikki shares how that plays out in her work as a nutritionalist and coach and Debra echoes that within her work with Astrology. Tune in for an episode that is rich with wisdom around the ego, conscious living, Astrologically-connective stories from Nikki and Debra’s pasts, and enlightening Gemini energy. Find Nikki on Instagram: @nikkisharp Check out Nikki’s offerings: Key Highlights From The Episode How to be your most conscious self and the connection to the mind and ego Nikki and Debra speak to the difference of how Debra’s method of Astrology really makes the language click (learn more at appliedastrology.me) The state of our environment and society and the correlation to what and how we eat How the energetics around things, people, and thoughts play a big role in the way it affects us Examples of channeling and connection to higher power and wisdom Timestamps [01:34] Introduction of Nikki Sharp [04:12] An overview of Nikki’s books and her offerings [05:24] Debra speaking to Nikki’s Big Three (Sun, Moon, and Rising) and her full Astrological chart [06:19] The stomach issues Nikki had in the past, related to the dominant Cancer energy in her chart [08:04] Debra speaks to the correlation to what we do to our bodies and what we do to our Earth [08:39] Where Nikki is at in life and how her self-healing has brought her to a better place [09:18] Pulling up Nikki’s Astrological chart [9:58] Nikki speaking to her tattoos and how she is committed to speaking from a place of love [10:51] Nikki’s perspective on diet and the link to the climate crisis [12:48] Speaking to Nikki’s Mercury in Cancer [13:38] A reflection from Debra’s childhood [14:24] Nikki speaks to state of humanity and the connection to our diets [16:49] Debra’s realization of being an example to others and helping others wake up [17:47] How Nikki guides people with a new perspective in how we eat [19:38] Coming back to Nikki’s birth chart to talk about the House her Sun is in and how it has shown up for her in her past [22:58] The real function of Leo and how Nikki has moved into her Leo Rising [23:37] The story of Nikki putting her life’s purpose onto paper [28:05] Debra speaking more to Nikki’s 11th House Sun as a non-traditionalist and futurist [30:02] Debra’s synapsis of Nikki’s story as told by her Sun, Moon, and Rising [31:19] Speaking to Nikki’s intuition and how it shows up in her Astrological chart [31:58] Debra shares part of the story of the creation of her Applied Astrology program and Tell Me A Story (TMAS) [33:46] The importance of spirituality in Nikki’s life [34:58] Debra’s insight into overcoming the ego and coming into success [36:11] The worst thing we can ingest [36:54] Debra’s thoughts on minimalism met with Nikki’s take on its connection to balance [39:24] Nikki speaks to the origin of a food craving [40:06] Debra and Nikki talk about sleep and the Ayurvedic explanation around our self-care cycles [41:26] What Nikki is here to do in this lifetime, in her own words [42:34] Another facet of what Debra does that brings her joy [43:15] The hardest question about how we value our body and the body of Earth [43:52] What Nikki tells her clients should be their goal [44:41] Another way of explaining the manifestation of Nikki’s Sun, Moon, and Rising [44:58] Nikki shares a story about moving into a new place and the sign from beyond [46:03] Nikki’s COVID experience and her takeaway [46:40] The meaning of Nikki’s Progressed Moon in Pisces [48:15] Nikki shares what her word of the year was [48:27] Debra’s reflection on the connection between Nikki’s work and the environment [48:53] How Nikki explains the root of what her teachings are and a fun way of looking at it [49:46] Debra and Nikki share their gratitude for the connection with each other [50:14] Debra shares a story of how she listened to her body [50:59] Finishing with an important takeaway on energetics [51:53] Nikki tells Debra about her Dream Binder and one of the visualization practices she uses in her work [53:27] Nikki and Debra speak to the difference of how Debra’s method of Astrology really makes the language click [54:15] Debra asks: If Nikki wasn’t talking about health and wellness, what would she be interested in? [54:46] What Nikki wishes people would [54:59] One thing Nikki can’t live without [55:03] Who Nikki would have a conversation with if she could [55:29] The last time Nikki cried [55:40] Ending the rapid fire questions with two Geminis signing off
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How To Learn Through Your Suffering with Rita Hraiz
05/16/2023
How To Learn Through Your Suffering with Rita Hraiz
How to learn through your suffering is a concept brought to us all through our karma. Two things that seem to universally evoke feelings of uneasiness are our inner worlds and the future. What lies beneath the depths of our personalities and our behavioral patterns- the unknowns of our lineage and the roots of our imprints- and our karma is not to be feared, but revered. We are all beings of light, divinity embodied, with the ability to transcend the now into a brighter, sustainable, and spiritually evolved future. That is the message of our guest, Rita Hraiz, whose mission and purpose is to embody and evoke the essence of our spiritual evolution. Rita supports people through grief and trauma, helping other to shamanically call back the places they have abandoned themselves, to heal addictions, to glimpse and then anchor wholeness in order to experience the great liberation that comes from finally being able to find a way off the emotional treadmill that keeps us locked on the wheel of illusion. Rita and Debra have a friendship that has spanned decades; they share their remembrances of times past together and in the name of vulnerability they share some deeply personal and human experiences that have brought them to points of their spiritual awakening. As Rita voices through her Mercury in Aquarius and Gemini Rising, pain and suffering is here to pray into it, to bring about the light within us and around us. This is a deeply transformational conversation, weaving through notions of our karma, past life remembrance, death, and navigating the noise factory that is our psyche to find stillness and our path towards greater purpose. Tune in as Rita and Debra have a very 8th House conversation with the thorough and exquisite excellence that Capricorn Rita embodies- you’ll walk away lighter and enlightened. Key Highlights From The Episode How to learn and pray through your suffering The transition of our humanity into “The Light Age” and the prophecies that support it The importance of balance in our lives and the ways the Universe nudges us for greater balance How Christ energy and the teachings of Buddhism have influenced Rita Rita’s Astrology and transformational Saturn Return story Timestamps [01:52] Introduction of Rita Hraiz with background on her connection to Debra through the decades [04:20] Debra’s thoughts on destiny friendships and the connection she and Rita share [05:24] The acknowledgment and invitation of spirit and the sacred [06:26] Debra’s prayer for openness [06:50] Sharing Rita’s Astrological chart [08:04] Rita’s entrance into life having function and purpose [09:45] Rita stepping into the aspect of dharma and the pull between her 4th and 10th Houses in Astrology [10:57] Rita’s work and life mission [12:27] Rita’s Capricorn excellence and how Debra has seen Rita’s growth over the years [13:01] Debra and Rita’s reflections on lineage and rituals [14:43] Cutting through the delusions of this world [16:49] Jumping into this lifetime as The Fool (Tarot card) [17:40] The history of Tibet and the Tibetan people [18:21] We are emanations in a dream spell [19:25] The colored chakra featured on Rita’s wall and the message it transmits [20:40] The place beyond this place that exists in peace [20:57] Debra’s conversation with her son about the reality of our doom and gloom [21:24] Rita speaks on embracing the suffering and its connection to telepathy [22:06] The most unhealthy thing we can do in this lifetime [22:51] Why Debra lives in Hawaii [23:13] Are you soulful? Here are some clues [23:34] The transition of our humanity and the prophecies that support it [24:34] The opportunity COVID presented to all of us [26:40] The importance of trust in this transition [28:23] What we are being prepared for [31:26] Debra’s reflections on the ego and soul and Astrology as the evidence [31:26] Debra’s reflections on the ego [32:47] The main takeaway from this podcast [33:33] Thinking back to spiritual experiences 2,000 years ago to now and the next 2,000 years [34:47] Can we invoke our greater light to be the guide? [37:05] Rita’s Saturn Return story [44:26] Rita’s prayer for people [46:40] A note on mastery and studying Astrology [47:39] Bodhisattva vow [50:09] Praying into the suffering [51:52] Debra shares about her recent dream of being a rebellious kid [53:23] The truth of our mission of being here right now [54:34] What Rita would not want to be without in this life [56:10] Someone in history that Rita would love to have a heart-to-heart with [57:58] “Who else am I madly in love with that I haven’t met yet?” [58:56] What Rita sees for the future [1:00:14] Debra and Rita share thoughts on the climate crisis and our collective healing [1:02:29] Rita’s closing prayer [1:03:53] Debra’s closing remarks and sharing in gratitude with Rita
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Your Judgments Are What You Attract with Robert Edward Grant
05/02/2023
Your Judgments Are What You Attract with Robert Edward Grant
Your judgments are what you attract. It’s a simple notion, yet a tough pill to swallow. What this perspective will gift to you is the knowing that your tough life lessons, your difficult circumstances, those relationships and scenarios that didn’t work out- they’re brought to you for your growth and ascension. In simpler terms, the release of judgment and the gratitude for the lesson is the key to leveling up your human experience. Debra is joined by Robert Edward Grant- a successful entrepreneur, best-selling author of PHILOMATH, author of new release POLYMATH and pre-release Neuromined, inventor, founder of several corporate enterprises, and the host of Code X, an original television series on Gaia and Amazon Prime. He is an artist, sculptor, music theorist, musician, and author of numerous research and patent publications spanning biology, DNA combinatorics, number theory, geometry, and physics. He has lived in nine countries and fluently speaks Japanese, Korean, German and French. Robert’s mission is to integrate innovation, mathematics, natural sciences, artistic design, and entrepreneurship into balanced creations intended to benefit all. Robert walks Debra through some of his divinely-inspired works, along with the recurrent themes, messages, and lessons behind his own existence, as well as the existence of the collective. The duo then correlate these experiences to Robert’s Astrological chart, as it highlights his visionary perspective, his passion for details and futurism, and his indelible draw towards mysticism and mystery. From past life recollection to the oneness theory to the double-edged sword of the future, this episode spans an array of subjects, with key takeaways around the nature of the human mind’s resistance towards the release of judgment and its relationship to the ultimate life achievement of unconditional love. Tune into this podcast episode and walk away with tools to inspire a different viewpoint of your challenging life experiences, taking you one step closer to emotional and spiritual evolution. Key Highlights From The Episode A shift in perspective around judgment Musings around the purpose and orchestration of our life’s events Robert and Debra’s honest and authentic thoughts on the oneness theory Robert’s encounter which led him to his first recollection of a past life How do we access unconditional love? Timestamps [01:59] Introduction of Robert Edward Grant [04:55] Debra jumps into Robert’s chart [06:15] Robert’s never ending appetite to learn, as described by his Astrological chart [07:42] Robert shows his advanced writings and drawings that were divinely inspired [08:30] The unusual part of Robert’s chart [09:33] Robert’s experience with sharing his knowledge and wisdom and his recent experience with being acknowledged for achievement [10:55] Robert recalling major projects he has worked on and how his futuristic views showed up alongside his commitment to releasing limitation [12:45] Robert shares his perspective on the climate crisis and the perfect variables that support our existence within the solar system [15:12] What is the nature of our mind with regards to our limitations? [16:07] Robert’s work with Gene Keys and the synchronicity behind his personal number [17:15] When Robert recalled his first memory of one of his past lives [22:31] The visionary marker in Robert’s Astrological chart [23:26] Robert shares his story of being the catalyst for physicist Nassim Harame’s departure from Kauai [24:53] What Robert wishes people would be able to do [25:45] The interesting place Robert found solace in during a personal crisis [27:31] What Robert’s experience being around “normal” people is like [28:35] The nature of judgment and what you attract [29:37] Robert’s process in trusting the Universe, releasing his worries around mistakes and not becoming what he could become [31:41] The last time Robert cried- a reflection of gratitude [32:15] Robert’s past work and the link to big shifts in idealism [33:20] What Robert sees for the future [35:00] The mirror world we live in [35:13] A synapsis of Robert’s chart and how Robert has navigated the emotional waves of the Water element [36:10] Robert’s early life and standout qualities from his childhood [37:08] Back to Robert’s chart, delving into his Saturn Return [38:56] The common theme around all of Robert’s life lessons and his musing about his “luck” [39:57] Our life purpose as described by our divine assignments [41:18] The realization about the orchestration of our life events [41:40] Robert and Debra share their differences in perspective on the oneness theory [43:50] What Robert wouldn’t want to live without [44:54] Robert’s continuation of the relationship-oriented lessons in his life [46:29] What Robert would change if he could and his intuitive perspective on the future [47:55] The cycles of Earth and our need to be aware and prepared [48:22] Debra’s ending message for this podcast episode [49:22] Robert’s ending message for this podcast episode [50:47] Debra’s blessing to the podcast audience [51:42] Debra’s gratitude for her connection with Robert on this episode [52:06] Robert’s gratitude to Debra and Astrology and his final reflections on judgment, oneness, and the future
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Understanding the Technology of Emotions with Blu
04/18/2023
Understanding the Technology of Emotions with Blu
Understanding the technology of emotions will help bring humanity into the future. Debra embarks on a compelling conversation with Blu, a marvelous being sent to Earth to teach us how to reconfigure our own emotional data drives when our files become corrupted or disorganized. By becoming fluent in navigating and processing our emotions, we create space for a more blissful, compassionate future. Blu is a motivational speaker, artist, musician, host of the Deja Blu podcast, and co-founder of Florescence – a modern mystery school for women. Blu has dedicated the past decade to her understanding the medicinal nature of the plant kingdom as well as the archetypal nature of the collective unconscious. Blu’s genius is in her ability to connect with the world that lies beyond our five senses while keeping her feet firmly planted on the ground so that she can bring us golden truths of beauty, love, and unity in a way that is playful and authentic. Blu and Debra discuss Blu’s mission, and how all of the pieces of her purpose are interwoven throughout her chart. A very Plutonian person with a strong 11th House, Blu is here to transmute fear into fearlessness, showing us all how to break our deep-seated cycles with softening and unconditional love. While this episode is steeped in wisdom, it is tangible and approachable extra-sensory intelligence brought to you by the effervescent synergy of Blu and Debra. Don’t just dip your toes in- take the dive into this revolutionary exchange between two inspiring and whimsical minds. Listen to Debra on Deja Blu podcast here: Key Highlights From The Episode Pluto in Aquarius giving humanity the power to rewrite the future The importance of admitting to judgements and staying transparent Blu’s extra sensory perception that has given her a unique truth filter Blu’s work with plant medicine and the permission slip Astrology provided her The definition of grace and how Blu has embodied its definition Timestamps [01:11] Blu’s introduction [03:02] One of the reasons Debra started this podcast, leading into meeting Blu and how it has instilled hope [04:30] Pluto has entered Aquarius [05:00] The meaning of Blu being born under the auspicious influence of Pluto [06:12] Viewing and discussing Blu’s Astrological chart [08:55] Blu’s extra sensory perception that has given her a unique truth filter [10:51] What Blu was like as a little girl [11:45] The first cycle Debra evaluates in her Astrology system [12:07] The typical manifestation of the 11th House personality type and how it’s different than Blu’s personality [13:00] The effects of Neptune transiting Pisces through the last few years [13:40] What Blu would suggest as a change of the human experience [15:30] How to get to radical acceptance [18:08] What Blu wishes people would do… [19:27] The soul as described by a Sagittarius Rising [21:28] The shadow of dishonor and coming back into a heart-centered place [22:26] BSMT- what it means and how it helps Blu traverse and process emotions without forming an emotional weapon [23:29] When Blu and Debra first met [24:53] The importance of admitting to judgements and staying transparent [25:28] Debra shares about how Blu inspired her [25:44] How Debra checks in daily and yearly with prayer and karma [27:00] Blu speaking to plant medicine and how that is indicated in her Astrological chart [33:00] A view on healing in the Aquarian age [36:08] Is Blu an optimist or a pessimist, and how does she view the future? [38:18] The big takeaway and gift within this podcast [39:38] What Debra reminds Blu of [40:16] A call to let go of the ego/comparisonitis and press the free will button [40:52] Debra’s prayer every day of her pregnancy [42:16] The shifts that happened as Debra processed her first podcast interview with Blu [44:00] Blu’s reflection of what it will feel like to be in her fifties [46:04] Musings on timelessness and authenticity that everyone has rights to in the name of spiritual and human evolution [47:48] The pinnacle of the human experience as described by Blu [48:26] A call to be prepared to fall in love [49:45] Blu’s function as an example in this life and Debra’s contribution to her cause [51:15] Adding another dimension of magic into our human existence [51:50] Debra disclosed a secret on Blu’s podcast [52:11] A recap of Blu’s Astrological chart and what it says about her contributions and purpose
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Return To Nature with Zach Bush
04/04/2023
Return To Nature with Zach Bush
Return to nature to heal… that’s one of the major messages in this unencumbered and evolutionary conversation with Dr. Zach Bush. Zach Bush, MD is a renowned, multi-disciplinary physician of internal medicine, endocrinology, hospice care and internationally recognized educator on the microbiome as it relates to human health, soil health, food systems, and a regenerative future. Zach joins Debra and covers a vast array of subjects; from our unawareness of the faults in the American food system to the sixth extinction to microbiomes to the importance of reconnecting to nature and its integral part in our healing and future. This conversation is interwoven with the radically different and futuristic visions that are absolutely achievable, broken down by Zach’s Aquarius Rising. Debra walks through Zach’s Astrological chart and details the placements that point to Zach’s mindset, his purpose, and a specific message from the Divine. Zach and Debra take us through so many important subjects and questions for ourselves like, “What is our co-creative role in creating with the Divine?” This is not an episode to miss as the roads Zach and Debra traverse in conversation ultimately lead to what they have dubbed our next pandemic of falling in love… Find more information on Dr. Zach Bush at . Zach's Passion Projects: ZBMD ION* FARMER’S FOOTPRINT: THE JOURNEY OF INTRINSIC HEALTH: Key Highlights From The Episode Why we all need to return to nature The moment that Zach moved into his life’s mission Some of Zach’s biggest motivators as described by his Astrological chart Reflections on the flaws of the American food system and its industries The optimism around the sixth extinction Timestamps [01:09] How Zach and Debra got connected [02:30] The introduction of Dr. Zach Bush [03:08] Circling back to Debra’s first podcast interview with shared reflections on Jeff Orlowski’s Chasing Coral and the state of the American food system [06:58] Zach’s Scorpio influence in his chart and how it has played out [09:05] The lack of Earth energy in Zach’s chart and what the natural rhythm of his Astrological chart is [09:53] Zach’s engineering prowess and commitment to alternative fuel sources and chemotherapy approaches [14:12] Zach’s futuristic visions linked to his Aquarius Rising [15:59] Sharing Zach’s Astrological chart [15:59] Sharing Zach’s Astrological chart [19:02] Zach’s journey so far leaning into his purpose and the catalytic moment that put him on his life path [22:55] Is Zach an optimist or pessimist about humanity? [25:21] “Is there a God?” [26:23] “What is the root cause?” [28:17] Isolation as a cell, as a human being, and as our self [32:57] “I wish people would…” [36:08] What it means to have humans connected to soil systems [41:10] The original wound of humanity [43:59] Zach’s optimistic view of getting out of the broken cycle of humanity [44:47] The healing power of nature [46:50] The last time Zach cried [48:39] Who Zach would love to have a conversation with [53:30] Feeling disheartened by the human condition and the realization that will change things [55:30] The acknowledgment of Zach’s soul purpose [56:34] Wisdom for the transition of humanity
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Empowerment and Finding Your Unique Lane with Janne Robinson
03/21/2023
Empowerment and Finding Your Unique Lane with Janne Robinson
Empowerment and finding your unique lane and understanding your unique contribution is what we are missing in today’s world. Put in another way, understanding your self and finding your purpose is the key to unlocking many of our collective issues. That’s the mission behind Debra’s extensive work pairing Astrology and psychology, and it’s a boldly-embodied mission of our guest, Janne Robinson. Blunt, raw, and immediately accessible emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually to all who read her words, Janne Robinson is a societal visionary, author, film director, and coach who swings from the very first sentence. Robinson’s work as an artist and facilitator is to encourage people to become accessible to their truths. She believes that our world is sick—and truth is our medicine. Janne and Debra share many common threads- from the celebration of women’s power and entrepreneurship, to the liberation of our planet, to the brightly-colored tapestry that is a Gemini’s personality, and so much in between. Debra highlights these connections and also breaks down where there are differences between her and Janne as seen in Janne’s Astrological chart, like how the big, spontaneous, and loud effects of Jupiter play a part in giving Janne “extra juju”. Hitchhike on a moving trip to Sedona that Janne recalls having a profound impact on her, and how leaning into the indigenous lessons of that trip have instilled new perspectives on the importance of being in right relation to the planet and to others. This conversation with Janne and Debra is rich with wisdom on our history as tribal people, the power of intuition, and individual empowerment with authentic living. “Let there be no reason to not eat this life alive.” Enjoy! This Is For The Women Who Don't Give A Fuck: Website: www.jannerobinson.com Instagram: @jannerobinson Key Highlights From The Episode Empowerment and leaning into your purpose How everyone identifying their own unique lane (and staying in) would be a game-changer Moving out of outdated societal perspectives Happiness in life does not equate to the economy game we play How Astrology helps to integrate and name parts of who we are Timestamps [03:11] How Janne would describe herself and her work [04:50] Janne’s three books [05:55] Janne’s Astrological chart [08:06] Janne’s thoughts on how we help the planet and her big message [11:00] What Janne wishes people would do [11:44] Something that Janne can’t live without [12:51] What Janne would be doing if she wasn’t captured by her cause [14:02] Janne’s definition of liberation [15:00] A shared function of the Gemini energy in Janne and Debra [16:16] Looking back at Janne’s chart and identifying Janne’s energy [16:57] The gift of Astrology in identifying your purpose [17:30] How Janne works with women [18:32] Janne’s perspective as a Renaissance woman and how that shows up in her work [20:32] Where Janne and Debra are different (a nod to Taurus and Gemini) [21:59] Debra’s perspective on intimacy and relationships [23:50] How Janne’s commitment to being so thoroughly herself shows up in her chart [26:52] How we lived in the past and how we are living (and need to live) now [28:51] How we can be colorful without wearing a costume [29:11] What Janne was like growing up, building her own world, and how that connects to her Astrological chart [30:58] Who Janne would want to have a conversation with across time and history [32:00] Janne’s experience in Sedona and what she felt in her intuitive body [36:46] The last time Janne had a good cry [38:05] Janne’s experiences with and reflections on Astrology [39:18] What Janne wished Debra asked her about [41:17] A message from Debra on comparisonitis [42:47] The right answers to moving forward [43:58] Finishing with a prayer [45:04] Where and how to find Janne [47:06] Janne’s reflections of appreciation towards Debra
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The Road from Scarcity to Prosperity with Jolie Dawn
03/07/2023
The Road from Scarcity to Prosperity with Jolie Dawn
Overview If the road from scarcity to prosperity isn’t on your map, it’s time to pave your own road. Debra connects with Jolie Dawn, an intuitive business coach, writer for Entrepreneur Magazine, and the bestselling author of eight Amazon books including Empowered, Sexy and Free. Embodying the title of her work, Jolie reflects on the myriad of ways that the Universe put her on the path to where she is now, helping her create her very own road to prosperity and deep self-love. Armed with the tools Jolie collected through her life experiences, her life’s work is financial empowerment through entrepreneurship with support from a trauma-informed way. Jolie and Debra discuss the implications of abundant Earth energy. Using Jolie’s Astrological chart Debra shows the high road and low road and how it has manifested in Jolie’s life. Jolie and Debra also take a deep dive into Jolie’s family life, highlighting the differences in generational perspectives and how the choices Jolie made in her life were vastly different from her parents. Jolie embodies the freedom to follow your own rhythm on your own terms; this conversation highlights catalytic moments and will inspire you to think about your own scarcity mindset and self-doubt. Speaking of a shift in mindset, if you have any doubts or ambivalence about Astrology, tune in for Jolie’s first hand experience of how her time with Debra shifted her perspective on the power and accuracy of Astrology. Key Highlights From The Episode Jolie’s road from scarcity to prosperity How trauma can be a catalyst for mindset shifts The spectrum of Earth energy and how it can play out The importance of following your own rhythm How much Jolie’s Astrological practice has impacted her Timestamps [00:52] Introduction of Jolie Dawn [02:09] Who Jolie is within the business world [04:05] The writer in Jolie [05:16] The juxtaposition of Jolie’s Earth and Debra’s Air in their Astrological charts [06:20] A message about youth experiences and the functions of the brain [06:50] A traumatic event in Jolie’s life and how it affected her life [10:20] Discussing Jolie’s Astrological chart [13:40] Jolie’s Saturn Return and her mother’s passing [15:40] The transmutation of parental and generational karma [16:35] What Jolie’s focus would be if she wasn’t focused on online business and how it relates to her Rising Sign [17:37] “I wish people would…” [18:37] Something in life Jolie couldn't live without [18:58] Someone no longer living that Jolie would love to have a conversation with [19:23] What Jolie loves about her career [20:22] The wisdom Jolie would love to impart on her younger self [21:12] Jolie’s Moon sign and why she sometimes wishes she had a different Moon sign in her chart [23:34] How much Jolie’s Astrological practice has impacted her [24:48] The generational differences between Debra and Jolie [26:50] The rejection Debra received in her graduate studies [27:50] What turns Jolie on about work [28:31] Jolie’s experience of reframing prosperity from what her mother taught her and how her past relationship was part of the catalyst to support her karmic future [32:11] Jolie’s past ambivalence about Astrology and how her mindset shifted with Debra [33:55] What stayed with Jolie the most in her time studying with Debra [34:56] What Debra saw with Jolie’s growth from studying Astrology [35:57] The distinction in Debra’s Astrological studying system [36:25] Debra’s gratitude for Jolie and Jolie sharing a funny line about their friendship
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