Good Faith
Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.
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Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis
11/13/2025
Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis
A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to “welcome the stranger”, explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief’s Churches of Welcome. (02:11) - What Is a Refugee? (08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement (14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees (23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants (29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes (43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene for Personal and Group Study Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: (Lifeway Research) Learn about What is the Facts about Learn More about Learn more about Scripture Mentioned: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) - The Good Samaritan More From Myal Greene and World Relief: Learn more about Become a World Relief Join World Relief’s Give to (Organization collaborating with World Relief) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare’s The Tempest
11/06/2025
Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare’s The Tempest
Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero’s struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare’s “magic” and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica’s discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT. (02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic (05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions? (11:03) - The Change in Prospero (13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts (18:53) - The Temptation of AI (21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: William Shakespeare’s (entire play) Andy Crouch’s (ESV) - Jacob Wrestling with God or “the Angel” C.S. Lewis’s (pdf) The Tempest Act V, Scene 1: “” (ESV) - Jesus as the Word or “logos” (ESV) - the metaphor of milk and solid food More From Jessica Hooten Wilson: Explore Jessica’s books Read articles and Essay by Jessica Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity
10/30/2025
David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity
How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival? Good Faith “founding friend” David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today’s supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z’s shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape. (02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity? (06:36) - It’s Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival (09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like? (12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity (20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together (29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America (39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: David French’s article Barna Research: Tim Keller’s article (The Gospel Coalition) Tim Keller’s message Read (ESV) - Peter preaches from Joel and repentance breaks out Read (ESV) - Isaiah’s call and commission George Whitefield and the (Christian Union America) Kevin Brown’s article (Christianity Today) What is ? What is Differing Opinions: (PBS) Rodney Stark (PBS) Read (ESV) - Peace with God through faith Listen: Good Faith episode 30 Ryan Burge: More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Sara Billups Explores ‘Nervous Systems’ and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life
10/23/2025
Sara Billups Explores ‘Nervous Systems’ and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life
Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence? Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today’s chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture. (02:23) - Navigating Anxiety in Uncertain Times (04:35) - Understanding Anxiety Across Generations (18:58) - Navigating Anxiety With Holy Indifference (26:00) - Anxiety in Churches, Politics, and Systems (28:15) - Churches Cultivating Non-Anxious Presence (33:43) - Finding a Spiritual Home in Crisis (41:20) - Sara’s Message a Generation of Anxious Young Adults Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Sara Billups’ (Cleveland Clinic) Curt Thompson discusses (episode of Curt’s podcast) Ignatius’ St. Teresa of Lisieux’s The story behind the hymn Frederick Buechner describes (video) Frederick Buechner’s (ESV) Jesus prays in Gethsemane Edwin Friedman’s Edwin Friedman’s (Jack Shitima’s Non-Anxious Leader blog) Mark Sayers’s The ignatian concept of Thomas McKenzie’s Tim Keller’s (Series of audio messages) Christianity Today’s (podcast) 22 Explore Good Faith episode featuring More from Sara Billups: Sara Billups’ Sara Billups’ (substack) Sara Billups’ (with Morgan Page) Follow Us: Sign up:
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When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors
10/16/2025
When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors
What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids? In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis “Paco” Amador about the struggles of Chicago’s immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear. (03:15) - Immigration and Community in Chicago (05:49) - Impact of Immigration Raids on Community (12:54) - Immigration Rights Issues (15:35) - Community Support (17:38) - How Does the Bible Speak To the Immigrant’s Experience? (19:37) - Migrants and Persecution (27:00) - A Faith Revival in Immigrant Communities (34:00) - Immigration Reform and Order (39:10) - Migrants Fleeing Collapsing Dictatorships for Personal and Group Study Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Images of ICE raids in (the month of October) (ESV) The Beatitudes (ESV) The Scattering of the Church (ESV) The Call of Abraham Justo L. Gonzalez’s Justo L. Gonzalez’s More from Paco Amador Paco Amador: Little Village: (substack article) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)
10/09/2025
David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)
How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism? Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America. (02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America (11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America (17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism (26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History (33:43) - America’s Story and a Universal “us”? (36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776 (44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism (48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others (55:45) - Security About the Truth of America Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry’s Thomas Kidd’s (article) (article & date) David French: (2/25/24) Derek Bell’s Matt Yglesias’s C.S. Lewis on C.S. Lewis on C.S. Lewis on More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Reflecting on the Beatitudes: Prayer for the Church, Our Nation, and Each Other
10/06/2025
Reflecting on the Beatitudes: Prayer for the Church, Our Nation, and Each Other
Join Curtis Chang, host of the Good Faith Podcast, along with co-leaders Chuck Mingo, Sarah Billups, Russell Moore, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Mark Turman, as they move listeners through a series of guided prayers based on the Beatitudes. This pastoral effort invites the audience to recalibrate their spiritual focus and pray for the church, our country, and one another. Beginning with “Blessed are the poor in spirit” and culminating in rejoicing and gladness, this time of reflection and prayer encourages all-comers to renew their hope, reclaim peace, and follow Christ faithfully in a divided world. (01:05) - Welcome from Curtis Chang (03:47) - Centering Silence (04:20) - Blessed Are the Poor In Spirit: Curtis Chang (09:50) - Blessed Are Those Who Mourn (13:39) - Blessed Are the Meek: Chuck Mingo (14:58) - Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst For Righteousness:Sara Billups (16:49) - Blessed Are the Merciful: Sara Billups (17:59) - Prayer For the Church Universal From the Book of Common Prayer: Sara Billups (19:45) - Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: Russell Moore (22:14) - Blessed Are the Peacemakers: Russell Moore (24:08) - Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted: Kaitlyn Schiess (27:35) - Prayers For the Needs of God’s Work: Kaitlyn Schiess (28:39) - Rejoice and Be Glad: Mark Turman (32:12) - Hope and Joy in Christ: Mark Turman Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Scriptures Referenced: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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A.J. Swoboda: A Teachable Spirit In Today’s Divided World
10/02/2025
A.J. Swoboda: A Teachable Spirit In Today’s Divided World
Can Our Enemies Teach Us Anything? A.J. Swoboda joins the Good Faith podcast to unpack how cultivating a teachable spirit and practicing true discipleship means learning from enemies, strangers, and neighbors in a divided world. He emphasizes how to recognize real experts amid alternate facts and subjective “truths,” and tells how the countercultural practice of learning from anyone—regardless of agreement—fosters humility, empathy, and connection, insights drawn from his book A Teachable Spirit. (03:11) - Cultivating a Teachable Spirit (09:38) - Reverse Prophecy and Calling Out Your Tribe (17:55) - Experts & Expertise (22:09) - Sola Scriptura vs. “Solo” Scriptura (23:27) - Jesus Would Be the Best At Anything (32:04) - Replacing Our Neighbors With Technology (45:03) - Learning From Enemies Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: A.J. Swoboda’s How John Calvin understood the Erving Goffman’s (pdf) More about Fuller Seminary’s Roger Kneebone: Understanding Erving Goffman’s Dallas Willard’s sermon: (video) Dallas Willard’s (article) (article) Scriptures Referenced: The Sermon on the Mount: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) More From A.J. Swoboda: A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta’s A.J. Swoboda’s A.J. Swoboda’s Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Elizabeth Neumann on Violence Prevention, Safety, & True Security
09/25/2025
Elizabeth Neumann on Violence Prevention, Safety, & True Security
How Is Radicalization A Risk in Online Spaces? Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, former DHS counterterrorism leader, to explore the rise of political violence in our digital world. From Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the role of memes, online gaming, and extremist recruitment, they uncover how radicalization thrives—and where faith communities, government, and citizens can step in to push back against hate and defend freedom. (01:54) - Understanding and Preventing Political Violence (08:22) - The Broader Context of Rising Violence (12:03) - Addressing Root Causes of Mass Violence (21:29) - Online Gaming and Extremism Concerns (27:15) - Rating the Trump Administration’s Response to the Crisis (34:09) - Government Response to Political Violence (42:34) - Jesus Followers and the Threat of Violence Register for the Good Faith live prayer event Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Recommended Resource: An Independent article: Elizabeth Newman’s book From the U.N.: (pdf) Learn about: (the United States Attorney’s Office District of Columbia) Learn how More From Elizabeth Neumann: Check out Elizebeth Neumann’s Elizabeth Neumann’s Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French on Political Violence in America and Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
09/18/2025
David French on Political Violence in America and Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
What Does Charlie Kirk’s Murder Reveal About Extremism and Division? Host Curtis Chang sits down with Good Faith “founding friend” and New York Times writer David French to reflect on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and what it reveals about the rise of political violence in America. Together, they explore how formative experiences have shaped Baby Boomers and Gen Z differently, the role of influencers versus institutions, and the dangers of extremism across the political spectrum. With compassion for the personal tragedy at the center of this event, they also highlight the church’s role on the path toward healing and rebuilding trust in a deeply divided nation. Register for the Good Faith live prayer event Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Poll Results: (internal WSJ generational poll %s) (Politifact/PBS) (Reuters, 2023) Spencer Cox’s Utah Gov. Spencer Cox Pope Leo (video) David French on Charlie Kirk’s Murder and Political Violence: David French: David French: Roundtable discussion, including David French: David French’s More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, and Emily Wilson on Women’s Spiritual Battles
09/11/2025
C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, and Emily Wilson on Women’s Spiritual Battles
Modern Challenges of Self-Worth and Lies Host Curtis Chang talks with author and women’s ministry leader Emily Wilson about faith, motherhood, and battling the lies of shame and self-hatred. Drawing from C.S. Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters and her new book Sincerely, Stoneheart, Emily explores how screens, productivity pressures, and cultural messages distort our identity—and how the truth of God’s love can set us free. (00:01) - Reimagining CS Lewis for Modern Times (04:54) - Women and Good vs. Evil (08:27) - Women and Men’s Unique Vulnerabilities to Evil (13:03) - Did C.S. Lewis Miss Something About Women? (14:53) - C.S. Lewis and Friendship (19:08) - Unveiling Truths About Motherhood and Screens (28:01) - The Lie of Productivity Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Emily Wilson’s Learn more about (C.S. Lewis Institute) The Background surrounding More about Lewis’s Listen to Good Faith with Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLea authors of Moms at the Well NIH’s (abstract) More from Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson’s Find Emily Wilson on Watch Emily Wilson on Find Emily Wilson on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dr. Alison Cook Confronts Shame, Inner Critics, & Competing Emotions
09/04/2025
Dr. Alison Cook Confronts Shame, Inner Critics, & Competing Emotions
Why Is Your Inner Life So Complicated? Host Curtis Chang and therapist Dr. Alison Cook connect dive into conversation about the intersection of Christian faith, psychology, and emotional health. Together they explore how overcoming shame, naming emotions, and quieting one’s inner critic can lead to spiritual growth and deeper empathy. Drawing on the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, Dr. Cook provides tools to manage the competing voices within. (00:01) - Exploring Inner and Outer Complexity (03:45) - Compassionate Curiosity and Inner Complexity (17:16) - Unlocking Inner Complexity Through Exploration (22:28) - Navigating the Inner Soul Complexity (33:48) - Cultivating Inner Harmony for Leadership (37:45) - Journey of Inner Exploration Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional health and inner well being. Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Learn more about Learn more about Dr. Anna Lembke’s Read ESV (and related scriptures) Henry Nouwen: (video, 1994) Explaining (video) Explore the Read about More from Dr. Alison Cook: Explore Dr. Cook’s Listen to Dr. Cook’s podcast: Read Dr. Cook’s book Read Dr. Cook’s book Follow Us: Sign up:
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Daniel’s Campfire Story: Building Bridges in a Divided America
09/01/2025
Daniel’s Campfire Story: Building Bridges in a Divided America
We Can Find Common Ground Even in Washington, D.C. Good Faith’s series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, Daniel, a pastor in Reston, Virginia, reflects on 23 years of ministry near Washington D.C., where politics and faith are in constant conversation. Inspired to bring the community – inside and outside of his church – together through civic discourse, he championed an initiative to create spaces for meal sharing and meaningful dialogue, creating curiosity and seeking unity across political lines. Daniel’s story shows how one pastor can change the way we do church to cultivate reconciliation, hope, and community in the most polarized of towns. Send your Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org
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The Epstein Files, Conspiracy Theories, and the Church with Emily Belz & Pete Wehner
08/28/2025
The Epstein Files, Conspiracy Theories, and the Church with Emily Belz & Pete Wehner
From Jeffrey Epstein to QAnon, Why Do Conspiracies Thrive in Churches? The Atlantic’s Pete Wehner, Christianity Today’s Emily Belz, and host Curtis Chang dive into QAnon, conspiracy theories, and the MAGA movement’s influence on American politics, culture, and the church. From Donald Trump’s messianic image to the shadows of Jeffrey Epstein, they reveal why conspiracies thrive in times of distrust—and how faith communities can fight back with truth and resilience. (01:58) - Understanding the QAnon Conspiracy Movement (04:10) - The Impact of QAnon Beliefs (10:55) - The Role of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death (17:13) - Christian Vulnerability to Conspiracy Theories (25:13) - The History of Christianity and Conspiracies (30:14) - The Grip of Trump on MAGA (40:36) - Challenges Facing Church Leadership Today Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Emily Belz: Pete Wehner: Wired: FOX News: (March 3) Politico: New York Times: Life Way Research: American Enterprise Institute: Nicholas Carr's More about More about More from Emily Belz & Pete Wehner: Emily Belz’s article at Pete Wehner’s articles at Follow Us: Sign up:
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John Kasich on Suffering, Truth, and the Power of Local Faith Communities
08/21/2025
John Kasich on Suffering, Truth, and the Power of Local Faith Communities
Faithful Actions and a Blueprint for Societal Healing Former Ohio Governor John Kasich joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to share how character, faith, and even suffering shape real leadership in a divided America. Drawing from the Governor’s new book Heaven Help Us, he and Curtis unpack why objective truth matters more than ever, how faith communities and neighborhoods can spark real change, and why grassroots action beats toxic politics every time. The conversation explores the power of authentic relationships and faith-driven hope to help fix what’s broken in our neighborhoods and our country. (00:01) - Finding Faith Amid Suffering and Service (08:31) - Character, Faith, and Political Analysis (19:20) - Community Engagement and Faith-Based Action (32:51) - Inspiring Faith Communities and Hope Send written questions or voice memos for “Ask Curtis” episodes to: Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Governor Kasich’s book Ernie Johnson’s (starting at 4:05) Different versions of the scripture about Read about Audio Archives featuring A theological unpacking of Books by Tim Keller’s Gospel in Life The history of the Learn more about More from Governor John Kasich: Governor Kasich’s Governor Kasich’s book Governor Kasich’s book Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dr. Curt Thompson: Is God Still Good When the Pain Doesn’t Go Away?
08/14/2025
Dr. Curt Thompson: Is God Still Good When the Pain Doesn’t Go Away?
What if suffering isn’t the enemy—but the doorway to beauty, connection, and hope? Psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins host Curtis Chang for a raw and redemptive conversation on how pain, anxiety, and fear of abandonment shape our lives and our faith. Grounded in both Scripture and neuroscience, this episode challenges the myths we carry about control and invites us into deeper attachment with God and others. (00:01) - Exploring Suffering and Transformation Send Campfire Stories to: Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Thompson's Dr. Thompson's C.S. Lewis’s C.S. Lewis’s Scripture mentioned in this episode: Read (ESV) - Jesus’ question to James and John Read (ESV) - God tells the man He will surely die Read (ESV) - The narrative of creation and fall, as the origins of suffering Read (ESV) - Jesus is God’s glory Read (ESV) - The Psalm quoted by Jesus in the Gethsemane More from Dr. Curt Thompson: Dr. Thompson’s Dr. Thompson’s Dr. Thompson’s Follow Us: Sign up:
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Gaza, the U.S., and Political Divides with Nathan Stock
08/07/2025
Gaza, the U.S., and Political Divides with Nathan Stock
Finding Common Ground in a Divided World What can strife in Israel and Palestine teach us about America’s own political polarization? Host Curtis Chang sits down with conflict resolution expert Nathan Stock of the Carter Center to explore some of the hard truths from Middle East—and the surprising parallels here at home. From media-fueled division to the hope for bipartisan breakthroughs, Curtis and Nathan unpack how deep-rooted conflict forms—and offer pathways to bring healing and hope. (00:01) - Navigating Conflict in the Middle East (14:05) - Lessons from Northern Ireland and South Africa (16:42) - Building Hope for Conflict Resolution (25:18) - Different Brain Types and Polarization (26:30) - Bridging Political Divides to Further U.S. Unity (39:27) - Building Community Through Shared Stories Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Summary: (U.S. Dept. of State) Overview: (U.S. Congress) An Explanation of (The Red Cross) An Explanation of (Associated Press) Remembering (U.S. Office of the Historian) Abstract: (Science Advances) John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith, & John R. Alford’s book NPR Poll: The Carter Center’s Conflict Work: Nathan Stock’s article: The Carter Center’s The Carter Center’s The Carter Center’s More In Common Studies: Follow Us: Sign up:
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Redefining Neighbor and the Fight Against Poverty with Gisele Garraway
07/31/2025
Redefining Neighbor and the Fight Against Poverty with Gisele Garraway
Empathy and Empowerment in Economic Challenges What if economic justice isn’t about charity—but solidarity and investment? Harvard MBA Giselle Garraway shares how she left corporate America to found ThriveFunds, a platform that empowers working poor families with dignity-centered investments in their everyday lives. From a street sweeper chasing dreams of restoring a broken family to a working mom caring for both her husband and aging parents, Curtis and Gisele uncover how small, targeted support and investments can transform lives—and shift hearts across economic lines. They explore systemic setbacks and challenge some of the myths of meritocracy while asking: what does it truly mean to love your neighbor today? (00:01) - Introduction (02:48) - Gisele Garraway’s Story and Work (12:42) - Investing in Working Families (19:55) - Building Bridges Across Economic Divides (36:15) - Systemic Aspects of Government Benefits and Poverty (47:35) - Embodying Human Solidarity in Community (56:11) - Credits Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Matthew Desmond’s Matthew Desmond’s Gallup Study: USA Today: The United Way’s research on Richard Rothstein’s Tom Holland’s Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr’s Scripture Passages About Caring for the Poor: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) More about ThriveFunds: Learn More about Explore Be Encouraged by Bio: Follow Us: Sign up:
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David French & Russell Moore: Superman Isn't Just a Movie, He's a Mirror of America
07/24/2025
David French & Russell Moore: Superman Isn't Just a Movie, He's a Mirror of America
Is Superman Woke—or Just Wonderfully Human? Can a superhero cut through the world’s chaos better than a political debate or another sermon? New York Times columnist David French and Christianity Today editor-in-chief Russell Moore explore why Superman still strikes a cultural nerve—especially in the age of outrage and “wokeness” debates. From his immigrant origins to the often-overlooked theme of adoption, they unpack how James Gunn’s 2025 reboot revives timeless questions about identity, belonging, moral courage, and kindness. This conversation is more than capes and kryptonite—it’s a surprising, thoughtful, and even fun look at the stories shaping who we are. (00:00) - Exploring the Resonance of Superhero Myths (07:24) - Fun That Connects To Deeper Needs (10:10) - A Jewish Immigrant’s Myth (15:40) - Exploring James Gunn’s Superman 2025 (23:06) - Is Superman Woke? (27:04) - Kindness as a Countercultural Value (34:11) - Parenting With Superheroes and Morals (51:09) - Credits Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Russell Moore’s article David French’s column J.R.R. Tolkien’s J.R.R. Tolkien’s (an essay) C.S. Lewis’ “True Myth”: C.S. Lewis’ (veil of familiarity) Grant Morrison’s Official Trailer: Sonny Bunch’s article A short interview with Superman’s creators (video) Übermensch Explained: The Times interview Read (NLT) Social Commentary in Wonder Woman vol. 5 Annual #1 (video) Relevant Magazine: More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on More From Russell Moore: Sign up for Russell Moore’s weekly newsletter Listen to (podcast) Follow Us: Sign up:
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David French: Jordan Peterson, Young Men, & Virtuous Masculinity
07/17/2025
David French: Jordan Peterson, Young Men, & Virtuous Masculinity
What Role Does Jordan Peterson Play in Shaping Young Men's Views on Masculinity? Host Curtis Chang teams up with “founding friend” and New York Times columnist David French to unpack David’s recent conversation with Jordan Peterson—and the crisis facing young men today. From mental health struggles to educational decline, David and Curtis take a hard look at what’s shaping young male identity in modern America, including the outsized influence of figures like Peterson. They explore how political polarization, digital culture, and a loss of purpose are driving young men to extremes. Most importantly, they offer a redemptive vision: practical ways to cultivate virtuous masculinity through mentorship, community, and spiritual formation. Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: David’s column David French appears on (NIH) (from C.S. Lewis’ The Abolition of Man) Admiral William H. McRaven’s : A Conversation with Richard Reeves Richard Reeves’ More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dr. Kara Powell: Hope For Hurting Teens
07/10/2025
Dr. Kara Powell: Hope For Hurting Teens
Teen Anxiety Is Skyrocketing—How Can Parents and Churches Help? Anxiety is overwhelming today’s teens—and Curtis Chang knows the struggle firsthand. Joined by “founding friend” David French and Dr. Kara Powell of the Fuller Youth Institute, this deep dive into the mental health crisis facing our youth, exposes the pressure-cooker of social media, why parenting style matters, and why anxiety and depression continue to rise. If you're tired of hand-wringing and ready for hope-filled action, this conversation delivers clarity, challenge, and compassion. Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode seeks to empower parents to help the next generation to navigate anxiety with faith and community. Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: The work of the The Fuller Youth Institute’s Fuller Youth Institute’s Jonathan Haidt: CDC: New York times: Angela Duckworth’s Angela Duckworth’s Lisa DaMour’s Scott Cormode Dr. Powell on Dr. Powell on More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Beth Moore: Spiritual Resets in a Chaotic World
07/03/2025
Beth Moore: Spiritual Resets in a Chaotic World
Navigating Spiritual Disruption, Denominational Shifts, and Starting Over What happens when your spiritual home no longer fits—and life threatens to spiral? Curtis Chang and bestselling author and speaker Beth Moore get real about the realities of spiritual resets, mental health struggles, and finding gospel-centered hope in unexpected places. This timely episode explores how disruption can open the door to renewal, even when a spiritual reset is unwelcome. Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Barna: (2020) ChurchTrac: (2025) Medical News Today: (NLT & AMP) (NLT & AMP) More From Beth Moore: Beth Moore’s Beth Moore’s Follow Us: Sign up:
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Andy Crouch: Radical Loyalty In Our Fractured World
06/26/2025
Andy Crouch: Radical Loyalty In Our Fractured World
Finding the Biblical Ruth and Boaz In Today’s Culture of Confusion What does an ancient love story have to say about modern chaos? Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch dive into the Book of Ruth to uncover radical lessons on redemption, loyalty, and faithfulness that challenge today’s culture of individualism and spiritual mobility. From Naomi’s grief to Ruth’s fierce commitment and Boaz’s redemptive actions, Andy and Curtis explore how acts of devotion can disrupt systems of power and reshape community. Discover how an old story can offer fresh vision for navigating displacement, hospitality, and purpose in our fractured world. Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Book of (ESV) Rachael Starke’s (TGC article) (ESV) - the Levite’s concubine N.T. Wright explains (video) Understanding the Understanding The role of and More From Andy Crouch: Interact with Andy’s Check out Andy’s work at Read Andy’s book: Read Andy’s book: Follow Us: Sign up:
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David French’s Five Best Ways to Pray For America
06/19/2025
David French’s Five Best Ways to Pray For America
Praying for Change: A Path to National Reconciliation Feeling stuck on how to pray for America? You’re not alone—but there is a path forward. In this timely episode, Good Faith “founding friend” and New York Times columnist David French lays out five virtue-based ways to pray for our nation with clarity, courage, and compassion. Drawing upon Scripture with a healthy dose of personal reflection, David extols the importance of praying for America as a daily act to seek God’s best for our country and each other—restoring unity and healing what’s broken. Episode Companion: Donate to Scriptures mentioned in this episode: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) Resources mentioned in this episode: (video) More about the work of Tim Keller’s Dennis F. Kinlaw’s The work of More about the work of The Lost Dogs’ (song & lyrics) More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Andy's Campfire Story: An ER Doctor's Path to Belonging
06/16/2025
Andy's Campfire Story: An ER Doctor's Path to Belonging
Inspired by the Good Faith podcast, ER doctor Andy embarks on a transformative journey from the high-stakes of the emergency room to a profound spiritual rediscovery and move to seek out a real life faith community. Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories, invites listeners to share how the podcast has inspired them to engage deeply with their families and communities. These personal narratives illuminate how individuals like you are grappling with complex issues and fostering meaning right where they live. Join us for Andy's Campfire Story. Send your Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org
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Ray Ortlund: Where Is God When We Are at Rock Bottom?
06/12/2025
Ray Ortlund: Where Is God When We Are at Rock Bottom?
How do you hold on to faith when life falls apart? Pastor and author Ray Ortlund joins host Curtis Chang for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about suffering, betrayal, regret, and even death—drawing from personal stories and the powerful promise of Isaiah 57:15. From the fractures of the global church to intimate heartbreak, Curtis and Ray explore how spiritual honesty, resurrection hope, the Psalms, and lived community can sustain us through rock-bottom moments. If you're facing pain, loss, or doubt, Ray offers a faithful roadmap toward healing and hope. Resources mentioned in this episode: John Wesley’s Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s (pdf) A discussion on ESV NIRV ESV More From Ray Ortlund: Ray Ortlund’s Ray Ortlund & Sam Alberry’s podcast: Ray Ortlund’s Follow Ray Ortlund on Follow Ray Ortlund on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Can the Church Resist Political Extremism Again? with Paul D. Miller
06/05/2025
Can the Church Resist Political Extremism Again? with Paul D. Miller
What can 1920s Germany teach us about American politics today? Georgetown professor and national security expert Dr. Paul D. Miller joins host Curtis Chang to explore striking parallels between the Weimar Republic and our current moment of democratic fragility. From the rise of Christian nationalism to the erosion of institutional norms, they unpack the theological, historical, and civic fault lines shaping today’s polarized landscape. Buckle up—this episode is for anyone ready to trade tribalism for truth and confront the urgent role Christians must play in defending democracy. Send written questions or voice memos for “Ask Curtis” episodes to: Send Campfire Stories to: Resources mentioned in this episode: Paul D. Miller’s article: Paul D. Miller’s previous appearance on the Good Faith podcast: The history of the (video) More From Paul D. Miller: Paul D. Miller’s Paul D. Miller on Paul D. Miller at Follow Us: Sign up:
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Michael Luo: Exclusion and Belonging in Immigrant America
05/29/2025
Michael Luo: Exclusion and Belonging in Immigrant America
What does it mean to truly belong in America? Michael Luo, executive editor at The New Yorker and author of Strangers in the Land, joins Redeeming Babel’s director of content, DT Slouffman, to explore the Asian American experience—from the legacy of the Chinese Exclusion Act to the rise in anti-Asian hate during the COVID-19 pandemic. Drawing from personal stories and a viral moment that sparked national conversation, Luo confronts the “perpetual foreigner” stereotype and envisions a more inclusive vision of American identity. DT and Michael unpack how race, immigration, and belonging continue to shape all of our lives. Send written questions or voice memos for “Ask Curtis” episodes to: Send Campfire Stories to: Resources mentioned in this episode: Michael Luo’s Kirkus Reviews: More From Michael Luo: Michael Luo’s Michael Luo’s latest articles at Follow Michael Luo on Follow Michael Luo on Follow Us: Sign up:
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David French Goes Back to School with Gen Z
05/22/2025
David French Goes Back to School with Gen Z
Professor French Tells What Gen Z Can Teach All of Us! What happens when one of America's top legal minds steps back into the classroom—only to be schooled by Gen Z? New York Times columnist and Good Faith contributor David French joins Curtis Chang to reflect on what a year of teaching college students taught him about faith, over-parenting, and the future of American democracy. Together, they explore whether this rising generation is rejecting political tribalism in favor of ethical engagement—or simply afraid to speak up in polarized times. Could Gen Z's quiet shift reshape our fractured public square? Send written questions or voice memos for “Ask Curtis” episodes to: Send Campfire Stories to: Resources mentioned in this episode: More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dan Allender: Trauma, Trust, and the Truth About Marriage
05/15/2025
Dan Allender: Trauma, Trust, and the Truth About Marriage
How Do We Overcome the Hidden Forces Behind Marital Challenges? How does your relationships—or even your parents’ marriage—shape the way you see beauty, brokenness, and the world itself? Therapist Dan Allender joins host Curtis Chang for a raw, insightful conversation on how relationships form the backbone of our worldview, especially in times of stress and trauma. They unpack hidden triggers behind marital conflict, the power of empathy over contempt, and why kindness and repentance are key to lasting connection. Whether you're navigating conflict or craving deeper intimacy, this episode delivers transformative wisdom for healthier, faith-rooted relationships. Resources mentioned in this episode: Read Becky Allender’s Learn more about Steve Call’s Learn more about the work of Drs. John & Julie Gottman at More From Dan Allender: Dan Allender & Steve Call’s Learn more about Dan’s work at Check out Dan Allender’s other Follow Us: Sign up:
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