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Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.
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David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration
01/29/2026
David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration
What Can Christians Do and Will It Work? In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang and David French name what’s happening to American democracy right now: “Dual State America,” where life feels normal—until the Trump administration’s lawless prerogative power snaps into place. From the Renee Good case to Orwellian spin and rising political violence, they trace how authoritarianism spreads by redefining reality and daring ordinary people not to resist. French’s gut-check: stop waiting for someone else to save the country—do something your grandkids will recognize as courage. 02:40 - What Is The "Dual State"? 06:25 - What Does The Renee Good Shooting Show Us? 11:03 - Potential For Resistance and Change 15:32 - The Dangers of Rotating Elected Authoritarians 20:03 - The "Gradually, Then Suddenly" Collapse 24:30 - What Can Individuals Do? 35:31 - The Risk and Uncertainty of Action 37:10 - Embracing Faithfulness Over Effectiveness 47:27 - Christians and The Integrity of Words 47:58 - What Sustains David French? More about the Religious Landscape Study Register for the Sign up for the Mentioned In This Episode: David French: Ernst Frenkel’s (pdf) Ernst Frenkel’s Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s George Orwell’s Re-read the Read (article) More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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The Vanishing Church and Why It’s Hurting American Democracy with Ryan Burge
01/22/2026
The Vanishing Church and Why It’s Hurting American Democracy with Ryan Burge
The Rise of the “Nones” and the Politics Driving People Out of Church In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Ryan Burge joins Curtis Chang to explore The Vanishing Church and the decline of moderate American congregations, using hard data and his lived experience as a longtime pastor, political scientist, and statistician. Ryan and Curtis explore how evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics, and the religious “nones” are changing—and what that means for polarization, social cohesion, and democracy in America. Burge offers a practical challenge for the lonely or spiritually curious—show up to church even if you don’t believe—and makes a case for gratitude and community in an anxious age. 06:25 - Evangelicals: Political Shift and Homogeneity 13:59 - Mainline Protestants: Decline and Diversity 19:06 - Aging and Future of Mainline Churches 23:05 - American Catholics: Stability and Rightward Shift 28:31 - Priest Shortages and Cultural Challenges 30:36 - The Rise of the Nones 31:25 - Political Drivers of Religious Disaffiliation 40:17 - Polarization: Politics and Economics 47:54 - Addressing Polarization: Individual Responsibility 50:23 - Advice for Pastors: Preaching Beyond Politics 52:31 - Signs of Hope and Gratitude Register for the Sign up for the Mentioned In This Episode: Ryan Burge’s Read (ESV) Read (ESV) Ryan Burge, Michael Graham, and Jim Davis’ More about More from Ryan Burge: Substack: Follow Ryan on X (formerly Twitter): More about Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Pete Wehner: What Happens When Morality Leaves U.S. Foreign Policy? Venezuela, Greenland, and "Might Makes Right"
01/15/2026
Pete Wehner: What Happens When Morality Leaves U.S. Foreign Policy? Venezuela, Greenland, and "Might Makes Right"
Can Christian Americans Resist Authoritarian Drift? Pete Wehner—The Atlantic columnist and former Reagan and Bush administration staff member—joins host Curtis Chang to ask the uncomfortable question: in Trump’s America, is morality a loser that’s been replaced by the “law of the jungle”—especially in U.S. foreign policy? From Venezuela to a looming Greenland/Denmark showdown that could fracture NATO, Wehner argues we’re watching “might makes right” go mainstream. The antidote, he says, isn’t vibes—it’s resistance: stop living within the lie and start living within the truth. 00:04:23 - Explaining the U.S. Foreign Policy Shift 00:06:36 - What Is America’s Moral Aspiration in Foreign Policy? 00:07:57 - Trump’s "Will to Power" Ethic 00:11:34 - Do We Have Historical Amnesia? 00:16:36 - Contrasting Trump and PEPFAR 00:19:09 - The Disconnect Between Christian Identity and Policy 00:26:34 - Demagogues and Moral Erosion 00:34:19 - President Trump’s Unique Amorality 00:37:10 - Primacy of Human Dignity and Christian Ethics 00:41:01 - Venezuela, Greenland, and Moral Implications 00:44:02 - The Value of Beauty and Creation 00:47:14 - What Are the Limits and Possibilities of Action More about the Religious Landscape Study Sign up for the Mentioned In This Episode: Pete Wehner’s article More about (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief) Anne Applebaum’s William Galston's Jeane Kirkpatrick's essay (Commentary) Václav Havel’s David Brooks’ article (The Atlantic) C.S. Lewis’ idea of active obedience is found in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s "" Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s (literature, 1970) More from Pete Wehner: Pete Wehner’s articles at Pete Wehner’s opinion pieces at Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Katharine Hayhoe: Talking About Christian Climate Action Is a Gospel Issue
01/08/2026
Katharine Hayhoe: Talking About Christian Climate Action Is a Gospel Issue
From Pews to Planet: Faith-Based Steps to Better Creation Stewardship In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and guest Dr. Katherine Hayhoe—Chief Scientist at The Nature Conservancy and a committed evangelical Christian—explore why Christians and churches should care about climate change as a biblical “love your neighbor” issue rooted in justice for the poor and vulnerable. Hayhoe explains how political polarization and “solution aversion” fuel climate skepticism. She introduces the “Six Americas” framework and offers practical guidance for having hopeful, effective conversations that connect climate action to what people already care about. Dr. Hayhoe offers actionable next steps for individuals and congregations—like sharing solutions, starting church initiatives, and leading with hope instead of doom—so Christians can faithfully steward God’s creation. 05:23 - Dr. Hayhoe’s Faith Journey and Science 07:12 - Experiencing Creation’s Vulnerability 09:17 - Is Climate Change a Justice Issue? 10:42 - Encountering Christian Climate Skepticism 18:06 - Christian Organizations and Climate Action 24:35 - Connecting Climate to Personal Values A 28:23 - Navigating Difficult Conversations 33:31 - What Are the "Six Americas" of Climate Attitudes? 43:02 - Scientific Evidence and Human Impact 48:15 - Focusing on Solutions, Not Just Science 50:03 - What Is One Action Step for the Unsure Christian? 53:00 - What Is One Action Step for the Committed Christian 55:00 - Are There Practical Church-Based Climate Actions? Episode Companion: Sign up for the Mentioned In This Episode: Organizations and Networks Websites, Tools, Books, and Newsletters (Video podcast) Colby May’s (ministry Energy Management) Mark Noll’s Dr. John Cook’s Bill McKibben’s Studies and Surveys National Academy of Sciences (2023-2024) (npj) Pew Research: (2023) The Yale Program on Climate Change Communication: (2025) More From Dr. Katharine Hayhoe: Katharine Hayhoe’s Katharine Hayhoe’s Substack: Katharine Hayhoe’s Subscribe to Katharine Hayhoe’s Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Nancy French’s Joyful Grandparenting Lessons & Living Like Tomorrow Isn’t Guaranteed
01/01/2026
Nancy French’s Joyful Grandparenting Lessons & Living Like Tomorrow Isn’t Guaranteed
How Do We Shape Future Generations Well? Nancy French returns to The Good Faith Podcast with host Curtis Chang for a heartfelt, funny, and surprisingly practical conversation about how grandparenting reshapes your view of hope, kids and screens, grief, and what’s worth doing with the time you have—even is that just means “robbing a bank with a Barbie.” This conversation isn’t just for grandparents: it’s for anyone mentoring, parenting, teaching, or influencing the next generation, with practical wisdom on choosing connection, naming loss honestly, and creating space for kids to grow “analog” and resilient. Nancy also explains why legacy and being remembered aren’t the point—what matters is faithfully loving the people in front of you and passing on stability, courage, and hope that outlasts you. 02:05 - Why Did Nancy Choose a Year as Primary Caregiver To Her Grandpkids? 07:44 - No screens and the value of analog, imaginative play. 13:15 - Preserving Children’s Natural Hope 14:26 - Navigating Difficult Topics with Children 17:14 - The Value of Letting Children Experience Loss 23:09 - Creativity and Storytelling with Grandchildren 25:51 - Introducing Real-World Conflicts in Play 29:19 - Grandparents as Links to Family Legacy 34:53 - George Eliot: The Value of Unremembered Acts 36:18 - Living with Cancer and Embracing the Present 42:30 - Grandparenting from a Distance 45:27 - Encouragement to Focus on fun, connection, and Presence Rather Than Legacy Episode Companion: Mentioned In This Episode: Demographic research: Jennifer F. Cross, M.D.: The Child Mind Institute: Chicago’s Curtis Chang’s Nancy French & Curtis Chang’s Nancy French’s George Eliot’s (epubs) More about More From Nancy French: Nancy French’s Nancy French on Nancy French on Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Sandra McCracken on Navigating the Space Between: Reflections on Christmas Hope
12/25/2025
Sandra McCracken on Navigating the Space Between: Reflections on Christmas Hope
Can a Poetic Pause Help us Embrace the In-Between Moments of the Season? On this special Christmas Day episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken each explore the nativity, the “space between” Christ’s first coming and second coming, and how Christian faith holds grief and joy together in a world that often “does not mesh with Jesus.” Featuring Madeleine L’Engle’s poem “First Coming” and music from McCracken’s Christmas EP I Heard the Bells (including “The Space Between”), this episode invites listeners to slow down, notice the small things, and find God’s nearness in waiting and quiet wonder. (00:03:02) Christian Response to a Troubled World (00:04:22) Madeleine L’Engle’s "First Coming" (00:08:35) Sandra McCracken’s Christmas Reflections (00:12:14) What Is Blessing the Space Between? (00:12:47) Songwriting and the Sacred Space Between (00:15:10) From Christmas to New Year’s: Blessing the In-Between Times (00:17:12) Nativity, Slowness, and the Nearness of God (00:20:01) Curtis Chang’s Closing Reflections Enter the Christmas Day give away Sign up for the Mentioned In This Episode: Madeleine L'Engle’s Madeleine L'Engle’s Luci Shaw’s Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP Sandra McCracken’s More From Sandra McCracken: Sandra McCracken’s Sandra’s first Christmas album (2020) Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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What’s David French Thankful For? Finding Hope and Joy in Ordinary Things
12/18/2025
What’s David French Thankful For? Finding Hope and Joy in Ordinary Things
From C.S. Lewis to Luka Dončić: Celebrating Joy in Unexpected Places On this Christmas-season Good Faith episode, host Curtis Chang welcomes back “founding friend” David French to showcase how he can give thanks in all circumstances even amid a depressing news cycle. Through five surprising “gratitudes” (from Dune and Luka Dončić to family healing and C.S. Lewis), the conversation offers a timely guide to cultivating Christian joy, resilience, and hope in anxious times. French shares why his hope isn’t rooted in a “five-point plan,” but in the character of God and the “light and high beauty” that can break through dark moments—even illustrated by a powerful story of forgiveness after a Michigan church shooting. (00:02:22) - Living with Tension: Blessings and Challenges (00:05:11) - Practicing Cheerfulness and Gratitude (00:08:52) - #5: Anticipating Dune Part Three & the importance of joy and fun. (00:18:22) - #4: Luka Doncic & appreciating greatness (00:26:50) - Transcendence, and the Need for Beauty in dark times. (00:27:55) - #3: Michigan Mormons’ Response to Tragedy (00:29:22) - The Power of Redemptive Acts (00:33:35) - #2: Gratitude for his wife & granddaughter’s health after medical challenges. (00:40:32) - #1: The Enduring Comfort of C.S. Lewis (00:49:44) - The necessity of hope and joy, especially for young people. Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the today! Download World Relief’s: Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: Take our Climate Mentioned In This Episode: Trailer: Trailer: Trailer: Highlights: Read/Watch: Books Mentioned by C.S. Lewis More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Sandra McCracken on Christmas Songs That Hold Joy and Sorrow: I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day
12/16/2025
Sandra McCracken on Christmas Songs That Hold Joy and Sorrow: I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day
What Do Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and Johnny Cash Have in Common? Singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken joins Good Faith for a short bonus episode on the Christmas songs that can hold joy and sorrow at the same time. Sandra explores the story behind “I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day”—from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s grief to its enduring promise of peace in the midst of hardship. She also reflects on the influence of Johnny Cash’s version and shares what it was like recording the song with Cindy Morgan. A warm, reflective listen for anyone heading into the season with hope and heaviness. Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the today! Mentioned In This Episode: Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP Sandra McCracken’s single Johnny Cash's album Johnny Cash’s single Leonard Cohen’s More From Sandra McCracken: Sandra McCracken’s Sandra’s first Christmas album (2020) Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Is the Border Really in Crisis? Crime, Fentanyl & the Facts - with Jennie Murray
12/11/2025
Is the Border Really in Crisis? Crime, Fentanyl & the Facts - with Jennie Murray
Can We Welcome the Stranger and Uphold the Law? How should Christians think about immigration, the border crisis, and refugees—without getting trapped in partisan talking points? In this Good Faith podcast episode, host Curtis Chang sits down with Jennie Murray, president of the National Immigration Forum, to explore a faith-informed approach to U.S. immigration policy. They explore why the U.S. immigration system is so broken and confusing, the tension between compassion and the rule of law, how immigration affects jobs, labor shortages, and the economy, all while debunking myths about crime, fentanyl, and “open borders.” (02:34) - Christian first or American first? Identity and immigration (06:01) - Compassion vs rule of law? (10:36) - How the immigration system is failing (14:09) - What really drives migration (18:21) - Labor, talent, and the U.S. economy (22:12) - Who counts as “illegal” or “undocumented”? (31:27) - Law, grace, and the gospel (37:34) - Crime, fentanyl, and fear-based narratives (48:03) - What ordinary Christians can do for Personal and Group Study Download World Relief’s: Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the today! Take our Climate Mentioned In This Episode: TRAC: Refugee resettlement ceilings and numbers caps: Gallup Polling: Pew Research Research: Pew Research: Lifeway/World Relief Research Study: Pew Research: Bill Summary: CATO Institute: Referenced Scripture: (ESV) - The foreigner residing among you (ESV) - Treatment of the stranger International Comparison Stories: : Canada’s immigration targets to fill workforce gaps/support economic growth : Germany aims to make it easier for non-nationals to work there ): Australia targets skilled migrants to fill critical job vacancies ): "The UK government is responding to workforce shortages by expanding visa opportunities for foreign workers More From Jennie Murray and National Immigration Forum: More about Learn more about Engage with Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, and the Armor of God
12/04/2025
N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, and the Armor of God
Christianity Isn’t a Nation and The Church Isn’t a National Movement Host Curtis Chang sits down with N.T. Wright to explore the explosive themes of Ephesians, including what the Bible really says about the mission of the church—not as a lifeboat escaping to heaven, but a “small working model of new creation”—a multiethnic, multicultural community that stands against the powers and principalities of our age through truth, unity, and love. Wright discusses the church’s mission in a divided world, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They address modern challenges such as misunderstandings of spiritual warfare, the communal nature of the armor of God, why the “belt of truth” matters today, and how Ephesians calls the church to resist counterfeit visions of power. (06:12) - Has NT Wright changed his mind about the Biblical truths? (12:15) - What is Wright’s “small working model of new creation”? (16:15) - The new community of Jesus Christ (22:51) - The problem of Christian nationalism (28:16) - The Challenge of Christian Multiculturalism (29:39) - The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare (36:56) - Is the Armor of God a communal thing? (43:05) - The biblical view of men and women is not antiquated (49:19) - A final word of encouragement from Ephesians Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: N.T. Wright’s N.T. Wright’s forthcoming Lecture: (N.T. Wright lecture) What are the ? Learn more: Watch: (video) Read: Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: (ESV) - Male & female relationships and creation theology (ESV) - Revealing who Jesus is to the world (ESV) - Humankind’s purpose (ESV) - The full armor of God (ESV) -The guarantee of the resurrection (ESV) - Vision of new creation More From N.T. Wright: (Amazon) Follow Us: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
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Andy Crouch on True Rest vs. Leisure: How Sabbath Breaks the Idols of Work and Technology
11/27/2025
Andy Crouch on True Rest vs. Leisure: How Sabbath Breaks the Idols of Work and Technology
Can Sabbath Rest Be a Circuit Breaker for Idolatry? Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith podcast regular Andy Crouch explore how practicing true Sabbath rest can help Christians break free from burnout, technology overload, and the constant pressure to produce. Andy explains the biblical vision of Sabbath, the difference between rest and leisure, and why so many people feel enslaved to email, phones, and digital noise. They offer practical tools for burnout recovery, Sabbath rest practices, and Christian digital detox, helping listeners rediscover rhythms of rest, contemplation, and spiritual formation. If you're searching for guidance on how to practice Sabbath, how to disconnect from technology, or how to recover from burnout as a Christian, this conversation with Andy Crouch provides a hopeful path to real rest. (02:24) - The Value of Rest Modeled in Creation (13:04) - The Cycle of Rest, Contemplation, & Creation in Modern Work (21:31) - Is Ceasing Labor Different Than Resting From It? (28:49) - Breaking Free from the Labor Involved in Leisure (32:18) - True Rest Requires Spiritual Practices (37:44) - How Can We Rediscovering Sabbath Rest Together? Drawing from a previous conversation with Andy Crouch, this episode examines how Sabbath rest revitalizes the inner life. Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Abraham Joshua Heschel’s Andy Crouch’s David Foster Wallace’s Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: (ESV) - Genesis and the Creation Story (ESV) - The Sabbath commandment (ESV) - Observance of the Sabbath Day More From Andy Crouch: Interact with Andy’s Check out Andy’s work at Read Andy’s book: Read Andy’s book: Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Kathleen Norris: A Sister’s Reflection on Faith, Disability, and Love
11/20/2025
Kathleen Norris: A Sister’s Reflection on Faith, Disability, and Love
How Does Kathleen Norris Show Disability Shaping Love, Lament, and Christian Faith? Bestselling writer Kathleen Norris joins host Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister’s Reflections on Disability, Faith and Love. They share the story of Kathleen’s disabled sister, Rebecca, and how her journey through perinatal hypoxia, bipolar disorder, anger, and finally gratitude reshaped their family’s faith. This episode offers honest wisdom on caregiving, grief, and aging parents and siblings, plus ideas for making sense of a loved one’s disability through letters and reflection. Curtis and Kathleen also explore how churches can better include people with disabilities who are “hidden in plain sight,” and why love, lament, and telling the truth about our flaws are central to a life of faith. (01:49) - What did disability mean in the Norris family? (04:00) - Discovering Disability (08:52) - The Connection Between Love and Lament (16:24) - Lessons Learned Caring For a Dying Husband (20:09) - The Complicated Journey Caregiving and Dying (29:00) - Admiring a Father’s Determination (31:36) - Championing Disability Rights (37:27) - Tackling Disability Awareness in Community (41:56) - Are There Connections Between This Story and Norris’ Other Books? Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Kathleen Norris’ Listen to (Good Faith episode 145) A Brief History of Understanding the More From Kathleen Norris: Kathleen Norris’ Kathleen Norris’ Kathleen Norris’ Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis
11/13/2025
Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis
A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to “welcome the stranger”, explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief’s Churches of Welcome. (02:11) - What Is a Refugee? (08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement (14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees (23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants (29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes (43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene for Personal and Group Study Download World Relief’s: Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: (Lifeway Research) Learn about What is the Facts about Learn More about Learn more about Scripture Mentioned: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) - The Good Samaritan More From Myal Greene and World Relief: Learn more about Become a World Relief Join World Relief’s Give to (Organization collaborating with World Relief) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare’s The Tempest
11/06/2025
Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare’s The Tempest
Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero’s struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare’s “magic” and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica’s discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT. (02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic (05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions? (11:03) - The Change in Prospero (13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts (18:53) - The Temptation of AI (21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: William Shakespeare’s (entire play) Andy Crouch’s (ESV) - Jacob Wrestling with God or “the Angel” C.S. Lewis’s (pdf) The Tempest Act V, Scene 1: “” (ESV) - Jesus as the Word or “logos” (ESV) - the metaphor of milk and solid food More From Jessica Hooten Wilson: Explore Jessica’s books Read articles and Essay by Jessica Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity
10/30/2025
David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity
How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival? Good Faith “founding friend” David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today’s supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z’s shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape. (02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity? (06:36) - It’s Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival (09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like? (12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity (20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together (29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America (39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: David French’s article Barna Research: Tim Keller’s article (The Gospel Coalition) Tim Keller’s message Read (ESV) - Peter preaches from Joel and repentance breaks out Read (ESV) - Isaiah’s call and commission George Whitefield and the (Christian Union America) Kevin Brown’s article (Christianity Today) What is ? What is Differing Opinions: (PBS) Rodney Stark (PBS) Read (ESV) - Peace with God through faith Listen: Good Faith episode 30 Ryan Burge: More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Sara Billups Explores ‘Nervous Systems’ and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life
10/23/2025
Sara Billups Explores ‘Nervous Systems’ and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life
Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence? Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today’s chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture. (02:23) - Navigating Anxiety in Uncertain Times (04:35) - Understanding Anxiety Across Generations (18:58) - Navigating Anxiety With Holy Indifference (26:00) - Anxiety in Churches, Politics, and Systems (28:15) - Churches Cultivating Non-Anxious Presence (33:43) - Finding a Spiritual Home in Crisis (41:20) - Sara’s Message a Generation of Anxious Young Adults Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Sara Billups’ (Cleveland Clinic) Curt Thompson discusses (episode of Curt’s podcast) Ignatius’ St. Teresa of Lisieux’s The story behind the hymn Frederick Buechner describes (video) Frederick Buechner’s (ESV) Jesus prays in Gethsemane Edwin Friedman’s Edwin Friedman’s (Jack Shitima’s Non-Anxious Leader blog) Mark Sayers’s The ignatian concept of Thomas McKenzie’s Tim Keller’s (Series of audio messages) Christianity Today’s (podcast) 22 Explore Good Faith episode featuring More from Sara Billups: Sara Billups’ Sara Billups’ (substack) Sara Billups’ (with Morgan Page) Follow Us: Sign up:
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When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors
10/16/2025
When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors
What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids? In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis “Paco” Amador about the struggles of Chicago’s immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear. (03:15) - Immigration and Community in Chicago (05:49) - Impact of Immigration Raids on Community (12:54) - Immigration Rights Issues (15:35) - Community Support (17:38) - How Does the Bible Speak To the Immigrant’s Experience? (19:37) - Migrants and Persecution (27:00) - A Faith Revival in Immigrant Communities (34:00) - Immigration Reform and Order (39:10) - Migrants Fleeing Collapsing Dictatorships for Personal and Group Study Download World Relief’s: Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Images of ICE raids in (the month of October) (ESV) The Beatitudes (ESV) The Scattering of the Church (ESV) The Call of Abraham Justo L. Gonzalez’s Justo L. Gonzalez’s More from Paco Amador Paco Amador: Little Village: (substack article) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)
10/09/2025
David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)
How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism? Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America. (02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America (11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America (17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism (26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History (33:43) - America’s Story and a Universal “us”? (36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776 (44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism (48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others (55:45) - Security About the Truth of America Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry’s Thomas Kidd’s (article) (article & date) David French: (2/25/24) Derek Bell’s Matt Yglesias’s C.S. Lewis on C.S. Lewis on C.S. Lewis on More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Reflecting on the Beatitudes: Prayer for the Church, Our Nation, and Each Other
10/06/2025
Reflecting on the Beatitudes: Prayer for the Church, Our Nation, and Each Other
Join Curtis Chang, host of the Good Faith Podcast, along with co-leaders Chuck Mingo, Sarah Billups, Russell Moore, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Mark Turman, as they move listeners through a series of guided prayers based on the Beatitudes. This pastoral effort invites the audience to recalibrate their spiritual focus and pray for the church, our country, and one another. Beginning with “Blessed are the poor in spirit” and culminating in rejoicing and gladness, this time of reflection and prayer encourages all-comers to renew their hope, reclaim peace, and follow Christ faithfully in a divided world. (01:05) - Welcome from Curtis Chang (03:47) - Centering Silence (04:20) - Blessed Are the Poor In Spirit: Curtis Chang (09:50) - Blessed Are Those Who Mourn (13:39) - Blessed Are the Meek: Chuck Mingo (14:58) - Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst For Righteousness:Sara Billups (16:49) - Blessed Are the Merciful: Sara Billups (17:59) - Prayer For the Church Universal From the Book of Common Prayer: Sara Billups (19:45) - Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: Russell Moore (22:14) - Blessed Are the Peacemakers: Russell Moore (24:08) - Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted: Kaitlyn Schiess (27:35) - Prayers For the Needs of God’s Work: Kaitlyn Schiess (28:39) - Rejoice and Be Glad: Mark Turman (32:12) - Hope and Joy in Christ: Mark Turman Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Scriptures Referenced: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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A.J. Swoboda: A Teachable Spirit In Today’s Divided World
10/02/2025
A.J. Swoboda: A Teachable Spirit In Today’s Divided World
Can Our Enemies Teach Us Anything? A.J. Swoboda joins the Good Faith podcast to unpack how cultivating a teachable spirit and practicing true discipleship means learning from enemies, strangers, and neighbors in a divided world. He emphasizes how to recognize real experts amid alternate facts and subjective “truths,” and tells how the countercultural practice of learning from anyone—regardless of agreement—fosters humility, empathy, and connection, insights drawn from his book A Teachable Spirit. (03:11) - Cultivating a Teachable Spirit (09:38) - Reverse Prophecy and Calling Out Your Tribe (17:55) - Experts & Expertise (22:09) - Sola Scriptura vs. “Solo” Scriptura (23:27) - Jesus Would Be the Best At Anything (32:04) - Replacing Our Neighbors With Technology (45:03) - Learning From Enemies Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned In This Episode: A.J. Swoboda’s How John Calvin understood the Erving Goffman’s (pdf) More about Fuller Seminary’s Roger Kneebone: Understanding Erving Goffman’s Dallas Willard’s sermon: (video) Dallas Willard’s (article) (article) Scriptures Referenced: The Sermon on the Mount: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) More From A.J. Swoboda: A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta’s A.J. Swoboda’s A.J. Swoboda’s Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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Elizabeth Neumann on Violence Prevention, Safety, & True Security
09/25/2025
Elizabeth Neumann on Violence Prevention, Safety, & True Security
How Is Radicalization A Risk in Online Spaces? Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, former DHS counterterrorism leader, to explore the rise of political violence in our digital world. From Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the role of memes, online gaming, and extremist recruitment, they uncover how radicalization thrives—and where faith communities, government, and citizens can step in to push back against hate and defend freedom. (01:54) - Understanding and Preventing Political Violence (08:22) - The Broader Context of Rising Violence (12:03) - Addressing Root Causes of Mass Violence (21:29) - Online Gaming and Extremism Concerns (27:15) - Rating the Trump Administration’s Response to the Crisis (34:09) - Government Response to Political Violence (42:34) - Jesus Followers and the Threat of Violence Register for the Good Faith live prayer event Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Recommended Resource: An Independent article: Elizabeth Newman’s book From the U.N.: (pdf) Learn about: (the United States Attorney’s Office District of Columbia) Learn how More From Elizabeth Neumann: Check out Elizebeth Neumann’s Elizabeth Neumann’s Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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David French on Political Violence in America and Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
09/18/2025
David French on Political Violence in America and Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
What Does Charlie Kirk’s Murder Reveal About Extremism and Division? Host Curtis Chang sits down with Good Faith “founding friend” and New York Times writer David French to reflect on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and what it reveals about the rise of political violence in America. Together, they explore how formative experiences have shaped Baby Boomers and Gen Z differently, the role of influencers versus institutions, and the dangers of extremism across the political spectrum. With compassion for the personal tragedy at the center of this event, they also highlight the church’s role on the path toward healing and rebuilding trust in a deeply divided nation. Register for the Good Faith live prayer event Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Poll Results: (internal WSJ generational poll %s) (Politifact/PBS) (Reuters, 2023) Spencer Cox’s Utah Gov. Spencer Cox Pope Leo (video) David French on Charlie Kirk’s Murder and Political Violence: David French: David French: Roundtable discussion, including David French: David French’s More From David French: David French’s New York Times pieces Follow David French on Follow Us: Sign up: The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
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C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, and Emily Wilson on Women’s Spiritual Battles
09/11/2025
C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, and Emily Wilson on Women’s Spiritual Battles
Modern Challenges of Self-Worth and Lies Host Curtis Chang talks with author and women’s ministry leader Emily Wilson about faith, motherhood, and battling the lies of shame and self-hatred. Drawing from C.S. Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters and her new book Sincerely, Stoneheart, Emily explores how screens, productivity pressures, and cultural messages distort our identity—and how the truth of God’s love can set us free. (00:01) - Reimagining CS Lewis for Modern Times (04:54) - Women and Good vs. Evil (08:27) - Women and Men’s Unique Vulnerabilities to Evil (13:03) - Did C.S. Lewis Miss Something About Women? (14:53) - C.S. Lewis and Friendship (19:08) - Unveiling Truths About Motherhood and Screens (28:01) - The Lie of Productivity Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Emily Wilson’s Learn more about (C.S. Lewis Institute) The Background surrounding More about Lewis’s Listen to Good Faith with Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLea authors of Moms at the Well NIH’s (abstract) More from Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson’s Find Emily Wilson on Watch Emily Wilson on Find Emily Wilson on Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dr. Alison Cook Confronts Shame, Inner Critics, & Competing Emotions
09/04/2025
Dr. Alison Cook Confronts Shame, Inner Critics, & Competing Emotions
Why Is Your Inner Life So Complicated? Host Curtis Chang and therapist Dr. Alison Cook connect dive into conversation about the intersection of Christian faith, psychology, and emotional health. Together they explore how overcoming shame, naming emotions, and quieting one’s inner critic can lead to spiritual growth and deeper empathy. Drawing on the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, Dr. Cook provides tools to manage the competing voices within. (00:01) - Exploring Inner and Outer Complexity (03:45) - Compassionate Curiosity and Inner Complexity (17:16) - Unlocking Inner Complexity Through Exploration (22:28) - Navigating the Inner Soul Complexity (33:48) - Cultivating Inner Harmony for Leadership (37:45) - Journey of Inner Exploration Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional health and inner well being. Join Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Learn more about Learn more about Dr. Anna Lembke’s Read ESV (and related scriptures) Henry Nouwen: (video, 1994) Explaining (video) Explore the Read about More from Dr. Alison Cook: Explore Dr. Cook’s Listen to Dr. Cook’s podcast: Read Dr. Cook’s book Read Dr. Cook’s book Follow Us: Sign up:
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Daniel’s Campfire Story: Building Bridges in a Divided America
09/01/2025
Daniel’s Campfire Story: Building Bridges in a Divided America
We Can Find Common Ground Even in Washington, D.C. Good Faith’s series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, Daniel, a pastor in Reston, Virginia, reflects on 23 years of ministry near Washington D.C., where politics and faith are in constant conversation. Inspired to bring the community – inside and outside of his church – together through civic discourse, he championed an initiative to create spaces for meal sharing and meaningful dialogue, creating curiosity and seeking unity across political lines. Daniel’s story shows how one pastor can change the way we do church to cultivate reconciliation, hope, and community in the most polarized of towns. Send your Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org
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The Epstein Files, Conspiracy Theories, and the Church with Emily Belz & Pete Wehner
08/28/2025
The Epstein Files, Conspiracy Theories, and the Church with Emily Belz & Pete Wehner
From Jeffrey Epstein to QAnon, Why Do Conspiracies Thrive in Churches? The Atlantic’s Pete Wehner, Christianity Today’s Emily Belz, and host Curtis Chang dive into QAnon, conspiracy theories, and the MAGA movement’s influence on American politics, culture, and the church. From Donald Trump’s messianic image to the shadows of Jeffrey Epstein, they reveal why conspiracies thrive in times of distrust—and how faith communities can fight back with truth and resilience. (01:58) - Understanding the QAnon Conspiracy Movement (04:10) - The Impact of QAnon Beliefs (10:55) - The Role of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death (17:13) - Christian Vulnerability to Conspiracy Theories (25:13) - The History of Christianity and Conspiracies (30:14) - The Grip of Trump on MAGA (40:36) - Challenges Facing Church Leadership Today Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Mentioned in this episode: Emily Belz: Pete Wehner: Wired: FOX News: (March 3) Politico: New York Times: Life Way Research: American Enterprise Institute: Nicholas Carr's More about More about More from Emily Belz & Pete Wehner: Emily Belz’s article at Pete Wehner’s articles at Follow Us: Sign up:
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John Kasich on Suffering, Truth, and the Power of Local Faith Communities
08/21/2025
John Kasich on Suffering, Truth, and the Power of Local Faith Communities
Faithful Actions and a Blueprint for Societal Healing Former Ohio Governor John Kasich joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to share how character, faith, and even suffering shape real leadership in a divided America. Drawing from the Governor’s new book Heaven Help Us, he and Curtis unpack why objective truth matters more than ever, how faith communities and neighborhoods can spark real change, and why grassroots action beats toxic politics every time. The conversation explores the power of authentic relationships and faith-driven hope to help fix what’s broken in our neighborhoods and our country. (00:01) - Finding Faith Amid Suffering and Service (08:31) - Character, Faith, and Political Analysis (19:20) - Community Engagement and Faith-Based Action (32:51) - Inspiring Faith Communities and Hope Send written questions or voice memos for “Ask Curtis” episodes to: Send Campfire Stories to: Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Governor Kasich’s book Ernie Johnson’s (starting at 4:05) Different versions of the scripture about Read about Audio Archives featuring A theological unpacking of Books by Tim Keller’s Gospel in Life The history of the Learn more about More from Governor John Kasich: Governor Kasich’s Governor Kasich’s book Governor Kasich’s book Follow Us: Sign up:
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Dr. Curt Thompson: Is God Still Good When the Pain Doesn’t Go Away?
08/14/2025
Dr. Curt Thompson: Is God Still Good When the Pain Doesn’t Go Away?
What if suffering isn’t the enemy—but the doorway to beauty, connection, and hope? Psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins host Curtis Chang for a raw and redemptive conversation on how pain, anxiety, and fear of abandonment shape our lives and our faith. Grounded in both Scripture and neuroscience, this episode challenges the myths we carry about control and invites us into deeper attachment with God and others. (00:01) - Exploring Suffering and Transformation Send Campfire Stories to: Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Thompson's Dr. Thompson's C.S. Lewis’s C.S. Lewis’s Scripture mentioned in this episode: Read (ESV) - Jesus’ question to James and John Read (ESV) - God tells the man He will surely die Read (ESV) - The narrative of creation and fall, as the origins of suffering Read (ESV) - Jesus is God’s glory Read (ESV) - The Psalm quoted by Jesus in the Gethsemane More from Dr. Curt Thompson: Dr. Thompson’s Dr. Thompson’s Dr. Thompson’s Follow Us: Sign up:
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Gaza, the U.S., and Political Divides with Nathan Stock
08/07/2025
Gaza, the U.S., and Political Divides with Nathan Stock
Finding Common Ground in a Divided World What can strife in Israel and Palestine teach us about America’s own political polarization? Host Curtis Chang sits down with conflict resolution expert Nathan Stock of the Carter Center to explore some of the hard truths from Middle East—and the surprising parallels here at home. From media-fueled division to the hope for bipartisan breakthroughs, Curtis and Nathan unpack how deep-rooted conflict forms—and offer pathways to bring healing and hope. (00:01) - Navigating Conflict in the Middle East (14:05) - Lessons from Northern Ireland and South Africa (16:42) - Building Hope for Conflict Resolution (25:18) - Different Brain Types and Polarization (26:30) - Bridging Political Divides to Further U.S. Unity (39:27) - Building Community Through Shared Stories Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Summary: (U.S. Dept. of State) Overview: (U.S. Congress) An Explanation of (The Red Cross) An Explanation of (Associated Press) Remembering (U.S. Office of the Historian) Abstract: (Science Advances) John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith, & John R. Alford’s book NPR Poll: The Carter Center’s Conflict Work: Nathan Stock’s article: The Carter Center’s The Carter Center’s The Carter Center’s More In Common Studies: Follow Us: Sign up:
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Redefining Neighbor and the Fight Against Poverty with Gisele Garraway
07/31/2025
Redefining Neighbor and the Fight Against Poverty with Gisele Garraway
Empathy and Empowerment in Economic Challenges What if economic justice isn’t about charity—but solidarity and investment? Harvard MBA Giselle Garraway shares how she left corporate America to found ThriveFunds, a platform that empowers working poor families with dignity-centered investments in their everyday lives. From a street sweeper chasing dreams of restoring a broken family to a working mom caring for both her husband and aging parents, Curtis and Gisele uncover how small, targeted support and investments can transform lives—and shift hearts across economic lines. They explore systemic setbacks and challenge some of the myths of meritocracy while asking: what does it truly mean to love your neighbor today? (00:01) - Introduction (02:48) - Gisele Garraway’s Story and Work (12:42) - Investing in Working Families (19:55) - Building Bridges Across Economic Divides (36:15) - Systemic Aspects of Government Benefits and Poverty (47:35) - Embodying Human Solidarity in Community (56:11) - Credits Donate to Resources mentioned in this episode: Matthew Desmond’s Matthew Desmond’s Gallup Study: USA Today: The United Way’s research on Richard Rothstein’s Tom Holland’s Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr’s Scripture Passages About Caring for the Poor: (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) (ESV) More about ThriveFunds: Learn More about Explore Be Encouraged by Bio: Follow Us: Sign up:
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