Career Conversations
On Career Conversations, NACUBO's Christine Simone sits down with higher education professionals to discuss their personal experiences, including successes and challenges of all kinds. They'll offer career advice and insights as well as nuggets of wisdom for business professionals new to higher education.
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Building Strategic Bridges: Derrick Sawyer
05/09/2025
Building Strategic Bridges: Derrick Sawyer
Derrick Sawyer's 20-year journey in higher education business and finance traces back to an entrepreneurial start at Delaware State University, where he managed a student-run food business and later the campus newspaper's finances. Currently serving as associate vice president of budgets, business services and risk management at Community College of Philadelphia, his path led through key roles at Temple University and Drexel University before landing in his current position. Sawyer offers unique insights from his experience across diverse institution types, from an HBCU to major research universities and now a community college. His leadership philosophy has evolved from a purely transactional approach to one centered on servant leadership and emotional intelligence. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the importance of calculated risk-taking, continuous learning through professional associations, and the power of strong mentorship relationships. Most compelling is Sawyer's perspective on higher education leadership: success isn't just about strategy and performance metrics, but about building meaningful connections across all levels of an institution. His commitment to innovation while maintaining student success at the forefront has shaped his approach to fiscal management and operational excellence. The episode offers valuable insights for professionals at any stage of their higher education career, particularly those interested in business operations, finance, and institutional leadership. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Building Financial Excellence: Meyroodjy Delva
04/25/2025
Building Financial Excellence: Meyroodjy Delva
As senior director of technical accounting and reporting at Howard University in Washington, DC, Meyroodjy Delva discovered his passion for accounting in high school through a business computer class. Now leading financial operations at his alma mater, Delva shares his journey from Big Four accounting to higher education leadership. In this episode, Delva discusses his transition from public accounting at KPMG to higher education during COVID-19, and how he built high-performing financial teams at Howard. He shares insights on navigating major institutional challenges including ERP implementation and cybersecurity incidents, while developing his leadership philosophy across different organizational cultures. Delva also reflects on creating a lasting legacy of financial excellence at Howard University. "What I was looking for is really problem solvers, like really smart people that don't run away from complex problems," says Delva, highlighting his approach to team building. His career insights emphasize embracing challenging opportunities despite setbacks, building strategic networks, adapting leadership style to institutional culture, handling professional feedback constructively, and maintaining focus on continuous process improvement. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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The Power of Financial Data: Kate Smith
04/11/2025
The Power of Financial Data: Kate Smith
Kate Smith, controller at Maryville University in St. Louis, Missouri, brings a wealth of experience in transforming higher education finance through innovative approaches to data and modeling. In this episode, Smith shares her journey from public accounting to higher education, including her work with nonprofits, an 8-year stint at higher ed marketing firm mStoner, and her role as controller at Logan University before joining Maryville's team of 10,000 students. Smith emphasizes the critical shift happening in higher education finance, moving from traditional historical reporting to forward-thinking financial planning and analysis (FP&A). She discusses how modern financial leaders must focus on predictive modeling and future scenarios to support institutional decision-making effectively. Drawing from her experience implementing financial tools at both small and large institutions, Smith provides practical insights on modernizing financial operations while working within existing constraints. The conversation explores the vital role of professional networks in higher education, with Smith's own career trajectory serving as a testament to the power of relationship building. She shares her approach to team development, seeking out curious minds who question processes and aren't afraid to take calculated risks. Smith also discusses how finance leaders can support institutional growth while maintaining agility in their operations. Key Takeaways: Financial leaders must shift focus from historical reporting to predictive analysis Technology modernization can be approached incrementally based on institutional needs Professional networking creates unexpected opportunities throughout your career Successful finance teams balance risk-taking with mission-driven decision making The episode offers valuable insights for both emerging and established higher education finance professionals, highlighting the evolution of the field and the importance of embracing change while maintaining strong financial fundamentals.
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Genuine, Collective, Imperfect Leadership: Isaiah Behnke
03/28/2025
Genuine, Collective, Imperfect Leadership: Isaiah Behnke
In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Isaiah Behnke, director of student finance at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, VA. Isaiah shares his unique career journey, which he describes as an "improvised jazz session" rather than a scripted symphony, with twists and turns that led him to his current role at UVA. He discusses a pivotal moment of being laid off early in his career, which taught him the importance of embracing discomfort and vulnerability. Isaiah also explains his leadership philosophy based on three core pillars: imperfection, collective effort, and genuine connection. To stay curious and innovative, Isaiah engages with professional organizations like NACUBO and taps into on-campus resources. Rather than focusing on leaving a legacy, Isaiah aims to make a meaningful impact in the present by creating a culture where people feel valued, heard, and supported. He draws inspiration from the ancient Greek concepts of "eunoia" (beautiful thinking and goodwill) and "eudaimonia" (flourishing through virtue or purpose) to guide his approach to leadership and problem-solving. Isaiah's advice for higher education professionals includes embracing imperfection, assuming the best in others, bringing humility and humor to your work, focusing on people rather than just processes and systems, and allowing discomfort and uncertainty to stretch and grow you rather than derail you. Tune in to hear Isaiah Behnke's full story and gain valuable insights on genuine, collective, and imperfect leadership in higher education. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Instincts, Improvement, Inspiration: Adrienne Frank
03/14/2025
Instincts, Improvement, Inspiration: Adrienne Frank
In this insightful Career Conversations episode, host Christine Simone sits down with Adrienne Frank, director of business and fiscal administration at Auburn University's Harbert College of Business in Auburn, Alabama. Adrienne shares her unique journey from the corporate world to higher education, offering valuable advice for those seeking career growth and fulfillment. Key Takeaways: Embrace change and new opportunities to find your passion Collaborate and build strong relationships with colleagues and stakeholders Foster a spirit of continuous process improvement Promote financial awareness and fiscal responsibility at all levels Never stop learning and growing professionally Adrienne's journey from the corporate world to higher education demonstrates the importance of embracing change and being open to new opportunities. Her experiences highlight the value of collaborating and building strong relationships with colleagues and stakeholders to achieve common goals. Throughout the conversation, Adrienne emphasizes the significance of fostering a spirit of continuous process improvement and promoting financial awareness and fiscal responsibility at all levels of an organization. She encourages listeners to trust their instincts and never stop learning and growing professionally. Adrienne's passion for her work and her commitment to making a positive impact in higher education shine through in this engaging conversation. Her insights and advice serve as valuable lessons for anyone looking to advance their career and make a difference in their organization. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Beyond the Numbers: Understanding Today's Chief Business Officers
02/28/2025
Beyond the Numbers: Understanding Today's Chief Business Officers
This conversation – a crossover episode between our two other podcasts CBO Speaks and NACUBO in Brief – is important enough that we wanted to release it on this feed as well. Enjoy! The fifth edition of the National Profile of Higher Education Chief Business Officers, released last year, offers crucial insights into the career paths, responsibilities, and aspirations of CBOs across the country. In this special crossover episode between CBO Speaks and NACUBO in Brief, CBO Speaks’ host Donna Schiele and NACUBO's Bryan Dickson explore the Profile's findings with Nicole Long, chief financial officer and vice president of finance and administration at Agnes Scott College in Decatur, Georgia, and Peter Elliott, vice president for administrative services at South Florida State College in Avon Park, Florida. The Profile examines key demographic trends in higher education leadership, revealing significant progress in diversity while highlighting areas still needing improvement. Long and Elliott provide valuable context around the study's findings on career pathways, succession planning, and evolving skill requirements. Their discussion emphasizes how the CBO role continues to expand beyond traditional financial oversight, with increasing focus on data analytics, new business models, and strategic planning - areas that require intentional development of future leaders. Join us for an insightful discussion about: Key findings from the 2024 CBO Profile, including demographic shifts and emerging trends Essential skills for modern CBOs, including strategic planning and change management The importance of succession planning and developing future leaders How the role of CBO continues to evolve and expand beyond traditional financial responsibilities Strategies for attracting diverse talent to CBO positions The 2024 National Profile of Higher Education Chief Business Officers provides crucial insights into the changing nature of the profession, revealing how the role continues to expand beyond traditional financial oversight to encompass strategic planning, data analytics, and comprehensive institutional leadership. This discussion brings these findings to life through the experiences of current CBOs, offering valuable perspective for institutions and leaders working to develop the next generation of higher education business officers. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Leading With a Sense of Service: Bobby Srivastava
02/14/2025
Leading With a Sense of Service: Bobby Srivastava
In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Bobby Srivastava, chief administrative officer and senior fiscal officer at The Ohio State University College of Engineering in Columbus, Ohio. With a background in K-12 education and over a decade of experience in higher ed, Bobby shares his unique insights on navigating the evolving landscape of university finance and offers valuable advice for those looking to grow their careers in this dynamic field. Key points and themes: Embracing challenges and opportunities for growth Adapting to the unique language and structure of higher education finance Navigating the evolving landscape of higher ed, including remote work and changing student interests Implementing budget discipline and transparency to achieve strategic goals Building relationships and trust through open communication and feedback Developing leadership skills through continuous learning, networking, and leaning on team expertise Demonstrating value and problem-solving abilities to stand out in career progression Bobby emphasizes the importance of staying calm, being analytical, and adaptable leadership in the higher education environment. He encourages aspiring leaders to seek mentors, actively listen, and find ways to solve problems for others to distinguish themselves in their careers. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Purposeful Leadership: Robbie Campbell Lissade
01/31/2025
Purposeful Leadership: Robbie Campbell Lissade
In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Robbie Campbell Lissade, the director of budget and finance at Rutgers University-Newark in Newark, New Jersey. Campbell Lissade shares her inspiring journey from corporate accounting to higher education, discussing the challenges she faced and the mentors who helped shape her leadership philosophy. Key Takeaways: Finding purpose in higher education Leadership lessons from NACUBO's Emerging Leadership Program Effective communication across campus ecosystems Authentic leadership and the power of mentorship Throughout the conversation, Campbell Lissade emphasizes the importance of clear communication across different campus ecosystems, ensuring that financial language is consistent and understandable to all stakeholders. She highlights the value of data-driven tools like the funding matrix and data dictionary in making informed decisions and aligning resources with strategic priorities. Campbell Lissade's leadership philosophy centers on authenticity, embracing mistakes, and continually learning from others. She credits strong female mentors for playing a crucial role in her career growth, providing guidance, support, and opportunities to step outside her comfort zone. Listeners will appreciate Campbell Lissade's reminder to prioritize self-care, take breaks, and have fun while staying true to their values and the values of their institution. Her passion for her work and commitment to student success shine through, making this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking inspiration and guidance in their higher education career. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Student-Centric Leadership: Kelly Broughton
01/17/2025
Student-Centric Leadership: Kelly Broughton
In this episode, Christine Simone chats with Kelly Broughton, director of operational purchasing and travel at Ohio University's Business Service Center in Athens, Ohio. Broughton shares her unique career journey transitioning from library sciences to higher ed finance and administration. Broughton discusses how transferable skills such as customer service, process improvement, and research abilities were key to her successful transition. Her PhD in higher education provided a holistic understanding of the industry, which she applies daily. Broughton also shares insights from her dissertation on students' sense of belonging in study spaces and its relevance to space planning. Broughton’s leadership philosophy centers on mutual respect, assuming positive intent, and focusing on advancing the university's mission. Her advice for career transitions is to examine your motivations and make sure you're moving toward a desired opportunity. Key Takeaways: Leverage transferable skills when changing fields Understand student perspectives for effective planning Connect your work to educating students for meaning & motivation In this insightful conversation, Broughton shares valuable advice for anyone considering a career transition within higher education or aiming to make a positive impact in an administrative role. Listen to the full episode to learn more about Broughton’s leadership philosophy, vision for leaving a meaningful legacy, and experiences successfully navigating a major career shift. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Ethics Above Everything: Shea Bryant
01/03/2025
Ethics Above Everything: Shea Bryant
Shea Bryant, manager of financial reporting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, joins host Christine Simone on NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast. Bryant shares insights from his career journey, transitioning from external auditor to higher ed business officer, and discusses the importance of staying connected with GASB expectations and developing crucial skills for professional growth. Key Takeaways: Strong ties to MSU drove Bryant's career decisions NACUBO plays a vital role in translating GASB standards for higher ed Developing public speaking skills and staying current on accounting standards unlock opportunities Leading with trust fosters team creativity and success Advice: Give your all each day and ask, "Did I try as hard as I could?" Bryant's career path, shaped by his connection to MSU, required navigating the transition from external auditor to internal staff. He emphasizes the importance of staying current with GASB expectations, highlighting NACUBO's role in translating these standards for higher ed. Developing public speaking skills and maintaining up-to-date knowledge of accounting standards have been essential for his professional growth. As a leader, Bryant fosters his team's success by trusting and allowing them independence, aiming to continue MSU's legacy of ethics, transparency, and hard work. Throughout the conversation, Bryant's passion for his work and dedication to personal and professional growth shine through. His advice to give one's all each day and maintain perspective in the face of challenges serves as an inspiration for professionals in any field. Bryant's insights offer valuable guidance for those navigating transitions, seeking to develop crucial skills, and striving to lead with trust and integrity in the world of higher education finance. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Leading with Authenticity: Kelvin Davis
12/13/2024
Leading with Authenticity: Kelvin Davis
In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Kelvin Davis, associate vice president of finance and administration at Delta State University in Cleveland, Mississippi. Davis, a recent recipient of NACUBO's prestigious Rising Star Award, shares his unique journey in higher education and the lessons he's learned along the way. Key Takeaways: Embracing change: Davis started his career in student affairs but transitioned to finance after discovering a passion for accounting. Leading by example: As a leader, Davis believes in understanding the importance of each team member's role and being willing to roll up his sleeves alongside them. Mentorship matters: Davis attributes much of his success to the guidance and support of mentors throughout his career. Being "unequivocally you": Davis emphasizes the importance of staying true to oneself while adapting to professional environments. Davis's heartfelt story is one of resilience, growth, and the power of mentorship. He shares how his team at Delta State University overcame audit challenges and improved financial reporting, earning recognition from the university system. Davis also discusses the significance of his alma mater and the unique culture of the Mississippi Delta region. Throughout the conversation, Davis underscores the value of seizing opportunities, building genuine connections, and being "unequivocally who you are." His advice to listeners is to strive to be a better version of themselves each day and to remain authentic in their careers. Tune in to this inspiring episode of Career Conversations to learn more about Davis' remarkable journey and the wisdom he's gained along the way. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Leading Through Change: Amanda Srichareon
11/22/2024
Leading Through Change: Amanda Srichareon
Amanda Srichareon of Indiana University (Bloomington, IN) shares her compelling 16-year journey from sponsor billing representative to university bursar. Her story demonstrates how recognizing opportunities, embracing mentorship, and developing an authentic leadership style can shape a successful career in higher education. Throughout the conversation, Srichareon reflects on the challenges of becoming a young leader and the vital shift from seeking to be liked to earning genuine respect. She credits strong female mentors, including Gabrielle Bovinzi and Brittany Hubbard, for shaping her professional development and encouraging her pursuit of an MBA. Key Takeaways: Career progression from entry-level to leadership through recognizing opportunities Value of mentorship from experienced leaders in higher education Evolution from focusing on being liked to earning respect as a young leader Importance of networking within higher education, particularly with peer institutions Leadership philosophy centered on honesty, open communication, and collaboration Emphasis on embracing change and continuous process improvement Srichareon's leadership philosophy emphasizes the importance of building strong teams through collaboration and honest communication. Her advice to aspiring leaders centers on becoming a change agent: "Find a way to embrace change... I think really finding a way to embrace change and always changing and being a change agent is the best advice I could give to anybody." She advocates for this approach even when resources are limited, highlighting the significance of maintaining professional networks across institutions. Her ultimate vision of success? Building such a strong team that they continue to thrive long after her departure – a testament to her focus on developing others and creating sustainable leadership practices in higher education. Links: Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Transforming Higher Ed: Craig Alexander
11/08/2024
Transforming Higher Ed: Craig Alexander
Want to drive transformation and build stronger teams in higher ed? Tune in for insights from Craig Alexander, continuous improvement officer at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, Kansas. In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone chats with Craig about his unique journey from a 16-year career at Sprint to higher education, key leadership insights, and strategies for driving innovation on campus. Craig shares surprising parallels he's noticed between challenges faced in the corporate world and higher ed, such as declining customers/students and the need to differentiate and cut costs. He emphasizes the importance of effective change management, which involves transparently sharing the "why" behind decisions, proactively inviting feedback, and continuously fine-tuning processes. Key Takeaways: Building authentic relationships happens through one-on-one meetings and meaningful phone calls, not just email Strong leaders own up to missteps, focus on making things easier, and deeply care about doing the right thing When facing problems, ask "Where have I missed it?" and use "I" statements to reduce conflict Studying psychology helps leaders better understand and work with people Throughout the conversation, Craig underscores his commitment to leaving a legacy of always striving to do the right thing, addressing problems head-on, and engaging in candid conversations. He advises leaders to start by looking inward when challenges arise and to prioritize understanding the people they work with. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Persistence Pays Off: Don Marrow
10/25/2024
Persistence Pays Off: Don Marrow
In this insightful episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone chats with Don Marrow, director of budget and resource planning at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Don shares his unique 17-year journey at the university, transitioning from a temporary civil service employee to a leadership role in business and finance. Key Takeaways: Embracing lifelong learning: Don emphasizes the importance of continuous growth and education to stay innovative in higher education finance. Building professional relationships: Networking and seeking guidance from those in desired roles can lead to valuable connections and opportunities. Evolving leadership philosophy: As Don's career progressed, his focus shifted from personal growth to supporting and developing his team members as individuals. Impactful mentorship: Don highlights two influential mentors who demonstrated the value of emotional intelligence and strategic leadership in building strong teams. Leaving a legacy: Rather than focusing on specific projects, Don hopes his legacy will be the positive impact he's had on the lives and careers of others. Don's advice for listeners: Stay persistent, trust in the timing of your journey, and remain true to yourself as you work towards your goals. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Leading with Compassion: Bob Miller
10/11/2024
Leading with Compassion: Bob Miller
In this insightful episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Bob Miller, director of fiscal administration at the University of Texas at San Antonio. With over 22 years of experience at UTSA, Bob shares his unique journey from campus recreation to strategic enrollment and offers valuable advice for aspiring leaders in higher education. Key Takeaways: Embrace change and explore new opportunities for personal and professional growth Seek mentorship and learn from leaders across various departments Lead with care, compassion, and a focus on making a positive impact on students and the institution Don't be afraid to try new things, ask questions, and learn from both successes and failures Develop your own leadership style while staying true to yourself Bob's career trajectory showcases the importance of adaptability and openness to new challenges. He emphasizes the value of deliberate and well-planned strategies in driving institutional growth, as seen in UTSA's remarkable progress from 18,000 to nearly 35,000 students during his tenure. As an inaugural cohort member of the NACUBO Emerging Leaders Program, Bob highlights the profound impact of this developmental opportunity on his professional growth and network. He encourages listeners to get involved, seek mentorship, and actively pursue opportunities to learn and grow. Throughout the conversation, Bob stresses the significance of leading with care, compassion, and a focus on making a positive impact. He believes in the power of learning from both great and challenging supervisors and using those experiences to shape one's own leadership style. This episode offers valuable insights and inspiration for anyone looking to grow and make a difference in the world of higher education. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Embracing Strengths, Driving Change: Ben Lennander
09/27/2024
Embracing Strengths, Driving Change: Ben Lennander
In this episode, host Christine Simone chats with Ben Lennander, assistant vice chancellor of human resources at the University of Nebraska, Lincoln. Ben shares his unique career journey, leadership philosophy, and insights on building strong professional relationships in higher education. Key Points and Themes: Applying an entrepreneurial mindset to drive efficiencies in higher ed The impact of supportive mentorship early in one's career Connecting with the mission of higher education and serving others Transforming a struggling team through positive leadership Utilizing strengths-based leadership to foster job satisfaction and efficiency Building trust and relationships across the organization Investing in continuous professional development and growth Ben Lennander's unique background and people-centered leadership philosophy have contributed to his success in navigating the complex landscape of higher education. His insights serve as valuable inspiration for professionals seeking to make a positive impact on their institutions and the lives of those they serve. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Genuine Connections, Lasting Legacy: Alyson Baxter
09/13/2024
Genuine Connections, Lasting Legacy: Alyson Baxter
In this episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations, host Christine Simone chats with Alyson Baxter, assistant vice president, finance and operations, shared administrative services at the University of Alabama. Alyson shares her inspiring 17-year journey at the university, from graduate assistant to AVP, and the lessons she's learned along the way. Key Takeaways: Seize opportunities for growth and take on new challenges, even if they seem daunting at first. Find a mentor who values your strengths, provides a safe environment to learn, and supports your development. As a leader, focus on creating a positive work environment where your team feels heard, valued, and empowered to succeed. Networking is about making genuine connections and being able to help others by "connecting the dots". Leadership and talent will find a way to emerge, even if your career path is non-traditional. It's okay if your leadership style is different from your mentor's—stay true to yourself. Have patience with yourself as you grow as a leader and learn from mistakes. Aim to leave a legacy of kindness, fairness, and giving others opportunities to thrive. Throughout her career, Alyson has embraced excitement about new projects, sought out mentors, and put herself out there through leadership programs. Her story highlights the importance of continuous learning, human-centric leadership, and meaningful relationships. Alyson's authentic advice is sure to resonate with anyone navigating their own leadership journey in higher ed. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Your Voice Matters: Adrian Petway
05/31/2024
Your Voice Matters: Adrian Petway
In this enlightening episode of NACUBO's Career Conversations podcast, host Christine Simone sits down with Adrian Petway, associate vice president for budget and finance at Virginia State University in Petersburg, Virginia. Petway shares her passion for higher education and her journey from an accounts receivable specialist to her current leadership role. Key themes and takeaways: Her love for the mission of higher education and being a lifelong learner The importance of supporting the core mission of instruction, research, and public service as a finance professional in higher ed Teaching economics and incorporating real-life projects to prepare students for the future The impact of the enrollment cliff on all universities and the need for effective enrollment and retention strategies Leveraging resources like NACUBO's professional development opportunities and the value of building a strong network Finding work-life balance and prioritizing mental and physical well-being, especially in light of the COVID-19 pandemic The power of mentorship and the importance of speaking up and realizing that your voice matters Petway's insights serve as a valuable reminder that passion, continuous learning, and a strong support system are key to a successful and fulfilling career in higher education administration. Thank you for tuning in to Career Conversations. NACUBO will be back with season two of this show in September. Links Article: Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Finding Your Path: Greg Argueta
04/19/2024
Finding Your Path: Greg Argueta
Greg Argueta, associate vice president for accounting and financial reporting at the University of Texas at Dallas, reflects on his accidental career journey from finance to higher education leadership. Despite originally thinking his move was temporary, the mission of higher education resonated with him over time. He shares how embracing new opportunities, like leading an ERP implementation, allowed him to grow into more responsibilities. Greg also discusses adjusting to higher education's complexity compared to his previous finance work. Two crucial lessons Greg learned were the importance of effective communication and preserving trust. He advises actively seeking opportunities rather than waiting passively for career growth. Discover Greg's perspective on developing resilience and leadership philosophy through both successes and mistakes. Higher education professionals and those exploring new career paths will appreciate his insight on an evolving career path in a dynamic field. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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People Over Process: Orkun Toros
04/05/2024
People Over Process: Orkun Toros
Orkun Toros, associate vice president and chief business officer at The University of Texas at Dallas, shares valuable perspectives from his 18-year career in higher education finance. Starting as a graduate assistant, Toros worked his way up to executive leadership roles across multiple Texas institutions. He offers unique insights on improving processes, leading teams, and adopting new technologies like AI. Key Points: Passionate about the mission of keeping resources in the classroom Values authentic, trusting relationships with teams Encourages creating environments where people can thrive Emphasizes being curious and fearless in exploring initiatives Cautions not to focus overly on results over people Optimistic about AI's potential to enhance finance processes Stresses the importance of celebrating successes Toros has built an impressive higher ed finance career by embracing new initiatives and valuing people. His story highlights the power of curiosity, collaboration, and maintaining perspective on what matters most. Toros encourages leaders to stay grounded in mission and purpose. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Maintaining a Human Touch: Amanda Malone
03/22/2024
Maintaining a Human Touch: Amanda Malone
Amanda Malone, director of budget and HR at Auburn University, shares insightful perspectives from her long career in higher education administration and accounting. With experience spanning over 15 years at Auburn, Amanda provides unique insight on leading change initiatives, supporting faculty, and maintaining work-life balance. Key Points: Believes in collaborating with stakeholders during change Values gathering information by observing leaders Says be fully present and keep a "human touch" Encourages embracing new opportunities regularly Advises clearly setting expectations you can meet Passionate about supporting faculty research Views higher ed through an accounting lens Committed to continual formal and informal learning Amanda's career demonstrates an admirable commitment to continual learning while compassionately leading change. Her story highlights the importance of collaboration, presence, balance, and maintaining a "human touch" in higher education leadership. Amanda encourages staying grounded personally and professionally while also embracing new opportunities. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Ask, Learn, Grow: Charmel Maynard
03/08/2024
Ask, Learn, Grow: Charmel Maynard
Charmel Maynard, 2023 recipient of NACUBO’s Rodney H. Adams Endowment Award, took a leap of faith to leave banking behind and follow a mentor into university investments. In this episode, Charmel shares how he transitioned to higher education and offers advice on leadership, learning, and team building. Key Points: Believes in taking smart career risks and not fearing failure Leads with a passion for accountability and ownership Values open collaboration with university investment peers Emphasizes the importance of asking questions Manages by empowering team members' passions Creates diverse teams to encourage new perspectives Honored for excellence in endowment management Charmel Maynard has built an impressive career as a university investment leader at an institution that continues to reach key milestones. His story demonstrates the power of taking risks, embracing mentors, and always learning. Charmel encourages listeners to pursue their passions while building strong teams. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Follow Your Curiosity: Anne Santos
02/23/2024
Follow Your Curiosity: Anne Santos
Anne Santos, assistant dean for finance and administration at Rice University's Glasscock School of Continuing Studies, took an unconventional path to her role. With a background in hospitality and small business, Anne shares how she transitioned industries and offers advice on pursuing your passions. Key Points: Transitioned from hospitality/small business to higher ed Admires the role of continuing education communities Sees similarities in serving others Diverse campus was a pleasant surprise Learned about university endowments Encourages trying higher ed to make an impact Shares rewards of student success stories Values networking and informational interviews Anne Santos has built a fulfilling career in higher education administration. Her story demonstrates the power of curiosity and openness to new paths. Anne encourages listeners to pursue their passions and never be the first one to tell themselves ‘no’. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Be Comfortable Being Uncomfortable: Rick Wernoski
02/09/2024
Be Comfortable Being Uncomfortable: Rick Wernoski
NACUBO’s Christine Simone interviews Rick Wernoski, the associate vice chancellor for operational excellence at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Key Points: 30+ years in higher ed, started as budget analyst and moved up to leadership Passionate about transforming students' lives through academics and research Recent success creating a K-2 school that boosted literacy and math scores Learned to challenge processes, not just do things because "that's how it was always done" Great mentors pushed new ideas, best practices, and supported failures Pays it forward mentoring others with honesty, integrity, and trust Says "yes" to new opportunities like teaching and committees Leadership lesson –ensure all voices are at the table and listen first Overall, Rick emphasizes being open to new experiences outside your comfort zone for growth. His career shows the rewards of starting small in higher ed administration and working your way up over decades. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Leading with Love: Darrell Duncan
01/26/2024
Leading with Love: Darrell Duncan
Christine Simone, host of Career Conversations, interviews Darrell Duncan, vice president of finance at Lipscomb University in Nashville, Tennessee. Duncan shares insights from his 25+ year career in higher ed finance, including the importance of loving people, being visible, and embracing change. Key Takeaways: Lead with love – Duncan believes you must love people to truly lead them. Exhibit care and develop trust. Be visible – Connect with your team regularly. See how they're doing and what's on their mind. Pivot quickly – When changes happen, pivot swiftly to the new goals. Support leadership's vision. Learn, unlearn, relearn – Stay open to new perspectives. Be willing to admit when you're wrong. Focus on the mission – Put the organization's success first and the rest will follow. Enjoy the journey – Appreciate relationships and the process. Find work that motivates you. Persevere – When challenges arise, get back up. Let obstacles motivate rather than discourage. Duncan explains that with openness, care, and positivity, you can accomplish great things in your career. Tune in to hear more! Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Fully Engage and Fail Forward: Marissa Pace
01/12/2024
Fully Engage and Fail Forward: Marissa Pace
In this episode, host Christine Simone interviews Marissa Pace, associate vice president of business and financial affairs at Spelman College. Pace shares her journey transitioning from corporate finance roles to higher education administration, driven by the mission to educate and serve students. Key Takeaways: Higher ed provides a sense of purpose Engage fully in roles to understand how you fit into the bigger picture Fail forward – mistakes provide opportunities to learn and grow Build relationships and diverse networks of mentors Take risks and accept new challenges to progress careers Pace’s story shows how following your passion can bring great purpose and fulfillment. Her advice on networking, risk-taking, and learning from failures provides valuable lessons for career transitions. LINKS Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Know Your Worth: Virginia Teachey
12/08/2023
Know Your Worth: Virginia Teachey
In this episode, host Christine Simone interviews Virginia Teachey, associate vice president of budget and finance at Penn State University. Teachey shares how she accidentally fell into higher ed administration but progressed to leadership through mentorship, calculated risks, and self-investment. Key Takeaways: Started higher ed career accidentally but stayed for mission-focused work Mentors guided career development at all stages Took calculated risks and invested in self-education Leaders should motivate teams, not wield titles Hard work and openness enabled career progression Teachey's story shows how mentorship, calculated risks, and continual learning can advance leadership and careers. LINKS Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Fostering Strong Teams and Seeking Challenges: Katie Walker
11/17/2023
Fostering Strong Teams and Seeking Challenges: Katie Walker
In this episode, host Christine Simone interviews Katie Walker, Assistant Vice President of Financial Planning and Analysis at the University of Virginia, as well as the recipient of NACUBO’s Rising Star Award. Katie shares her unexpected path to higher education finance after studying history and anthropology as an undergrad. She also provides key lessons learned about implementing budget models, utilizing data analysis, leadership principles, and fostering career growth. Key Takeaways Many meaningful roles in higher ed beyond faculty Data analysis provides insights to guide strategy Implementing new budget models requires connecting vision and buy-in Leadership builds trust through communication and recognition Foster growth by encouraging teams to take on new challenges Get comfortable with uncertainty to facilitate growth Katie's story shows how following interests can lead to unexpected yet rewarding careers. Her leadership style and budget expertise provide valuable lessons for higher ed professionals. Links Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Lead with Empathy and Get to Yes: Angie Kraetsch
11/10/2023
Lead with Empathy and Get to Yes: Angie Kraetsch
How does a finance professional go from overseeing city budgets to leading a university's financial strategy? For Angie Kraetsch, associate vice president for financial services at Cal Poly, it was a winding path full of strong mentors, challenging transitions, and learning to "get to yes." In this episode of Career Conversations, Angie shares her unique journey leading finance in both city governments and higher education. Learn how she leveraged transferable skills while navigating vastly different organizational cultures and missions. Early mentors encouraged Angie’s growth in school and work, giving her pivotal opportunities to advance and develop her leadership. Now, she encourages leading with empathy, approachability, and an openness to continued collaboration and growth. LINKS Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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Kids, Careers, and How to Have Both: Melissa Hogarty
10/20/2023
Kids, Careers, and How to Have Both: Melissa Hogarty
Balancing parenthood and career growth isn't easy, but Melissa Hogarty is proof it can be done. As Assistant Vice President for Business in the Office of Finance and Administration at Stony Brook University in New York, Melissa has climbed the ladder in higher ed while raising two kids. She joins host Christine Simone on Career Conversations to share her journey and tips, from managing mom guilt to leading with empowerment. They discuss Melissa's career journey in higher education, from working at a medical school to various roles at Stony Brook University. After starting a family, Melissa’s priorities shifted and she’s prioritized normalizing conversations about work-life balance both among her colleagues and when giving professional presentations. The episode provides an inside look at the challenges of identifying as a parenting professional, regardless of gender. Melissa offers encouragement, tips, and her story to inspire other professionals balancing parenthood and career growth. LINKS Check out NACUBO’s other podcasts!
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