The Economy of Nothing Podcast
The Economy of Nothing is a show about building something real in a world that rewards nothing. Part podcast, part experiment, part transmission from the void—this is where ideas get tested, stories get shaped, and the impossible might get made. Join us each week as we work in public and try to make meaning from the mess.
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106 | Mr. Green’s Totally Real Stock Tips
08/19/2025
106 | Mr. Green’s Totally Real Stock Tips
The Moonshine Crew is back, and this week Mr. Green reveals his Totally Real Stock Tips™ (please, absolutely do not invest). Along the way, Captain Unemployment battles HOAs, Cheyenne threatens society with fruit trees, and the crew decides once and for all whether movies break physics or just common sense. We rant about streaming ads as harassment, cross a Rubicon that technically doesn’t exist, and dip into the ethics of AI, dictatorships, and why tire pressure lights are the true enemies of freedom. It’s financial advice you can’t afford to take — wrapped in car trouble, Star Wars meltdowns, and one very suspicious Hamilton reference.
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105 | Twisted and Mental: Ice Cream, Streaming Ads, and Other Crimes
08/12/2025
105 | Twisted and Mental: Ice Cream, Streaming Ads, and Other Crimes
From dragons to $10 ice cream in 63 minutes. In this episode of The Economy of Nothing, hosts Mike Allen and Mike Bedont veer from $10 ice cream cones to streaming ads (or as they call them, “subtracts”), with plenty of detours in between. They debate whether dragons might have been real, celebrate Twisted Metal for getting TV right, and roast the decline of modern writing. Along the way, they dig into corporate collusion, the economics of novelty pricing, and Big Pharma’s slow-motion disclaimers, all while keeping the conversation funny, fast, and just a little unhinged. From nostalgic TV rants to full-on ice cream conspiracies, it’s another unpredictable, entertaining ride through capitalism, pop culture, and the weird logic of the algorithm. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:28 Meet the Hosts 01:16 Unemployment 03:30 The $10 Ice Cream Rant 08:53 Streaming Services & Ads 13:04 Pharma Ads & Medicine 24:04 Economic Rants & Conspiracies 40:44 Pivot / Closing Thoughts 41:11 Twisted Metal (the show!) 45:10 The Decline of TV Writing 52:36 Dragons: Myth or Reality? 59:27 “Subtracts”: What We’re Calling Ads Now 01:03:58 Political Rants & Social Commentary 01:11:55 Future Plans
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104 | America's Drink
08/05/2025
104 | America's Drink
This week we talk pirates, billionaires, and the algorithmic rot of corporate booze. It’s a classic EoN hangout: Mike and Mike spiral through *Pirates of the Caribbean 5*, Nintendo nostalgia, weird fitness VR, and the slow death of flavor. The ghost of Four Loko lingers over everything. Also: livestream call-in culture, Google Calendar breakdowns, and the real reason Portal games feel like jobs. 📺 Visual Radio™: 🎧 Extended episodes + bonus content: 🌐 Official site: 📬 Contact:
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103 | God's Gonna Sit This One Out (and you should too)
07/29/2025
103 | God's Gonna Sit This One Out (and you should too)
This week on The Economy of Nothing, we ask the big questions: What if Forrest Gump had AIDS? What if Liam Neeson’s wolf fight was real? And what if your guest couldn’t speak… because she was an octopus robot? Mike Allen (Mr. Green) opens the Man Cave™ for a cinematic breakdown of The Grey, The Punisher, and the existential dread of survival movies. Meanwhile, Captain Tracy fights malfunctioning tech, Mississippi the dog, and a sentient Nanny Bot. Sarah joins the crew—sort of—but due to technical difficulties, her voice is silenced... leading to a cascade of bits about compliance robots, gender, and divine absence. Featuring: • 🐙 Sarah the robot-octopus • 🐺 Wolf metaphors & Mr. Green’s PTSD • 🙏 God’s Not Dead, He’s Just Off-Duty • 🐶 Mississippi the dog and her nannybot • 🕶️ 3D Glasses, Full-Conductors, and survival despair0 0
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102 | Star Wars and the Search for More SEO
07/22/2025
102 | Star Wars and the Search for More SEO
This week, we broadcast directly from Yavin 4 to bring you the Star Wars Special—a rogue transmission of hot takes, nostalgic rewatches, and corporate-media despair. Mike B is joined by Brent and David for a full-scale nerd-out over Andor Season 2, the tragic brilliance of Rogue One, and whether Clone Wars ever really worked. From Ewok basement parties to the bureaucracy of fascism, we ask the big questions: 📼 What makes Andor so good it breaks Star Wars? 🧮 Can any future Star Wars match it—or are we just optimizing content for the algorithm now? 📺 Does Resistance even exist? Also discussed: Droids, Rebels, The Phantom Menace, Caravan of Courage, Tony Gilroy, the MCU problem, and the feeling of existential dread when you realize The Search for More SEO might be the last time this galaxy had anything worth saying.
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101 | The Sheep of Wall Street
07/15/2025
101 | The Sheep of Wall Street
Welcome to Episode 101 of The Economy of Nothing — the first official episode of the podcast reboot, where we start building a universe from the basement up. Literally. Join hosts Mike Allen (aka Mr. Green) and Mike Bedont as they draft the blueprints for Mr. Green’s man cave, dream up a parody of Wall Street inside a cartoon space truck, and argue over how much a Patreon tier should cost. Also in this episode: Is The Economy of Nothing a parody of Spaceballs or Star Wars? Yes. Mr. Green’s La-Z-Boy, red-blue 3D glasses, and whip wall. “Don’t date your boss’s prostitute.” (Life lessons from Wall Street.) Visual Radio vs. Real Radio: what even is this show? Patreon tiers, leaderboard schemes, and audience participation capitalism. 👽 Visual Radio is coming. 🍿 Let’s all go to the man cave. 🎩 Mr. Green’s hat is real. 💸 $150/month = immortality on the Founders Wall. 🎙️ Podcast + Visual Radio + Shorts + Sketches 📼 Full archive at: 💰 Patreon: 00:00 Welcome to the Economy of Nothing Podcast! 01:12 Space Balls Parody and Merchandise 02:31 Mr. Green's Silver Screen Critiques 03:56 Building Mr. Green's Man Cave 13:41 Patreon and Funding Discussion 22:55 Visual Radio and Content Strategy 42:03 A Tangled Start 42:10 Hair Dilemmas and Producer Woes 42:53 Social Media Deep Dive 43:45 Wall Street Talk 46:03 Mr. Green's Man Cave 49:43 Wall Street Movie Analysis 01:04:18 Investment Strategies and Market Realities 01:17:19 Show Plans and Future Episodes
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015 | Permanent Vacation
07/08/2025
015 | Permanent Vacation
🎙️ Episode 015 – Permanent Vacation 📄 Description: Cheyenne’s taking PTO (Permanent Tactical Offloading), Mr. Green’s watching movies on the moon, and Captain Tracy is trying so hard to hold it all together. This week on The Economy of Nothing, we redefine rest, rage, and rant-based animation economy. In this episode: Cheyenne Soapbox is pitched as a lightning-powered trading card animation Mr. Green's Silver Screen Critiques go full fart-cloud NFT The crew watches Squid Game Season 3 projected on a lunar surface We invent the Attention Span Meter™ and still forget what we were talking about Everyone argues about reading, data, capitalism, babies, and the philosophical implications of doing nothing Also featuring: 📈 Ryan turning into Anime Pope 🐐 Mike shapeshifting into a fainting goat 🎥 Mr. Green’s film review of “Squid Game: Baby Edition” 📺 Visual Radio Cut: 🌐 Episode Page:
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014| We’re Plotting a Show (and Losing the Plot)
07/01/2025
014| We’re Plotting a Show (and Losing the Plot)
This week, Mike's out and the remaining crew spirals through the process of trying to write a fake TV show—live, on mic, with no plan. It starts with a discussion of how the podcast itself *is* the pitch, and quickly devolves into segment chaos, Dispatch bureaucracy, and an attempt to build the Nothing Corporation's propaganda machine around Cheyenne. Also, The Accountant 2 gets rebooted again for some reason. Expect: production rants, anime modeling notes, fake commercials for surveillance drones, and a completely earnest breakdown of how (not) to structure a show. Welcome to the Economy of Nothing. 🔹 Segment Highlights: – Cheyenne becomes the face of Nothing Corp™ – Dispatch motivationally cuts Medicaid – How we (don’t) structure episodes – Segment Survivor is born – The Accountant 2: still a problem – Visual Radio vs Podcast breakdown 💌 Patreon: https://patreon.com/economyofnothing 🌐 Web: https://economyofnothing.com 📺 Visual Radio version on YouTube (@economyofnothing)
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013 | Shark Tank of Ideas
06/24/2025
013 | Shark Tank of Ideas
In this episode of The Economy of Nothing, the crew tests the limits of what counts as a good idea. Ryan (aka Training Unit D1-CK) pitches from above a shark tank. Mike Allen analyzes fame, narcissism, and banner quality. The Captain just wants the podcast to stay on track. Along the way, they invent the Hollowoods Content Feedback Loop™, crown a new podcast king, and argue about mermaids—again. Recorded live across the studio, the truck, and deep within the Moonshine. 🔗 Early access + lore:
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012 | Episode Twelve
06/17/2025
012 | Episode Twelve
Episode 012 – The Economy of Nothing Podcast What happens when you explain it over and over… and nobody listens? The Captain's losing patience, Mr. Green’s spiraling about paperwork and waffles, and the Nothing Corporation quietly continues its galactic HR violations. In this episode: – The Moonshine Crew debates waffles vs. whiskey – Mike & Mike try to improvise… and lose their minds – Lore deep-dives on Mars, the cowboy planet, and dragon egg heists – Visual Radio plans for the animated show – Batman discourse gets completely out of hand It’s all nonsense. But it’s our nonsense. The Economy of Nothing™—now with slightly more structure and slightly less hope. 👕 Merch: 🎧 More episodes at
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011 | A Surreal Metaphor
06/10/2025
011 | A Surreal Metaphor
This wasn’t supposed to be the episode. But it happened, we recorded it, and now it’s canon. Episode XI starts with some low-grade chaos: voice tests, pharmaceutical tangents, a show that may or may not exist. Then Ryan calls in. And we spend the next hour and a half trying to figure out whether we’re friends, coworkers, or just people who keep accidentally podcasting together. It’s not dramatic, exactly. But it’s definitely… not nothing. No lore this week. No planned bits. Just a long, strange conversation about apologies, performance, and whether anything means anything. 🎧
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010 | Lesbian Scissoring Saves the Universe: Part II
06/03/2025
010 | Lesbian Scissoring Saves the Universe: Part II
We finally hit double digits... so naturally, we switched to Roman numerals instead. The only thing scarier than Episode Ten is the commitment to continuing. So we rebranded — X is cool, X is timeless, X has no expectations. It's a numeral now. Deal with it. We’re doing paperwork with Mississippi while Sailor Moon scissoring her way into queer canon. In this episode, the crew breaks down the internal logic of Dispatch — a split-tower, multi-floor nightmare of bureaucracy where revolutions are buried under form 9B. Cheyenne is filing prisoner reports and hosting astrology-themed intern rituals. Mr. Green is climbing the social ladder. The Captain would prefer not to talk to anyone. Somewhere between Monsters Inc. and a workplace seance, we uncover what makes each crew member tick — and why the Nothing Corporation would absolutely mislabel the stars just to ruin Cheyenne’s horoscope. Then, after the hour mark, the pod launches into a wild tailspin of: 🧠 The rise of AI influencers 🏫 Local library supremacy 🧹 JK Rowling’s crimes against narrative and humanity 💥 She-Hulk vs. Deadpool vs. the woke-industrial complex 🍻 Butterbeer addiction 😬 Mike Allen, the rainbow behind the Moses fan And we ask: if the Nothing Corporation says Pluto is a floor tile, is it? Call to Action: ✨ Get the early uncut video and join the rituals:
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009 | The Least Facebook Thing Becomes the Most Facebook Thing
05/27/2025
009 | The Least Facebook Thing Becomes the Most Facebook Thing
https://economyofnothing.com/podcast/009-facebook In this episode of The Economy of Nothing, the crew descends into full Dispatch chaos: empathy overloads, elevator jingles, and a leaderboard system that runs on trinkets, trauma, and vibes. Captain Tracy nearly punches out a She-Joe Rogan. Mr. Green bribes an elevator operator with a Tamagotchi. And Cheyenne… well, Cheyenne has reached the upper limits of emotional labor inside a bureaucratic surveillance tower that believes in feelings—but only as policy. We unpack the evolution of the Dispatch, why the most “non-Facebook” thing became the most Facebook thing, and how rogue podcasting formats might be the only way to fight back. If you're looking for the full mess (including 45 extra minutes of rogue formats, podcast theory, and the original fight pitch), head to or find us on your podcast app of choice. ⏱️ Suggested Timecode Chapters Timestamp Chapter Title 00:00 Welcome to the Facebookverse 00:10 Character Merch, Identity & Performance 00:20 Podcast Form Theory & Thumbs Up Culture 00:30 Captain Tracy vs She-Rogan 00:45 Dispatch as Setting, Lore, and Structure 01:05 The Food Court Murder Mystery Begins 01:15 The Elevator Song Is Mandatory 01:26 Cheyenne's Empath Meltdown 01:39 Leaderboards, Loyalty, and the Nothing Machine 01:55 Outro Ramble & Existential Wrap-Up
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008 | Moses, Michael Westen, Bob Kelso
05/20/2025
008 | Moses, Michael Westen, Bob Kelso
Welcome back to the only sci-fi podcast brave enough to take Scrubs seriously and turn The Prince of Egypt into corporate canon. This week on The Economy of Nothing: Cheyenne becomes Bob Kelso. Captain Tracy walks like an overly sexy Moses. Mr. Green brands the ship and burns the kitchen down. Ryan tries to cook… metaphorically. Mike Allen gets cold medicine. And a trophy. 🎧 Full lore, visuals, and extras: 💾 Support the show + get early access: 00:00 - Cold Open: Storage Container Lore 11:00 - Burn Notice Homework 13:00 - TV Show Club Setup 16:00 - Prince of Egypt Begins 20:00 - Moses as Captain Tracy 25:00 - What Comes After You Win? 29:00 - Musical Power Struggles 33:00 - Captain Tracy and the Red Sea 38:00 - Scrubs Setup 40:00 - My Jiggly Ball Explained 44:00 - Bob Kelso's Moral Spiral 49:00 - Let Me Cook (Ship Branding Chaos) 54:00 - Sponsor Deck from Hell 59:00 - Puppetmaster Metaphor 1:24:00 - Uncrustables & Content Club Wrap-Up 1:25:00 - Next Week’s Pick
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007 | Pay to Lose
05/13/2025
007 | Pay to Lose
Description: What if a board game could bankrupt you and teach you how the economy works? In this episode, the crew designs the ultimate satirical game — part Mario Party, part Monopoly, part Squid Game — and accidentally stumbles into an entire TV episode. Plus: 🎲 The rules of "Economy of Nothing: The Game" 👀 Mr. Green’s mob boss era 🧠 Mike Allen earns the “genius” badge 📺 TV Show Club™ kicks off https://economyofnothing.com/codex/content-club 🧃 Ryan discovers crystal mic playing Timecodes: 00:00 – Intro & Welcome to the Board Game Planet 02:20 – Cheyenne Plays the Microphone Like a Crystal Glass 08:45 – TV Show Club: Burn Notice & Corporate Paranoia 16:00 – Mr. Green Becomes a Mob Boss 21:30 – The Rangers Form a Sewer Gang 29:00 – Virtual Gangs & Game Show Simulations 42:00 – The Mario Party Monopoly Death Trap Planet 57:00 – Mike Allen Rewrites Capitalism (Genius Moment) 1:01:00 – Game Ends When You Reach the Finish Line… but Lose 1:06:00 – Mr. Green’s Potato Sack Race from Hell 1:14:00 – We Build a Real Game 1:27:00 – Outro: Buy the Box Set at Your Local Dispatch Office
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006 | Choose Your Own Surveillance Orb
05/06/2025
006 | Choose Your Own Surveillance Orb
When a ceremonial dragon egg vanishes from the palace vault, our crew is dispatched to recover it — or at least look like they’re recovering it. Cheyenne's secret orders, Mr. Green’s weaponized laser pointer, and Captain Tracy's ongoing breakdown collide in the messiest mission yet. This one has everything: rebel camps, wizards with interns, jungle fires, and one very angry baby dragon. https://economyofnothing.com/podcast/006-choose-your-own-surveillance-orb 📺 Watch full episodes and access transcripts: 🧾 Codex entries: 💸 Support the show:
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005 | How Mr. Green Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Economy
04/29/2025
005 | How Mr. Green Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Economy
Mr. Green just wanted to make it home for dinner. Instead, he faces deep space scurvy, bureaucratic betrayal, and the uncomfortable truth that survival comes at a cost. In this episode of The Economy of Nothing, Mike, Mike Allen, and Ryan dive into Mr. Green’s fractured loyalty, Captain Tracy’s stubborn morality, and the myth of Deep Space Scurvy. Plus: for-profit orphanages, gladiator pits, and a galaxy that runs on deadlines, not dreams. https://economyofnothing.com/podcast/005-how-mr-green-learned-to-stop-worrying 🎥 Watch the Visual Radio Edition on YouTube: [YouTube Link Placeholder] 💸 Support the show: 🌐 Visit the Codex: 0:00 — Theme Song + Cold Open 2:00 — The Vanity Check: Turn Off Your Camera 5:00 — Deep Space Scurvy Explained (Badly) 10:00 — Mr. Green’s Real Motivation: Dinner and Survival 18:00 — The Captain’s Hero Complex 24:00 — Who's the Real Protagonist? (Hint: It’s Not Cheyenne) 32:00 — Building Mr. Green’s Moral Code 40:00 — For-Profit Orphanages and the Cost of Loyalty 48:00 — Gladiator Pits of New Rome: Mr. Green's Past 55:00 — The Myth of Deep Space Scurvy Spreads 1:02:00 — Balancing Work, Family, and Galactic Collapse 1:10:00 — Outro and Future Trouble
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004 | Captain Tracy, You're the Problem
04/22/2025
004 | Captain Tracy, You're the Problem
In our most chaotic (and somehow also deepest?) episode yet, we celebrate Mike Allen’s birthday while unraveling the character of Captain Tracy — war vet, space trucker, wannabe legend. Does he deserve to be the protagonist of The Economy of Nothing? Or is he just the loudest guy in the room? Along the way, we debate birthdays, bathroom logic, what a protagonist actually is, and the cosmic importance of Waffle House. Also: Cheyenne’s new Codex page is live. And yes, she absolutely would weaponize her interns. 🔗 Check out the Codex: 💥 Join the rebellion: 🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple: 📺 Watch the visual radio: 0:00 – Happy Birthday Mike Allen (??) 3:00 – Are Birthdays the Same as Handwashing? 6:30 – The Captain’s Bathroom Doctrine 10:00 – Who's the Protagonist Anyway? 16:00 – The Cheyenne Codex Page Breakdown 26:00 – The Robo-Human Wars and the Rise of the Nothing Corporation 33:00 – Everyone’s Wrong Until Something Works 42:00 – Katniss, Coin, and the Captain's Arc 52:00 – Mr. Green’s Chachki Collection and Personal Capitalism 59:00 – The Captain’s Flawed Need to Be Remembered 1:07:00 – The Intergalactic House Waffle's is Real 1:18:00 – The Rangers Deserve Better 1:24:00 – A Cozy Penguin Narrator? 1:30:00 – Final Thoughts, Saturn Blood, and Birthday Wrap-Up
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003 | The Cheyenne Episode
04/15/2025
003 | The Cheyenne Episode
Epidoes 003 e-mail: In this glorious descent into glitter and chaos, we go full girlboss. This week’s focus: Captain Cheyenne — pilot, captain, and capitalist icon of the Sunshine. The crew breaks down her ship, her motivations, and her secret army of unpaid interns. Is she driven by greed? Glory? Orphanage-related trauma? Depends which scene you're watching. Also featuring: The origin of her golden Russian nesting doll ship Debates over corporate rank (and why Tracy is salty) Munitions officers who only want to blow stuff up Intern cult logistics Worldbuilding via anime logic and expense reports This is the episode where we realize… Cheyenne might technically outrank the main character. 🎨 Codex page coming soon at: 🌐 📺 Visual clips & animation boards at: 🟣 Support the mission:
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002 | Too Many Factions, Not Enough Sandwiches
04/07/2025
002 | Too Many Factions, Not Enough Sandwiches
This week, the team digs into the chaos of the Economy of Nothing From bounty hunters and robot sheriffs to deep space scurvy and what the Rangers *actually* think of all this—this is worldbuilding at its weirdest. TAS: Episode 1 Page: https://economyofnothing.com/episodes/season-1/episode-001 We explore motivations, faction dynamics, the cowboy planet Brenner 7, and how many groups is *too many groups* for one shootout. Also: Mississippi the dog, storyboarding tips, and what it’s like to write a sci-fi cartoon in reverse. --- 🎧 **Listen & Watch Everywhere** 🌐 Website: https://economyofnothing.com/podcast 📼 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@economyofnothing 🎧 RSS: https://economyofnothing.libsyn.com/rss 💸 Patreon: https://patreon.com/economyofnothing ✅ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@economyofnothing?sub_confirmation=1 --- 🕰️ **Chapters / Timecodes** 00:00 – Intro, Beards & Brick Walls 01:00 – Mr. Green vs. Wardrobe Logistics 03:00 – Power Rangers, Color Theory & Identity 07:00 – What Is Cowboys vs. Pirates Really About? 12:00 – Lore of the Cowboy Planet 20:00 – Skull Pirates, Freelancers, and Factions 35:00 – Vaping & Sandwiches: The Ranger Cut 47:00 – Character Motivations & Creative Workflow 55:00 – How Many Factions Is Too Many Factions? 59:00 – Closing Chaos & Moving Forward --- Got thoughts, fan theories, or better lines for Tracy? 📧 [email protected] We’re not on social media. Be better.
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001 | The Theme Song is Propaganda
04/01/2025
001 | The Theme Song is Propaganda
In this inaugural episode, Michael and Ryan go way too deep into the show’s theme song. Spoilers, satire, and existential dread included. 🕒 Timecodes 0:00 – Intro Fumbles & Space Talk 3:00 – What Is The Economy of Nothing? 4:30 – The Theme Song Mission Statement 6:30 – Theme Song Plays In Full 8:00 – Structural Breakdown 10:30 – “Planets Full of Nothing…” 14:30 – “We’re Here to Save the Day” 20:00 – Character POV Debate 25:00 – The “Might” Debate 32:00 – Rewriting the Refrain 38:00 – Mr. Green & The Void Economy 46:00 – Do the Rangers Deserve Praise? 54:00 – Is This All Propaganda? 1:00:00 – The Value of Trying 1:13:00 – Closing Lyric Woes 1:25:00 – Season Six Spoilers
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