The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

Ep 542 – Kidney Transplant Complications: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 12/09/2025

Ep 542 – Kidney Transplant Complications: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner A client has a very traumatic experience with their kidney transplant surgery in 2017. Ever since, they have lived with chronic, intractable neck and head pain that doesn’t respond to any treatment they’ve tried so far. A recent CT scan reveals some calcium deposits inside the cranium but - is that the cause? Can massage therapy help? Are there any options for this person? Resources: Anwar, Z. et al. (2011) “Superficial temporal artery calcification in patients with end-stage renal disease: Association with vascular risk factors and ischemic cerebrovascular disease,” The Indian Journal of Radiology & Imaging, 21(3), pp. 215–220. Available at: . CNN, C.S., Special to (2014) ‘I couldn’t move’: Patients who wake up during surgery, CNN. Available at: (Accessed: November 14, 2025). Healthcare, G.E. (2020) Waking Up During Surgery: A Nightmare | Clinical View. Available at: (Accessed: November 14, 2025). Kiroglu, Y. et al. (2009) “Intracranial calcifications on computed tomography: pictorial essay,” Diagnostic and Interventional Radiology [Preprint]. Available at: . Li, Xuelong et al. (2022) “The association of renal impairment with different patterns of intracranial arterial calcification: Intimal and medial calcification,” Atherosclerosis, 363, pp. 42–47. Available at: . Host Bio:              Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/39325985

Ep 541 – The Top Five Techniques I Keep Coming Back To: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 12/02/2025

Ep 541 – The Top Five Techniques I Keep Coming Back To: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney For my last episode of 2025, I am giving you a top 5 list. These are the top 5 techniques that I have kept in my pocket throughout my 25 years as a massage therapist. I break down how they work, why they're so effective, and, of course, why I love them. Thank you for getting me to my 84th episode. Here's to 2026! Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney:             Allison’s website:                     Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .        About our Sponsors: Rebel Massage Therapist: Anatomy Trains:   Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/39224815

Ep 540 – Exploring Gratitude with Kristin Coverly 11/18/2025

Ep 540 – Exploring Gratitude with Kristin Coverly Join Kristin Coverly as she explores the health benefits of gratitude, practices to incorporate into your daily life, and chats with guests Allison Denney and Ann and Lynn Teachworth about their gratitude practices. Gain information and tools you can immediately apply to your personal and professional lives! Resources: ABMP Education Center: ABMP CE Socials Event: What is Gratitude and Why Is It So Important?: The Neuroscience of Gratitude & Its Effects on the Brain: The Effects of Gratitude Interventions: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis: Health benefits of gratitude: 11 Best Gratitude Apps to Increase Your Wellbeing: Host: Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at . Guests: Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .  Ann and Lynn Teachworth of Trunamics integrate structural, functional, and energetic concepts to help good therapists be great. Ann is director of education at Inspirit School of Healing Arts. She integrates manual therapy, energetic modalities, the Franklin Method, yoga, breathwork, meditation, and mindfulness to help people understand and experience their design and function more fully. Lynn has been a licensed massage therapist for over 25 years, and he specializes in pain, sports injuries, and sports performance. One of only a few therapists in the world with advanced training in structural bodywork, biomechanics, movement, and energy medicine, he is able to address a wide variety of acute and chronic injuries. Learn more at . Sponsor: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:   /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/39067185

Ep 539 – Thinking In Systems Not Symptoms with Doug Nelson 11/11/2025

Ep 539 – Thinking In Systems Not Symptoms with Doug Nelson In integrated and interrelated systems, small effects cascade to become much larger forces over time. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson asks if there is more of an integrated and interrelated system than the human body? Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client visits annually for decades, he is also the owner of BodyWork Associates, a massage therapy clinic in Champaign, IL. with 21 therapists that was established in 1982. He is the founder of NMT MidWest, Inc., providing training in Precision Neuromuscular Therapy™ across the USA. He has personally taught more than 13,000 hours of continuing education and is the author of three books. Doug is a past president of the Massage Therapy Foundation. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: on Instagram or at on Facebook. /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38981570

Ep 538 – Big Picture Guidance: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 11/07/2025

Ep 537 – Vagus Nerve Stimulator: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 11/04/2025

Ep 537 – Vagus Nerve Stimulator: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner A simple question turned into a deep dive, and I learned a ton along the way! A client has an implanted vagus nerve stimulator. Now what? In this episode of I Have a Client Who . . ., Ruth explore's how vagus nerve stimulators work, why they’re used, and the precautions massage therapists should consider. Plus, we discuss the exciting possibilities these devices hold for a wide range of treatments. Resources: Ben-Menachem, E. (2001) “Vagus nerve stimulation, side effects, and long-term safety,” Journal of Clinical Neurophysiology: Official Publication of the American Electroencephalographic Society, 18(5), pp. 415–418. Available at: . Lerman, I. et al. (2019) “Noninvasive vagus nerve stimulation alters neural response and physiological autonomic tone to noxious thermal challenge,” PLoS ONE, 14(2), p. e0201212. Available at: . Mandalaneni, K. and Rayi, A. (2025) “Vagus Nerve Stimulator,” in StatPearls. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing. Available at: (Accessed: October 22, 2025). Olsen, L.K. et al. (2023) “Vagus nerve stimulation: mechanisms and factors involved in memory enhancement,” Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, 17. Available at: . Tariq, K. et al. (2020) “A case report of Vagus nerve stimulation for intractable hiccups,” International Journal of Surgery Case Reports, 78, pp. 219–222. Available at: . UCL (2025) Vagus nerve stimulation could help people get more exercise, UCL News. Available at: (Accessed: October 22, 2025). Vagus Nerve (no date) Physiopedia. Available at: (Accessed: October 22, 2025). Vagus Nerve Stimulation (VNS): What It Is, Uses & Side Effects (no date) Cleveland Clinic. Available at: (Accessed: October 18, 2025). Wu, Q. et al. (2024) “Current status of transcutaneous auricular vagus nerve stimulation for tinnitus: a narrative review of modern research,” Frontiers in Neuroscience, 18, p. 1405310. Available at: . Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .                                    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38895760

Ep 536 – The Price of Deep Tissue: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 10/28/2025

Ep 536 – The Price of Deep Tissue: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney This month mark's my 25th anniversary of being a massage therapist. In my 25 years, I have developed some opinions about definitions. In this episode of The Rebel MT, I am breaking down the cost of deep tissue therapy, calling out who is paying the price, and analyzing how we need to rethink things. Not just for our clients, but for the sake of a long and awesome career. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney:             Allison’s website:                     Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .        About our Sponsors: Rebel Massage Therapist: Anatomy Trains:   Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38796480

Ep 535 – Tasks and Lists in Your Massage Business: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 10/24/2025

Ep 534 – Massage Therapy and Physical Therapy: An Integrated Environment 10/21/2025

Ep 534 – Massage Therapy and Physical Therapy: An Integrated Environment In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin are joined by Doug Nelson to discuss how collaboration between MTs and PTs can accelerate client outcomes and strengthen the continuum of care. Doug shares how to navigate professional boundaries, build effective communication systems, and offers practical advice for massage therapists looking to establish stronger referral relationships as well as the importance of a shared language between disciplines. Resources: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client visits annually for decades, he is also the owner of BodyWork Associates, a massage therapy clinic in Champaign, IL. with 21 therapists that was established in 1982. He is the founder of NMT MidWest, Inc., providing training in Precision Neuromuscular Therapy™ across the USA. He has personally taught more than 13,000 hours of continuing education and is the author of three books. Doug is a past president of the Massage Therapy Foundation. Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at . Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at . Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38650820

Ep 533 – The Collagen Matrix with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley 10/14/2025

Ep 533 – The Collagen Matrix with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley Collagen is everywhere in the body. The 30 trillion cells that make up the human body are held together in a matrix of collagen fibers that provides structural support and gives the body its recognizable form. In this episode, Rachelle and Nicole explore all things collagen—asking if we are really "losing" it as we age, explaining its role as the body's "glue," and discussing why understanding this matrix is essential for massage therapists. You'll learn about the different types of collagen, how the matrix adapts to movement and injury, and how massage techniques communicate with the fibroblasts that build and remodel this dynamic matrix. Resources: LAB COURSE: Journey into the MATRIX for more information about “Journey Into the MATRIX: the Fascial System” dissection lab workshop. LAB COURSE: Dissection Lab Intensive DLI for more information about the “Dissection Lab Intensive” lab workshop. Check out the Anatomy for Touch column in the Massage & Bodywork magazine at Find out more about AnatomySCAPES! Connect with us! website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Hosts: AnatomySCAPES Co-Directors, Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley, are NCBTMB-approved continuing education providers and teach anatomy explorations for hands-on professionals online and in person. They co-author the “Anatomy for Touch” column in Massage & Bodywork magazine and enjoy helping therapists better understand how anatomy relates to what they are feeling through their sense of touch. Nicole Trombley: As a massage educator, Nicole draws on her passion for human biology to help therapists better understand the tissues under their hands. She owns and operates Equilibrio Massage in San Diego, CA, where she has specialized in massage for pregnancy and postpartum since 2004. Rachelle Clauson: Rachelle loves teaching therapists about the structural organization and beauty of the human fascial system. She served as the Director of Creative and Administrative Affairs for the Fascial Net Plastination Project, and owns Flourish Bodywork, her private practice where she has offered hands-on bodywork in San Diego, CA, since 2003. /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38567815

Ep 532 – Will This Budget Software Change My Financial Life?: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 10/10/2025

Ep 531 – DVT + PE = VTE: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 10/07/2025

Ep 531 – DVT + PE = VTE: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner A client was prescribed oral birth control to help manage symptoms of perimenopause. The medication caused a deep vein thrombosis (DVT), which then caused a pulmonary embolism (PE). Altogether this forms a potentially deadly phenomenon called venous thromboembolism (VTE). She survived, and she’s fine. But here’s the thing: her PE was just two weeks ago, and she wants to receive deep massage to her neck, back, and shoulders. Yikes, right? Or maybe not? Listen in for some key decision points about this question. Resources: A Doctor’s Note is Not Good Enough… and what is better: online self-paced continuing education course, available . Massage & Bodywork magazine, “Helping Clients with Complex Conditions”, Jan/Feb 2023, available . Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38484015

Ep 530 – Deconstructing Adhesions: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 09/30/2025

Ep 530 – Deconstructing Adhesions: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney Handling adhesions is not an easy task as a massage therapist. But sometimes taking notes from Dr. Frankenstein and the relationship he had with his monster can offer up a lot of insights. In this episode, Allison explores what it would be like if we could shift our approach, use a little pixie dust, and learn how to love a monster. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney:             Allison’s website:                     Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .                         About our Sponsors: Rebel Massage Therapist: Anatomy Trains:   Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38396190

Ep 529 – Business Structure Options for a Massage Therapist: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 09/26/2025

Ep 528 - Beyond the Table with Angie Parris and Melanie Burns 09/23/2025

Ep 528 - Beyond the Table with Angie Parris and Melanie Burns In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie welcomes Melanie Burns, CEO of Anatomy Trains and director in Europe and the UK. Melanie shares her inspiring journey to Ukraine, where she volunteered to train manual therapists working with soldiers recovering from war injuries, including amputations and head trauma. With a unique background that bridges psychology, massage therapy, yoga, and international business, Melanie reflects on the cultural challenges, personal rewards, and professional growth that came from this powerful experience. Melanie is the CEO of Anatomy Trains and director in Europe and the UK. She comes with an extensive background in international business, a bachelor’s degree in psychology, and is a licensed massage therapist. She also owns and operates a 500-hour yoga teacher training in Maine and teaches Polyvagal Theory at Kripalu. Host: Angie Parris is a licensed massage therapist and is the advertising director for ABMP. She is Chopra Center Certified in meditation and ayurvedic lifestyle. Her training explores physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual health. Angie is also the founder of the nonprofit, Project Inti, an organization that provides aid to low-income Peruvian families and communities. For more information, visit . Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: on Instagram or at on Facebook. /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38313510

Ep 527 – Bidirectionality with Doug Nelson 09/16/2025

Ep 527 – Bidirectionality with Doug Nelson In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson explores the concept of bidirectionality - the mutual and reciprocal influence where each factor shapes the other. He discusses how physiological changes during a session affect both client and therapist, and how moments of shared connection and humanity remind us of the profound healing power of touch. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client visits annually for decades, he is also the owner of BodyWork Associates, a massage therapy clinic in Champaign, IL. with 21 therapists that was established in 1982. He is the founder of NMT MidWest, Inc., providing training in Precision Neuromuscular Therapy™ across the USA. He has personally taught more than 13,000 hours of continuing education and is the author of three books. Doug is a past president of the Massage Therapy Foundation. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: on Instagram or at on Facebook. /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38180340

Ep 526 – Unlocking the Full Potential of Your Business with Erin Kuhn Bhansali 09/12/2025

Ep 525 – Self Defense for Massage Therapists: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 09/09/2025

Ep 525 – Self Defense for Massage Therapists: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner Teresa Matthews is a nationally accredited massage therapy continuing education provider, a massage school owner, an athlete and personal trainer, and now… a published author. Her new book, Self Defense for Massage Therapists is now available and—in my opinion—should be considered a required topic in massage therapy beginning education. In this interview Teresa shares how this project developed, and her priorities for teaching massage therapists to be safe at all times. Resources: Amazon Link Global Book Publishing link: Recent article in Massage & Bodywork magazine: Teresa’s FB page: Teresa’s IG page: Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38130565

Ep 524 – The Anatomy of the Iris & Lessons from Vegas: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 09/02/2025

Ep 524 – The Anatomy of the Iris & Lessons from Vegas: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney On a recent trip to Las Vegas and on a quest to find a good cup of coffee, I found myself staring at my own eyeball. It sent me down a rabbit hole of eyeball anatomy that I didn't even know I wanted to know. Turns out, I knew more than I thought I did. And my bet is you do too. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney:       Allison’s website:            Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .        About our Sponsors: Rebel Massage Therapist: Anatomy Trains:   Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/38022660

Ep 523 – How to Measure Rebooking Rates: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 08/29/2025

Ep 522 – The Art and Science of Clinical Reasoning with Whitney Lowe 08/26/2025

Ep 522 – The Art and Science of Clinical Reasoning with Whitney Lowe In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe explores a systematic, creative approach to moving beyond basic routines, while confidently solving MT’s most challenging client cases. Host: Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a 36-year career marked by clinical work, research, publications, and teaching in advanced massage principles. He specializes in treating pain and injuries using massage and is one of the pioneers of the orthopedic massage approach. Lowe's Orthopedic Massage Program stands out in its engaging and accessible design and comprehensive curriculum. Students, whether learning online or in-person, praise Lowe for his approachable style and personalized training. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:   Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: on Instagram or at on Facebook. MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management. Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: Follow MassageBook on , , /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37951400

Ep 521 – Be Strategic. Stay Professional. Keep Curious with Chris Curry 08/19/2025

Ep 521 – Be Strategic. Stay Professional. Keep Curious with Chris Curry In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin speak with Chris Curry about his massage therapy origin story and the journey that inspired him to guide future therapists. Chris also opens up about his experience competing in massage therapy competitions, including what he won and what he learned. Finally, he gives listeners five practical tips to elevate their next massage session, straight from an award-winning massage therapist. Resources: Chris Curry is an award-winning massage therapist and instructor practicing in Denver, Colorado. He specializes in therapeutic and medical massage techniques including myofascial release, neuromuscular therapy, structural integration, and craniosacral therapy. Chris believes in a holistic approach to wellness, where massage therapy is not just a treatment, but a gateway to a balanced and healthier lifestyle. This combination of different modalities creates a truly unique and powerful massage, catered to the client’s specific needs. Chris has worked with professional sports teams and athletes. And he owns and runs his business Discover Wellness Massage. And Chris represented Team USA at the 2024 and 2025 World Championship of Massage. For more information about Chris, visit discoverwellnessmassage.com. Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at . Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at . Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37866535

Ep 520 – Facility Policies: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 08/12/2025

Ep 520 – Facility Policies: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner A seasoned massage therapist has just started working at a prestigious facility where client intakes are only conducted on the fly, and nothing is documented. Almost immediately, two clients present with complex situations that could be made substantially worse by thoughtless massage. What to do? In this episode we explore this complex question. I have some thoughts from the massage side of the equation, and I also turned to an industry expert, Sherrie Tennessee, PhD, to help understand this from the point of view of the businesses. I also speculate on what it would be like if I were Queen of the World, but that’s a bit beside the point. Resources: Sherrie Tennessee, Ph.D., CHE, Founder, SpaSOS | Author | Educator | Industry Speaker Website: SpaSOS: Revolutionizing Your Spa with Wellness Technology Author: How to Open a Wellness Center: 31-Day Guide Instagram: YouTube: @spasos LinkedIn: Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:     Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: @precisionnmt on Instagram or at Precision Neuromuscular Therapy Seminars on Facebook. MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management. Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: Follow MassageBook on , , /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37758860

Ep 519 – There Is No Such Thing as Correct Body Mechanics: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 08/05/2025

Ep 518 – Baby Steps in Budget Management: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 08/01/2025

Ep 517 – Myofascial Expansions with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley 07/29/2025

Ep 517 – Myofascial Expansions with Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley The musculoskeletal system is at the heart of anatomy education for most massage therapists. But when we add the fascial system, how does that change the movement story? In this episode, and discuss a lesser known part of the force transmitting system of the human body: the myofascial expansion—precise anatomical connections where skeletal muscles insert into fascia, not just bones. These fascial connections amplify muscular force and provide crucial neuromuscular coordination through nerve feedback systems. Ever misjudge stepping off a curb? That's your fascial system at work. Understanding myofascial expansions helps therapists work more effectively by looking beyond the individual muscles and considering the more expansive interconnected whole. Resources: UPCOMING COURSE: Journey into the MATRIX for more information about “Journey Into the MATRIX: the Fascial System” dissection lab workshop. UPCOMING COURSE: Dissection Lab Intensive for more information about the “Dissection Lab Intensive” lab workshop. Check out the Anatomy for Touch column in the Massage & Bodywork magazine at Find out more about AnatomySCAPES! Connect with us! website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Host: AnatomySCAPES Co-Directors, Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley, are NCBTMB-approved continuing education providers and teach anatomy explorations for hands-on professionals online and in person. They co-author the “Anatomy for Touch” column in Massage & Bodywork magazine and enjoy helping therapists better understand how anatomy relates to what they are feeling through their sense of touch. Nicole Trombley: As a massage educator, Nicole draws on her passion for human biology to help therapists better understand the tissues under their hands. She owns and operates Equilibrio Massage in San Diego, CA, where she has specialized in massage for pregnancy and postpartum since 2004. Rachelle Clauson: Rachelle loves teaching therapists about the structural organization and beauty of the human fascial system. She served as the Director of Creative and Administrative Affairs for the Fascial Net Plastination Project, and owns Flourish Bodywork, her private practice where she has offered hands-on bodywork in San Diego, CA, since 2003. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37535900

Ep 516 – What Inspires You to Help Others with Kristin Coverly 07/22/2025

Ep 515 – Budget-Coach Reality: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines 07/18/2025

Ep 514 – LAD Stent: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner 07/15/2025

Ep 514 – LAD Stent: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner A client has a recently placed stent in their left anterior descending branch of the coronary artery. The therapist isn’t clear about safety. What to do—get permission to work? Or get information to work safely? (You get two guesses, and one of them doesn’t count.) This episode explores a helpful communication to establish client safety—and an example to us all! Resources: I Have a Client Who: Femoral Artery Stent () I Have a Client Who: Cardiac Catheter () I Have a Client Who: TAVR () online self-paced CE class Helping Clients with Complex Conditions (no date). Available at: (Accessed: 13 June 2025). Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at . And more information about her is available at .    About our Sponsors: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:   Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: @precisionnmt on Instagram or at Precision Neuromuscular Therapy Seminars on Facebook. MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management. Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: Follow MassageBook on , , /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37363180

Ep 513 – The Piriformis, The TFL, and Sitting: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney 07/08/2025

Ep 513 – The Piriformis, The TFL, and Sitting: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney Sitting is shockingly not good for your hips. Not that we need to stop sitting, but we do need to take a closer look at what happens when we cross our legs—specifically to the piriformis and the tensor fascia latae (TFL). In this episode of The Rebel MT, join Allison Denney as she compares the TFL to French cheese and the piriformis to a salty rope tethered to an anchor and unwraps how to unravel them from years of leg-crossing habits. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney:             Allison’s website:                     Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at . She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at .                         Sponsors: Rebel Massage Therapist: Anatomy Trains:   PMNT: MassageBook: Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: FB: IG: YouTube: email: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                     Website:                        Email:            Facebook:                        Instagram: YouTube:   Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars () have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique. Find our seminar schedule at with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country. Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at ! Follow us on social media: on Instagram or at on Facebook. MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management. Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: Follow MassageBook on , , /episode/index/show/abmppodcast/id/37273020

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