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A podcast for anyone discerning a vocation to the Catholic priesthood. One’s vocation from God is a deeply personal adventure. Yet frequently there are common threads that run through the Lord’s calling. Three Catholic priests sit down to discuss the familiar questions that come along with discernment while also sharing the joys and challenges of their own priestly adventure with God. We’re here to answer questions, share our priesthood, and grow in openness to God’s will.

Guest: Fr. Paul Sheller, O.S.B. 11/17/2025

Guest: Fr. Paul Sheller, O.S.B. Fr. Paul Sheller, a monk of Conception Abbey, joins us to share some stories from seminary with Fr. Chad, including a garage sale phase and the rods in Fr. Paul's back from surgery for scoliosis. Finally, Fr. Paul shares his vocation story as well as a few opportunities for anyone to deepen their spiritual life through Benedictine spirituality. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38924670

Clergy Conference with Acts XXIX 11/10/2025

Clergy Conference with Acts XXIX We begin by discussing our practice of "Videamus", in which we watch and discuss films with seminarians in order to deepen their artistic and cultural experience. Then we discuss our experience and hot takes from the recent Clergy Conference and the presentations by Fr. John Riccardo and Acts XXIX. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38859800

Guest: Fr. Michael Wegenka 11/03/2025

Guest: Fr. Michael Wegenka Today we welcome into the studio our first Jesuit priest, Fr. Michael Wegenka, S.J. We discuss his recent experience serving in Kenya as well as his take on the current state of the Jesuit order. He also shares how a priest rapping during a homily led to a curiosity about the priesthood, and the personal accompaniment of a Jesuit priest at his high school led him to his vocation. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38844835

Guest: Fr. J.D. Betzen 10/27/2025

Guest: Fr. J.D. Betzen Today we are joined by Fr. J.D. Betzen to hear about his current assignment and the only Bible based parade in the country before hearing his vocation story. As a proud nerd, Fr. J.D. educates us on Science Olympiad and shares the joy of being called to the priesthood. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38776155

Guest: Fr. Wayne Schmid 10/20/2025

Guest: Fr. Wayne Schmid It was an honor to sit down with Fr. Wayne Schmid, a full bird Army Colonel and priest of Jesus Christ. He shares his incredible journey from being "raised on a barstool" in St. Louis to reading The Story of Chaplain Kapaun as a high schooler leading him to serving as a priest in the Diocese of Wichita and nearly 25 years as an Army chaplain. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38500510

Guest: Fr. Sam Brand 10/13/2025

Guest: Fr. Sam Brand Fr. Sam Brand joins us in the studio to share his vocation story as well as the ordeal of getting his final seminary thesis complete and his important role on the seminary basketball team. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38459780

History of Celibacy 10/06/2025

History of Celibacy Today we begin by discussing our sleeping habits and give our hottest takes on naps. Then we answer a listener's question regarding the historical development of the practice of priestly celibacy. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38446155

Guest: Fr. Andy Hammeke 09/29/2025

Guest: Fr. Andy Hammeke Fr. Andy Hammeke, the vocations director for the diocese of Salina, joins us to reminisce about sports memories from seminary and then shares his vocation story and how the Lord led him from the mostly typical life of a college athlete to the priesthood. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38257570

Guest: Fr. Scott Schilmoeller 09/22/2025

Guest: Fr. Scott Schilmoeller Fr. Garett is once again joined by Fr. Paul Clark and Fr. Scott Schilmoeller to hear about karaoke nights and their favorite pranks from their time in seminary. Then Fr. Scott shares how the Lord led him to see the sense of adventure he had since childhood would be most fulfilled through a life of priesthood. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38162300

Guest: Fr. Paul Clark 09/15/2025

Guest: Fr. Paul Clark Fr. Paul Clark from Jefferson City and Fr. Scott Schilmoeller from Omaha join Fr. Garett to discuss their adventures in New York during the vocation directors conference as well as Fr. Paul's choreography expertise getting put to good use for seminary musicals. Then, Fr. Paul shares the story of his vocation, including how encounters with the saints inspired him to follow them in giving everything to the Lord. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38066855

Guest: Fr. Ryan Adorjan 09/08/2025

Guest: Fr. Ryan Adorjan Fr. Garett sits down with Fr. Ryan Adorjan from the Diocese of Joliet during some free time at a national convention for vocation directors to reminisce about their days in seminary before hearing how the Lord led Fr. Ryan from growing up with a "milk toast" experience of Catholicism to laying down his life as a priest. /episode/index/show/about4/id/38065970

Affective Maturity 09/01/2025

Affective Maturity Today we catch up on what everyone has been reading before diving into a discussion on what the Church refers to as "affective maturity" and its importance in the life of seminarians and priests. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37906030

Totus Tuus with Mark and Mary Ellen Arnold 08/25/2025

Totus Tuus with Mark and Mary Ellen Arnold Today we are joined by Mark and Mary Ellen Arnold, the Coordinators for Totus Tuus in the diocese. In between shenanigans between Fr. Chad and Mark, we share memorable stories from our time with Totus Tuus, discuss how it promotes the diocesan culture of vocations, and learn about the term "heart sparkle." /episode/index/show/about4/id/37892310

Bishop Kemme on Grief as a Priest 08/18/2025

Bishop Kemme on Grief as a Priest We welcome back Bishop Carl Kemme to share the most unique and memorable places we have celebrated the Holy Mass. Then we transition into a more somber tone to discuss the unique aspects of grief and mourning as priests, and Bishop shares his experience of the recent loss of his own mother. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37805165

Bishop Kemme on Vocational Culture 08/11/2025

Bishop Kemme on Vocational Culture We are excited to welcome back our local shepherd, Bishop Carl Kemme. We chat about a few highlights from the summer for each of us before discussing a Vatican recognition for the diocese and our sense of what makes the culture of vocations unique in Wichita. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37748435

Nazareth Style Living 08/04/2025

Nazareth Style Living In the closest thing you'll get to hear us giving interior design advice, we share our theories on what it takes to make a home (ie. just how many TVs does Fr. Drew need?) before speaking about the home at Nazareth as a model for seminary formation. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37641345

Guest: Fr. Jerome Spexarth 07/28/2025

Guest: Fr. Jerome Spexarth Fr. Jerome Spexarth joins us today to talk about his varied experiences in priestly life before sharing with us how he got the confidence to enter seminary when he literally saw writing on the wall. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37379630

Guest: Sr. Sophia Grace, TOR 07/21/2025

Guest: Sr. Sophia Grace, TOR Today we welcome in Sr. Sophia Grace to hear her explanation of possibly the longest religious community name ever. She then shares the story of how Jesus' persistent voice led her from life as a storm chaser through the inconsistencies of discernment to life as a religious sister. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37353270

Guest: Fr. Matthew Cooke 07/14/2025

Guest: Fr. Matthew Cooke Fr. Matthew Cooke joins the studio to share great memories from the first days of the House of Formation before sharing how the Lord led both he and his parents to embrace his call to the priesthood. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37277620

Relationship, Identity, Mission 07/07/2025

Relationship, Identity, Mission To start the priests discuss their picks for their ideal Drive-In Summer Movie Triple Feature. Let us know which one you'd watch. Then, we discuss a paradigm known as R-I-M that helps us to live out our vocations with the correct grounding in our life of prayer. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37273470

Guest: Fr. Todd Shepherd 06/30/2025

Guest: Fr. Todd Shepherd Today we take over Fr. Todd Shepherd's office so that you'd have the chance to hear about his least favorite liturgical hymn, his white tux at senior prom, and finally his vocation story. Enjoy. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37138115

Guest: Fr. Chris Rumback 06/23/2025

Guest: Fr. Chris Rumback Fr. Chris Rumback joins us today to share how God led him to his vocation through surprising ways, from moments of playing Guns N' Roses with his buddies to being grounded for months by his parents. /episode/index/show/about4/id/37045990

Guest: Fr. Joe Tatro 06/16/2025

Guest: Fr. Joe Tatro Today we sit down with Fr. Joe Tatro to discuss his pickleball skills and his training as a mental health professional and how that impacts his ministry as a priest. Finally he shares his vocation story, which might hold the record for shortest amount of time between his decision to enter to arrival at the seminary. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36760330

Sr. Bernadette Rose, LSP 06/09/2025

Sr. Bernadette Rose, LSP Sr. Bernadette Rose of the Little Sisters of the Poor joins us today to share about St. Jeanne Jugan and the founding of her community, the time she met Pope Francis, and the story of her own personal call to give her life as a bride of Christ dedicated to the care and service of the elderly poor. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36691445

Forming Kings 06/02/2025

Forming Kings We go a bit unconventional today and begin with a fierce debate as we draft our favorite kings ever. We conclude by discussing ways we seek to form future priests into "kings" who can be strong leaders who establish culture and unite groups under the mission of Christ and their parish. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36646085

Guest: Fr. Andrew Walsh 05/26/2025

Guest: Fr. Andrew Walsh Fr. Andrew Walsh joins the podcast to defend himself against accusations of grumpiness and to explain his love for both St. Alphonsus Liguori and disc golf before sharing his vocation story. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36569390

Guest: Fr. Michael Kerschen 05/19/2025

Guest: Fr. Michael Kerschen Today Fr. Michael Kerschen joins us to discuss the joys of non-monetary gambling, Fr. Garett's poor medical recommendations, and devastating seminary basketball losses that never go away. We eventually get to his vocation story in which the Lord used a difficult break up to lead him to seminary and ultimately an invitation to freely choose to unite to Jesus as His priest. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36487230

Guest: Fr. Luke Downing 05/12/2025

Guest: Fr. Luke Downing Today we've got Fr. Luke Downing in the studio to talk with us about learning to fly planes, his love for both golf and French cooking before sharing his vocational journey through seminary, in and out of the monastery, and now as a priest of Jesus Christ. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36376440

The Papal Conclave 05/05/2025

The Papal Conclave A special episode today as we join the universal Church in prayer for the Papal Conclave. We seek to shed a little light on the process of electing a new pope and how we can all strike the balance of enjoying the moment with understanding informed by faith, zeal for souls and free of anxiety. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36396570

Being Poor with the Poor 04/28/2025

Being Poor with the Poor Today we began by chatting about what we were up to this past spring break before getting into our observations about a ministry called Christ in the City, which helped to illuminate why it is so important for every Christian disciple, seminarian and priest to have experiences serving and loving the poor. /episode/index/show/about4/id/36282755

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