Attribution with Bob McKinnon
Why do some people make it, while others don’t? How do the facts of our lives differ from our perception of it? And how does our psychology shape how we view ourselves and others? Attribution is, where people from all walks of life, reflect on who and what has contributed to where they ended up. Our hope is after each episode, you feel a little more inspired, grateful, or supported, than when you first hit play.
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Enchantment w/ Katherine May
01/27/2025
Enchantment w/ Katherine May
Katherine May is an internationally renowned writer, podcaster and speaker whose work touches on nature, spirituality, slow living and neurodivergence. Her hybrid memoir Wintering was a global bestseller, adapted as BBC Radio 4’s Book of the Week, and shortlisted for the Porchlight and Barnes & Noble Book of the Year. Her most recent title, Enchantment became an instant New York Times bestseller. We talked about slowing down, Wintering and her most recent book. Enchantment. It was a conversation filled with wonder. I hope you find it as restorative as I did. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Introducing the Social Mobility Lab [Bonus]
12/18/2024
Introducing the Social Mobility Lab [Bonus]
I was thrilled to take part in the launch of the Social Mobility Lab at City College earlier this year. It is an idea that I have been working on for several years and am so grateful to have the opportunity to launch it within the Colin Powell School for Civic and Global Leadership. The purpose of the Lab is to learn what contributes to success in college and beyond and then translate that learning into actionable programs that can improve our students’ chances of a good life. The only reason to study social mobility is to make it a reality for more people. During the launch event, I moderated a panel with three incredible individuals who have “lived the dream.” Their vulnerability and courage in sharing the ups and downs of their climb was so moving and insightful. With their permission, we’re sharing their stories as a bonus episode of Attribution. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Welcoming w/ Rachel Perić
09/11/2024
Welcoming w/ Rachel Perić
Rachel Perić is Executive Director of Welcoming America. Inspired by her family’s refugee story and by the worldwide movement of welcomers, Rachel works to create communities where all residents – including immigrants and refugees – can thrive and belong. We talked about her own personal journey, the important work of her organization and how we as a country are doing to live up to our ideals of welcoming. I hope you enjoy it. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Underdogs w/ Jason Hehir
07/31/2024
Underdogs w/ Jason Hehir
Jason Hehir who is a documentary filmmaker whose subjects have included cultural icons Andre the Giant, Michael Jordan and Elvis Presley among others. We talked about those films and his recent HBO series, Murder in Boston. It was a far ranging conversation touching on topics ranging from race, reckoning with our past and what makes for a successful life. I hope you enjoy it. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Random w/ Mark Rank
04/24/2024
Random w/ Mark Rank
Mark R. Rank is recognized as a foremost expert on issues of poverty, inequality and social justice. To date he has written 10 books on a range of subjects, including an exploration of the American Dream and a new understanding of poverty and inequality. In this episode, I talk to Mark about his latest book, The Random Factor which looks at the role of luck and chance in shaping the course of our lives. It was a fascinating discussion, one I was lucky to have. I I hope you enjoy. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Family w/ Brittany Means
04/10/2024
Family w/ Brittany Means
Brittany Means is author of the critically acclaimed memoir, “Hell if We Don’t Change Our Ways”. Reviews have called it “gut-wrenching and triumphant.” “Readable and rigorous.” “Brutal and beautiful.’ At its heart, it is a book about family. as Means recounts her complex relationships with her mother, father, brother, and grandparents and eventual guardians. What does it mean when those closest to us hurt us? Is understanding or forgiveness even possible? How do children make it through it all to find support and love? This was a particularly moving discussion. I hope you find it of value. Links to learn more about: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Libraries of Belonging | Aging Together in New York | WLIW-FM Special Program
12/22/2023
Libraries of Belonging | Aging Together in New York | WLIW-FM Special Program
In communities across the country, including New York, library budgets and hours are being cut, just at a time when society needs them most. This is in spite of the incredible success that libraries have in bringing people, particularly older adults, together. Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast, talks with Eric Klinenberg, NYU sociologist and author of “Palace for the People” which examines the role that third places like libraries play in avoiding isolation. We’ll also hear from four Long Island librarians who are creating innovative programs for older adults that reduce isolation and build belonging. For more information, please visit: Libraries of Belonging is a WLIW-FM special program that is part of the “Aging Together in New York” initiative from public media stations focusing on social isolation and loneliness among older adults. This program is funded by the New York State Education Department. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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The Checklist | Aging Together in New York | WLIW-FM Special Program
12/21/2023
The Checklist | Aging Together in New York | WLIW-FM Special Program
It is the simplest of tools designed to help us tackle the complexities of life. It helps reduce errors, remember what’s important, assess and reflect on what and how we’re doing. Pilots, astronauts, builders and surgeons use them to save lives. What is this elementary yet powerful tool? A checklist. Is it possible that a simple checklist could do for the growing issue of social isolation among older adults what previous versions have done for saving lives in surgery? Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast , talks to Sandy Markwood, CEO of US Aging, a national association representing and supporting the network of Area Agencies on Aging, and the organization behind the Social Isolation Self-Assessment Checklist to discuss the promise of this tool. At the end of the episode, listeners will have the opportunity to self-assess as we review each of the questions on the checklist. For more information on The Checklist and the resources mentioned in this program, please visit: The Checklist is a WLIW-FM special program that is part of the “Aging Together in New York” initiative from public media stations focusing on social isolation and loneliness among older adults. This program is funded by the New York State Education Department. HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Class w/ Stephanie Land
11/29/2023
Class w/ Stephanie Land
Stephanie Land is the New York Times bestselling author of Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother’s Will to Survive which is now the inspiration for the Netflix series of the same name. Her latest book, Class: A Memoir of Motherhood, Hunger and Higher Education is out now. During our conversation we talked about the challenges and judgment that she and other single moms have faced simply trying to create a better future for themselves and their children. This was an important conversation that I hope will change the way we see and support single mothers. I hope you enjoy. Links to learn more about: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Uneducated w/ Christopher Zara
11/01/2023
Uneducated w/ Christopher Zara
Christopher Zara is the News Editor at Fast Company. His recent memoir, Uneducated, explores his unlikely journey into the newsroom without the credential of a college degree. During our conversation we talked about both his own story but also more broadly about the role of education - higher and otherwise - in creating opportunities to climb the proverbial ladder. Links to learn more about: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Trying w/ Joy Oladokun
09/25/2023
Trying w/ Joy Oladokun
Singer/songwriter Joy Oladokun is a master storyteller whose songs have been listened to over forty million times. Her latest album, Proof of Life is being heralded as her breakthrough. We talked about her journey as an artist and her process of making music that “helps myself and others process this world.” Links to learn more about: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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The Thanksgiving Play w/ Larissa FastHorse
06/05/2023
The Thanksgiving Play w/ Larissa FastHorse
Larissa FastHorse is a 2020 MacArthur Fellow, award winning writer/choreographer, and co-founder of Indigenous Direction, the nation’s leading consulting company for Indigenous arts and audiences. With her latest work, The Thanksgiving Play, she became the first native American to have her play on Broadway. We talked about her journey to Broadway and how we connect with our culture and each other. I hope you enjoy. Links to learn more about: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.
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The Good Life w/ Dr. Robert Waldinger
05/08/2023
The Good Life w/ Dr. Robert Waldinger
Dr. Robert Waldinger, is clinical professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development. He is a practicing psychiatrist and psychoanalyst and also a Zen priest. We discussed his book The Good Life, co-authored with Marc Schulz, the central role of relationships in our life and what can undermine our ability to be socially fit. The conversation will challenge how and with whom you spend your time. I hope you enjoy. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Seeing Erin Hagerty [Bonus]
04/17/2023
Seeing Erin Hagerty [Bonus]
This bonus episode of Attribution, ‘Seeing Erin Hagerty’, was originally broadcast as a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream: Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America, a public media reporting initiative from The WNET Group. Erin Hagerty died last year at the age of 62. By most counts she lived an extraordinary life - simply by doing things many would consider ordinary. This is an examination not of what she did but how she was seen. By strangers, her family and most importantly how she saw herself. “Seeing Erin Hagerty” is a WLIW-FM special program and a part of , a public media initiative The WNET Group, reporting on Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America. Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast , talks with Erin’s mother, her four siblings and documentary filmmaker and activist Dan Habib. Our hope for the next thirty minutes is that you simply see Erin for who she was. Perhaps it will change how you see others too. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Serving Others w/ Richard Buery
02/07/2023
Serving Others w/ Richard Buery
Richard Buery is CEO of Robin Hood, one of the nation’s leading anti-poverty organizations. Prior to this role, Rich had worked as Deputy Mayor of New York, where he was the key architect for the city’s Pre-K for All initiative. In our conversation, we talked about the many ways in which his work has attempted to alleviate scarcity by leveraging the abundant resources around us and his own background has informed his approach to service. I hope you enjoy. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Living in the Light w/ Deepak Chopra
01/30/2023
Living in the Light w/ Deepak Chopra
For the last thirty years, Dr. Deepak Chopra has been at the forefront of the meditation revolution. His 93rd book, Living in the Light written with Sarah Platt-Fingerwith. taps into the ancient Indian practice of Royal Yoga and offers an illuminating program for self-realization, bliss, and wholeness. TIME magazine has described Dr. Chopra as “one of their top 100 most influential people.” In our conversation we talk about this juxtaposition of “being vs. doing”, our journeys to self-realization and what it means to live in the light. While we discussed some heady stuff, it was a free-flowing and down to earth conversation. One I hope you find enlightening. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Biography and Science w/ Brandon Ogbunu
12/12/2022
Biography and Science w/ Brandon Ogbunu
Brandon Ogbunu is Assistant Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. While his research takes place at the intersection of evolutionary biology, genetics, and epidemiology, it all as he says stems from his own biography.His writing appears not just in academic journals but for Wired, The Atlantic and ESPN among other places. This was a deep and far reaching conversation about the intersection of science, identity and the questions we are driven to explore Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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The Great Gatsby: Then and Now [Bonus]
12/05/2022
The Great Gatsby: Then and Now [Bonus]
This bonus episode of Attribution, ‘The Great Gatsby: Then and Now’, was originally broadcast as a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream: Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America, a public media reporting initiative from The WNET Group. “I think that this is our great American novel about class. I think you see it on almost every page.” Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast Attribution, talks with Maureen Corrigan, book critic for NPR’s Fresh and The Nicky and Jamie Grant Distinguished Professor of the Practice in Literary Criticism at Georgetown University. They discuss her book “So We Read On: How The Great Gatsby Came To Be and Why It Endures.” and what The Great Gatsby can still teach us today, 100 years after the events in the novel take place. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Acceptance w/ Emi Nietfeld
11/07/2022
Acceptance w/ Emi Nietfeld
Emi Nietfeld is author of Acceptance: A Memoir. Her essays have appeared in New York Times, Longreads, Vice, and Boulevard. This was an incredibly moving and important conversation - one I hope you’ll listen to in its entirety as the ending is particularly poignant. This episode contains descriptions or mentions of eating disorders, mental health issues, and sexual abuse which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know might be experiencing any of these issues, please reach out to the appropriate local resources/authorities. Here are some national organizations also providing support. Links to learn more about:
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Connecting w/ Dave Eggers
10/10/2022
Connecting w/ Dave Eggers
Dave Eggers is the acclaimed author of thirty books and the co-founder of several non-profit organizations including 826 Valencia and Voice of Witness. We talked about how we connect with each other, the importance of telling our own stories AND amplifying the voices of others. I hope you enjoy Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Seeing w/ Andrea Elliott
08/15/2022
Seeing w/ Andrea Elliott
Andrea Elliott has documented the lives of poor Americans, Muslim immigrants and other people on the margins of power. She is an investigative reporter for The New York Times and the author of Invisible Child, which has won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize in General Nonfiction. Her book and our conversation were eye-opening. I hope it helps you see better too. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Lost & Found w/ Kathryn Schulz
07/25/2022
Lost & Found w/ Kathryn Schulz
Kathryn Schulz is a Pulitzer Prize winning staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error. Her latest book, Lost & Found, is a wonderful and beautiful read. Our conversation touched on topics like life, death, love and loss - helping me see each in a new light. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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Dreaming w/ Darryl McDaniels
05/02/2022
Dreaming w/ Darryl McDaniels
Darryl McDaniels is one of the founding members of the legendary hip hop group Run DMC. He is also the author of two memoirs, a line of comic books and a recent children’s book, Darryl’s Dream. This was an fascinating conversation that touched on many of the struggles that Darryl has faced during his incredible journey. This episode contains descriptions of suicidal ideation, alcoholism and depression, which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know might be considering suicide, please call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-8255. For crisis support in Spanish, call 1-888-628-9454. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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What We Believe w/ Esau McCaulley
03/27/2022
What We Believe w/ Esau McCaulley
The Reverend Dr. Esau McCaulley is an assistant professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and author of Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope.He is also a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, where I came across his essay titled: “I Grew Up Poor. How Am I Supposed to Raise My Middle-Class Kids?” This was a moving and provocative conversation that could have gone on for hours as we discussed issues of struggle, poverty, race and faith. Links to learn more about: Rev. Esau McCaulley, PhD is an associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL. His first book entitled Sharing in the Son’s Inheritance was published by T & T Clark in 2019. His second book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope was published by IVP academic in 2020. It has won numerous awards, including Christianity Today’s book of the year. His first children’s book, Josie Johnson’s Hair and the Holy Spirit, will be published by IVP in May 2022. He is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. His writings have also appeared in places such as Washington Post, The Religious New Service, and Christianity Today. He is married to Mandy, a pediatrician and navy reservist. Together, they have four wonderful children.
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Rich Language w/ Alissa Quart
02/21/2022
Rich Language w/ Alissa Quart
Alissa Quart is Executive director of the Economic Hardship Reporting Project. She is the author of five books of nonfiction, including Squeezed: Why Our Families Can't Afford America, and the forthcoming Bootstrapped: Liberating Ourselves from the American Dream Alissa also writes for the Guardian, the Washington Post, and the New York Times among others. It was a great conversation about the stories we tell, the myths we need to dispel and the role of language in helping people overcome hardship. Links to learn more about: Find out more: HOST Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS. His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life. CREDITS Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream. This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis. Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.
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How Less Leads to More w/ Leidy Klotz
10/25/2021
How Less Leads to More w/ Leidy Klotz
Leidy Klotz is a professor of the University of Virginia who studies how we transform things from how they are to how we want them to be. He has written for The Washington Post, Fast Company, The Globe and Mail, and The Behavioral Scientist. We discussed his latest book, Subtract: The Untapped Science of Less and its many implications both on our personal happiness and as a tool for social change.
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A Tale of Two Teachers [Bonus]
08/23/2021
A Tale of Two Teachers [Bonus]
Bob McKinnon talks with two married Long Island teachers. They share their extraordinary experiences teaching in different Long Island schools over the course of this challenging year.
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Luck or Skill? w/ Maria Konnikova
06/21/2021
Luck or Skill? w/ Maria Konnikova
Maria Konnikova is a New York Times best-selling author, journalist, and professional poker player. Her latest book,The Biggest Bluff, is now out in paperback. It was a fun and fascinating conversation exploring the balance of skill and chance in life. Among the many stories shared was how a chance encounter with a single line in a story she wrote led to my own forthcoming children’s book, Three Little Engines.
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Our Histories w/ Natasha Trethewey
05/10/2021
Our Histories w/ Natasha Trethewey
Natasha Trethewey is a two-time U.S. Poet Laureate and winner of the Pulitzer Prize for her book of poems, Native Guard. Her latest book is Memorial Drive; A Daughter’s Memoir. It was a moving and deeply personal conversation. We talked about the debt we both owe to our mothers and how we examine and reconcile our complicated personal and national histories.
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Dream Hoarding w/ Richard Reeves
03/29/2021
Dream Hoarding w/ Richard Reeves
Richard Reeves is a senior fellow at the Brooking Institution whose research focuses on the middle class, inequality and social mobility. His latest book is Dream Hoarders: How the American Upper Middle Class Is Leaving Everyone Else in the Dust, Why That Is a Problem, and What to Do about It. Our conversation really challenges us all to reconsider our own American Dream story and more importantly what we’re doing to help or hinder the dreams of others.
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