12 x 12 Picture Book Podcast
Podcast for picture book writers by picture books writers with the 12 x 12 Picture Book Writing Challenge founder Julie Hedlund and co-host Kelli Panique www.12x12challenge.com
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037 - Jess Townes
09/17/2026
037 - Jess Townes
The Life of a Ninja Bookseller Not only does Jess Townes write incredible picture books, but she's also a Critique Ninja in the 12 x 12 membership AND she's a buyer at an independent bookstore! Jess joins Julie and Kelli in this podcast episode to chat about tips for revising your manuscript and what she thinks picture book creators need to know about the bookselling side of the children's publishing industry. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Tips Jess gives 12 x 12 members for writing and revising their manuscripts What she looks for when giving critiques How to use real-life interactions can inspire your picture book What it's like to have publishers pitch YOU the books on their list The different ways kids attach to books How she works with her fellow bookseller to choose what they sell in the bookstore What came first: the author or the bookseller How being a bookseller inspires what she writes When booksellers start making purchase decisions for winter holiday sales What happens if your book comes out after the big purchases are made What does it mean when your book is remaindered How important holiday books are to booksellers The advantage of speaking directly to customers What is a shelf-talker and how it helps sell books The importance of author/bookseller relationships When to call a bookstore if you're going to be in the area How to approach a bookstore when you'd like them to carry your book What to do if you want to have an event at a store How this bookstore decides which self-published books to carry If bookstore events sell books What sells more than author events How pre-order campaigns impact independent bookstores Why you should coordinate with a local bookstore when doing author visits at schools and other locations What to take into consideration if you're trying to schedule bookstore events If there is an audience for picture books that aren't attached to popular characters or intellectual property Books mentioned in this episode: by Jess Townes and Nicole Miles by Jess Townes and Jennifer Harney by Jess Townes and Daniel Miyares by Julia Donaldson and Axel Scheffler by Peggy Archer and Gaia Bordicchia by Paige Hulsey (coming soon, illustrator to be announced) by Kari Lavelle by Christy Mandin by Derek Wilder by Christy Webster and Sue Cornelison by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati by Dan Santat by Julie Andrews, Emma Walton Hamilton, and Eva Byrne Links mentioned in this episode: Jess works at in Charleston, Missouri The Kelli mentioned is put on Magic City Books in Tulsa on turning a real-life event into a picture book Find out more about Jess Townes and her books on If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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036 - Miranda Paul has a Secret...
09/10/2026
036 - Miranda Paul has a Secret...
A trade secret, that is... Earlier this year, agent and author Miranda Paul gave a webinar called In this podcast episode, we dive into a few topics not covered in the webinar. (You can now get this outstanding webinar for 25% off! .) Here's what you'll discover in this episode: What information you should pay attention to in those Publishers Weekly announcements What to consider when you notice a trend Why you should follow agents on social media A current gap in the market Why a universal theme is so important How your book can still be commercial—even if it's not high concept Topics that kids need in picture books What makes a book commercial What is Miranda looking for in submissions (when she opens for submissions again) Books mentioned in this episode: by Miranda Paul and Maggie Caton by Caroline L. Perry and Sydney Hanson So You Want to Be a Fossil by Anna Monders and Ryan Middaugh (coming in 2027) by Jacci Gresham, Sherry Fellores, and David Wilkerson by Stephanie V.W. Lucianovic and Gabrielle Grimard by Stephanie V.W. Lucianovic and Laan Cham by Miranda Paul and Elizabeth Zunon by Miranda Paul and Hari and Deepti Links mentioned in this episode: Miranda Paul's for 25% off! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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035 - A Tribute to Jane Yolen
09/03/2026
035 - A Tribute to Jane Yolen
Our dear Jane... The children's writing community lost one of our greats this year when our beloved Jane Yolen passed away. She is not only the author of over 450 books for kids, she is a teacher, mentor, and inspiration to hundreds (thousands?) of writers. She was constantly giving back to this community and we are all better for it. In this episode, Julie shares her personal connection to Jane and different things she learned from Jane over the years. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: How Julie was introduced to Jane Yolen through her books How Julie met Jane (and her daughter Heidi E.Y. Stemple) in person A taste of Jane's poetry and her poetry practice What it was like to attend Jane's Boot Camp and stay in her house What it was like to have her manuscripts critiqued by Jane Julie's trip to Scotland to stay in Jane's house Who Jane defined as a writer How Jane inspired Julie at a low point in her career Jane-isms The origin story of HOW DO DINOSAURS SAY GOODNIGHT? Some of Julie's favorite Jane Yolen books—including those written for adults Excerpts from interviews with Jane Books mentioned in this episode: by Jane Yolen, Andrew Fusek Peters, and Polly Dunbar by Jane Yolen and John Schoenherr by Jane Yolen and Mark Teague by Jane Yolen by Jane Yolen and Gary Lippincott by Julie Hedlund and Michael Slack by Jane Yolen and Melanie Cataldo by Jane Yolen and Brett Helquist by Jane Yolen, Heidi E. Y. Stemple, Kristen Howdeshell, and Kevin Howdeshell by Jane Yolen by Jane Yolen by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Madelyn Goodnight Links mentioned in this episode: Link to Watch the video version of this episode here: If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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034 - 12 x 12 New York Times Bestsellers!
08/27/2026
034 - 12 x 12 New York Times Bestsellers!
What's it like to be a New York Times Bestseller? It's a momentous time for the 12 x 12 membership and so we bring you a momentous podcast episode! During the first week of August 2026, not one but TWO 12 x 12 member books were on the New York Times Bestseller List for Children's Picture Books (August 2, 2026). Considering that any book currently in print from Dr. Seuss. Maurice Sendak, and Margaret Wise Brown to award-winners and everything released this year, it's quite an accomplishment to land on the bestseller list. Congratulations go to 12 x 12 members Kari Lavelle and Michael Benner! Published by Sourcebooks Explore, Kari's nonfiction picture book landed at number 7 after being in print for 3 years. Illustrated by the incredible Alison Hawkins and published by Orchard/Scholastic, Michael's picture book debuted at #1 the week it came out!! Two very exciting journeys starting at two very different places. Today, we hear how these bestsellers came to be! Here's what you'll discover in this episode: How Julie & Kelli found out about TWO members being on the NYT Bestseller List Who helped BUTT OR FACE land on the list What books you're competing with to get on the list The role Michael's publisher played in getting MAC AND CHEESE to the #1 spot How funny books attract sales How YOU can help an author make it on the bestseller list The importance of pre-order sales How supports pre-orders What's a frontlist title vs. a backlist title The surprising ways Michael and Kari found out the news Why BUTT OR FACE doesn't have an illustrator Puns for the win! The origin story of MAC AND CHEESE: THE ORIGIN STORY The different ways a book can find an audience What does it mean to be a publisher's "lead book" How Kari and Michael stay true to themselves when writing What's involved with having a special edition of your book for Barnes & Noble What it was like when Michael saw Alison's illustrations A look at the fun event kits created for MAC & CHEESE What it's like to work on a book that becomes a series and how to balance your creativity between projects The fun of read-alouds What books Kari and Michael wish they would have written Books mentioned in this episode: by Kari Lavelle by Michael Benner and Alison Hawkins by Kari Lavelle and Nabi H. Ali by Kari Lavelle and Bryan Collier by Michael Benner and Alison Hawkins by Tom Lichtenheld and Ezra Fields-Meyer BY Anne Wynter and Micha Archer Links mentioned in this episode: See the video for this episode on Picture Book Summit's If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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033 - What You Need to Know About Press Kits with Kelli Panique
08/20/2026
033 - What You Need to Know About Press Kits with Kelli Panique
What You Need to Know About Author Press Kits Kelli Panique has been working behind-the-scenes at events for creatives for almost 15 years now. As a regular part of her job, she contacts and coordinates with speakers for events and has discovered things you can do to make working with you a breeze. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Why you need an author website—even if you're not published yet What to put on your website if you're not published yet Why hosting a blog can be useful to you as a writer Combining your interviews and reviews with research on the industry The benefit of interviewing authors Ideas for for posting on social media as a pre-published creator What to put on your About Me page Where to put your Press Kit on your website Should your bio be written in first person or third person? Do you need a short bio or a long bio? What kind of photos to have in your press kit How to name your photos The importance of having downloadable book cover images What someone needs from you when they book you for an event Where to put your social media links Where to find a great example of a press kit What a "sell sheet" is and why you might need one A tool to connect with bookstores and schools A few options for making your press kit accessible Links mentioned in this episode: Lisa Stringfellow's - 25% off for podcast listeners Vivian Kirkfield's Susannah Hill's Julie's Picture Book Summit's (Press Kit downloadable in the footer) If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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032 - Turning Real Life Stories into Picture Books with Emma Walton Hamilton
08/13/2026
032 - Turning Real Life Stories into Picture Books with Emma Walton Hamilton
Turn real-life anecdotes into stories Author and independent editor Emma Walton Hamilton shares the story of her latest collaboration with her mother, Julie Andrews. Emma not only chats about the inspiration for SHY, but also how they tweaked the true story of a real-life dog who liked to sing into to a fun, kid-friendly picture book. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: How to take real-life events and turn them into picture books The quirks of the real dog behind the inspiration The connection to her current dog The thread of true story in most of her picture books How pushing the envelope can take the story to the next level Jane Yolen's advice to not let the truth get in the way of a good story Why it's hard to let go of our real-life experiences when writing a story Encouraging kids to have the courage to shine Starting at the ending and working backward in the story Adding kids or child-like characters to make the story kid-friendly How two people can be inspired by the same thing and come up with two very different stories What's next for Emma Links mentioned in this episode: Emma is presenting at this year's event. Get $100 when you register before 8/27/26. created by Emma and Julie to help you create a submission package that will land you a book deal. Get the free training . Books* mentioned in this episode: by Julie Andrews, Emma Walton Hamilton, and Eva Byrne by Julie Andrews, Emma Walton Hamilton, and EG Keller by Julie Andrews, Emma Walton Hamilton, and Elly MacKay by Tonnye Fletcher and Natalia Bruno by Dan Santat Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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031 - Rachel Orr, Tasha Hilderman, and Suzy Levinson
08/06/2026
031 - Rachel Orr, Tasha Hilderman, and Suzy Levinson
The Fun Part of Having an Agent After their 12 x 12 webinar about , agent Rachel Orr and her clients (and 12 x 12 members) Tasha Hilderman and Suzy Levinson stayed for an after-party podcast episode to talk about the fun things about writing and working together. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Unexpected inspiration Why Suzy's mantra is "Follow the fun!" Why it's important to find the writing style that fits you Thinking about what books you read that make you want to write What Rachel loves about the variety projects she reads as an agent When and if you should take trends into account when writing Evergreen themes The importance of writing what you love How Rachel leverages rejections to find out what editors really want Formulaic vs. non-formulaic One of Rachel's favorite writing exercises How Tasha makes her manuscripts less predictable How working within parameters can be freeing The What If Game How Rachel develops submission lists and how much input her clients have in the process Links mentioned in this episode: Get $100 when you register before 8/27/26. with Rachel Orr, Tasha Hilderman, and Suzy Levinson - Get 25% off! Books* mentioned in this episode: by Suzy Levinson and Dustin Harbin by Tasha Hilderman and Maggie Zeng by Tasha Hilderman and Kaly Quarles Gorilla Vanilla by Tasha Hilderman (coming in 2027!) by Suzy Levinson, Kevin Howdeshell, and Kristen Howdeshell Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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030 - Alyssa Reynoso-Morris: Getting the Gig After Party
07/30/2026
030 - Alyssa Reynoso-Morris: Getting the Gig After Party
The ins and outs of author visits As a past 12 x 12 webinar speaker, Alyssa Reynoso-Morris brought us ! A jam-packed webinar with ideas and tools to use to land more speaking gigs and supplement your author income. In today's podcast, we talk about how to get the most bang for your buck as you begin visiting schools and book speaking gigs, funny author visit stories, and more! Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Where to focus your efforts if you're just starting author visits Which events pay the author more Which events sell the most books Alyssa's process for reaching out to bookstores, schools, and conferences How many inquiries she sends per week and how many turn into bookings How many visits she gets from referrals at other events Her experience working with a booking agent How her experience learning to read late in elementary school influences how she writes for kids today How she keeps the read-aloud aspect in mind as she writes Funny stories from school visits Why authors have to diversify their income streams Links mentioned in this episode: 25% off Alyssa's webinar: Alyssa's Books* mentioned in this episode: by Alyssa Reynoso-Morris and Sol Cotti by Alyssa Reynoso-Morris and Doris M Rodríguez-Graber by Alyssa Reynoso-Morris and Mariyah Rahman by Alyssa Reynoso-Morris and Kim Holt by Alyssa Reynoso-Morris (debuting April 2027) by Donna Barba Higuera by Octavia Butler by Andrea Wang and Jason Chin Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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029 - Rainbow Arcs After Party with Daria Peoples
07/23/2026
029 - Rainbow Arcs After Party with Daria Peoples
Do you change your writing or does your writing change you? In early 2026, Daria Peoples gave a webinar about and plotting the internal and external arcs of your story in a way that can save you time in the drafting process and help you see holes in works-in-progress. In this episode, we talk to Daria directly after the presentation, and we dig a little deeper into some of the aspects of the webinar and give each other a little therapy along the way. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: The power of writing—whether you get published or not Writing and illustrating without an audience Creating no matter the outcome How your writing impacts you What happens when a book resonates with your readers The responsibility of writing for children How kids get to the heart of the matter Self-care when writing and illustrating tough topics Making changes based on Daria's plot arc for internal and external emotions How other people around us can see the themes of our work before we do What's next for Daria Links mentioned in this episode: 25% off Daria's webinar: Books* mentioned in this episode: by Daria Peoples by Daria Peoples by Daria Peoples by Julie Hedlund and Susan Eaddy by Daria Peoples Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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028 - Chiara Colombi on Why AI Can't Replace Picture Book Creators
07/16/2026
028 - Chiara Colombi on Why AI Can't Replace Picture Book Creators
What you need to know about AI In 2025, Chiara Colombi gave our most asked-about webinar called "." Chiara works with an AI data privacy firm and was able to break down what we as creatives need to know about this technology to use it wisely and to protect ourselves and our work. Now, a year later, Chiara returns to give us an update about AI and children's publishing—and it's not all bad news! Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Why Chiara is the perfect person to give us insight into AI from a creator's perspective How her writing led her to work in AI Why you should learn about how AI works—even if you never use it What's going on with the Anthropic AI lawsuit How AI is affecting different industries Why there are reasons for hope Publishers want human-created text and art The importance of human translators Discussions about AI at Bologna Market analysis by AI - Yes or no? Using AI in your marketing Publishing contracts and AI AI Detection Tools Used by Publishers Links mentioned in this episode: 25% off Chiara's webinar: from Jane Friedman Books* mentioned in this episode: by Chiara Colombi and Scott Magoon by Chiara Colombi and Scott Magoon by Jamilah Thompkins-Bigelow and Luisa Uribe Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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027 - Kari Lavelle & Lindsay Leslie Team Up for Author Visits
07/09/2026
027 - Kari Lavelle & Lindsay Leslie Team Up for Author Visits
You've got a friend in me! In this episode, Kelli Panique chats with Kari Lavelle (pronounced CAR-EE) and Lindsay Leslie. Their writing friendship began when they were both just starting to write picture books, bloomed as they critiqued each other's work, and continues to blossom as they do author visits together! Could having an author visit partner be the key to your success? Find out how this partnership works in today's episode. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: How they met and when they started writing The role their friendship played when times were tough The number one recommendation they give aspiring writers Why writing friendships are important outside of critique groups The challenge of debuting books and author visits during the pandemic What's a booking agent and how they work Determining the value of your author visit and what to offer Why they started doing author visits together How their visits work even though one writes fiction and the other writes nonfiction How they involve the kids in their presentations What has evolved in their visits over the years The difference between presenting to younger grades versus older grades The surprising preferences of younger readers versus older readers Their tips for reigning in an excited audience Funny things that happened during author visits Their advice for writers just starting with author visits Links mentioned in this episode: Lindsay Leslie on and Find Kari Lavelle on and Books* mentioned in this episode: by Lindsay Leslie and Geeta Ladi by Lindsay Leslie and Aviel Basil by Lindsay Leslie and Ellen Rooney by Kari Lavelle by Kari Lavelle and Nabi H. Ali by Kari Lavelle and Bryan Collier Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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026 - Does Your Picture Book Have Enough Hooks?
07/02/2026
026 - Does Your Picture Book Have Enough Hooks?
Hook, hook, does your book have enough hooks? In this episode, Julie gives an overview of picture book hooks and why they are so important in today's children's publishing market. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: The importance of having multiple hooks in your picture book manuscript The influence of the publishing market on hooks The definition of hooks in picture books Why agents and editors are looking for multiple hooks or entry points The difference between hooks and layers Are agents and editors only looking for high concept books? Kid-facing hooks vs. Adult-facing hooks Different categories of hooks in picture books Julie's at Picture Book Summit 2026 Links mentioned in this episode: Get the 12 x 12 Guide to Picture Book Hooks . Get the 12 x 12 Guide to Layers in Picture Books . Join Julie at the online Picture Book Summit 2026 . Books mentioned in this episode: by Drew Breckmeyer by Lucy Ruth Cummins Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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025 - Debbie Davey's Self-Publishing Journey
06/25/2026
025 - Debbie Davey's Self-Publishing Journey
Author Debbie Davey won a spot on the podcast by donating to Publishing for Minnesota! (Thank you, Debbie!) In this episode, Debbie shares her experience with self-publishing two picture books. Here's what you'll discover in this episode: Why she chose to self-publish What company she used to self-publish How she sold her books Where she found her illustrator Whether or not it's okay to use AI What steps she took to find her writing voice How she funded her books The influence her dad had on her writing How she recouped her investment on her first book What she wants kids to get out of her books Reasons to self-publish vs. pursuing traditional publishing Debbie's advice to writers thinking of self-publishing What she did to get her books in bookstores and libraries How distribution works Her willingness to research and keep learning throughout the publishing process The importance of taking courses Getting feedback and revising The importance of putting the best work out there—whether self-publishing or traditionally publishing Her work in teaching English at Books mentioned in this episode: by Debbie Davey and illustrated by Diana Florescu by Debbie Davey and illustrated by Diana Florescu written and illustrated by Lane Smith Find these books and more in the ! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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024 - Picture Book Summit 2026 Agents & Edtiors
06/18/2026
024 - Picture Book Summit 2026 Agents & Edtiors
The Flintstones meet the Jetsons! It’s our first-ever crossover episode! The 12 x 12 Picture Book Podcast is just one of the hats that Julie Hedlund and Kelli Panique wear. A couple other hats they wear are and the Picture Book Summit Podcast. Picture Book Summit is an annual online writing conference designed specifically for picture book writers and illustrators. Everything takes place online on October 3, 2026. Early Bird Registration is open through August 27, 2026. Today, we’ve invited their fellow PBSummit team members, Emma Walton Hamilton and Katie Davis, to the podcast to talk about our Featured Agent and Featured Editor panels. Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode: What it’s like to get these agents and editors together in one (Zoom) room Tips we’ve learned from critique panels Things that have surprised us in previous agent and editor panels How use the information in these panels to decipher what’s going on in the current picture book market What a slush pile is What an “above-the-slush-pile” opportunity is and how to get one at Picture Book Summit Why you should care about these panels even if you already have an agent How these panels can inform what project you work on next Whether agents and editors like art notes How hearing agents and editors speak helps with your market research The importance of researching agents and editors How attendees influence what we ask our panel members The advantage of having 4 months of Summit replays Exactly how the submission opportunities work in Picture Book Summit What happens if you don’t need submission opportunities right now Whether you should send one manuscript to all the editors and agents Listen to the Picture Book Summit Podcast about the 2026 Superstar Speakers . Listen to the Picture Book Summit Podcast about the 2026 Workshops . Picture Book Summit 2026 takes place online on October 3, 2026. Get your ticket to Picture Book Summit 2026 today! Save $100 with Early Bird Pricing by 8/27/26. If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Thank you for listening!
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023 - Bologna Children's Book Fair
06/11/2026
023 - Bologna Children's Book Fair
This past April, Julie went to Italy (her favorite country) to attend The Bologna Children's Book Fair for the first time in five years. It was fantastico, stupendo, bellissima! While in the land of la dolce vita, Julie roamed the Fair with microphones and talked to other kidlit creators on the scene. Have you ever wondered whether you should attend Bologna? Take a listen and find out! So much inspiration in this episode. Listen in to discover: What the Bologna Book Fair is (and isn't) Why Julie has attended 4 times How to approach the Fair if you go Opportunities at the Fair for illustrators and authors Interview with , Executive Director of SCBWI's presence and activities at the Fair Interview with , illustrator and 12 x 12 Podcast Producer Plus Sara turns the tables on Julie and asks her some questions Interview with 12 x 12 member and SCBWI volunteer SCBWI's brand new Italian chapter Interview with author/illustrator Interview with author/illustrator Vesper Stamper Interview with comics/graphic novel agent Janna Morishima Books mentioned in this episode: , by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati , by Julie Hedlund and Susan Eaddy , by Laura Gehl and Sarah Baker The Ghost Train, by Ross MacKay and Sara Willia , by Selina Alko , by Daniel Nayeri and , by Carlo Collodi Other things to check out: from her 2nd Bologna Trip Grab these books and more from the 12 x 12 Bookshop.org Podcast list . And check out our full list of books by 12 x 12 ANHPI members . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Have questions for us or ideas for future episodes? Leave us a quick voicemail . Not a member of 12 x 12 yet? Join the wait list and get a free gift. Thank you for listening! #kidlit #bolognabookfair #author #illustration
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022 - Lee Wind: Allyship in the Age of Book Banning
06/04/2026
022 - Lee Wind: Allyship in the Age of Book Banning
Author and Independent Book Publishers Association (IBPA) Chief Content Officer has always advocated for books that help marginalized kids and teens, especially those on the LGBTQIA+ spectrum, navigate life. In this episode, he talks about his concerns, recently shared in a , about the chilling effect the current book banning and censorship campaigns are having on queer stories. Listen in to discover: How book banning conversations adopt the language of our opressors Why many teachers and librarians are afraid to bring in diverse books The national book banning bill that is making its way through Congress right now What is happening to school and library sales and how that impacts publishing decisions Finding your champions and keeping hope alive How large vs. smaller publishers promote books differently "Offering" books vs. submitting them How to be an ally How to get books into the hands of kids who need them Lee's upcoming books Overview of (and swag!) Why writing and reading picture books is magical Celebrating Pride Month Books mentioned in this episode: by Lee Wind and Karl West I by Gideon Sterer and Emily Hughes by Lee Wind and Paul O. Zelinsky by Lee Wind and Kelly Mangan by Lee Wind by Lee Wind and Jieting Chan by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati by Justin Richardson & Peter Parnell and Henry Cole Grab these books and more from the 12 x 12 Bookshop.org Podcast list . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening! #kidlit #booktok #author #queerbooksforkids #lgbtqia+books #diversebooks #writingtips #ya #mg #picturebooks #pridemonth
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021 - Celebrating AANHPI Month with Carren Jao
05/28/2026
021 - Celebrating AANHPI Month with Carren Jao
Meet , one of the passionate co-leaders of the 12 x 12 Asian Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander (ANHPI) Affinity Group. was unable to join us for this conversation, but please visit her website, too. Together, these women have created a warm, welcoming, educational "community within the community" in 12 x 12. Not surprisingly, many incredible picture books have been published by members of this group. Listen in to discover: The establishment and purpose of the 12 x 12 Affinity Groups The evolution of the ANHPI Affinity group name and why it's important Carren's background in the arts and journalism, and how that connects to picture book writing How Carren and Ellen came to offer Monthly Mixers to the ANHPI Affinity Group Learning from members about switching agents mid-career Tips on executing "scrappy" book promotion ideas members have shared Carren's upcoming debut picture book, The Shape of Love Books Carren and Julie love for AANHPI month--and every month! Fighting against book bans as a community and as individuals What's next for Carren Books mentioned in this episode: , by Carren Jao and Corinne Caro , by Dazzle Ng and Estrela Lourenço , by Andrea J. Loney and Keith Mallett , by Sylvia Liu and Christina Forshay , by Sylvia Chen and Thai My Phuong , by Julia Kuo and Livia Blackburne , by Minori Tonai and Jolene Gutiérrez, and Chris Sasaki , by Mia Wenjen and Violete Encarnación , by Margaret Chiu Greanias and Tracy Subisak , by Sharon Fujimoto-Johnson , by Jessica Yoon and Seo Kim , by Nancy So Miller , by Eva Wong Nava and Jason Chuang , by Rajani LaRocca and Huy Vuon Lee , by Jyoti Rajan Gopal and Olivia Sua , by Angela Pham Krans and Thi Bui , by Angela Pham Krans and Thai My Phuong by Hope Lim and Qin Leng , by Shruthi Rao and Devika Joglekar , by Shruthi Rao and Srinidhi Srinivasan , by Emmeline Lee and Basia Tran Grab these books and more from the 12 x 12 Bookshop.org Podcast list . And check out our full list of books by 12 x 12 ANHPI members . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Not a member of 12 x 12 yet? Join the wait list and get a free gift. Thank you for listening! #kidlit #booktok #author #AANHPImonth
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020 - Heidi E.Y. Stemple Loves Backmatter
05/21/2026
020 - Heidi E.Y. Stemple Loves Backmatter
Award-winning children's author joins co-hosts Julie and Kelli to celebrate her latest picture book releases and to talk about why backmatter is so important for picture books (and when it's not). Listen in to discover: How Heidi got to 50 published books (and counting) The pressure and privilege of being Jane Yolen's daughter Why Heidi got a tattoo of her mother's signature on her right wrist The definition of picture book backmatter (and frontmatter, and marginalia) Why backmatter should provide an entry back into the book or an exit out The do's and don'ts of crafting backmatter When additional information should go on your website or in a teacher's guide Examples of backmatter from several of Heidi and her mom's books How to decide if your book needs backmatter Why you want your backmatter to match the target age, tone, and style of your book Whether you should write the backmatter upfront or simply give possible ideas Books mentioned in this episode: A Children's Book About Insects by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Yulia Pankratova by Heidi E.Y. Stemple by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Alexandra Colombo by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Madelyn Goodnight by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Emily Paik by Jane Yolen & Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Melissa Sweet Greyling by Jane Yolen and David Ray by Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Annie Gregoire by Jane Yolen & Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Matt Phelan by Becky Scharnhorst and Jaclyn Sinquette by Julie Hedlund and Michael Slack Poems About Animals That Sip, Slurp, Suck by Jane Yolen & Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Eugenia Nobati Poems About Animals That Stink, Stank, Stunk by Jane Yolen & Heidi E.Y. Stemple and Eugenia Nobati by Susan Middleton Elya and Juana Martinez Neal by Kari Lavelle Grab these books and more from the 12 x 12 Bookshop.org Podcast list . Listeners who want more from Heidi on Backmatter can get 25% off her webinar, Backmatter Matters at If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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019 - Jorjeana Marie: Improv for Writers
05/14/2026
019 - Jorjeana Marie: Improv for Writers
Meet stand-up comedian, actress, TV writer, audiobook narrator, and picture book author , here on the 12 x 12 Picture Book Writing Podcast to discuss using improv techniques to write humorous, character-driven picture books. Jorjeana shares her background and why she’s drawn to picture books through character, heart, and humor, then outlines key improv “rules” and games she applies to writing. She talks about her inspiration for writing the book, IMPROV FOR WRITERS, which Julie tested out before this episode. Listen in to discover: What draws someone as accomplished as Jorjeana Marie to 12 x 12 Jorjeana's dedication to writing picture books Why picture books (and all books) are critical for children An overview of the "rules" of Improv and how they can be adapted for writing The benefit of the "Yes, and" game in both improv and writing Why listening and staying present is a crucial piece of the writing puzzle The importance of committing to whatever you are creating Julie's experience playing some of the improv games from the book The difference between writing prompts and improv games How to use improv games to write funny picture books Why the best comedy (and humorous picture books) is layered Jorjeana demonstrating improv techniques live The connection between poetry and improv Books mentioned in this episode: 10 Secrets to Help Novelists and Screenwriters Bypass Writer's Block and Generate Infinite Ideas by Jorjeana Marie by Julie Hedlund and Michael Slack Grab these books and more from the 12 x 12 Bookshop.org Podcast list . Julie is offering listeners 25% off her webinar, . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening! #kidlit #booktok #author #writingtipsforbeginners #writingtips #ya #mg #picturebooks #improv #humor
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018 - Julie Travels Down Under
05/07/2026
018 - Julie Travels Down Under
G'day, Mates! Our fearless leader, Julie Hedlund, recently returned from a month down under in Australia. Of course, there were stunning beaches and beautiful sights to see, but what we really want the tea on are the bookshops, libraries, and other fun literary adventures! (Seriously!) Julie discovered a vibrant book scene in Sydney, and she's ready to dish. Listen in to discover: What took Julie to Australia Who she met while she was there Why we say you're never alone as a 12 x 12 member How submissions to Australian publishers work The differences she noticed between the Australian and the North American kidlit markets Meeting the local SCBWI RA The Library of New South Wales Literary icon Pamela Allen How travel inspires creativity Picture book topics and trends in Australia The interactive Pamela Allen museum exhibit A read-aloud of by Pamela Allen The literary field trip to a winery-restaurant-bookstore Her visit to P.L. Travers' house and the Mary Poppins statue Which American authors' books she saw in Australian bookstores Books by authors mentioned in this episode*: by Pamela Allen by Sheena Garg by Sheena Garg by Susanne Gervay and Marjorie Crosby-Fairall by Susanne Gervay and Anna Pignataro by Mem Fox and Jane Dyer by Mem Fox and Julie Vivas by Mem Fox and Helen Oxenbury by Mem Fox and Leslie Staub by Mem Fox and Ronojoy Ghosh by Mac Barnett and Shawn Harris Special thanks to Karen Henricks, Susanne Gervay, Sheena Garg, and Karen Robertson! If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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017 - Rajani LaRocca: Writing Fueled by Joy
04/30/2026
017 - Rajani LaRocca: Writing Fueled by Joy
Inspired by Joy in Storytelling Newbery Award-Winning Rajani LaRocca shares personal insights into her writing, including when she started writing, when she came back to it, what she loves about writing in different genres, and how joy fuels her creative endeavors. Listen in to discover: The original spark for her picture book SOME OF US The importance of sharing our citizenship stories. Surprising things she learned while writing this book. How kids respond to SOME OF US. Her inspiration for A VACCINE IS LIKE A MEMORY. How she balances her work as a physician with her work as an author. How being in community inspired her to write The struggle to write when times are tough The gift of giving your manuscripts time to sit If Rajani has a favorite among her books The different genres she has written What children say to her about her books Books mentioned in this episode*: by Rajani LaRocca and Huy Voun Lee by Rajani LaRocca and Kathleen Marcottte by Rajani LaRocca and Archana Sreenivasan by Rajani LaRocca and Archana Sreenivasan by Rajani LaRocca and Abhi Alwar by Rajani LaRocca and Abhi Alwar by Rajani LaRocca and Lauren Paige Conrad by Rajani LaRocca by Rajani LaRocca by Leslie Bulion and Mike Lowery by Rajani LaRocca and Sayan Mukherjee by Rajani LaRocca and Cindy Derby by Rajani LaRocca Get special deals on Rajani's past 12 x 12 webinars: Get them both in a If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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016 - Keila Dawson: No Poem Too Small
04/23/2026
016 - Keila Dawson: No Poem Too Small
Keila V. Dawson has partnered with fellow creatives Jeanette Bradley and Lindsay Metcalf to tell the stories of young activists through the power of poetry. No Voice Too Small, No World Too Big, and No Brain The Same feature kids and teens making a difference for our planet. Keila and her team picked a different poet to celebrate this extraordinary individuals and the results are incredibly moving. (And we learned so many new things!) A poem may seem like a quiet way to express oneself, but in the hands of these talented writers, the poems in this series of books speak up in ways you won’t forget any time soon. Listen in to discover: Where the original idea for these poetry anthologies came from The influence her work as an educator, activist, and genealogist had on this project How they sold the first book on proposal The process used for matching poets to their subjects in each book How they ended up with different types of poems in each book The design of each page and it houses the poem, a sidebar of more biographical information, and a quote from each subject The types of backmatter included—from a glossary to types of poems to author bios Additional facts the illustrations provide How the sequels came to be What they hope kids get out of these books A peek at a poem in the newest book in the series How to be included in a poem anthology Poetry resources Poetry practice How Keila came to write a poem for the second book The difference between a poem and a picture book Books mentioned in this episode*: edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley by Keila V. Dawson and Vernon Smith by Keila V. Dawson and Katie Crumpton by Keila V. Dawson and Alleanna Harris Coming in the future: How We Got Here: Conversation with United States History and Annbelle’s Beignet Cafe, a sequel to Yumbo Gumbo by Cori Doerrfeld Get 25% off Janet Wong’s Poetry in Picture Books webinar . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening! Not a member of 12 x 12 yet? Join the wait list and get a free gift. *At no additional cost to you, 12 x 12 may earn a commission on books published through the links in this post. (Links go to Bookshop.org when available.)
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015 - Michelle Cusolito: In the World of Nonfiction
04/16/2026
015 - Michelle Cusolito: In the World of Nonfiction
Write what you love Michelle Cusolito's love for writing nonfiction picture books is palpable and, we dare say, contagious. In this episode, she generously shares her process, where her ideas have come from, and how she follows the muse—even when she's on deadline for a different project. No matter what you write, Michelle's interview is a good reminder to write what you love... because that's when the passion shines through. Listen in to discover: Why Michelle is drawn to writing about the ocean How she came to write a latest picture book about trees (that aren't in the ocean!) The information she gives to her illustrators (and what she leaves out) How she researches her books The importance of experiencing things firsthand when she's writing about a topic Her recommendations to writers who can't travel to do in-person research Where science is happening (Hint: it might be closer than you think!) How she organizes her research Her love of notebooks and working analog-style The beauty of spare text How was inspired by a real-life event What made her stop everything to write the first draft How the 12 x 12 Creativity Book Group works How to handle critiques How she was able to go on a weeks-long expedition with to do research for her books Why it's important to make genuine connections as a writer Books mentioned in this episode*: by Michelle Cusolito and Jessica Lanan by Michelle Cusolito and Nicole Wong by Michelle Cusolito and Nicole Wong by Michelle Cusolito by Michelle Cusolito and Ellen Rooney by Michelle Cusolito and Mayra Wright by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati by Kirsten W. Larson by Candace Fleming and Eric Rohmann Get 25% off Michelle Cusolito's Rigorous Research webinar (co-presented with Charlesbridge editor Karen Boss) here: Please note: There is a change in the sound level about halfway through the podcast. We've adjusted it as much as we can. We apologize for any inconvenience while listening. If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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014 - Lisa Rogers - Poetry and Picture Book Biographies
04/09/2026
014 - Lisa Rogers - Poetry and Picture Book Biographies
Where Picture Book Biographies and Poetry Come Together The National Poetry Month celebration continues! 12 x 12 charter member, poet, and author Lisa Rogers shares how poetry comes into play when writing picture books—even picture book biographies. In this episode, you'll discover: What it's like to be a poet and write a picture book about a poet How she finds the emotional throughline in her stories Why she's drawn to writing about creative people The impact of writing her John Cage book in second person Why she writes picture book biographies Why she didn't give up writing picture books The steps she took to stay committed to the writing craft How she determines the stories she's meant to write Why reading and writing poetry helps with writing picture books How word choice influences her writing choices The importance of creating mental images in your stories How sounds influence her word choice Books mentioned in this episode*: by Lisa Rogers and Chuck Groenink by Lisa Rogers and Il Sung Na by Lisa Rogers and Stacy Innerst by Lisa Rogers and Susan Reagan by Lisa Rogers and Meg Ishihara by Valerie Worth and Natalie Babbitt by Kari Lavelle and Bryan Collier Get the 12 x 12 Poetry Playbook for Picture Book Writers HERE: https://12x12challenge.com/poetryplaybook If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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013 - Renee La Tulippe - Passionate About Poetry
04/07/2026
013 - Renee La Tulippe - Passionate About Poetry
Let's celebrate poetry! Welcome to National Poetry Month! We begin the celebration with one of our favorite poets AND poetry teachers, author Renee LaTulippe. Renee shares why she loves poetry and how, over her career, she's worked to help others understand and use poetry techniques in their own work. In this episode, you'll discover: How Renee helped set our 12 x 12 poetry elves up for success Why Renee is so passionate about poetry What is so appealing about free verse How to make poetry exciting for anyone Enjoying poems vs. determining their symbolism What should your readers take away from your work What she loves about the craft of writing What she sets out to do (and not do) with her poetry The definition of "common measure" How she went from writing poetry anthologies to a poetry picture book to a poetry graphic novel Ways could be used in Drama and English classes. The difference between a poem, an anthology of poetry in picture book form, and a poem picture book What she's working on now Renee LaTulippe's books*: by Renee LaTulippe and Cécile Metzger by Renee LaTulippe and Chuck Gonzales Whether you adore poetry or you're afraid of it, you're bound to be inspired by this episode. Resources mentioned in this episode: Renee LaTulippe's Writing Lyrical and Rhyming Picture Books Bundle is now available for 25% off Renee's Lyrical Language Lab Renee's Story Lark Road Curriculum Get the free poetry download . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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012 - Ask a Bookseller After-Party with Julie Rowan Zoch
03/26/2026
012 - Ask a Bookseller After-Party with Julie Rowan Zoch
What does a bookseller want book creators to know? Welcome to our first After-Party! After-parties will be a semi-regular feature on the 12 x 12 Picture Book Podcast, where we'll take some time after a 12 x 12 webinar to dive a little deeper into something the speaker talked about or maybe ask a few questions we didn't get to during the live webinar. Our first after-party guest is author-illustrator and bookseller Julie Rowan-Zoch. Her recent webinar, "," is available to the public now! (Podcast listeners get 25% off! .) In the webinar, Julie shared how booksellers choose books to include in their inventory, what they want book creators to know, and how you can increase your chances of booking an event—even giving us a sneak peek at their behind-the-scenes software. In this after-party, we discuss what to actually say to a bookseller when trying to book an event or pre-order campaign, and more! In this episode, you'll discover: How to approach a bookseller about hosting an event How pre-order campaigns work How far in advance should you try to schedule in-person events and pre-order campaigns How to set up a book event when you're traveling Dates and times to NOT schedule your events Do's and Don'ts of using social media to connect with bookstores How a little kindness can go a long way Julie Rowan-Zoch's books*: written by Omar Abed and illustrated by Julie Rowan-Zoch written and illustrated by Julie Rowan-Zoch written by Richard T. Morris and illustrated by Julie Rowan-Zoch by Tom Lichtenheld and illustrated by Julie Rowan-Zoch by Bobby Moynihan and illustrated by Julie Rowan-Zoch (Year-by-Year Books) by Karla Oceanak and Julie Rowan-Zoch (Year-by-Year Books) by Karla Oceanak and Julie Rowan-Zoch (Year-by-Year Books) by Karla Oceanak and Julie Rowan-Zoch Julie Rowan-Zoch's "Ask a Bookseller" webinar is now available for 25% off . The bookstore Julie Rowan-Zoch talks about in this episode is . Not a 12 x 12 member yet? Join the newsletter to find our upcoming free events, scholarships, and sales. If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening! *At no additional cost to you, 12 x 12 may earn a commission on books published through the links in this post. (Links go to Bookshop.org when available.)
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011 - Marcie Colleen: Writing Graphic Novels for Young Readers
03/19/2026
011 - Marcie Colleen: Writing Graphic Novels for Young Readers
Why would a picture book author write a graphic novel? Why not? Author (and Charter ) Marcie Colleen shares how curiosity (and the willingness to say yes) led her to reach beyond picture books and into the world of chapter books—and most recently, graphic novels for young readers. Marcie shares her journey to writing graphic novels (even though she's not an illustrator) and what she discovered about the similarities and differences between writing picture books and graphic novels. Plus, Marcie tells us all about her new 6-week graphic novel writing course: Listen to the podcast now as Julie and Marcie reflect on friendship, writing, comics, and so much more. In this episode, you'll discover: The importance of writing friends in your writing life Where a love of storytelling and curiosity can lead Why she's written all types of kidlit from picture books to chapter books to graphic novels for young readers How to sign up for Marcie's six-week The similarities and differences between writing picture books and graphic novels for young readers Why the graphic novel market is so rich right now Can you write a graphic novel if you can't draw? The challenges for illustrators of graphic novels Marcie's newest graphic novel (coming in 2027) How she began writing graphic novels The different ways advances and royalties work with different graphic novel publishers The difference between art notes in picture books and graphic novels Why reading is such an important tool in your writing toolbox The importance of finding your style How the 6-week graphic novel course is set up week-by-week Marcie's role as Dance Captain in the (including playlists!) Books mentioned: by Marcie Colleen by Marcie Colleen and Bob Shea by Marcie Colleen and Aaron Becker by Marcie Colleen by Marcie Colleen and Laura Sandoval Herrera by Marcie Colleen by Marcie Colleen, Stephanie Cooke, Steven Scott, Nick Murphy, Paul Ritchey, and Chad Thomas by Colleen AF Venable, Marcie Colleen, and Ellen Stubbings by Colleen AF Venable, Marcie Colleen, and Ellen Stubbings by Matthew Cody, Colleen AF Venable, Marcie Colleen, and Chad Thomas by Marcie Colleen, Stephanie Cooke, Nick Murphy, Paul Ritchey, and Eduardo Medeiros by Karen Schneemann and Lily Williams by Karen Schneemann and Lily Williams (the follow-up to Go with the Flow) If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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010 - A New Perspective with Kelli Panique
03/12/2026
010 - A New Perspective with Kelli Panique
What's the silver lining of having a broken arm? While Julie is away, Kelli will play! Kelli is taking over the podcast today. And, just like writing, an idea starts in one place, and then life smacks you down, and you have to head in a different direction. She didn't intend to break her arm/shoulder and do an episode about it, but when life gives you lemons, make lemon drop martinis! You'll discover: How Kelli broke her arm (and still made her flight!) The good and bad of breaking your dominant hand Praise for lefties! The importance of learning something new How to apply this to writing (It all connects, we promise!) Ideas for changing up your writing routine The benefits of finding a new perspective The importance of finding a critique group The pros of adding a new critique partner Type-written vs. hand-written first drafts A challenge to write in a different genre The growth that comes along with changing things up If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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009 - Caroline Perry: The Most Interesting Story
03/05/2026
009 - Caroline Perry: The Most Interesting Story
In celebration of Women's History Month, Julie Hedlund interviews author Caroline Perry and they discuss their picture book biographies of two extraordinary women: Queen Elizabeth II and Julie Andrews. What led them to write about such famous people? What were the challenges of writing about a person who's still alive? What do they wish they had known when they started writing picture book bios? Find out in today's episode. You'll discover: What inspired their individual picture book bios What it's like to write about a living person How dogs played a role in both stories The surprising things they learned in their research How kids can relate to these stories about well-known adults The intersections of their stories Caroline's marketing efforts The pressure of writing about a person everyone knows How Caroline's book changed in the second edition after the Queen passed away Finding the emotional throughline Finding the North Star of the story Writing a story vs. writing a list of accomplishments How rejections about a real person hit different What makes you stop working on a potential bio The importance of telling women's stories that have been hidden in history Books mentioned in this episode: by Caroline L. Perry and Lydia Corry by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati by Caroline L. Perry and Luciano Lozano by Caroline L. Perry and Jennifer Bricking by Caroline L. Perry and Sydney Hanson by Caroline L. Perry and Sydney Hanson by Ame Dyckman and Charles Santoso Find out more about Caroline: If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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008 - Marzieh Abbas: Teach Yourself to Write Picture Books
02/26/2026
008 - Marzieh Abbas: Teach Yourself to Write Picture Books
Julie Hedlund and Kelli Panique enjoy a delightful conversation with author Marzieh Abbas. Marzieh has over 40 published books for kids, from board books to middle grade. In our discussion, she elaborates on her journey from professional baker to award-winning author. Marzieh's story is so inspirational. Come be inspired to create your own successful writing journey. You'll discover: How 12 x 12 played a pivotal role in Marzieh becoming a multi-published author Why she chooses to publish in the US market while she lives in Pakistan How she was inspired to write for children The challenge of being a writer without access to public libraries or bookstores How she studied mentor texts to learn to write picture books Writing Muslim books for Muslim kids vs. sharing the experiences of Muslim children with a mainstream audience Why finding joy in the publishing process is crucial What it is like to write a picture book bio of a living person The importance of being in a community that gets what you're trying to do Books mentioned in this episode: by Marzieh Abbas and Anu Chouhan by Marzieh Abbas and Hoda Hadadi by Marzieh Abbas by Marzieh Abbas and Anain Shaikh by Drew Daywalt and Oliver Jeffers by Malala Yousafzai and Kerascoët by Marzieh Abbas and Anu Chouhan ! by Marzieh Abbas and Bhagya Madanasinghe by Marzieh Abbas Ali and Najwa Awatiff by Marzieh Abbas and Anoosha Syed by Marzieh Abbas and Anoosha Syed by Marzieh Abbas and Anoosha Syed by Valerie Bolling and Kaylani Juanita by Valerie Bolling and Kaylani Juanita by Rukhana Khan and Sophie Blackall Get 25% off Marzieh Abbas’s webinar Mentor Text Your Way to Picture Books that POP! . Join Marzieh's Substack . If you enjoy the podcast, please like, subscribe, and review so other kidlit writers can find us! Thank you for listening!
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