Backpacker Radio
From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking. Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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8 Epic Shorter Thru-Hikes: the Long Trail, Teton Crest Trail, and More (BPR #339)
01/05/2026
8 Epic Shorter Thru-Hikes: the Long Trail, Teton Crest Trail, and More (BPR #339)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are talking “shorter” thru-hikes. We’re joined again by our guy, Michael Grizzly Ivey, to give you an overview of eight standout US thru-hikes that you can hike in four weeks or less. We cover the Long Trail, Teton Crest Trail, Superior HIking Trail, Timberline Trail, Tahoe Rim Trail, Foothills Trail, and Uinta Highline, give you the trail overviews, relative difficulty, resupply strategy, the best time to hike, which direction, travel logistics, permit requirements, resupply strategy, standout wildlife, water availability, and our overall 30-second elevator pitch for each trail. Much like my waistline, your bucket list is about to expand. We wrap the show with tips for getting primo service at any restaurant (from a restaurant general manager), the triple crown of birds, and we prove that we will read just about anything in a 5-star review. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKWINTER15” at . [divider] Panel with Michael “Grizzly” Ivey Time stamps & Questions 00:07:30 - Reminders: , , , , and ! 00:13:00 - Introducing Grizzly 00:15:50 - What have you been up to since you were last on the podcast? 00:18:20 - Long Trail 00:29:00 - Ozark Highlands Trail (Learn more from and ) 00:41:15 - Superior Hiking Trail 00:56:20 - Tahoe Rim Trail (Learn more from ) 01:11:40 - Foothills Trail (Learn more from ) 01:24:20 - Uinta Highline Trail 01:36:20 - Timberline Trail 01:44:12 - Teton Crest Trail (Learn more from ) 02:04:20 - What’s your top performance enhancing hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Jordan Charbonneau QOTD: What are some tips to getting the best treatment possible when eating out? Triple Crown of birds Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Adventure Alan on High Routes, the Evolution of Ultralight, and Maintaining Health & Fitness (BPR #338)
12/29/2025
Adventure Alan on High Routes, the Evolution of Ultralight, and Maintaining Health & Fitness (BPR #338)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Alan Dixon, better known in the backpacking world as Adventure Alan. Alan is a literal rocket scientist, a lifelong adventure junkie, and a foundational figure in the early days of ultralight backpacking, having co-founded Backpacking Light. Alan shares some jaw dropping stories from his many routes, including a near-death experience in the Tetons, his philosophy for developing routes—most notably his popular Wind River High Route, the South Sierra High Route, and the Escalante Overland Route. We dig into how he’s managed to bring his base weight down to as low as 2.4 lb., the small luxuries he now allows himself, some of his favorite cottage brands, and his overarching gear philosophies. We also talk about why he follows a ketogenic diet and how he maintains it on trail, his adventures with his wife of more than 20 years, and much more. We wrap the show with the triple crown of gifts for backpackers ($75 or less), a hill that we're willing to die on that everyone else thinks is ridiculous, some new AT stamps that have been out for a long time, and I talk fast. Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . [divider] Interview with Alan Dixon Time stamps & Questions 00:02:00 - Reminders: , , , and ! 00:06:49 - Introducing Alan 00:07:30 - So you’re a rocket scientist? 00:10:55 - What did you do for the EPA? 00:17:13 - What are the top sources for toxicity in food? 00:23:00 - Are there any chemicals in the backpacking world you’re skeptical of? 00:25:06 - What was your earliest mountaineering experience? 00:26:40 - Discussion about the current state of ultralight 00:29:45 - What ultralight products do you get? 00:31:40 - How did you get to a baseweight under 5 pounds? 00:39:30 - Do you recommend tracking your sleep? 00:44:55 - Why do you follow a keto diet? 00:49:52 - How do you maintain a keto diet on trail? 00;53:30 - Tell us about the early days of ultralight 00:58:50 - Why did you want to spread the gospel of ultralight? 01:03:20 - Discussion about the fiddle-factor 01:09:00 - What’s your standard gear list now? 01:10:47 - Do you have practical tips for reducing fiddle time? 01:13:07 - Tell us about your trip in the Wind River Range 01:19:00 - Do you have a luxury item today? 01:20:04 - Tell us about selling your website 01:21:55 - What goes into designing a high route? 01:24:40 - Sell us on the Adventure Alan Wind River High Route 01:28:30 - Do you consider high routes to be more of a physical or intellectual challenge? 01:32:05 - Discussion about anxiety while hiking 01:34:45 - Tell us about adventuring with your wife 01:39:09 - Do you have any general marriage advice? 01:42:10 - How do you maintain your fitness into your 60s? 01:46:40 - Discussion about the definition of success 01:51:55 - What’s something novel that you’re excited about right now? 01:54:49 - Tell us about the Southern Sierra High Route 01:59:20 - Define “it goes” 02:00:05 - Tell us about the Escalante Overland Route 02:06:04 - Are you fully retired now? 02:07:00 - Discussion about fitness and training 02:09:50 - Tell us about the Southern Patagonia Ice Shelf 02:19:00 - Are you able to enjoy a regular trail? 02:22:10 - Tell us your near death experience in the Tetons 02:35:45 - Are you still making content? Segments Trek Propaganda by Katie Jackson by Katie Jackson By Livvy Weld QOTD: What’s a hill you’ll die on that everyone else thinks is ridiculous? Triple Crown of gifts for backpackers ($75 or less) Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Girl Stuff 4.0: Disordered Eating, Chronic Illness, PCOS, and Waxing (BPR #337)
12/22/2025
Girl Stuff 4.0: Disordered Eating, Chronic Illness, PCOS, and Waxing (BPR #337)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, I’m sitting this one out because it’s the fourth edition of Girl’s Stuff. Chaunce is joined by former guest Christine Reed and BPR first-timer Maggie Schoemann. The three cover hiking with a partner, where to get a vag wax on trail, birth control, weird body changes, including managing a beard on trail as a woman, eating disorders and how thru-hiking can trigger or resurface disordered eating (trigger warning), and much more. These are Chaunce’s notes, so I’m just going to assume they’re all accurate. We wrap the show with Chaunce's take on the new Diddy doc and the triple crown of the worst parts of the holidays. Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . [divider] Panel with Chaunce, Maggie, and Christine Time stamps & Questions 00:03:50 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:08:45 - Introducing Maggie and Christine 00:13:26 - What is it like to do your first thru-hike while your partner finishes their Triple Crown? 00:22:30 - Discussion about making friends while thru-hiking in a couple 00:26:00 - What type of reaction did you get on the PCT? 00:32:14 - How was the Long Trail? 00:34:44 - What’s it like to hike a trail that sucks with a platonic friend? 00:43:30 - Tell us about your chronic illness 00:48:30 - What specific foods did you mail yourself on the Long Trail? 00:52:35 - Discussion about PCOS 01:01:10 - Discussion about period cycles 01:09:40 - Discussion about nutrition and PCOS 01:20:00 - Discussion about PCOS and weight 01:29:50 - Trigger warning: disordered eating and body image 01:37:00 - Discussion about how thru-hiking intersects with disordered eating 02:18:20 - End trigger warning: discussion about getting waxed on trail 02:30:00 - Who determines what’s cool on trail? 02:35:00 - Discussion about the evolution of women on trail 02:45:00 - Discussion about influencers on trail 02:54:00 - Recommend names of female influencers Segments Trek Propaganda by Kelly Floro QOTD: Have you seen the Diddy documentary? Triple Crown of the worst parts of the holidays Listener Voicemail Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Jess "Stitches" Guo, the First Woman to Connect the CDT and GDT in a Calendar Year (BPR #336)
12/15/2025
Jess "Stitches" Guo, the First Woman to Connect the CDT and GDT in a Calendar Year (BPR #336)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Jessica Guo known on trail as Stitches. This year, Stitches became the first woman on record to connect both the Continental Divide Trail and Great Divide Trail northbound in one calendar year. We talk all about this logistically and physically impressive feat, hiking through the Sierra during a record snow year, how she earned her trail name the hard way, her unconventional relationship with pain, how 10 her day silent meditations better prepare her for thru-hiking and gives us a sample 2 minute meditation, what it was like becoming social media famous this year- going from less than 2K followers to 50K, and much more. We wrap the show with a call for Trek Vloggers, a breakdown of how hard the Long Trail is as measured by Katie's steps per mile, apparently some people can smell ants, and the triple crown of peanut butter combinations. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Jessica “Stitches” Guo Time stamps & Questions 00:05:00 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:11:47 - Introducing Stitches 00:14:15 - What is your background? 00:20:00 - Scenario: If Zach & Chaunce are fighting, how would you help them work through it? 00:22:25 - How did you get into the outdoors? 00:30:15 - Were you an athlete when you were younger? 00:31:35 - How did you like the Teton Crest Trail? 00:32:40 - Tell us about getting started on the PCT and your injury 00:40:20 - What did it feel like to walk on your injured leg after 8 days? 00:48:35 - What does your meditation practice look like? 00:55:50 - What does a silent meditation retreat look like? 00:58:05 - Are there purists in the meditation world? 01:03:00 - Stitches leads a guided meditation 01:08:20 - Tell us about your second injury on the PCT 01:20:55 - Was the Sierra Type 1 fun for you? 01:21:30 - Tell us your fun story from the Colorado Trail 01:26:20 - Where did the idea come from for the CDT + GDT? 01:32:50 - Why can it be nice to have a detailed itinerary and plan? 01:38:10 - If someone’s interested in the GDT, what advice would you give? 01:40:20 - What were the differences between your three itineraries? 01:42:10 - Would a silent retreat be a good way to mentally train for a thru-hike? 01:44:15 - What are some standout moments from the CDT? 01:47:38 - What are you afraid of? 01:51:10 - How did your experience change when you got a ton of followers? 01:55:55 - Tell us more about making videos on trail 01:59:00 - Discussion about evidence of climate change on trail 02:00:05 - Tell us about how you interacted with your ethnicity on trail 02:08:22 - Tell us about your post on women in the outdoors 02:14:20 - Tell us about your friction video 02:16:00 - What were the highlights of the GDT? 02:19:00 - Did you have any practices for when you felt mentally low? 02:22:45 - Tell us about the birds you saw 02:27:15 - What are your Big 5 for gear? 02:34:15 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your hottest take in the world of backpacking? 02:39:30 - Where can people go to keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda by Katie Jackson by Anna McKinney Smith QOTD: Can you smell ants? Infection Thing of the Week Triple Crown of peanut butter combos Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Walking the Length of the Americas: Culture Shocks, Risk Mitigation, and Her Security Dog with Lucy Barnard (BPR #335)
12/08/2025
Walking the Length of the Americas: Culture Shocks, Risk Mitigation, and Her Security Dog with Lucy Barnard (BPR #335)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we’re joined by Lucy Barnard. Lucy, along with her pup Wombat, has walked from the southern tip of Argentina all the way through the Great Divide Trail in Canada, and she’ll be picking up the final leg of this monster journey — through northern Canada and into Alaska — later this winter. We get into what compelled Lucy to take on such an audacious mission, especially given that she had virtually zero long-distance hiking experience beforehand. She shares some truly wild stories from the trail, including being held at gunpoint by cartel members, what it’s been like navigating this trek with a dog in tow, the extra hoops that come with that, the overwhelming kindness she’s encountered from strangers along the way, and plenty more. We wrap the show by highlighting a 140-mile in Portugal that belongs on your bucket list, how a thru-hiker staple might be giving us all mercury poisoning, movies we definitely don't recommend, the triple crown of embarrassing foods, and the lazy person's guide to making your own dehydrated meals. Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Lucy Barnard Time stamps & Questions 00:3:00 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:07:10 - Introducing Lucy 00:10:00 - High Low Buffalo 00:14:40 - Discussion about nutrition 00:16:34 - How do you resupply Wombat’s food? 00:18:45 - How did you get Wombat? 00:23:35 - Is Wombat a good security dog? 00:41:16 - What is your concern about sharing stories about risky times? 00:47:00 - Did you consider quitting the trail after that? 00:50:20 - Discussion about culture shock and language expressions 00:53:03 - What were you doing before this hike? 01:02:00 - What was your hiking and traveling experience prior to this hike? 01:06:20 - Were you nervous when you started the trip? 01:09:05 - What created your desire to do this? 01:14:00 - Discussion about people from other countries interested in hiking in the US 01:19:07 - Discussion about deworming 01:21:30 - What is in Wombat’s first aid kit? 01:23:30 - Do you have a standout animal encounter story? 01:30:20 - How much of the trip is a logistical puzzle versus physical challenge? 01:33:50 - How have you managed family and friend relationships during this hike? 01:38:20 - What is celebrity and fame like in Australia? 01:42:30 - Why do you think this journey is going slower than you expected? 01:49:15 - How do you balance accepting good advice with not getting overwhelmed? 01:52:40 - Tell us about your overall route thus far 01:56:00 - Discussion about Lucy’s navigation app 01:58:15 - What due diligence do you do ahead of time to make sure you stay safe? 02:02:00 - Lucy’s stories about providing trail magic 02:04:50 - Tell us more stories about being integrated with the locals 02:13:25 - Tell us about Wombat getting sick from eating crabs on the desert 02:15:08 - Tell us about the Great Divide Trail 02:20:15 - What was your hardest day on this experience? 02:26:30 - How can listeners support your journey? 02:27:20 - What is the future of the journey going to be like? 02:35:00 - Where can people go to keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda: for The Trek by Chickpea By James Townsend by JT Simmons QOTD: What are movies you definitely don’t recommend to people? Triple Crown of embarrassing foods Listener Voicemail Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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A Marine Corps Veteran on Hiking to Heal from PTSD and Reclaim His Peace, ft. Gabe "Wing It" Vasquez (BPR #334)
12/01/2025
A Marine Corps Veteran on Hiking to Heal from PTSD and Reclaim His Peace, ft. Gabe "Wing It" Vasquez (BPR #334)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we’re joined by Gabe Vasquez, known on trail as “Wing It.” Gabe is a U.S. Marine Corps combat veteran, long-distance kayaker and cyclist, and the first known Mexican-American to complete the Triple Crown. Gabe opens up about his time in the Marines and the challenges that followed- PTSD, becoming addicted to prescription meds to manage the PTSD in addition to anxiety and depression, losing friends to suicide after their service, and night terrors. In his efforts to heal, Gabe turned to adventure. He began by paddling the Mississippi with a friend, then took on a PCT thru-hike, followed by eight consecutive years of long-distance backpacking, paddling, and cycling. Gabe shares how that time in nature helped him reclaim his peace, and why he’s happier today than he’s ever been. Worth noting- this episode includes graphic descriptions of PTSD and suicide. If these topics are sensitive or triggering for you, please take care while listening. We wrap the show with news of a pair of fatal bear attacks near the Ozark Highlands Trail, a partially blind grandmother who thru-hiked the PCT- averaging nearly 40 miles a day in the process, the definitive etiquette around holding doors for strangers, and the triple crown of the worst phrases and expressions. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . [divider] Interview with Gabe “Wing It” Vasquez Time stamps & Questions 00:05:20 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:12:45 - Introducing Gabe 00:16:10 - What was it like to join the Marines? 00:22:45 - What was your specific job like in the Marines? 00:23:30 - Tell us about your deployments 00:29:20 - What was the vibe like in that sort of environment? 00:33:37 - Did you know you were actively pushing things down at the time? 00:35:06 - What was the comedown like when returning from a deployment? 00:36:40 - At what point did you seek professional help? 00:38:30 - How did the PTSD show up for you? 00:42:35 - How did you know you needed to get off the meds? 00:49:30 - How did you transition from experiencing these symptoms to advocating for others? 00:56:04 - How did you decide to kayak the Mississippi River? 00:59:20 - Did you feel a sense of accomplishment after the kayak trip? 01:09:20 - Did you go into the PCT excited to hike it? 01:13:20 - At what point did being in nature start to click for you? 01:14:45 - Knowing what you know now, would you still have joined the Marines? 01:17:22 - At what point did the nightmares subside or improve? 01:20:00 - Have you met other veterans on trail? 01:22:40 - Do you have a lot of people reaching out to you? 01:25:00 - Is the period between adventures extra tough for you? 01:26:30 - Are you trying to do all Seven Summits? 01:27:55 - Was it weird with the PCT being so white? 01:36:15 - Do you have favorite summit music? 01:37:26 - What are some of your favorite trail angel stories? 01:40:00 - What’s a typical MRE meal like? 01:41:30 - What drew you to the bike after the PCT? 01:46:30 - What are the pros and cons of long distance cycling over thru-hiking? 01:50:50 - Fuck Marry Kill: cycling, paddling, and hiking 01:54:10 - What did it feel like to complete the Triple Crown? 01:58:00 - Discussion about LNT 01:59:20 - What other hot takes do you have? 02:05:20 - What other gear do you like? 02:10:16 - Tell us about almost getting arrested in Egypt 02:19:05 - Do you worry that drugs could trigger PTSD? 02:26:00 - What’s your favorite trail or trail story? 02:28:35 - Do unrealistic war movies bother you? 02:30:55 - Stay Salty Question: What’s one piece of advice you’d like to give? Segments Trek Propaganda by JT Simmons by Katie Jackson QOTD: What’s the proper distance to hold a door for someone? Triple Crown of the worst expressions/phrases Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Wander Women Kristy and Annette on Retiring to Thru-Hike, RV, and Adventure Full-time (BPR #333)
11/24/2025
Wander Women Kristy and Annette on Retiring to Thru-Hike, RV, and Adventure Full-time (BPR #333)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we’re joined by Kristy and Annette Burns—better known as the Wander Women. About seven years ago, Kristy and Annette ditched the home with the white picket fence, retired, moved into an RV, and shifted their focus to a life centered on freedom and adventure. Since then, they’ve taken on the AT, PCT, CDT, Arizona Trail, Tahoe Rim Trail, the O Circuit, plus a slew of cycling and packrafting trips. We get into what it takes to keep your body ready for thru-hikes at retirement age, why downsizing has made them so much happier, the community they’ve found on trail, and a whole lot more. We wrap the show with what to wear when hiking in the desert, how to dry the inside of your water bladder, and the triple crown of chairs. Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . [divider] Interview with Kristy and Annette Burns Time stamps & Questions 00:02:45 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:05:06 - Introducing the Wander Women 00:07:00 - How did each of you get into the outdoors? 00:09:44 - How did you two meet? 00:12:20 - How did you go from the sweat lodge to thru-hiking? 00:16:50 - Did you have physical fitness top of mind before getting into thru-hiking? 00:19:05 - How far prior to retirement did you plan to hike? 00:22:55 - What specifically would you do differently, financially? 00:26:25 - What was it like downsizing? 00:31:30 - What physical activity do you do in the RV? 00:36:04 - Do you ever get sick of each other? 00:38:55 - How do you handle difficulties in your relationship? 00:41:00 - Did you know there’d be other retired folks on the AT? 00:45:17 - How have you expanded your social networks in retirement? 00:48:35 - What are some of the common questions you get? 00:50:03 - How do you slowly ramp up your mileage when hiking? 00:51:52 - Describe your gear to us 00:57:40 - Was it easy to transition between RVing and thru-hiking? 01:01:15 - Do you feel like time has slowed down since you retired? 01:10:45 - At what point did you reach this mindset? 01:12:40 - Are you particular with your nutrition? 01:16:20 - Standout stories from the AT? 01:19:35 - At what point did you know you were going to Triple Crown? 01:23:35 - Did you know what you were getting into with the CDT? 01:30:11 - How many other CDT hikers did you encounter? 01:34:50 - Tell us about flip flopping the PCT 01:38:46 - What were your spookiest or scariest moments on trail? 01:49:23 - When did you start getting the Youtube fanfare? 01:50:30 - What’s the best trail magic you’ve gotten? 01:53:10 - Tell us about the adventures outside of thru-hiking 01:57:14 - Tell us about your rafting trip in Alaska 02:02:50 - Tell us about your encounter with a grizzly bear 02:10:30 - How did you decide where to camp? 02:13:00 - What were the biggest gear differences for this trip? 02:16:15 - What adventures does the future hold? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: How does one dry out the inside of their water bladder when you're done using it? Triple Crown of chairs Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Casey "Vegas" Huffman on His WILD Trail Name Origin Story, Reinventing Himself through Hiking, and an Expedition in Alaska (BPR #332)
11/17/2025
Casey "Vegas" Huffman on His WILD Trail Name Origin Story, Reinventing Himself through Hiking, and an Expedition in Alaska (BPR #332)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Casey Huffman, known on trail as Vegas. Vegas has been mentioned a couple of times on this podcast in the past, as “the guy whose chest we signed” in 2023, and more recently, “the guy whose ass we signed”. As we learn in today’s episode, “signed ass guy” is also a real good hang. We chat about how Vegas’ mental health struggles ultimately lead him to the trail, how the hiking community and culture gave him the space to reinvent himself, and he shares quite possibly the most entertaining trail name origin story we’ve ever heard- we’ll just say that this one is for adults only. We wrap the show with discussing the merits of a sleeping bag liner, Chaunce is pissed about the cost of fountain soda, we do the triple crown of donuts, and Rachel once again lands a perfectly apropos listener mail bag. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . Zpacks: Use code BPR50 for $50 off any tent at . Ka’Chava: Use code BACKPACKER for 15% off at . [divider] Interview with Casey “Vegas” Huffman Time stamps & Questions 00:05:00 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:07:15 - Introducing Vegas 00:09:30 - How did you get into the outdoors? 00:16:01 - What was inpatient treatment like? 00:19:30 - What was life like after you left inpatient? 00:21:00 - What led to you getting on medication as a child? 00:22:45 - Tell us the story about your tattoos 00:24:25 - Walk us through the first part of the AT 00:28:40 - Tell us your trail name origin story 00:47:00 - Discussion about Vegas’ reputation on trail 00:47:45 - How was getting off the trail for you? 00:53:15 - What was it about thru-hiking that let you shift your mind into a better place? 00:58:43 - Did you feel like it was a struggle to get to Katahdin? 01:00:00 - What did you know your future life would look like at the end of the trail? 01:07:30 - Tell us about running into a cult 01:12:45 - What did you do after the AT? 01:18:30 - Tell us about your expedition in Alaska 01:28:06 - Tell us about the Sheltowee Trace 01:32:45 - Tell us about the Ozark Highlands Trail 01:41:20 - At what point did you know you were going to hike the PCT? 01:55:20 - Discussion about hiking in the Sierra 01:58:40 - Vegas’s story about hiking on acid 02:10:30 - Tell us about hiking the Long Trail after the PCT 02:17:20 - Vegas’s subsequent sex worker stories 02:21:10 - What are your favorite next plans? 02:21:54 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your hot take in the world of backpacking? Segments Trek Propaganda by Anna McKinney Smith By Katie Jackson QOTD: Since when is fountain soda no longer free refills? Triple Crown of donuts Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Triple Crowning with a Trombone, Working as a Hiking Guide, and the South Dakota Centennial Trail with Amy "Slider" Hunsucker
11/10/2025
Triple Crowning with a Trombone, Working as a Hiking Guide, and the South Dakota Centennial Trail with Amy "Slider" Hunsucker
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Amy Hunsucker. On trail, Amy is known as “Slider” because she hikes with a trombone- something she’s done for the entire triple crown. We of course learn all about this fun quirk, including which animals were most appreciative of her on-trail concerts, which parts of trail provided the best acoustics, the reactions she’d get from other hikers and the broader trail community, and her go-to on-trail trombone jams. Slider also gives us the low down on getting her sawyer certification, her trail maintenance work with the Carolina Mountain Club, hiking South Dakota’s Centennial Trail, and life as a hiking guide in North Carolina. We wrap the show with the pieces of thru-hiking advice we wish we'd never given, Chaunce gives her take of whether she'd rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear, we do the triple crown of freezer foods, I give a one-minute gear review of my current rain jacket, and a listener lectures us on how we dropped the ball on our interview with Liz Kidder. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKWINTER15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . [divider] Interview with Amy Hunsucker Time stamps & Questions 00:04:50 - QOTD: What’s more upsetting, the Bills’ loss or losing your ceremony footage? 00:06:40 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:11:00 - Introducing Amy 00:11:34 - How did you get your trail name? 00:12:12 - How do you find an ultralight trombone? 00:14:40 - Give us the background on playing the trombone 00:18:55 - Did you learn new songs as you hiked? 00:22:40 - Have you ever used your trombone for anything other than music? 00:24:30 - How did you get into backpacking? 00:27:50 - What was starting the AT like? 00:30:54 - Why don’t you think your trombone is a luxury item? 00:31:48 - Is there a GOAT of the trombone world? 00:36:10 - Tell us about getting onto the CDT 00:37:30 - What’s your hot take on the PCT? 00:42:50 - Why’d you decide to go southbound on the CDT? 00:45:15 - Why’d you decide to flip flop the PCT? 00:52:15 - How did you keep up your mindset during the flip flop? 00:53:55 - What was your best day on trail? 00:56:10 - What was your worst day on trail? 00:57:40 - What was your scariest day on trail? 01:00:02 - What was your stupidest day on trail? 01:02:45 - Tell us about working for Blue Ridge Hiking Company 01:10:40 - What was being in Asheville like during the hurricane? 01:17:12 - Tell us about getting your Sawyer certification 01:20:30 - What’s chainsaw 101? 01:23:20 - Tell us about the South Dakota Centennial Trail 01:28:05 - Would this be a good trail to do using PTO? 01:30:54 - Peak Performance Question: What’s your top performance-enhancing hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear? Triple Crown of freezer foods One-Minute Gear Review Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Triple Crowning with Stage 4 Cancer with Jeff "Long Strides" Vonvai (BPR #330)
11/03/2025
Triple Crowning with Stage 4 Cancer with Jeff "Long Strides" Vonvai (BPR #330)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we’re joined by Jeff Vonvai, known on trail as Long Strides. This conversation will put life’s problems into perspective—because for the past seven years, Long Strides has been thru-hiking with stage 4 colon cancer, despite being given just a 3–6 month prognosis. Jeff shares what it’s like to balance intense rounds of chemo and surgery between hikes, the challenges of rebuilding his trail legs each time he returns to the trail, and how cancer has transformed his outlook on life—saying he’s happier now than he was before his diagnosis. Be ready to feel inspired. We wrap the show with the news that the Continental Divide Trail’s southern terminus now requires U.S. citizenship and an Army-issued permit, how to hike the Colorado Trail on less than $800, what crime Chaunce committed to wind up in prison, and the triple crown of things that make us cringe. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Jeff “Long Strides” Vonvai Time stamps & Questions 00:05:00 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:07:15 - Introducing Long Strides 00:09:41 - How did you go from Arizona to thru-hiking? 00:12:10 - Describe what it was like to get your diagnosis 00:19:50 - How do you maintain your mindset? 00:22:10 - What do your doctors think about your thru-hiking? 00:24:50 - When does poop start smelling like poop? 00:28:21 - What is the main goal of the surgery? 00:30:25 - Walk us through the timespan between surgery and your next hike 00:34:00 - Tell us about starting the AT a couple weeks after finishing chemo 00:37:25 - Did things get easier after that internal dialogue? 00:40:10 - Is it possible hiking makes anything worse? 00:41:45 - Discussion about hiking the PCT and getting surgery before the CDT 00:45:00 - Are you sharing things with your tramilies? 00:48:35 - Do you have any practices you maintain while hiking? 00:51:20 - How has your mindset changed since your diagnosis 00:53:05 - Discussion about going between the PCT and CDT 00:55:45 - Why did you decide to go southbound on the CDT? 00:56:55 - What’s the buzz on the trail with the southern terminus? 01:02:04 - How has the CDT compared to the other two for you? 01:09:30 - Fuck Marry Kill: AT, PCT, CDT 01:11:30 - Discussion about Long Strides’ future plans 01:15:35 - Have people met up with you along the trails? 01:16:30 - Tell us about seeing moose 01:18:02 - Are you looking forward to New Mexico? 01:18:55 - What do you have planned between 2025 and 2028? 01:21:05 - Do you have any advice for someone who’s gotten a recent diagnosis? 01:23:05 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors? 01:25:10 - How’d you get your trail name? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: If I got arrested, what crime would you assume I committed? Crisis Thing of the Week Triple Crown of things that make you cringe Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Musings on AI, Bikepacking, Past Girlfriends, Horse Facts, and Living Forever with Kenneth "Moron" Pararo (BPR #329)
10/27/2025
Musings on AI, Bikepacking, Past Girlfriends, Horse Facts, and Living Forever with Kenneth "Moron" Pararo (BPR #329)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Kenneth Pararo, known on trail as Moron. This is a podcast we’ve been wanting to make happen for several years now, and let me tell you, it does not disappoint. Moron is a thru-hiker, long-distance cyclist, philosopher, hopeless romantic, futurist, and most importantly, just a real solid hang. We learn about why he’s all in on AI- as evidenced by him riding cross country rocking his Meta AI glasses, why he quit is corporate tech job to more permanently pursue adventure and experience, how he completed one AT thru-hike and quit another a couple hundred miles from the finish, turning it into an extended road walk to the Canadian border, only to turn around for some more road walking and eventually an extended bike ride, and how he plans his adventuring essentially one day at a time, letting fate largely guide his next move. We wrap the show with tips for safe and steamy tent sex, a contentious debate about using gas station bathrooms exclusively for a year for one million dollars, and the triple crown of people we just don't understand. Gossamer Gear: Check out the Type II collection at . Sawyer Products: Check out Sawyer’s Cnoc collab at . [divider] Interview with Kenneth “Moron” Pararo Time stamps & Questions 00:04:12 - , , and ! 00:09:45 - Introducing Moron 00:11:28 - Tell us about getting sober 00:17:14 - Discussion about sleeping behind a pit toilet in Golden 00:19:05 - What are you up to right now? 00:21:40 - How do you pick roads to bike on? 00:24:40 - Who isn’t Moron? 00:29:00 - Discussion about Moron’s past girlfriends 00:34:20 - Has nature always been more noise than signal for you? 00:36:25 - Did you start the AT with any preconceived notion about how you’d feel about it spiritually? 00:37:50 - How do you pick what trails and routes you do? 00:40:15 - Where are the best cafes? 00:41:15 - What was your former profession? 00:47:20 - What are your thoughts about AI? 00:52:40 - Would you want to live forever? 00:55:30 - How do you stay comfortable on a bike? 00:57:00 - What are the benefits of bikepacking over hiking? 00:58:55 - How do you decide where to camp each night? 01:02:00 - Discussion about Moron’s AI glasses 01:07:30 - Do you worry about any of the negative consequences of AI? 01:11:15 - Do you worry about the affordability of AI? 01:19:45 - How will AI influence nature and ecosystems? 01:23:30 - Let’s talk about the Florida Trail! 01:29:40 - You’ve carried your bike while hiking? 01:30:30 - Why is your bike so heavy? 01:33:10 - Tell us about Trail Correspondents 01:37:45 - Do you like the sound of your own voice? Do you have tips for producing audio? 01:42:40 - What are your tips for making something interesting out of monotony? 01:45:50 - Tell us about working on a horse farm 01:50:30 - Have you held onto horse culture since? 01:52:10 - Horse Facts: Give us some rapid fire horse facts 01:56:24 - Tell us about biking through a winter storm 01:59:00 - Discussion about Moron’s future biking plans 02:03:40 - Gossamer Gear Question: What’s your number one irrational fear? 02:05:15 - Where can people keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Redacted QOTD: You get one million dollars per year but you can only use gas station bathrooms Triple Crown of people you don’t understand (ex. morning people) Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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The First Female Hotshot Firefighters, Culture in the 1980s, and the Bigfoot Trail with Mary "Fireweed" Kwart (BPR #328)
10/20/2025
The First Female Hotshot Firefighters, Culture in the 1980s, and the Bigfoot Trail with Mary "Fireweed" Kwart (BPR #328)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, and brought to you by Topo Athletic, we’re joined by Mary “Fireweed” Kwart. Fireweed is a thru-hiker, a Deadhead, and a pioneering figure in wildland firefighting with a career spanning more than 30 years. We dive into the challenges of being one of the first women to join the elite Arrowhead Interagency Hotshots, the culture shock of entering a male-dominated field, and some of the most memorable stories from her decades on the fire line. Fireweed also reflects on how long-distance hiking has evolved since the 1970s, her tradition of tackling a new long trail every year since retiring, and her deep love and advocacy for California’s Bigfoot Trail. We wrap the show with the best backpacking trails in the Midwest, the thru-hiking advice we wish we’d never given, a debate over whether robotic legs should count as mechanical transport under the Wilderness Act, and the Triple Crown of parts of society we’d turn the clock back for. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKFALL15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ka’Chava: Use code “BACKPACKER” for 15% off at . [divider] Interview with Mary “Fireweed” Kwart Time stamps & Questions 00:04:55 - and ! 00:07:00 - Introducing Fireweed 00:08:30 - Why were you a nontraditional college graduate? 00:11:40 - What was your inspiration for aligning with the feminist movement? 00:13:30 - Discussion about being the only woman in male-dominated spaces 00:16:46 - Tell us about hiking a section of the PCT in the 70s 00:18:20 - What was it like working in Yosemite in the 70s 00:23:50 - Discussion about being a Deadhead 00:25:50 - How were women being treated in general? 00:30:45 - How did you pass the heartbeat challenge? 00:32:45 - Discussion about gear differences between now and then 00:36:50 - At what point did you discover the hard-ass aspect of your personality? 00:43:25 - How did you keep spirits high while working as a firefighter? 00:46:55 - What was the culture of firefighters like? 00:52:00 - Do you have advice for women who want to get into firefighting? 00:54:34 - What was your best day on the job? 00:58:40 - Discussion about the rest of Fireweed’s firefighting career 01:00:45 - What kind of schooling would you recommend for someone interested in this career? 01:02:35 - What’s your take on the current situation in the Forest Service? 01:10:40 - Discussion about the state of wildfires today 01:15:30 - Tell us about your thru-hikes since retiring 01:20:30 - Discussion about getting shingles and recovering 01:23:50 - Do you have any other tips for older hikers? 01:28:50 - Tell us about the Bigfoot Trail 01:33:30 - Do you have tips for identifying trees along the Bigfoot Trail? 01:37:00 - What was your Bigfoot encounter? 01:40:02 - Do you believe in Bigfoot? 01:44:00 - Tell us about getting attacked by a bear dog 01:48:45 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson by Katie Jackson QOTD: Would robotic legs count as mechanical transport through the wilderness? Triple Crown of parts of society we would turn the clock back on Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Zach Hiked the Tour du Mont Blanc and Chaunce Got Married! (BPR #327)
10/13/2025
Zach Hiked the Tour du Mont Blanc and Chaunce Got Married! (BPR #327)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by me. Because I hiked Tour du Mont Blanc. We go through all the nitty gritty details of my trip, including how I decided on going with a self-guided tour (aka staying in hotels instead of camping), the differences across the French, Italian, and Swiss portions of the trail, the best towns, the landscape highlights, the crowds, the food, how my knees asked for a divorce from my body, and everything else. But wait, there’s more. Chaunce is fresh off her wedding and honeymoon, she gives us the full scoop of her month of nuptials and romance. We wrap the show maturely by covering how many poops in a day is too many poops, my business pitch for selling farts online, the triple crown of wedding traditions, I share some new gear that I got to test on TMB, and listeners share their top TMB tips- including how I did it all wrong. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ombraz: Send a DM on or to for $30 off at . [divider] Interview with Zach! Time stamps & Questions 00:04:55 - , , and ! 00:13:05 - Introducing Zach 00:13:45 - Trail difficulty 00:16:40 - Tour du Mont Blanc Fast Facts 00:17:40 - What prep work did you have to do for the hike? 00:20:00 - More discussion about the self-guided hike option 00:22:30 - How much does the self-guided hike option cost? 00:26:30 - How did you pack and what bag did you bring? 00:30:50 - What was in your pack? 00:33:20 - Did you carry food in your pack? 00:35:00 - Discussion about the navigation app issue 00:39:30 - Discussion about daily pace and difficulty 00:42:30 - Discussion about crowding on the trail 00:47:20 - Journeying to the trail 00:51:00 - Day 1 00:57:20 - What makes this mountain range different from others? 01:01:00 - Day 2 01:08:40 - Day 3 01:22:50 - Day 4 01:36:10 - Day 5 01:51:30 - What wildlife did you see? 02:01:40 - Were you ready to be done by the last day? 02:02:50 - What were the top 3 towns to zero in? 02:05:30 - Zach got recognized! 02:07:30 - Would you have done the trail in a different direction? 02:12:00 - Closing thoughts 02:14:30 - Would you have trained differently? 02:15:15 - Wedding recap 02:26:30 - Honeymoon recap Segments QOTD: How many poops in a day is too many? Triple Crown of wedding traditions One-Minute Gear Reviews Listener Voicemail Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jason Kiser, Krystyn Bell, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Thru-Hiking 11,000+ Miles Together with Chris and Sara, aka Endless and QB (BPR #326)
10/06/2025
Thru-Hiking 11,000+ Miles Together with Chris and Sara, aka Endless and QB (BPR #326)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by thru-hiking power couple who’ve hiked more than 11,000 miles together Chris and Sara, known on trail as Endless and QB. “What haven’t they hiked?” is a fair question, because it’s been a lot, including the AT, the PCT (twice), CDT, CT (twice), Arizona Trail, Manaslu Circuit, Hayduke, Long Trail, Cohos Trail, Loowit Trail, Wonderland Trail, Ruby Crest Trail, Why-wash, (ahl-pah-MY-oh) / Santa Cruz Trek, the GR20, and more, believe it or not. They share the story of how they met, offer tips for making a marriage work both on trail and off, discuss how they befriended Mac from Halfway Anywhere and Viking during their many trail adventures, and explain why rafting the Grand Canyon stands out as the most epic adventure of them all. We wrap the show with news of the asshat who vandalized the Katahdin sign, the triple crown of seafoods, and definitively answer the age old question of window vs. aisle. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Chris & Sara aka Endless & QB Time stamps & Questions 00:05:00 - and ! 00:09:10 - Introducing Endless & QB 00:15:55 - We Love Love: Where did you meet? 00:21:20 - Tell us about getting together on the CDT 00:23:55 - What’s it like to be a firefighter? 00:29:11 - What are some standout firefighter stories? 00:32:15 - Would you recommend being a firefighter to others? 00:35:35 - Is it difficult to align both of your schedules? 00:36:30 - When did you know you wanted to hike more trails together? 00:37:50 - When did you meet Jabba? 00:39:50 - How did you meet Twinkle and Grace? 00:43:36 - Any stories from the AZT? 00:45:40 - Tell us about Nepal 00:51:36 - Tell us about getting married at a pool party 00:56:10 - Tell us about your road trip in 2018 00:58:00 - Discussion about their speed of hiking 01:02:15 - How many miles have each of you hiked? 01:03:40 - What do you disagree about on trail? 01:05:15 - Was it hard to transition to an off-trail relationship? 01:10:50 - Discussion about knee surgery 01:11:56 - Tell us about your honeymoon roadtrip 01:14:55 - Tell us about hiking in the Sawtooths 01:16:50 - Tell us about the Loowit Trail 01:19:20 - Discussion about trail running and transitioning from thru-hiking 01:24:15 - Tell us about backpacking in the Wallowa Mountains 01:25:40 - How do you divvy up tasks in the backcountry? 01:28:30 - Tell us about the rest of the 2020 road trip 01:32:50 - How did you decide to hike the PCT a second time? 01:34:20 - Tell us about rafting the Grand Canyon 01:43:45 - Tell us about your hikes in Peru 01:46:40 - Why’d you get off the Oregon Desert Trail? 01:48:40 - Tell us about your hiking in Europe 01:59:15 - Did you dirtbag the whole time in Europe? 02:01:10 - Are you looking to do more international hiking? 02:01:45 - What’s your top 5 travel bucket list? 02:04:00 - Are you thinking about having kids? 02:05:30 - How was your recent hike of the CT? 02:06:45 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Kelly Floro QOTD: Window or aisle? Triple Crown of seafoods Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Vancouver Island Trails, PCT Pie Record, and Canadian Culture with Spencer "Boiler" Dunn (BPR #325)
09/29/2025
Vancouver Island Trails, PCT Pie Record, and Canadian Culture with Spencer "Boiler" Dunn (BPR #325)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Spencer “Boiler” Dunn. Boiler, is a self-described “pro-yapper”, improv leader, former employee of Parks Canada, pie enthusiast, and of course, a backpacker. Spencer takes us through his long trail adventures across Canada, including the Bruce Trail, West Coast Trail, North Coast Trail, and Nootka Island Trail—journeys that brought him face-to-face with some incredible wildlife, from bears to whales to the elusive sea wolf. We also dive into his recent hike on the PCT—how he broke the record for pies per mile, the notoriety that earned him on trail, navigating people’s perceptions as a plus-sized hiker, how his trek deepened his connection to his queer identity, and, of course, his unapologetic hatred for gear talk (which I make him do). We wrap the show with news on New Zealand’s most famous thru-hike getting a whole lot pricier, tackle the age-old question of which liquids we’d want to dispense from our fingers, we do the Triple Crown of tummy aches, and hear a listener’s compelling pitch for taking this circus to the Pacific Northwest. Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. [divider] Interview with Spencer “Boiler” Dunn Time stamps & Questions 00:03:00 - , , and ! 00:06:25 - Introducing Boiler 00:08:50 - How did you get your trail name? 00:10:20 - What’s your outdoors origin story? 00:12:30 - What is Parks Canada? 00:15:40 - What’s the difference between national parks in the US and Canada? 00:17:10 - What is the outdoors culture like in Canada? 00:20:15 - Is there a community around the Bruce Trail? 00:23:10 - Do you think there’s a hunger for more long trails in Canada? 00:25:00 - How did you end up on the PCT? 00:26:00 - What gear did you start with? 00:32:00 - Discussion about Boiler’s PCT hike 00:32:53 - Tell us about making pies on the PCT 00:41:55 - What was your favorite town? 00:43:20 - More pie talk 00:45:38 - Discussion about being a fatter hiker 00:56:50 - Do you have any advice for someone who wants to follow in your footsteps? 00:58:45 - Discussion about differences between men and women on the trail 01:01:10 - Did you have any uncomfortable situations on trail? 01:06:50 - Do you feel more or less of a stigma in Canada? 01:09:12 - Life on trail as a BNOT 01:12:01 - Did you ever put yourself in a situation for the story? 01:14:17 - Discussion about being a BNOT 01:15:30 - Tell us about your hiking on Vancouver Island 01:24:55 - Discussion about campsites on Vancouver Island 01:26:45 - Tell us about seeing wolves 01:32:40 - Fuck Marry Kill: The West Coast Trail, North Coast Trail, and Nootka Trail 01:35:05 - How do the 3 trails compare to each other? 01:40:25 - Differences between Americans and Canadians 02:04:00 - Where can people keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Lisa Slutsken QOTD: If you could dispense different liquids from each finger on one hand, which liquids would you choose? Triple Crown of tummy aches Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Fighting a Grizzly Bear and Leaving the Mormon Church with Wesley "Megaman" Tils (BPR #324)
09/22/2025
Fighting a Grizzly Bear and Leaving the Mormon Church with Wesley "Megaman" Tils (BPR #324)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Wesley Tils, known on trail as Megaman. Buckle in because oh boy does Megaman have an origin story. After growing up in the Mormon church, leaving the church to become a pro boxer, quitting boxing to give the church another shot and going on a missionary trip as his trial of faith, and ultimately leaving the church for good during this missionary trip, escaping onto the PCT with several church members essentially chasing him in pursuit, Megaman’s path to thru-hiking was not exactly conventional. Since hitting the trails, Megaman hasn’t stopped hiking, accumulating more than 15,000 miles across 18 long trails in 9 years. We learn about all his adventures, including hikes of the Maah Daah Hey Trail, River to River Trail, his self-made Mexico to Canada Trail called “the fourth crown route, and a goosebump inducing story about an aggressive encounter with a grizzly bear on the CDT. We wrap up the show with our one-minute elevator pitch to convince aliens that humanity deserves to survive, the triple crown of cable channels, share the news of Tara Dower’s latest FKT, and deliver a five-minute one-minute gear review of a new free-standing tent from Hyperlite Mountain Gear. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKFALL15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Wesley “Megaman” Tils Time stamps & Questions 00:05:35 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:07:30 - Introducing Megaman 00:08:20 - Tell us about your religious upbringing 00:11:30 - Do you ever experience anger while boxing? 00:12:40 - Why did you decide to leave the church? 00:15:25 - How did people react when you left the church? 00:18:02 - What was your mission like? 00:26:00 - How did your family feel about your decision? 00:27:30 - What did your kit look like for your first 200 miles on the PCT? 00:28:29 - How did you go from the PCT to the AT? 00:32:40 - What’s your relationship with spirituality and religion now? 00:35:25 - What’s your trail name origin story? 00:36:45 - Discussion about Megaman’s time on the trail 00:38:30 - When did you know you’d keep thru-hiking? 00:40:20 - How was hiking through the Sierra in a high snow year? 00:45:00 - How was the CDT in 2018? 00:52:20 - Do you remember feeling an adrenaline rush? 00:54:35 - Tell us about the Black Hills/Great Plains Route 00:56:25 - You did the Triple O? 00:57:50 - Tell us about the Maah Daah Hey Trail 01:00:30 - Tell us about the evolution of your gear 01:02:45 - Tell us about your Fourth Crown Route 01:06:00 - What was the most difficult part of the route for you? 01:10:50 - What is the whole route like? 01:17:20 - Is it jarring to come back to society after the Fourth Crown Route? 01:18:10 - What’s the coolest thing you’ve found as an archeologist? 01:20:21 - How do you make your hikes work financially? 01:23:00 - What is the River to River Trail like? 01:24:15 - Tell us about the Ruby Crest Trail 01:25:15 - Tell us about the Mojave-Sonoran Trail 01:26:00 - How was the Hayduke? 01:27:35 - How do you recommend thru-hiking cheaply? 01:29:28 - Trail Superlatives 01:32:20 - What’s your hiking plan for 2026? 01:35:05 - What’s your plan to document your hike? 01:37:30 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: Aliens give you 60 seconds to convince them humanity deserves to be saved and you can only show them two items - what would they be? Triple Crown of cable channels One-Minute Gear Reviews Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Jeff Oliver aka IBTAT on Sober Triple Crowning, The Scottish National Trail, and Kungsleden Trail (BPR #323)
09/15/2025
Jeff Oliver aka IBTAT on Sober Triple Crowning, The Scottish National Trail, and Kungsleden Trail (BPR #323)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek brought to you by LMNT, we’re joined by Jeff Oliver, better known on trail and online as IBTAT. In addition to building a large following on YouTube and Instagram, IBTAT will be a familiar voice to long-time Backpacker Radio listeners, as he was part of our first season of Trail Correspondents. We dive into IBTAT’s story, including his journey to 12 years of sobriety — going from drinking two fifths of liquor a day to cutting alcohol cold turkey overnight, and the dangerous side effects that followed. We also cover his more than 11,000 miles of trekking over the past seven years, including hikes of the Triple Crown trails, the Scottish National Trail, the C&O Canal Towpath, and Sweden’s Kungsleden Trail. Lastly, being a talented photographer and videographer, IBTAT shares expert advice on choosing the right camera and capturing quality photos and video during your hikes. Sassafras, Double Dip and I wrap the show with a call for this year’s AT thru-hikers to take the 2025 Appalachian Trail Survey, we opine on what the AT will look like in 2035 (and look back at how it’s changed over the past decade), we find the precise point at which a walk becomes a hike, Sass and Katie share how they got started in the Outdoor Industry (providing advice and inspiration for those who want to follow in their tracks), and we do the Triple Crown of cooking tips and hacks. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at .Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at .Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. [divider] Interview with Jeff “IBTAT” Oliver Time stamps & Questions 00:06:00 - Reminders: , take the 2025 AT Thru-Hiker survey, and ! 00:08:05 - Introducing IBTAT 00:11:15 - When did you start partying? 00:12:25 - Discussion about getting sober 00:16:35 - What was your outdoors experience prior to the AT? 00:19:15 - When did you start videography and photography? 00:22:15 - Are there differences in your audience across different mediums? 00:25:00 - At what point did thru-hiking click for you? 00:27:18 - How did you take to the AT community? 00:29:09 - How was hiking the AT with your dog? 00:31:32 - Any standout stories from the AT? 00:33:16 - When did you decide to get on the PCT? 00:34:51 - What’s the most common dinner you eat on trail? 00:36:55 How was the PCT in a high snow year? 00:46:45 - Have you seen a culture change on the PCT? 00:49:05 - Tell us about the Art Loeb Trail 00:51:35 - What was your experience on the CDT? 00:55:05 - What was the most emotional moment you’ve captured on video on trail? 00:57:35 - How has your videography style changed over time? 00:59:25 - Tell us more about the crowds you’ve seen on the PCT this year 01:00:35 - Tell us about the Scottish National Trail 01:04:17 - What’s been your favorite trail to photograph versus hike? 01:07:35 - Walk us through camera lenses for new photographers 01:12:35 - What’s in your photography kit? 01:15:25 - Tell us about the C&O Canal Towpath 01:16:52 - Tell us about the Kungsleden Trail 01:21:31 - What’s the next international trail on your bucket list? 01:22:22 - How do you like repeating the PCT? 01:23:38 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your hottest take in the world of backpacking? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson by Steve Hoekwater QOTD: When does a walk become a hike? Advice Thing of the Week Triple Crown of cooking tips / hacks Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Liz "Handstand" Kidder: Scary Moments in the Sierra, Skydiving Near Miss, and Donating a Kidney (BPR #322)
09/08/2025
Liz "Handstand" Kidder: Scary Moments in the Sierra, Skydiving Near Miss, and Donating a Kidney (BPR #322)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by social media and YouTube sensation, Liz “Handstand” Kidder. Liz is a thru-hiker, vlogger, dreadlock artist, former skydiving fanatic, and a handstand-expert. Liz gives us her full story, including the events that lead to her becoming sober in 2014, how she nearly died in a horrifying skydive gone wrong, how the internet got way too much into her biz almost immediately into her thru-hiking journey, the time she donated a kidney, and we make her choose which trail reigns supreme between the AT and PCT- for which she does not hesitate to pick a winner. We wrap the show with why you shouldn't wear underwear on a thru-hike, a call for 2026 Blogger applications, which is better- hiking steep and short and long and steady, I offer a REPEAT stupid thing of the week, and we do the triple crown of things we'd step in barefoot. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKFALL15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Liz “Handstand” Kidder Time stamps & Questions 00:05:15 - Reminders: , and ! 00:08:40 - Introducing Liz 00:12:50 - Where’s the most epic place you’ve done a handstand? 00:15:10 - Do you have tips for someone who wants to get better at handstands? 00:17:10 - What was your introduction to the world of backpacking? 00:21:05 - What is the New Hampshire uniform? 00:22:00 - Tell us about skydiving 00:31:00 - How as the first week on trail? 00:32:40 - Had you done any social media prior to the AT? 00:34:50 - What was the drama? 00:36:35 - At what point were you hooked by the AT? 00:38:24 - Why did you end the AT in a more sour mindset than the JMT? 00:39:40 - How did the trail change you? 00:43:24 - Tell us about donating your kidney 00:52:10 - Tell us about your career 00:55:35 - How do you create dread locs? 00:57:20 - Do you get a lot of business through hiking? 01:00:10 - Tell us about the Annapurna Circuit 01:04:35 - How did the Annapurna Circuit compare to your other hikes? 01:06:45 - Tell us about the Colorado Trail 01:07:45 - How has the PCT experience compared to the Colorado Trail? 01:12:00 - Tell us about the scary moments in the Sierra 01:22:24 - Tell us about the Tehachapi challenge 01:30:20 - Tell us about spraining your ankle 01:38:30 - How did you feel about going home during trail? 01:40:51 - Are you still on a continuous footpath? 01:45:00 - Did you capture either of the sprains on camera? 01:47:45 - Do you like the PCT or the AT first? 01:50:11 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda by Anniversary and the Historian by Kelly Floro QOTD: Would you rather hike 2 miles uphill with no switchbacks, steep grade, or 5 miles uphill with switchbacks, moderate grade? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of things you’d step on/in barefoot Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Dan Durston 2.0: Durston Gear's Cult Following, Gear Innovations, and Design Philosophy (BPR #321)
09/01/2025
Dan Durston 2.0: Durston Gear's Cult Following, Gear Innovations, and Design Philosophy (BPR #321)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined once again by Dan Durston. Dan is the man behind Durston Gear, a backpacking gear brand that has exploded in popularity amongst long-distance backpackers over the last handful of years. Dan gives us the rundown on how his business and life have changed since he was last on the show, when another company was exclusively selling his designs via a third-party manufacturer, including taking a second mortgage out on his house, quitting his job as a biologist, and going all in on slinging packs, tents, and poles to his loyal cult-like following. Dan shares some insights on why he thinks he’s developed such a loyal following amongst this community, the struggle of trying to strike a healthy work/life balance, and the challenge of balancing scaling his company while maintaining the hands-on customer service experience his customers have come to expect. Chaunce and I unveil a new segment with Dan- Piranha Pool- where we pitch some of burning backpacking innovations and Dan is forced to invest in either of our ideas on the spot. Sassafras and I wrap the show with the best section hikes on the PCT, we break down our weekend at Cascade Locks for PCT Trail Days, the triple crown of jobs we definitely couldn't do, Sass previews a Trek blog post that angered a lot of the Internet (and why she loved it and agreed with it) and a listener gives us some very important grocery store history. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. [divider] Interview with Dan Durston Time stamps & Questions 00:05:55 - Recap of PCT Days 00:24:20 - Reminders: , and ! 00:25:15 - Introducing Dan 00:27:30 - Tell us about your evolution since 2020 00:32:30 - How do you get past fear and decide to take big risks? 00:35:43 - How did the first day of orders go? 00:41:20 - When did you know that you had to quit your full time office job? 00:42:45 - What is it about customer service that’s so important to you? 00:49:20 - Why do you think you’ve developed such a cult following? 00:53:50 - How do you balance your following with scaling bigger? 00:56:05 - Are you concerned about burnout? 01:01:00 - What are your sleeping bag thoughts? 01:04:50 - How are your products innovative compared to the competition? 01:15:25 - Can you say something nice about Gossamer Gear? 01:17:00 - Pitch us on ultralight trekking poles 01:22:00 - What would you consider to be a standard lifespan of a trekking pole? 01:24:45 - What’s the dumbest way you’ve ever broken a piece of gear? 01:28:20 - Piranha Pool: If you had a million dollars to invest in Zach & Chaunce’s gear ideas, how would you divvy up the money? 01:42:17 - What are the main differences between your backpack and the competition? 01:50:15 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors at large? 01:53:40 - How do you feel when you see people’s terrible tent pitches? 01:54:38 - How will you maintain customer service as your company grows? 01:55:45 - Do you feel like there’s some flattering imitation of your gear happening? 01:58:22 - What’s been your favorite part of the interview you’re currently in? Segments Trek Propaganda by Kelsey Nannini by To-Go QOTD: Pick 2 for sleep: perfect pillow, perfect air temp, perfect mattress Triple Crown of jobs you couldn’t do Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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The Wonderland Trail with Sassafras: Permits, Campsites, and Gear (BPR #320)
08/25/2025
The Wonderland Trail with Sassafras: Permits, Campsites, and Gear (BPR #320)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are chatting all things Wonderland Trail. The Trek’s very own Jess Stone is fresh off her thru-hike of this near-100 mile lap around Mt. Rainier in Washington, and gives us a detailed breakdown of her journey and the trail at large. We cover the ideal number of days to do this hike, the standout campsites, wildlife, the permitting process, and the best games to play on trail with your hiking buddies to pass the time such as eating rocks. We wrap the show with a couple of new opportunities to get involved with The Trek, why Nova Scotia has banned all hiking for the foreseeable future, ranking a series of different hiking conditions (or- why postholing is the worst), the triple crown of gear deal breakers, we get even more input on the very controversial decision to use dry ice for resupplies, and a listener reminds us that not all owl encounters are all that interesting. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKFALL15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 35% off sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Panel with Jess Stone Time stamps & Questions 00:04:50 - Reminders: , or and ! 00:11:23 - Introducing Jess 00:13:45 - Where is the Wonderland Trail? 00:14:15 - What is the permit system like? 00:18:10 - What is the distance and are there alternates? 00:22:20 - Did you bring a bear canister? 00:23:20 - Where did you start and what direction did you go? 00:25:35 - How did this trail compare to some of your past thru-hikes? 00:29:10 - Tell us about the wildlife 00:34:45 - How do the resupplies work? 00:36:45 - Tell us about making your own food 00:40:04 - What were the best campsites? 00:43:00 - Tell us about your hike chronologically 00:47:27 - What was your hiking group? 00:51:50 - Day 3 of the hike 00:59:00 - Did you encounter rangers? 01:02:30 - Eagles Roost to Golden Lakes 01:05:50 - Golden Lakes and afterward 01:09:50 - High Low Buffalo 01:12:15 - What gear stood out to you? 01:17:50 - What footwear did you use? 01:20:40 - How was the weather and water situation? 01:23:22 - How did you get to the trail? 01:26:10 - How was the experience overall? 01:27:12 - Wonderland Trail or the best 93 miles of the Long Trail? 01:29:00 - Peak Performance Question: What’s your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Chickpea QOTD: How many miles would each of the following have to be for them all to feel equal? Thing of the Week Triple Crown of gear deal breakers Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Go Bills, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, and Spencer Hinson.
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Top National Park After Dark Stories: Night of the Grizzlies, Grandma Gatewood, and Cocaine Bear (BPR #319)
08/18/2025
Top National Park After Dark Stories: Night of the Grizzlies, Grandma Gatewood, and Cocaine Bear (BPR #319)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Danielle and Cassie, the hosts of the popular podcast, National Park After Dark. In this episode, Chaunce gets the lowdown on some of the most outrageous stories from the our beloved national parks, including the infamous cocaine bear, tuberculosis huts in Mammoth Cave National Park, the tragic tale of Ishi, the last Yahi, who emerged from Lassen Park in the early 19th century, and the night there were two separate fatal grizzly attacks in Glacier National Park. We wrap the show with an opportunity to get paid to thru-hike (and consequently why you should be on The Trek's newsletter), cheap items that double as ultralight backpacking gear, my mediocre marriage advice, the triple crown of outdoor fears, and another listener offers a PSA on why you should probably not use dry ice for your resupply. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Danielle and Cassie of National Park After Dark Time stamps & Questions 00:04:45 - Reminders: and ! 00:09:40 - Introducing Danielle and Cassie 00:10:24 - What trip are you on right now? 00:11:50 - How did you two meet? 00:13:35 - How did you develop your podcast? 00:15:50 - What is it that makes your podcast so popular? 00:17:45 - Have you two visited a lot of the national parks? 00:23:50 - How often are you two out hiking together and what are your favorite trails? 00:29:45 - What are your favorite solo hikes? 00:32:30 - What is your podcasting research process like? 00:36:50 - Tell us about the Night of the Grizzlies at Glacier National Park 00:43:55 - Do you ever get in touch with people involved in the cases? 00:52:40 - Tell us about the mysteries of Mammoth Cave 01:01:36 - Tell us about Ishi, the Last of His People 01:06:50 - Tell us about Crater Lake National Park 01:15:30 - Tell us about Dope Lake in Yosemite 01:17:30 - Tell us about Cocaine Bear 01:27:20 - Tell us about Grandma Gatewood 01:33:20 - Discussion about the National Park After Dark podcast 01:34:45 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors in general? Segments Trek Propaganda By the Editors by Katie Jackson QOTD: What’s your most unhinged marriage hack? Triple Crown of outdoor fears Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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Quitting a Thru-Hike, Living Nomadically, and Working as a Chef with Juliette "Scorpion Queen" Kerven (BPR #318)
08/11/2025
Quitting a Thru-Hike, Living Nomadically, and Working as a Chef with Juliette "Scorpion Queen" Kerven (BPR #318)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we’re joined by Juliette Kerven, known on trail as Scorpion Queen. Juliette is a Michelin-trained chef, former yacht crew member, full-time nomad, and a thru-hiker of both the PCT and AT, and we caught her during her CDT thru-hike attempt for this conversation. This is a solo interview led by Chaunce, and it ventures into some uncharted emotional terrain for this podcast as Scorpion Queen openly wrestles with whether or not to continue her hike, and she ultimately comes to a decision during the interview. We also talk about what it’s like hiking in the U.S. as an international hiker (Juliette is from England), hear about her experience working on yachts, and learn how her Michelin-level culinary skills translate to the backcountry. All that and much more. We wrap the show with the most common injuries to AT thru-hikers, small things that make our days better, the triple crown of gingers (fictional characters edition), and the definitive guide to the sluttiest fonts. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKFALL15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 35% off sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Juliette “Scorpion Queen” Kerven Time stamps & Questions 00:04:56 - Reminders: , , and ! 00:10:30 - Introducing SQ 00:12:30 - How did you get your trail name? 00:15:05 - Why did you hate nature as a kid? 00:17:50 - When did you become fully nomadic? 00:21:07 - How did you decide to hike the PCT? 00:23:45 - What’s it like to work as a chef? 00:28:15 - What are your go-to dishes to make? 00:30:40 - When did you actually get on the PCT? 00:36:00 - Discussion about visas 00:37:30 - What are your crazy stories from working on super yachts? 00:39:00 - What grew your love for the PCT so much? 00:43:40 - What was your favorite trail town? 00:44:40 - What would you change about doing the PCT as an international hiker? 00:45:45 - What was your bad luck along the PCT? 00:52:30 - What’s your perfect shoe? 00:54:05 - How did being on the PCT affect your depression? 00:55:55 - Tell us about tearing your ACL 01:01:16 - Tell us about hiking the AT in 2024 01:03:50 - How did the AT impact your fibromyalgia? 01:06:35 - What was it like to start the AT so early? 01:09:50 - Discussion about SQ’s AT injury and bad luck 01:17:40 - We Love Love: Tell us about your AT romance 01:20:20 - What did you feel at the end of the AT? 01:23:20 - What did you do between the AT and CDT? 01:25:00 - What has your journey on the CDT been like so far? 01:47:20 - Why do you think you’ve decided to quit the CDT? 01:49:30 - Chaunce and SQ discuss quitting the CDT 02:02:25 - Why do you feel like a fraud if you quit? 02:07:00 - What would you do next if you quit? 02:15:50 - What scenario would make you want to keep hiking? 02:20:20 - Could you become less of a purist? 02:23:05 - What if you’re afraid to finish the CDT? 02:25:15 - Did you feel pressure to start the CDT too soon? 02:36:45 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: What’s something small that makes your day better? Sick Thing of the Week Triple Crown of Gingers (Round 2: Fictional Characters) Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Matt from Gilbert, AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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The Pinhoti Trail with Nathan "Switchback" Wright (BPR #317)
08/04/2025
The Pinhoti Trail with Nathan "Switchback" Wright (BPR #317)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Nathan Wright, known on trail as Switchback. Nathan is an ambassador for the Pinhoti Trail and Alabama trails more broadly, wearing almost too many hats to count. He is the co-founder of the Pinhoti Outdoor Center - a hostel he runs with his wife, President of the Alabama Hiking Trail Society, Vice President of the Alabama Pinhoti Trail Association, Chairman of the Board of the Pinhoti Experience Foundation, and serves on the Advisory Board of the Alabama Trails Commission. In this conversation, we go deep on everything to do with the Pinhoti Trail and Nathan’s many roles in supporting it. We cover the best time of year to hike it, what to expect in terms of wildlife, resupply, water, and logistics, as well as the standout physical features of the trail. Nathan also shares why the trail’s surrounding community makes it so special, the can’t-miss town stops and restaurants, and why he believes it’s the best off-season thru-hike in the US. We wrap the show with a FREE STUFF alert for 2025 PCT Thru-Hikers, how to get college credit for thru-hiking the AT, how our lives would be totally different if our first names were spelled differently, the triple crown of thru-hiker fads, a shortest day of the year of the week, and a listener shares some intel on Texas' most underrated trail. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Nathan Wright Time stamps & Questions 00:05:20 - Reminders: , or and ! 00:13:20 - Introducing Nathan 00:14:30 - Tell us about your hiking experience 00:15:00 - What made you fall in love with hiking in Alabama? 00:17:40 - Did you get involved with the trail first or hike it first? 00:19:30 - Tell us about finding out you were having a baby 00:21:44 - Discussion about section hiking the AT 00:23:45 - Tell us about all the organizations you’re involved with 00:25:15 - What are the basic stats of the Pinhoti Trail? 00:29:30 - What’s the best season to hike the Pinhoti? 00:30:25 - What’s the APTA? 00:33:40 - What’s the Pinhoti Experience Foundation? 00:36:00 - What’s the Alabama Trails Commission Advisory Board? 00:37:00 - What’s your tech company? 00:38:48 - How does your hostel work? 00:42:00 - Discussion about resupplies along the Pinhoti 00:44:14 - How much of the trail is on a road? 00:47:05 - What’s the process for creating a trail town? 00:51:40 - How does your business background interface with your trail work? 00:55:38 - What’s the water like on the Pinhoti? 00:58:40 - What’s the wildlife like? 01:01:10 - If we go on an Alabama road trip, which football game should we go to? 01:03:04 - When are the ticks bad? 01:04:00 - Could you bring your dog on the Pinhoti? 01:06:42 - Are there shelters on the Pinhoti? 01:08:43 - If you had to sell someone on the Pinhoti, what would you tell them? 01:10:30 - What’s some cool history related to the Pinhoti? 01:14:20 - What are some standout trail towns and town spots? 01:19:50 - What are the main characteristics of the trail? 01:22:24 - What is Alabama food culture? 01:23:15 - What are the logistics of getting to or from the trail? 01:26:50 - Tell us about Pinhoti Fest 01:29:00 - What do you see for the future of the Pinhoti? 01:36:03 - What are some lessons of running a hostel? 01:39:00 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors at large? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Jordan Charbonneau QOTD: Do you think your life would turn out different if your name was spelled slightly differently? Triple Crown of thru-hiker fads Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bill Jensen, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Minty Hikes Studio, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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The Northern Colorado Trail with Kevin "Sunshine" Silvernale (BPR #316)
07/28/2025
The Northern Colorado Trail with Kevin "Sunshine" Silvernale (BPR #316)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Kevin “Sunshine” Silvernale. Originally a commercial pilot from Seattle, Kevin thru-hiked the PCT in 2016 and immediately fell in love with the Hiker Trash lifestyle. That passion led him to put his flying career on hold to hike the AT, Colorado Trail, much of the CDT, and most recently, to begin creating a brand-new long trail route, the Northern Colorado Trail. We chat about his life as a pilot, including when Chaunce coaxed him into sharing a story about how he joined the mile high club, and how thru-hiking ultimately pulled him away from aviation. We go deep into the Northern Colorado Trail (or the NoCo Trail as he calls it), a 300-mile route he’s developing, covering what goes into designing and rerouting a trail, working with public lands agencies, the best time of year to hike it, standout sections (including a hair-raising traverse of the Devil’s Causeway), the wildlife, its growing popularity, resupply and town stops, how to access both terminuses, what he envisions for the trail’s future- and much more. We wrap the show with the sad news of the drowning death of a 2025 Appalachian Trail thru-hiker, Chaunce talks in depth about how she’s pooing liquid, the triple crown of bodies of water, Chaunce’s car getting broken into of the week, how I voluntarily stepped into a patch of poison ivy, and the best listener email of all time. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKSPRING15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code "LT520" for 20% off LT5 Trekking Poles at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 35% off sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Kevin “Sunshine” Silvernale Time stamps & Questions 00:05:16 - Reminders: , and ! 00:08:22 - Introducing Sunshine 00:09:30 - Tell us about being a commercial pilot 00:12:55 - Are you part of the mile high club? 00:14:08 - What are some quirks of pilot culture? 00:15:55 - What’s a go-to pilot movie? 00:18:05 - How accurate are flight simulators? 00:18:55 - What would you tell someone about the safety of flying? 00:25:36 - On average, how many hours per week would a commercial pilot fly? 00:26:40 - How did the PCT fall on your radar? 00:29:27 - Was there anything acutely dissatisfying about working as a pilot? 00:32:00 - What is a pilot lounge like? 00:33:30 - When you’re hiking, do you track planes you see overhead? 00:34:50 - Any standout moments from the PCT? 00:40:20 - What’d you do after the PCT? 00:41:25 - What was your impression of the AT after doing the PCT first? 00:43:55 - Were you able to enjoy the CDT given how isolated it is? 00:45:50 - When did the NoCo Trail idea come to you? 00:47:15 - Tell us the basics of the NoCo Trail 00:52:24 - How much of the trail is on roads? 00:54:30 - How do you get permission to hike across private land? 00:56:30 - How would you recommend section hiking the trail? 01:00:05 - What would a typical day of hiking look like? 01:01:27 - What are the highlights of the trail? 01:04:30 - How many people have hiked this trail? 01:07:00 - Did the route change as you thru-hiked it? 01:10:40 - Which alternate would you want to become the de facto trail? 01:11:50 - Are there 14ers along the way? 01:13:08 - What’s the water situation like along the trail? 01:16:42 - Would you recommend this as a first thru-hike? 01:18:10 - What’s the process of creating waypoints for navigation? 01:19:47 - What’s the camping situation like? 01:21:00 - How did you store your food? 01:22:30 - Which direction is best? 01:24:25 - Would you ever want this trail to connect to the Colorado Trail? 01:26:00 - How do you decide on a priority structure for continuing to develop the trail? 01:29:25 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson QOTD: How many days until my bowels remember what a solid is? Car Getting Broken Into of the Week Triple Crown of bodies of water Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . 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Impacts of Climate Change on the Colorado Trail with Triple Crowner and Scientist Karl Ford (BPR #315)
07/21/2025
Impacts of Climate Change on the Colorado Trail with Triple Crowner and Scientist Karl Ford (BPR #315)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Karl Ford. Karl is a retired environmental scientist, conservationist, and author of Triple Crown Hiking Adventures and The Colorado Trail in Crisis: A Naturalist's Field Report on Climate Change in Mountain Ecosystems. In this conversation, we dive into Karl’s experiences hiking the Triple Crown, his perspective on the current state of conservation and what the future may hold, and how climate change is already impacting our beloved long trails, with a special focus on the Colorado Trail. We also talk about what individuals can do to help combat climate change, and how Karl personally walks the walk when it comes to protecting our planet. We wrap the show with some convo on pre-hike anxiety, what the Hiker Trash four houses are, the triple crown of gingers, a blood boiling thing of the week, and a listener voicemail about UTIs. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Ombraz: Send a DM on or to for $30 off at . Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Karl Ford by Karl Ford by Karl Ford Time stamps & Questions 00:05:20 - Reminders: , or , and ! 00:10:55 - Introducing Karl 00:11:34 - What’s your trail name? 00:13:04 - What’s your outdoors origin story? 00:23:45 - Do you have a standout story about Colorado Trail history? 00:26:45 - Where did the Ute tribe get sent to? 00:28:40 - Are there popular spots along the CT that retain Ute names? 00:29:38 - Where do you think we’re headed in regards to public lands? 00:33:55 - Do you remember a shift towards conservation when you were young? 00:40:50 - What got you into thru-hiking? 00:47:40 - Discussion about Karl’s tick experiment on the AT 00:49:50 - Have you followed the Lyme disease vaccines that are in development? 00:51:30 - Did you know you wanted to do more thru-hikes after the AT? 00:55:45 - What advice do you have for people who want to start thru-hiking in retirement? 01:00:30 - How do you prevent injury and recover well? 01:04:25 - Discussion about hiking the CT during the pandemic 01:08:20 - What is forest mortality? 01:09:03 - How are beetles related to climate change? 01:15:10 - What’s your level of optimism in slowing the effects of climate change? 01:20:52 - Do you have any optimism about technological solutions? 01:22:40 - Discussion about deforestation and reforestation 01:26:10 - What does the future of the CT look like? 01:30:00 - What are the downstream effects of a primarily lodgepole pine forest? 01:33:25 - Wilderness areas along the CT 01:34:20 - What can we do? 01:39:38 - Stay Salty Question: What is your hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors at large? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Kelly Floro QOTD: When you’re a hiker what are the four houses you are sorted into? Triple Crown of gingers Blood Boiling Thing of the Week Listener Voicemail Mail Bag 4 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bill Jensen, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Minty Hikes Studio, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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Fascinating Colorado Outdoor Recreation Stories with OutThere Colorado's Spencer McKee (BPR #314)
07/14/2025
Fascinating Colorado Outdoor Recreation Stories with OutThere Colorado's Spencer McKee (BPR #314)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Spencer McKee, the Director of Content and Operations for OutThere Colorado. If you’ve been to Colorado and have Instagram, you’ve likely already come across Spencer’s videos - he’s mastered the art of packaging interesting Colorado news stories, culture, and fun facts into short form video content through OutThere’s social media channels. Spencer shares some of his favorite standout outdoor rec stories from the great state of Colorado with us, including what's underneath Cheeseman Park, the legend of Rattlesnake Kate, Colorado's active volcano, the most underrated mountain towns, best hidden gem restaurants, breweries, and the truth behind his obsession with flannels. We wrap the show with a call for the next host, editor, and producer of Trail Correspondents, some severe damage sustained by a beloved Appalachian Trail hostel, why thru-hiking is your next career power move, and we're joined by Elise for the segments, including the triple crown of things that make our lives easier. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKSPRING15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 35% off sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at . [divider] Interview with Spencer McKee Time stamps & Questions 00:05:20 - Reminders: , or , and ! 00:09:07 - Introducing Spencer 00:12:06 - How’d you land in Colorado? 00:13:45 - What led you to OutThere? 00:16:50 - How do you reach Coloradans successfully? 00:17:25 - What’s up with the flannels? 00:18:50 - What did you do when you first joined OutThere? 00:22:10 - Do you like doing deeper dives or more new-style comments? 00:24:10 - What does your typical week look like now? 00:26:13 - Are you Colorado famous? 00:30:00 - What are some of the more outlandish stories you’ve covered? 00:33:29 - Tell us about Rattlesnake Kate 00:37:05 - Is there any competition between OutThere and other news outlets? 00:41:00 - What type of story frequently comes across your desk? 00:46:25 - What are some of your hidden gem restaurants in Colorado? 00:50:42 - Tell us about other fun festivals in Colorado 00:58:15 - True or False: There’s an active live volcano in Colorado 00:59:55 - Do you ever cover concerts for work? 01:07:40 - What’s up with the Denver airport? 01:15:05 - Are there any other good Colorado conspiracies? 01:19:00 - Discussion about the Big Thompson flood 01:20:40 - Does Colorado Springs deserve to be ranked as the 3rd best city in the country? 01:26:45 - What are the most underrated mountain towns? 01:28:26 - What Colorado animal are you most afraid of? 01:36:04 - Have you heard any wild cow stories? 01:43:50 - How have you not done all the 14ers yet? 01:48:25 - Rapid Fire Colorado Questions 02:05:00 - Discussion about OutThere feedback 02:07:30 - Back to Rapid Fire 02:21:00 - Discussion about animals, mainly racoons 02:23:20 - Rapid Fire Colorado Trivia 02:25:40 - Tell us about 02:28:25 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda by Katie Jackson by Chloe “Chickpea” Jacobs QOTD: What’s a common phrase you recently learned you were saying incorrectly? Wedding Dress Thing of the Week Triple Crown of things that we do to make our lives easier Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bill Jensen, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Minty Hikes Studio, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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20,000+ Miles in under 10 Years, a Desert Hike from Tucson to San Diego, and Life as a Mariner with Leah "Twig" Harman (BPR #313)
07/07/2025
20,000+ Miles in under 10 Years, a Desert Hike from Tucson to San Diego, and Life as a Mariner with Leah "Twig" Harman (BPR #313)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Leah Harman, known on trail as Twig. Although Twig is relatively new to the world of thru-hiking, with less than 10 years of experience, she’s hit the ground running, accruing well over 20,000 miles in the process. In addition to all the usual suspects, triple crown trails, Colorado Trail, TA, Arizona Trail…Twig has also completed a number of lesser known trails, including the Mogollon Rim Trail, Bigfoot Trail, and a Desert Winter Thru-Hike from Tucson to San Diego. We of course learn all about these treks, why cows are the most dangerous animal on trail, and how she makes her perpetual hiker trash lifestyle work. Leah also recounts her past life living and working aboard ships, confirming that all the stereotypes about drunk and horny sailors are, in fact, hilariously accurate, complete with some entertaining hazing stories. We wrap the show with news of a group who trusted ChatGPT to plan their hike, and how that went terribly wrong, Chaunce details the stress associated with planning a wedding, and the triple crown of movie/tv shows that broke us. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Ombraz: Send a DM on or to for $30 off at . Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Leah “Twig” Harman Time stamps & Questions 00:05:30 - Reminders: , , , reach out if you’ll be at Trail Days, and or ! 00:12:45 - Introducing Twig 00:15:30 - What’s your take on the current state of public lands? 00:20:46 - What should you do if you get charged by a burro or cow? 00:23:00 - Tell us about your career before backpacking 00:26:40 - What are your crazy stories from living on a boat? 00:35:30 - What was the wildest storm you encountered at sea? 00:43:20 - Story about rescuing another ship 00:44:45 - Tell us about working on fishing boats 00:45:34 - What’s the coolest marine animal? 00:47:00 - What marine animals would you steer clear of? 00:55:00 - How did you go from living on boats to living on trail? 00:57:30 - What are the biggest similarities and differences between living on a boat and trail? 01:03:30 - How’d you end up on the Trans Catalina Trail? 01:05:00 - Did your career make you more risk tolerant? 01:06:10 - Tell us about going from the TA to the PCT 01:08:45 - Did you feel under pressure on the PCT? 01:12:20 - When did you adopt some more trail technology? 01:13:30 - Tell us about hiking the CDT 01:15:30 - What are your top 3 trails of all that you’ve done? 01:19:50 - How was the Hayduke in a high snow year? 01:21:30 - Refresh us on the Grand Enchantment Trail 01:28:00 - Discussion about mountain top geography 01:30:57 - What novice tips do you have for being more aware of your surroundings on a trail? 01:34:30 - Any standout stories from the AT? 01:40:30 - Tell us about the Mogollon Rim Trail 01:45:00 - How much was on trail vs route-finding? 01:47:40 - Tell us about your Pacific Coast Bigfoot Crest Rim Trail 01:55:00 - Animal noises 01:57:00 - Tell us about rafting in the Grand Canyon 01:59:10 - How are you funding all your hikes? 02:04:10 - Tell us about your 2024 hikes 02:07:40 - Tell us about your Desert Winter Thru-Hike 02:11:30 - How was the navigation? 02:15:30 - Discussion about Twig’s footwear 02:16:18 - What was the timeline and weather like? 02:20:30 - What are a few pieces of gear you feel strongly about? 02:28:10 - Stay Salty Question: What is the hottest take in the world of backpacking or the outdoors at large? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson by Kelly Floro QOTD: What’s the hardest part of wedding planning? Mexico Weather of the Week Triple Crown of movies and TV shows that broke us Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bill Jensen, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Minty Hikes Studio, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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Thru-Hiking for 30 Years, Working for ALDHA-West, Six Moon Designs, & FarOut, and Ridgerunning with a Dog with Whitney "Allgood" La Ruffa (BPR #312)
06/30/2025
Thru-Hiking for 30 Years, Working for ALDHA-West, Six Moon Designs, & FarOut, and Ridgerunning with a Dog with Whitney "Allgood" La Ruffa (BPR #312)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, we’re joined by Whitney La Ruffa, better known in the world of backpacking as “Allgood.” Allgood is the former president of ALDHA-West, the current Chief Revenue Officer at FarOut, and a certified backpacking OG—his first thru-hike dates all the way back to the early ’90s (some of you weren’t even alive then… which is weird). Since that first trek, Allgood has racked up an impressive list of trails, including the JMT, Wonderland Trail, Chinook Trail, Sierra High Route, PCT, CDT, and others. In this episode, we dive into stories from his countless miles on trail, his passion for backpacking food—he’s a bona fide backcountry chef, as evidenced by him freeze drying his own meals—and he spills the beans on some of his favorite trail-tested recipes. We also chat about how a chance encounter on the AT led him to adopt his dog, Erwin, and how Erwin has deepened his love for dogs in general. Beyond the trail, we get Allgood’s take on how backpacking has evolved since the 1990s, hear a heartfelt update on the health of former guest and beloved trail icon Renee "She-ra" Patrick, and unpack some of the recent bumps in the road for FarOut. We wrap the show with how Damascus has bounced back in the wake of Hurricane Helene, if animals could talk, which species would be the most annoying, and the triple crown of states we'd draft in a civil war. Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 35% off sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . Bear Mattress: Use code “BACKPACKER” for 40% off at . [divider] Interview with Whitney “Allgood” La Ruffa Time stamps & Questions 00:04:25 - Reminders: , hold the Trek’s tent for us, ! 00:11:00 - Introducing Allgood 00:15:52 - How has the world of thru-hiking changed from the early 90’s to now? 00:21:05 - Do you have any strong stances in which you’re a curmudgeon? 00:28:35 - Do you think there are more entitled hikers today? 00:36:05 - Tell us about your dog 00:43:00 - What’s the key to maintaining a dog’s longevity? 00:46:30 - Do you have a strong opinion about fresh/refrigerated dog food? 00:47:30 - Tell us about ridgerunning with Erwin 00:50:13 - Did you do any thru-hiking between 1996 and 2011? 00:52:45 - Tell us about the Chinook Trail 00:54:40 - Have you picked up any parallel hobbies? 00:56:55 - What meals do you make on trail? 00:59:20 - Discussion about dehydrating and freeze-drying food 01:02:40 - Do you have a go-to dehydrated recipe? 01:04:00 - Is there an easy way to tell if meat is fatty? 01:07:20 - Is gear a passionate subject for you? 01:10:05 - What’s the latest with She-Ra? 01:12:30 - How’d you get involved with ALDHA-West? 01:16:40 - How much time did you put in weekly while you were president? 01:19:35 - How’d you get connected with Six Moon Designs? 01:21:10 - What does the typical person not know about the cottage gear industry? 01:24:35 - What’s the next step for FarOut? 01:28:30 - Is there anything cool you’ve learned about FarOut since working there? 01:32:27 - How will FarOut address some of the other beef people have had with the app? 01:35:40 - Where can people keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Kelly Floro QOTD: If animals could talk, which species would be the most annoying? Triple Crown of states you would draft in the next civil war Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clever Innuendo, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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Julia "Rocket" Sheehan on Her Social Media Fall from Grace, Quitting on a Thru-Hike, and Her New Book (BPR #311)
06/23/2025
Julia "Rocket" Sheehan on Her Social Media Fall from Grace, Quitting on a Thru-Hike, and Her New Book (BPR #311)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Julia Sheehan, known on trail, as Rocket. Julia is a thru-hiker, former Trek Vlogger, social media sensation, nurse, and now a published author. Julia details how impulsive decision-making lead her to the wonderful world that is thru-hiking, inspired in part by everyone’s favorite Hiking Viking. Rocket also shares how health issues ultimately forced her off-trail, the unsavory response she’s gotten from some in the social media sphere in light of “quitting” and subsequently posting non-hiking content. Julia also shares the process in self-publishing her brand new book, Hiking is the Easy Part, a memoir of her thru-hike on the AT. We wrap the show with some news about Trail Correspondents 2026 edition, the story of a hiker that was found alive at a popular PCT pitstop after being lost in the backcountry for weeks, how much weight people lose during an AT thru-hike (and why it's generally not a good long term weight loss strategy), Chaunce and I have a borderline-impossible coincidence during today's QOTD, and the triple crown of albums. Topo Athletic: Use code “TREKSPRING15” at . Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Ombraz: Score a $30 discount by sending a DM to , and letting them know that Backpacker Radio sent you. Betterment: Learn more at . [divider] Interview with Julia “Rocket” Sheehan Time stamps & Questions 00:05:30 - Reminders: , and ! 00:07:45 - Introducing Rocket 00:08:20 - Tell us about your social media journey 00:15:30 - Did you ever feel like you could make a living from social media? 00:17:10 - Tell us about your background in the military 00:19:30 - How did you transition from the military to nursing? 00:21:15 - Can you talk about running from things prior to thru-hiking? 00:23:00 - Discussion about Rocket’s eating disorder 00:27:50 - What got you to the AT? 00:32:00 - What was the beginning of the AT like? 00:34:45 - At what point did thru-hiking click for you? 00:38:57 - What’s the hard part of thru-hiking? 00:43:00 - Tell us about the half gallon challenge 00:45:15 - How did you get your trail name? 00:48:00 - What did you think of the AZT? 00:50:20 - How did covid impact your hike? 00:52:35 - Did you encounter rattlesnakes or other creatures? 00:53:40 - What was the water situation like early in the season? 00:54:14 - Tell us about starting the CDT SOBO? 00:57:45 - What was the commentary like when you got off trail? 01:00:50 - How did you end up on the PCT? 01:02:10 - Tell us the story about getting off the PCT 01:06:50 - Did your nursing background help you diagnose anything? 01:07:50 - What was the backlash after getting off the PCT? 01:12:40 - What yoga poses would you recommend to thru-hikers? 01:14:14 - How is your health now? 01:16:40 - Tell us about writing your book 01:20:25 - What’s the most revealing thing you put in the book? 01:22:42 - How’s the early response been for the book? 01:25:10 - What’s next for you? 01:27:01 - Peak Performance Question: What is your top performance-enhancing or backpacking hack? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Katie Jackson by Katie Jackson QOTD: What’s something you learned embarrassingly late in life? Triple Crown of albums Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Lauren F, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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A Lifetime of Trail Maintenance: the Blackburn Trail Center, Building the AT Rollercoaster, and the Potomac AT Club with Chris “Trailboss” Brunton (BPR #310)
06/16/2025
A Lifetime of Trail Maintenance: the Blackburn Trail Center, Building the AT Rollercoaster, and the Potomac AT Club with Chris “Trailboss” Brunton (BPR #310)
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Chris Brunton aka “Trailboss”. Trailboss is a legendary force in the construction and maintenance of the Appalachian Trail, most notably, the infamous Rollercoaster section of the trail through Virginia. Trailboss enlightens us with some history of the trail, the process for procuring the trail’s corridor through that section, how he met his wife (CEO of the Appalachian Trail Conservancy) Sandi Marra, why he dedicates his life to the AT, and much more. We wrap the show with a brief overview of the difference between freezing and refrigerating food for Chaunce, the triple of the longest minutes, and a listener provides a hack for staying hydrated when you can’t reach the side pockets on your pack. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at . Gossamer Gear: Use code “BACKPACKER20” for 20% off packs at . Shady Rays: Use code “TREK” for 50% off two or more pairs of sunglasses at . Betterment: Learn more at . Ka’Chava: Use code “BACKPACKER” for 15% off at . [divider] Interview with Chris “Trailboss” Brunton Time stamps & Questions 00:05:20 - Trail Days Day 2 00:13:25 - Reminders: , and ! 00:15:30 - Introducing Trailboss 00:18:00 - Tell us about growing up in England 00:21:00 - How did you get started doing trail work? 00:33:00 - What brought you to the US? 00:37:00 - What was it like to emigrate to the US? 00:38:55 - How did you deal with the aftermath of handshake agreements? 00:42:10 - What was the mindset when building the Rollercoaster section? 00:47:50 - When did the section get its name and its sign? 00:53:40 - What is the motive in purchasing land near the trail corridor? 00:54:50 - What are the positive benefits of the ATC? 01:02:00 - Discussion about Benton McCaye and Myron Avery 01:06:40 - What are the rewarding aspects of doing trail maintenance? 01:12:30 - How did the PATC get started? Segments Trek Propaganda: by Karl Ford QOTD: Does ice cream expire and if so why? Triple Crown of the longest minutes Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy and . (and please leave us a review)! Find us on , , and . to get bonus content. Follow , , , and on Instagram. Follow , and on YouTube. Follow on Tik Tok. Our theme song is by . A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Carl Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Lauren F, Patrick Cianciolo, Rebecca Brave, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, David, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Greg Floravanti “Lumberjack”, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Luke Netjes, Merle Watkins, Peter, Ruth S, and Spencer Hinson.
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