Best Hire Ever
BEST HIRE EVER is a podcast that explores a simple truth - there’s nothing that drives success at your company like making a great hire. Make your BEST HIRE EVER, and suddenly you sleep better, work less nights and weekends, and you might even start being talked about as that guy or gal that’s just naturally a great developer of talent. Of course, making great hires is incredibly hard, which is why this podcast exists. Join TA Leader Kris Dunn as he digs into the topic of hiring top talent with undeniably talented corporate leaders, recruiters and candidates. You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, and you’ll learn the hard lessons others learned as they developed their approach to make their BEST HIRE EVER.
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57 - Shaunda Zilich on Building a Modern Employment Brand
04/02/2024
57 - Shaunda Zilich on Building a Modern Employment Brand
In Episode 57 of , talks with , People Brand Leader at Marriott International, on the best way to build a modern employment brand at your company. Among the topics discussed: --Why she calls it People Brand, not Employment Brand --The 3 big components to building a modern employment brand, regardless of the size of your company --The best way to maximize use of your employment brand in the field (toolkits and what should be included in those) --If you're just gettting started out and don't have a stand alone department for people brand, what type of skills you should be looking for in your normal TA or HR hires to help get your people brand off the ground. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Shaunda Zilich ------------Kris Dunn
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56 - Going Deep on Quality of Hire with Mike Fitzsimmons from Crosschq
03/26/2024
56 - Going Deep on Quality of Hire with Mike Fitzsimmons from Crosschq
In Episode 56 of , talks with (CEO and founder of Crosschq) about all things related to QUALITY OF HIRE. The conversation centers around the link/correlation of some common hiring elements we naturally think are linked to great quality of hire – referrals, interviews, assessments and more. Turns out, things aren't what we think they are. Mike breaks down with the Crosschq research says about each of these big areas (spoiler alert – the link of each to quality of hire isn’t what we think it is) and then lays out the reality – that every organization is unique and must chart their own path related to components of quality of hire that matter most to their workforce and industry. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Mike Fitzsimmons ------------Kris Dunn
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55 - New Book on Recruiting!! "The Talent Fix" by Tim Sackett
03/13/2024
55 - New Book on Recruiting!! "The Talent Fix" by Tim Sackett
In Episode 55 of , talks with (TA industry analyst, HRU Tech, The Tim Sackett Project) about his new book, "The Talent Fix, Volume 2" (), Musings between KD and the artist known as Sackadaumus including the following: --2:15 - Did the world need The Talent Fix, Volume 2? As sequels go, is this The Empire Strikes Back or Weekend At Bernie's 2? --3:55 - KD hates Zombie Movies. Enough to make sure the lights are on during World War Z. --9:34 - Tim Sacket give you his elevator pitch for why you should by "The Talent Fix, Volume 2", available for pre-order now, shipping 4/19. --12:11 - Why aren't there more books on recruiting out there? --14:20 - What are the 2 biggest Recruiting truths that carry over into Tim's second book? --17:22 - Why Tim added riskier topics to Volume 2 --25:50 - Why aren't more leadership teams globally supportive of great TA/Recruiting? --27:50 - When leaders want to fix TA, what do they wish they had more of? --32:45 - The time when people came after Tim about his description of the mediocre/lazy recruiter. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Tim Sackett ------------Kris Dunn
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54 - Real Interviewing AI for Recruiting Teams (with Mark Simpson from Pillar)
03/04/2024
54 - Real Interviewing AI for Recruiting Teams (with Mark Simpson from Pillar)
In Episode 54 of , talks to on all things AI in the space of Talent Acquisition, including the following nuggets: 1. How COVID created critical mass related to remote interviewing that gave rise to a company like Pillar.hr. 2. Why the first job of any recruiting AI should be to give time back to the recruiter or hiring manager via automated interview summaries, making collection of interview feedback easier, etc. 3. Why the right AI can help a hiring manager understand when they are talking too much among other awareness items (can you guess what the target benchmark is for a hiring manager vs a candidate talking in an interview?) - a great piece of feedback almost no hiring manager gets today. 4. How AI can measure candidate sentiment in an interview (do they hate you? i kid... sort of), leading to helping the hiring manager get better at interviewing. These are just a few of the things Mark and KD talked about. Take a listen and check out Pillar.ai when you get a chance. This is a tech company creating AI tools that really matter to TA and recruiting departments looking to get better. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ------------Kris Dunn -----------Mark Simpson
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53 - Three Positive Vibes Hiring Managers Can Give Candidates (to get better info)
01/30/2024
53 - Three Positive Vibes Hiring Managers Can Give Candidates (to get better info)
In Episode 53 of , goes solo for 12 minutes of goodness and talks about Three Positive Vibes Hiring Managers Can Give Candidates (to get better info) including the following: 1. Off the top, compliment something in their background 2. Be demonstrative in saying you really like something they said or described 3. Use the “you’re good at this” intro to a behavioral interview question to loosen up follow up responses Make the candidate feel great and you get better info!! Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ------------Kris Dunn
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52 - Tyler Weeks talks Talent Analytics and Applications of AI in TA
01/23/2024
52 - Tyler Weeks talks Talent Analytics and Applications of AI in TA
In Episode 52 of , talks with , VP of Talent Analytics at , about all things related to the the state of Talent Anlytics in the corporate world (and his life in the world of data), including the following: What it is like being a talent analytics leader at a F200 company The best thing about Tyler's job The most challenging thing about Tyler's job Where does TA usually fall short related to how they view TA Analytics What are the biggest areas of opportunity in TA related to the coming wave of AI Come for the data talk, stay for the KD's review of Tyler's workspace, which includes fine art and pull up bars - both aspirational signs of greatness. :) Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Andrew Flowers ------------Kris Dunn
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51 - Labor Economist Andrew Flowers on the 2024 Job Market
01/16/2024
51 - Labor Economist Andrew Flowers on the 2024 Job Market
In Episode 51 of , talks with , Labor Economist for job programmatic provider , about all things related to the 2024 job market, including the following: --Current probablity of a 2024 Recession as seen through labor stats, --The interaction between unemployment, labor market participation, and quick quits, --Did we have a recession in the techonology space in 2023, and --Trends in job posting volume (it's down) and what it means for 2024. This conversation includes the story of how Andrew's time at the the Federal Reserve made him into one of the world's most approachable economists. Pure gold. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Andrew Flowers ------------Kris Dunn
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50 - Sarah D'Angelo on the State of Campus Recruiting in 2024
01/09/2024
50 - Sarah D'Angelo on the State of Campus Recruiting in 2024
In Episode 50 of , talks with , Director of University Recruiting at Marriott International, in a wide ranging discussion about the state of campus recruiting, including the following: --How campus recruiting is recovering from the COVID era, --What students are looking for in employers in 2024 (spolier alert - it's changed!), and --How smart university recruiting teams can listen, engage, and get the best talent that fits their needs. Sarah breaks down the rebuild from the lost year of 2020 in campus recruiting, and along the way shares her strategy to ensure she serves students as a leader representing Marriott International. A great conversation, be sure to check it out! Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Sarah D'Angelo ------------Kris Dunn
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49 - Three Big TA Tech Trends for 2024 (AI, Skills, CRM) with Tim Sackett
01/02/2024
49 - Three Big TA Tech Trends for 2024 (AI, Skills, CRM) with Tim Sackett
In Episode 49 of , talks with (TA industry analyst, HRU Tech, The Tim Sackett Project) on the Three Big TA Tech Trends for 2024. Tim shares what he learned in 2023 HR Tech conference season and outlines the biggest trends for 2024, including the following: --AI and LLMs as they apply to Talent Acquisition --The Skills Revolution --CRM Tim and KD break each area down and talk about what they love about each trend, the challenges they see. Come for the broad trends, stay for jaded discussion of whether each trend is more vapor than real for 2024. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Tim Sackett ------------Kris Dunn Read More Quick LinksGet Embed PlayerDownload Audio File
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48 - 5 Big Recruiting Questions to Answer in a Post-Pandemic World (with Tim Sackett)
10/16/2022
48 - 5 Big Recruiting Questions to Answer in a Post-Pandemic World (with Tim Sackett)
In Episode 48 of , talks with (TA industry analyst, HRU Tech, The Tim Sackett Project) on the 5 Biggest TA/Recruiting Questions to Answer in a Post-Pandemic World. We're well over a year since recruiting ramped back up in April 2021, and it looks like this is the new normal and the old environment is not coming back. <Sigh> That means we've got some things to figure out. KD and Tim each bring their 5 biggest things and react in real time since they didn't share with each other beforehand. Among the topics covered: --Does your tech stack need to change? --What’s a good recruiter in a post-pandemic world? --Is the candidate expectation of immediate response fair? --How can we limit quick quits by being better recruiters? --Are we ready to use AI in selection? --How do we get more candidates to recruit? --Will Indeed ever be replaced in the top of the funnel market? Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ---------Tim Sackett ------------Kris Dunn
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47 - Phil North - Resolving Conflict on Remote Teams
11/16/2021
47 - Phil North - Resolving Conflict on Remote Teams
In Episode 47 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Phil North (VP of Customer Experience at Kinetix) on the challenges of disagreeing and resolving subsequent conflict (or perceived conflict) on REMOTE TEAMS, where visual cues and informal, in-person connection is rare. From a new hire perspective, this is a big topic to properly onboard and not lose a new hire to the "quick quit" trend that's happening more often in a tight labor market.
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46 - Eric Torigian (CHRO, SitusAMC) on Quality & Managing Change in HR
11/04/2021
46 - Eric Torigian (CHRO, SitusAMC) on Quality & Managing Change in HR
In Episode 46 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Eric Torigian (CHRO at SitusAMC) on building sustainable organizations as a company grows from 1,000 to 8,000 employees in a a matter of months, not years. Along the way, they talk about the need to flush out "pocket vetos" (change blockers) and to be "brief, brilliant and gone" as an advisor to the business.
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45 - The Pastor Who Could Recruit - Alternative Paths to Recruiting
09/19/2021
45 - The Pastor Who Could Recruit - Alternative Paths to Recruiting
In Episode 45 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Tim Sackett (HRU Tech, Fistful of Talent, The Tim Sackett Project), as Tim shares some of his experiences with alternative paths into a career in recruiting, including a former Pastor who turned out to be a great recruiter.
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44 - Work Analytics with Microsoft 365's Kamal Janardhan
08/29/2021
44 - Work Analytics with Microsoft 365's Kamal Janardhan
In Episode 44 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Kamal Janardhan, (General Manager, Microsoft Viva Insights, Microsoft 365) about the MyAnalytics platform that's routinely sending individual reports on wellness, productivity, collaboration and more to your employees.
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43 - How Do I Get My Recruiters to Consistently Use Our ATS?
08/22/2021
43 - How Do I Get My Recruiters to Consistently Use Our ATS?
In Episode 43 of , does Office Hours and answers a listener mail question that's causing pain everywhere in the world of recruiting: "How Do I Get My Recruiters to Consistently Use Our ATS?" Along the way, KD hits on the following considerations when trying to improve how recruiters use your ATS: 4:50 - Making tough decisions about what you actually want your recruiters to record in the ATS. 8:00 - Becoming more like a Sales team and ensuring you can report on your recruiting funnel for each req your team works. 11:50 - How consistent reporting is key to recruiter adoption of your ATS. 17:30 - Why spending time and resources ($) on how sourced candidates from other databases get into the ATS is a gift you have to give your recruiters to get them to use your system. 19:08 - Audits, performance management tie-ins and more to measure ATS adoption across your recruiters. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ! ------------Kris Dunn
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42 - How Do I Get Candidates To Stop Ghosting My Recruiters?
07/18/2021
42 - How Do I Get Candidates To Stop Ghosting My Recruiters?
In Episode 42 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn does Office Hours and answers a listener mail question that's causing pain everywhere in the world of recruiting: "How Do I Get Candidates To Stop Ghosting My Recruiters?"
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41 - How Do I Get a Hiring Leader Who Doesn't Understand Recruiting Off My Back?
07/11/2021
41 - How Do I Get a Hiring Leader Who Doesn't Understand Recruiting Off My Back?
In Episode 41 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn does Office Hours and answers a listener mail question that's as old as recruiting itself: "How Do I Get a Hiring Leader Who Doesn't Understand Recruiting Off My Back?"
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40 - Hiring Recruiters at Your Company - Keys for Success
06/13/2021
40 - Hiring Recruiters at Your Company - Keys for Success
In Episode 40 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Tim Sackett (HRU Tech, Fistful of Talent, The Tim Sackett Project) on best practices when hiring recruiters at your company. Tim and Kris talk through topics of note when it comes to "recruiting recruiters", including remove vs in-office, career level of prospects, comp models, assessment profiles and what the market is like in today's world.
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39 - Cameron Corder of the YMCA on Mission-Based Recruiting
06/06/2021
39 - Cameron Corder of the YMCA on Mission-Based Recruiting
In Episode 39 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Cameron Corder, CEO of the Cleveland County YMCA (NC) on the art of recruiting great talent for a mission-based organization. Cam and Kris discuss recruiting strategies for non-profits in competing with the rest of the world for talent, and what the for-profit world can learn from his 25 years of attracting great people to the YMCA mission.
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38 - Tim Sackett on Creating the Concept of Scarcity for Your Open Jobs
05/23/2021
38 - Tim Sackett on Creating the Concept of Scarcity for Your Open Jobs
In Episode 38 of , talks with (HRU Tech, Fistful of Talent, The Tim Sackett Project) on the concept and value of attempting to create scarcity around your open jobs and working for your company. KD and Tim explore the best way to create this vibe of scarcity when you're not Google, Apple or any other premiere brand and you have 100s of open jobs. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ! SHOW HIGHLIGHTS: 1:33 - KD and Tim intro the concept of scarcity based on a Fistful of Talent Tim did. What is scarcity in your open jobs and how can you create that feeling when candidates look at your open jobs? How do we make them want to work with us more? 5:30 - KD and Tim talk about the impact of the online world to application volume - candidates have the ability to apply for anything anywhere, but what if they didn't? What if the only way you could get a job was via referral from a current employee? 7:45 - Tim starts breaking down some of this ideas - idea number one, wait for it... Pay way about the market to stand out. KD and Tim talk about what the right % over the market rate is to create a form of demand and scarcity. 12:05 - Idea #2 in creating demand/scarcity is to offer something as a company no one else will match. Tim goes big and says "we're going to pay for college for your kids". 15:50 - Tim talks about investing in relocating talent to the extent they're locked in for the long term with a company. 17:40 - Tim and KD talk about the messaging we send as companies related to what it really takes to be successful at a company - and how that creates scarcity because some people opt out, but the messaging/reality makes some people want it more. 20:45- KD notes that total transparency related to who you would work for (your new manager) and what makes them tick as a manager as a great marketing tool. ---------Tim Sackett ------------Kris Dunn
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37 - Mike Miller of Chipotle - Recruiting With Purpose
05/15/2021
37 - Mike Miller of Chipotle - Recruiting With Purpose
In Episode 37 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Mike Miller, Director of Talent Acquisition at Chipotle, about all things recruiting at one of the most interesting brands in America, with specific focus on recruiting for a purpose-driven company.
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36 - Shuba Gopal and the Value of People Analytics
05/09/2021
36 - Shuba Gopal and the Value of People Analytics
In Episode 36 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Shuba Gopal about what's going on in the world of people analytics. Transitioning 5 years ago from the world of cancer research, Shuba shares what people analytics should look like for any CHRO or Talent Acquisition leader and also breaks down the current state of DEI and Gender Pay Equity analytics as well.
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35 - Chris Stanzione on Hiring Knowledge Workers & Running TA
05/02/2021
35 - Chris Stanzione on Hiring Knowledge Workers & Running TA
In Episode 35 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Chris Stanzione, longtime TA leader across multiple industries about the challenges and best practices of hiring knowledge workers in consulting, tech and more. Chris talks about what elevated TA/Recruiting looks like in the consulting/tech space as well as where to look for great project ROI . The answers Chris gives for "If TA/Recruiting were a movie, which one would it be" as well as "most important tool in TA" is worth the listen alone!
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34 - John Nykolaiszyn on the Art of Campus Recruiting
04/25/2021
34 - John Nykolaiszyn on the Art of Campus Recruiting
In Episode 34 of , talks with · Director, Business Career Services at FIU Business, on the current state and art of campus recruiting. John and Kris discuss a wide range of topics, including choices employers have to make when creating campus recruiting programs, what college students are looking for in 2021 and more. A great show with an expert in his field! Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ! SHOW HIGHLIGHTS: 4:30 - John breaks down his background, which includes great experience in corporate and agency recruiting before him landing in Career Services at FIU - a background that uniquely prepared him for his role at FIU. 9:37 - John shares with Kris what employers looking to establish a relationship with a career services function at a distinguished school like FIU need to do to get long term results from the relationship. 12:54 - Kris asks John what the biggest mistake employers new to the campus recruiting scene make. What’s a trap that employers with less experience in this world might fall into? 21:31 - Kris asks John if there’s a slotting process that employers need to consider when they think about where they should spend the campus recruiting time they have? Based on their relative position in the marketplace, should they go where they have the best chances for success? Kris asks John to describe what that would look like for him if he was leading the employer-side of this? 29:00 - Kids, man. KD asks John for the biggest change that employers need to know with a new grad hiring in 2021 that is dramatically even from 5 years ago? 39:10 - KD and John talk more about the kids. Where are kids better from a career prep perspective than they were 5 years ago? Are there any areas that have slipped? 45:35 - KD asks John for the % of parents that are helicoptering? ---------John Nykolaiszyn ------------Kris Dunn
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33 - Karlie Jessop on the Art of Hiring Great Sales Talent
04/17/2021
33 - Karlie Jessop on the Art of Hiring Great Sales Talent
In Episode 33 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with long time sales leader Karlie Jessop (Big Health, ADP, Xerox) about the art of hiring great sales talent. KD and Karlie talk about her growing up in the classic Xerox sales organization and her style as a sales leader when it comes to hiring.
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32 - Amazon Employees Crush Union - 10 Things You Need to Know
04/11/2021
32 - Amazon Employees Crush Union - 10 Things You Need to Know
In Episode 32 of , runs down the recent blowout vote by Amazon employees to say "No" to union representation at the company's Bessemer, AL Distribution Center. KD talks a bit about the media coverage, POTUS endorsements and more that negatively piled on Amazon, then provides 10 things to know about organizing in general and specific notes of interest on the Amazon vote and how monumental the "No" delivered by employees actually was. Please and to get the latest delivered to you. ! SHOW HIGHLIGHTS: 3:45 - KD starts with some basics of how union organizing works. 5:22 - KD discusses the fact that the union organizing process at the Amazon DC had a lot of friends on the left, including POTUS, most mainstream media, Hollywood and more. 7:58 - KD talks a bit more about the organizing process that a union follows to get to an employee vote to give you more context. 9:50 - KD talks about the fact that most unions want 50-70% of employees to sign authorization cards before presenting to the NLRB because they understand many of the cards will be signed under duress and employee will flip back to the company side. 11:18 - Coverage of the fact that most organizing campaigns never get to a vote is because employees who don’t care for union representation get wind of the secret card signings going on and report it to the company in question. 12:20 - KD covers the voting results. The union got absolutely crushed in this thing. 16:00 - Amazon was helped by expanding the number of voters in the election. This is called defining and expanding the “unit” in any union election. 21:00 - It’s obvious that the employees at the Amazon DC voted in a way that suggests for many, working for Amazon is one of the best jobs they’ve had related to pay, benefits, etc. 23:15 - After this result, the Biden administration and the media will push the narrative that employees were influenced in an unethical way by Amazon and will use that as a narrative to push through new laws and NLRB rules. Don’t believe it, remember “FOE” 25:52 - To really blow your mind, KD covers the act that this election was held 100% by mail-in voting due to COVID and what opportunity that provides for a union attempting to organize. Still, they got 16%, which speaks volumes on the intent and wishes of the Amazon employee base at the Bessemer Distribution Center.
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31 - Reggie Stover - HR Leader (GE, Pepsi, CLE Clinic) Thoughts on TA and Talent
03/28/2021
31 - Reggie Stover - HR Leader (GE, Pepsi, CLE Clinic) Thoughts on TA and Talent
In Episode 31 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks to HR leader Reggie Stover (Cleveland Clinic, GE, Pepsi) and digs in on Reggie's views of building TA/Recruiting, building relationships as an HR leader with leadership team peers and the impact of L&D and being good at Onboarding toward retention. KD calls the upset for Reggie's daughter in the NCAA Women's tourney (look it up!!) and Reggie shares his top two picks for the NBA Championship in 2021.
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30 - Shannon Russo - Women in the Workplace in 2021
03/19/2021
30 - Shannon Russo - Women in the Workplace in 2021
In Episode 30 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks to Kinetix CEO Shannon Russo about being a woman founder and the complexities of women rising in the business world. With the backdrop of Women's History Month, Shannon shares her story and compares and contrasts what she experienced coming up as a Wall Street analyst vs what women experience in 2021. Spoiler alert - it's complicated!
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29 - Doug Dean - CHRO - Children's of Alabama
03/05/2021
29 - Doug Dean - CHRO - Children's of Alabama
In Episode 29 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks to long time friend Doug Dean, CHRO of Children's of Alabama. Doug and KD have a deep conversation about his views of how recruiting, the workplace and leadership has changed during the pandemic, as well as what the future might hold in each area. Auburn football is also discussed! (of course)
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28 - Trent Cotton, Recruiting Leader at Bureau Veritas Group
02/26/2021
28 - Trent Cotton, Recruiting Leader at Bureau Veritas Group
In Episode 28 of BEST HIRE EVER, Kris Dunn talks with Trent Cotton, a longtime star in the TA/Recruiting arena, about his new TA leadership role at Bureau Veritas Group. KD digs in to Trent's background and his unique approach to running a TA department via Agile principles, which he calls "Sprint Recruiting."
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