Bombshell
Welcome to Bombshell. This new bi-weekly series, brought to you by War on the Rocks, is hosted by three of your favorite Washington insiders who will dissect today’s foreign policy crises and tomorrow’s security challenges. Our hosts — Loren DeJonge Schulman, Radha Iyengar Plumb, and Erin Simpson — will talk military strategy, White House mayhem, and the best cocktails known to (wo)man.
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Then One Foggy Christmas Eve
12/15/2020
Then One Foggy Christmas Eve
In the tradition of British dramas, Erin, Loren, and Radha reunite for a special holiday episode. The ladies flip the script, answering a range of questions from the first ever Manniversary guest Kai Ryssdal. They then return to some of their greatest hits including transition process, civ-mil issues, and personnel policy replete with process details and holiday movie analogies. Stay through the end to hear pop culture recommendations and special appearances from many former guests with answers to their favorite Bombshell questions.
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One for the Road
11/17/2020
One for the Road
For their 100th episode, Erin, Loren and Radha discuss new issues, like the escalating conflict at the Ethiopia-Eritrea border, old issues, like HVT targeting of al-Qaeda leadership, and, of course, continuing trade issues with China. They then turn to a discussion of all the White House mayhem (Ok, not all! No one has that kind of time), including lack of legal authority for Department of Homeland Security leadership to make decisions about DACA, the Defense Department “purge,” and the complicated, not-quite-yet-started transition of the Biden administration. The team ties a bow on this episode with a discussion of holiday movies and other pop culture … and that's a wrap! Links Cara Anna, “,” AP News, November 15, 2020 “,” BBC News, November 15, 2020 “Peter Mwai, “,” BBC News, November 11, 2020 David Porter, “,” AP News, November 14, 2020
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Anticipation Is Making Me Late
11/03/2020
Anticipation Is Making Me Late
Loren, Erin, and Radha are joined by their most frequent guest (Kori Schake) and a new guest (Katrina Mulligan) to discuss foreign policy issues we'll need to worry about regardless of the election outcome! After a lively discussion, the ladies go over foreign policy issues that have been over-discussed, under-discussed, and the processes that will always be their valentines. They wrap up with pop culture, self-care, and indulgences to help get you through election day and beyond!
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Final Countdown
10/20/2020
Final Countdown
Loren, Radha, and Erin reconvene to explore many of Bombshell's greatest hits - Brexit, troop levels in Afghanistan, and arms control. With a dash of ethnic conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh thrown in for flavor. The ladies then drop a Bombshell of their own: this fair podcast will be wrapping up in 2020. It's the final countdown!
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Karma Puh-leeze
10/07/2020
Karma Puh-leeze
Erin, Radha and Loren use COVID-19 as a frame to ask what this crazy time has brought to our attention, what it’s distracted is from, what it’s possibly helped, and how it’s shaped our own skills and interests. And shopping. Links “,” Reuters, October 01, 2020 “,” The Guardian, October 05, 2020 Todd Lopez, “,” US Department of Defense, September 29, 2020
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When There are Nine
09/22/2020
When There are Nine
This week, Mira Rapp-Hooper and Rebecca Lissner return to the show to discuss American grand strategy, female partnerships, and their fabulous new book, . The ladies then revisit the administration’s foreign policy in the Middle East - with notes on the UAE-Israel accord and Iran sanctions drama. Also, Tiktok! Soothing pop-culture ties a bow on it.
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I'm a Loser, Baby
09/09/2020
I'm a Loser, Baby
Loren, Radha, and Erin invite Camille Stewart, non-resident fellow at Harvard's Belfer Center, to discuss all the cyber threats and how individual behavior uniquely connects with our ability to mitigate or respond to them. In keeping up foreign relations, we provide short updates on Alexei Navalny, Belarus, and Brexit alongside a brief farewell to Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe. We'd like to remind you all that Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq are still a thing, and after all the takes have been shared on Trump's views on service members, we talk about the role of the press in this story.
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It's Fun to Stay in the JCPOA
08/25/2020
It's Fun to Stay in the JCPOA
Radha, Erin, and Loren host Nina Jancowicz, disinformation fellow at the Wilson Center and author of , to talk about the ongoing protests in Belarus and what we should read into the alleged poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. In keeping up foreign relations, the ladies explore the latest U.S. attempt to use the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA or “Iran nuclear deal”) — an agreement the United States ghosted on — to reinstate sanctions on Iran, and in White House mayhem they assess how the recent Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report on the 2016 election. Plus, process is our Valentine, but process can be used for evil ends, as we learned about the 2018 process to pursue family separation as an official U.S. policy. Unsurprisingly, we need a lot of pop culture to handle all this news.
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Tik Tok Ya Don’t Stop
08/11/2020
Tik Tok Ya Don’t Stop
This week Erin and Radha regroup while Loren takes a much-deserved vacation. They do a quick review on COVID-19 with the good (100 days no new cases in New Zealand), the bad (cases in Brazil, India, and the United States continue to grow), and the ugly (long-term economic consequences in the United States, India, and Brazil). They also dig into the recent explosion and protests in Lebanon and then go deep on the recent executive order impacting TikTok and WeChat. After reminding us that Afghanistan is still a thing, they talk about the lack of accurate and comprehensive briefings for POTUS and the mayhem that ensues, including quotes (and misquotes) by Robert O'brien (yes, he's the national security advisor!). To calm us all down, they then talk about pop culture from baseball movies (The Rookie, Bull Durham) to Arthurian legend-ish TV shows (Cursed). Links Abbie Cheeseman, “,” NBC News, August 09, 2020 Elian Peltier, “,” New York Times, August 05, 2020 Dennis Wagner and George Petras, “,” USA Today, August 06, 2020 Nick Perry, “,” ABC7NY, August 09, 2020 Derek Hawkins, Marisa Iati, and Jacqueline Dupree, “,” Washington Post, August 09, 2020 “,” BBC, August 09, 2020 “,” Times of India, August 09, 2020 Elaine Chen, “,” Wall Street Journal, July 30, 2020 Michael Crescione, “,” Healthline, August 06, 2020 Swati Bhat, “,” Reuters, August 09, 2020 Ryan Browne and Jamie Crawford, “,” CNN, August 09, 2020 Brad Heath, “,” Reuters, August 08, 2020 Jim Sciutto, “,” CNN, August 06, 2020 Justine Coleman, “,” The Hill, August 06, 2020 Philip Bump, “,” Washington Post, August 04, 2020 Geoffrey Gertz, “” Brookings, August 07, 2020 Robert Chesney, “,” Lawfare, August 07, 2020 Chaim Gartenberg, “” The Verge, August 08, 2020 “,” New York Times, August 06, 2020
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Simple Joys of Maidenhood
07/28/2020
Simple Joys of Maidenhood
This week the band is back together with Loren, Radha, and Erin once again all in the same time zone. They dive into Mike Pompeo's China speech, global COVID trends, and the world-famous Missile Technology Control Regime. Also, Congress approved the NDAA, and they have lots of thoughts on DHS "troops" engaging protesters in Portland. Stick around for pop-culture dissection of the Guinevere Deception! Links “,” US Department of State, July 23, 2020 Thomas Wright, “,” Atlantic, July 25, 2020 Richard Haass, “,” Washington Post, July 25, 2020 “,” Arms Control Association, July 2017 Aaron Mehta and Valerie Insinna, “,” Defense One, July 25, 2020 Amanda Macias, “,” CNBC, July 24, 2020 Rachel S. Cohen, “,” Air Force Magazine, July 23, 2020 Connor O’Brien, “,” Politico, July 23, 2020 Jacob Nagel and Mark Dubowitz, “,” Newsweek, July 26, 2020 Philip H. Gordon, “” War on the Rocks, July 21, 2020 Pablo Gutierrez and Sean Clarke, “” Guardian, July 28, 2020 Pablo Gutierrez and Ashley Kirk, “,” Guardian, June 25, 2020 “,” New York Times, July 23, 2020
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People Try to Put Us Down
07/14/2020
People Try to Put Us Down
With Radha and Erin on the road, Loren invites Ashely Feng of the Center for a New American Security, Kaleigh Thomas of CNAS, Kara Frederick of CNAS, Hijab Shah of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Meghan McGee of Georgetown University for a Bombshell takeover to discuss foreign policy issues with big generational shifts.
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Revenge of Cartography
06/16/2020
Revenge of Cartography
In this episode of Bombshell, the ladies welcome Madelyn Creedon, former deputy administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration, to discuss the state of arms control today. The crew also discusses other foreign relations goings on: North Korea won’t call South Korea on their cell phone, late at night, or otherwise; India-China drama continues; and there’s much ado in Venezuela. President Donald Trump is reportedly considering full withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan before November and you may have noticed something’s up in civil-military relations.
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China, All the Way to New York
06/02/2020
China, All the Way to New York
In this week’s episode, while Loren cleans out her office, Radha and Erin dig into an array of China-related topics: Huawei! India! Hong Kong! And last, but certainly not least, the World Health Organization. The ladies then turn to White House/American mayhem and try to be analytical while lamenting ongoing violence against black Americans and the potential deployment of U.S. troops in American cities. And finally, an awkward transition to a discussion of pop-culture yields some gems. Links Huawei Scott Bade, “,” Tech Crunch, May 30, 2020 Emily Feng, “,” NPR, May 28, 2020 India Border Jeffrey Gettleman and Steven Lee Myers, “,” New York Times, May 30, 2020 Hong Kong Sergei Klebnikov, “,” Forbes, May 29, 2020 “,” BBC News, May 30, 2020 Kenneth Rapoza, “,” Forbes, May 29, 2020 Jack Caporal, “” CSIS, October 17, 2019 WHO Brianna Ehley and Alice Miranda Ollstein, “,” Politico, May 29, 2020 “,” BBC News, May 30, 2020 Protests in US Dan Lamothe, “,” Washington Post, May 30, 2020 Samuel Sinyangwe, , October 5, 2019 Jennifer Doleac, , May 31, 2020 Megan Ming Francis, , May 30, 2020 Audrey McNamara, “ ,” CBS News, May 30, 2020 “,” CNBC, May 30, 2020 George Floyd Kate Shellnutt, “,” Chrsitanity Today, May 28, 2020
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I'm On A Boat
05/19/2020
I'm On A Boat
This week Erin, Loren, and Radha regroup for a "what did I miss" session to discuss the events of the last few weeks. Starting with the bizarre coup that wasn't in Venezuela, the ladies go on to talk about the Iran not-so-snap-back sanctions — including the Babysitter's Club analogy that you’ll need in order to understand why everyone is so annoyed — and the potentially pending restart of the China trade war. They then turn to the dwindling number of inspector generals and remind everyone why process is their valentine. They close out this episode with a discussion of books that will help you to learn if you feel like, cope when you need help, and escape when you want to.
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Burning Out Our Fuse Up Here Alone
05/05/2020
Burning Out Our Fuse Up Here Alone
Jung Pak, senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, joins Bombshell to discuss her fascinating and timely new book: . Radha, Erin, and Loren remind listeners that Afghanistan is still a thing even if the U.S. government would prefer it not to be. Also, did you know it’s possible to restart a trade war amid the pandemic? Or that the United States is a participant in the JCPOA? Neither did we. Plus, pop culture!
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I Do My Hair Toss, Check My Emails
04/21/2020
I Do My Hair Toss, Check My Emails
This week the ladies are back with a normal-ish episode, complete with special guest Nora Bensahel! She helps them dive deep on COVID-19 impacts on the defense budget. From there, they explore possible changes to the “global order,” Loren offers a tutorial on Hungary and Israel, and Radha schools us on trade issues. The ladies wrap up with a discussion of the most pressing issue of the day - haircuts. And issue a heartfelt socially distant hug to the Iyengar family. Links “,” BBC, April 17, 2020 Jessie Yeung, “” CNN, April 16, 2020 Thomas Y. Choi, Dale Rogers, Bindiya Vakil, “,” Harvard Business Review, March 27, 2020 David Barno and Nora Bensahel, “,” War on the Rocks, March 31, 2020 Thomas Wright, “,” Atlantic, April 04, 2020 Daniel W. Drezner, “,”Washington Post, March 30, 2020 Thomas Wright and Kurt M. Campbell, “,” Atlantic, April 13, 2020
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The One Where We Talk About Our Feelings
04/07/2020
The One Where We Talk About Our Feelings
This week Loren and Erin talk their way through all the coronavirus feelings: fear, hope, gratitude, some minor policy questions, and the pop culture that's giving us life. Stay home, be safe, wash your hands.
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This is Fine
03/24/2020
This is Fine
Kathleen Hicks, director of the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and all-around superhero, joins Loren, Radha, and Erin for an all-COVID-19 episode, starting with potential contributions by the Department of Defense to addressing this crisis. The ladies explore different angles of the global pandemic, including how it's impacting other ongoing international events, the economy, and domestic politics. Thanks be they also spend a lot of time on pop culture to soothe the soul.
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Don't Ask, Don't Get
03/10/2020
Don't Ask, Don't Get
This week Erin, Loren, and Radha reunite after a midwinter break to talk pandemics. They then turn to the Afghanistan “peace” deal, Israeli elections (third time’s the charm?), and recent developments in Syria. As always, there’s plenty of White House mayhem with a new chief of staff, and vacancies as far as the eye can see in Pentagon civilian leadership. Thankfully, Hilary Mantel books and Love is Blind provide a pop culture escape to soothe (or at least distract) the soul. Links Coronavirus Matthew Herper, “,” Stat, March 6, 2020 “,” The Economist, February 2020 Afghanistan Diaa Hadid and Scott Neuman, “,” NPR Morning Edition, February 21, 2020 Shereen Qazi, “” Aljazeera, March 9, 2020 Kathy Gilsinan, “,” Atlantic, February 29, 2020 David E. Sanger, Eric Schmitt, and Thomas Gibbons-Neff, “,” New York Times, March 8, 2020 Susannah George, “,” Washington Post, March 7, 2020 Courtney Kube, Ken Dilanian, and Dan De Luce, “,” NBC New, March 6, 2020 Elizabeth Threlkeld, “,” Lawfare, March 8, 2020 Pop Culture Randy Shilts, , (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2007) , PBS Syria Jen Kirby, “” Vox, March 6, 2020 “,” BBC, March 7, 2020 OSD Lara Seligman and Daniel Lippman, “,” Politico, March 6, 2020
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Let Us Be Elegant or Die
02/11/2020
Let Us Be Elegant or Die
This week the ladies return to regular programming and try to catch up after one of the more crazy weeks in recent political memory. They start off with the Coronavirus crisis before returning to an old-standby, Brexit. They also provide some color commentary on the recent Irish elections. And how could they forget the new Middle East Peace Plan! That’s before they get to impeachment, NSC firings, and White House Mayhem. Stick around and hear them gush about Little Women. Links Coronavirus “,” New York Times, February 9, 2020 Colleen Shalby, “” Los Angeles Times, February 8, 2020 Brexit Dharshini David, “,” BBC, February 9, 2020 “,” BBC, January 27, 2020 Irish Elections Rory Carroll, “,” Guardian, February 8, 2020 Middle East Peace Peter Beaumont, “,” Guardian, January 28, 2020 Irish Election Riley Beggin, “,” Vox, February 9, 2020 “,” Journal, February 09, 2020 Travel Ban “,” Wall Street Journal, February 07, 2020 “,” New York Times, January 31, 2020 Pop Culture Marlon and Jake Read Dead People,
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Man, I Feel Like a Woman
01/28/2020
Man, I Feel Like a Woman
Erin, Radha and Loren welcome three special guests for their annual "manniversary" episode: Hayes Brown from Buzzfeed, Tommy Vietor of Pod Save the World, and Maj. Gen. Patrick Donahoe join them to talk about communicating national security in this crazy world.
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Tigers on a Gold Leash
01/14/2020
Tigers on a Gold Leash
This week Bombshell welcomes Suzanne Maloney of Brookings to chat all things Iran. And because we love our listeners so much, we extended the discussion for the whole show to consider legality, effectiveness, process, and what happens next. Also, Megxit. Duh. Links Jonathan Marcus, “” BBC, January 3, 2020 Agnes Callamard, “,” Just Security, January 8, 2020 Loveday Morris, “,” Washington Post, January 10, 2020 Brian Naylor, “,” NPR, January 10, 2020 Rick Noack, Armand Emamdjomeh, and Joe Fox, “,” Washington Post, January 10, 2020 Ian Talley and Isabel Coles, “,” Wall Street Journal, January 11, 2020 Robert Jervis, “,” War on the Rocks, January 9, 2020 Suzanne Maloney, “,” Politico, January 11, 2020
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Nothing Changes on New Year’s Day
12/31/2019
Nothing Changes on New Year’s Day
Erin, Radha, and Loren mull over 2019, muse about 2020, and debate Rise of the Skywalker. We will be with you again.
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Bombshell Live! From NatSec Girl Squad
12/17/2019
Bombshell Live! From NatSec Girl Squad
This week Radha and Erin lead a special live episode from the NatSec Girl Squad Conference. They are joined by Dana Stroul, Kim Kagan, and Mara Karlin who all recently participated in the Congressionally mandated Syria Study Group. Listen in as the ladies discuss Syria policy, study group process, and answer audience questions! Links "," USIP, September 24, 2019
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Thank You Mr. Narwhal
12/03/2019
Thank You Mr. Narwhal
This week Radha, Erin, and Loren reunite to drink eggnog (or not!) and talk about events in London, from interrupting violent attacks with narwhal tusks to interrupting NATO ministerials with middle school-esque drama. The ladies then turn to protests in the Middle East, predictions on China trade deals, and Hong Kong legislation. Rounding it out is a lively discussion of all the mayhem that ensued when Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer (not that Richard Spencer) resigned. After that, the ladies have a much-needed pop culture discussion on all the holiday movies they're looking forward to watching. Links London Terrorist Attack Catherine Kim, "," Vox, December 1, 2019 Peter Bergen, "," CNN, November 30, 2019 Iran Hannah Brown, "," Vox, December 2, 2019 Farnaz Fassihi and Rick Gladstone, "," New York Times, November 26, 2019 China/Hong Kong Yen Nee Lee, "," CNBC, November 28, 2019 Gina Heeb, "," Markets Insider, November 29, 2019 Michael Bociurkiw, "," CNN, November 29, 2019 Keith Bradsher, Javier C. Hernandez, and Alexandra Stevenson, "," New York Times, November 28, 2019 NATO "," North Atlantic Treaty Organization, June 27, 2018 Steven Erlanger, "," New York Times, November 28, 2019
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With Your Shield or On It
11/19/2019
With Your Shield or On It
This week Loren, Erin, and Radha are joined by the peerless Mira Rapp-Hooper. Taking a break from stalking her perfect oat milk, Mira walks the ladies through alliances and shifting demands with Japan and Korea. The ladies do a whirlwind review of Hong Kong, Bolivia, auto tariffs, and pardons. After 5 words (plus margin of error) on impeachment stories of note, Erin and Radha (yup Radha) discuss the new Star Wars series where to Loren's dismay Radha declares her love of Star Wars puppets (especially those teddy bears). Links Mira Rapp-Hooper, , (Harvard University Press, 2020) Asia Simon Denyer and Min Joo Kim, "," Washington Post, November 4, 2019 Phil Stewart and Joyce Lee, "," Reuters, November 15, 209=19 Maggie Shum, "," Washington Post, November 14, 2019 Anna Kam, Casey Quackenbush, and Ryan Ho Kilpatrick, "," Washington Post, November 11, 2019 Bolivia "" BBC, November 13, 2019 Natasha Bennett, "" Washington Post, November 15, 2019 Santiago Anria and Jennifer Cyr, "," Washington Post, October 30, 2019 Trade Ben White and Doug Palmer, "," Politico, November 11, 2019 David Shepardson, "," Reuters, November 15, 2019 Camila Domonoske and Avie Schneider, "," NPR, May 17, 2019 Reuters, "," New York Times, November 11, 2019 Pardons Dave Philipps, "," New York Times, November 16, 2019
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It's (Barely) Daylight in America
11/05/2019
It's (Barely) Daylight in America
This week the ladies of Bombshell go deep on the Syria raid and the “value” of high-value targeting, before turning their attention to popular protests in Iraq and Lebanon. Of course, no episode would be complete without a Brexit update! Radha regales us with CFIUS tales and we all lament the attacks on LTC Vindman. Also, will the NDAA ever pass? Links Tamara Qiblawi, "," CNN, November 2, 2019 Sara Khairat, "" Aljazeera, November 1, 2019 Alissa Rubin, "," New York Times, November 1, 2019 Jen Kirby, "," Vox, October 29, 2019 Mark Landler and Stephen Castle, "," New York Times, November 2, 2019 Leo Shane III and Joe Gould, "" Defense News, October 30, 2019 John M. Donnelly, "," Roll Call, November 1, 2019 Joe Gould, "," Defense News, October 25, 2019 Greg Roumeliotis, Yingzhi Yang, Echo Wang, and Alexandra Alper, "," Reuters, November 1, 2019
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To Sleep, Perchance to Dream
10/22/2019
To Sleep, Perchance to Dream
Melissa Dalton from CSIS joins Loren, Radha, and Erin to offer a thorough, if morose, update on the U.S. military withdrawal from northern Syria and where that leaves Syrian Kurds. Bombshell returns to the topic of the United Kingdom which....might have a Brexit deal? The ladies also dive into the implications of recent NBA/China drama and what's going on with the impeachment inquiry, and amazingly have a disagreement about political speech by uniformed and retired military. Links Cameron Abadi, "" Foreign Policy, October 17, 2019 Benjamin Mueller and Matina Stevis-Gridneff, "" New York Times, October 17, 2019 Adam Taylor, "," Washington Post, October 17, 2019
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Context is All
10/08/2019
Context is All
Bombshell takes a step back to offer some context to the whirlwind of Ukraine and related investigations: what’s with Ukraine’s political trajectory, why is it a magnet for crises involving external actors these days, and how is it being impacted by today’s scandals? In Trump’s trade negotiations with China, how have elections become intertwined with those discussions? Turning to the White House, President Trump has had multiple crises emerge from calls with foreign leaders - how does his process shape those results. The NSC staff is wrapped up with today’s whistleblower investigation - who are they, and how can their role be politicized? In reacting to these events, President Trump’s language has taken an authoritarian tinge—what does political science tell us about his actions? And lastly, the president has suggested violence may erupt if he’s pushed out of office - how should we think about the military’s role in such scenarios? Links Ukraine Philip Bump and Aaron Blake, "," Washington Post, October 4, 2019 Bryan Bender and Wesley Morgan, "," Politico, September 30, 2019 "," BBC, September 10, 2019 Alex Ward, "," Vox, October 4, 2019 Impeachment legal Counsel Advice Radha Iyengar, , October 2, 2019 Trump Leader Calls Carol D. Leonnig, Shane Harris, and Josh Dawsey, "," Washington Post, October 4, 2019 Authoritarianism Barbara Geddes, Joseph Wright, and Erica Frantz, , (American Political Science Association, June 2014) Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, "," Guardian, January 21, 2018 Ari Berman, "" New York Times, April 13, 2018 Jennifer Mercieca, "," Just Security, May 1, 2019
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Because We Can Can Can
09/24/2019
Because We Can Can Can
This week Bombshell is blessed by the return of Tamara Cofman Wittes to help everyone understand Iran’s possible motives in the strike on an Aramco facility and what Saudi Arabia might do next. And as a bonus she sticks around to dive into Israeli elections. Then Erin, Radha, and Loren take a deep, nerve-calming breath to dive into the current White House Mayhem: the ouster of John Bolton, the arrival of Robert O’Brien, and the whistleblower-Ukraine monstrosity. Also, Erin saw Moulin Rouge and you should too, if you can can can. Links Aramco Attacks Stephen Kalin, "," Reuters, September 21, 2019 Lara Seligman and Elias Groll, "," Foreign Policy, September 20, 2019 Suzanne Maloney, "," Washington Post, September 18, 2019 Eric Schmitt, Julian E. Barnes, and David D. Kirkpatrick, "," New York Times, September 17, 2019 Israeli Elections Jeremy Sharon, "," Jerusalem Post, September 23, 2019 Oren Libermann, "," CNN, September 22, 2019 Aaron Heller, "," ABC News, September 22, 2019 New National Security Advisor John Hudson and John Wagner, "," Washington Post, September 18, 2019 John Gans, "," Politico, September 19, 2019
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