Voxology
Voxology (Formerly the Vox Podcast with Mike Erre) is a collection of voices that question and discuss our culture's most relevant topics in relation to Christ and Christianity. We talk LGBTQ, American and church politics, Christian culture's catastrophic marginalization of the very people Jesus implores us to love and so much more. If you have serious questions about the church’s representation of Jesus, what he has done and the beauty of his work on earth today, join hosts Mike Erre and Tim Stafford and their guests to talk things out and find your way back to the true mission of Jesus.
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When Thoughts & Prayers Are Not Enough
09/08/2025
When Thoughts & Prayers Are Not Enough
In this thought-provoking episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike and Tim tackle the implications of “thoughts and prayers” in moments of societal crisis to addressing the pervasive dehumanization in modern culture. Mike and Tim challenge listeners to rethink how faith shapes engagement with justice and truth. Through examples like prophetic critique in scripture and the importance of naming reality amidst propaganda, the episode offers actionable insights for embodying Jesus’ teachings in a culture dominated by division and misinformation. The conversation starts with the pressing challenges of navigating life in a post-truth world while standing for justice and truth. The conversation delves into the intersections of faith and politics, exploring how Christians can respond to cultural issues with cruciformity and humility. Drawing from scripture, theology, and practical insights, the hosts reflect on the role of the church in society, the importance of lamenting injustice, and fostering hope through communal witness. I. Three Urgent Prophetic Tasks: An Introduction II. Reality amid Ideology III. Grief amid Denial IV. Hope amid Despair V. Living amid Empire as Neighborhood Walter Brueggemann, Reality, Grief, Hope: Three Urgent Prophetic Tasks (https://ref.ly/logosres/rltygrfhp?ref=Page.p+vii&off=54&ctx=n%0aAcknowledgements%0a+~I.+Three+Urgent+Prop) (Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2014), vii. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Thank You 00:53 - Tim’s Troubled Times 06:32 - Importance of Communal Witness 19:34 - Thoughts and Prayers Debate 21:58 - Voicemail Insights 25:18 - Podcast Introduction 25:48 - Claim 1: Useless Thoughts and Prayers 27:38 - Claim 2: The Sufficiency of Prayer 29:45 - Faith Without Works is Dead 32:54 - Hypocrisy in Religious Performance 40:06 - Addressing the Sin Problem 43:10 - Gun Violence Statistics 48:45 - Biblical Reference: Luke 22:36 1:00:40 - Action Steps Moving Forward 1:03:11 - Embracing Good Trouble 1:04:59 - Preview of Next Week 1:05:21 - You're Not Alone: Support 1:09:14 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Lean In: A Conversation About Immigration - What is the Law and How Should the Church Respond? - w/ World Relief
09/01/2025
Lean In: A Conversation About Immigration - What is the Law and How Should the Church Respond? - w/ World Relief
Today's episode is audio from last weeks event: "Lean In: A Conversation About Immigration," a cosponsored, free event between VOXOLOGY and World Relief. Mike Erre and Matthew Soerens delve into the church's role and posture on immigration issues, highlighting their collaboration with World Relief. They discuss the importance of moving beyond policy debates to embrace a posture of empathy and advocacy for immigrant and refugee communities. Through events like "Lean In," they aim to foster conversations that address biblical, legal, and social realities, encouraging listeners to engage actively and compassionately. Join them as they explore how the church can stand in solidarity with marginalized communities and make a meaningful impact. How should the Church respond? What are the actual laws and how are they being violated? From the teachings of Jesus to the Old Testament’s calls to care for the foreigner, this episode navigates how Christians can approach this complex issue with compassion and cruciformity. They dive into the legal realities of immigration, the stories of refugees and asylum seekers, and the moral and theological responsibilities of the church. With a focus on justice, faith and politics, and the unity of the global church, this dialogue encourages empathy, critical thinking, and gospel-centered action. Join the discussion as the hosts address questions like: How does faith inform our view of immigration? What does it mean to embody love and justice as followers of Jesus? Whether you're wrestling with these topics or seeking to better understand the role of the church in cultural issues, this episode offers depth, reflection, and hope. We encourage and would love discussion as we pursue these important conversations. Engage with us on Facebook and Instagram or email your questions as we continue to explore faith, justice, and the teachings of Jesus. Together, let’s navigate these challenges with humility, curiosity, and grace. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro 04:35 - Mike’s Introduction 05:46 - Biblical Teaching on Immigration 19:53 - Complexity of Immigration Issues 20:24 - Immigration Definitions Explained 29:10 - Changes in Immigration Enforcement Policies 33:45 - Christian Immigrant Population Insights 37:40 - Desired Immigration Policy Reforms 43:31 - Legal vs. Just Immigration Practices 47:08 - The Dignity Act Overview 48:50 - Questions and Responses 54:50 - Community Action Steps 57:46 - Church Support for Latino Community 1:00:54 - Engaging Elected Leaders Effectively 1:06:40 - Religious Organizations and Liberty 1:11:38 - Finding Reliable Information Sources 1:14:55 - Understanding Dreamers and DACA 1:19:21 - Prayers of the People As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Praying to God as Father
08/25/2025
Praying to God as Father
In this episode, Mike and Tim tackle the challenges of local advocacy, the ongoing struggle for equity and inclusion within school systems and why we pray to God as Father. Through the lens of cruciformity and the teachings of Jesus, the conversation dives into faith and politics, navigating cultural challenges, and wrestling with the complexities of justice. From celebrating small victories to grappling with discouragement, the hosts reflect on what it means to live out a theology rooted in love, humility, and hope, even in the face of opposition. This episode also touches on the nuanced legacies of influential figures, the importance of communal resistance, and the spiritual intimacy of prayer as taught by Jesus. How do we embody faith in a way that centers on the marginalized and resists systemic injustice? What does it look like to adopt a posture of trust, curiosity, and creative resistance? We encourage and would love for you to engage in this conversation. Share your thoughts, questions, and reflections on Facebook, Instagram, or wherever you connect with us. Let’s continue exploring how faith shapes the way we navigate justice, cultural challenges, and the call to live as a transformative presence in the world. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Local Advocacy 08:01 - James Dobson 18:16 - Introduction to Matthew 6 18:48 - Righteousness and Visibility 20:32 - Almsgiving Explained 21:46 - Understanding Prayer 22:10 - The Power of Prayer 35:33 - Q&A Session 37:18 - Prophets of Baal Discussion 39:27 - Paul in Athens Analysis 40:20 - Jesus and the Amidah 44:18 - How to Pray Effectively 48:42 - Understanding Our Children 53:19 - Building Intimacy 53:46 - Upcoming Topics 57:16 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Understanding Prayer as a Gift, Rather Than a Transaction
08/18/2025
Understanding Prayer as a Gift, Rather Than a Transaction
Why does modern prayer need a serious rethink? In this engaging episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike Erie and Tim Stafford dive into the complex relationship between prayer, faith, and cultural challenges. From unpacking the transactional mindset often tied to prayer to exploring how the teachings of Jesus reframe this sacred practice, the conversation invites us to reimagine prayer as a transformative act of humility, gratitude, and community. The hosts discuss the role of the church in society, and how faith intersects with politics and justice in today’s world. Drawing from both ancient Jewish practices and the Lord’s Prayer, the episode challenges the prevalent individualistic approach to faith, calling listeners to deeper reflection on blessing God, acknowledging the gifts of life, and responding to societal issues with action. With their hallmark blend of critical thinking, curiosity, and humor, Mike and Tim offer a compelling perspective on navigating cultural tensions while staying rooted in the teachings of Jesus. We’d love for you to join the conversation! Feel free to share your thoughts or questions on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. Let’s wrestle with these ideas together as we pursue a more authentic, Jesus-centered faith. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - Mike’s Bad Mood 06:20 - World Relief Events 08:07 - Blessing God Explained 10:29 - John’s Teaching on Prayer 13:01 - Understanding Jewish Prayers 15:47 - Overview of the Mishnah 20:14 - Jesus's Teachings on Blessings 22:33 - Exploring Worldview Assumptions 27:41 - Living in God’s Presence 31:20 - Prayer: Contract vs Covenant 35:00 - The Importance of Recollection 39:55 - The 613 Commandments Explained 42:50 - Understanding Entitlement 45:33 - The Reward of Following Jesus 49:28 - Thank You and Goodbye As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Teach Us to Pray: How We Pray Reveals How We See God
08/11/2025
Teach Us to Pray: How We Pray Reveals How We See God
How does understanding ancient, Jewish prayer transform the way we approach our own prayer life? In this thought-provoking discussion, the Voxology Podcast unpacks the profound communal and theological practices of Jewish prayer that shaped the teachings of Jesus and continue to challenge modern, individualistic approaches to Christianity. Join the hosts as they explore how prayer reflects our understanding of God, our faith, and the world around us, offering a deeper lens into themes of cruciformity, justice, and the role of the church in society. By examining the historical context of Jewish prayer practices, such as the Shema and the Amidah, the conversation dives into the rhythms of blessing, repentance, and trust that were central to the lives of early believers. Learn how these practices offer fresh insight into the Lord’s Prayer and reshape how we navigate faith and cultural challenges today. Whether it's reimagining what it means to bless God or understanding prayer as a communal act of justice and restoration, this episode invites listeners into a richer theology of prayer that connects deeply with the teachings of Jesus. How does prayer influence your faith perspective? We encourage and would love discussion as we pursue these topics together. Feel free to email your thoughts, engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram, and join us in exploring the intersection of faith, justice, and cultural engagement. Let’s continue walking this road together. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Nonference 2025 05:43 - World Relief Event 10:49 - Home Church 12:44 - Christian Nationalism 18:43 - Indicators of Christian Nationalism 23:03 - Victim Mindset 27:20 - America as an Entity 31:30 - Importance of the Topic 32:55 - Introduction to the Lord’s Prayer 37:00 - Disciples’ Request for Prayer 42:35 - The Amidah Prayer 43:10 - Jewish Prayer Practices 47:26 - The Amidah Prayer (duplicate removed) 53:14 - The Daily Bread in Prayer 53:21 - Gathering of the Exiles 53:40 - Restoration of Justice 54:05 - Humbling the Arrogant 55:05 - Support for the Righteous 55:40 - Rebuilding Jerusalem 56:15 - Flourishing of Salvation 56:30 - Hearing of Prayer 56:51 - Restoration of Temple Service 57:15 - Divine Presence Restoration 57:45 - Peace in Prayer 58:12 - Fixedness of Prayer 01:00:10 - Two-Dimensional Vocabulary 01:04:17 - What God Provides 01:06:50 - Blaming God for Issues 01:08:39 - Support the Show 01:09:52 - See You Next Week As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The Sacred Nature of Questioning Everything - Nonference 2025
08/04/2025
The Sacred Nature of Questioning Everything - Nonference 2025
Live from the 2025 Nonference, Mike and Tim (In the same room) are joined in studio by Journey Church Pastors Suzie P. Lind and Sam Barnhart. What does it mean to truly deconstruct faith, and how can that journey lead to healing? In this heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation, the hosts tackle the complexities of "deconstruction," exploring disillusionment, doubt, discipleship, and ultimately, the pursuit of Jesus amidst cultural challenges. From addressing church hurt and systemic issues to reexamining theologies and navigating the intersection of faith and politics, this episode unpacks the role of the church in society and the personal journeys that shape our understanding of Christianity. Through themes of justice, cruciformity, and reimagining what it means to follow Jesus, the discussion dives deep into how cultural realities and historical practices influence our faith. The panel shares stories of heartbreak and hope, challenging the idea that questioning or rethinking faith is a departure from Jesus—instead, it’s often a move toward deeper authenticity. Whether you're wrestling with theological questions, processing church trauma, or striving to navigate cultural issues as a follower of Jesus, this episode offers a space for reflection and community. Feel free to share your thoughts, send in your questions, or engage with us on Facebook and Instagram. Let’s continue pursuing a faith marked by humility, curiosity, and justice together. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Welcome to the Nonference 02:12 - The Tennessee Buzz 04:35 - Deconstruction: A Second Innocence 07:11 - The Six D's of Deconstruction 14:46 - Why People Are Disillusioned 18:18 - Did the Church Move or Did the Curtain Open 23:16 - Deconstruction as Repentance 28:32 - Discipleship in Deconstruction 29:41 - Understanding Deconversion 32:44 - Redefinition in Faith 34:58 - Navigating Doubt 38:50 - Biblical Foundations of Deconstruction 41:00 - Purpose of Inference 42:26 - Q&A: Insights from Stafford 49:49 - National Park Moments 51:09 - Experiencing Death and Grief 56:32 - Neuroscience of Belief 56:41 - Josh McDowell and the Talking Snake 1:02:40 - Embracing the Power of Weakness 1:03:12 - Thank You 1:04:08 - Credits As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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When do We Stop Breaking Bread Together? - w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis
07/28/2025
When do We Stop Breaking Bread Together? - w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis
Why does evangelicalism feel like home to so many, yet leave others feeling out of place? This episode dives into the complexities of navigating faith, politics, and the church's role in society. The hosts explore questions of belonging, the tension between community and cultural critique, and what it means to follow Jesus in a world shaped by injustice and division. From personal anecdotes about introversion to deep reflections on justice, cruciformity, and the teachings of Jesus, this conversation challenges traditional views of Christianity while encouraging critical thinking and humility. How do we reconcile love for neighbors with standing against systems that harm the marginalized? What limits, if any, exist in extending biblical hospitality? These are just a few of the thought-provoking questions brought to the table. Whether you're wrestling with faith, grappling with cultural issues, or seeking to understand the intersection of theology and justice, this discussion offers insight and encouragement for the journey. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Tim’s Day 02:40 - Introverts 11:20 - Breaking Bread Principle 18:18 - What is Evangelicalism 22:09 - Evangelicalism vs. Jesus 26:51 - Matt's Authority in the Church 31:13 - Church Members' Perspectives 32:50 - Advice for Vulnerable Individuals 39:13 - Classroom Practices for Growth 43:14 - Responsibility vs. Joy in Faith 50:43 - Understanding Love 55:50 - The Gospel Explained 1:02:58 - Spiritual Refugees Journey 1:05:50 - Upcoming Topics 1:08:17 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Disagreeing Well: Exploring, Faith, Community, and the Complexities of Interpretation
07/21/2025
Disagreeing Well: Exploring, Faith, Community, and the Complexities of Interpretation
Join hosts Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they delve into a thought-provoking discussion on the nuances of biblical interpretation, the role of community in faith, and the challenges of modern Christianity. From exploring the portrayal of masculinity in popular culture to addressing the complexities of communal discernment, this episode offers a rich tapestry of insights and reflections. And Superman :) From judgmental posturing and a lack of authentic community to political alignment and cultural challenges, the hosts unpack how these factors are reshaping the role of the church in society. They also discuss the importance of cruciformity, humility, and collaborative leadership as ways to better reflect the teachings of Jesus. This conversation dives into how faith intersects with politics, navigating cultural issues like immigration and justice, and how the church can reclaim its role as a place of hospitality and authentic engagement. With personal anecdotes, biblical insights, and practical takeaways, this episode invites listeners to think critically about their own faith journey and the church's impact on the world. Join the discussion and share your thoughts—feel free to email questions or engage with the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We encourage and would love to hear your perspective as we pursue a deeper understanding of faith, justice, and community together. Let’s keep the dialogue alive! CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 02:38 - Cleaning Up YouTube Page 04:18 - Thank You Message 05:19 - 5 Ways Christians Resist Evil 11:05 - Reasons Young People Leave Churches 18:18 - Intro to Biblical Series 2 21:00 - Objective Text Analysis 22:10 - Disagreeing Well in Conversations 25:30 - 1 Timothy 2 Disagreements 37:30 - Sexuality in Biblical Text 46:51 - Layperson's Interpretation 48:08 - Good vs Bad Biblical Interpretations 49:15 - Voice of Christ Explained 49:56 - Understanding Fruit of the Spirit 50:07 - Goals of Bible Reading 51:43 - Understanding the Bible's Complexity 52:29 - Starting with Bible Study 55:33 - John MacArthur's Legacy 57:05 - Approaching the Bible 1:00:57 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Reflecting On Pastor Ara Torosian's Story
07/16/2025
Reflecting On Pastor Ara Torosian's Story
In a time of cultural divides and political tension, what is the church's role in bringing healing and truth to a fractured society? This episode dives into the complex intersection of faith, politics, and justice, exploring how Christianity can navigate today's challenges with humility, love, and a commitment to Jesus' teachings. The hosts reflect on the prophetic responsibility of naming reality, addressing idolatrous uses of faith in politics, and embracing cruciformity—a call to sacrificial living that resists cultural compromises. Drawing insights from Pastor Ara’s compelling story and his courageous leadership amidst injustice, the discussion delves into the urgent need for the church to stand against systems of oppression while maintaining a posture of love and nonviolent resistance. From the misuse of scripture in political narratives to the dangers of intertwining faith with partisan ideologies, this conversation challenges Christians to reclaim the radical, inclusive power of the gospel. Join this thought-provoking dialogue as the hosts grapple with the church's responsibility to embody justice, resist cultural corruption, and remain a kingdom-focused community. We encourage you to share your thoughts and engage in this essential discussion on faith, theology, and navigating cultural issues. Together, we can pursue a deeper understanding of what it means to follow Jesus in these divided times. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:15 - Separating from Ara 02:06 - Naming Reality 05:55 - Blasphemy Round-Up 16:14 - Introduction to Noncompliance 18:57 - What Does Noncompliance Look Like 23:18 - Emotional Exercise Techniques 24:50 - Brudes Explained 25:40 - Support the Podcast 26:10 - Connect with Us As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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A Personal Story of Resistance - w/ Pastor Ara Torosian
07/14/2025
A Personal Story of Resistance - w/ Pastor Ara Torosian
Pastor Ara Tarosian joins Mike and Tim to share his incredible journey from persecution in Iran to building a vibrant church community in Los Angeles. He went viral a few weeks ago for a visdeo he posted of members of his congregation being abducted by ICE (See our instagram this week for the video). From surviving the Iranian Revolution to smuggling Bibles and leading a massive underground church, Pastor Ara’s story is both heart-wrenching and inspiring. In this thought-provoking discussion, he recounts the challenges faced by Iranian Christians, the cultural and political hurdles of immigration, and how faith can endure under immense pressure. This episode explores themes of cruciformity, faith and politics, the role of the church in society, and navigating cultural challenges in a deeply divided world. Pastor Ara’s experiences shed light on the global realities of persecution, the resilience of faith in Jesus, and the call for the church to embody justice, mercy, and compassion in the face of injustice. Join the conversation as we examine how the teachings of Jesus intersect with real-world struggles and what it means to stand in solidarity with persecuted communities. Key Topics: Pastor Ara's background and journey to the U.S. The realities of seeking asylum and the legal hurdles involved The role of faith and community in navigating these challenges A call for compassion and reform in immigration policies Guest: Pastor Ara Tarosian, Call to Action: Listen, reflect, and share this episode to raise awareness about the human stories behind immigration and asylum. Hashtags: #Immigration #Asylum #Faith #HumanRights CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Seth Introduces the Episode 01:29 - Ara’s Early Life in Iran 12:38 - Ara’s Arrest in Turkey 21:34 - Becoming a Pastor 23:50 - Starting Cornerstone West LA 32:44 - The Story of the ICE Raid at the Church 46:20 - Emotional Toll of the ICE Raid 49:13 - Impact on Ara's Wife and Mother 50:39 - Effects on Ara's Second Family 51:34 - Community Impact of the ICE Raid 53:49 - How People Can Help 59:40 - Community Action and Support 1:04:08 - Closing Thoughts 1:06:08 - Support the Podcast 1:06:53 - Outro As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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A Near Life Experience: The Theology of Disability and Punk Rock Prophets - w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis
07/07/2025
A Near Life Experience: The Theology of Disability and Punk Rock Prophets - w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis
What does punk rock have to do with the heart of the Gospel? In this episode, the Voxology team, joined by the Dr. Timothy Gombis, dives deep into the unexpected intersections of radical community, inclusivity, and the teachings of Jesus. From punk rock's raw authenticity to the profound ministry of disability-focused communities that Mike recently experienced at the "Hope Heals" camp. The conversation explores how cruciformity—the self-giving love of Jesus—emerges in unlikely places. Along the way, they unpack the role of the church in society, faith and politics, and navigating cultural challenges with humility and curiosity. By reflecting on the ways marginalized voices reveal the Gospel's power, the team challenges traditional notions of faith and invites listeners to reimagine how justice, community, and theology come alive in everyday life. Whether discussing mutual ministry, the prophetic edge of punk culture, or stories of transformative love, this episode is a powerful reminder that the Gospel is both disruptive and healing. We encourage and would love for you to join this conversation. Share your thoughts on how faith intersects with culture and community on Facebook and Instagram, or email us your questions as we pursue deeper understanding together. Let’s journey forward in learning, dialogue, and the radical love of Jesus. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introducing Dr. Timothy Gombis 01:57 - Tim Stafford's Punk Band 05:58 - Catching Up with Dr. Timothy Gombis 11:39 - What's New in Theology 16:00 - Hope Heals Camp Overview 25:30 - White Evangelicalism Culture 27:43 - Mutuality in Ministry 30:16 - Lessons from Prisons and Bars 31:37 - Theology of Disability Insights 32:40 - Near Life Experience Reflections 35:00 - Understanding Second Naivete 41:32 - Tim Gombis Discussion 47:55 - Recounting God’s Actions 51:30 - Insights on Theology 54:14 - Evangelicalism as a Marketing Strategy 58:45 - Exploring Evangelical Theology 01:01:09 - Historical Figures in Theology 01:02:50 - Preview of Next Episode 01:04:10 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Roman’s 13: Give to God What is God’s
06/30/2025
Roman’s 13: Give to God What is God’s
Is Romans 13 being misused to justify political or social agendas? In this intellectually rich yet accessible discussion, the hosts tackle the challenges of interpreting Romans 13 in the context of faith, politics, and justice. Exploring the tension between government authority and the church's mission to love one's neighbor above all, they delve into nuanced themes like "cruciformity," cultural challenges, and the role of the church in society. Through a thoughtful lens, the episode contrasts Paul's teachings on governance with Jesus' profound declaration to "give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s." What does this mean for Christians navigating today's cultural issues? From historical insights to modern implications, this conversation offers clarity on how faith intersects with civic life while challenging misuse of scripture to justify injustice. Join the dialogue as the hosts emphasize humility, curiosity, and critical thinking in a pursuit to follow Jesus' teachings. How should the church respond to injustice? What does it mean to embody love and justice in a world of political tension? We encourage discussion and welcome your thoughts—engage with us on Facebook, Instagram, or send in your questions as we continue this journey together. Let’s explore what it means to live out faith authentically in today’s world. World Relief Conversation: CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 04:32 - The Now and Not Yet 07:16 - Understanding Romans 13 11:02 - ICE Deporting Christians 18:53 - Wrapping up Romans 13 22:49 - The Emperor is Not God 26:35 - Exile and Its Implications 28:30 - Tax Revolt Discussion 30:58 - Misapplication of Romans 13 32:15 - What We Owe the Government 35:13 - Context of Luke 20 38:36 - The Trap Set for Jesus 43:09 - Jesus’s Response Explained 47:50 - The Best Way to Scare a Tory 54:54 - Matt Soerens Emails Mike 57:27 - Email from Matt 1:00:50 - Shema and Its Significance As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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What About Romans 13... Joyful Non-Compliance: Faith in Action Today
06/23/2025
What About Romans 13... Joyful Non-Compliance: Faith in Action Today
What does "Joyful Non-Compliance" look like in today’s world? In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts explore how faith intersects with politics, justice, and cultural challenges. Diving into Romans 12 and 13, they discuss the biblical posture of joyful, peaceful non-compliance, emphasizing the church's role in society as a force of love, justice, and truth. From the complexities of navigating immigration issues to the tension between idolatry and injustice in government, this conversation unpacks what it means to live out cruciformity—a life shaped by the cross—in a chaotic world. Key insights include the distinction between peacekeeping and peacemaking, the theological implications of governance, and how Christians can embody a faithful, socially engaged presence amidst cultural turmoil. With practical examples and a deep dive into the text, the hosts challenge listeners to embrace a countercultural, Jesus-centered response to injustice and idolatry. Join the discussion and share your thoughts! How can we, as individuals and communities, live out this call to justice and non-compliance with humility and hope? Feel free to email questions or engage with us on Facebook and Instagram—we encourage and value your perspectives as we pursue this journey together. Let’s continue the conversation about faith, justice, and the transformative power of the gospel. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 02:58 Exploring Joy and Grief 05:57 Understanding Joyful Noncompliance 08:59 The Role of Theology in Current Events 11:54 Recent Global Events and Their Implications 14:51 Theological Perspectives on Israel and Foreign Policy 18:00 Immigration Policies and Their Impact 20:49 Non-Compliance and Moral Responsibility 23:39 Romans 13 and Its Application 31:47 The Application of Romans 13 39:27 The Role of Government in Society 46:08 The Relationship Between Romans 12 and 13 56:16 Peacemaking in a Divided World As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Joyful, Peaceful, and Gracious Noncompliance
06/16/2025
Joyful, Peaceful, and Gracious Noncompliance
How should Christians approach immigration, justice, and faith in today’s cultural climate? In this episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike and Tim dive into "Joyful, Peaceful, and Gracious Noncompliance," exploring what scripture teaches about welcoming the stranger, showing compassion, and advocating for justice. Drawing on the work of experts like Matthew Soerens and their own reflections, they tackle the complex intersections of cruciformity, faith and politics, and the role of the church in society. Through real-life stories, scripture analysis, and discussions on cultural challenges, they address the dehumanizing language often used in immigration debates, the tension between legality and justice, and the church's responsibility to embody the teachings of Jesus. What does it mean to love our neighbor, especially when they are vulnerable? How can the church navigate these issues with humility, courage, and hope? Engage with thoughtful insights, critical questions, and a call to action to advocate for justice in peaceful, gracious ways. Feel free to email your questions, share your perspectives on social media, and join the conversation as we pursue faithfulness to Jesus in a complex world. Together, let’s reflect on how Christianity can shape a more just and compassionate society. #news #newstoday #greencard #biblestudy #faithandjustice Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of Immigration Discussion 02:50 Personal Stories and Anecdotes on Immigration 06:06 The Role of the Church in Immigration Issues 09:05 Current Administration's Immigration Policies 11:58 Language and Rhetoric in Immigration Discourse 14:51 Understanding Different Types of Immigrants 17:46 Legal Status and Its Implications 21:01 Biblical Perspectives on Immigration 23:54 Theological Arguments for Compassionate Immigration Policies 27:12 Conclusion and Call to Action 51:12 The Call to Welcome Strangers 52:34 God's Heart for the Vulnerable 53:30 The Church as Foreigners and Exiles 58:12 Christian Identity and Immigration 01:01:51 Citizenship in the Kingdom of God 01:08:34 The Role of Government and Justice 01:15:21 Advocacy and Non-Compliance 01:21:47 The Church's Responsibility in Advocacy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothyETSY Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The World of, Behind and In Front of the Text: Navigating Biblical Interpretations
06/09/2025
The World of, Behind and In Front of the Text: Navigating Biblical Interpretations
In this episode, Tim and Mike continue the conversation about the complexities of biblical interpretation, exploring how various contexts—textual, cultural, and personal—shape our understanding of scripture. What does "biblical" really mean, and why does it matter in today's world? Mike and Tim explore the "world of the text," the cultural and historical contexts "behind the text," and the modern assumptions we bring "in front of the text." With humor, humility, and intellectual depth, they examine how varying social locations, traditions, and cultural frameworks shape our understanding of scripture, and how the Spirit of God works through it all. From discussing the challenges of "cruciformity" to navigating cultural issues like justice, faith, and the role of the church in society, this episode invites listeners to wrestle with the tension between timeless truths and modern interpretations. Drawing on examples like the parable of the prodigal son and the story of Ruth, they highlight the importance of curiosity, critical thinking, and engaging diverse perspectives to faithfully live out the teachings of Jesus. How do we discern faithful readings of scripture in a world filled with self-defined "biblical" interpretations? Tune in to explore this nuanced conversation, and share your thoughts as we seek to grow together. We encourage you to join the discussion on Facebook and Instagram or send in your questions—your voice matters in this journey of faith and learning! #bible #contextisking #biblestudy #topversestakenoutofcontext #scriptureoutofcontext #bible #privateinterpretation #principlesofinterpretation #exegesis #literalinterpretation Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context Setting 03:03 Exploring Biblical Interpretations 05:45 Understanding the Text: World of the Text 09:04 Contextual Influences: World Behind the Text 11:53 Cultural Dynamics and Historical Context 15:11 Personal Perspectives: World in Front of the Text 18:04 The Role of the Spirit in Interpretation 21:04 The Journey of Understanding Scripture 23:56 Conclusion and Reflection 28:36 Cultural Perspectives on Hunger 30:02 The Layers of Parables 32:11 Human and Divine Texts 33:19 Relating to Biblical Characters 35:40 Understanding Minority Voices in Scripture 36:43 The Spirit and the Text 39:29 Authority and Interpretation 42:12 The Nature of Authority in Scripture 48:16 Disagreeing Theologically As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The Bible as a Cross Cultural Experience
06/02/2025
The Bible as a Cross Cultural Experience
Is the label "biblical" helping or hurting how we approach faith, church, and cultural challenges? In this thought-provoking episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike and Tim explore the pitfalls of using "biblical" as a rigid brand, how it impacts theology, and its effects on navigating issues like justice, community, and interpretation of Scripture. They discuss the importance of reading the Bible in community, embracing humility, and fostering critical thinking to form faithful and wise communities. Drawing on listener feedback, they tackle how Scripture has been used both to liberate and to harm and ask what it means to embody a cruciform way of living. The conversation dives into the role of the church in society, the balance between individual and communal faith practices, and the dangers of reducing the Bible to oversimplified categories. With humor, deep insight, and a commitment to justice and Jesus’ teachings, this episode invites you to rethink how we engage with Scripture and one another. #bible #selfimprovement #foundationforintentionalcommunity #biblestudy #importanceofchristiancommunity #bible #solascriptura #livingbythebook #eisegesisvs.exegesis #biblestudy Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Week Recap 02:51 Modeling for a Glamping Resort 06:05 Podcast Updates and Listener Feedback 09:07 Discussion on Bible Accessibility and Interpretation 11:57 The Role of Community in Bible Reading 18:09 Intent Behind Bible Study 21:05 Unity and Diversity in the Bible 26:00 The Purpose of the Bible in Community 30:09 Critique of Biblical Branding 34:02 Closing Thoughts on Wisdom and Learning 35:25 The Limitations of Biblical Prepackaging 38:51 The Harm of Misusing Biblical Concepts 44:52 Understanding the Bible as a Cross-Cultural Experience 51:59 The Three Elements of Biblical Interpretation 59:52 The Importance of Context in Biblical Texts 01:06:01 The Dark History of Biblical Misinterpretation 01:09:55 Navigating Modern Misinformation and Biblical Understanding As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Why 'Biblical' Might Not Mean What You Think
05/26/2025
Why 'Biblical' Might Not Mean What You Think
Is "biblical" always what it seems? In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts unpack why the word "biblical" might not mean what you think and explore its misuse across faith, politics, and cultural issues. From examining how "biblical" has become a branding tool to discussing its role in sociological stress tests and power dynamics, this conversation challenges us to rethink how we approach scripture and the teachings of Jesus. The discussion delves into the complexity of interpreting the Bible, emphasizing the need to consider the text itself, the cultural context behind the text, and our own assumptions in front of the text. With deep humility and intellectual curiosity, the hosts highlight how faithful readings of scripture require dialogue, critical thinking, and a willingness to hold tension between differing perspectives. How does the Bible shape the church's role in society? What does it mean to navigate cultural challenges with cruciformity and justice in mind? Join the conversation as these questions and more are explored with nuance and authenticity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:58 Exploring the Concept of 'Biblical' 05:55 The Sociological and Branding Aspects of 'Biblical' 08:49 The Ambiguity of 'Biblical' in Conversations 11:56 The Power Dynamics of 'Biblical' Language 15:04 The Clear Teaching of the Bible: A Nuanced Approach 17:55 Understanding Context: Behind and In Front of the Text 31:33 The Complexity of Biblical Teachings 36:28 Navigating Interpretations and Understanding 40:04 The Role of Community in Biblical Interpretation 49:07 The Nature of Communication and Misunderstanding 56:18 Unity in Biblical Diversity As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Discernment: Cruciformity is Active, Not Passive
05/19/2025
Discernment: Cruciformity is Active, Not Passive
Discernment: Cruciformity is Active, Not Passive. On this episode of the Voxology podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford focus on discernment in faith, the essence of Christian identity, and the importance of critiquing ideologies rather than individuals. They emphasize the need for community engagement and humanizing conversations across divides, particularly in the context of immigration and societal issues. Further, Tim and Mike explore the complexities of homelessness, systemic issues, and the role of faith in addressing societal challenges. They discuss the importance of understanding the root causes of homelessness, the church's responsibility in promoting human flourishing, and the significance of inclusivity at Jesus' table. The dialogue also delves into the church's political involvement, the concept of cruciformity, and the challenges of navigating emotional overload while advocating for justice. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for a Christ-like approach to engagement in the world. "Lean In" with Matthew Soerens and Mike Erre: Unless it sounds/acts like Jesus, it’s not Christian Who is the real enemy? The Table is open to all, but prioritize who Jesus prioritizes First the Church Then the World Nothing is so urgent to get off your cross for Chapters 00:00 - Celebrating a Decade of Voxology Podcast 02:56 - The Power of Live Music Experiences 05:57 - Revamping the Voxology Podcast 09:02 - Exploring Discernment in Faith 12:02 - Understanding Christian Identity 14:57 - Identifying the Real Enemy 18:06 - Critiquing Ideologies vs. Individuals 21:01 - The Importance of Community Engagement 23:58 - Humanizing Conversations Across Divides 29:59 - Understanding Homelessness and Systemic Issues 31:45 - Faithfulness and the Role of the Church 35:43 - The Table of Jesus: Inclusion and Prioritization 39:12 - Political Involvement and the Church's Role 42:34 - Cruciformity: Staying on the Cross 49:10 - Navigating Emotional Overload and Advocacy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The Corruption of Biblical Leadership (Cruciformity Series)
05/12/2025
The Corruption of Biblical Leadership (Cruciformity Series)
What does leadership shaped by the cross really look like in today’s church—and how far have we drifted from it? Mike and Tim continue the Cruciformity Series with a raw, revealing, and intensely personal reflection on their own experiences with American evangelical leadership culture. From megachurch strategy to influence-based platforms, they unpack how conventional models of “biblical leadership” often mirror corporate America more than Christ. This episode challenges deeply ingrained assumptions about success, authority, platform, and power, and proposes a radically different path: cruciform leadership, rooted in humility, weakness, and the relentless pursuit of others’ flourishing. Mike shares his personal struggle of unlearning old paradigms and embracing a leadership ethos shaped by Jesus’ downward trajectory from divinity to servanthood. It's a must-listen for pastors, churchgoers, and anyone navigating the tension between faithfulness and influence. Key Takeaways: • What is Cruciform Leadership? – How the biblical model of leadership centers on self-giving love and the surrender of privilege. • The Seduction of Success Metrics – Why growth, platform, and “effectiveness” are poor substitutes for faithfulness and Christlikeness. • From CEO to Servant – Reframing pastoral roles through surrender, not strategy. • Personal Confession and Reflection – Mike shares how his perspective changed after decades in the evangelical megachurch system. • Leadership Beyond the Church – Exploring how cruciformity applies in workplaces, families, and personal relationships. Quotes to Remember: • "Cruciform leadership isn’t about getting things done—it’s about delivering God’s love and grace into people’s lives, daily." • “You can run a church, a marriage, or a business using old creation power. But the gospel calls you to something new.” Resources Mentioned: • Tim Gombis – The Drama of Ephesians • Dallas Willard – Quotes on humility & leadership • Caitlin Schess interview – On platform vs. message • Book of Philippians 2 – The downward trajectory of Jesus • Mark Gombis’s Commentary on Mark Whether you’ve been hurt by church leadership, led within it, or simply want to grow as a follower of Jesus, this episode invites you to a deeper and more transformative way of thinking about influence, success, and faith. Keep engaging with us by subscribing, leaving a review, or connecting on social media. We'd love to hear your stories as we pursue the way of Jesus together. — Have questions or thoughts about the episode? Email us at . Join the ongoing conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: Visit the for more content, merch, and resources. Subscribe on or Support the podcast by becoming a patron at Follow us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Music by Instagram & Twitter: @gonetimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Prophetic Resistance: Challenging the Status Quo (Cruciformity Series)
05/05/2025
Prophetic Resistance: Challenging the Status Quo (Cruciformity Series)
How the church responds when Jesus is co-opted by political power, and what it means to faithfully resist using cruciform love. In this latest installment of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim explore recent headlines where government leaders invoke Christianity as a means to assert national identity and justify coercive policies. Rather than offering partisan critique, they unpack the deeper spiritual crisis at work—when the name of Jesus is taken in vain to baptize authoritarianism and cultural dominance. Rooted in Walter Brueggemann’s prophetic framework of “reality, grief, and hope,” Mike and Tim lead a passionate discussion around resisting empire the way Jesus did—through embodied love, not religious spectacle. They revisit core biblical ideas of the church living as exiles and dive deeply into the last days of Jesus' life—highlighting not just the fact that Jesus died on the cross, but how he lived and loved on it. From forgiveness to hospitality to non-retaliation, Jesus models a radical way of confronting evil with redemptive good. Key Takeaways: • Resisting Political Appropriation of Christianity – How invoking Jesus to justify state power is a modern form of taking the Lord’s name in vain. • Walter Brueggemann’s Prophetic Framework – “Reality, grief, and hope” as a lens to navigate our cultural moment and resist false ideologies. • Cruciformity as Active Resistance – Jesus didn’t just die for us—he loved, forgave, and restored while dying. This nonviolent, redemptive love becomes the pattern for Christian resistance. • Reordering Our Spheres – Why the private, social, and public spheres must be aligned in love and integrity, and why public outrage alone isn’t the answer. • The Church as a Community of Justice – A call to form communities that shelter the vulnerable, confront injustice, and embody the Sermon on the Mount in both small and subversive ways. Guest Highlights: No external guests—but powerful contributions from voices like Walter Brueggemann, Tim Gombis, and public figures such as Rev. William Barber and Shane Claiborne are discussed in the context of prophetic Christian witness. Resources Mentioned: • Reality, Grief, and Hope by Walter Brueggemann • Ephesians (particularly chapters 2-4) – • Voxology’s Exile Series Archive – • Book: Resident Aliens by Hauerwas & Willimon • Book: The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider Feeling overwhelmed by the cultural co-opting of Christianity? You're not alone. Join us as we discern the way of Jesus, especially when it's unpopular. Don’t forget to subscribe, share this episode, and leave us a review. Let’s keep walking this road of faith, justice, and hopeful resistance—together. Email us anytime with questions or feedback at . We’re also on YouTube at Catch live chats and more on Instagram and Facebook. Like what we’re creating? Support the show on Grab some merch on our Listen to our curated soundtracks at Music by Instagram / Twitter : @GoneTimothy Follow Mike on Twitter: As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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A Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone - w/ A. J. Swoboda
04/28/2025
A Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone - w/ A. J. Swoboda
How reclaiming a teachable spirit can radically transform our faith, our churches, and our relationships with those we often see as “the other.” Mike and Tim welcome theologian, pastor, and author A.J. Swoboda to unpack his latest book, The Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone, as well as a powerful call for intellectual humility and curiosity within Christian community. Together, they explore why Christians should be the most curious people in the world—yet are often seen as some of the least teachable—and how engaging others (even those we vehemently disagree with) can be a deeply Christlike act of discipleship and hospitality. Key Takeaways: • The Cost of Curiosity – Why a teachable spirit is more important than ever in a polarized culture, and how refusing to learn keeps Christians stuck in cycles of fear and pride. • Learning from Enemies – How sitting at the feet of someone you disagree with can strengthen faith, not threaten it—and why it’s an essential posture for being salt and light in the world. • Intellectual Humility as a Spiritual Discipline – Understanding that learning doesn’t always mean agreeing, and that repentance and growth require letting go of certainty. • Babylon vs. Jerusalem – Applying Daniel’s exilic posture in a modern world where Christians often prioritize cultural dominance over Christlike witness. • Shame and the Fear of Not Knowing – A touching and honest reflection from A.J. on how vulnerability around what we don’t know (like his story about a screwdriver) can lead to deeper discipleship and spiritual maturity. Guest Highlights: A.J. Swoboda – Professor, pastor, and co-host of the Slow Theology podcast, A.J. brings humor, vulnerability, and a prophetic lens to what it means to be a learner in today’s world. His new book, The Teachable Spirit, challenges Christians to pursue curiosity as a virtue and to rediscover the joy of growing, even when it’s uncomfortable. Resources Mentioned: • A.J. Swoboda – • Slow Theology podcast (with Nijay Gupta) – • Rodney Stark – Writings on the sociology of early Christianity • Daniel 9 – Reflections on exile and living faithfully in Babylon • Upcoming Book Club – by Donald Kraybill (starts June 5) Let’s keep asking better questions and cultivating hearts that are open to correction, growth, and true wisdom. Subscribe, share, and leave us a review—your support helps us build a curious and Christ-rooted community. As always, we welcome thoughtful dialogue and questions as we journey together. Email us at , and keep the conversation going on Facebook and Instagram. Watch on YouTube: Grab our gear at the Learn more at Subscribe on or Support us on Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram Follow Mike on X/Twitter: Music by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Why Did Jesus Have to Die? Understanding the Wages of Sin and Sacrifice (Cruciformity Series)
04/21/2025
Why Did Jesus Have to Die? Understanding the Wages of Sin and Sacrifice (Cruciformity Series)
Unpacking the deep narrative threads that make Jesus’s death not just inevitable, but essential to our human story, Mike and Tim dive into the costs of sin, how death is a consequence—not simply a punishment—and what Jesus’s crucifixion really reveals about God’s nature. This Good Friday reflection brings clarity to questions we’ve inherited or sidestepped: Why did Jesus have to die? Why that way? And what’s the deeper biblical thread connecting Eden, the tabernacle, and the cross? Follow this continuing journey through the Cruciformity Series as we reframe our view of atonement theology through the lens of relational, embodied love rather than transactional debt. This episode traces the arc from Genesis to Jesus, highlighting scripture’s subversive beauty and its world-building wisdom that invites us to reimagine what it means to live—and die—in union with Christ. Key Takeaways: • Death as Consequence, Not Retribution – Sin introduces decay, loss, and exile from creation’s eternal purpose. Jesus, in true solidarity, embraces that outcome fully. • The Bible's Moral Logic of Life and Death – From Eden through the temple system and culminating in Jesus, we’re always being invited to choose life. • Crucifixion and the Unmasking of Empire – Jesus’s nonviolent death at the hands of imperial power exposes the futility of violence and reveals the upside-down power of God’s kingdom. • Sacrificial Systems and Human Imagination – Why animal sacrifice wasn’t divine bloodlust, but a contextual, symbolic reminder of the corruption and gravity of sin. • Jesus Enters the Realm of Death to Open Eden – The torn temple curtain and the resurrection signify access to the tree of life has been restored—no longer guarded, but freely given. Resources Mentioned: • Genesis 1–3 – The foundational story of life, choice, and consequence. • 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 – Paul’s “first importance” gospel creed, spotlighting Jesus’s death and resurrection. • Leviticus 17 – “Life is in the blood”—understanding why sacrifices pointed to something deeper. • Daniel 12 – A rare Old Testament glimpse of resurrection hope. • Philippians 2 (Kenosis Hymn) – Cruciformity and Jesus’s descent through obedience and suffering. • Rich Villodas (Twitter Reflection) – A poetic thread connecting Eden and the cross: Dive further: • Catch up on past episodes in the Cruciformity Series for more foundational context. • Check out our past deep dives on Genesis and sacrificial systems in the “Being Human” series. Join the conversation and rediscover why Jesus’s death was not a cosmic transaction but the climactic expression of God’s love. Don’t forget to subscribe, write us a review, and share the Voxology Podcast with someone who’s asking deep questions about faith and identity. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue these big ideas together. Email your thoughts to , and engage with us on Facebook and Instagram. Watch this episode and more on . Grab some faith-fueled merch from our Discover more about the podcast at Subscribe on or Support the Voxology community on Explore the Voxology Spotify Music Channel: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast + Facebook: Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Social: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Cruciformity: Living in the Shape of the Cross (A Cross - Shaped Life) - Q&A w The Voxology Patrons
04/14/2025
Cruciformity: Living in the Shape of the Cross (A Cross - Shaped Life) - Q&A w The Voxology Patrons
How does understanding the difference between what the Bible describes and what it prescribes shape the way we live, lead, and love today? Mike Erre and Tim Stafford kick off their new Christianity 101 Series with an in-depth—and often hilarious—conversation that lays the groundwork for how the Voxology community approaches Scripture, biblical authority, and spiritual formation. Responding to an Instagram post that claims “genocide, slavery, and sexual assault are all biblical,” Mike and Tim dismantle modern misuses of the word “biblical,” explore how cruciformity shapes biblical interpretation, and offer a counter-cultural vision for how the church can embody a radically different way of living. From Roman status systems to communion cups and Sunday merch, it’s all on the table in this deep dive into discipleship, Scripture, and what it means to follow Jesus today. Key Takeaways: • Prescriptive vs Descriptive Bible Reading – Why understanding the difference is crucial to avoid misapplying Scripture and perpetuating harm. • What “Biblical” Really Means – Challenging the misuse of “biblical manhood,” “biblical marriage,” and other theological buzzwords. • Cruciformity Explained – How Philippians 2 offers a vision for a cross-shaped (cruciform) life modeled after Jesus that subverts power, pursues justice, and levels privilege. • Christianity 101 Practices – Exploring baptism, communion, and solidarity with the poor as essential, identity-shaping communal practices of the early church. • How to Interpret Scripture – Considering fruitfulness, alignment with the person of Jesus, and whether an interpretation humbles the high and lifts up the low. Resources Mentioned: • Philippians 2 – The Christ Hymn and model for cruciform living • Book: Upside-Down Kingdom by Donald Kraybill – A deep dive into a counter-cultural Christianity rooted in justice and humility • Book: Fight by Preston Sprinkle – Theology of nonviolence • Previous Voxology Series on “How to Read the Bible” – • Get your new Vox Merch (now with more humility) – Join the conversation, ask big questions, and help us shape the upcoming “Christianity 101” series—email or connect with us on social. Subscribe, leave a review, and be part of a movement that reimagines the way of Jesus for today’s world. Watch us on . Support this community on or via Tithe.ly. Help fund more series like this and keep the podcast ad-free. Subscribe on or Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook. You can also follow Mike on Twitter at Music by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Two Christianities: Cruciform Love vs. Power and Culture Wars w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis (Cruciformity Series)
04/07/2025
Two Christianities: Cruciform Love vs. Power and Culture Wars w/ Dr. Timothy Gombis (Cruciformity Series)
How a cruciform vision of faith challenges cultural Christianity obsessed with dominance, political power, and exclusion. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Dr. Timothy Gombis kick off a new Cruciformity Series by wrestling with the relational and theological tensions between two distinctly different expressions of Christianity. They dive into Gombis’ definition of a cruciform (cross-shaped) life, the way Paul consistently connects theology to social justice, and what faithful biblical interpretation actually looks like in polarized times. This episode brings incisive insight and honest reflection into how Christians should engage others who claim Christ while promoting ideologies antithetical to his way. How do we differentiate between authentic discipleship and a power-driven counterfeit? When is it time to lovingly confront, and when is it time to focus on being a joyful presence even amid disagreement? Key Takeaways: • Understanding Cruciformity – Drawing from Philippians 2, Dr. Gombis defines cruciformity as using privilege, position, and power to sacrificially serve others, modeling the path of Jesus. • Scripture and Social Justice – Why the Bible inherently speaks into issues of race, class, gender, and justice, and how ignoring these themes distorts the gospel. • Faithful Interpretation vs. Literalism – A breakdown of how Paul’s creative use of the Old Testament—and early Christian interpretation—calls us to a living, theological engagement with Scripture rooted in love and justice. • Interacting with Other Christians – Strategies for responding to uncruciform expressions of Christianity with grace, humility, and clear relational boundaries. • Why Joyful Presence Matters – Finding the balance between calling out harmful theology and being a source of light, joy, and kindness without compromising the gospel. Guest Highlight: Dr. Timothy Gombis – New Testament scholar, professor, and host of the Faith Improvised podcast. With a Ph.D. from St. Andrews and decades of scholarly work, Gombis specializes in Pauline theology, cruciformity, and interpreting the Bible through a justice-centered lens. He brings deep nuance and practical wisdom to contemporary issues of faith and community. Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – • Power and Weakness by Timothy Gombis – • Drama of Ephesians by Timothy Gombis – • Michael Gorman – ‘Reading Revelation Responsibly’ and teachings on cruciformity – Let’s keep reimagining and embodying a Jesus-looking faith. Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone questioning the difference between cultural Christianity and the invitation to cruciform living. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to and engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The Anti-Greed Gospel: How Greed Fuels Racism and What the Church Can Do About It - w/ Dr. Malcolm Foley
03/31/2025
The Anti-Greed Gospel: How Greed Fuels Racism and What the Church Can Do About It - w/ Dr. Malcolm Foley
Unpacking the intersection of economics, race, and faith, Mike and Tim sit down with historian and theologian Dr. Malcolm Foley to explore the dangerous roots of racism in greed and how Christian communities can resist the power of money—biblically referred to as "Mammon." With incisive insight, emotional clarity, and a sense of urgency, Malcolm walks us through the key thesis of his new book, “The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward.” This challenging yet hopeful episode invites listeners to reimagine how the church can actively defang race as a category of oppression by confronting institutional greed, building communities of economic justice, and aligning more deeply with the Kingdom vision of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Greed as the Engine of Racism – Race didn’t create injustice; it was manufactured to justify domination and economic exploitation. • Defanging Race – Why we must neither ignore nor celebrate race, but neutralize its power through kingdom-shaped communities of justice and equity. • Economic Justice as Gospel Witness – How the early church's radical sharing (Acts 2 & 4) unveils God’s economic blueprint for the body of Christ. • Solidarity over Paternalism – Why generosity must evolve into shared life, mutual care, and practical redistribution of resources. • Institutional Implications – What churches (and podcast listeners!) can begin doing now to embody anti-greed practices and become agents of equity and reconciliation. Guest Highlights: Dr. Malcolm Foley – Author of “The Anti-Greed Gospel,” Baylor University’s Special Advisor to the President for Equity and Campus Engagement, and pastor of Mosaic Waco. Malcolm brings real theological depth, social awareness, and pastoral vision to his call for dismantling the idolatry of Mammon encountered both in society and within the institutional church. Resources Mentioned: • “The Anti-Greed Gospel” by Dr. Malcolm Foley – • “God’s Reign and the End of Empires” by Antonio Gonzalez • “Money and Possessions” by Walter Brueggemann • Revelation 3:14–22 – Jesus’s message to the lukewarm church in Laodicea • Acts 2:42–47, 4:32–35 – The economic witness of the early church • Matthew 6:24 – “You cannot serve both God and Mammon” Be part of the anti-greed conversation and join us in rethinking how the church can resist Mammon and embrace its calling as a community of justice and love. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media for more boundary-breaking theological conversations and future episodes. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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500 Episodes, Two Christianities, and Clarifying the Center of Jesus
03/24/2025
500 Episodes, Two Christianities, and Clarifying the Center of Jesus
Celebrating 500 episodes and nearly 10 years of bold conversations, Mike and Tim pause to reflect on the Voxology journey and address a growing burden: the deepening divide between competing versions of Christianity in American culture. This milestone episode explores how one branch of Christianity has co-opted the language of Jesus to justify nationalism, violence, and power, while another remains rooted in the cruciform way of Jesus—marked by humility, sacrifice, and enemy-love. Mike and Tim unpack why this distinction matters now more than ever, emphasizing the urgent need to return to the center—Christ himself—and discern truth from distortion. Through heartfelt lament, cultural critique, and biblical exploration, this conversation brings clarity, challenge, and hope for a faith community seeking to resist cultural idolatry and embody the real Jesus in these confusing times. Key Takeaways: • Two Competing Christianities – Recognizing that not every representation of “Christian” is congruent with the life and teachings of Jesus. • The Way of the Cross vs. the Way of Power – Understanding that the cruciform path of Jesus stands in direct opposition to nationalism, triumphalism, and coercion. • Discerning the Center – How a return to the teachings of Jesus—particularly the Sermon on the Mount—can help us evaluate what is truly Christian in today’s landscape. • Calling Out Distortion Without Condemnation – Learning to critique false gospels and ideologies without falling into gatekeeping or contempt. • What It Means to Be the Church Now – A renewed call for the church to serve as a prophetic, diverse, justice-oriented community amidst cultural confusion. Resources Mentioned: • Non-ference Gathering (July 31–August 2 in Nashville) – Email with subject line “Nonference” for info. • Daniel 7 and Mark 8-10 – Crucial texts exploring Jesus’s clashes with power and his redefining of greatness and Messiahship. • The Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5–7; referenced as the central teaching text for Christian formation. • Dallas Willard – “I trust Jesus with a whip, but I don’t trust myself,” a quote reflecting humility in social critique. • Facebook Private Group – Email to request an invite to our discussion space. • Philippians 2 – Preview of next episode’s theme on cruciformity. Guest Highlights: No outside guests this episode, but deep gratitude expressed for past contributors, supporters, and community members—including Andy Lara, Kevin Ashleman, Brenda, Bonnie, and countless others who have shaped Voxology through the years. 500 episodes in, the road’s been long, vulnerable, transformative, and often messy. But the mission remains: to question boldly, love recklessly, and follow Jesus faithfully—even when it's unpopular or misunderstood. Join us on the journey—and if you're still listening after 70+ minutes, you're a real one. Subscribe, share your thoughts, join the private Facebook group, and follow us @voxologypodcast for continued conversations. As always, we would love your questions, doubts, and feedback. Email us at . Let's keep wrestling together. Watch our episodes on Visit the Support us on Find merch on Listen on or Music by | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike: As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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The Affections of Christ Jesus: What Paul’s Theology of Love Teaches Us Today - w/ Nijay Gupta
03/17/2025
The Affections of Christ Jesus: What Paul’s Theology of Love Teaches Us Today - w/ Nijay Gupta
How do we truly love others, and what does it mean to love God with our whole being? In this rich and deeply engaging conversation with New Testament scholar Dr. Nijay Gupta, Mike and Tim explore the heart of Paul’s theology of love, as captured in Nijay’s newest book, “The Affections of Christ Jesus.” Tackling questions like "Can we love someone we don’t like?" and "Is empathy a sin?", they unpack the biblical roots of love, the emotional texture behind divine commands, and why reducing love to cold obedience misses the point entirely. Rooted in Deuteronomy, Philippians, and an astute understanding of emotional theory, Nijay reclaims love not as sentiment or robotic duty, but as an embodied, whole-person orientation empowered by attachment, compassion, and relationship. Whether it’s God's jealous love, the fear of the Lord, or cultivating inner affections toward enemies and neighbors alike, this episode beautifully bridges emotional intelligence with biblical theology. Key Takeaways: • Love is Whole-Personed and Relational – True biblical love involves the body, mind, emotions, and will—it’s not just about doing the right thing, but being reoriented toward others from the heart. • The Hebrew and Greek Understanding of Love – Love is visceral. In biblical language, emotions arise from the ‘guts,’ not just the heart. The Greek word "splanchnizomai" captures compassion as a deep, bodily movement. • From Cold Obedience to Cultivated Affection – Love is not sustained without empathy and proximity. Ongoing acts of love without emotional investment eventually collapse. • God’s Jealousy and Fear of the Lord – God's jealousy is protective, not petty. And fearing God is less horror and more awe—like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon or beholding a thunderstorm. • Empathy Isn’t a Sin—it’s Sacred – While some critique empathy as misguided, Nijay defends it as humanity's superpower and essential to resisting dehumanization and injustice. • Forming Affections through Repetition and Proximity – Nijay shares how showing up for a small group of teenage boys each week moved his heart toward genuine love for them over time. Resources Mentioned: • The Affections of Christ Jesus: Love at the Heart of Paul’s Theology by Nijay Gupta • BibleProject – • School of Practical Theology – Co-hosted by Nijay Gupta and AJ Swoboda on the Slow Theology podcast • Caitlin Beatty’s “Celebrities for Jesus” – Insights on power, intimacy, and proximity within Christian leadership • Substack: Engaging Scripture by Nijay Gupta – • New Living Translation Committee – Translating biblical texts for clarity and faithfulness Join Mike, Tim, and Nijay in reflecting on what it means to authentically tentacle your soul—yes, tentacle—around God and neighbor in ways that form you into a person of active, grounded love. Let’s recapture what Paul meant by “the affections of Christ Jesus.” Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and follow us on socials to keep these vital conversations going. We're on YouTube: Merch Store: Support the Voxology Podcast on Subscribe via or Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Twitter/X: Music by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Email us your thoughts and questions: As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Bridging the Gap: How Biblical Justice Calls Us to Reimagine Equity, Economics, and Jubilee - w/ Sarah Pechan Driver
03/10/2025
Bridging the Gap: How Biblical Justice Calls Us to Reimagine Equity, Economics, and Jubilee - w/ Sarah Pechan Driver
How the biblical blueprint for justice offers a practical and powerful vision for reimagining community, equity, and generosity. In this compelling episode of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and justice advocate Sarah Pecan Driver to explore what it means to faithfully pursue the restoration of shalom. Drawing deeply from Scripture and her 26 years of domestic and international experience in social policy, Sarah unpacks six biblical pillars of justice—from economic resets to bias-free systems—and shows how these ancient practices still challenge and inspire modern expressions of church, business, and civic life. Key Takeaways: • Justice as the Restoration of Shalom – Why justice is far more than fighting injustice; it’s about building real communities of equity, rest, and connection grounded in God’s design. • The Six Pillars of Biblical Justice – Sarah unpacks justice themes from Leviticus and Deuteronomy, including Sabbath rest, economic resets (Jubilee), gleaning laws, and interest-free lending. • Old Testament Roots, New Testament Fulfillment – Connecting Jesus' teachings and the practices of the early church to the justice systems prescribed in the Hebrew Scriptures. • The Church as a Just Community – Exploring how Christians can move from charity to systemic justice through biblical practices and modern workplace equity. • DEI in the Workplace through a Biblical Lens – Tangible tips for employers and leaders to remove bias and inequity, from removing salary history requests to proactively inviting feedback. • Why Economic Equity Is Good News – A biblical case for limiting profit maximization in favor of shared well-being and neighbor love. Guest Highlights: Sarah Pecan Driver – Justice advocate, global policy consultant, and founder of JusticeDriver.com. With experience across four continents and partnerships with organizations like the Carter Center and International Justice Mission, Sarah brings incisive clarity to how Scripture calls the church not just to do justice—but to embody it. Resources Mentioned: • Justice Driver – • Isaiah 58 – A pivotal passage on the kind of justice God desires • Leviticus & Deuteronomy – Core Old Testament sources for biblical justice frameworks • Book: Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – • Books of Luke and Acts – Tracing Jesus’ and the early church’s radical economics Help us reframe what justice really looks like in the church and world. Share your peak and pit with us, reflect on your own practice of justice, and consider how your business, church, and home can reflect the kingdom of God. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite platform to stay connected and engaged. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we journey together. Email your thoughts and questions to , and connect with us on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on Check out our Explore more at Listen & subscribe on or Support us through Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Understanding Grace as a Social Dynamic: Resisting the Myth of a Christian Nation (Exile Series)
03/03/2025
Understanding Grace as a Social Dynamic: Resisting the Myth of a Christian Nation (Exile Series)
How reframing grace as a radical, social equalizer challenges cultural power systems and reshapes the church’s role in a fractured world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford continue the Exile Series by unpacking how American nationalism distorts the purpose of the church—and how the book of Ephesians offers a subversive vision of identity rooted in Christ, not country. Drawing on theologians like Lee Camp, Caitlin Schess, and John Barclay, this episode critically examines how partisan politics twist scripture and why grace flattens power hierarchies, replacing tribal superiority with true siblinghood in the body of Christ. Key Takeaways: • Grace as Equalizer – Paul’s use of grace in Ephesians 2 goes beyond personal salvation; it subverts social hierarchies and removes grounds for boasting between groups (Jew/Gentile, male/female, slave/free). • The Myth of Christian Nationalism – Examining how Reagan-era rhetoric and modern political movements hijack biblical imagery (like “a city on a hill”) to assign God’s promises to America instead of the church. • Living Out New Humanity – The call of the gospel is to live as an alternative community—practicing justice, reconciliation, common meals, lament, and kindness to the poor—as acts of resistance against cultural divisions. • Constructive Anger and Emotional Honesty – Tim opens up about the tension between outrage, privilege, and compassion, challenging listeners to engage with righteous anger while still building bridges. • The Church as a Community of Shalom – Highlighting how diversity in race, ability, and gender should not merely be tolerated but celebrated in the church as reflections of God’s multifaceted image. Guest Highlights: None formally, but the writings of Lee Camp, Dallas Willard, and John Barclay heavily influence the theological insights discussed. Resources Mentioned: • Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – • Ballot and the Bible by Kaitlyn Schiess – • Paul and the Gift by John M. G. Barclay – • James 2, Ephesians 2, and Galatians 3 – Scripture on grace, justice, and the abolishment of ethnic, gender, and class barriers in the church. • Voxology Table Night – Monthly meal-based gatherings to intentionally build multiracial, multigenerational community. Join the Voxology journey as we realign our loyalties—not to empire, but to Jesus and the radical grace He extends to all. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay engaged. Have questions or reflections? Email or join the convo on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on Shop the latest Voxology merch: Support this podcast by giving at Subscribe on or Explore the Voxology world at Listen to curated tunes on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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Social Justice as a Core Aspect of the Gospel: How the Early Church Modeled Social Restoration (Exile Series)
02/25/2025
Social Justice as a Core Aspect of the Gospel: How the Early Church Modeled Social Restoration (Exile Series)
How the early church responded to injustice offers a roadmap for communities struggling to embody Christ’s vision of transformation and Shalom today. Mike and Tim dive deep into real examples from Acts, 1 Corinthians, and Galatians to reveal how the early Christians addressed systemic injustice across ethnic, economic, and cultural lines—while pointing to what it means to live out political engagement by being the church. Referencing powerful historical texts and contemporary critiques, including a provocative new book titled "The Sin of Empathy," this episode critiques legalistic, overly individualized versions of the gospel and recasts Christian political action through the lens of community justice, restorative practices, and the call to be instruments of peace. Key Takeaways: • Empathy Isn’t a Sin—Apathy Might Be – Critiquing reactionary movements that label empathy sinful, while unpacking what biblical care really looks like. • Justice as an Embodied Witness – From caring for widows in Acts 6 to confronting ethnic division in Galatians 2, Mike and Tim explore how the church is called not just to advocate for justice, but to live it. • The Lord’s Supper and Social Class – Why 1 Corinthians 11 isn’t about personal sin but about disrupting anti-kingdom social structures entrenched in church life. • Communal Faith, Not Individual Escape – Why salvation is about restoring both our relationship with God and our neighbor—and how that shapes our public witness. • Beyond Legalism into Discernment – Wrestling with complexity, nuance, and spiritual discernment as essential tools for modern followers of Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • Book: “The Sin of Empathy” (Canon Press, not recommended but discussed) • Book of Acts Chapter 6 – Conflict resolution in serving widows • 1 Corinthians 11 – Examining justice and table fellowship • Galatians 2 – Ethnic inclusion and gospel integrity • Ephesians 2 & Genesis (referenced) – Theological foundations for communal justice • Sky Jethani & The Holy Post Podcast – • Quote from Saint Francis – “Make me an instrument of your peace” Join the conversation as we reimagine church as a community of justice. Have feedback or questions? Email us at or follow us on social media. Help us continue this work: • Subscribe and leave a review on or • Support us on • Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast or "like" us on • Watch episodes on • Check out our merch store – • Learn more at Music by Follow Tim on Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike on Twitter: As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to , and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): . Our Merch Store! Learn more about the Subscribe on or Support the Voxology Podcast on The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Follow Mike on Twitter: Music in this episode by Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy
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