Car Con Carne
Hyperlocal Chicago podcast hosted by long-running local media personality James VanOsdol. Guests include musicians, restaurateurs, brewers, authors, actors and interesting persons of note. More often than not, the interviews happen in James's car.
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Josh Joplin celebrates ‘Useful Music’ anniversary as a Chicago resident (Episode 1133)
07/16/2026
Josh Joplin celebrates ‘Useful Music’ anniversary as a Chicago resident (Episode 1133)
Singer/songwriter Josh Joplin sits down to talk about the silver anniversary of his 2001 album, Useful Music. The silver anniversary finds Josh’s breakthrough pressed onto handsome vinyl alongside the digital release of “Useful Music (The Silver Anniversary Sessions),” a warts-and-all revisiting of the album’s creation. Beyond the Useful Music reminiscence, Josh dives into his most recent album, Gap Year (stylized as GpYr). He shares the personal evolution behind its tracklist, focusing on the definitive mission statement of "Colored Copies", the resilience found within "Predator and Prey", and the full-circle emotional realization of "Before the Light Takes Us,” a standout track featuring beautifully tracked backing vocals by his daughter. Josh also talks about what led him to relocate to Chicago in recent years, and how the adjustment has affected him creatively and motivated him professionally. Catch Josh Joplin live at The Hideout for a special matinee show on October 17th! Support Our Sponsors Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Music journalist Selena Fragassi (Episode 1132)
07/03/2026
Music journalist Selena Fragassi (Episode 1132)
Selena Fragassi has built an extensive career in music journalism, writing for publications like the Sun-Times and Spin, and authoring seven music biographies. On this episode, she jumps in the car to discuss her work across multiple platforms. During the chat, we talk about what makes a live show "good." Selena also shares what it's like to navigate the modern landscape of music journalism, as well as what drives journalists. And in case you're an aspiring music writer, she also shares solid tips on how to get going. Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Headquartered in the heart of Hermosa, they offer boutique print shop quality at large print shop prices for bands, brands, and small businesses. Check out their work on Instagram @explodinghouse or visit explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote.
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Taste of Randolph preview - OK Cool (Episode 1131)
06/17/2026
Taste of Randolph preview - OK Cool (Episode 1131)
The last time James checked in with OK Cool, it was during the pandemic, and they were just faces on a screen. Now, they finally meet in vivid 3D at HIDE+SEEK on Randolph Street ahead of the band's Sunday performance at the 29th annual Taste of Randolph! Haley and Bridget reflect on their creative output since 2021, including the release of two EPs (Surrealist and Fawn) and their 2025 full-length LP, Chitchat. They also break down the meaning behind the catchy, residency-taking track "Jeans," reveal the Borat movie quote behind their "Wawwoowewa" music video, and share the exciting news that they have officially started tracking their next record. Special Thanks to Our Sponsor Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery, and other merchandising needs. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Taste of Randolph preview - Action/Adventure (Episode 1130)
06/17/2026
Taste of Randolph preview - Action/Adventure (Episode 1130)
Years in the making, Chicago band Action/Adventure joins Car Con Carne ahead of their upcoming performance on the West Stage at the 29th annual Taste of Randolph! Recorded at the wonderful HIDE+SEEK on Randolph, the band talks about their masterful album Ever After, the transition from the remote, high-pressure writing process of Imposter Syndrome, and the realities of life on the road. Plus, they dive into the unique dynamics of their dual-vocal delivery and reveal that writing for their next record is already officially underway. ## Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery, and other merchandising needs. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Taste of Randolph preview - Julie Darling (Episode 1129)
06/17/2026
Taste of Randolph preview - Julie Darling (Episode 1129)
From Hide+Seek (838 W. Randolph Street), James VanOsdol sits down with Julie Darling, the President of the West Loop Community Organization. With the 29th annual Taste of Randolph just days away, Julie shares an insider's look at what it takes to bring the massive, three-day street festival to life. In this episode, Julie previews the event's culinary focal points and highlights some incredible new festival additions. She also addresses the major structural shifts for this year's event, including the decision to completely eliminate the suggested gate donation in favor of a 50/50 cash raffle, and hints at some highly anticipated volunteer bars run by Chicago for Chicagoans and Double Door Rocks. ## Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing, here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Taste of Randolph preview - Gene Farris (Episode 1127)
06/17/2026
Taste of Randolph preview - Gene Farris (Episode 1127)
From Hide+Seek (838 W. Randolph), James VanOsdol sits down with a true Chicago treasure and underground legend, house music icon Gene Farris. With a career spanning more than three decades, Gene is set to close out the East Stage on Friday night at the upcoming 29th annual Taste of Randolph. In this episode, Gene discusses his brand-new single, "This is the World", his aggressive creative mission to release a new track every month, and how he keeps his music current by staying open to learning from the generations that follow him. He also dives deep into the rich history and unmatched talent pool of the Chicago house scene, and shares how his label, Farris Wheel Recordings, has been breaking new artists and providing a platform for independent music since 1998. ## Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing, here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Deanna Belos talks Sincere Engineer's new album, Wil Wheaton, and Rainbow Cone (Episode 1128)
06/10/2026
Deanna Belos talks Sincere Engineer's new album, Wil Wheaton, and Rainbow Cone (Episode 1128)
On a sweltering 90-degree summer day, Deanna Belos of Sincere Engineer joins James VanOsdol in the car for episode 1128 of Car Con Carne. To beat the heat, they enjoy ice cream from Rainbow Cone while diving into the new Sincere Engineer album, Probable Claws, which arrives on June 26th. Deanna shares behind-the-scenes stories about writing the tracks, and how her songwriting has evolved to focus on a more refined, classic structure for this release. The conversation covers the fascinating details behind the album's tracks, including the opening song "Twist My Tongue" and the standout track (and JVO favorite) "LOL," which features a surprise spoken-word introduction from actor Wil Wheaton. Deanna explains how that internet friendship blossomed, leading to a fun discussion about her own name being inspired by Deanna Troi from Star Trek: The Next Generation. She also reveals the hilarious, stealthy process of filming her latest music video inside a Jewel grocery store right before closing time. As Sincere Engineer prepares for a massive summer ahead, Deanna also previews her upcoming performances at major Midwestern festivals, including Summerfest in Milwaukee on June 25th and a return to Chicago for Riot Fest in September. Check out Probable Claws on June 26! ## Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Dan Dougherty launches new ‘Beardo’ Kickstarter for 20th anniversary (Episode 1123)
06/03/2026
Dan Dougherty launches new ‘Beardo’ Kickstarter for 20th anniversary (Episode 1123)
In this episode of Car Con Carne, James VanOsdol catches up with Chicago comic artist and musician Dan Dougherty at Hamburger Heaven in Elmhurst to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Dougherty’s award-winning comic series, Beardo. Dan looks back on the decades-long evolution of the strip, from its late-night origins while working as a barista to its long newspaper runs and modern digital home. The conversation highlights Dan's current Kickstarter campaign for Beardo Volume 7, Generation X-Hausted, a massive collection bringing the brilliant collections current. For the first time ever, the campaign is offering backers a chance to own original, hand-drawn comic strips from the Beardo archives. Find the project on Kickstarter (search “Beardo”), and be sure to get yourself set up with a copy (and cool rewards in the process). Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. Their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between, offering boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Toadies return with new Albini-recorded ‘The Charmer’ (Episode 1126)
06/02/2026
Toadies return with new Albini-recorded ‘The Charmer’ (Episode 1126)
When Clark Vogeler joined the Toadies in 1996, there was no way to imagine the band would still be going, selling out rooms across North America. Thirty years later, the veteran guitarist finds himself navigating a beautifully unpredictable landscape, touring behind The Charmer, a gritty, tough new LP recorded with the late, legendary Steve Albini. Sitting over pizza at The Art of Pizza in Chicago (3033 N Ashland Ave, Chicago, IL 60657), Vogeler reflects on how the band has defied time to become a cross-generational force. From old-school fans to teenagers crowding the front row, the Toadies are experiencing a career renaissance they never could have predicted decades ago. Vogeler pulls back the curtain on the creative process behind the new material, including the dark, self-critical inner voice that inspired frontman Vaden Todd Lewis to write the album's title track as a way of making peace with his own creative friction. Being an independent band in 2026 comes with freedom, a sharp contrast to the major label pressures the Toadies faced in the 1990s. By self-funding their studio time through relentless touring, the band completely owns their masters, ensuring their creative output stays entirely in their own hands. As they prepare to share the stage at the Vic Theatre with Local H, Vogeler chats about the camaraderie of the road, the enduring legacy of Steve Albini, and why age has absolutely nothing to do with making great, muscular rock and roll. Featured Sponsor: Exploding House Printing Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery, and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever—their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Is Bask the ‘turducken of rock?’ (Episode 1125)
05/30/2026
Is Bask the ‘turducken of rock?’ (Episode 1125)
Zeb and Ray from the fantastic North Carolina band Bask join me for this episode as we chat on the back patio of Livewire Lounge in Chicago’s Avondale neighborhood. Bask released their epic, genre-defying album The Turning last year, blending elements of psych, prog, atmospheric rock, and country into an incredibly awesome, cinematic vibe. We dig into their collaborative songwriting evolution, how they execute their massive sonic dynamics, and how their music serves as a true journey for the listener. Plus, since the interview fell on Zeb's birthday, we talk about the band's essential Chicago birthday stop: hitting up Johnny's Beef in Elmwood Park (this band knows how to maximize their tour down time). Support Our Sponsor Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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L7 takes victory lap on ‘Last Hurrah’ tour (Episode 1124)
05/29/2026
L7 takes victory lap on ‘Last Hurrah’ tour (Episode 1124)
L7 takes victory lap on ‘Last Hurrah’ tour (Episode 1124) L7 is embarking on their final run, The Last Hurrah Tour, capping off a legendary career with a final celebration of iconic songs, hooks, and unforgettable riffs. For Chicago fans, the circle closes at the Vic Theatre on Sunday, November 1, a stage the band hasn’t commanded since 1994. In this episode, L7 co-founder, guitarist, and vocalist Donita Sparks joins the show to reflect on the long road, the band’s legacy, and what it means to finally say goodbye on their own terms. Donita looks back at the band's transition from its indie roots to early 90s alternative mainstays and highlights along the way, like being anointed by John Waters for Serial Mom. "We wanted our gender to not be relevant... we just wanted to prove in a punk rock way that you could throw a band together, work hard, and go on tour." — Donita Sparks Beyond the nostalgia, Donita dives deep into the sonic DNA of L7, explaining why they will always be a "guitar band, not a vocal band." She opens up about the realities of the 90s major label system, the resilience it took to create The Beauty Process: Triple Platinum, and the joy of reconnecting with fans over the last decade. It’s a candid conversation about hard work, and ultimately, a mission accomplished. The end is near, and you don’t want to miss the last hurrah. Press play and check out the full conversation with Donita Sparks. (Permission to use “Fuel My Fire” and the associated tour video sizzle kindly provided by L7/rights holders) ## Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever: their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing. Besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Meet me in Golden Sands - Exploring Rachel Lichtman’s corner of the multiverse (Episode 1122)
05/27/2026
Meet me in Golden Sands - Exploring Rachel Lichtman’s corner of the multiverse (Episode 1122)
Was life better before the digital era? That’s the rhetorical question at the heart of Golden Sands, the immersive, totally analog experience created by Rachel Lichtman. She recently jumped in the car to talk about her upcoming Programme 4: The Affiliate Sales Presentation show at Evanston's SPACE on May 27th. Described as a station from an alternate timeline that simply never stopped broadcasting, the traveling show forces audiences to sit with media in a way that modern streaming interfaces disrupt. Lichtman notes that our modern "handheld casinos" offer so many options that choice paralysis sets in, torpedoing our attention and severing our cultural connection. I love the fact that these shows rely purely on old-school, word-of-mouth curation to bring people together.Described as a station from an alternate timeline that simply never stopped broadcasting, the traveling show forces audiences to sit with media in a way that modern streaming interfaces disrupt. Lichtman notes that our modern "handheld casinos" offer so many options that choice paralysis sets in, torpedoing our attention and severing our cultural connection. I love the fact that these shows rely purely on old-school, word-of-mouth curation to bring people together. The event is a highly collaborative, scripted performance inspired by the bizarre world of corporate industrial musicals and 1970s television. The performance features a stellar cast of local and national talent, including Chicago media legend Rich Koz, Dag Juhlin, Jon Langford, Kelly Hogan, Joel Murray, Nora O’Connor, and Chris Murphy. Dag brings “Rod Kellogg” to life, a buttoned-up host surrounded by a world of mid-century grooviness he doesn't quite understand. With custom set designs, a live Rhodes piano providing a nostalgic soundscape, Programme 4 offers a needed, temporary escape from the digital world. I can’t wait. To see the full schedule of upcoming dates, make the scene over at programme4.tv.
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Elevating concerts to next-level experiential moments: Robb Jibson (So Midwest) - Episode 1121
05/07/2026
Elevating concerts to next-level experiential moments: Robb Jibson (So Midwest) - Episode 1121
"We're a little egoless. We're happy to just do the content, be a part of the lighting, or help anybody execute and create something cool." — Robb Jibson In this episode, I sit down with Robb Jibson, the founder and creative director of So Midwest, a Chicago-based production design firm. Robb has spent decades building the visual experiences that define live music for artists like Fall Out Boy, Incubus, and Panic! At The Disco. We discuss his journey from a teenager in Michigan to the center of the concert production world. Episode highlights The "Tetanus" origin story: Robb recounts his early days in a metal band called Tetanus and how an attempt to use car headlights for stage lighting led to a run-in with the law and a formative stint doing community service at the Frauenthal Theater. Touring with the Backstreet Boys: At just 19 years old, Robb landed a spot on a tour with the Backstreet Boys during the height of their popularity. The birth of So Midwest: Originally started as a tax shelter while touring with Incubus, the company name was inspired by a simple 1-inch button found at the Empty Bottle. The shift to motion graphics: Robb explains how the industry transitioned from "smoky beams of light" to complex video content and 3D animation around 2007. Working with Chicago legends: We talk about his long-standing relationships with local favorites like Alkaline Trio, The Lawrence Arms, and Chevelle. Follow So Midwest: Visit to learn more. Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing! Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa, and their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Colombian music icon Andrés Cepeda starts his US tour in Chicago (Episode 1120)
05/01/2026
Colombian music icon Andrés Cepeda starts his US tour in Chicago (Episode 1120)
In this episode of Car Con Carne, host James VanOsdol talks with Colombian icon Andrés Cepeda. A multi-Latin Grammy winner and 2026 Grammy nominee for his album Bogota, Cepeda visits the podcast to discuss his upcoming performance at the Riviera Theatre on May 10. This Chicago date marks the beginning of the final leg of a tour that has spanned two years and multiple continents. Highlights from the conversation Cepeda reflects on his 30 years in the music industry, offering insights into his creative process and his evolution from a teenage rock musician to a global solo artist. Starting the US tour in Chicago: Although the tour routing began in Chicago due to logistics, Cepeda shares his excitement about returning to the city where he has performed on several previous tours. The power of storytelling: Cepeda explains how sharing the anecdotes behind his songs helps him connect with multi-generational audiences, including those who may not be familiar with his music. Finding an authentic voice: Having served as a mentor on The Voice and The Voice Kids, Cepeda emphasizes the importance of originality for independent artists. He suggests that authenticity is the only way to stand out in a world where thousands of songs are released daily. The recording of Bogota: The album was recorded in Los Angeles and Bogota using analog techniques. Cepeda describes the experience of "locking himself in" with a band for weeks to capture a more organic, realistic sound. What comes next: As the Bogota tour concludes, Cepeda is already looking toward the future. He plans to begin a new project in July and is working with several producers on a fresh album this summer. Event details Catch Andrés Cepeda live as he kicks off his latest run of shows. Venue: Riviera Theatre (Lawrence and Broadway, Chicago) Date: May 10, 2026 The Show: A full band performance featuring musicians who have collaborated with Cepeda for over 20 years. Support for Car Con Carne Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever: their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing. Besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at @explodinghouse, or check out their site at explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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When We Was Kids - evading grammar police and bending genres (Episode 1119)
04/30/2026
When We Was Kids - evading grammar police and bending genres (Episode 1119)
In this episode of Car Con Carne, James VanOsdol welcomes the Chicago-based band When We Was Kids to the car. Band members Chris, Mike, and Mark dive into their evolution from childhood rivals in the Cicero and Berwyn music scenes to becoming a technical, genre-bending powerhouse. The group discusses their newest release, A Maudlin Floor in Watercolor, which dropped in November 2025. They share the stories behind standout tracks like "Slutwalk" and "Crazy Guy," while reflecting on their formative years at the Motel 66 Cicero DIY venue. Highlights from the conversation The rivalries: The band members recall their early days in competing grade school bands, and how they eventually merged their pop-punk and instrumental prog influences. The double album: Get a sneak peek into their next massive project: a potential double album! The songwriting process: Chris explores the personal experiences and "cry for help" lyrics that define their intense compositions. See them live Catch When We Was Kids at these upcoming Chicago shows: May 1: Cole's June 11: Reggies This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Visit their website at for all your merch needs.
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Sean Mulroney on the future of Double Door and Gallery Cabaret (Episode 1118)
04/20/2026
Sean Mulroney on the future of Double Door and Gallery Cabaret (Episode 1118)
James VanOsdol sits down with Sean Mulroney at the legendary Gallery Cabaret in Bucktown to discuss the evolving landscape of Chicago’s music scene. Mulroney, the owner of Double Door, shares major updates regarding the iconic venue’s future and his new role as the operator of Gallery Cabaret. A new chapter at Gallery Cabaret After 38 years as a Bucktown staple, Gallery Cabaret is undergoing a revitalization under Mulroney’s guidance. The goal is to preserve the dive bar’s classic Chicago vibe while elevating the experience for artists and patrons. Upgraded Sound: The venue now features a professional sound system, incorporating high-end gear from the Double Door collection. Community Focus: The heart of the bar remains its open mic nights, which provide a platform for everyone from jazz musicians to poets. Staff Continuity: To maintain the bar's soul, Mulroney has retained a mix of legacy staff and new team members. The pivot of Double Door Mulroney provides a candid update on the Double Door relocation. While the previously announced move to the Wilson Theater in Uptown is no longer moving forward, the brand is far from dead. "Double Door was never intended to be a nine million dollar venue. The math doesn't work for a 750-capacity club." The high costs and rigid requirements of city grant programs made the Wilson Theater project unfeasible. Instead, Mulroney is currently scouting a new location that aligns with the "roadhouse" spirit of the original Double Door. He is currently working through zoning and city requirements to bring this new vision to life. Open mic and booking information Gallery Cabaret continues to be a home for local talent. Musicians, poets, and performers of all stripes are encouraged to participate in the weekly schedule: Sundays: Open Mic (Sign-up at 6:30 PM). Tuesdays: Open Mic hosted by Victor. Thursdays: Open Mic hosted by Kelly Wazer. Artists interested in booking a set or showing art can reach out to the venue directly at bookinggallerycabaret@gmail.com. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients. You can always expect prompt and quick communication as they're a small company and are hyper-focused on making your vision a reality. Their goal isn't just to print another t-shirt; you put your heart and soul into your project or business- they want their work to reflect that passion, as well. Email info at exploding house printing dot com for a quote today. Upcoming event: Local music night James VanOsdol will be at Gallery Cabaret on Wednesday, April 22, spinning an all-Chicago music set. Stop by to hear local favorites and celebrate the city's rich musical history.
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The Arrivals chat about their first album in 15 years, Payload (Episode 1117)
04/17/2026
The Arrivals chat about their first album in 15 years, Payload (Episode 1117)
Recorded on a drizzly Monday in the Fulton Market neighborhood, this episode features Little Dave Merriman and Ronnie DiCola of the long-running Chicago melodic punk band, The Arrivals. The band recently released Payload, their first full-length album in 15 years. Dave and Ronnie join James VanOsdol to discuss the evolution of the group, the challenges of promoting music in the age of TikTok, and the deep personal stories behind the new tracks. Highlights: A long-awaited return: After 15 years, the band explains that the hiatus was not exactly intentional. Life changes: Between moving to different cities and managing adult responsibilities, time simply slipped away. Capturing energy: They finally committed to recording after realizing the timing felt right to revisit old demos and capture new energy. Family and maturity: The track This Is What It Feels Like was originally written as a simple song for Dave’s young daughter. Growth: Over time, it evolved into a more complex exploration of self-acceptance and emotional growth that resonates with the band's older perspective. Blue Island roots: The band reflects on their connection to Blue Island, Illinois. Community: They describe the town as a place filled with honest, hardworking people who know how to have fun. The DIY spirit: From producing music videos to recording on a worn-out eight-track digital recorder, the band continues to embrace a hands-on approach to their craft. Payload is available now on all major platforms. Car Con Carne is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. They are the local experts in Chicago for screen printing, embroidery, and band merchandise. Join me at Gallery Cabaret on Wednesday April 22nd for a night of local music! It’s only my second time DJing - what can go wrong?
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The world’s best ‘soft punk gestalt rock’ band is back: Man’s Body (Episode 1116)
04/11/2026
The world’s best ‘soft punk gestalt rock’ band is back: Man’s Body (Episode 1116)
James VanOsdol sits down with J. and Greg from the Chicago/Los Angeles hybrid band Man's Body. They dive into the creation of their latest release, For All the Jailhouse Chess Masters, a project that marks a shift toward a more political and collaborative songwriting process for the group. Highlights: The sound of 'Gestalt rock': J. and Greg discuss the evolution of their sound and how their new five-piece lineup has solidified their musical identity since forming in 2016. For All the Jailhouse Chess Masters: A look at the new 12 inch EP, which is limited to a run of only 100 copies on vinyl and features a double-sided insert with hidden "Easter eggs." Political and personal themes: The band discusses the heavy inspiration behind specific tracks, including the anti-establishment sentiment of American Fire Sale and the deeply personal processing of grief in Crazy Person Song. The banality of the 9-5: A breakdown of Artless and Working Blues, a song that captures the soul-crushing experience of corporate life, specifically the dreaded "cake in the break room." Vinyl nerdiness: James, Greg, and Jay bond over their record collections, discussing everything from Gary Numan and The Cramps to the influence of Kid Congo Powers. The live experience: Why the band views a live performance not as a series of individual songs, but as a single, continuous "roller coaster" that allows for a unique form of self-actualization. EVENT NOTICE: James VanOsdol will be spinning local music at Gallery Cabaret on Wednesday April 22nd (2020 N. Oakley)! ## Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, and they focus on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. And Jonathan, the guy behind Exploding House, has you covered. Beyond his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients. Their goal isn't just to print another t-shirt; you put your heart and soul into your project or business- they want their work to reflect that passion, as well. Email info at exploding house printing dot com for a quote today.
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Inside the Illinois Rock & Roll Museum on Route 66 (Episode 1115)
04/05/2026
Inside the Illinois Rock & Roll Museum on Route 66 (Episode 1115)
In this episode of Car Con Carne, James heads to downtown Joliet to step inside a three-story vault of local musical history. He sits down with founder Ron Romero to explore how a "germ of an idea" from 2012 evolved into the Illinois Rock & Roll Museum on Route 66. Why you should listen: The "Underdog" Location: Discover why this massive project planted its roots in Joliet rather than Chicago, and how it’s helping revitalize the "crossroads of Mid-America." Redefining the Hall of Fame: Learn about the museum's "all music is connected" philosophy—from Mavis Staples to Naked Raygun—and how they are using a community Wiki to honor every band in Illinois history. Preserving the Future: It’s not just a collection of gear. Get a sneak peek at the museum’s lower-level recording studios and classrooms designed to train the next generation of roadies, engineers, and rock stars. The Gear: Hear the stories behind artifacts from REO Speedwagon, Cheap Trick, Styx, and the legendary Chicago Blues scene. Don’t miss: James will be spinning a 100% Illinois-minted set at Gallery Cabaret in Bucktown on Wednesday, April 22, from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. ### Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, and they focus on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. And Jonathan, the guy behind Exploding House, has you covered. Beyond his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Recreating PiL’s ‘The Flowers of Romance’ live w/ Martin Atkins (ex-PiL drummer) (Episode 1114)
03/23/2026
Recreating PiL’s ‘The Flowers of Romance’ live w/ Martin Atkins (ex-PiL drummer) (Episode 1114)
In this episode, Martin Atkins (Public Image Ltd., Killing Joke, Pigface) joins the show from his Post-Punk and Industrial Music Museum to discuss the upcoming 45th-anniversary recreation of Public Image Ltd.’s third album, The Flowers of Romance. On Saturday, April 11, Martin returns to Reggie’s in Chicago with a "murderers' row" of talent, including Chris Connelly, Robert Byrne, Leyla Royale, Orville Kline, Alicia Gaines, and Alan Lake, to bring the stark, experimental, and percussive record back to the stage. Martin reflects on the "Music Concrete" nature of the original recording sessions, which were defined by improvisation and disregard for traditional rock structures. He shares fascinating stories behind the album's signature sounds, such as the ticking of a Mickey Mouse watch used for the track "Four Enclosed Walls" and the CO2 fire extinguisher that opens "Under the House". He also sheds light on the band’s internal dynamics during that era, including the departure of bassist Jah Wobble and Keith Levene’s intense focus on video game. The conversation also covers Martin’s recent performance of Killing Joke’s “Extremities” and his complex, perhaps a bit strained, relationship with John Lydon. Martin discusses how his museum has become a surprising hub for younger generations who are just now discovering the textures and stories of the post-punk movement. I adore Martin, respect his career and business mind, and always love talking with him. Hope you enjoy the chat, and to see you at Reggie’s! ### This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit for a quote.
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Finding community and catharsis: Cat Ayala of Scarlet Demore (Episode 1113)
03/12/2026
Finding community and catharsis: Cat Ayala of Scarlet Demore (Episode 1113)
This episode of Car Con Carne features Cat Ayala, the frontwoman for the Chicago band Scarlet Demore. James and Cat discuss the band's impressive trajectory, moving from DIY basement shows to playing Thalia Hall and Lincoln Hall and performing at Lollapalooza. The conversation covers several key areas: The Evolution of Sound: Cat explains the shift from their earlier melodic "pop" perspective to the heavier, more experimental, and post-grunge sound found on their upcoming full-length record. The Writing Process: A look into how Cat uses songwriting as a form of catharsis and why she often needs time and perspective to process emotions before putting them to paper. Life on the Road: The reality of "van feelings" and the mental toll of touring, contrasted with the excitement of their upcoming tour. Community and Representation: The importance of being a voice for young women in the music scene and creating a safe, supportive environment at their live shows. Scarlet Demore kicks off their tour at Beat Kitchen on May 8th, where fans can expect to hear plenty of new material. ### This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit for a quote.
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The DIY evolution: Cult Canyon’s Josh Chicoine on the making of ‘Smoke Tricks’ (Episode 1112)
03/05/2026
The DIY evolution: Cult Canyon’s Josh Chicoine on the making of ‘Smoke Tricks’ (Episode 1112)
In this episode of Car Con Carne, James VanOsdol welcomes Josh Chicoine, the creative force behind Cult Canyon, to discuss the release of the debut album, Smoke Tricks. The conversation delves into the evolution of Josh's musical projects, from the raw energy of the M's and the acoustic harmonies of Cloudbirds to the collaborative and sophisticated sound of Cult Canyon. Key Highlights: The Making of Smoke Tricks: Josh explains how the album, initially inspired by string arrangements recorded in 2019, was brought to life through a grant from the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events (DCASE). Creative Collaborations: The album features contributions from talented musicians like Alison Chesley, Susan Voelz, and Dave Max Crawford, as well as backup vocals from Melissa Busch-Wolford and Lindsay Weinberg. DIY Spirit: Josh shares his experiences with the DIY approach to music, from producing and promoting records to filming music videos with a GoPro and a vintage VHS filter. The Influence of Chicago: The city of Chicago serves as a backdrop for the album, with Josh reflecting on his relationship with the city and the local music scene. Second Hand News: Josh and James discuss his involvement in the Fleetwood Mac tribute band, Second Hand News, and the transgenerational appeal of the legendary band's music. Album Information: Item Details Artist Cult Canyon Album Title Smoke Tricks Release Date March 13, 2026 Label Rattleback Records Release Show The Hideout, March 14, 2026 This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit for a quote. Episode Transcript James VanOsdol: This right here is Car Con Carne. Car Con Carne is a Q101 podcast. I'm James VanOsdol. Car Con Carne is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. They’re based in Hermosa and they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Check them out on explodinghouseprinting.com. Get a quote, see all the people, businesses, bands, and brands that they’ve worked with. Explodinghouseprinting.com. (Theme song plays) James VanOsdol: So, after the Golden Line EP a few years ago, Cult Canyon is set to release its debut album, Smoke Tricks, on March 13th. The album will be released on lovely vinyl via Rattleback Records and the release will be celebrated with a live show at The Hideout the following night. Josh Chicoine, whose creative resume is deep, impressive, and familiar, joins me in the car on a rainy, dreary, just kind of shitty transitional winter-into-spring night. Josh Chicoine: Muck, winter mix. James VanOsdol: Let’s talk about Cult Canyon. We’re here, the album’s almost out as we’re sitting here talking about it. Josh Chicoine: It is. James VanOsdol: A lot of us came to know you from your time with the M’s earlier this century. Have you metaphorically moved from the garage to the living room with these projects? Josh Chicoine: It feels like I have. I mean, there was definitely a lot of garage influences happening with the M's. Certainly a DIY spirit. James VanOsdol: That kind of raw immediacy. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, I think we were trying to—well, it was of the time too. So this was the early 2000s, there was a lot of that stuff rolling around. And we kind of fit into that mix and just wanted to bring our own little flavor, which is heavily melodic, a lot of singing, a lot of gang vocals, which is one of my favorite things to do. And still, I guess, pop ethos, you know? Major and minor chords, nothing crazy. But yeah, we got done with that and I started a three-piece singing group called Cloudbirds and did that for about three years with a couple of guys that were in the M’s also, Joey King and Glenn Russell. And that was definitely in the living room. That was acoustic guitars, sometimes we had electric, but mostly acoustic music and three-part harmonies and very folky. And it was a real welcome relief, I’d say, to almost 10 years of loud guitars and bashing drums and shouting vocals. James VanOsdol: You weren’t pounding kids anymore. Josh Chicoine: We were not. We were not, and we kind of got started late anyway. So by the time 2009 rolled around, I was probably in my mid-30s, early 30s, everybody was kind of getting into their 30s. So being on the road was just awful. I think I was about ready to have my first child. And so yeah, the whole kind of idea shifted. And so we just couldn’t sustain that. So being in a singing group and just three guys, a lot easier to organize practices and singing some sweet melodies and harmonies, and that was more my style. And I kind of chased that for a little while, and then I had a new band called Sabres and I tried to do the rock thing again in 2014 and self-released that record, put a lot of time into that record. And it was another big record. And I found out I was just really tired. The DIY thing is that you have to do it yourself. So that means producing the record, promoting the record, getting all the artwork together, getting five people—now more grown people—to get together for any rehearsal, any show. I thought it was going to maybe be a bit easier, but it just wasn't. It wasn't easy, so I had to put that down. James VanOsdol: DIY is hard. We’re doing DIY right now in a car on urban radio in 2026. I do it in my car with a couple of cheap—see how the world has shifted for us both. Josh Chicoine: It has. I might say for the better. James VanOsdol: One would argue or could argue that, yeah. We’re our own bosses. Josh Chicoine: I think so. Yeah, there you go. James VanOsdol: You’re the CEO of Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: I am the CEO of Cult Canyon. I have a lot of contributors and collaborators, which I’m very thankful for. James VanOsdol: Let’s talk about some of them. Alison Chesley is a contributor. Josh Chicoine: She is. She is actually appearing on the latest record. To go back to the Golden Line EP in 2019, so right before COVID, I released an EP called Josh Chicoine and it was called Dream Believers. And I was imagining this trajectory where the next bunch of songs would include a string quartet. And so in 2019, early 2019, I recorded three songs including with Susan Voelz, who’s a good friend also. James VanOsdol: She’s delightful. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, she’s delightful, she’s an old friend, she’s a great contributor, what a great spirit. And with her and a few other string players. And then COVID came, so I sat on this thing. And I sat on this thing for quite a while because part of the DIY situation that we’re in now is that there’s so much noise and there’s so many competing avenues for attention, including your couch doing nothing. That’s a big one. James VanOsdol: Yeah. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, so I sat on it and I didn’t know what I was going to do. And so I applied for a grant. It was really the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events here in Chicago, they have an individual artist program, DCASE. James VanOsdol: DCASE. Shout out to DCASE. Josh Chicoine: They have a grant program every year, and I applied and I said, you know, I’m coming back into making things and this is what I want to do. I want to make a rock record in the city of Chicago using Chicago musicians out of Chicago studios. And that was really the kind of impetus to be like, okay, what do I want this Cult Canyon thing to be? And so that’s when I looked back at those Golden Line songs, which are really lush string arrangements done by our good friend Dave Max Crawford of Poi Dog Pondering and the Total Pro Horns. And he does a fantastic job. I’ve been collaborating with him since the M’s, he did a lot of those string arrangements and horn arrangements and stuff, so he’s really adept and really tasteful. And so I was just like, why not bring it into everything that I’m doing and make Cult Canyon more of a catch-all and a place where, for one, I can do what I want and I can do it with others that I want to do it with, people that I love. And yeah, Alison Chesley, I met her through Susan because playing with quartets, you end up having a large stable of artists because people are busy or they want more money than you want to give them or can give them on any given night. So I was able to meet and reach out to a bunch of string players and continually find new ones in town that can fill a role for a time. And happily, Alison is on this record on a tune called Good Bad Habits. James VanOsdol: I love it. And the album sounds great. Now, we’re recording this right before it comes out, like I said. The album is Smoke Tricks. We’ve had—we, the public—have experienced some of it already. Real Sublime is a single. You shot a video for this one. Josh Chicoine: I did. James VanOsdol: Was that your house you shot it in? Josh Chicoine: That was at my house, yeah. James VanOsdol: Very tastefully appointed. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. That’s all due to my wife. James VanOsdol: You’ve got you in a convertible on the lakefront. Josh Chicoine: That’s my buddy Al’s ‘67 Oldsmobile. James VanOsdol: That’s badass. Josh Chicoine: Pretty badass. We all need a buddy like Al. Al’s the best. James VanOsdol: Convertible on the drive, clearly different time of year from when we’re recording this. Josh Chicoine: Yeah. James VanOsdol: And is that the lake you jumped into or did you shoot that— Josh Chicoine: Yeah, jumped into the lake. Another good friend of mine is a Great Lake jumper, Dan O’Conor. James VanOsdol: He’s a celebrated Great Lake jumper. Josh Chicoine: They continually celebrate Great Lake jumper. I think he did it for five years straight every day. And yeah, so I started going out there and doing that. So it wasn’t so far afield to imagine, because what are videos now? I don’t even know what they are. But for this one, it was like, all right, Al, let’s get in a car, let’s drive around. I got this GoPro, I’ll stick it to your car, drive around, and then let’s go to the lake and let’s jump in the lake. James VanOsdol: So it doesn’t necessarily tie back to the lyrics or the theme? Josh Chicoine: I don’t think so. I mean, but maybe somebody sees something that I don’t. I think that’s part of my MO, at least, is to leave enough fog to allow for some interpretation. But yeah, this is more of kind of a performance, roll around, get some good footage, put a 1989 VHS filter on it and make it look cool and get it out. James VanOsdol: And you’re a fan of film and what can be done with movies. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I love film, I love movies, I love music movies. For eight years I was the co-founder and director of the Chicago International Movies and Music Festival. And we were all over the place throughout the city. And we would show movies from all over the world, like 33 countries usually were represented each year. And that was just, for me, was fascinating to figure out how to build something like that that could last and to raise money for it, you know, practicing all these adult skills that being in a van in a band on tour you’re not really practicing too much. James VanOsdol: Do you miss doing CIMMfest? Josh Chicoine: There’s a lot of it that I do. I really miss just the people and the spirit. I mean, we had an incredible group of volunteers that would come every year and really they were the ones that were able to activate this thing. And so I loved sitting around and dreaming, I loved building marketing materials, if only because then I could have something to go and take to people that I knew and a network that I was building. And I thought it was really a cool thing for the city and it really got me in touch with a lot of old friends and made so many new friends and it kept me—this was right after the M’s, and the M’s were kind of media darlings and played a lot of shows and, you know, I knew a lot of club owners and I knew publicists and I knew all that network. So it kind of allowed me personally to stay connected to that world. And coming out of there, that’s what my kind of career goals were. I was just like, okay, I want to stay in this world, I want to stay connected to these people. So it was my friend Ilko Davidov, who’s a Bulgarian filmmaker, and it was his concept. And I was just sort of the right person that was able to come and hoodwink a bunch of people into coming on board and giving me a bunch of money and being able to try to make this thing into a sustainable institution. We never quite got there. It’s always resource-light and operations-heavy. And never quite got there, but still just some great memories and really happy and really proud of what we were able to build. James VanOsdol: Thinking about film and music and making short music films, I’ve wondered this out loud on this podcast before, but I feel like this is a golden moment. This is the time for artists to explore that side of things. I mean, it’s not like the 1980s when I grew up, when videos were bankrolled by record labels and there were millions of dollars. Like, you grabbed a GoPro, you sit it on the dash—like, this is a real opportunity for creative expression, I think. I just don’t know if enough independent artists are taking advantage of it. Josh Chicoine: I mean, if you look at—I’ll have to disagree, I feel like, you know, the barriers are down and people now, everybody’s got a pretty decent camera in their pocket at all times. Since the barriers are down and since everybody’s got a camera, you can do whatever you want, put it up there, and not going to say it’s good, most of it’s not, most of it’s schlock. But you at least have the opportunity to make something that’s decent and the technology affords it. You don't even need to be great at editing. You can cobble stuff together. You really can. I mean, I use a really cheap editing software. James VanOsdol: Can I ask? Josh Chicoine: It’s called CapCut. And the same company, I can’t remember what they’re called, the TikTok corporation, ByteDance. It’s a ByteDance product. And I got it because it was cheap and another friend of mine was using it. And he was making some cool stuff, so I was just like, all right, I’m just going to dive in and start doing stuff. And so that’s what I did. James VanOsdol: That’s DIY. Roll up your sleeves, let’s get to it. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it’s just—I had spent CIMMfest was so much about favors and so much about waiting for favors from people that you were either getting a deep discount from or not paying at all. And I know the pain, you know? And it’s real. So if you have any kind of means by which you can get a hold of this stuff, then it’s just about putting the work in and, you know, time is mine to give or throw away. So, yeah, it’s just sort of—I keep getting better and better, I mean other people can be the judge of that, but I feel pretty good about what I’ve been able to do with hardly any resources. James VanOsdol: It’s pretty cool. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it’s pretty cool. James VanOsdol: All right, going back to this album Smoke Tricks again, available on March 13th. Bitter Birdies is how we begin. If you listen close, actually you don’t even need to listen that closely, there are dogs barking at the beginning of the song. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, Ralfy. James VanOsdol: I was going to ask. Josh Chicoine: It’s my doggie. James VanOsdol: And you were aware when you were recording the dog was part of it, right? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, well, my producer, my co-producer on this was Todd Rittmann and Todd Rittmann was in US Maple. I don’t know if you remember that band. Affiliated with Cheer-Accident, of course. James VanOsdol: Of course, always interesting. Josh Chicoine: Yes. Now he’s in Dead Rider, for everybody out there who’s watching, check out Dead Rider. Yeah, he’s fascinating, he’s got a great little studio called Shy Diamond Studio down in Logan, just north of Fullerton. And, you know, him and I kind of cobbled this thing together. And I never expected that the piano tracks were the final. So I would just make demos at my house and then I would send them to Todd and I’d be like, “Here’s what I’m thinking for this song,” and then we would try and fit it in somehow. And he was just—he’s like a maestro. He was just like, “I love it, you’re never taking away the dog’s bark. We’re keeping it in there 100%.” So I was like, “All right, let’s go.” Piano sounded fine, sounded good, it’s my piano in my living room. I loved it, and that’s my boy Ralfy. So he’s my spirit animal and I’m glad he’s on the record too. James VanOsdol: Good boy, Ralfy. Josh Chicoine: He’s a very good boy. James VanOsdol: On this song, I know you want people to interpret songs as, you know, as any artist would suggest, like you want to feel a connection, right? But you do mention “stuck here in Chicago” in that song. Were you feeling—do you feel a weird relationship with the city? Josh Chicoine: I think I love Chicago. It’s my favorite city. It’s especially my favorite city to come back to. I don’t know if you’ve ever leave for like a little while, but when you come back, it’s just like—ah. Especially when you’re driving back home and like you catch that first glimpse of the skyline. That is a moment. It’s real. So, I mean, when I got that grant from DCASE, it was like, “Oh no, now I got to write a record.” They called your bluff. Every time for me, at least, I decide to write a record, I have to figure out how to write a record again. And that—it’s like a lot of introspection and a lot of like, “Who am I now? What am I going to write about now?” And it takes a long—it took me a long time. And Bitter Birdies kind of came about based upon that piano that opens it up. I had that piece for a long time, but sort of like lyrically I wasn’t quite sure. And my wife and I are going to be married 25 years in June. James VanOsdol: Congratulations, that’s a big milestone. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. It’s been wonderful. But seven years into our relationship, there was a breakup. Post-college, I mean I was dating her since I was 19. I’ve known her for a long time. So yeah, moved to Chicago, joined a band, you know, our lives were diverging. And so we broke up. And she went—she quit her job, she was like working at a financial firm downtown. I was in a band, so you can see divergence. For sure. But yeah, she quit her job, she went on walkabout in Europe for six months. And I took myself back to that time. And that time was sort of very freeing and very fun at the beginning, and then the longing just really set in and, you know, the longer my notes and messages would go to her, the shorter and shorter that they came back to me. So it appeared like she was moving on and there was something really heart-wrenching about that for me. So yeah, that song was about that. So, you know, she was having this really great experience and seeing all new things and new people and I was here stuck in Chicago. So I was living in a loft space where Salvage One is now off of Hubbard, between Wood and Wolcott. With these crazy artist people and there were raves and I was making a bunch of music. So it was just like this Kevin Bacon Quicksilver life that I was living. And I just started to really miss her, no matter what I was just like, “What if she came back here and she lived with me in this hovel and we could do this together?” And that’s sort of the kind of emotional impulse that I felt from writing that and wanting to get out of it, you know, wanting to get out of that space. So nothing against Chicago, I love Chicago, but you know there’s definitely moments where you’re just like,...
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LATTER: Equal Parts Art Project and Band (Episode 1111)
02/24/2026
LATTER: Equal Parts Art Project and Band (Episode 1111)
Episode Overview In this episode of Car Con Carne, host James VanOsdol welcomes Meredith and Jon from the Chicago-based band Latter. Described as "equal parts art project and band," Latter delivers a sound that is jarring, experimental, and unapologetically intense. James talks with the duo about their integration into the local heavy music scene, and the raw, emotional alchemy that defines their creative process. What You’ll Hear in This Episode The "Latter" Origin Story: How a "just for funsies" Instagram post and a mutual friend brought together a New Jersey transplant and the drummer from Beach Bunny to form this formidable duo. Songwriting as Catharsis: Meredith explains why her lyrics are fueled by raw emotion, channeling whatever she is "pissed off about"—from the state of the world to personal struggles—into the music. World-Building Through Visuals: A look at the band's cinematic approach, from rmusic videos to curated Pinterest mood boards for future releases. Left-Handed Synergy: A fun look at the "similar genes" and creative connection Meredith and Jon share as two left-handed musicians. What’s Next: Details on their Audiotree session dropping March 4th and their upcoming May tour supporting Faetooth Featured Music & Mentions Album: My Body is My Sickness (2024) EP: What Lives Inside Me (2025) Key Tracks: "Bloodlines," "Expiration Date," “Callous,” and "I Don’t Owe You.” Local Ties: Shoutouts to The Empty Bottle, SubT, and their engineer Pete, the "King of Tones". About the Guests Meredith: Vocals/Guitar. A sound artist and musician originally from New Jersey and Philadelphia who uses Latter as a vehicle to "exorcise demons". Jon: Drums/Bass. Known also for his work in Beach Bunny, Jon explores his love for heavy, propulsive music and experimental tones with Latter. Sponsor Spotlight This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit for a quote.
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The history of Chicago dining told in new ‘oral history’ book (Episode 1110)
02/20/2026
The history of Chicago dining told in new ‘oral history’ book (Episode 1110)
Mike Gebert is one of my all-time favorite food writers - he’s a James Beard award-winner who just published a deep reaching oral history of Chicago’s culinary scene called “The Chicago Way: An Oral History of Chicago Dining.” Mike talked to the big names, big personalities and big story tellers who contributed to decades of incredible American cuisine. He returns to the podcast for the first time in over six (!) years to talk about his excellent new book, and all the restaurants, chefs, and eyewitnesses mentioned within. __ Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa, and their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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The Effigies + the Evictions (Episode 1109)
02/17/2026
The Effigies + the Evictions (Episode 1109)
In advance of their show at Cobra Lounge on Sunday, 2/21, I’m joined by members of the Effigies and the Evictions at Cobra! Paul, Steve, and Andy from the Effigies and Johnny from the Evictions jumped in the car to preview the show and talk about the long history of Chicago music and punk. We also were treated to new items from Cobra’s pizza menu, thanks to Chef Jason: Dragged Through the Garden - poppy seed crust, sliced hot dogs, onion, sport peppers, dill pickles, green relish, mustard and celery salt Louie’s Pizza - Pepperoni, giardiniera, and calabrian chili oil Both pizzas were spectacular, but I think the hot dog pizza was really something extra special. See you at Cobra on Saturday! Apologies for not also having the Bollweevils on this episode - looks like I’ll have to have Daryl on again soon. Cobra Lounge (235 N. Ashland) - Saturday 2/21 - Effigies, Bollweevils, Evictions Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients
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Do the Dale (Episode 1108)
02/16/2026
Do the Dale (Episode 1108)
Are you doin’ the Dale? You should plan on doin’ the Dale. My guests are Shawn Podgurski (DMen/Sybris) and Dave Hornyak (Livewire Lounge), organizers of Doin’ the Dale, an Avondale-centric music and arts festival happening 2/26-3/1. We met outside Avondale Tap and talked about the event, which will include (but isn’t limited to) the following: Thursday 2/26 - Dmen Tap - Art Show Friday 2/27 & Saturday 2/28 - Livewire Lounge 2 days of music Sunday 3/1 - Dmen Tap - Craft Fair This is an exclusively Avondale event - everyone is from the neighborhood. If you’re keeping track, it’ll be (roughly) 15 bands, 7 artists, 7 vendors. And how’s this for the music line-up? Lollygagger, Salvation, Autofobia, Vaudettes, Sharkula, the Sonnets, Reivers, Revel Noise, Freelapse, the Nix, Vince and Lauren, Chancey Brothers, Selfish Lovers, Werewolf Detective, Denim Daisy, Baggy Time I plan on coming out for some of it, and hope you will, too! DO THE DALE. Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Pulling back the curtain on podcasting: A chat with Jaime Black (Episode 1107)
02/06/2026
Pulling back the curtain on podcasting: A chat with Jaime Black (Episode 1107)
Jaime Black (Dynasty Podcasts) has been podcasting for 20+ years, and has a wealth of experience and success behind that history. While not his first time on the podcast, this marks his first time joining me in the car - very exciting stuff. We talk about the art and business of podcasting. It’s a bit “inside baseball,” but I think it’s a conversation that will click with anyone who’s ever taken a DIY approach or who’s worked to build a brand. Jaime’s one of the good ones - I’m thrilled I got to reconnect with him! Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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La Rosa Noir: ‘Existence is resistance … I am doing this for younger me’ (Episode 1106)
01/29/2026
La Rosa Noir: ‘Existence is resistance … I am doing this for younger me’ (Episode 1106)
Yeshi and Zach of La Rosa Noir jump into the car, conveniently parked outside their Pilsen practice space, for a chat about the band’s history, their Riot Fest performance, and new music/happenings for 2026. See La Rosa Noir at the Athenaeum on February 21! Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Time Thieves meet me at “VEGAN TACO HELL” inside Dante’s (Episode 1105)
01/28/2026
Time Thieves meet me at “VEGAN TACO HELL” inside Dante’s (Episode 1105)
Jonathan of Time Thieves returns to the podcast in advance of the band’s LP release show at Empty Bottle on February 26 (also featuring Josh Caterer Trio, Al Scorch, and Earl Gary). We met at Dante’s (1936 W. Chicago), which played host to a Palermo’s Unreal Foods pop-up: VEGAN TACO HELL. Returning guest Mustafa is one of the principals at Palermo’s, and he shared the amazing Crunchwrap and Taco Hell Grande with us - I swear it tasted authentic, and was entirely plant-based. Jonathan and I talk about the suitable-for-framing-and-playing new album, old record players, authentic recording, and the goal of being a one-hit wonder. It’s always a great time with Jonathan - hope you enjoy listening/watching! ## Let’s talk about merch. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.
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Double Identity twins embrace pop, physical media, and metaphor (Episode 1104)
01/22/2026
Double Identity twins embrace pop, physical media, and metaphor (Episode 1104)
Arden and Courtney of Double Identity jump in the car in the dead of winter to talk about the band’s growth, songwriting, live show, and the need for CDs. Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing. Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They’re local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa. Here’s why I want you to consider them for your t-shirts, merch, whatever - their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They’ve worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante’s Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he’s doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients. You can always expect prompt and quick communication as they're a small company and are hyper-focused on making your vision a reality. Their goal isn't just to print another t-shirt; you put your heart and soul into your project or business- they want their work to reflect that passion, as well. Email info at exploding house printing dot com for a quote today.
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