Planet People Podcast
Welcome to Planet People, a podcast that aims to inspire curiosity and cultivate a deeper connection with the natural world. Hosted by Natalie Jane Cibel, a conservation biologist and eco communicator, and Coral Carson, Creative Director and artist. We are excited to share stories that highlight the beauty and importance of our planet's wildlife. The mission of the podcast is to strengthen and share stewardship stories through ethical storytelling.
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42. Mojave Desert Land Trust: Protecting Rare Plants, Lands & Animals in the Mojave Desert w/ Kelly Herbinson & Patrick Emblidge
01/21/2026
42. Mojave Desert Land Trust: Protecting Rare Plants, Lands & Animals in the Mojave Desert w/ Kelly Herbinson & Patrick Emblidge
Join us as we venture into the Mojave Desert with Kelly Herbinson, Executive Director of Mojave Desert Land Trust, and Patrick Emblidge, Plant Conservation Program Manager, whose groundbreaking conservation work reveals the urgent need to protect one of North America’s most iconic and misunderstood ecosystems. Kelly and Patrick share what it means to safeguard the desert’s irreplaceable biodiversity from the iconic Joshua tree facing climate-driven extinction to the thousands of acres permanently protected through conservation easements that preserve rare plants and vulnerable desert species. In an era when deserts are dismissed as barren wastelands even as they face unprecedented threats from climate change and development, this essential conversation challenges us to recognize the Mojave as a vibrant, interconnected ecosystem worthy of fierce protection and to understand how strategic land conservation can become a powerful tool for ensuring these landscapes endure for generations to come. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when climate change threatens the Joshua tree with extinction and development pressures fragment critical desert habitat, Kelly and Patrick’s dedication to protecting Mojave ecosystems through conservation easements, land acquisition, and seed banking stands as a powerful ray of hope by demonstrating that science-driven action and community engagement can permanently safeguard thousands of acres and the rare species that depend on them. This commitment to desert conservation represents hope because it shows us a way forward: land trusts working to permanently protect critical habitat through conservation easements before it’s lost, thousands of acres preserved that provide refuge for rare plants and desert wildlife, seed banks preserving genetic diversity for future restoration, native plant sales connecting communities to desert biodiversity, and a growing recognition that desert ecosystems are not wastelands but thriving communities of life, truly ensuring that the Mojave’s iconic species have a fighting chance against the escalating threats of our changing climate. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era when climate change is rapidly reshaping desert ecosystems and development pressures threaten to destroy irreplaceable habitat, understanding the urgency of Mojave Desert conservation reminds us that every acre protected through conservation easements, every seed preserved, and every native plant cultivated represents a lifeline for species that have survived in these harsh landscapes for millennia—and that our choices today will determine whether future generations inherit a living desert or a memory of one. Take Action: Support organizations like Mojave Desert Land Trust that permanently protect critical habitat through conservation easements and land acquisition. Attend MDLT’s annual native plant sale to support desert biodiversity in your own yard. Practice responsible recreation by staying on designated trails and roads to protect fragile desert plants. Plant native desert species if you live in arid regions to support local biodiversity and rare species. Reduce your carbon footprint to slow the climate change threatening Joshua trees and other desert species. Contact your representatives to support public land protection and conservation easement programs. Share the importance of desert conservation to counter the “wasteland” narrative. Learn about conservation easements and how they protect landscapes in perpetuity. GUEST SOCIAL MEDIA & RESOURCES: Mojave Desert Land Trust: Learn more: PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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41. Jaguars vs. The Wall: The Fight for Wildlife Borderlands, Connectivity, and Conservation w/ Jack Humphrey
01/14/2026
41. Jaguars vs. The Wall: The Fight for Wildlife Borderlands, Connectivity, and Conservation w/ Jack Humphrey
In this urgent discussion, we interview Jack Humphrey from The Rewilding Institute to explore what rewilding truly means—and why it's under unprecedented threat right now. As the Trump administration dynamites through Arizona's most critical jaguar habitat to construct border walls, we examine what happens when we sever the very corridors that wildlife has traveled for millennia. The Rewilding Institute was founded on a radical idea: that nature needs more than just protection. It needs restoration, connection, and room to breathe. Their vision is bold—gray wolves and grizzly bears with connected habitat from Mexico to Alaska, pumas reclaiming their homelands East and West, salmon swimming freely up our continent's rivers, and oceans teeming with whales and sharks. But corridors only work if they stay open. Right now, in places like the San Rafael Valley, the Huachuca Mountains, and Sycamore Canyon, explosives are blasting apart landscapes that federal scientists have identified as essential for jaguar recovery in the United States. These aren't empty wastelands—they're the last remaining pathways connecting jaguars in Arizona to breeding populations in Mexico. Just last month, a new jaguar called Cinco was photographed in these mountains, the fifth wild cat documented since 2011, proof that these magnificent animals are still trying to come home. The administration has waived more than 40 environmental laws—including the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Wilderness Act—to fast-track construction of double-layered steel walls, industrial floodlights, and surveillance infrastructure across hundreds of miles of protected habitat. This isn't just about jaguars. It's about ocelots, black bears, Mexican gray wolves, pronghorn, and hundreds of species of migratory birds and butterflies that depend on these cross-border ecosystems. Join us for this critical conversation about what's at stake, what rewilding means in practice, and why the fight for connected landscapes is about so much more than any single species. Because when we wall off the wild, we don't just lose jaguars—we lose the possibility of a wilder, more resilient future. ABOUT THE REWILDING INSTITUTE: The Rewilding Institute (TRI) explores and shares tactics and strategies to advance continental-scale conservation and restoration in North America and beyond. They focus on the need for large carnivores and protected wildways for their movement, offering a bold, scientifically credible, practically achievable, and hopeful vision for the future of wild nature and human civilization on planet Earth. Rewilding isn't about going backward—it's about creating pathways forward for the wild species and ecosystems that have been pushed to the margins. Learn more at RAY OF HOPE: Despite the devastating assault on Arizona's borderlands, Cinco's recent appearance proves that jaguars are still fighting to come home. Wildlife doesn't give up—and neither can we. Rewilding reminds us that nature is remarkably resilient when given the chance. From wolf recovery in Yellowstone to beaver reintroduction across North America, we've seen how quickly ecosystems can heal when we restore apex predators and protect corridors. The fight for connected landscapes is gaining momentum. Scientists understand connectivity better than ever. Communities across North America are championing wildlife corridors, from highway overpasses to ranch-led conservation efforts. Indigenous land management practices are being recognized as essential to rewilding success. Every protected wildway, every restored river, every lawsuit against illegal border wall construction is a victory for the future. This isn't just about stopping destruction—it's about building a wilder tomorrow. When we protect jaguar corridors, we protect entire ecosystems. When we advocate for connected habitat, we're choosing resilience over fragmentation. The vision is achievable: a continent where wild animals can move freely, where ecosystems function fully, where nature has room to breathe. That future is worth fighting for. ANXIETY TO ACTION: Speak Up for Borderlands Wildlife: Contact your representatives about protecting critical habitat in Arizona's borderlands. Demand accountability for environmental law waivers and support legislation that prioritizes wildlife corridor protection. Support Rewilding Organizations: Donate to or volunteer with groups working on continental-scale conservation, jaguar recovery, and wildlife corridor protection. Organizations need sustained support to fight ongoing threats. Take Action: Learn about The Rewilding Institute's work and vision Follow jaguar recovery efforts and borderlands conservation news Support organizations fighting border wall construction in critical habitat Educate others about the importance of wildlife corridors and connectivity Advocate for policies that prioritize landscape-scale conservation CONNECT WITH JACK HUMPHREY: The Rewilding Institute - PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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40. The Enduring Wild, and Forgotten Lands Project w/ Josh Jackson
01/07/2026
40. The Enduring Wild, and Forgotten Lands Project w/ Josh Jackson
In this discussion, we interview Josh Jackson, author of The Enduring Wild and creator of the Forgotten Lands project, which documents and advocates for Bureau of Land Management (BLM) public lands across the American West. Through his writing and photography, Josh has become a leading voice in drawing attention to these vast, often-overlooked landscapes, which represent our largest—and most vulnerable—public land holdings. BLM lands differ significantly from national parks and monuments, lacking the same level of protection and public awareness despite comprising millions of acres of critical habitat and stunning wilderness. Through his travels across California’s deserts, particularly the Mojave and the Eastern Sierra Nevada, Josh discovered landscapes of remarkable beauty and ecological significance that were hiding in plain sight. From the otherworldly Trona Pinnacles to the threatened Conglomerate Mesa in the Owens Valley, these “forgotten lands” face mounting challenges from mining interests, development pressures, and shifting political climates. In our conversation, Josh shares personal stories of exploring these desert landscapes with his children, explains how everyday people can access and advocate for BLM lands, and discusses current threats, such as the proposed mining at Conglomerate Mesa. He also reflects on recent victories, including pushback against the “Big Beautiful Bill,” and offers hope for the future of public lands protection through education, sustainable recreation, and grassroots advocacy. Join us for this inspiring discussion about America’s enduring wild places and why these forgotten landscapes deserve our attention, appreciation, and protection! BOOK SUMMARY: The Enduring Wild chronicles Josh Jackson’s journey across America’s BLM territories, revealing the hidden majesty of landscapes that exist outside the famous national park system. Through compelling narrative and stunning photography, the book documents the ecological richness and cultural significance of these “forgotten lands” while exposing the unique threats they face from extractive industries and inadequate protections. Jackson weaves together personal stories, natural history, and urgent advocacy to argue that these vast public lands represent both our greatest conservation challenge and opportunity. The book serves as both a love letter to overlooked wilderness and a call to action for Americans to recognize and protect the enduring wild places that belong to us all. Buy the book . RAY OF HOPE: While threats to public lands can feel overwhelming, there’s something powerful happening: ordinary people are falling in love with “forgotten” places. BLM lands, once ignored in favor of famous national parks, are finding their champions—writers, photographers, families, and local communities who recognize that protection doesn’t require a famous name, just people who care. Recent advocacy victories demonstrate that public engagement is an effective strategy. When communities rallied against harmful legislation such as the “Big Beautiful Bill,” their voices made a difference. Grassroots organizations are successfully protecting threatened areas, such as Conglomerate Mesa, by educating the public about what’s at stake. The desert isn’t barren—it’s full of life, stories, and people ready to defend it. The beautiful truth? These lands belong to all of us. You don’t need special credentials to explore, photograph, or speak up for them. Every hike, every shared photo, every letter to a representative adds to a growing movement recognizing that our wildest places aren’t just worth visiting—they’re worth fighting for. ANXIETY TO ACTION: Practice Sustainable Recreation: Follow “Leave No Trace” principles, stay on designated trails, and educate others about protecting sensitive desert ecosystems while enjoying them responsibly. Raise Your Voice: Contact your representatives about public lands protection. Support organizations working to defend BLM lands. Provide public comments when lands face development threats. Democracy works when citizens participate. Take Action: Explore your local BLM lands. Join the project and take a field trip with Josh Jackson Visit the to find public lands near you. Take a hike, bring a camera, and share what you discover. Purchase and join the Planet People book club. CONNECT WITH JOSH: The Enduring Wild - Visit his website . Follow Josh’s project on and . PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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39. New Year's Special: Mini Wrap-Up and Milestones of 2025
12/31/2025
39. New Year's Special: Mini Wrap-Up and Milestones of 2025
Happy New Year's from Planet People hosts, Natalie & Coral! PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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38. Christmas Special: The Season of Sustainable Giving
12/24/2025
38. Christmas Special: The Season of Sustainable Giving
In this special holiday episode, hosts Natalie and Coral reflect on the season of giving and what it means to give sustainably. As we approach the end of the year, they discuss the importance of shopping small, supporting local businesses, and giving back to the incredible organizations and guests who have shared their knowledge and passion throughout the season. This Christmas episode is a joyous reminder that sustainable giving goes beyond material gifts; it’s about supporting the communities, creators, and changemakers who are working to build a better world. Natalie and Coral emphasize the importance of shopping from small businesses and local artisans this holiday season, as these purchases directly support individuals and families while minimizing environmental impact. The hosts also highlight how listeners can give back to the show itself: following the organizations and experts featured in episodes, supporting their work, and spreading the word about Planet People. Liking, sharing, and subscribing might seem like small actions, but they make a huge difference in amplifying the voices of those doing critical environmental work. RAY OF HOPE: The most meaningful gifts don’t always come wrapped in paper. This holiday season, we’re witnessing a beautiful shift in how people approach giving, prioritizing experiences over possessions, supporting small makers over large corporations, and investing in causes that truly matter. When you shop small, you’re not just buying a product; you’re supporting someone’s dream, keeping money in your local community, and often choosing items made with more care for both people and planet. The ripple effect of these choices extends far beyond the holidays. Every small business supported, every podcast shared, every organization amplified—these are acts of community building that sustain the people doing the hard work of creating change. The beauty is in the simplicity: your everyday choices to support, share, and show up for the causes and people you believe in can have a profound impact. ANXIETY TO ACTION: Make your holiday shopping count - Create a list of small businesses, local artisans, and mission-driven companies to support this season. Consider giving donations in someone’s name to organizations featured on the show. Amplify the voices that matter - Like, share, and review podcasts and content creators who are doing important work. Follow and engage with the organizations and experts who have appeared on Planet People. Give the gift of awareness - Share your favorite Planet People episodes with friends and family. Start conversations about sustainable living and environmental stewardship around the holiday table. PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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37. Twelve Days of Thriftmas w/ Jenli Kaylor
12/22/2025
37. Twelve Days of Thriftmas w/ Jenli Kaylor
In this festive discussion, hosts Coral and Natalie sit down with guest Jenli Kaylor to explore the art of sustainable holiday living through thrifting and upcycling. Together, they dive deep into creative ways to make the holiday season more environmentally conscious while still maintaining the magic and joy of the season. From transforming secondhand finds into meaningful gifts to reimagining holiday decorations with thrifted treasures, this conversation is packed with practical tips for anyone looking to reduce their environmental footprint during the most wonderful—and often most wasteful—time of year. Jenli shares her expertise on identifying quality pieces at thrift stores, creative upcycling techniques that turn forgotten items into holiday gold, and how to shift our mindset from consumption-focused celebrations to more intentional, sustainable practices. The discussion covers everything from DIY gift wrapping using repurposed materials to hosting eco-friendly holiday gatherings that don't compromise on style or sentiment. Join Coral, Jenli, and Natalie for this inspiring conversation that proves the holidays can be both magical and mindful! RAY OF HOPE: While the holiday season often brings anxiety about overconsumption and waste, there's a beautiful shift happening in how people approach gift-giving and celebrating. Thrift stores are seeing record numbers of creative shoppers who are discovering that the most meaningful gifts often come with stories—vintage books, restored furniture pieces, and unique finds that can't be bought new. Communities are embracing gift swaps, DIY workshops, and upcycling parties where neighbors gather to transform old items into new treasures. Social media is filled with inspiring before-and-after transformations that show how creativity can turn the discarded into the divine. The silver lining? Every thrifted gift is both an act of environmental stewardship and a more personal, thoughtful way to show love. You're not just reducing waste—you're giving something with character, history, and heart. ANXIETY TO ACTION: Start small this holiday season - Visit your local thrift store with a specific person or occasion in mind, and let yourself browse with creative eyes rather than a rigid shopping list. Build community around sustainable celebrating - Host a gift-wrapping party using newspapers, brown paper, and natural elements like pinecones and twigs. Organize a holiday decoration swap with neighbors to refresh your décor without having to buy new ones. CONNECT WITH JENLI: Follow @thejenliproject on and PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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36. College of the Desert: A Class on Desert Birds, Energy Solutions, and Living a Sustainable Life w/ Kurt Leuschner
12/17/2025
36. College of the Desert: A Class on Desert Birds, Energy Solutions, and Living a Sustainable Life w/ Kurt Leuschner
In this discussion, we interview Kurt Leuschner, a Professor of Natural Resources at the College of the Desert, a public community college serving the diverse Coachella Valley of Riverside County, California. College of the Desert enrolls approximately 12,500 students and is federally recognized as a Hispanic-serving institution, reflecting its commitment to educational accessibility in the region. Through his role at College of the Desert, Professor Leuschner is helping to educate the next generation of environmental stewards while contributing to our understanding of the remarkable biodiversity that calls the Coachella Valley home. In addition to our discussion on low-desert ecology, Kurt shares the many ways renewable energies are used across Southern California and how we can have hope for the progress humanity is making towards green energy solutions. Not only that, but he also shares the incredible efforts of rewilding desert landscapes by “killing your lawn” and planting native plants. Join us for this hopeful discussion around renewable energy, desert ecology, and what it means to rewild your desert landscape at home in your backyard! RAY OF HOPE: While climate news can feel overwhelming, there's a beautiful movement happening right under our noses. Across the country, people are transforming their lawns into native habitats, one yard at a time. These aren't grand gestures - they're quiet acts of rebellion against monoculture grass that's creating wildlife corridors through suburbia. Farmers are increasingly learning to spot burrowing owl nests, not because they're required to, but because they're discovering that protecting these tiny ecosystem engineers actually improves their soil health. Meanwhile, more people than ever are calling their representatives about environmental issues - democracy in action, one concerned citizen at a time. The silver lining? You don't need to save the whole planet today. You just need to plant one native shrub, make one phone call, or learn to identify one species in your area. These small acts are part of a growing web of environmental stewardship that's quietly rebuilding our connection to the natural world. ANXIETY TO ACTION: Begin with your backyard - Converting even a small patch to native plants creates immediate habitat and gives you a sense of agency. Build Community and share your native plant journey on social media to inspire neighbors. Join local environmental groups working on renewable energy advocacy. Connect with farmers in your area who are implementing wildlife-friendly practices. CONNECT WITH KURT: Email Kurt Lueshner: PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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35. Desert Tortoise Council: Training the Next Generation of Desert Tortoise Biologists w/ Mary Lane Poe
12/10/2025
35. Desert Tortoise Council: Training the Next Generation of Desert Tortoise Biologists w/ Mary Lane Poe
Join us for an in-depth conversation about Mojave desert tortoise conservation efforts, from the original endangered species designation to current threats and protection strategies. In this interview with Mary Lane Poe of the Desert Tortoise Council, we review the many threats facing the desert tortoise, as well as meaningful ways for people to take action and even start a career in desert tortoise conservation. RAY OF HOPE: Here's something incredible: Desert tortoises are ancient ecosystem engineers that have survived ice ages, volcanic eruptions, and dramatic climate shifts over 15 million years. These slow-and-steady champions create burrows that become life-saving refuges for over 300 other desert species - from burrowing owls to kit foxes to countless invertebrates. They're living proof that resilience isn't about speed or aggression; it's about creating infrastructure that benefits entire communities. The Desert Tortoise Council represents something beautiful: people so inspired by these remarkable creatures that they've dedicated their lives to protecting them. Every time you engage with their social media, you're amplifying science-based conservation efforts that are working. The silver lining? Desert tortoises remind us that survival isn't just about individual resilience - it's about building systems that help everyone thrive. When you advocate for the places you love, you're following the tortoise model: creating lasting change through steady, persistent action. ANXIETY TO ACTION: You can turn your anxiety into action by volunteering with the Desert Tortoise Council, such as participating in the annual symposium event, serving on a committee, or becoming a board member. Additionally, it helps to interact with the social media, follow, like, comment, and share. It’s also equally important to advocate for the places you love by writing official comment letters, calling your reps, and letting them know we need to keep these environmental policies in place. EPISODE RESOURCES: Sign up for the Desert Tortoise Introductory course Annual symposium event information can be found Health Assessment Training can be found Learn more about habitat conservation with the FOLLOW MARY LANE POE AND THE DTC ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Mary Lane Poe on Follow the Desert Tortoise Council on FOLLOW PLANET PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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34. Art Queen of Joshua Tree: Fighting Fast Fashion & Turning Trash Into Art w/ Shari Elf
12/03/2025
34. Art Queen of Joshua Tree: Fighting Fast Fashion & Turning Trash Into Art w/ Shari Elf
Join us as we explore the vibrant creative scene of Joshua Tree with Shari Elf, founder of Art Queen, whose innovative approach to upcycled fashion reveals the profound relationship between clothing, self-expression, and environmental consciousness. Shari shares what it means to transform discarded garments into wearable art, as well as the powerful story of how upcycling can serve as both a personal statement and a sustainable alternative to fast fashion’s destructive cycle. In an era when the fashion industry is one of the world’s largest polluters, this essential conversation challenges us to reassess our relationship with clothing and to recognize how reimagining and revitalizing garments can become a symbol of creativity, individuality, and environmental stewardship. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when fast fashion prevails and clothing waste fills our landfills, Shari’s dedication to transforming discarded garments into unique pieces of wearable art stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that creativity and sustainability can merge to create something both beautiful and meaningful. This commitment to upcycling represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: artists and makers reclaiming materials that would otherwise be waste and transforming them into expressions of identity, growing recognition that our clothing choices can be both personal statements and environmental actions, and a new generation learning to value craftsmanship, individuality, and the stories embedded in reimagined garments—ensuring that fashion becomes a force for positive change rather than environmental harm. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era when the fashion industry contributes massively to pollution and waste, and when social media often pressures us toward constant consumption of new trends, understanding the power of upcycled fashion reminds us that every garment tells a story, and that choosing to reimagine and revitalize clothing is both a creative act and a form of resistance against throwaway culture. Take Action: Learn basic clothing repair and alteration skills to extend the life of your garments. Support local artists and makers who create upcycled fashion. Shop secondhand and vintage before buying new. Organize clothing swaps in your community. Challenge fast fashion culture by embracing your personal style over fleeting trends. Share and celebrate creative upcycling projects to inspire others. SHARI SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Shari on Instagram: World Famous Crochet Museum: Art Queen: PLANET PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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33. Thanksgiving Reflections and Gratitude From the Planet People Team
11/26/2025
33. Thanksgiving Reflections and Gratitude From the Planet People Team
Join us for a special shorter-format conversation as founder, Natalie, sits down with co-host and Creative Director, Coral Carson, to reflect on Planet People's remarkable 2.5-year journey. As we celebrate this milestone and enter our second season, we take a moment to express gratitude for our incredible community and discuss why Indigenous knowledge is foundational—not supplementary—to any meaningful conversation about conservation. This Thanksgiving episode sets the stage for our featured guest, Seth Bizardi Tsosie, a Native American monitor from the Lone Pine Paiute-Shoshone Tribe, whose insights about the Eastern Sierra Nevada will shift how you think about land, community, and our collective responsibility to the earth. Seth shares stories and knowledge that will shift how you think about land, community, and our collective responsibility to the earth. His insights offere powerful takeaways that everyone needs to hear, especially during this season of gratitude and reflection. Don't miss our previous episode (Episode 32) featuring Seth's full interview, where he dives deep into Indigenous knowledge of the Eastern Sierra Nevada and the untold story of the Owens Valley water grab. Listen to both episodes for the complete experience! RAY OF HOPE: In a world that often moves too fast to pause and reflect, the growth of the Planet People community over these 2.5 years stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that people still crave meaningful conversations about our relationship with nature and are eager to engage with ideas that honor both people and planet. This community's curiosity and commitment represent hope because it shows us a pathway forward: a growing movement of listeners who show up with care, a network of nature advocates and storytellers amplifying essential voices, and recognition that Indigenous perspectives are foundational to conservation work, ensuring that we build a more just and sustainable future together. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era when Indigenous voices have been historically marginalized in conservation conversations, recognizing that Indigenous knowledge is essential—not optional—reminds us that true environmental stewardship requires listening to and learning from the original stewards of the land whose wisdom about ecological balance and reciprocity spans thousands of years. Take Action: Engage with Indigenous-led conservation initiatives and organizations Educate yourself about Indigenous history and land rights in your region Support Indigenous-led environmental justice organizations, like @, along with the advocacy movement to . Support podcasts and platforms that center Indigenous voices and perspectives Share episodes like this one to help amplify Indigenous knowledge Practice gratitude not just during holidays, but by honoring the land and its original caretakers year-round Listen to Episode 32 with Seth Bizardi Tsosie for his complete story SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Seth on Instagram: Follow Planet People on Instagram: @ Subscribe to us on YouTube: @
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32. Land of Flowing Water: Indigenous Knowledge & The Theft of Owens Valley w/ Seth Bizardi Tsosie
11/19/2025
32. Land of Flowing Water: Indigenous Knowledge & The Theft of Owens Valley w/ Seth Bizardi Tsosie
Join us as we explore the Eastern Sierra Nevada with Seth Bizardi Tsosie, a Native American monitor from the Lone Pine Paiute-Shoshone Tribe, whose ancestral knowledge reveals the profound relationship between Indigenous peoples and the land of flowing water. Seth shares what it means to grow up with generations of traditional ecological wisdom about this remarkable region, as well as the devastating story of how the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power systematically exploited and diverted the Owens Valley’s lifeblood. As we approach Thanksgiving, this essential conversation challenges us to confront the true history of American land and water rights, and to understand the ongoing impacts of environmental injustice on indigenous communities whose connection to these waters spans millennia. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when Indigenous voices have been historically silenced and their lands exploited, Seth’s willingness to share the Lone Pine Paiute-Shoshone Tribe’s knowledge and perspective stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that Indigenous wisdom and resilience persist despite centuries of injustice. This dedication to preserving and sharing traditional knowledge represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: Indigenous communities reclaiming their narratives and educating others about their connection to the land, growing recognition of the value of traditional ecological knowledge in addressing modern environmental challenges, and a new generation learning to honor and protect the relationship between people and water—ensuring that these stories and this wisdom continue to guide us toward more just and sustainable futures for all communities. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era when water rights battles continue and Indigenous communities still fight for recognition and justice, understanding the history of the Owens Valley water grab reminds us that the stories we tell during holidays like Thanksgiving matter, and that real American history includes reckoning with exploitation and learning from those whose knowledge of the land predates colonization. Take Action: Educate yourself about Indigenous history and land rights in your region. Support Indigenous-led environmental justice organizations, like @, along with the advocacy movement to . Be informed on the true history behind Thanksgiving and share accurate narratives. Advocate for Indigenous water rights and tribal sovereignty. Listen to and amplify Indigenous voices on environmental and conservation issues. SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow Seth on Instagram: Follow Planet People on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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31. Antarctica’s Frozen Secrets: Adélie Penguins and the Driest Desert on Earth w/ Dr. Steve Emslie
11/12/2025
31. Antarctica’s Frozen Secrets: Adélie Penguins and the Driest Desert on Earth w/ Dr. Steve Emslie
Join us as we journey to the frozen continent of Antarctica with Dr. Steve Emslie, a leading Antarctic ecologist whose groundbreaking research on Adélie penguins has revealed fascinating insights into one of Earth’s most extreme environments. From the remarkable adaptations of these charismatic seabirds to the surprising revelation that Antarctica is technically a desert, Dr. Emslie shares his discoveries from decades of fieldwork in the coldest, windiest, and driest place on our planet. This eye-opening conversation explores the delicate balance of polar ecosystems and why understanding Antarctica’s past holds crucial insights for our planet’s future. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when polar regions face unprecedented challenges from climate change, Dr. Steve Emslie’s decades-long research on Adélie penguins and Antarctic ecology stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that through careful scientific study, we can understand and protect these remarkable ecosystems. This dedication to Antarctic science represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: long-term ecological monitoring revealing how resilient these ecosystems can be, international scientific cooperation protecting the continent for peaceful research, and a deeper understanding of how Antarctic wildlife adapts to extreme conditions—knowledge that helps us predict and prepare for environmental changes affecting penguin colonies and polar biodiversity for generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era where Antarctic ice shelves are changing and penguin populations face new pressures, understanding the ecology of Adélie penguins and the unique desert environment of Antarctica reminds us that even the most remote ecosystems on Earth are connected to our daily choices and deserve our protection. Take Action: Learn about the Antarctic Treaty System and how international cooperation protects this unique continent Support organizations conducting polar research and conservation Reduce your carbon footprint to help protect polar regions from climate impacts Share the fascinating science of Antarctica to help others understand why polar ecosystems matter Follow Antarctic research stations and scientists on social media to stay connected with ongoing discoveries SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow us on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube: LISTEN TO "ALL ABOUT ANTARCTICA" PHOTO LINKS:
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30. Meditation & Bird Walks: San Diego Climate Week Event Recap
11/05/2025
30. Meditation & Bird Walks: San Diego Climate Week Event Recap
This episode takes you behind the scenes of our San Diego Climate Week event, where we combined mindfulness meditation with birdwatching to forge a deeper connection with the natural world and raise awareness about one of climate change’s most vulnerable victims—our birds. Hosts Natalie and Coral share why they chose to lead a meditative bird walk during Climate Week, highlighting the critical relationship between climate change and declining bird populations. As habitats shift, migration patterns are disrupted, and food sources vanish, birds are serving as early warning indicators of our planet’s changing health. Their songs and presence are not just beautiful—they’re essential signals of a functioning ecosystem. We explore how meditation can transform our relationship with nature by slowing us down, sharpening our senses, and helping us truly observe the world around us. When we quiet our minds, we become better birdwatchers and more attuned listeners to what the planet is trying to tell us. This mindful approach to nature connection isn’t just about appreciation—it’s about understanding the urgent needs of our environment. The hosts discuss the experience of guiding participants through meditative practices before observing local bird species, and how this combination opened new pathways to environmental awareness. By cultivating presence and attention, we can better notice the changes happening in our backyards and communities—and feel more motivated to act. Ultimately, this episode delivers a sobering reminder: a world without birdsong is a world in trouble. When the birds fall silent, it’s a warning we cannot ignore. Through meditation and mindful observation, we can deepen our connection to these vital creatures and become better stewards of the planet they—and we—call home. SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow us on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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29. Halloween Folklore: The Spooky Spoken History of Ravens, Coyotes, Tarantulas, and Owls
10/29/2025
29. Halloween Folklore: The Spooky Spoken History of Ravens, Coyotes, Tarantulas, and Owls
It’s Halloween on Planet People Podcast, and this episode dives into the eerie intersection of nature and folklore. Hosts Natalie and Coral are joined by their teammate Hugh Carr to explore the misunderstood realities of four creatures that have long haunted human imagination—the raven, coyote, tarantula, and owl. Hugh unpacks the mythological roots of ravens and coyotes as tricksters and spirit messengers. Additionally, he presents a fascinating theory regarding what may have contributed to ravens’ dark portrayal throughout history and today… Natalie sheds light on the tarantula’s misunderstood reputation, revealing why these gentle giants surface during October and how their real-life behavior inspired centuries of fear and folklore. Meanwhile, Coral delves into the owl’s enduring mystique, from its silent flight and fixed gaze to the cultural symbolism that casts it as both a wise protector and an omen of death. Together, we unravel how myth and biology intertwine, proving that the creatures that spook us most often hold the deepest stories about the natural world. CREDITS: Spooky raven theory: Raven, bear, wolf video: SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow us on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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28. Zombie Wasps, Tarantulas Hawks, Army Ants, Oh My! An Eerie Look Into the World of Desert Insects w/ Scott Heacox
10/22/2025
28. Zombie Wasps, Tarantulas Hawks, Army Ants, Oh My! An Eerie Look Into the World of Desert Insects w/ Scott Heacox
Join us in continuing this Spooky Season as we sit down with Scott Heacox to explore the truly exciting world of parasitic insects in the Coachella Valley. From wasps that turn their hosts into living nurseries to fungi that create zombie ants, Scott reveals the fascinating and sometimes horrifying survival strategies of desert insects. This spine-tingling conversation uncovers the complex relationships between parasites and their hosts, demonstrating that the scariest stories aren’t found in horror movies—they’re happening right now in the desert ecosystem around us. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when insects are often misunderstood and feared, Scott Heacox’s work stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that understanding these complex creatures—even the parasitic ones—reveals the intricate balance and resilience of desert ecosystems. This educational approach represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: scientific curiosity replacing fear, local communities appreciating the ecological roles of all insects (even the creepy ones), and a deeper understanding of how parasitic relationships maintain healthy populations and biodiversity in the Coachella Valley for generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era where insect populations face unprecedented threats, understanding the fascinating world of parasitic wasps, ants, and crickets reminds us that every creature—no matter how unsettling—plays a vital role in maintaining the health of desert ecosystems. Take Action: Learn about the insects in your local desert ecosystem and their ecological roles Support desert conservation organizations protecting insect habitats Share your newfound knowledge about parasitic insects to help others overcome fear with understanding Participate in citizen science projects documenting desert insect populations SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow us on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube: PHOTO LINKS:
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27. Ravenous Ravens: Time To Talk Trash At The Living Desert Zoo w/ Katie Shaw
10/15/2025
27. Ravenous Ravens: Time To Talk Trash At The Living Desert Zoo w/ Katie Shaw
Join us as we sit down with Katie Shaw, a social scientist with The Living Desert Zoo in Palm Desert, to explore the fascinating intersection of human behavior and wildlife conservation. Kate shares insights into their innovative “Time to Talk Trash” conservation program, which targets the root cause of rising raven populations that threaten endangered desert tortoises. This eye-opening conversation reveals how changing human behavior around waste management can have profound impacts on desert ecosystems, demonstrating that sometimes the most effective wildlife conservation happens by focusing on people, not just animals. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when desert tortoise populations face mounting pressure from increasing raven predation, The Living Desert’s “Time to Talk Trash” program stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that community conservation and social science can intersect to make a positive impact on imperiled desert wildlife. This community-driven approach represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: social science informing conservation strategy, local communities becoming active partners in wildlife protection, and behavioral change programs that create lasting benefits for both people and the desert species that depend on balanced ecosystems for generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era where human activities increasingly impact wildlife survival, The Living Desert’s trash management program reminds us that we have the power to be part of the solution, one behavioral change and one protected tortoise at a time. Take Action: Support The Living Desert’s conservation programs and “Time to Talk Trash” initiative. Practice proper waste disposal and secure trash containers in desert communities. Educate others about the connection between human behavior and wildlife impacts. Advocate for community-based conservation programs that address root causes. RESOURCES: What are Ravenous Ravens? Learn more . Learn more about The Living Desert and their conservation programs: . “Time to Talk Trash” program information: . Desert tortoise conservation resources: . SOCIAL MEDIA: Follow on Instagram: Subscribe to us on YouTube:
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26. Gamifying Conservation: Outsmarting Ravens to Save the Desert Tortoise w/ Tim Shields
10/08/2025
26. Gamifying Conservation: Outsmarting Ravens to Save the Desert Tortoise w/ Tim Shields
Get ready for our most innovative episode yet! In this episode, we explore the cutting-edge world of conservation technology (CTs) with Tim Shields from Ornilogic, who is revolutionizing desert tortoise protection through creative technological solutions. Tim shares mind-blowing conservation tools, including laser guns to deter raven presence and ingenious fake tortoise babies filled with grape juice designed to discourage ravens from eating real tortoise youngsters. This fascinating conversation explores how CTs are transforming wildlife protection by gamifying conservation efforts and making the fight against extinction both effective and FUN! RAY OF HOPE: In a time when traditional conservation methods struggle to keep pace with the rapid decline of species, Tim Shields' innovative CTs stand as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that creative problem-solving and cutting-edge tools can transform how we protect endangered species. By gamifying conservation through laser deterrents, decoy tortoises, and other ingenious devices, this approach shows that fighting extinction can be both scientifically rigorous and genuinely enjoyable for conservationists and the public alike. Tim’s work represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: technology making conservation more effective and engaging, creative solutions that outsmart wildlife threats, and innovative approaches that inspire the next generation of conservationists by proving that saving species can be as exciting as any video game. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era where extinction rates are accelerating, Tim Shields' conservation technologies remind us that we have the power to be part of the solution through innovation, creativity, and making conservation irresistibly engaging, one protected tortoise at a time. Take Action: Support Ornilogic and other conservation technology innovators. Advocate for funding conservation technology research and development. Share the excitement of conservation innovation to inspire others. Explore how technology and creativity can enhance local conservation efforts. RESOURCES: Learn more about Ornilogic and Tim Shields' CTs . Tim Shields' TED Talk . Desert tortoise protection programs . Raven clicking noise -
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25. Western Snake Wrangler: Saving Rattlesnakes & Shifting Perspectives in the Mojave Desert w/ Danielle Wall
10/01/2025
25. Western Snake Wrangler: Saving Rattlesnakes & Shifting Perspectives in the Mojave Desert w/ Danielle Wall
Join us for an unforgettable conversation with Danielle Wall, recorded live at a studio in Joshua Tree, California! In this exclusive episode, Danielle shares wild stories from her years as a snake wrangler out West, fascinating fun facts about rattlesnake behavior, and essential rescue advice that could save both human and snake lives. The interview becomes even more exciting when Danielle brings out a baby rattlesnake, providing us with a rare up-close look at these remarkable desert predators. From dramatic rescue calls to the intricate world of snake biology, this episode will completely transform how you think about rattlesnakes and desert wildlife. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when fear and misunderstanding drive humans to kill harmless and beneficial snakes, Danielle Wall’s mission to “save one snake and save one life” stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that compassion and education can transform our relationship with wildlife. Through her volunteer efforts in Joshua Tree, California, Danielle rescues and relocates rattlesnakes throughout the Mojave Desert, proving that coexistence is possible when we choose understanding over fear. Danielle’s work represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: changing hearts and minds one rescue at a time, building bridges between human communities and wildlife, and creating safer outcomes for both people and snakes through professional relocation services that benefit generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era where wildlife-human conflicts are increasing, Danielle’s snake rescue work reminds us that we have the power to be part of the solution, one rescued rattlesnake at a time. Advocate for wildlife coexistence! Share educational content about snake safety and the important role snakes play in desert ecosystems. Call professional snake relocators instead of killing snakes - every life matters. RESOURCES: Follow Danielle Wall’s snake rescue nonprofit: Snake safety and identification resources for the Mojave Desert: PHOTO / VIDEO CREDIT: Dani Photographers: Richard Stow: Katie Shearer: Shaughn and John:
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24. Joshua Tree or Asparagus? A Breakdown of the Joshua Tree Conservation Act
09/24/2025
24. Joshua Tree or Asparagus? A Breakdown of the Joshua Tree Conservation Act
In this important episode, hosts Coral and Natalie discuss the history of Joshua tree conservation in Southern California and examine the groundbreaking Joshua Tree Conservation Act. They explore what it takes to protect these iconic desert trees under their own dedicated legislation, analyzing the current threats Joshua trees face from rapid solar development and the escalating impacts of climate change. This comprehensive conversation covers the legislative journey, conservation challenges, and the critical importance of specialized protection for one of the Mojave Desert’s most beloved and vulnerable species. RAY OF HOPE: In a time when Joshua trees face unprecedented threats from development and climate change, the Joshua Tree Conservation Act stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that targeted legislation can provide specialized protection for vulnerable species. This dedicated act recognizes Joshua trees as unique and irreplaceable elements of Southern California’s desert heritage, creating a framework for their long-term survival despite mounting environmental pressures. The Joshua Tree Conservation Act represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: species-specific conservation legislation that addresses real threats, communities and lawmakers working together to protect iconic landscapes, and proactive measures that will safeguard these ancient desert sentinels for generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era of rapid desert development and climate uncertainty, the Joshua Tree Conservation Act reminds us that we have the power to be part of the solution, one protected tree and preserved habitat at a time. The iconic act is one of its kind, providing one single species with strong protections, paving the way for future species to be protected in their own right. Support the Joshua Tree Conservation Act by contacting your representatives. Advocate for responsible solar development that avoids critical Joshua tree habitat. Participate in public comment periods for desert development projects. Educate others about the unique ecological importance of Joshua trees. RESOURCES: Learn more about the Joshua Tree Conservation Responsible renewable energy development guidelines Climate change impacts on Joshua trees research PHOTO CREDITS:
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23. An Ocean-Positive Future: Combating Deep-Sea Mining & Protecting Marine Ecosystems w/ Carissa Cabrera
09/17/2025
23. An Ocean-Positive Future: Combating Deep-Sea Mining & Protecting Marine Ecosystems w/ Carissa Cabrera
Carissa Cabrera, CEO of FutureSwell and marine biologist, joins us to discuss her multifaceted approach to ocean conservation through media, education, and community building. Based in Hawaiʻi, Carissa integrates Indigenous management with modern conservation practices while serving as a National Geographic educator and content creator. We explore the challenges facing marine ecosystems, including the ongoing threat of deep-sea mining, where regulatory decisions continue to be delayed until 2025. As both a scientist and entrepreneur, Carissa shares insights on building a conservation media business and using storytelling to reconnect people with the ocean. Her work demonstrates how creators in the marine science space can amplify critical conservation messages while building sustainable careers. RAY OF HOPE: FutureSwell’s mission to democratize access to ocean conservation knowledge is creating waves across digital platforms and real-world communities. Through innovative media strategies and authentic storytelling, marine science creators like Carissa are successfully bridging the gap between complex scientific research and public understanding. The delay in deep-sea mining regulations provides more time for advocates to build awareness and opposition to potentially destructive practices. Young professionals are finding new pathways to combine entrepreneurship with environmental impact, proving that conservation careers can be both meaningful and financially sustainable. CONNECT: Follow our guest Carissa Cabrera on Instagram: Connect with FutureSwell: Other ocean conservation accounts to follow: SeaLegacy: National Geographic Pristine Seas: RESOURCES: FutureSwell website: Carissa Cabrera’s website: Deep Sea Conservation Coalition: - Latest on deep sea mining issues Carissa’s ocean conservation podcast Kuleana Coral Restoration: - Community-based coral restoration International Seabed Authority: - Deep-sea mining regulations CALL TO ACTION: Oppose deep-sea mining! Contact your representatives to express opposition to deep-sea mining and support for stronger ocean protections. The International Seabed Authority continues to delay final regulations, giving us time to build momentum against this destructive practice. Support Ocean Creators: Follow and share content from marine science communicators who are making ocean conservation accessible. Amplify the voices of Indigenous ocean stewards and community-based conservation efforts. Find your representatives: House: Senate: Sample message: “I urge you to oppose deep-sea mining and support policies that protect our ocean ecosystems. Please advocate for stronger marine conservation measures and Indigenous ocean management practices.”
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22. Lizard Land: Legendary Reptiles of the Coachella Valley w/ Colin Barrows
09/10/2025
22. Lizard Land: Legendary Reptiles of the Coachella Valley w/ Colin Barrows
In this episode of Planet People, we are joined by Colin Barrows, a Coachella Valley naturalist, desert advocate, and Secretary of CactusToCloud Institute. Colin has extensive knowledge in desert ecology, particularly in reptiles and rare desert plants, and he shares many fascinating facts about lizard adaptations. We also uncover the secret life of lizards and what it takes for these creatures to survive in the rugged landscape of the low deserts of the Coachella Valley. CONNECT: Follow Colin Barrows on Follow for all the updates! RAY OF HOPE: In a time when habitat loss and climate change threaten reptile populations worldwide, the incredible lizard biodiversity of the Coachella Valley stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating nature’s remarkable resilience and adaptability. The newly designated Chuckwalla National Monument protects critical habitat for the iconic chuckwalla lizard and dozens of other reptile species, preserving 624,000 acres of irreplaceable desert ecosystem where these ancient creatures have thrived for millennia. Chuckwalla National Monument represents hope because it shows us that protecting biodiversity hotspots can safeguard entire ecosystems: preserving critical lizard habitat, maintaining desert food webs that countless species depend on, and ensuring that future generations will witness the spectacular diversity of desert reptiles that call the Coachella Valley home. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era of biodiversity loss and habitat fragmentation, the Chuckwalla Valley reminds us that we have the power to protect the remarkable creatures that share our planet, one preserved habitat at a time. Take Action: Interact with Cactus to Cloud - follow, like, comment, and share Advocate for the places and species you love! Write official comment letters, call your representatives, and let them know we need to keep these environmental protections in place Support local desert conservation efforts and reptile research initiatives RESOURCES: Learn more about Chuckwalla National Monument . Acquire a California naturalist certification . VOLUNTEER AND DONATE: Interested in helping with these conservation efforts? to updates from Cactus to Cloud to learn how you can get involved. RELEVANT CONTENT: Listen to our previous episode with Colin and Sendy Barrows PHOTO CREDITS: Mojave Desert Photography | Colin Barrows: Kangaroo Rat | Stan/stock.adobe.com: Ironwood | Doris Evans: Western Tanager | Bob Steventon: Cape May Warbler | Curtis A. Marantz: Yucca Moth | NPS: Giant Ground Sloth | Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.:
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21. Hidden Desert Treasure: Protecting Public Lands & Chuckwalla National Monument Update
09/03/2025
21. Hidden Desert Treasure: Protecting Public Lands & Chuckwalla National Monument Update
Several conservation, veteran, and recreation organizations have filed motions to intervene in a lawsuit defending the Chuckwalla National Monument designation. The monument, established in January 2025 on desert lands in California's Riverside and Imperial Counties, is being challenged by an Idaho-based motorized recreation group and a Michigan miner. The intervening organizations, including CactusToCloud Institute, spent years collaborating with Tribes, veterans, and community members to identify the area's unique tribal resources and values worthy of protection. Chuckwalla National Monument protects lands significant to 13 Tribal Nations while ensuring equitable access for outdoor recreation including camping, OHV use, and hunting. The designation has broad support from local Tribes, governments, elected officials, veterans, 300+ businesses, and 370+ scientists. RAY OF HOPE: Despite legal challenges, the coalition's intervention represents a unified front of diverse stakeholders committed to protecting Chuckwalla's irreplaceable desert landscapes, tribal heritage, and recreational opportunities. The broad-based support from local communities, Tribal Nations, veterans, scientists, and businesses demonstrates that conservation efforts built on genuine collaboration and community input create lasting, defendable protections. Organizations continue working to ensure equitable access while safeguarding the monument's ecological, cultural, and historical values for future generations. CONNECT: Follow our guests CactusToCloud Institute on Instagram: Connect with other organizations defending the monument: Earthjustice: Sierra Club: Center for Biological Diversity: RESOURCES: - Learn more about community support - Full legal filing details - Local advocacy and education - Monument management information CALL TO ACTION: Call Your Representatives! Contact your members of Congress to express support for Chuckwalla National Monument and the use of the Antiquities Act to protect important public lands. Let them know that monument designations have bipartisan support and benefit local economies, protect tribal heritage, and ensure recreational access for all Americans. Find your representatives: House: Senate: Sample message: "I support Chuckwalla National Monument and urge you to defend the president's authority under the Antiquities Act to protect our public lands for current and future generations."
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20. Desert Defenders: Designating Chuckwalla National Monument w/ Sendy Barrows
08/27/2025
20. Desert Defenders: Designating Chuckwalla National Monument w/ Sendy Barrows
In this episode of Planet People, co-hosts Natalie Jane Cibel and Coral Beth Carson sat down with Sendy Barrows, co-founder of the CactusToCloud Institute, to discuss the successful campaign that led to the designation of the Chuckwalla National Monument in January 2025. Barrows shares the behind-the-scenes story of how this conservation victory required years of dedicated advocacy work, bringing together diverse stakeholders in a comprehensive coalition-building effort. The new designation near Joshua Tree National Park protects wildlife and preserves Indigenous spiritual and cultural values tied to the land. Listeners will gain insight into the complex process of environmental advocacy and the persistence required to achieve lasting conservation outcomes. CONNECT: Follow Sendy Barrows on Follow for all the updates! RAY OF HOPE: In a time when climate change can feel overwhelming, the designation of Chuckwalla National Monument stands as a powerful ray of hope, demonstrating that grassroots community action can create meaningful climate solutions. By protecting these 624,000 acres of irreplaceable desert ecosystem, we’re actively fighting climate change through land conservation. Chuckwalla National Monument represents hope because it shows us a pathway forward: local action creating lasting change, communities taking climate action into their own hands, and conservation efforts that will benefit generations to come. ANXIETY TO ACTION: In an era of climate anxiety, Chuckwalla reminds us that we have the power to be part of the solution, one protected landscape at a time. Interact with the Cactus to Cloud social media, follow, like, comment, and share. Follow them . Advocate for the places you love! Write official comment letters, call your reps, and let them know we need to keep these environmental policies in place. RESOURCES: Learn more about Chuckwalla National Monument . Acquire a California naturalist certification . VOLUNTEER AND DONATE: Interested in helping with these conservation efforts? to updates from Cactus to Cloud to learn how you can get involved. You can also support them by donating to this cause! RELEVANT CONTENT: Listen to our previous episode with All Creatures Podcast
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19. What Does Conservation Mean To You? All Creatures x Planet People
08/20/2025
19. What Does Conservation Mean To You? All Creatures x Planet People
Join us as Planet People co-hosts Natalie Jane Cibel and Coral Beth Carson jump into an engaging roundtable discussion with Chris and Angie from All Creatures Podcast. In this dynamic conversation, we dive deep into what conservation truly means to each of us, explore our thoughts on the future of our climate, and discuss the powerful impact of David Attenborough’s latest documentary on oceans. This collaborative episode brings together passionate voices from both podcasts to share perspectives on environmental stewardship, marine conservation, and the urgent climate challenges facing our planet. From personal conservation philosophies to the breathtaking cinematography that makes us fall in love with nature all over again, this conversation covers it all. RAY OF HOPE: Learn from each host what conservation philosophy means to you and how it shapes our daily lives and relationships with nature. Remain calm about the future of the climate. We share our honest thoughts and hopes for the planet’s climate trajectory David Attenborough’s Ocean Documentary: Breaking down the stunning visuals, important messages, and emotional impact Collaborative Conservation: How different voices and approaches can work together for environmental change And much more! ANXIETY INTO ACTION: Interact with the All Creatures social media, follow, like, comment, and share. Advocate for the places you love! – Write official comment letters, call your reps, and let them know we need to keep these environmental policies in place. Watch Oceans by David Attenborough to take inspired action for Planet Blue! RESOURCES: All Creatures Podcast - click for website Trailer DONATION: Donate to All Creatures RELEVANT CONTENT: Season 2 Planet People
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18. From Sea to Shining Desert: A Field Biologist’s Fight Against Desert Tortoise Extinction w/ Natalie Cibel
08/13/2025
18. From Sea to Shining Desert: A Field Biologist’s Fight Against Desert Tortoise Extinction w/ Natalie Cibel
Join us for a casual and fun discussion with Natalie Jane Cibel, a conservation biologist and founder of Planet People, who has dedicated her career to studying and protecting one of the Mojave Desert’s most iconic species: the desert tortoise. In this episode, Natalie takes us behind the scenes to see what it’s really like to be a wildlife biologist working in the harsh but beautiful California desert, and shares incredible insights about the remarkable adaptations of these ancient reptiles. Natalie Jane is also the founder of Cibel Consulting and Communication Services. Her work focuses on understanding and protecting desert tortoise populations in the Mojave Desert of California, where she conducts field research and conservation efforts to ensure the survival of this threatened species. Through her field research, she also shares her journey as a conservationist and provides science communication through stories through Planet People. ANXIETY INTO ACTION: Find a mentor in the climate community to help guide your career in conservation. Go for a walk in the desert and embrace the solitude and find perspective on your connection the planet. EPISODE RESOURCES: CONNECT WITH OUR GUEST: CONNECT WITH PLANET PEOPLE:
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Season 2 Teaser: Desert Conservation In Southern California & Beyond To The Greater Southwest
08/06/2025
Season 2 Teaser: Desert Conservation In Southern California & Beyond To The Greater Southwest
The desert is alive, and Season 2 of Planet People is here to prove it. Join founder and conservation biologist Natalie Jane Cibel, alongside newly joined co-host Coral Beth Carson, as we venture deeper into the Mojave Desert of Southern California and beyond, uncovering the hidden stories of life that thrive in one of Earth's most challenging environments. Our mission remains clear: to protect and celebrate the overlooked creatures that call these ancient landscapes home. From the elusive desert tortoise navigating climate change to the remarkable adaptations of sidewinder rattlesnakes and chuckwalla lizards, this season brings you face-to-face with the incredible animals that have mastered survival in the harshest conditions. Get ready for an unforgettable journey into the wild heart of the desert, where every bit of desert soil tells a story of resilience, adaptation, and the urgent need for conservation. Stay tuned for an exciting season 2 with desert conservation-themed episodes posted every other week and bonus episodes in between. This is a season you won’t want to miss! We hope you enjoy our first intro episode, dropping next Wednesday with an exciting bonus episode to follow. Let us know in the comments what you think! Connect with Planet People: Follow on Instagram Follow on TikTok Follow on YouTube Follow on LinkedIn Follow Co-host on Instagram and TikTok
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17. Season 2: Sneak Peeks & Update
06/04/2025
17. Season 2: Sneak Peeks & Update
Episode Summary Hey Planet People, Natalie and Coral popping in with a mid-season 2 update! We are excited to be halfway through filming season 2 of our desert conservation series with a release date in mind for the near future. Right now, we are on a pause for the month of June as we dive deep into post-production processes. What does that look like? In the meantime, please listen to our Season 1 about Southern California Ocean Conservation & our Bonus Episodes with Alex Wild and Brooke Mitchell, and follow our social media on Instagram and TikTok. We also encourage you to stay informed about the local and national issues our wildlife is facing, and continue calling your representatives and using your voice. Season 2 Teaser In this brief update, we share what you can expect out of season 2, the types of animals we learn about, and the harsh environment of the desert they inhabit. From the Mojave Desert in Southern California to the Great Basin in the Sierra Nevada and beyond to Utah, Nevada, and Arizona, we give you an idea of what kind of exciting stories you can expect from this season. The North American Southwest is a treasure full of wonders that may not be obvious in plain sight, but it is when we connect deeper and learn about the desert that we can uncover the complex lifeforms that have adapted to survive there. Connect with Planet People
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16. Protecting Patagonia w/ Rewildology
05/21/2025
16. Protecting Patagonia w/ Rewildology
Listen to Brooke Mitchell’s podcast Rewildology here: "Where the Wild Calls" is produced in partnership with Conservación Patagónica and the Route of Parks initiative. A portion of proceeds supports on-the-ground conservation efforts throughout Chilean Patagonia. Episode Summary Join host Brooke Mitchell on an epic 1,700-mile journey through Chile's spectacular a groundbreaking conservation corridor stretching from the puma territories of Torres del Paine to the ancient Alerce forests of Pumalín Douglas Tompkins National Park. From tracking elusive pumas in Torres del Paine to witnessing the recovery of ancient temperate rainforests in Pumalín Douglas Tompkins National Park, this series captures the ecological diversity, conservation innovations, and human stories that make Chile's Route of Parks a global model for large-scale conservation. Featured Destinations Discussed This landmark series takes you deep into one of our planet's most ambitious conservation projects, where wildlands protection meets community development to create a model for the future of conservation worldwide. Each episode brings you face-to-face with the remarkable wildlife, landscapes, and people that make Patagonia one of Earth's last great wild places. Torres del Paine National Park: Track elusive pumas alongside conservation scientists working to reduce human-wildlife conflict Pumalín Douglas Tompkins National Park: Explore ancient temperate rainforests and the legacy of Douglas Tompkins' visionary conservation work Kawésqar National Park: Discover marine conservation initiatives protecting the pristine fjords and channels of Chilean Patagonia Patagonia National Park: Witness grassland restoration and wildlife recovery in this former ranch turned conservation showcase Special Guests and Stories Conservation Pioneers: Exclusive interviews with the visionaries behind Chile's Route of Parks Indigenous Guardians: Learn how native communities are reclaiming their role as stewards of ancestral lands Scientific Discoveries: Join researchers documenting rare species and ecosystem recovery Local Champions: Meet the guides, rangers, and community members on the frontlines of protection Episode Resources - podcast in April 2026 at Torres Del Paine to protect pumas with Project Panthera and Brooke Mitchell “Walking with Pumas” How to engage Listen: Available on all major podcast platforms Follow: and on Instagram for behind-the-scenes content Support: Each episode connects you with specific conservation initiatives making a difference in Patagonia Visit: Plan your journey along the Route of Parks with our companion travel guide
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15. The Wild World of Birds: A Naturalist Walk at San Elijo Lagoon w/ Alex Wild (Part 2)
05/07/2025
15. The Wild World of Birds: A Naturalist Walk at San Elijo Lagoon w/ Alex Wild (Part 2)
Listen to this episode on your favorite podcast platform or watch the video version on our YouTube channel to see the birds we identify during our walk! Episode Overview This episode continues our conversation with park ranger Alex Wild, featuring a guided nature walk around . Alex identifies various birds and plants while discussing his role as a park ranger and sharing stories about inspiring environmental elders. This episode follows our previous discussion with Alex about recent attacks on National Parks and federal worker cuts that affected him personally. We had a special guest join us, Franklin the desert tortoise, Alex's former pet now serving as an animal ambassador at San Elijo. Keep reading to learn more about the birds we saw in this episode! Key Topics Discussed Major talking points included bird identification and birding tips, including creating a "life list" for birding. We also defined "Spark Birds" - the species that ignite someone's passion for birding and how ornithology lends itself to Alex's responsibilities as a park ranger. Spiritual connection to the land and the importance of role models as environmental elders who inspire. Most importantly, we discuss what it means to use our voice to protect natural spaces we love. Poetry Feature: "The Peace of Wild Things" By Wendell Berry When despair for the world grows in me and I wake in the night at the least sound in fear of what my life and my children’s lives may be, I go and lie down where the wood drake rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds. I come into the peace of wild things who do not tax their lives with forethought of grief. I come into the presence of still water. And I feel above me the day-blind stars waiting with their light. For a time I rest in the grace of the world, and am free. Featured Segments Endangered Bird Segment: Endangered bird species are under threat! This recently published report from the 2025 US State of the Birds Report by the American Bird Conservancy outlines the threats that birds face across America and defines proactive solutions to protect bird populations for future generations. Key findings from the new report show that more than one-third of U.S. bird species are of high or moderate conservation concern, including 112 that have lost more than 50 percent of their populations in the last 50 years. Betty Reid Soskin Park Ranger segment: Betty Reid Soskin (born Betty Charbonnet; 1921), now retired, was a park ranger with the National Park Service, assigned to the Rosie the Riveter/World War II Home Front National Historical Park in Richmond, California. In 2015, Betty was selected to participate in the national tree-lighting ceremony in President’s Park at the White House, introducing President Barack Obama during the PBS telecast. At 100 years of age in 2022, Betty retired as the oldest park ranger in the National Park Service. Thank you for your hard-earned work, Betty! Related Content Check out our earlier conversation with Alex about the challenges facing National Parks and federal workers. Hosts: Natalie Jane Cibel () and Coral Carson Birds Mentioned: (photo: Audubon & US Forest Service) (photo: Barbara-Houston) (Photo: & ) (Video: Lukas Pich) (Videos: Anton Herrington, Matthew Williams-Ellis) (Video: Day’s Edge Productions) (Video: Day’s Edge Productions) (Video: Wind Collective) (Photo NPS/Jared Hughey) (Photo: Donald M. Jones and Lee Rentz) (Photo: Grace Oliver) (Photo:Chris Conard) (Videos: Monster Filmmakers & Day’s Edge Productions) (Photo: Ed Henry) (Video:Wesley Aston) (Photo: Willian Tyrer) (Photo: Teal Baremore) (Photo: Owen Deutsch) (Photo: Luvsd) (Photo: Scott Strei) (Photo: Kira Henderson/Audubon Photography Awards) (Yosemite) (Photo: Dennis Church) (Coastside Land Trust) (San Diego Bird Spot) - San Diego Region (San Diego Bird Spot) (Photo: Jared Keyes) (Photo: Matt Davis) Plants Mentioned: (My Home Park) (Video: Amy Bornstein) (Botanical Interests) (Photo: Joan Avice) (Photo: Will Elder, NPS) (Photo: Joanna Gilkeson/USFWS) Places Mentioned: People Mentioned: (Painting: ) (Photo: Cayce Clifford) (Photo: Luther Bailey) Apps Mentioned:
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14. Protecting National Parks and Keeping Nature Wild w/ Alex Wild
04/22/2025
14. Protecting National Parks and Keeping Nature Wild w/ Alex Wild
Happy Earth Day! 🌎💚 In this special bonus episode, we sit down with Alex Wild, a park ranger and naturalist who recently made headlines after being caught in the crossfire of controversial executive orders affecting National Parks. We filmed this episode live from the San Elijo Lagoon with Alex’s pet tortoise and now education ambassador, Franklin. Alex shares his journey as a steward of public lands, about the recent DOGE job cuts, his opinion on the recent executive orders, and his natural, spiritual connection to the landscape. Learn about how Alex embodies what it means to be a Planet Person in this exciting discussion about current events and the conservation of public lands! Topics Covered: Personal Stories and Environmental Passion: Alex shares the childhood experiences that sparked his passion for environmental stewardship. We recorded live in one of his many spirit homes, the San Elijo Lagoon, in Cardiff, CA. He shares the spiritual meaning behind being a Planet Person and how that reflects in his everyday life as a naturalist and a ranger. We recount wild and memorable experiences from Alex's time as a park ranger, like his experience hiking in the Yosemite wilderness to measure glaciers that John Muir once observed. Recent Policy Changes and Their Impact: Alex recounts his experience of being laid off due to the DOGE program and then shares how he was reinstated following a San Francisco judge's ruling. We discussed how these changes affect thousands of park workers. Recent Adventures: Alex has a full and exciting life, recounting his many travel adventures around California working for county, state, and federal parks. He shared his meaningful encounter with Jane Goodall and how she has shaped his approach to advocacy and actionable ways listeners can support conservation efforts. He also briefly touched on his recent trip to Tanzania and his experience living with the Maasai tribe around Arusha. Looking Ahead to Season 2: Preview of our upcoming season focusing on desert conservation. Discussion of the potential impacts of current policies on desert ecosystems. Concerns about the Mojave Desert conservation corridor. Resources & People Mentioned: National , , Connect with Alex Wild: Follow Alex on Instagram: “Don’t Sell Public Lands” -
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