Dear White Women

Biracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're real. Join us on this journey.

246: Why Trump Is Bad For [Y]OUR Wellbeing, Part II 05/21/2024

245: Why Trump Is Bad For [Y]OUR Well-being, Part I 05/07/2024

245: Why Trump Is Bad For [Y]OUR Well-being, Part I In our last episode, we went through reasons - issue by issue (not all of them, but a lot of them) - about why our freedom and democracy are at risk if you vote for Trump and he gets elected for president again in 2024. In brief, things like his stance on immigration and making America a white-supremacist-centered nation; Ukraine and what that says about his desire to pander to the influence of outside nations; his hatred of the press and what that indicates about his desire to turn America into an authoritarian state; abortion, and what this means for every woman, mother, and person capable of bearing a child, including the freedom of families overall. Notably, all through his own words because he’s been telling us what he’s going to do for years. In today’s episode, we’re going inside (ourselves) to talk about wellness and thriving, and whether or not we value societies that make it possible for us to feel - and be - well. We’ll do this through the lens of a possible second Trump presidency, because we firmly believe that a second Trump presidency is bad for our well-being - mine and yours, both mentally and physically - and bad for us all, as human beings. What to listen for? The eight dimensions of wellness/wellbeing (in today’s episode, we talk about four of them - physical, intellectual, emotional, and social); Trump’s policies that impact our physical well-being, including ACA and access to abortions; How Trump’s disbelief in scientific fact and restrictions around schooling harm go directly against building intellectual well-being, especially for our future generations; The emotional effects that we’re already feeling from a possible second term for Trump; and How a Trump presidency could result in increased social isolation and divisiveness for our communities. In case you missed it, here’s the link to our last episode on the risks to our freedom and democracy: /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/31163814

244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away) 04/23/2024

244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away) You know that person you know - the one who exaggerates everything? It’s kind of like that story of the blameless “boy who cried wolf” who lives in fantasy land and never takes responsibility for anything - and this person seemingly has not only the best life anyone could ever imagine, with loads of money, tons of friends, amazing vacations, but also, nothing ever seems to go wrong? (Instagram is a drug, friends). Now imagine that friend is running (again) for President of the United States. And that friend is bringing that energy into the race in the most destructive, divisive way possible, in which he’s only out for himself - which his statements prove every.single.day. Those statements that you would roll your eyes at and dismiss? Now, you no longer can, because those statements tell you who he is, and exactly what he plans to do if he gets re-elected (spoiler alert: it’s going to be hugely destructive to our lives as we know them, and most, if not all, of our freedoms that we take for granted.). You guessed it - we’re talking about Trump, and why we need to take him at his word. In other words, even though it’s painful - don’t look away. He’s giving us the blueprint of how a Trump presidency would be, and not only is it worse than last time, it will destroy our democracy and our freedom along with it. What to listen for? Why we think the risk of having Trump in a second term is FAR more dangerous than having Biden. Looking specifically at the harms that will befall our country because of things like his views on: Immigration and making America a white-supremacist-centered nation, Ukraine and what that says about his desire to pander to the influence of outside nations, His hatred of the press and what that indicates about his desire to turn America into an authoritarian state, Violence, and how a deeper threat of control and violence will eventually impact every American citizen Abortion, and what this means for every woman, mother, and person capable of bearing a child, including families overall. Do not look away from the massive threat Trump poses for our country. Link to Trump’s Authoritarian Playbook 2025: Resources: To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/30923213

243: High Five, Friends - Where We’ve Been and Where We’re Going 04/09/2024

243: High Five, Friends - Where We’ve Been and Where We’re Going This week marks the FIVE-YEAR anniversary of the Dear White Women podcast! That means we’ve outlasted almost all the other podcasts out there… like ya knew we would. From those first few episodes released altogether on April 15, 2019, to now… it’s been quite the ride. This year, in order to kick off year SIX (!!!) of the podcast, we thought we’d devote an entire shorter episode to talking about not only the past five years but what we have in store for the future and that shot of hope for all of us. What to listen for: How the podcast has evolved since its start in April 2019, including its history The stand-out episode from this past year Our personal whys behind doing this for the past five years and how that may have shifted over time Where we think the Dear White Women platform goes from here About Sara & Misasha: A graduate of Harvard College and Columbia Law School, Misasha Suzuki Graham (she/her) has been a practicing litigator for over 15 years, and is passionate about diversity, equity, and inclusion in the legal profession as well as in her communities. She is a facilitator, writer, and speaker regarding issues of racial justice, especially regarding children, the co-author of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism, and the co-host of Dear White Women, a social justice podcast. Misasha, who is biracial (Japanese and white), is married to a Black man and is the proud mom of two very active multiracial young boys. They live in the Bay Area of California with their largely indifferent cat. Sara Blanchard (she/her) helps build community and connection through conscious conversations, which she does as a facilitator, TEDx speaker, writer, and consultant. After graduating from Harvard and working at Goldman Sachs, Sara pursued the science and techniques of well-being and is a certified life coach, author of two books (Flex Mom and DearWhite Women: Let’s Get (Un)Comfortable Talking About Racism), and co-host of Dear White Women, an award-winning weekly social justice podcast. Sara is biracial (Japanese and white), married to a white Canadian man, and is raising their two white-presenting girls to be compassionate, thoughtful advocates. They live in Denver, Colorado with their incredibly lovable dog. To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . Follow us on social media to continue the conversation! /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/30722883

242: How to Have Compassionate Dialogue, with Dr. Nancy Dome 03/26/2024

242: How to Have Compassionate Dialogue, with Dr. Nancy Dome If you know us, you may know that we LOVE a good conversation - even if it’s uncomfortable or difficult. But this year, as we head into what seems to be ONLY conversations that are uncomfortable or difficult, how do we best do that? If the idea of even talking to someone now gives you pause, then this is the episode for you. The connection quality of part of our conversation is a little iffy in places, but it’s worth listening to every moment of this episode. Our guest today (a repeat guest at that!) talks us through the journey of compassionate dialogue, including practical tips on how to practice this in your next conversation, and how to do the inner work necessary to make this the default, rather than the exception, to your conversations in 2024 and beyond. What to listen for: The compassionate dialogue structure includes the need to recognize, interrupt, and repair – and sometimes, we’re finding that recognizing our own emotions is the most challenging part! The good/bad binary, and how it’s entirely unhelpful A powerful example of how to have difficult conversations around politics About Dr Dome: Renowned speaker, author, and equity consultant Dr. Nancy Dome co-founded Epoch Education in 2014 to provide leaders in education and business with accessible professional development in diversity, inclusion and belonging, and equity. As an educator for nearly three decades, Dr. Dome taught in the juvenile court and community schools teaching our most vulnerable students, and has served as a Distinguished Teacher in Residence and faculty member at California State University San Marcos. Her transformative approach helps school districts and educational agencies throughout the country navigate complex topics, build bridges, and work together for inclusive, impactful change. She is the author of Let’s Talk About Race and Other Hard Things: A Framework for Having Conversations That Build Bridges, Strengthen Relationships, and Set Clear Boundaries and The Compassionate Dialogue Journey: A Workbook for Growth and Self-Discovery. For more information, visit . To hear Dr. Dome’s previous episode on Dear White Women, listen to Episode 164: Resources: To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . Follow us on social media to continue the conversation! /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/30529668

241: Why Should We Care About “Being Political”? 03/12/2024

240: Why Should We Care About Baseball? (Hint: It's About Civil Rights And Humanity) 02/27/2024

240: Why Should We Care About Baseball? (Hint: It's About Civil Rights And Humanity) If you’re listening to this episode around the time when it’s being released, then you’ll be listening to this right on the last day of Black History Month in the United States. It should go without saying that Black History is American History, but we’re going to say it anyway, and we’ll add that it shouldn’t be confined just to the shortest month of the year but instead should be taught to our kids every day of the year, and should be talked about by us as grownups by an equal amount. This year, given where we are politically and nationally, we wanted to recognize another key day in February - February 19th. That’s the day when President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, which forced 120,000 Japanese Americans (American citizens) to leave their homes and be relocated to concentration camps ON AMERICAN SOIL. They lost everything - their homes, their possessions, their businesses - but despite all of that, they fought to hold onto their dignity and as much of “normal life” as possible. Part of that normal life, for so many Japanese Americans, was the ultra-American pastime of baseball. That’s exactly why we’re bringing you this episode today - an updated episode from last year where we talk about baseball, the Negro Leagues, and the history behind America’s favorite pastime - baseball - that you might not know, and probably weren’t taught in schools. What to listen for: The story of how baseball bridged a racial divide during WWII between white and Japanese children. The separate (and decidedly not equal) conditions under which Black and white ballplayers had to play Names of some Black superstar baseball players who – if/when integrated into the Hall of Fame – would be as good or better than some of the MLB athletes we celebrate today How to talk with your kids, from kindergarten through high school, about this specific period of baseball in American history Resources: Episode 50, Visit the Society for AMerican Baseball Research – To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/30084803

239: Why Should We Care About Presidential Immunity? 02/13/2024

238: Of Greed and Glory: The Master-Slave Dynamic Pervades America 01/30/2024

238: Of Greed and Glory: The Master-Slave Dynamic Pervades America You know when you have a conversation that provides you with a framework of a problem – one you may not have even known existed – and it opens your eyes in a whole new way? Yeah, today is one of those conversations. Because it helps look at questions like this: Do we really know what freedom is? How about liberty? And if we don’t know what those concepts mean, how do we know if we’ve lost them? And what role does the carceral system have in all of this? This might seem like a lot, but in a year in which we’re questioning everything - democracy and America, to name a few - if we don’t know what those concepts mean, how can we imagine a world full of them? That’s one of the questions that today’s guest asks - and answers - through her new book, Of Greed and Glory, which takes a look at her brother’s incarceration in Angola and uses that as a jumping-off point to ask some larger questions that, in all honesty, we need to be asking ourselves if we really want to be engaged in this fight. After you listen to this episode, please tell several friends about it, and look to support people doing this work in your community. As always, we’d love to hear what resonates with you - please do reach out and let us know. What to listen for: How incarcerating an individual is actually incarcerating a family Does America even want to be a democracy anymore? The master-slave dynamic – including how that shows up in patriarchy, and yes, why we believe women understand the significance of this conversation. Hello, Dear White Women podcast… How American enterprises are built on the same model as the slave plantation slate. Corporate America, we’re looking at you. What we can do to start changing the system About the author: DEBORAH G. PLANT is an African American and Africana Studies Independent Scholar, Writer, and Literary Critic specializing in the life and works of Zora Neale Hurston. She is the editor of the New York Times bestseller Barracoon: The Story of the Last “Black Cargo” by Zora Neale Hurston and the author of Alice Walker: A Woman for Our Times, a philosophical biography. She is also the editor of The Inside Light: New Critical Essays on Zora Neale Hurston, and the author of Zora Neale Hurston: A Biography of the Spirit and Every Tub Must Sit On Its Own Bottom: The Philosophy and Politics of Zora Neale Hurston. She holds MA and Ph. D. degrees in English from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and traveled to Benin as a Fulbright-Hays fellow. Plant played an instrumental role in founding the University of South Florida’s Department of Africana Studies, where she chaired the department for five years. She presently resides in Florida. To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/29702673

237: Helping to Dismantle or Uproot Systemic Racism Does Not Always Have to Be Heavy 01/16/2024

237: Helping to Dismantle or Uproot Systemic Racism Does Not Always Have to Be Heavy It can be as simple - and meaningful - as picking up a fiction novel, reading it, and discussing it with your book club. Because once you see, hear, and learn, we don’t think you’ll ever be able to “go back to how it used to be.” You’ll change. You’ll do things differently. You’ll make ripple effects happen. Change is not a one-size-fits-all phenomenon, nor is change-making. More often than not, it starts small, local, and with just one intentional action. Today we bring you just that book that we recommend you read with your book club in 2024. The fabulous co-authors of Rebecca Not Becky, Christine Platt, and Catherine Wigginton Green, drew on both their lived experiences and their work as DEI advocates to bring you all a relatable story that will impact the way you see the world, no matter who you are! What to listen for: Why this book is different - written by DEI practitioners from a Black and white perspective What the authors found most challenging and surprising about writing the book The unexpected feedback the authors are receiving so far How helpful it is to write and post real, positive reviews on works like this About the authors: Both live in Washington, DC. CHRISTINE PLATT writes literature for children and adults that centers on African diasporic experiences—past, present, and future. She holds Bachelor and Master of Arts degrees in African and African American studies as well as a Juris doctorate in general law. She currently serves as Executive Director for Baldwin For The Arts. CATHERINE WIGGINTON GREENE is a writer and filmmaker whose storytelling focuses on strengthening human connection and understanding. Her feature documentary “I’m Not Racist . . . Am I?” continues to be used throughout the US as a teaching tool for starting racial dialogue. A graduate of Coe College and Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism, Catherine is currently pursuing her doctorate from The George Washington University’s Graduate School of Education and Human Development. To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/29486278

236: DEAR WHITE WOMEN – Happy New Year 2024 01/02/2024

236: DEAR WHITE WOMEN – Happy New Year 2024 Akemashite Omedetou Gozaimasu! Happy New Year! We like to split this episode, one we have done every year at this time of year for the last four years, into two parts – reflections and projections. You’ll want to listen so you don’t miss how to stay involved in what’s next for us, the podcast, and 2024 as a whole. What to listen for: Our history, identities, and what we’ve learned in 2023, including huge successes through the year How to submit ideas for episode topics in 2024 & book us for speaking gigs: contact us at Stats around how Trump is looking increasingly like a dictator and how we must be vigilant in our own communities and have conversations to further our shared democratic goals About us: A graduate of Harvard College and Columbia Law School, Misasha Suzuki Graham (she/her) has been a practicing litigator for over 15 years, and is passionate about diversity, equity, and inclusion in the legal profession as well as in her communities. She is a facilitator, writer, and speaker regarding issues of racial justice, especially regarding children, the co-author of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism, and the co-host of Dear White Women, a social justice podcast. Misasha, who is biracial (Japanese and White), is married to a Black man and is the proud mom of two very active multiracial young boys. They live in the Bay Area of California with their largely indifferent cat. Sara Blanchard (she/her) helps build community and connection through conscious conversations, which she does as a facilitator, TEDx speaker, writer, and consultant. After graduating from Harvard and working at Goldman Sachs, Sara pursued the science and techniques of well-being and is a certified life coach, author of two books (Flex Mom and Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism), and co-host of Dear White Women, an award-winning weekly social justice podcast. Sara is biracial (Japanese and White), married to a White Canadian man, and is raising their two White-presenting girls to be compassionate, thoughtful advocates. They live in Denver, Colorado with their incredibly lovable dog. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/29286423

235: It’s Not Race, It’s Racism: Raising Multi-Ethnic Families, with Naomi Raquel Enright 12/19/2023

235: It’s Not Race, It’s Racism: Raising Multi-Ethnic Families, with Naomi Raquel Enright One of the things that we find most rewarding about our own journeys in anti-racism, racial justice, and social justice is when we come across practitioners who come from a similar framework that we do (heart-centered, humanity first, believe people when they tell you their stories, and all of those things) but also challenge us to think more broadly, or more deeply, about these topics in powerful ways. Our guest today does all of that and more. Naomi Raquel Enright is a DEI practitioner, Ecuadorian and Jewish, a mother, sister, daughter, and so many more things - and all of these identities influence how she views the world, especially when she thinks about raising her son. It was an honor to be able to talk about raising multiethnic children with her today, especially with her clear focus on the systems that keep us trapped in a narrative about race that helps zero people in the end. We hope that you sit with what she says, and think about how you frame your understanding of families, systems, and individuals as a result. What to listen for: How being raised as the daughter of an Ecuadorian mother and white father shaped Naomi’s perspectives in raising her son What to think about when assuming things about other families – in particular, whether someone is or isn’t a certain child’s mother – and what that felt like to be on the receiving end of The reasoning behind some new-to-us phrasing – “presumed to be white” instead of “white-presenting” or “passing for white” and “multi-ethnic” instead of “multiracial/biracial” Some thoughts on raising children the world presumes to be white, and what white families can do better About Naomi: Naomi Raquel Enright is a writer, educator, and consultant based in Brooklyn, NY. She is also a National SEED (Seeking Educational Equity and Diversity) Facilitator and a New York Appleseed board member. Raised in New York City, she was born in La Paz, Bolivia to an Ecuadorian mother and a Jewish-American father, and is a native speaker of English and Spanish. She holds a BA in Anthropology from Kenyon College and studied at the Universidad de Sevilla, Spain. She writes about racism and identity, loss, and parenting. Her essays have appeared in several publications including Hold The Line Magazine, Family Story, Role Reboot, Streetlight Magazine, among others, and in the anthologies, The Beiging of America (2017), Sharing Gratitude (2019) and Streetlight Magazine 2021 (2022). She has been interviewed on a number of podcasts, including Global Citizenship & Equity, Inclusion School, War Stories from the Womb, The Mixed Creator, and Project 25. Her essay The Hidden Curriculum, received an Honorable Mention in Streetlight Magazine’s 2021 Essay/Memoir Contest. Her book, Strength of Soul (2Leaf Press; University of Chicago Press), was published in April 2019. Read Naomi’s written work: /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/29138428

234: HOW to Have Uncomfortable Conversations, 2023 Version 12/05/2023

234: HOW to Have Uncomfortable Conversations, 2023 Version When you think about the holidays, what image comes to mind? Sitting around a holiday table with friends and family? Spending time with loved ones? Watching some holiday movies, sipping hot cocoa, and all the warm holiday fuzzies? Or is your reality more like that of a lot of Americans, especially this 2023 holiday season: uncomfortable or downright hostile conversations with members of your family who feel VERY differently about you on polarizing topics, which could include politics, social justice, the economy, democracy, genocide, and so much more? Most importantly, what are we supposed to do about this? Are we supposed to, as the New York Times suggest in their “How to Avoid Awkward Conversations” piece in mid-November, first try and “stifle those conversations”? That doesn’t seem very realistic, because let’s face it, your racist uncle is going to say what he wants to say, regardless of how many times you try to steer him towards “safe” topics. Here at the podcast, we don’t think people want to avoid having uncomfortable conversations - they just don’t know HOW to have them. More than anything, people want practical tips. Because let’s face it - we are in an extremely dark period both as a country and on a global level, we have what may be the most contentious election in our lifetime next year (I know, we said this in 2020 - we stand corrected), and we’re still going to be gathering with people over the next year. We think these conversations will only ramp up in frequency, tone, and seriousness going forward. So in this episode, we’re going to be sharing tons of tools that you need to have those uncomfortable conversations with family, with friends, and even yourself now through 2024. Please share your best tips with us, as well! What to listen for: Tips for before, during, and after your holiday gatherings A selection of these tips include: knowing yourself and your why, setting healthy boundaries, using our favorite question “what do you mean by that?” using “I statements,” with lots of specific examples questions you can use to reflect on what worked / didn’t work after the event. You’ll want to listen to the short episode to get the whole range of how to use these tips and more! To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at . Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/28889978

233: Hearts Recognize Hearts, with Ryan Alexander Holmes 11/21/2023

233: Hearts Recognize Hearts, with Ryan Alexander Holmes If you heard our last episode on the myths surrounding Black-on-Asian crime, you heard that narratives pitting one historically marginalized community against another is a tactic sometimes used to distract us from the real enemy that we all should be focused on (hint: it’s white supremacy). It helps when we deconstruct the facts and look at real studies to dispel those myths – and helps, even more, when we get the opportunity to listen to stories of people who live the Black and Asian experience as a multiracial American, when we hear their heart-centered experiences from start to end. That’s why we are so excited to share our conversation with Ryan Alexander Holmes, who’s not only an amazing actor (and king of hilarious reels on Instagram), but also someone who has thought deeply about race, identity, trauma, healing, and so much more. We believe that there’s something in this conversation for EVERYONE, regardless of how you identify, as it focuses on humanity first above all else. What to listen for: Our “secret superhero” names - and what our names mean to us The impact of growing up in a conservative wealthy area, as one of the only African American families, and how Ryan claimed community and belonging anyway How to find humor in (your own) culture, reorient your sense of validation, and speak your truth What Ryan wants people to know about the misperceptions around Black on Asian crime (hint: it’s not real) The importance of radical empathy and how to heal from racial trauma About Ryan: Ryan Alexander Holmes is an actor and content creator based in Los Angeles, known for his strong presence on social media where he uses comedy and writing to explore and embrace his mixed Chinese/African American heritage. He aims to inspire others of mixed backgrounds to embrace their identity and showcase the strength in multiculturalism. You can find more information at and follow him on Instagram @ryanalexh. To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at . Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/28681468

232: DEAR WHITE WOMEN: The Common Enemy Is White Supremacy 11/07/2023

232: DEAR WHITE WOMEN: The Common Enemy Is White Supremacy You know the viral videos - the ones showing Black people, usually men, attacking unsuspecting Asian folks, usually elderly Asians. These are atrocious, awful incidents of course. We don’t want anybody to be harmed. AND, since we can hold two thoughts in our heads at the same time, we also need to state that these viral videos are giving us an inaccurate impression of anti-Asian hate. For example, it turns out, according to a University of Maryland, College Park study, that most anti-Asian hate crimes are committed by white people, NOT Black people. Significantly so – more than three-quarters of offenders of anti-Asian hate crimes and incidents, from both before and during the pandemic, have been white. We want to have this conversation as part of our mixed race Asian arc, focusing on what we believe should be a point of solidarity but has instead been misunderstood to be a divisive issue with regard to Black and Asian Americans, with actual data as a reminder for all of us – that we need to train ourselves to pause when we see narratives that pit one historically marginalized group against another historically marginalized group, and ask ourselves if they’re true, because they’re often serving simply as a distraction to change the conversation, to move it away from the “real” enemy - white supremacy. Dismantling white supremacy is where all of us - Asians, Black folks, white folks, and more – need to keep our energy focused. What to listen for: Hate crime statistics - which show that even through the rise of anti-Asian hate through to the Covid years, there were still more anti-Black hate crimes than anti-Asian hate crimes. Perpetrators of hate crimes are predominantly white, as confirmed by multiple studies – NOT people of color, contrary to misperception due to viral videos Why is there this erroneous narrative of Black on Asian crime? Taking apart the idea of white adjacency, and challenging more people of Asian descent to stand in solidarity against the common enemy -- white supremacy. Examples of Black and Asian solidarity throughout history. To give us input on what you want from our newsletter, and/or share your Asian immigration stories, reach us via email at [email protected]. Follow Dear White Women so you don’t miss these conversations! Like what you hear? Don’t miss another episode and ! Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on , , and – and even more opinions and resources if you join our . /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/28512629

231: Schuyler Bailar, the Man Behind He/She/They 10/24/2023

231: Schuyler Bailar, the Man Behind He/She/They When we’re asked to do anti-bias talks at corporations, we’re sometimes asked by the different ERGs if we’re comfortable talking about LGTBQIA+ issues - and we answer with our truth, which is that we are both cisgender, heterosexual women who use she/her pronouns. Nobody in our families is LGBTQIA+. So while the skill sets to tackle bias are related, we prefer to give the floor to folks who can speak from firsthand experience and knowledge. Enter our incredible conversation partner today - Schuyler Bailar, who many of you may know as @pinkmantaray. We’ve been following him on Instagram, and his new book He/She/They is now on our short list of Best Books to Recommend Ever due to its practical structure and the fact that it’s full of questions he’s received about being transgender. Just like the videos and workshops and all the work that he does, it’s accessible, not shaming; it’s factual, personal and so very meaningful. And bonus - he fits right into our multiracial Asian arc, as a mixed-race Korean and white American! Remember, your LGBTQIA+ friends are not here to educate you; this isn’t their job. Schuyler has chosen to take on this role, so listen to this episode, read the book, watch his informative factual social media videos and make sure you’re doing the work yourself to be a better, more understanding human being! What to listen for: Intersectionality, and Schuyler’s own experience growing up biracial The importance of exploring why you are who you are, for ALL of us, when it comes to gender The quick take-down of the arguments from people working to push trans women out of women’s sports A bullet-pointed list of what NOT to say to transgender folks (timestamp 24.07 - 28.30) How to remind yourself of joy and a sense of thriving in the world, when it gets rough What Schuyler wants cisgender, heterosexual women to do differently, once you listen to the episode Make sure you sign up for our and follow us on Instagram @ so you get the two bonus questions we asked Schuyler! About Schuyler: Schuyler Bailar (he/him) is the first transgender athlete to compete in any sport on an NCAA Division 1 men’s team. By 15, he was one of the nation’s top - 20 15-year-old breast-strokers. By 17, he set a national age-group record. In college, he swam for Harvard University, on Harvard’s winningest team in 50 years. Schuyler’s difficult choice – to transition while potentially giving up the prospect of being an NCAA Champion – was historic. His story has appeared everywhere from 60 Minutes to The Washington Post. Schuyler’s tireless advocacy has earned him numerous honors including LGBTQ Nation’s Instagram Advocate for 2020. In 2021, Schuyler also released his first middle-grade novel, Obie Is Man Enough. And in 2022, Schuyler created LaneChanger.com making gender literacy education accessible to every team, school, and company. Follow Schuyler on Instagram @pinkmantaray /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/28390322

230: Mixed Asians and Immigration: It’s Not A Simple Story 10/10/2023

229: Mixed Asian (Media) with Alex Chester-Iwata 09/26/2023

229: Mixed Asian (Media) with Alex Chester-Iwata When you turn on the TV or open a book, or look for memes on the Internet… how easy is it to find someone who looks like you? Your family? Because it’s never been that easy for us. So when today’s guest, who started her own media company called Mixed Asian Media out of her OWN frustration over not being represented out there, came across our radar, we immediately wanted to know all about her, her company, and her vision of what being mixed Asian is in today’s society, media, and our own journeys. We couldn’t wait to have this chat with Alex Chester-Iwata, as today we get VERY real about growing up mixed Asian in the United States, belonging in Asian spaces, the questions that White, Asian, and other monoracial (listen in to find out more about THAT word) people ask biracial and multiracial individuals that we REALLY wish you wouldn’t, and so much more. This episode continues our look into what it means to be biracial and multiracial in this country, and even if that’s not you, we guarantee that someone you know is living this experience. This is about all of us. What to listen for: Our latest thoughts on representation in the media, and what led to the formation of Mixed Asian Media How to make spaces more explicitly welcoming of multiracial people. Why we love the term “monoracial” - and what we want more monoracial folks to know about what NOT to ask multiracial folks. About Alex Chester-Iwata: Alex the Founder/CEO of Mixed Asian Media - A website and community for mixed APIs, recognized by the Nielsen Consumer Report on AAPIs. Alex received the 2023 Women of Distinction of Assembly 69th of California award and last year was one of the Asian Hustle Network’s top 50 Unsung Heros. Alex received her BA in 2021 from St. Mary’s College she graduated with honors and received the Dean’s Award for community engagement and academic excellence. Alex is a board member of ACE Next Gen's NYC Chapter and is on the Board of Directors for the American Advertising Federation LA. She is a community leader for the Lunar Collective and she is also part of the 2023 Jews of Color cohort The Workshop, she also serves on the advisory board of her alma mater St. Mary's LEAP Program, and is a member of Gold House and is part of their inaugural Journalism Accelerator Program Alex is also an Actor. Some acting credits include Broadway’s How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Gillian in This Space Between Us Off Broadway’s Keen Company. TV credits include New Amsterdam, The Good Fight, and The Closer, to name a few. @AlexFChester @MixedAsianMedia /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/28090379

228: Multiracial Asians - It’s Time to Get Personal 09/12/2023

227: Reimagine Inclusion with Mita Mallick 08/29/2023

227: Reimagine Inclusion with Mita Mallick We do this work for our kids, and for ourselves. And when we talk about this work, there are a lot of spheres we need to change to make this world better for said kids - including schools, kitchen tables, policing and the false idea of law & order, public services, government, and the workplace. And, to focus on workplaces for a second, we always talk about how when we discuss racism, we’re talking about the SYSTEMS that run our society – but we also make it really clear that systems are made up of people, and so if we don’t take the time to do some inner work, we won’t be making changes to the systems that’ll be meaningful and sustainable. That’s why we love this discussion we’re about to bring you, about reimagining inclusion in the workplace. It was really a fantastic action-oriented book that lays out practical things that you can do in the workplace to help uproot systemic racism, literally things you can start doing differently TODAY. And you know how much we love practical action-oriented things - it sort of reminded me of our own book’s listen/learn/act framework! Plus, we are huge fans of Mita Mallick, who if you aren’t following on LinkedIn already, you should be. So listen in, and if you like what you hear, go on and do two things - order the book Reimagine Inclusion, and then go tell someone at work about Mita’s work so you can bring her into your organization and deepen the change! What to listen for: How Reimagine Inclusion is different from other books on DEI in the workplace Some of the 13 myths that Mita deconstructs How we should frame the role of white men and women in this work Where the cultures of companies seem to be headed right now About Mita: Mita Mallick is a corporate change-maker with a track record of transforming businesses. She gives innovative ideas a voice and serves customers and communities with purpose. She has had an extensive career as a marketer in the beauty and consumer product goods space, being a fierce advocate of including and representing Black and Brown communities. She is the author of Reimagine Inclusion: Debunking 13 Myths to Transform Your Workplace, being published by Wiley in October 2023. Her passion for inclusive storytelling led her to become a Chief Diversity Officer, to build end-to-end inclusion ecosystems across big and small organizations. Mallick has brought her talent and expertise to companies like Carta, Unilever, Pfizer, AVON, Johnson & Johnson and more. She’s a sought-after speaker and coach to start-up founders, executives, and public CEOs. She is also the co-host of the popular podcast, The Brown Table Talk, part of the LinkedIn Podcast Network. On the Brown Table Talk, Mita and Dee Marshall share stories and tips on how to help Women of Color win at work, and advice for allies on how they can show up. Mallick is a LinkedIn Top Voice, a contributor for Harvard Business Review, Adweek, Entrepreneur, and Fast Company. Mallick has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, Forbes, Axios, Essence, Cosmopolitan magazine, and Business Insider. She was featured in a documentary created by Soledad O’Brien Productions for CBS News entitled: Women in the Workplace and the Unfinished Fight for Equality. Mallick holds a B.A. from Barnard College, Columbia University, and an M.B.A. from Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business. She lives in New Jersey, US, with her husband and two children. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/27854652

226: Birmingham, Bending Toward Justice, And Hope, with Doug Jones and Bill Baxley 08/15/2023

226: Birmingham, Bending Toward Justice, And Hope, with Doug Jones and Bill Baxley They say never meet your heroes, but we’re so glad we got to meet two of ours, as they gave us the shot of hope at the end of our conversation that we all need, considering everything that’s happening around us currently. To be honest, we had been looking forward to this conversation ever since David Louie (Episode 212, if you want to go back and listen) made this introduction, and it was everything we had hoped it would be. Not only because Doug Jones and Bill Baxley are legal powerhouses, but also because they were just two men, doing what they believed to be right, because perhaps they were the only ones who could have fought this fight. And that - the power of one, standing in your beliefs and speaking up for those who cannot - is something we should all carry with us from this conversation. What to listen for: How two white men growing up in the South came to their belief in and advocacy of equal justice The role that witnesses - especially the white wives of Klans members - played in the various trials, both in positive and negative ways What these lawyers would say to people who diminish the ongoing impact of systemic racism, and claim that “slavery happened so long ago”... The most powerful way young people can do so that lawmakers hear their voices About Doug Jones: A celebrated prosecutor who brought long-overdue justice to the victims of the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing, Doug has built his career on fighting impossible battles. In 2017, he shocked the political establishment by winning a special election to fill a U.S. Senate seat in Alabama—the first Democrat to do so in 25 years in the state. On Capitol Hill, he quickly built a reputation as a well-regarded and effective legislator, passing more than two dozen bipartisan bills into law in just three years. Doug’s first job after graduating from Cumberland School of Law at Samford University was as staff counsel to the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Sen. Howell Heflin (D-AL). Following his stint in Washington, he served as an assistant U.S. attorney from 1980 to 1984. Doug left government service in 1984 and was in the private practice of law in Birmingham, Alabama, until President Bill Clinton nominated him to the position of U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Alabama. His nomination was confirmed by the Senate in November 1997, and he served as U.S. attorney until June 2001. It was while serving in that position that he successfully prosecuted 2 of the 4 men responsible for the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church—finally bringing full justice and closure nearly 40 years after the attack that killed four young girls. Along with taking on the Ku Klux Klan, he indicted domestic terrorist Eric Rudolph and prosecuted other criminals who sought to use fear, hatred, and violence to inhibit the rights of others. Doug is the author of Bending Toward Justice: The Birmingham Church Bombing that Changed the Course of Civil Rights which recounts a key moment in our long national struggle for equality and the successful prosecution of two Ku Klux Klan members 40 years later. In 2022, Doug was selected by President Joe Biden to be the Nomination Advisor for Legislative Affairs to help to guide the selection, nomination, and successful confirmation of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court of the United States. In this role, Doug continued to upon the important relationships he had established while in Congress to help gain bipartisan support for the President’s nominee. Today, Doug is of Counsel with ArentFox Schiff, a Senior Distinguish Fellow with the Center for American Progress, and is involved in a variety of different political and civic organizations. Doug resides in Birmingham, AL with his wife, Louise, and dogs, Scout and Dakota. He has three children Courtney (married to Rip Andrews), Carson, and Christopher as well as two grandchildren, Ever and Ollie. About Bill Baxley: Bill Baxley was elected Attorney General at age 28. Remarkably, he was already a seasoned prosecutor, having tried dozens of jury trials as District Attorney in Houston and Henry counties. He served as Alabama's Attorney General from 1971 to 1979 and its Lieutenant Governor from 1983 to 1987. As Attorney General, Bill served as lead trial counsel in every major action on the State's behalf, civil and criminal. He aggressively prosecuted them all. He appointed the state's first African-American assistant attorney general, who later became a federal judge. His successful prosecution of Ku Klux Klansman Robert Chambliss for the 1963 bombing of Birmingham's Sixteenth Street Baptist Church is featured in the Spike Lee documentary, 4 Little Girls. His legal accomplishments are also documented in Lay Down with Dogs, Until Justice Rolls Down, and numerous other publications. Throughout his career, Bill Baxley has served in the Alabama Army National Guard, beginning as an enlisted clerk and rising through the ranks to retire as Colonel, JAG Corps. He has successfully represented clients in the United States Supreme Court, the Alabama Supreme Court, and in appellate and trial courts over which they exercise jurisdiction. He primarily represents large business corporations yet continues to represent individuals of modest means. Those efforts have earned him the distinction of being selected as a Fellow in the International Academy of Trial Lawyers as well as being recognized by his peers as a Super Lawyer. Also: Listen to : Birmingham Church Bombings – How Did We Get Here on Dear White Women for a historic look at this tragedy /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/27752013

225: The Humanity Archive, with Jermaine Fowler 08/01/2023

224: Evergreen, with Naomi Hirahara 07/18/2023

224: Evergreen, with Naomi Hirahara If someone talks to me (Sara) about summer reading, honestly, my brain first goes to fiction novels. I love them, and I have been noticing that if they’re particularly well-written, I end up learning a whole lot about humanity. And the book we’re highlighting for you today is just one of those phenomenal book experiences. We’re excited to bring to you a book set in the era just after World War II and the incarceration of Japanese Americans on American soil. So many books talk about the experiences IN those camps, but we’ve seen very few opportunities for us to all learn about what it was like for people to return to society, to be released with very few possessions and no real home to return to. Naomi Hirahara dives into this period of history in her books Clark and Division, which was set in 1944 Chicago, and its sequel which we’ll focus on today, Evergreen, set in postwar Los Angeles. We highly recommend both of these books - please let us know what you think! What to listen for: Why it was important for author Naomi Hirahara - who writes both fiction and nonfiction books - felt like this topic was best suited for a historical fiction novel How her personal experience as a Japanese American played into the storyline When you can find her on her book tour for this brand new novel, Evergreen, in 2023! About the author: Naomi Hirahara is the Mary Higgins Clark Award–winning author of Clark and Division, and the Edgar Award–winning author of the Mas Arai mystery series, including Summer of the Big Bachi, which was a Publishers Weekly Best Book of the Year and one of the Chicago Tribune's Ten Best Mysteries and Thrillers; Gasa Gasa Girl; Snakeskin Shamisen; and Hiroshima Boy. She is also the author of the LA-based Ellie Rush mysteries. A former editor of The Rafu Shimpo newspaper, she has co-written non-fiction books like Life after Manzanar and the award-winning Terminal Island: Lost Communities of Los Angeles Harbor. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/27452325

223: Catching Up with Christine Platt 07/04/2023

223: Catching Up with Christine Platt Our notes for this conversation with Christine, before we had it, were this: expect this to be a casual vibe, hilarious interaction, lighthearted fun conversation! We would say that was EXACTLY what this was, in a nutshell. We went into this thinking we’d probably discuss some stuff like her upcoming book(s), plans, and more. But it really was more of a conversation that was about so many other facets of life than we had planned out, and it also seemed like the perfect conversation to air this holiday week. And - if this doesn’t make you want to hear more about Rebecca and Becky in the fall, we don’t know what will! What to listen for: Time, and how we process this as we get older Intentionality, and how this plays a role in everything in our lives from simpler living, to projects we choose, to how we spend our time Rebecca, Not Becky - the story of a suburban interracial friendship with SO MUCH under the surface, coming out later in 2023! About Christine: Christine Platt is an author and advocate also known as The Afrominimalist. She holds a B.A. in Africana Studies from the University of South Florida, an M.A. in African and African American Studies from The Ohio State University, and a J.D. from Stetson University College of Law. From working with educators and children through the ADL’s No Place for Hate in Schools initiative to serving as a Senior Policy Advisor for the US Department of Energy, Christine has dedicated her career to working at the intersections of social justice and environmental sustainability. A believer in the power of storytelling as a tool for social change, her literature centers on teaching and building empathy and awareness for people of all ages. Christine is a member of the American Association of Blacks in Energy, Women’s Council on Energy & the Environment, Association of Writers and Writing Programs, Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators, Association of Black Women Historians, the Association for the Study of African American Life and History, and serves as an Ambassador for Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/27358512

222: The First, The Few, The Only with Deepa Purushothaman 06/20/2023

222: The First, The Few, The Only with Deepa Purushothaman We’re so excited to kick off our summer book club with this amazing book: The First, The Few, The Only. When we interviewed Deepa for this episode, we remember being so excited to talk to her about this book because, while we’ve talked about a lot of books written for White people to learn more about race and racism, it’s not often that we come across business books that are written specifically for women of color. In fact, women of color still seem largely invisible in many ways in the workforce - but we’re absolutely not. So get ready to lean in (but maybe not in the way that you’re used to hearing that phrase) and reimagine what a truly inclusive workplace could and should look like, from a perspective that you may not be hearing in your own. And, if what you hear is something you’d like to dive deeper into (we hope so!), please pick up the book and read it for yourself. We’d love to hear your thoughts once you do. What to listen for: How this book is different from one written for white women Defining the term “woman of color” Five archetypes that many women of color take on in their places of work – do you recognize any of your colleagues? The view of solutions and the new rules of power – can we change the current structures of society, or do we need to break the system to start again? About Deepa Purushothaman [per-shot-a-man], AUTHOR | LEADER | SPEAKER Deepa is a former senior executive and a corporate inclusion visionary. She challenges and redefines the status quo of leadership, success, and power by centering the experiences of Women of Color. As a senior partner at Deloitte, Deepa spent more than 20 years helping clients grow. She was also the US Managing Partner of WIN, Deloitte's renowned Women's Initiative, and was the first Indian-American woman and one of the youngest people to make partner in the firm's history. In 2020, Deepa left Deloitte to co-found nFormation, a membership-based community for professional Women of Color. She is an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School, and a board member of Avasara, India's first leadership academy for girls. The First, The Few, The Only: How Women of Color Can Redefine Power in Corporate America, Deepa’s debut book, was published by HarperCollins in 2022 to international acclaim. Deepa is a TED and SXSW speaker and has been featured in , , , , , , and . Her TED talks have almost 3M views. She has degrees from Wellesley College, Harvard Kennedy School, and the London School of Economics, and lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their four fur kids. CONNECT WITH DEEPA Website: www.deepapuru.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deepapuru Instagram: www.instagram.com/deepa.puru /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/27155253

221: We’re Not Banning Books This Summer 06/06/2023

220: A Sound bowl Healing Session, with Christina Ifurung 05/23/2023

220: A Sound bowl Healing Session, with Christina Ifurung As we’ve discussed on the show, as biracial people with Japanese immigrant parents, anti-Asian hate is something we’ve had to be even more keenly aware of over the last few years. Even beyond that point of tension, let’s be honest, the world is just a lot - for everyone - nowadays. So we wanted to present you with a gift. The gift of connecting with spiritual energy, along with an actual sound healing that you can pull over to the side of the road for, or sit or lay down in a safe space to listen to and absorb. What to listen for: What this concept of “Asian” means to a first-generation Filipina What the ancestral, divine art of sound healing can do What to look out for when choosing a practitioner A brilliant xx minute sound healing session - our collective gift to you starting at xx:xx into this show About Christina: Christina Ifurung is the owner of Kapwa Healing. She has a 1:1 sanctuary where she holds sacred sessions that include, reiki, chakra assessments, sound healing, and mentorship in Centennial. Kapwa is derived from the Filipinx term “pagkikipagkapwa” coined by Viriligio Enriquez which stands for an inner connectedness and shared self. She is a certified sound healer under Ali Young and the Medicine of Sound Academy. She was certified as a Reiki Practitioner with Jess Priesta (aka @jessbeinspired). She is also a registered nurse with 10 years of Newborn ICU experience and is currently working in infusion therapy as well. Healing runs in her veins as she also has tracked a Babaylan (Filipinx Shaman) bloodline that links to her mother’s side from the northern Ilocos region of the Philippines. She is also a mother to a bi-racial Hispanic and Filipinx spunky brilliant six-year-old boy. Also recently married to a White American male from a small town in Illinois who dedicates his life to supporting others in their health journeys. For Christina, honoring her ancestry is a strong sacred piece of her practice that she leans into daily and shares with others in her ceremonies in hopes to inspire you to Re-Member your lineage and who you Be. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/26920449

219: The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself, with David Mura 05/16/2023

219: The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself, with David Mura We’ve spoken about cross-racial solidarity a few times, but never with quite the beautifully illustrative stories and historical references and personally motivating oomph that we did today. And I think it’s important to note that this conversation is one that happened between the three of us, all identifying as Asian and American, about topics that involve not only our shared Japanese American and Asian American history but included a focus on how we collectively combat White supremacy. We get to speak with David Mura, author of The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself - yes, it’s quite the title - and if you have any desire to make any change in this country whatsoever, you’ll want to commit to listening to this conversation in its entirety. We absolutely loved it. What to listen for: David’s personal upbringing as a third-generation Japanese American, whose American parents were incarcerated in the internment camps on US soil - and therefore raised him to “want to be white” How his lens changed, and importantly, why the lens we tell stories through matters so, so much Stories about Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and how we need to include “AND” in their narratives - they were great AND they were racist slaveowners The actions white people need to take - knowledge and social interactions, a spiritual journey, and a political commitment Cross-racial, Asian-Black solidarity About David Mura: David Mura is an essayist, memoirist, poet, and fiction writer who brings a unique perspective to our multi-racial and multi-cultural society. A third-generation Japanese-American, he has written intimately about his life as a man of color and the connections between race, culture, and history. In public appearances interweaving poetry, performance, and personal testament, he provides powerful insights into the racial issues facing America today. Mura's memoirs, poems, essays, plays, and performances have won wide critical praise and numerous awards. Their topics range from contemporary Japan to the legacy of the internment camps and the history of Japanese Americans to critical explorations of an increasingly diverse America. He gives presentations at educational institutions, businesses, and other organizations throughout the country. Buy links: Bookshop: Barnes and Noble: Amazon: Social media links: Website: Facebook: Twitter: /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/26836314

218: White Women, Jane Crow, and The Gallery of Accomplices 05/09/2023

218: White Women, Jane Crow, and The Gallery of Accomplices When the email came into our inbox introducing us to a multimedia project called “Jane Crow, Then & Now,” we were immediately intrigued. After all, Jane Crow - or White women’s support for White supremacy - is something we’ve talked about a lot. This support, of white women for white supremacy, has gone on for way longer than most people realize; it’s not just confined to the South; and it’s a prevalent force in our schools, meaning that students and teachers of color are often oppressed due to the power of white women’s support of white supremacy. As we’ve often said, White women have a lot of power in their own spheres of influence, where two-thirds of women voters are white, 80% of public school teachers are white women, and beyond that, one of these many spheres is deeply personal: child-rearing. It’s the conversations and actions that White women are taking with regard to their own children, and what they’re teaching them, both implicitly and explicitly, that will change the course of the future - for the collective good, or for individual gain. A lot of White women have chosen to uphold White supremacy through apathy or inaction, even if they don’t consider themselves racist. Those who have chosen to walk against the tide of our country’s trajectory toward racism have done so at great personal cost - but sometimes, for even greater collective gain: our children’s futures. That’s why, on the eve of Mother’s Day, we’d like to highlight this project by EdPost which highlights the allies in history: the White women accomplices who challenged the system and worked for equity in education for Black and brown children, at great personal cost. For white women looking for historical role models and sheroes, the Gallery of Accomplices provides a GREAT list of resources to encourage and inspire all people to deepen our historical knowledge and commitment to cultural humility, deeper listening when working with children, and families, and communities whose experiences differ from our own. What to listen for: Stories of incredible white women who risked their own reputations and capital to do the right thing. Lydia Maria Child, Sandra Adickes, The Grimké Sisters, Myrtilla Miner, and Barbara Henry are all people whose names you should know Huge thank you to Maureen Kelleher, editorial director at Brightbeam, publisher for EdPost, who brought the Jane Crow Gallery of Accomplices to our attention Resources: Gallery of Accomplices: More info about the project overall: /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/26770233

217: The Biracial Asian Experience in America 05/02/2023

217: The Biracial Asian Experience in America If you’re listening to this episode when it’s released, we’re now in May of 2023, which is also AAPI Heritage Month. There are a lot of names for this month, which is great, as there are also a lot of countries and ethnicities represented by the simple word “Asian”. But one group of people that is often left out of the overarching Asian umbrella are the biracial Asians - and, given our own identities in this space, this is something that we experience regularly. So, to kick off AAPI Heritage Month from a perspective not often discussed, we’re focusing today on our personal stories of being biracial Asian women, and what identity, belonging, and inclusion mean when we look at being Asian in this country through this lens. And, since it’s us, we’ll be throwing in a little bit of history, laws, and psych along the way. What to listen for: Sara & Misasha’s personal experiences growing up biracial as one of the OG legally biracial folks in this country’s history The census data - and how we could only check one box until 2000! The Loving v. Virginia decision, and how that opened up the door to our families being allowed to exist How we want more Asian people to stop gatekeeping who is “Asian enough” and instead, start banding together with other marginalized groups to push back against White supremacy – because it’s all of us or none of us. In this episode, we highlight the podcast . In many Chinese sayings, “ten thousand” is used in a poetic sense to convey something infinite, vast, and unfathomable. For Shin Yu Pai, the award-winning poet and museologist who hosts the podcast, the story of Asians in America is just that. In Ten Thousand Things, Shin Yu explores a collection of objects and artifacts that tell us something about Asian American life – from a second-hand novel to a blue suit worn by Congressman Andy Kim on January 6. Ten Thousand Things is a vibrant, diverse, and bittersweet celebration of Asian America ... and a challenge for all of us to reimagine stories of the past and future. Featured guests this season include Disability Visibility Project podcast host Alice Wong; transgender and non-binary, poet and educator Ebo Barton; and NED founder Eason Yang; among others. /episode/index/show/dearwhitewomen/id/26688813

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