Counterflow with Buck Johnson
The Counterflow Podcast is a weekly show featuring discussions and interviews with people who are outside of and critical toward mainstream liberal and conservative politics. Counterflow challenges the conventional narratives sold to us as truth. The show features thinkers from all backgrounds, who do not fit into the narrow framework of fashionable opinion. The show addresses cultural, spiritual and lifestyle issues as well as philosophy and geo-politics. Host Buck Johnson (formerly of the Death To Tyrants Podcast) is a musician, firefighter and Orthodox Christian and has always had an interest and drive to go one way while everyone else runs the other direction.
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Ep. 417 - Growing Up Soviet, Finding Christ, and Ministering Behind Bars, with Fr. Sergei Sveshnikov
06/09/2026
Ep. 417 - Growing Up Soviet, Finding Christ, and Ministering Behind Bars, with Fr. Sergei Sveshnikov
Fr. Sergei Sveshnikov grew up in the Soviet Union during the final years of state-sponsored atheism before immigrating to the United States on his own. After some life happenings and lots of revelations, he became an Orthodox priest. A fascinating aspect of his ministry has been in the prisons. We get into what that is and how it compares and contrasts with being a priest in a parish. In this conversation, we discuss life under Soviet atheism, prison ministry, freedom and repentance, the struggle against the passions, fasting, and the challenges facing Christians in the modern world. We also explore technology, artificial intelligence, and what it means to cultivate wisdom in an age overflowing with information. Sponsor: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 416 - Writing the Collapse: Fiction, Faith, and Spiritual Warfare, with Andrew Edwards
06/02/2026
Ep. 416 - Writing the Collapse: Fiction, Faith, and Spiritual Warfare, with Andrew Edwards
In this episode, I chat with author Andrew Edwards to discuss his novel King of Dogs and the deeper realities that inspired it. While the conversation begins with fiction, it quickly expands into a wide-ranging discussion on spiritual warfare, civilizational decline, modern nihilism, masculinity, technology, geopolitics, and what it means to remain fully human in an age of fragmentation. We explore the themes beneath the story: the forces competing for our attention, the spiritual consequences of a culture without transcendence, the nature of suffering, and the battle for the human soul in a world increasingly defined by distraction and disorder. Is modern society experiencing a political crisis, a cultural crisis, or a spiritual one? And how can Christians cultivate clarity, courage, and faithfulness amid uncertainty and collapse? This conversation uses fiction as a lens to examine the world we actually inhabit. About Andrew Edwards: Andrew Edwards is a novelist, essayist, and cultural commentator whose work explores the intersection of faith, meaning, masculinity, power, and civilizational decline. His novel King of Dogs blends post-collapse fiction, spiritual symbolism, and philosophical reflection to examine what remains of the human person when the structures of modern life begin to fail. Through both fiction and non-fiction writing, Edwards explores the moral, spiritual, and cultural questions shaping the modern world. Connect with Andrew Edwards: * X / Twitter: * Substack: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 415 - Leaving Evangelicalism for the Ancient Church, with Fr. David Hovik
05/26/2026
Ep. 415 - Leaving Evangelicalism for the Ancient Church, with Fr. David Hovik
What happens when an Evangelical pastor begins seriously studying the early Church — and realizes modern Christianity looks very different from ancient Christianity? In this episode, I chat with Father David Hovik to discuss his remarkable journey from Evangelical ministry into the Orthodox Church, and how that journey ultimately brought much of his congregation with him. This story is truly captivating. We talk about the spiritual hunger that exists beneath modern life, the limits of contemporary Christianity, and why more people are searching for something ancient, rooted, and sacramental. Fr. David reflects on the risks, resistance, and transformation that came with leaving behind familiar forms of Christianity in pursuit of what he became convinced was the historic Church founded by Christ and preserved through the centuries. This conversation explores: - Fr. David’s path from Evangelical pastor to Orthodox priest - The role of Church history in his conversion - Why modern Christianity can feel spiritually fragmented - The difference between “personal faith” and historic Christianity - Liturgy, sacraments, and the ancient Christian worldview - Bringing an entire congregation into Orthodoxy - Spiritual formation in a distracted modern age - Why people are increasingly drawn to the ancient faith Fr. David brings a calm, pastoral, and deeply grounded perspective to questions many modern Christians are quietly wrestling with. FOLLOW FR. DAVID / ST. ANDREW ORTHODOX CHURCH: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 414 - Orthodox Nationalism and the Israel Question, with Benjamin Michael
05/19/2026
Ep. 414 - Orthodox Nationalism and the Israel Question, with Benjamin Michael
Host of “American Orthodoxy” a live Orthodox news show, Benjamin Michael (formerly Orthodox Luigi) is a prior Marine Corps Officer and now Orthodox Christian apologist and Independent Journalist. He engages in public debates, and creates educational content on Orthodox theology and various topics related to politics and religion, while also conducting advocacy work in Washington, D.C. He is the Director of Public Affairs, Co-Founder, and Chair of Orthodox Worldwide, INC. He also serves as Secretary of the Society of St. John of San Francisco, a nationwide pan-Orthodox fraternity. IN THIS EPISODE: * Benjamin Michael’s journey into Orthodoxy * Why he began speaking publicly about Israel and geopolitics * What people mean by “the Jewish Question” * Orthodox perspectives on nationalism and identity * The modern Right and its internal fractures * Boomers, Gen X, and the changing political landscape * Zionism, empire, and modern power structures * The Russian Revolution and ideological upheaval * Marxism, globalism, and spiritual dislocation * The Third Temple and modern prophetic movements * Why many people feel politically betrayed * The difference between Orthodox nationalism and secular nationalism For Ben’s show: Donate to the show here: https://www.patreon.com/counterflow Visit my website: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 413 - Journey to Reality: Sacramental Christianity in a Secular Age, with Dr. Zachary Porcu
05/12/2026
Ep. 413 - Journey to Reality: Sacramental Christianity in a Secular Age, with Dr. Zachary Porcu
What if the biggest obstacle to understanding Christianity is not disbelief—but modernity itself? In this episode, Buck chats with Dr. Zachary Porcu to discuss sacramental Christianity, the modern secular mindset, and why so many people today—even Christians—struggle to see reality the way the ancient Church did. They explore the difference between treating Christianity as a system of ideas versus participating in it as a lived reality. The conversation dives into the nature of truth, the problem of interpretation, the meaning of the Trinity, the Fall of man, suffering, evil, and why the sacramental worldview of historic Christianity feels so foreign to the modern mind. They also discuss the necessity of the Church, the priesthood, the sacraments, and why Christianity cannot be reduced to either “just me and my Bible” or vague spirituality detached from embodied worship and communion. IN THIS EPISODE * Why modern people misunderstand Christianity * The difference between text-based and sacramental Christianity * The meaning of “participatory” truth * The Trinity and the problem of “the one and the many” * Why modern culture struggles to understand love * The deeper meaning of the Fall * The origins of evil and suffering * Problems with modern Christian views of suffering * The necessity of the Church and priesthood * Why sacraments are more than symbols * Where the Bible fits within the life of the Church * Recovering a sacramental view of reality ABOUT DR. ZACHARY PORCU Zachary Porcu is the author of Journey to Reality and the host of the podcast The Roots of Everything. Zachary earned his PhD in Church History at The Catholic University of America under the direction of Robin Darling Young. He holds additional degrees in Philosophy, Classics, and Interdisciplinary Humanities and has taught Greek, Latin, history, philosophy, and theology at private schools and universities on both the East and West coasts. Zachary is a catechist at St. Andrew’s Orthodox Church, an editor at St. Vladimir’s Seminary Press, and a lecturer at St. Athanasius College. LINKS Ancient Faith Publishing Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 412 - If a Nation Loses Truth, What Is Left to Die For? with James Webb
05/05/2026
Ep. 412 - If a Nation Loses Truth, What Is Left to Die For? with James Webb
In this episode, James Webb and I discuss the lessons America failed to carry forward from past wars, and why institutional memory seems to fade so quickly. We get into the current geopolitical landscape, including Israel, Iran, and the risks of escalation—and what’s often left out of mainstream narratives. Jim breaks down how war is actually decided at the highest levels, and why the gap between leadership and the average citizen continues to widen. We also explore the role of moral language in war—how concepts like “good” and “evil” are used, and sometimes misused, in shaping public support. From there, the conversation turns deeper: the spiritual and psychological cost of war, what it does to the people who fight it, and whether modern society has any real framework for dealing with that kind of weight. Finally, we ask the question at the center of it all: If a nation loses its relationship to truth—what is left to die for? ABOUT THE GUEST James (Jim) Webb is a third-generation Marine who, following his service, has worked in policy, politics, and journalism. In 2005, he dropped out of college to enlist in the Marine Corps Infantry and fought in the Battle of Ramadi from 2006–2007. After completing his degree, Jim worked on Capitol Hill for U.S. Senator Rand Paul, where he served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He later worked at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and as a Senior Policy Advisor for presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Jim has also worked as a journalist for multiple outlets, including embedding with U.S. troops across Afghanistan. Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 411 - The Self-Help Trap: Therapy, the Passions, and the War for the Soul, with Fr. Turbo Qualls
04/28/2026
Ep. 411 - The Self-Help Trap: Therapy, the Passions, and the War for the Soul, with Fr. Turbo Qualls
We’re living in a moment where everyone is “doing the work”—therapy, healing, boundaries, trauma language—and yet people seem more anxious, unstable, and internally fragmented than ever. In this episode, Fr. Turbo Qualls joins me to challenge the assumptions behind modern mental health culture and to ask a deeper question: are we misdiagnosing spiritual problems as psychological ones? We get into the difference between trauma and the passions, where therapy can be helpful—and where it quietly falls short—and how certain modern practices can drift into spiritually dangerous territory when they’re detached from the life of the Church. We also discuss why the Orthodox tradition emphasizes repentance over self-focus, how confession differs from therapy, and what real healing actually looks like—not as self-optimization, but as transformation. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything right but still feel stuck, this conversation goes beneath the surface. OINTMENT is a conference and movement centered on healing the soul through the life of the Church. At a time when “healing” is often reduced to self-focus and psychological frameworks, OINTMENT aims to reorient people toward repentance, ascetic struggle, and communion with God as the true path to restoration. The conference brings together Orthodox clergy, teachers, and speakers to address topics like spiritual illness, the passions, modern therapy culture, and what it means to actually be healed—not just feel better. It’s designed for people who sense that something is missing in the modern conversation around mental health and are looking for something deeper, more grounded, and ultimately more transformative. Learn more: Fr. Turbo Qualls / OINTMENT For more from Father Turbo go here: Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 410 - War, Truth, and the Battle You Can’t See, with Darryl Cooper
04/21/2026
Ep. 410 - War, Truth, and the Battle You Can’t See, with Darryl Cooper
In this episode, I talk with Darryl Cooper, host of the Martyr Made Podcast, and cohost of the Provoked Podcast (with Scott Horton as well) to talk about war, power, and the unseen forces shaping both. With a background as a Navy Aegis technician and a decade as a DOD engineer, Darryl brings a unique perspective on leadership, influence, and the gap between narrative and reality. We get into his evolving views on political power, the danger of losing moral clarity in the pursuit of “understanding,” and why history is often more complicated—and more uncomfortable—than people want to admit. We also talk about something deeper: spiritual warfare. Darryl shares how his conversion to Orthodox Christianity changed the way he sees the world—not just politically or historically, but spiritually. Because at a certain point, you realize this isn’t just about what’s happening out there. There’s a battle happening beneath it all. About Darryl Cooper Darryl Cooper is the host of the Martyr Made Podcast, and cohost of the Provoked Podcast. His MartyrMade show is known for long-form, narrative-driven explorations of history and culture. He previously served 10 years in the U.S. Navy as an Aegis fire control technician and spent another decade as a Department of Defense engineer. His work focuses on understanding the deeper forces—historical, cultural, and spiritual—that shape the world around us. For more from Darryl, go here: Martyr Made Podcast Apple Podcasts Spotify X YouTube Provoked with Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper Official site Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 409 - (FIXED) Dying to the World in an Age of Distraction, with Fr. John Valadez
04/15/2026
Ep. 409 - (FIXED) Dying to the World in an Age of Distraction, with Fr. John Valadez
In this episode, I chat with Fr. John Valadez—Orthodox priest and the man behind Death to the World—to talk about what it actually means to die to the world in a culture that’s built to keep you comfortable, entertained, and constantly distracted. We get into why modern life makes it almost impossible to be still, why silence feels threatening to people, and how we’ve replaced transformation with validation without even realizing it. But the conversation really centers around what he’s building right now— A retreat center. A real place. On real land. Set apart. A place where you step out of the noise, put the phone down, and actually have to face yourself… and God. We talk about why that kind of place is necessary right now, what happens to a person when the distractions are stripped away, and why most people have never actually experienced silence long enough for anything real to happen. It’s about building something real in a world that isn’t. And what it actually costs to live a serious spiritual life. For more on Fr John, go here: And for Death to the World, go here: For more information on the retreat center, go here: And here: Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 408 - The Gut and the Soul: Health, Habit, and the Passions, with Dr. Mark Faries
04/07/2026
Ep. 408 - The Gut and the Soul: Health, Habit, and the Passions, with Dr. Mark Faries
In this episode, Buck sits down with Dr. Mark Faries, professor at Texas A&M and researcher in behavior change, to explore one of the most frustrating realities of modern life: Why do we know what’s healthy… and still fail to do it? Dr. Faries breaks down the science behind human behavior—why people change, why they don’t, and why most attempts at improving health fall apart over time. The conversation moves beyond surface-level advice and into the deeper issue of self-regulation failure—the internal battle between what we know and what we actually do. But this isn’t just a conversation about health science. Drawing from his own journey into Orthodoxy, Dr. Faries connects modern research with the wisdom of the Church Fathers, showing how ancient teachings on the passions—especially gluttony—line up strikingly well with what we now understand about behavior, habit formation, and even gut health. From more from Dr Mark, go here: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 407 - Beyond Feelings: Truth, Asceticism, and the Orthodox Path, with Fr. Justin Havens
03/31/2026
Ep. 407 - Beyond Feelings: Truth, Asceticism, and the Orthodox Path, with Fr. Justin Havens
What happens when faith is reduced to a feeling? In this episode, I sit down with Fr. Justin Havens, a missionary priest serving at St. Joseph the Hesychast Serbian Orthodox Church, to talk about one of the most important spiritual questions of our time: Is truth something you feel… or something you encounter? Drawing from years of missionary work in Utah—one of the most spiritually unique regions in America—we unpack the contrast between subjective religious experience and objective truth in Christ, and why so many people today are starving for something deeper. This is a conversation about: • the limits of emotional spirituality • the reality of the ascetical life • and why Orthodoxy is quietly exploding in places no one expected Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 406 - Heaven on Earth: The Divine Liturgy and the Book of Revelation, with Fr. John Whiteford
03/24/2026
Ep. 406 - Heaven on Earth: The Divine Liturgy and the Book of Revelation, with Fr. John Whiteford
In this episode, I’m joined by Fr. John Whiteford to explore one of the most misunderstood books in all of Scripture: the Book of Revelation. For many modern Christians, Revelation is treated as a roadmap of future geopolitical events—something to decode through headlines, wars, and speculation. But in the Orthodox Christian tradition, Revelation is something far deeper: a vision of heavenly worship. We begin by breaking down the true meaning of the Divine Liturgy—not as a symbolic gathering or a teaching session, but as real participation in the worship of heaven itself. From there, Fr. John explains how the imagery of Revelation—altars, incense, angels, hymns, and the Lamb—directly corresponds to what the Church has preserved in her liturgical life for centuries. This conversation reframes Revelation entirely: not as a prediction chart, but as an unveiling of the eternal reality that the Church enters into every time the Liturgy is celebrated. We also address how modern misreadings of Revelation—especially those rooted in recent theological innovations—have led many Christians to interpret global events, particularly in relation to Israel, through a distorted and often dangerous lens. Ultimately, this episode is about recovering a right understanding of worship, Scripture, and the Kingdom of God—and seeing the Divine Liturgy for what it truly is: heaven on earth. Fr. John Whiteford is an Orthodox priest serving in the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR). He is the rector of St. Jonah Orthodox Church in Spring, Texas, and has been a longtime teacher, writer, and defender of the Orthodox Christian faith. He is widely known for his work in apologetics, particularly in explaining Orthodox theology in contrast to modern Protestant innovations. Fr. John has written extensively on Scripture, Church history, and liturgical theology, and is especially respected for his clear, direct approach to difficult theological topics. Through his writing and teaching, he has helped many people rediscover the depth and continuity of the historic Christian tradition. Find more from Fr John here: And here: And here: Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 405 - The Narcissism Behind the Neurodivergence Boom, with Dr. Hannah Spier
03/17/2026
Ep. 405 - The Narcissism Behind the Neurodivergence Boom, with Dr. Hannah Spier
In recent years the language of autism and ADHD has moved from clinical psychology into mainstream culture. What was once a narrow medical diagnosis has expanded into a broad identity category embraced by millions online. But what explains this sudden rise? In this episode of Counterflow, Buck Johnson is joined by psychiatrist and writer Dr. Hannah Spier to explore the cultural, psychological, and social forces behind the modern “neurodivergence” movement. Drawing from her widely discussed essays on autism, identity, and modern narcissism, Dr. Spier argues that the explosion of neurodivergent identity may say as much about modern culture as it does about mental health. Together they discuss the expansion of autism diagnoses, the rise of self-diagnosis through social media, and the growing tendency to frame personality traits and social difficulties through psychological labels. The conversation also explores how modern identity culture, social media validation, and new expressions of covert narcissism may be contributing to the neurodivergence boom. Finally, Buck and Dr. Spier examine a deeper question: what happens to a culture when mental illness becomes identity? For Dr Hannah’s Substack, go here: r Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 404 - Christian Zionism: Political Ideology Disguised as Biblical Faith, with Michael Davis
03/10/2026
Ep. 404 - Christian Zionism: Political Ideology Disguised as Biblical Faith, with Michael Davis
In this episode, Buck Johnson sits down with author Michael W. Davis, general editor of the Union of Orthodox Journalists, for a serious discussion about Christian Zionism, theology, and geopolitics. Over the last century, Christian Zionism has become an influential framework shaping how many Christians understand the modern state of Israel, biblical prophecy, and the politics of the Middle East. But how does this theology compare with the faith of the early Church and the witness of the Church Fathers? Drawing on Scripture, Church history, and Orthodox theology, Buck and Michael explore the origins of Christian Zionism, its relationship to modern political movements, and the ways in which eschatology can shape political imagination. They also discuss how prophetic language surrounding modern conflicts — including tensions involving Israel and Iran — can influence how Christians interpret war, peace, and the responsibilities of the Church in a fractured world. Rather than approaching these issues through ideology or partisanship, this conversation seeks to recover the historic Christian vision of the Kingdom of God, which transcends nationalism, geopolitics, and modern political categories. For more from Michael Davis, go here: ...and here: Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 403 - From Hip Hop to Holy Tradition, with J-Ro from Tha Alkaholiks
03/05/2026
Ep. 403 - From Hip Hop to Holy Tradition, with J-Ro from Tha Alkaholiks
What happens when a man who built his identity in hip hop walks away from the illusion of the industry and into the ancient Church? James “J-Ro” Robinson rose to prominence in the golden era of West Coast hip hop as a member of Tha Alkaholiks, part of Los Angeles’ influential underground scene. Fame, touring, culture, and credibility were all there. But behind the curtain, things weren’t what they seemed. In this conversation, J-Ro opens up about: • His childhood and the spiritual influence of his great-grandfather, a Christian minister • The formation of Tha Alkaholiks and life inside 90s hip hop culture • What he learned about the record industry that led to deep disillusionment • Why he eventually moved to Sweden • The tension between persona and personhood • Fatherhood and the call to something more rooted • Discovering the Orthodox Church • Life today in Tucson, Arizona, attending St. Anthony’s Monastery • Asceticism, repentance, and redefining masculinity • What “keeping it real” actually means Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 402 - Orthodoxy and the Modern Markets, with Fr. Emmanuel Lemelson
02/25/2026
Ep. 402 - Orthodoxy and the Modern Markets, with Fr. Emmanuel Lemelson
What do silver crashes, sovereign power, Vatican banking scandals, and free cash flow have in common? In this conversation, Fr. Emmanuel Lemelson joins us to explore the moral psychology of markets and the spiritual dangers of fear-driven investing. From the 2026 silver collapse and what he calls the "Imperial Margin Call," to the collapse of the safe-haven narrative, to the deeper arithmetic behind margin-of-safety investing, this episode moves beyond headlines into first principles. This is not merely a conversation about investing; it's about anthropology, empire, illusion, and sobriety. It's about whether modern markets form disciplined stewards or anxious speculators. For more from Fr Emmanuel Lemelson, go here: Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 401 - Orthodoxy and the Medicine of the Future, with Dr. Michael Christian Kuhn
02/18/2026
Ep. 401 - Orthodoxy and the Medicine of the Future, with Dr. Michael Christian Kuhn
What if the future of medicine looks less like a laboratory… and more like the life of the Church? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Michael Christian Kuhn, author of Orthodoxy and the Medicine of the Future, to explore the deep connection between spiritual life and physical health. We discuss how modern society has become increasingly disembodied — separated from rhythm, stillness, fasting, and community — and how many of today’s chronic health struggles may reflect that deeper fragmentation. This conversation is not about rejecting modern medicine. It’s about recovering wholeness. If you’re Orthodox — or simply curious about how faith shapes health — this episode will help you think more clearly about the unity of body and soul. For more from Dr Mike, go here: Sponsors: Perfect Spiral Capital: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 400 - A Harder Kind of Beauty: Faith, Art, & Refusing the Easy Life, with Kate DeGraide
02/11/2026
Ep. 400 - A Harder Kind of Beauty: Faith, Art, & Refusing the Easy Life, with Kate DeGraide
In this conversation, Kate DeGraide reflects on faith that rearranges a life rather than decorating it. We talk about making art without losing your soul, creating music with her husband, Neil, in Dirt Poor Robbins, raising children without turning belief into performance, and what it means to live in the world without being absorbed by it. This is a conversation about beauty and art that demands something of us—about choosing a whole life over an easy one, and learning to remain human in the process. We also discuss challenges for women coming into the Orthodox Church, Covid years, Kate's worship music background, and more. Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 399 - Child Trafficking & the Orthodox War for the Innocent, with Tommy Green
02/04/2026
Ep. 399 - Child Trafficking & the Orthodox War for the Innocent, with Tommy Green
What does it mean to confront real evil without letting it destroy your soul? In this episode, I'm joined by Tommy Green, vocalist of the band Holy Name and an Orthodox Christian deeply committed to ending child and sex trafficking. Tommy and his wife have an organization that helps young people getting out of this terrible life of being trafficked. We talk about what it's like to look directly at the darkest expressions of human sin, and how the Orthodox Church, prayer, and the Holy Name of Christ provide a framework for fighting evil without becoming it. Tommy's organization: Sponsors: Harmony Icons: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 398 - Danzig, Darkness, and the Search for God, with Josh Lazie
01/28/2026
Ep. 398 - Danzig, Darkness, and the Search for God, with Josh Lazie
In this episode, I talk with Josh Lazie, a former bassist for Danzig, to talk about a reality many of us live with but rarely name: the persistent sense that something is missing. For years, he tried to fill that void with music, drugs, success, and the constant noise of the rock-and-roll lifestyle. For a time, those things worked. Eventually, they didn't. We talk honestly about what that world gave him, what it cost him, and the moment he realized that nothing he was chasing would ever make him whole. We explore the restlessness beneath addiction and ambition, the fear of stillness, and why silence can be more confronting than chaos. Now a catechumen in the Orthodox Church, he reflects on how faith didn’t simply distract him from emptiness, but began to heal it—through discipline, repentance, and a reorientation of what it means to live fully. Sponsors: Harmony Icons: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 397 - Brotherhood, Temptation, and the Cost of Isolation, with Fr Hans Jacobse
01/21/2026
Ep. 397 - Brotherhood, Temptation, and the Cost of Isolation, with Fr Hans Jacobse
In this episode, we sit down with Father Hans Jacobse to discuss the crisis facing men today, and why isolation, secrecy, and private struggle are not compatible with the Orthodox life. Fr Hans started the St Paisios Brotherhood where men have been able to have a safe brotherhood for many years now. We explore the role of brotherhood in confronting temptation, forming men for marriage and family, and grounding masculine identity in the life of the Church. This conversation addresses pornography, marriage, community, and the unique role Orthodox brotherhood plays in forming whole men capable of serving their families, parishes, and the world. For more on this, go here: Sponsors: Harmony Icons: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 396 - Powers & Principalities: The Unseen War Against the Church, with Fr Turbo
01/14/2026
Ep. 396 - Powers & Principalities: The Unseen War Against the Church, with Fr Turbo
In this episode, Buck sits down with Father Turbo Qualls for a wide-ranging and sobering conversation about spiritual warfare, ecumenism, and the modern pressure on the Orthodox to trade truth for comfort. Beginning with reflections from St. Mary of Egypt and the Synaxis of Hagia Sophia, the discussion moves into how external forces — political, cultural, and spiritual — have repeatedly targeted the Church, often in ways that are subtle, coordinated, and unseen. Father Turbo revisits a past conversation with Buck about the COVID era, exploring how major disruptions in Church life coincided with key feasts, fasts, and liturgical moments — not as a matter of human conspiracy, but as part of a deeper "powers and principalities" reality that operates beyond individual actors. For more from Fr Turbo and to see his hand-painted icons, go here: https://www.desertwisdombookstore.com/shop ...and his parish : https://stmaryofegypt.net ...and here: Sponsors: Fox n Sons Coffee: Code: BUCK15 Harmony Icons: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 395 - January 6th: Power, Lies, and the Cost of Truth, with Stewart Rhodes
01/07/2026
Ep. 395 - January 6th: Power, Lies, and the Cost of Truth, with Stewart Rhodes
In this interview, we speak with Oath Keepers founder and firsthand participant in the January 6 events, Stewart Rhodes, to explore what actually happened that day, from early morning intentions to the chaos that unfolded, the legal aftermath, and the long-term personal consequences. We examine the gap between mainstream media narratives and lived experience, discuss federal involvement, accountability, and political responsibility, and reflect on the mental, spiritual, and moral toll of becoming a symbol in one of the most polarizing events in modern American history. For more information on Stewart, go here: ...and here: Sponsors: Perfect Spiral Capital: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 394 - Will the Catholic Church Reunite with the Orthodox Church? with Fr Emmanuel Lemelson
12/31/2025
Ep. 394 - Will the Catholic Church Reunite with the Orthodox Church? with Fr Emmanuel Lemelson
In this episode, Buck sits down with Fr. Emmanuel Lemelson to discuss a recent event widely framed as a historic step toward Christian unity, and why, from an Orthodox perspective, it feels anything but unifying. Drawing from firsthand experience and deep ecclesial memory, the conversation explores why language of "unity" often masks unresolved (and unresolvable) theological differences between Rome and Orthodoxy. Together, they speak candidly about papal authority, conciliarity, modern ecumenism, and why converts are often the first to feel the spiritual consequences of institutional ambiguity. This is not a polemic but a sober conversation about truth, faithfulness, and what Orthodoxy cannot surrender without ceasing to be itself. For more from Fr Emmanuel, check these links: YouTube channel: Substack: Connect with @Lemelson on social media: Sponsors: Fox n Sons Coffee: Code: BUCK15 Perfect Spiral Capital: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 393 - The Orthodox Family Life, with Christina Taylor
12/24/2025
Ep. 393 - The Orthodox Family Life, with Christina Taylor
In this episode, we’re joined by Christina Taylor, founder of Orthodox Family Life, for a wide-ranging and honest conversation about marriage, parenting, education, and faithfulness in a desensitized modern world. Christina shares her personal journey into Orthodoxy, how her understanding of family life has deepened over time, and the unique pressures Orthodox parents face today—especially converts raising children without the support of extended Orthodox communities. We explore the tension between overprotective parenting and permissiveness, the roles of men and women within marriage, the lingering effects of feminism inside and outside the Church, and the challenges of raising children faithfully amid cultural chaos. This episode is especially for parents (and future parents) asking not just what to teach their children but who they are becoming. For more from Christina, go here : Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: For the official CounterFlow T-shirt, send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address, or order online: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 392 - What is Knowledge, and How Do We Actually Know the Truth?
12/17/2025
Ep. 392 - What is Knowledge, and How Do We Actually Know the Truth?
In this episode, I speak with Fr. Deacon Ananias about Orthodox epistemology and the claim that true knowledge is not grounded in autonomous reason but in God's self-revelation. Contrasting Athens and Jerusalem, this conversation explores why Orthodoxy understands truth not as an idea, but as a Person: Jesus Christ. We discuss revelation as theophany, the limits of philosophy, the apophatic tradition, and how knowledge in the Church is personal, communal, and transformative, not merely intellectual. Topics include: - East vs. West on knowledge and reason - Revelation as encounter, not information - Apophatic knowing and humility - Philosophy: rejected, redeemed, or baptized? - Why truth is known in communion For more from Fr Deacon Ananias, go here: ...and here: Sponsors: Fox n Sons Coffee: Code: BUCK15 Perfect Spiral Capital: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 391 - From Protestant Pastor to Orthodox Christian, with Ben from Cleave to Antiquity
12/10/2025
Ep. 391 - From Protestant Pastor to Orthodox Christian, with Ben from Cleave to Antiquity
My guest this week is Ben, host of Cleave to Antiquity. Formerly an associate pastor in a Protestant Evangelical church and active in online Protestant apologetics, Ben began to realize that many of the arguments he made against Orthodox theology and dogma didn't hold up. That realization forced him to confront some difficult truths and make major changes in his life. Today, Ben is a catechumen in the Orthodox Church. We talk about his journey, what led him to re-examine his assumptions, and the lessons he has learned along the way. Sponsor: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 390 - The Antichrist is a Nice Guy, with Fr Zechariah Lynch
12/03/2025
Ep. 390 - The Antichrist is a Nice Guy, with Fr Zechariah Lynch
In this episode, we dig into the idea that the Antichrist might not show up as some dark, terrifying figure, but instead as a really nice guy. The article we're discussing suggests he'll look peaceful, tolerant, reasonable, and even compassionate. In other words, the kind of leader most people would cheer for. We talk about why that kind of "niceness" can actually be the most dangerous form of deception. Modern culture often tells us that being a good person just means being kind, promoting unity, and making life comfortable, but the article points out that goodness without God slowly pushes real spiritual life out of the picture. We get into how our culture's obsession with progress, peace, and material well-being makes it easy to confuse charm with truth. We also look at what the Church Fathers say about the Antichrist's personality: that he'll win people over with flattery and a gentle demeanor before revealing what he's really after. In short, this is a conversation about discernment: how to recognize the difference between true goodness and a polished counterfeit, especially in a world that loves a friendly face. For the article , go here: Sponsors: Fox n Sons Coffee: Code: BUCK15 Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 389 - The Spiritual Formation of Men & Women, with Metropolitan Jonah
11/19/2025
Ep. 389 - The Spiritual Formation of Men & Women, with Metropolitan Jonah
In this deeply pastoral and wide-ranging conversation, Buck chats with Metropolitan Jonah to discuss the surge of interest in Orthodox Christianity, the spiritual formation of newcomers, and the timeless wisdom the Church offers to a restless modern world. From the inner life of the believer to practical struggles facing parishes today, this episode provides both clarity and compassion for anyone seeking to understand Orthodoxy more deeply — or walk it more faithfully. Sponsors: Perfect Spiral Capital: Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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Ep. 388 - Christ as Truth and Truth as Christ, with Protodeacon Patrick Mitchell
11/12/2025
Ep. 388 - Christ as Truth and Truth as Christ, with Protodeacon Patrick Mitchell
Protodeacon Patrick Mitchell returns to the show to discuss his new book, Christ as Truth and Truth as Christ. In this conversation, we explore what it truly means that Christ is Truth—not as a concept, not as a feeling, but as a living Person. Protodeacon Patrick helps us unpack the difference between objective truth and the modern world's obsession with "personal truth," showing how our understanding of Truth shapes everything from our love for others to our view of the world. We then examine the five great enemies of Truth: Gnosticism, Romanticism, Anarchism, Nihilism, and Tribalism, each of which distorts the human mind and heart in its own way. Along the way, we discuss the God of Israel and the temptation to make the self the measure of all things. This is a deep-dive into how Truth, rightly understood, leads us not into ideology or isolation, but into the life of Christ Himself. Sponsors: Fox n Sons Coffee: Code: BUCK15 Podsworth App: Code: BUCK50 for HALF off your first order! Clean up your recordings, sound like a pro, and support the Counterflow Podcast! Full Ad Read BEFORE processing: Full Ad Read AFTER processing: Get the new Counterflow T-shirt before it sells out! Visit or send $30 via PayPal to buck@counterflowpodcast.com with your size and shipping address! Donate to the show here: Visit my website: Audio Production by Podsworth Media: Leave us a review and rating on Apple Podcasts! Thanks!
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