The Very Dental Podcast Network

The Very Dental Podcast network brings you entertaining and relevant conversations with visionaries, clinicians and your friends in the dental space.

Very Clinical: Dr. Allie Frounfelter is the Queen of Trial Smiles 09/02/2025

Very Clinical: Dr. Allie Frounfelter is the Queen of Trial Smiles Zach and Kevin welcome Dr. Allie Frounfelter to discuss her innovative approach to cosmetic dentistry using Trial Smiles. Dr. Frounfelter shares her journey from a high-volume "bread and butter" dental practice to a more balanced and fulfilling one, emphasizing the importance of slowing down to speed up. The episode details the step-by-step process of creating and using a 3D-printed resin shell, or Trial Smile, to help patients visualize their potential new smile. Dr. Frounfelter also highlights the importance of incorporating the entire dental team in the process and discusses how this patient-centered approach, along with the right technology and systems, has transformed her practice. Key Takeaways Invest in Digital Technology: Dr. Frounfelter and her husband significantly transformed their practice by investing in digital tools, including a CBCT, intraoral scanner, and 3D printer. They initially sought a CBCT but came back from a conference with a full suite of digital tools. The Trial Smile Process: A Trial Smile is a thin, 3D-printed resin shell that fits over a patient's natural teeth, allowing them to try on a new smile. This is a crucial step in cosmetic dentistry consultations as it offers a tangible "try before you buy" experience. Difference from Traditional Wax-ups: Unlike a traditional bis-acryl wax-up, a Trial Smile is easily placed and removed, making it repeatable and mess-free. This allows patients to get a clear and instant before-and-after comparison. Team Involvement is Crucial: Allie stresses the importance of training and involving the entire team in the new workflow. Her clinical director, Brandon, handles the initial patient conversation, photos, and records, while a dental assistant, Emma, designs the smiles using specialized software like Exocad. Slowing Down to Speed Up: By implementing new systems and focusing on comprehensive cases, Allie and Adam were able to move away from a high-volume model that led to burnout. They now see fewer patients but generate more revenue from cosmetic and full-mouth cases. Outsourcing Options: If a practice lacks the necessary design software or a 3D printer, they can partner with a dental lab like Roe Dental Lab, which offers a cosmetic design service to create and even print the Trial Smile for them. Some links from the show: : For dentists looking to outsource the design and printing of Trial Smiles. : To learn more about Dr. Frounfelter's Trial Smile class and other dental continuing education courses. : A great resource to see examples of her dentistry and patient reactions to their Trial Smiles. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37976975

AME: Sealants, Schmealants 09/01/2025

AME: Sealants, Schmealants Alan argues that dental sealants should be treated more like restorations rather than simple preventive measures. He critiques the common practice of placing sealants without preparing the tooth, which he believes can lead to failure and hidden decay. Instead, he details his own protocol, which involves using a bur to open up and clean out the deep grooves of the tooth, often discovering stain, decalcification or even decay. He then fills these prepped grooves with a glass ionomer material. Alan asserts that this more involved approach results in a highly durable, decay-resistant solution that he feels far more confident in than traditional sealants. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37979125

Very Dental: Adam on AI with Adam McWethy 08/29/2025

Very Dental: Adam on AI with Adam McWethy Alan welcomes his friend Adam McWethy back to the Very Dental podcast! Recorded in person at the 2025 Voices of Dentistry pop up event in Arizona, Adam drops in to talk about his new company, The Leadership Thread. The Leadership Thread works with specialist practices to achieve growth and life balance by taking control of their careers. Adam and Al explored how AI is poised to change the way dentists handle a variety of tasks, from documenting treatment to managing patient relationships. Adam discussed several ways that AI can dramatically reduce the time specialists spend writing referral letters and charting. He mentioned a new AI-powered platform that automates these tasks, giving providers hours of their week back. Alan discussed his experience that even with minimal training, AI can generate detailed, persuasive narratives to help justify treatment to insurance companies, a common pain point for general dentists. The conversation highlighted that AI in dentistry is quickly moving from a novel concept to a standard tool. Just as features like anti-lock brakes were once a luxury add-on in cars and are now standard, AI-driven solutions are becoming a core part of dental practice management, improving efficiency and communication across all dental specialties. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37977180

Very Clinical: Invisalign Hype vs. Reality with Dr. Craig Harder 08/26/2025

Very Clinical: Invisalign Hype vs. Reality with Dr. Craig Harder In this "throwback" episode recorded live at Voices of Dentistry 2023, hosts Kevin and Zach are joined by guest Dr. Craig Harder to debate and discuss dental myths and tips. The main topic of conversation is the dental myth that Invisalign is a great value for dentists. Craig argues that Invisalign is not a good value because it eats up a significant portion of the fee, especially for dentists who don't do a high volume of cases and therefore don't qualify for discounts. Kevin, a high-volume provider, counters that the value of Invisalign is not just in the cost per case but in its powerful marketing engine. He explains that Invisalign's massive ad campaigns drive patients directly to dentists' offices, a level of promotion that individual practices could never achieve. The conversation also touches on the user experience of other clear aligner companies versus Invisalign, with Kevin stating he finds the Invisalign user interface to be far superior. Craig's tip: Always use after aligner therapy! Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37952465

AME: Some of My Favorite Words 08/25/2025

AME: Some of My Favorite Words Alan shares his favorite verbal phrases that have improved his patient interactions over his 28-year career. He emphasizes the importance of building rapport and setting patient expectations to create a smoother, more enjoyable practice. Alan discusses how these simple word choices help him diagnose problems, manage treatment compromises, and handle post-op concerns, all while fostering trust and a human connection with his patients. Some of Al's Favorite Words: "Can you say more about that?" This phrase encourages patients to elaborate on their symptoms, often unlocking a more accurate diagnosis. It prompts them to think more deeply about their sensations, which is especially useful when a problem isn't visually apparent. "Are you going to be mad at me if...?" Used when a patient is considering a compromised or less-than-ideal treatment, this phrase invites them to contemplate a potential negative outcome. It shifts the responsibility for informed consent from a formal, authoritative one to a human, conversational one. "Julie is going to explain this to you in English." Dr. Mead uses this line when handing off a patient to a dental assistant or hygienist. It humorously acknowledges that dentists often use technical jargon and signals to the patient that a clearer, more accessible explanation is coming from the other team member. "We're here if you need us." This phrase is used for patients who have perfect checkups or don't require extensive treatment. It reassures them that they are still valued and that the practice is available for any future concerns, fostering a sense of long-term care and trust. "This is going to be sensitive for a couple days." When delivering a new crown or performing other procedures, setting the expectation of post-operative discomfort helps patients mentally prepare. It reduces the number of post-op calls and gives patients "grace" to experience normal sensitivity without alarm. "Are you okay if we wait to see what happens?" Used after cementing a crown while a patient is still numb, this asks for their consent to check the bite again once the anesthesia has worn off. It acknowledges that they can't accurately feel the bite while numb and gives them control over their final comfort. "You're going to be numb for a couple of hours." Dr. Mead uses this to manage a patient's expectations about how long the numbness will last. By saying "a couple of hours," he gives them a realistic timeframe, and if it lasts longer, they are less likely to be surprised or concerned. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37939020

Brain Trust: Nothing Wrong with "Dental School Dentistry" 08/22/2025

Brain Trust: Nothing Wrong with "Dental School Dentistry" Dr. Russell Schafer, Dr. Randy Houska, and Dr. Brian McGue join Alan for a pre-conference discussion at the Voices of Dentistry Lite event in Arizona. They explore the different options for dentists to expand their practices. Brian, a general dentist who also does (and teaches) sedation, believes that sedation is the best for return on investment, but implants are essential because of the learning curve and the way they expand a dentist's mindset. Randy, who added implants to his practice 25 years in, agrees and says he wished he had added them sooner. Russell explains that his patient base limits the amount of implants he can place and that doing general dentistry like fillings and crowns is still a very profitable business. The episode ends with the dentists discussing the value of taking online CE courses and starting with simple procedures before committing to expensive education or equipment. Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37875900

Very Clinical: Practice or Business? 08/19/2025

Very Clinical: Practice or Business? Kevin and Zach welcome Alan back to discuss the world of business and entrepreneurship within dentistry. They begin by reminiscing about their childhood "businesses," which leads to a discussion sparked by a conversation Alan had with dental entrepreneur Dr. Mark Costes. The group explores the idea that while dentists of their generation could often succeed with a simple practice, the current landscape of high student debt and large dental organizations demands a more business-minded approach. They debate whether an entrepreneurial spirit is something you're born with or can be developed, and they consider the differences between simply owning a practice, running a dental business, and being a true entrepreneur. The conversation highlights the wide spectrum of career paths available in dentistry today, from being a salaried associate to building a multi-office empire. In this episode of the podcast, hosts Kevin and Zach, along with guest Alan, dive into the world of business and entrepreneurship within dentistry. They begin by reminiscing about their childhood "businesses," which leads to a discussion sparked by a conversation Alan had with dental entrepreneur Mark Costas. The group explores the idea that while dentists of their generation could often succeed with a simple practice, the current landscape of high student debt and large dental organizations demands a more business-minded approach. They debate whether an entrepreneurial spirit is something you're born with or can be developed, and they consider the differences between simply owning a practice, running a dental business, and being a true entrepreneur. The conversation highlights the wide spectrum of career paths available in dentistry today, from being a salaried associate to building a multi-office empire. Key Takeaways Entrepreneurship is a Spectrum: Owning a dental office doesn't automatically make you an entrepreneur. The podcast outlines a spectrum from simply owning a job (a practice that only runs with you there) to having a true business that can function independently, to being a full-on entrepreneur who innovates and scales. The Changing Landscape of Dentistry: The hosts acknowledge that their generation of dentists came into the profession during a "golden age" with less debt and more opportunities for practice ownership. Today, with higher student loans and the rise of Dental Service Organizations (DSOs), younger dentists often need to be more business-savvy to succeed as owners. Technology and Business: The discussion touches on how technology, like digital dentistry and clear aligners, can be a business decision to add new services and level up a practice. This is presented as a way to evolve from a "drill, fill, bill" mindset into a more diverse and profitable business model. Dentistry as a Vehicle: The podcast concludes that dentistry can be a great field for entrepreneurs because it provides a high income that can be used to fund other business ventures, whether within dentistry (like teaching or consulting) or in completely different industries. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37864120

AME: Another Recommendation Engine 08/18/2025

AME: Another Recommendation Engine Al shares another "recommendation engine" in this episode! He starts with a dental recommendation, praising the Bioclear Evolve Matrix system and explaining why he's going back to get recertified. He then moves to personal interests, recommending the Harry Potter audiobooks narrated by Stephen Fry and the Hot Ones Instagram feed. He also suggests trying Fly By Jing's Sweet & Spicy Sichuan Chili Sauce and the sci-fi audiobook Automatic Noodle. Finally, he gushes about his new Stihl RZ 560 K lawnmower and encourages listeners to join the Very Dental Facebook group to share their own recommendations. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37855415

Very Dental: How to Not Have a Heart Attack with Dr. David Clark 08/15/2025

Very Dental: How to Not Have a Heart Attack with Dr. David Clark Alan interviews Dr. David Clark about a near-fatal heart attack he suffered almost two years ago. Dave describes the dramatic details of the event, from initially mistaking his symptoms for heartburn to his wife heroically rushing him to the emergency room. The episode delves into the importance of being your own health advocate, particularly for dentists and other seemingly healthy individuals who may be at risk without knowing it. Dave emphasizes that a heart attack is one of the few life-threatening events that can be largely preventable if people are armed with the right knowledge. He shares key tests and prevention strategies he learned from his brother, a metabolic cardiologist, and warns against common misconceptions and tests that offer a false sense of security. The conversation highlights the emotional and physical toll the event took on him and his family, ultimately leading him to a renewed perspective on life and his dental career. Key takeaways: Dr. Clark discussed several key prevention ideas and tests that he believes are crucial for all listeners to consider, especially those who appear healthy but may have underlying risks. Be Your Own Health Advocate: Don't blindly trust a single doctor's diagnosis, especially if your symptoms don't align with what they say. Dr. Clark's initial symptoms were dismissed as heartburn by his concierge cardiologist, a diagnosis that could have been fatal. The Troponin Blood Test: If you suspect you've had a cardiac event, no matter how minor, go to the emergency room and specifically ask for a blood test for troponin. Troponin is a protein released when heart muscle is damaged, and it can be detected in your bloodstream for up to 48 hours after an event. A positive result would have led to an immediate diagnosis and intervention for Dr. Clark, preventing the heart attack and damage. Get a CAC (Coronary Artery Calcium) Score: This is a key test for "the healthy guy heart attack." A high CAC score indicates a genetic predisposition to having calcified plaque in your arteries. While a stress test only provides short-term security, a high CAC score is a significant warning sign that a rupture in the plaque could lead to a sudden, fatal heart attack. Be Cautious of Misleading Tests: Dr. Clark and his brother identified several tests that can give a false sense of security or are simply not effective in predicting a heart attack, including the standard stress test and most whole-body scans. Consider a GLP-1 Medication: Based on his brother's recommendation, Dr. Clark started taking a GLP-1 medication (like Ozempic or Wegovy) to reduce inflammation, which is a known contributor to cardiovascular problems. He notes that these medications are not just for weight loss but have significant, positive metabolic effects. Some links from the show: ..PLEASE OPEN THIS LINK! Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37795495

Very Clinical: The Healthy Patient Paradox 08/12/2025

Very Clinical: The Healthy Patient Paradox Zach and Kevin are joined Alan to have an in-depth discussion on the business of dentistry. They explore the surprising contradiction many dentists face: the challenge of maintaining a profitable practice while also promoting preventive care and serving "healthy" patients who need minimal treatment. They discuss how a shift in the dental landscape, including stagnant insurance reimbursements and rising overhead costs, has made it less viable for some practices to rely heavily on a traditional recall model. The conversation touches on how different dental practice models, such as DSOs, may approach this issue and suggests that offering a wider range of services, like clear aligners, can help make healthy patients a more valuable part of a practice. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37752745

AME: Digital Design for Dummies 08/11/2025

AME: Digital Design for Dummies Alan shares his journey into the world of digital dentistry and digital design. He reflects on his past hesitations and the challenges of committing to expensive software like Exocad. A recent case involving a patient in need of a provisional partial, however, sparked his interest in finding a more accessible entry point. He recounts how his friend, Dr. Russell Schafer, introduced him to , a powerful, free design software. BSP, , offers an excellent way for dentists to "dip their toe" into digital design without a huge financial or time commitment. He encourages listeners to check out the case Russell worked up for him, which is available in the show notes, and to consider the course as a practical way to learn the fundamentals of digital design. Some links from the show: (Maximizing BlueSkyPlan for Your Office) (shares Al's building) Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37750715

Very Dental: The Dentist's Dilemma: Doctor or Entrepreneur? with Dr. Mark Costes 08/08/2025

Very Dental: The Dentist's Dilemma: Doctor or Entrepreneur? with Dr. Mark Costes Is the entrepreneurial drive something you're born with, or can it be learned? Alan had the chance to sit down with his friend and colleague, Dr. Mark Costes, at the recent Voices of Dentistry Pop Up for a deep dive into the mindset of a business owner. Drawing from his own family history, Dr. Costes argues that an entrepreneurial spirit is often an innate trait (nature), but that the skills to succeed can absolutely be cultivated (nurture). They explore the massive shift in the dental profession from the "golden era"—when clinical skill alone could guarantee a great living—to today's reality, where staggering student debt loads make business acumen a non-negotiable key to survival and success. The conversation also contrasts the cottage industry of dentistry with the consolidated world of medicine, weighing the pros and cons of being a W2 employee versus taking on the risks and rewards of practice ownership. Key Takeaways Entrepreneurs: Nature or Nurture? Mark believes that while an entrepreneurial spirit might be an innate personality trait, the systems and knowledge required for business success can be learned and mastered by anyone. His father, a corporate man, had the spirit but chose security; Mark was able to live out that entrepreneurial drive. The "Golden Era" of Dentistry is Over: Dentists from previous generations could often succeed despite lacking business knowledge because the revenue from clinical dentistry was high enough to hide inefficiencies. The Stakes Are Higher Now: With average student debt approaching $300,000, new dentists cannot afford to be sloppy with the business side of their practice. Every penny must be accounted for, making business education more critical than ever. The W2 Path is a Viable Option: For dentists who are not interested in the risks and stress of ownership, being a W2 employee can still lead to a successful career and financial freedom. However, it requires a different kind of discipline focused on personal finance, smart investing, and tax strategy to build wealth without the final asset of a practice sale. If You Own, Do It Right: For those who do take the leap into practice ownership, it is crucial to commit to learning the business. Otherwise, you are taking on all the risk, liability, and stress for potentially no significant reward. The Problem with Medicine (and a Blessing for Dentistry): While medicine offers high-income W2 opportunities, it is a highly consolidated system that often leaves physicians with little control and massive tax burdens. Dentistry remains a "cottage industry" with immense entrepreneurial opportunity, despite its own challenges with insurance and patient payment discussions. Information vs. Willpower: Whether discussing personal health or business success, simply having the information is not enough. The key challenge is developing the discipline and willpower to act on that knowledge, a hurdle that many people struggle to overcome. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37703150

Very Clinical: A Tip or Two with Dr. McGue 08/05/2025

Very Clinical: A Tip or Two with Dr. McGue In this throwback episode from Voices of Dentistry 2023 in Scottsdale, Zach and Kevin are joined by guest Dr. Brian McGue for the inaugural "Myths and Tips" episode. Dr. McGue, the inspiration for this format, kicks things off by myth-busting the posterior palatal seal, questioning its origin and clinical necessity for upper dentures. For his pro tip, he shares a game-changing technique for seating crowns—especially implant crowns—by recontouring the adjacent tooth contacts to eliminate undercuts and achieve a perfect, passive fit. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37672450

AME: Matt's Marketing Minute(s) 08/04/2025

AME: Matt's Marketing Minute(s) Recorded live at our recent pop up VoD 2025, Alan is joined by the one and only Dr. Matt Standridge! Matt shares two innovative marketing strategies he uses in his practice. First, he details his process for creating personalized virtual case presentations using Google Slides. He records custom videos for potential patients, walking them through their specific case, treatment options, and fees before they even come into the office, which has led to significantly higher case acceptance rates. Second, he explains how he collaborates with patients who are professional photographers. After a patient completes a smile makeover, he gifts them a professional headshot session with one of these patient-photographers, creating a win-win-win scenario: the patient feels great, the photographer gets business, and Dr. Standridge receives high-quality "after" photos for his marketing. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37653835

Very Dental: Have We Reached Peak Dental Podcasting with Dr. Mark Costes 08/01/2025

Very Dental: Have We Reached Peak Dental Podcasting with Dr. Mark Costes In this throwback episode Alan is joined by his good friend and co-founder of Voices of Dentistry, Dr. Mark Costes. They catch up after the VOD 2022 event, sharing personal stories about their kids, past injuries, and the humbling (and sometimes embarrassing) experience of getting older. The conversation wraps up with a behind-the-scenes look at the world of dental podcasting, discussing everything from download stats and interview strategies to their most memorable guests. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37521250

Very Clinical: The Ortho Champion with Maryann McFarland 07/29/2025

Very Clinical: The Ortho Champion with Maryann McFarland Kevin and Zach are joined by star hygienist Maryann McFarland. They kick things off with a competitive discussion about their favorite games, from Maryann's professional-level Scrabble skills to Zach's past as a ranked online poker player. The conversation then shifts to the clinical topic of the day: how Maryann champions the Invisalign workflow in the practice. She provides a masterclass on her process, detailing every step from initial patient contact and leveraging in-office marketing to using photos on a big-screen monitor, discussing financials, and performing the digital scan—all while emphasizing the crucial role of teamwork and efficiency. Key Takeaways: Empower the Hygiene Team: A trained and motivated hygienist can be the primary driver for Invisalign cases, from the initial conversation to the digital scan, freeing up the doctor's time and boosting production. A System Creates Efficiency: The practice utilizes a highly systematic, team-based approach. While one person engages the patient, others prepare financial plans or manages imaging in the background, eliminating bottlenecks and making the process fit within a standard appointment. Visuals Drive Acceptance: Using large, high-quality photos on a monitor is a powerful tool. Showing patients their own crowding, wear, or abfractions and then asking, "Are you happy with your smile?" is more effective than just describing the problem. Make it Easy to Say Yes: Streamline the financial conversation by having payment options prepared in advance. Presenting clear solutions immediately after the patient expresses interest removes a major barrier to starting treatment. Create Urgency (and Follow Up): Offering to scan an interested patient on the spot capitalizes on their motivation. For those who need to think about it, sending them home with a signed financial plan and following up creates a clear path to starting their case. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37518660

AME: Unconscious 07/28/2025

AME: Unconscious Alan uses his familiar daily commute as an analogy for the routine procedures in dentistry that become second nature. He reflects on how tasks that are "unconscious" and automatic for a seasoned dentist, such as a tooth extraction, are a highly conscious and often frightening experience for a patient. Drawing on a recent interaction with an anxious patient, Al emphasizes the importance of stepping out of this professional autopilot to consciously provide more empathy and care. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37568500

Very Dental: Frankly, Dental School Sucked 07/25/2025

Very Dental: Frankly, Dental School Sucked This throwback episode features Alan and his longtime friend and fellow Dentaltown veteran, Dr. Frank Clayton, for a hilarious and nostalgic conversation. They reminisce about the early days of online forums, the inception of the podcast idea, and Frank’s surprising pre-dental career selling Velveeta cheese. The discussion quickly turns to the shared trauma of hating dental school and the daily, relatable frustrations of clinical practice—from the high-stakes timing of cement cleanup and the dread of a phone call from the lab to the eternal struggle for the perfect contact. It's a candid, funny, and deeply relatable chat between two old friends who aren't afraid to admit they don't have all the answers. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37517790

Very Clinical: More Than a Cleaning with Maryann McFarland 07/22/2025

Very Clinical: More Than a Cleaning with Maryann McFarland In this episode, Kevin and Zach return from a hiatus and catch up on their summer adventures before introducing a special guest: Kevin's hygienist, Maryann McFarland. Maryann shares her journey through a 32-year career in hygiene, from a frustrating first job in a "prophy mill" to finding her work home in Kevin's practice. She discusses how embracing new challenges like sleep apnea treatment, clear aligner therapy, and administering local anesthesia has reinvigorated her passion for dentistry and transformed her job satisfaction. Key Takeaways Find Your "Work Home": A positive and supportive work environment is crucial for long-term career satisfaction. Maryanne's story shows the stark contrast between a high-turnover practice and one that invests in its team. Trust Empowers Your Team: Practice owners who trust their team members with new responsibilities and encourage them to develop their skills can unlock a higher level of engagement and satisfaction. As Maryanne says, Kevin "finds what we're good at and he lets us run with it." Hygiene is More Than Cleaning Teeth: Expanding a hygienist's role beyond traditional prophies to include comprehensive care like sleep apnea, orthodontics, and implants can combat burnout and foster significant professional growth, even for a 30+ year veteran. Embrace Lifelong Learning: Being open to learning new skills, like when Maryanne took on local anesthesia after 30 years without it, can be challenging but ultimately become one of the most rewarding parts of the job. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37478825

AME: The Internet Before the Internet with Richard Heend 07/21/2025

AME: The Internet Before the Internet with Richard Heend In this nostalgic throwback episode, Alan reconnects with his childhood friend, Richard Heend, to reminisce about the internet before the internet. They journey back to the early 1980s, discussing their first encounters with computers like the Atari 400, the magic of bulletin board systems (BBS), and the thrill of playing games like Jumpman Jr. From the screech of a 300-baud modem and the limitations of a single phone line to the novelty of a dot-matrix printer, Alan and Rich explore how these early, text-based online communities were the evolutionary precursors to today's social media. They reflect on how the fundamental human drive for connection and reaction has remained the same, even as the technology has changed beyond recognition. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37474335

Very Dental: Al and the Amazing Pants with Angus Pryor 07/18/2025

Very Dental: Al and the Amazing Pants with Angus Pryor Alan is joined by Australian marketing expert and fellow podcaster, Angus Pryor! The episode was recorded live from the Chicago Midwinter Meeting. Their chat begins with the surprising discovery that they both live on large rural farms, complete with forests, horses, and messy ducks. This shared experience launches them into a wide-ranging conversation about the art and business of podcasting, the strange nature of social media, the complexities of modern marketing, and the fine line between ethical patient education and "salesiness" in healthcare. Angus concludes by sharing the unique value proposition of his dental outsourcing company, Dental Stars. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37444420

Very Clinical: Is Posterior Composite Anatomy Important or Pretentious? with Dr. Dan Smith 07/15/2025

AME: The Cancellation Menagerie 07/14/2025

Very Dental: Wrapping Up Patient Anxiety with Steph Tang of Wallaby 07/11/2025

Very Dental: Wrapping Up Patient Anxiety with Steph Tang of Wallaby Alan sits down with Steph Tang, the co-founder of , a company that has developed a therapeutic weighted blanket specifically for dental and healthcare settings. Steph shares her personal experience as a dental patient which sparked the idea for the Wallaby. She explains the science behind deep pressure stimulation and how the Wallaby helps to calm the nervous system, reduce anxiety, and create a more relaxing experience for patients. Steph and Alan also discuss the practical applications of the Wallaby in a dental practice, including its durable, medical-grade, and easy-to-disinfect material, as well as its potential to reduce the need for other sedation options! Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37332745

Very Clinical: Are You There, AI? It's me...JLips 07/08/2025

Very Clinical: Are You There, AI? It's me...JLips In this throwback episode Dr. Jason Lipscomb joins the Very Clinical guys live from VOD 23 to challenge the dental industry's conventional wisdom! He debunks the myth that you can be taught to "love" dentistry, especially by those out of touch with the modern-day pressures of practice ownership, staffing shortages, and waning employee loyalty. The hosts and Dr. Lipscomb discuss whether loving your job is even the right goal, weighing passion against the often-harsh realities of the profession. The conversation then shifts to the future, exploring how artificial intelligence tools like ChatGPT can revolutionize dental marketing by effortlessly generating content, from blog posts to videos, while also considering the "scary" potential of deepfakes and AI-driven patient communication. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37308285

AME: Adulting and the Recall Practice 07/07/2025

AME: Adulting and the Recall Practice Alan reflects on the importance of maintenance, both in car care and dental practices. He discusses the parallels between regular car maintenance and consistent dental care, emphasizing the benefits of methodical upkeep to avoid surprises and extend longevity. Dr. Mead proposes using AI to create comprehensive dental maintenance reports for patients, akin to car service records, to improve recall practices and patient engagement. The point is that car owners and patients can actually take pride in being responsible for themselves. Key takeaways: Embrace the "Adulting" Mindset: Just as regular car maintenance is a sign of responsible adulthood, so is consistent dental care. Patients who come in for regular recalls are already in a mindset to take care of their health, making them more receptive to your recommendations. Improve Your Communication: Car dealerships often provide a detailed report of what was checked, what was done, and what might need attention in the future. Dentists can adopt a similar strategy by providing patients with a clear, concise summary of their visit, including visual aids like intraoral photos, to reinforce the value of the appointment. Plant Seeds for Future Treatment: Use the recall appointment to educate patients about potential future needs. Mentioning a tooth that might need a crown down the line plants a seed, so when the time comes for treatment, the patient is already prepared and understands the necessity. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37305695

Very Dental: Building a Practice That Runs Without You with Dr. Paul Etchison 07/04/2025

Very Dental: Building a Practice That Runs Without You with Dr. Paul Etchison Alan welcomes back friend, dentist, and coach Dr. Paul Etchison to talk about his unique career journey. Paul shares how he went from working in a high-volume clinic to building a startup practice that grew so quickly he was forced to bring on associates. He details the specific strategies he used, like prioritizing new patients and intentionally creating capacity, to scale his single office into a five-doctor, 9,000-patient practice. Paul also opens up about his battle with burnout, the decision to sell to a DSO with the intent to exit, and the surprising realization that led him to stay. This conversation is packed with actionable insights on creating systems, delegating, and building a practice that grants you the freedom to work less and live more. Key insights: From High-Volume to High-Value: Paul’s journey began in a busy HMO/Medicaid clinic, which taught him speed and what he didn't want in a practice. Forced Growth: His startup became so busy through organic referrals that he was "forced" to hire an associate to handle the capacity. The New Patient Engine: Intentionally holding schedule blocks for new patients is a key strategy to drive growth and justify adding hygienists and doctors. The Magic of Two (Plus) Associates: While one associate adds profitability, Dr. Etchison believes the second associate is when the magic happens, making the owner's personal production less critical. The Path to Less Clinical: Paul now works only a few half-days per month by successfully transitioning his practice to be associate-driven. Burnout and the DSO Sale: Feeling overwhelmed, he sold his practice to a DSO at age 39, planning to exit dentistry. Why He Stayed: After the sale, he successfully delegated leadership duties, which rekindled his passion and led him to stay on after his contract ended. Delegate What You Dread: Tasks you hate are often tasks another team member will enjoy; learn to delegate effectively. Design Your Ideal Work Week: Consciously identify what brings you joy versus what drains you, and restructure your role accordingly. Build a Practice That Runs Without You: The ultimate goal is to create systems and a leadership team that allow the practice to thrive, whether you are there or not. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37230795

Very Clinical: Profitable Practice Without Placing Implants? 07/01/2025

Very Clinical: Profitable Practice Without Placing Implants? In this throwback episode of the Very Clinical podcast, hosts Zach and Kevin are joined by Voices of Dentistry 2023 co-founder, Dr. Alan Mead. Alan kicks off a "myths and tips" segment by challenging the idea that a dental practice must place implants to be profitable, specifically to reach the million-dollar mark. The discussion explores the significant boost in profitability and efficiency that implants can provide, with Kevin sharing his personal experience and insights from mentoring at 3D Dentists. They also touch on the accessibility of implant training and the importance of a digital workflow. For his tip, Alan shares his technique for achieving a superior polish on anterior composite restorations using a sequence of flexible polishing discs, sparking a lively and humorous conversation about proper finishing techniques. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy," "Lipscomb" or "Gary!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37225120

AME: Summer Camp for Dentists 06/30/2025

AME: Summer Camp for Dentists Alan Mead shares his personal journey into being a temporary "empty nester" as both of his sons attend the Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp for the first time. He reflects on their artistic pursuits—tuba and fine arts—and the humorous anxieties and newfound freedom that come with a quiet house. In the second half, Alan announces the exciting return of a beloved dental meeting as a pop-up event: "Voices of Dentistry 2025." He details this intimate, last-minute "summer camp for dentists," scheduled for August 1st and 2nd in Gilbert, Arizona! If you're interested in CE, podcasting, and networking it's to get one of the very limited tickets for what promises to be a unique and memorable experience. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37207575

Very Dental: Dr. August de Oliveira and the Dumb Radiologist Associate 06/27/2025

Very Dental: Dr. August de Oliveira and the Dumb Radiologist Associate Alan welcomes back long-time friend and fellow 1997 dental school graduate, Dr. August de Oliveira. They take a trip back in time, reminiscing about the early days of the online forum Dentaltown, where Dr. de Oliveira pioneered sharing cases for critique with his "CERECs du Jour" thread. The conversation then fast-forwards to the present, focusing on the technologies impacting dentistry today. Dr. de Oliveira shares his transformative experience with Pearl AI, explaining how it has significantly boosted his practice's production by identifying more same-day dentistry and serving as an invaluable "second set of eyes" on radiographs. They also explore the hype versus reality of augmented reality, the evolution of intraoral scanners, and look ahead to future innovations like dental MRIs and Optical Coherence Tomography (OCT). Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Gary," "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at ! /episode/index/show/dentalhacks/id/37162115

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