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Very Dental: Katrina Klein, RDH on Protecting Your Career with Dental Ergonomics
04/18/2025
Very Dental: Katrina Klein, RDH on Protecting Your Career with Dental Ergonomics
Today's episode is another one that was recorded live at the Chicago Midwinter Meeting! Alan Mead chats with renowned dental ergonomics expert Katrina Klein. Katrina shares her incredible journey from just starting out to becoming a leading voice in the field, emphasizing the critical role of ergonomics in career longevity. Discover why this often-overlooked aspect of dentistry is essential for preventing pain, improving wellness, and how small, practical changes can make a significant impact on your daily practice and overall health. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: A CareStack Story with Jamie Flanagan of CareStack
04/15/2025
Very Clinical: A CareStack Story with Jamie Flanagan of CareStack
In today's Zachless episode, Kevin is joined Alan, along with co-hosts Missy Fryer and Jamie Flanagan of CareStack! They Share insights on transitioning to CareStack, a cloud-based practice management software. The conversation covers initial fears, benefits of the system, and the comprehensive support provided by CareStack during the switch. Jamie outlines the advantages, including consolidation of operations, enhanced security, and operational efficiency. Missy reflects on the seamless data migration and robust ongoing support that alleviated initial concerns. Some links from the show: If you decide to look in to CareStack, be sure to let them know that you heard about them on the podcast! Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: On Mountain Biking and Being Influenced
04/14/2025
AME: On Mountain Biking and Being Influenced
Alan shares a personal milestone (achieving a fitness age of 50!) and dives into his love for mountain biking – an exercise that feels like playing. He uses his experience to draw a powerful analogy between the often extreme portrayal of mountain biking on social media and the curated "highlight reel" often seen in the dental world online. Alan discusses how comparing ourselves to these curated images can lead to feeling "less than," whether it's watching downhill racers pull off impossible stunts or seeing dentists showcase only their most complex cases. The core message? It's okay to find joy and fulfillment in your version of biking or dentistry, even if it isn't "Instagram-epic." You are enough, and your "bread and butter" work is valuable. Key Points: Alan's journey from reluctant runner to avid mountain biker (including surviving being hit by a truck!). The joy of finding exercise that feels like play. The danger of comparing your "insides" to others' curated "outsides." Finding contentment and value in your current practice style or skill level is valid and important. While pursuing new skills is great if you want to, don't feel pressured by online comparisons. You are enough, just as you are. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: A Recipe for Implant Dentistry Success with Dr. Tim Kosinski
04/11/2025
Very Dental: A Recipe for Implant Dentistry Success with Dr. Tim Kosinski
Recorded live from the CDS Midwinter Meeting Podcast Lounge, Alan had a great conversation with veteran implant dentist and educator, Dr. Tim Kosinski! With nearly four decades and over 20,000 implants placed, Dr. Kosinski shares his "recipe for success," emphasizing critical thinking, foundational knowledge, and the importance of mentorship in the evolving world of implant dentistry. Key Takeaways: Master the Recipe: Success in implants requires a step-by-step foundational approach. Don't skip steps in planning and execution. Think Critically: Placing the implant isn't the hardest part; treatment planning, patient communication, understanding anatomy, and managing potential complications are key. Visualize the end result before you start. Show Up: In-person learning, networking, and mentorship are irreplaceable for developing complex skills. You can't master implants solely via YouTube or Zoom. Tech is a Tool, Not the Master: Embrace CBCT, digital scanning, and other tech for diagnostics and planning, but remember your role as the clinician treating a person. Bone is Gold: Prioritize atraumatic extractions (e.g., using ) and routine socket preservation (grafting) to maintain options for patients, whether for implants or conventional restorations. Dr. Kozinski recommends the for predictable socket grafting without a membrane in many cases. Ethics First: Provide options, communicate clearly, save teeth when viable, and avoid overtreating or cookie-cutter approaches (especially regarding full-arch cases). Know Your Limits: Start with straightforward cases (like single posterior implants), build confidence and skill, and don't hesitate to refer complex cases – even high-volume clinicians collaborate with specialists. Keep Learning: Dentistry constantly evolves. Commit to lifelong continuing education! Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Planting Seeds and Placing Implants with Dr. Adam Frounfelter
04/08/2025
Very Clinical: Planting Seeds and Placing Implants with Dr. Adam Frounfelter
In this throwback episode of Very Clinical Kevin and Zach are joined by Dr. Adam Frounfelter! Adam and Kevin teach hands on implants together at 3D Dentists! Key takeaways: Overview of the 3D Dentist Implant Continuum Key Aspects of Implant Planning and Placement (Crown-Down Approach) Extraction and Grafting Considerations Utilizing PRF and Sticky Bone in Grafting Guided Implant Surgery Benefits Same-Day Scanning for Implant Restorations Post-Implant Placement and Uncovering Surgical Skillset for Implant Training Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: From Curing Lights to Killer Reads (a Recommendation Engine)
04/07/2025
AME: From Curing Lights to Killer Reads (a Recommendation Engine)
Fresh off a spring break road trip Alan has some dental and non-dental recommendations! Some links from the show: If you're buying Garrison stuff use code SO1124MEAD for 10% off any non-curing light product and $100 credit off a future purchase if you buy a curing light!
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Very Dental: A Conversation with The Badass Hygienist (aka: Melissa Obrotka)
04/04/2025
Very Dental: A Conversation with The Badass Hygienist (aka: Melissa Obrotka)
Alan was joined by the incomparable Melissa Obrotka, also known as "The Badass Hygienist!" They recorded this conversation live at the Chicago Midwinter Dental Meeting. The episode dives deep into Melissa's journey in dental hygiene, her passion for progressive care, and her insights on the current state and future of the profession. Melissa shares the story behind her "Badass Hygienist" nickname, stemming from her proactive approach to improving patient care and her willingness to advocate for better technology and techniques. She recounts her experience transitioning to a periodontal prosthetics practice and the steep learning curve involved in maintaining complex implant cases as well as how she discovered "Guided Biofilm Therapy" (or GBT) a techniqu that she now teaches and uses clinically. Dr. Mead and Melissa also tackle some of the challenging issues facing dentistry today, including the hygiene shortage and potential solutions, the complexities of insurance-driven care, and the need for better communication and understanding between dentists and hygienists. Melissa offers her perspective on how hygienists can move beyond "polishing a paycheck" and embrace a more therapeutic and patient-centered approach. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Difficult Crown Preps (and other student questions)
04/01/2025
Very Clinical: Difficult Crown Preps (and other student questions)
Kevin and Zach are once again joined by Very Dental Student Mo and Very Dental's Al to answer student questions! Topics: Managing Difficult Crown Preparations Managing Team Conflicts Referring vs. Attempting Extractions Recommended CE Courses for New Dentists Tricks for Achieving Perfect Posterior Composite Contacts Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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Very Dental Student: Managing Difficult Patients
03/31/2025
Very Dental Student: Managing Difficult Patients
Mohamed is back with Kevin, Zach and Al to pose dental student questions to these grizzled veterans. The guys start out with a raucous discussion of NCAA brackets and what's wrong with basketball but then move to answering questions from curious dental students! Some key topics of discussion: Post-Op Sensitivity: What are your protocols for managing post-op sensitivity for fillings or crowns? Challenging Patients: How do you handle patients who challenge your clinical recommendations or demand unnecessary treatment? Soft Tissue Management: What are your best practices for managing soft tissue during restorative or surgical procedures? Referral Management: How do you manage patient referrals to a specialist while maintaining continuity of care? Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Making Dental Insurance Sexy with Teresa Duncan
03/28/2025
Very Dental: Making Dental Insurance Sexy with Teresa Duncan
Alan recently sat down with Teresa Duncan at the Chicago Midwinter Dental meeting! Teresa is an expert in dental insurance and dental office management. The conversation dives into the often-overlooked but critical aspects of dental practice, including insurance compliance, the evolving role of AI in administrative tasks, financial discussions with patients, hygiene practice management, and the potential future of dental practices within the broader healthcare landscape. The episode offers practical advice and insights for dentists and their teams on navigating the complexities of modern dental administration and compliance. Key Discussion Points: The Challenge of "Unsexy" Topics: Dentists often prioritize clinical topics (like implants) over administrative and compliance issues. Theresa's ability to make complex, less appealing topics engaging. Compliance Concerns: Importance of compliance in areas like insurance contracts. The burden of compliance and its lack of intuitiveness. Medicare Advantage Plans: Requirement for fraud, waste, and abuse training for anyone submitting claims, even out-of-network providers. Importance of compliance to avoid audits or being dropped from networks. CMS's role and the responsibility of insurance companies to ensure network compliance. Improving Claims: The importance of good radiographs and documentation. Documenting patient statements and details in clinical notes. Insurance companies' preference for screenshots of clinical notes over narratives. AI in Dentistry: Potential benefits of AI for note-taking and reducing administrative burden. Ambient listening technology for recording patient encounters. Concerns about privacy and the need for patient permission. AI's ability to assist with tasks like writing appeals and generating documents. Phone Answering AI: AI's potential for handling phone calls and answering patient questions. Questions about patient acceptance and ethical considerations regarding disclosure. Financial Discussions in Dentistry vs. Medicine: The difference in how financial matters are discussed with patients in dentistry and medicine. Challenges related to insurance reimbursements and patient responsibility. Hygiene Practices: The impact of hygiene shortages on dental practices. Debate around pre-appointing hygiene and the value of hygiene services. Financial considerations for hygiene services and the need to ensure profitability. Out-of-Network Considerations: Challenges and benefits of going out of network. The importance of excellent patient service and communication for out-of-network practices. Revenue Cycle Management: The increasing specialization of roles in revenue cycle management. The trend toward outsourcing revenue cycle functions. The importance of understanding all aspects of the revenue cycle. The Future of Dental Practices: Concerns about the influence of DSOs and potential consolidation with healthcare systems. The role of the ADA and the potential impact of Medicare expansion on dentistry. Challenges facing dentists, including student debt and employment trends. Resources and Links (To be added to show notes): Links to Medicare and Medicaid training resources (as mentioned in the podcast). Information about Theresa Duncan's online courses and Dental Revenue Network. Information about the American Association of Dental Office Management (A-ADOM). Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Dental Pet Peeves
03/25/2025
Very Clinical: Dental Pet Peeves
Could this be the most relatable episode we've ever recorded? Zach, Kevin, and Alan unleash their pent-up frustrations with common patient behaviors that drive them absolutely bonkers. From anatomical annoyances to baffling patient logic, no pet peeve is spared. Get ready to laugh and nod in agreement as they share their most outrageous clinical experiences. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: The Incidental Finding
03/24/2025
AME: The Incidental Finding
Alan shares a personal and frustrating experience involving his son, Jacob, and an unexpected medical finding. He reflects on the complexities of the medical system, the challenges of incidental findings, and his concerns about the current state of healthcare. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Creating Furniture to Support Dentists with Steven Haaksma
03/21/2025
Very Dental: Creating Furniture to Support Dentists with Steven Haaksma
Alan is joined at the Chicago Midwinter meeting by Steven Haaksma of BQE or "Back Quality Ergonomics." Alan has used a bunch of their stools over the years and is a big fan of the ergonomic products that Steven's company has created. Key Takeaways: BQE = Back Quality Ergonomics: The meaning behind the company name. Dutch Roots, American Story: Steven's background and how BQE started in the US. PT-Founded: BQE's origins with Steven's father, a physical therapist focused on back pain. Dental Professionals' Back Pain: The high prevalence of back issues in dentistry inspired BQE's focus. Challenging Traditional Stools: The problems with round and flat dental chairs. Ergonomic Design Principles: Getting closer to the patient and preventing slouching. The Original ErgoDynamic: The unique chair where the backrest automatically adjusts to the user. Convex Backrest: BQE's signature design for optimal lumbar support, available in different sizes. Beyond Dentistry: BQE also serves veterinary and optometry markets. Alan's Back Story: Dr. Mead's personal experience with a back injury and the importance of prevention. The "Chair Museum": Alan's journey to finding the right ergonomic seating. Armrest Benefits: Supporting arm weight reduces strain (arms are ~5% of body weight each). Saddle & Alternative Seats: Options for different preferences while maintaining good ergonomics. European vs. US Saddle Popularity: Interesting differences in adoption. Educating Dentists: Raising awareness about the long-term benefits of ergonomic seating. The Science of Slouching: How the ErgoDynamic chair actively combats poor posture. Proper Positioning: The importance of both dentist and patient positioning. Investment, Not Expense: BQE chairs are durable and competitively priced. 30-Day Trial: Confidence in their product with a low return rate. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Kevin is (Care) Stacked!
03/18/2025
Very Clinical: Kevin is (Care) Stacked!
"I want this to run like a real business, and if that's what it takes to run it, I know that I'll get the revenue back." -- Kevin on investing in CareStack. Today, the Very Clinical guys dive into the world of dental practice management software. Kevin, Zach and Al discuss their first experiences with computers, their current software choices, and Kevin's recent switch to CareStack. The conversation highlights the evolution of practice management from early home-grown solutions to modern, cloud-based platforms. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: Do Something
03/17/2025
AME: Do Something
Alan reflects on the importance of "doing something" when it comes to emotional health, contrasting it with his earlier philosophy of "don't just do something, sit there" in the context of dental diagnosis. He shares a personal story about his son's music competition and how his own emotional reaction led him to realize the power of action in managing feelings. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Understanding Authenticity with Dr. Charlotte Drumi
03/14/2025
Very Dental: Understanding Authenticity with Dr. Charlotte Drumi
Alan is joined by Dr. Charlotte Drumi for an "in person" recording from the recent Chicago Midwinter Meeting! She's a young dentist with an old soul and Alan learned a lot from this conversation! They discuss Charlotte's journey from documenting her dental school experience on Instagram to becoming a recognized content creator in the dental field. They delve into the challenges of social media, the importance of authenticity, the pressures faced by new dentists, and the impact of her international background on her perspective. Key Talking Points: Social Media and Authenticity: The importance of sharing both professional and personal aspects of life. Balancing curated content with genuine, "raw" experiences. Building connections through interactions and storytelling. The change from highly curated content, to more authentic content. Navigating Social Media Platforms: Focus on Instagram, with considerations for expanding to TikTok. Managing the time and effort required for multiple platforms. Adapting to changes in social media trends, such as Reels. Content Creation and Community: Motivations for creating content: connecting with and helping others. Receiving positive feedback and witnessing the impact of her content. The evolving nature of her audience, from students to practicing dentists. Challenges and Pressures: Balancing content creation with the demands of practicing dentistry. Dealing with the lack of privacy that comes with a public presence. The constant need to "feed the beast" with content. Mentorship and Early Career: The importance of mentorship for new dentists. Collaborating with experienced doctors and learning from their perspectives. The challenges of finding quality mentorship in the current dental landscape. The differences between older and newer generations of dentists. Dental School Debt and Finances: The financial pressures faced by recent dental graduates. The lack of financial education in dental school. Strategies for managing debt and building financial literacy. International Background and Perspective: Dr. Drumey's upbringing in Russia and its influence on her work ethic and resourcefulness. The value of education and pursuing passions. Adapting to the "first world struggles" in the United States. The importance of skepticism. Advice for New Dentists and Dental Students: Staying true to ethical beliefs and personal values. Focusing on the reasons for entering dentistry. Embracing challenges and learning from failures. The importance of looking in the mirror, and being proud of the choices you've made. Social Media Comparison: Advice for people who struggle with comparison. The importance of authenticity. Taking social media with a grain of salt. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Amalgam in 2025 with Dr. Kevin Donlan
03/11/2025
Very Clinical: Amalgam in 2025 with Dr. Kevin Donlan
In this throwback episode Kevin and Zach are once again joined by Dr. Kevin Donlan to discuss the controversial topic of amalgam in modern dentistry. Is this classic restorative material still relevant in 2025? They delve into the pros and cons, share personal experiences, and debate whether amalgam still has a place in everyday dental practice. Key Takeaways: Amalgam still has a place in dentistry, particularly in situations with challenging isolation. Patient education and clear communication are crucial for material selection. Dental education and practice philosophies have evolved significantly over the years. Four handed dentistry is ideal, and when not possible, isolation devices can increase the dentists ability to perform good dentistry. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Today's episode featured Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: Dentist Side Hustles with Alex and Eric from "Just a Couple of Dentists"
03/10/2025
AME: Dentist Side Hustles with Alex and Eric from "Just a Couple of Dentists"
Alan shares his recent guest appearance on "Just a Couple of Dentists," a podcast hosted by millennial dentists Alex and Eric. They discuss the evolving landscape of dentistry, the rise of side hustles, and the challenges faced by younger dentists. Alan, Alex, and Eric delve into the reasons behind the shift from traditional clinical focus to entrepreneurial ventures, the impact of social media, and the realities of practice ownership. They also play a fun "Kiss, Marry, Kill" game with potential dental side gigs. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Embracing AI in Dentistry with Preet Sandhu
03/07/2025
Very Dental: Embracing AI in Dentistry with Preet Sandhu
AI is rapidly transforming the dental industry, offering numerous opportunities for efficiency and improved patient care. Alan talked with Preet Sandhu at the recent Chicago Midwinter Dental meeting about some used of AI in dentistry that you may not have thought of. Preet is the CEO of ViralKraft (an honest marketing company) as well as StafGo Health, which focuses on the revenue cycle in the dental office. Preet has extensive background in finance and marketing, including 18 years in corporate finance and experience with healthcare finance. The conversation is a deep dive into how AI is revolutionizing dental practices, from marketing and revenue cycle management to patient care and diagnosis. Key Takeaways: The Integration of Marketing and Revenue Cycle Management: How these two aspects of a dental practice are interconnected. The benefits of separating them into distinct companies. Marketing in Modern Dentistry: The shift from traditional family practices to more specialized dental services. The importance of tailored marketing strategies based on demographics and location. The increasing role of AI in personalizing marketing campaigns. AI Applications in Dentistry: Content creation, including blogs and show notes. Analysis of patient data to personalize treatment and marketing. Streamlining billing and insurance verification processes. Assisting in diagnosis through the analysis of radiographs and other medical images. AI tools for note taking, and meeting summaries. Ethical Considerations of AI in Healthcare: The importance of transparency and patient consent when using AI tools, especially for recording patient interactions. The balance between leveraging AI for efficiency and maintaining the human touch in patient care. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Failures and Last Case Bias with Dr. Kevin Donlin
03/04/2025
Very Clinical: Failures and Last Case Bias with Dr. Kevin Donlin
This throwback episode features Kevin and Zach talking to Dr. Kevin Donlin about winter sports, clinical failures, "last case bias" and how social media can affect a clinician's treatment plans. Key Takeaways: Last Case Bias: The guys discuss how last case bias can influence treatment decisions, particularly when it comes to new materials and techniques. They emphasize the importance of being honest with oneself about the causes of failures and avoiding making changes based solely on anecdotal evidence. Social Media's Influence on Dentistry: The fellas discuss the potential dangers of relying on social media for dental information, particularly for young dentists and dental students. They highlight the lack of long-term follow-up on many social media platforms and the importance of critical thinking when evaluating information online. They also discuss the impact of social media on trends in dentistry, such as the shift towards more conservative or aggressive treatment approaches. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Today's episode featured Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: Still Pushing the Button
03/03/2025
AME: Still Pushing the Button
Alan reflects a bit on a technique he calls "Pushing the Button." He originally wrote about it in a post on the Dental Hacks website and still finds it an effective way to help create interpersonal connections. Key Themes: Patient communication and relationship building The importance of human connection in dentistry Managing challenging patient interactions Personal growth and self-awareness The benefit of being personable. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: I Can See Your Crack From Here with Dr. David Clark
02/28/2025
Very Dental: I Can See Your Crack From Here with Dr. David Clark
Alan welcomes Dr. David Clark back to the show. David is the inventor of the Bioclear system and one of the people that really turned Alan on to microscope dentistry. Key Takeaways: Dr. Clark discusses his "Cracked Tooth Lecture" and the controversy surrounding its title. The importance of microscopes in dentistry and how they can help diagnose and treat cracked teeth. The evolution of bioclear and the latest advancements in injection molding composite dentistry. The importance of the gingival third and achieving a perfect margin. Dr. Clark's recent heart attack and the lessons he learned from it. The importance of getting a cardiologist and taking care of your health. The delicate art of not giving a rip and setting your BS meter to zero. Social media and its impact on mental health. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Dental Student Questions, Part Deux!
02/25/2025
Very Clinical: Dental Student Questions, Part Deux!
This week, Kevin and Zach are joined again by Alan and "Dr." Mo, host of the Very Dental Student podcast, to answer more listener questions. They cover a range of topics, including: Mastering Occlusion: Tips and tools for achieving optimal occlusion in restorative procedures, with a focus on fillings and crowns. Managing Patients with a Strong Gag Reflex: Practical strategies for minimizing gagging during procedures, including the use of acupuncture, rubber dams, and patient communication techniques. Diagnosing and Treating Crack Tooth Syndrome: Identifying and addressing cracked teeth, with insights on the use of transilluminators, tooth sleuths, and provisional crowns. Staying Current with Dental Technology: Balancing the desire to keep up with the latest advancements without overspending, with a discussion on return on investment and the importance of contentment. It's important to remember that Al is obviously a Gryffindor and Kevin is most likely a Hufflepuff. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Today's episode featured Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: Chicago Midwinter 2025 Review
02/24/2025
AME: Chicago Midwinter 2025 Review
Alan is back from the Chicago Midwinter Dental Meeting and shares his experiences and highlights from the exhibition floor. He discusses new products and technologies, including a new buffering system for anesthetics, AI tools for chart notes, updates from Bioclear, and a "new" microscope from Enova Illumination. He also talks about his experience podcasting at the meeting and his plans for future episodes. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Hands On Implant Training with Dr. Justin Moody
02/21/2025
Very Dental: Hands On Implant Training with Dr. Justin Moody
Alan catches up with Dr. Justin Moody, his friend and business partner. They reminisce about their experiences in dental school and how dentistry has changed over the years. They discuss the importance of hands-on training, especially for new dentists, and the need for critical thinking and humility in implant dentistry. They also touch on the challenges of treating patients with full arch implant cases and the importance of ethical considerations. Key Takeaways: The importance of hands-on training in dentistry, especially for new dentists. The need for critical thinking and humility in implant dentistry. The challenges of treating patients with full arch implant cases. The importance of ethical considerations in implant dentistry. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: Dental Student Questions!
02/18/2025
Very Clinical: Dental Student Questions!
Zach and Kevin are joined by the "Very Dental Student" podcast's host, Mohamed and Al to answer some questions that Mo put together from dental students! Managing Cancellations: The hosts debate the best strategies for dealing with frequent cancellations, from strict rescheduling policies to prepayment systems. Restorability vs. Extraction: A nuanced discussion on the factors that influence decisions about saving or extracting teeth, including patient preferences, practitioner skills, and the availability of implant options. Emergency Protocols: Tips for effectively managing dental emergencies, emphasizing the importance of pain control and efficient procedures like extractions and pulpectomies. Burnout Prevention: The hosts offer candid advice on combating burnout, highlighting the importance of self-care, outside interests, supportive communities, and maintaining perspective. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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AME: A Pain Management Puzzle
02/17/2025
AME: A Pain Management Puzzle
Alan delves into a thought-provoking ethical dilemma presented in the Very Clinical Facebook group regarding pain management for a patient in recovery. Pain Management Dilemma: A detailed discussion of a Facebook post in "Very Clinical" about a patient in recovery on methadone who initially refused narcotics but later requested stronger pain medication after a procedure. Alan's Perspective on Recovery and Pain: Alan shares personal anecdotes about his own recovery journey and experiences with pain management, including his thoughts on harm reduction and the importance of personal responsibility in recovery. Ethical Considerations: The complexities of prescribing narcotics to a patient in recovery, the importance of open communication, and the value of consulting with other healthcare professionals (like the patient's pain management MD in this case). Alternative Pain Management: Discussion of alternative pain management strategies, such as injectable or oral steroids (dexamethasone). Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Dental: Is the Hygiene Model Broken with Dr. Jason Smithson
02/14/2025
Very Dental: Is the Hygiene Model Broken with Dr. Jason Smithson
Alan is joined once again by the one and only Dr. Jason Smithson. We've often compared how dentistry is delivered differently between the United States and the UK, but today we compare how dental hygiene is delivered differently. Summary: Dr. Alan Mead and Dr. Jason Smithson discuss the stark differences in how dental hygiene is approached in the United States versus the UK. They explore the reasons behind these differences, including insurance models, historical practices, and the perceived value of hygiene appointments by patients. The conversation also touches upon the role of diagnosis, consent, and duty of care in dental treatment. Key Discussion Points: Jason's Current Activities: Dr. Smithson discusses his teaching schedule at Spear Education, including new courses on aging teeth and other advanced restorative techniques. He also mentions his work in Australia and Europe. The Hygienist Shortage: Alan describes his difficulty in finding a hygienist due to increased pay demands and a shrinking pool of candidates. This leads into the core discussion of the episode. US vs. UK Hygiene Models: US: Hygienists are often the primary point of contact for patients, with a focus on regular cleanings regardless of individual needs and disease. The system is largely insurance-driven. Patients often prioritize the cleaning over the dentist's exam. UK: Dentists assess patients first, determining recall intervals based on risk factors (caries, periodontal disease, wear). Hygienist appointments are prescribed by the dentist and are therapy-focused (e.g., scaling and root planing for periodontal disease). Healthy patients may not see a hygienist at all. Value Perception: Jason argues that the US system can make hygiene seem like a cosmetic procedure, diminishing its perceived value, especially for healthy patients. The UK model ties hygiene to specific therapeutic needs, increasing its perceived value. Insurance and Payment Models: The discussion touches on the differences between NHS (government-funded) and private dental care in the UK, as well as the impact of insurance on treatment decisions in the US. The UK has a mixed system, while Dr. Smithson's practice is entirely fee-for-service. Direct Access Hygiene (UK): In the UK, patients can directly access hygienists without a dentist's referral. This is uncommon in the US. Diagnosis and Consent: Jason highlights the importance of explicit diagnosis before treatment, emphasizing that informed consent cannot be obtained without a diagnosis. He suggests that the US system sometimes relies on implicit diagnoses. Duty of Care: Jason explains the concept of duty of care in the UK, stating that dentists assume responsibility for a patient's care once treatment begins. This raises questions about the US system and potential legal implications. Efficiency and Multitasking: The conversation explores the inefficiency of jumping between patients and procedures, including hygiene checks during restorative work. Jason cites research on the negative impact of multitasking on quality and productivity. Patient Expectations: The discussion acknowledges that US patients have been conditioned to expect regular cleanings, even when not clinically necessary. This creates a challenge for dentists who might want to shift to a more therapy-focused model. Some links from the show: Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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Very Clinical: The Kevin Fryer Origin Story
02/11/2025
Very Clinical: The Kevin Fryer Origin Story
Where did the Kevin Fryer we know and love come from? In today's throwback episode Zach interviews Kevin about why he became a dentist and how his career evolved! Kevin shares his journey in dentistry, from a traumatic childhood injury that sparked his interest in the field to establishing his own practice. He discusses his educational background, initial years doing general dentistry, and the subsequent shifts that led him to embrace advanced procedures like ortho, implants, and sleep apnea treatments. Kevin highlights key influences like Dr. Rick DePaul and Dr. Tarun "T-Bone" Agarwal, and how advancements with CEREC technology and cone beam integration helped him revolutionize his practice. He also covers the importance of continuing education, team involvement, and the financial and emotional rewards from adopting new dental technologies and techniques. The episode concludes with advice for younger dentists on taking similar career paths. Very Clinical is brought to you by Zirc Dental Products, Inc., your trusted partner in dental efficiency and organization. The Very Clinical Corner segment features Kate Reinert, LDA, an experienced dental professional passionate about helping practices achieve clinical excellence. Connect with Kate Reinert on LinkedIn: Book a call with Kate: Ready to upscale your team? Explore Zirc’s solutions today:
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Very Dental Student: How to Do a Comprehensive Exam with Zach and Kevin
02/10/2025
Very Dental Student: How to Do a Comprehensive Exam with Zach and Kevin
Mohamed welcomes back Kevin and Zach to talk about the comprehensive exam. It turns out that they do them a little bit differently in dental school than in private practice! They discuss the challenges of lengthy school exams, the importance of efficient workflows in private practice, and the crucial role of patient communication. Key Discussion Points: Dental School Exams: Zach describes the lengthy and cumbersome process at his dental school, including screening appointments, multiple trips to radiology, extensive paperwork, and faculty approval. He highlights the frustration of the process and the difficulty of managing patient expectations and finances. Private Practice Workflow (Kevin): Kevin details his streamlined approach in private practice, emphasizing the importance of delegation to trained team members. His workflow includes: Comprehensive Records: High-quality photos (smile, retracted smile, occlusal, buccal), cone beam scans, bite wings, and potentially digital scans. He stresses the value of photos for patient education and documentation. Efficient Exam: A quick but thorough exam after reviewing records. Patient Communication: Using photos and plain language to explain diagnoses and treatment plans. Focusing on the patient's chief complaint. Treatment Planning & Financial Discussion: Developing a plan and discussing finances with the patient. Patient Triage: The hosts discuss the importance of phone triage to determine the type of appointment needed (emergency, comprehensive, etc.) and to schedule patients appropriately. They also touch on the challenge of "walk-in" emergencies and how to integrate them into the workflow. Patient Communication: Both Kevin and Zach emphasize the use of patient-friendly language, avoiding technical jargon. Kevin highlights the importance of showing patients their photos and explaining findings visually. Adapting to Patient Needs: The conversation covers tailoring exams and treatment plans to different patient populations (teens, elderly, etc.) and individual needs. Teamwork: Kevin emphasizes the role of a well-trained team in managing the workflow efficiently. Key Takeaways: Photos are Crucial: High-quality photos are invaluable for patient education, documentation, and communication. Streamline Your Workflow: Efficient processes save time and improve patient experience. Communicate Clearly: Use patient-friendly language and visuals to explain diagnoses and treatment plans. Triage Effectively: Proper phone triage helps schedule patients appropriately and manage the flow of the practice. Adapt and Pivot: Be prepared to adjust your approach based on individual patient needs and emergencies. Delegate Effectively: Trust your team members to handle tasks efficiently. Join the using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at ! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at !
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