Develop This: Economic and Community Development
Explore topics related to transformational community leadership including economic development, non-profit engagement, organizational management, and policy development. It's a candid conversation with veterans of the economic development profession along with inspiring interviews of today's thought leaders.
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DT #612 Building Where It’s Needed Most: A Developer’s Take on Workforce Housing
02/04/2026
DT #612 Building Where It’s Needed Most: A Developer’s Take on Workforce Housing
Housing has become one of the most urgent—and complex—challenges facing economic developers today. In this episode of , host sits down with , Owner and President of , , , and a housing developer. Speaking candidly from a developer’s perspective, Michael shares what it really takes to make housing projects work in small and mid-sized communities—and why so many well-intentioned plans never move from concept to construction. Drawing on his diverse portfolio across construction, real estate, energy, and community-focused development, Michael explains how housing challenges are deeply intertwined with workforce availability, zoning, financing, and local leadership. Dennis and Michael explore: Why housing is now a top economic development constraint The growing difficulty of delivering affordable and workforce housing How labor shortages in construction are impacting timelines and costs Regulatory and zoning hurdles that can stall or stop projects entirely The differences between new construction and renovation-based development Opportunities in both multifamily and single-family housing markets Why small communities must rely on local leadership—because “there’s no cavalry coming” Key Takeaways Housing is one of the most critical issues facing economic developers Developers bring practical insight into what makes projects viable Small communities face unique housing and financing challenges Workforce shortages significantly affect construction feasibility Affordable housing is increasingly complex to build Zoning and regulatory processes can impede development New construction and renovation projects require different strategies Strong community leadership is essential for success Both multifamily and single-family housing present opportunities Local champions are key to driving meaningful progress
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DT #617 What’s Next for Communities and Leadership with Will Baggett
02/04/2026
DT #617 What’s Next for Communities and Leadership with Will Baggett
In this special Develop This! Crystal Ball Series episode, host welcomes speaker and author for a wide-ranging conversation about what the future holds for leadership, communities, and economic development in 2026. Dennis and Will explore how AI, shifting cultural values, and new economic forces are reshaping communities. They discuss why human connection may become a competitive advantage, how third spaces and phone-free environments are emerging as a correction to digital overload, and why adaptability is the most valuable leadership skill of the next decade. The conversation also dives into emerging trends such as biohacking and longevity, the changing expectations of the housing market, the economic impact of sports betting and NIL deals, and the growing importance of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) over traditional SEO. Key Takeaways People are craving real human connection more than ever Adaptability is the most important leadership skill Communities need more gathering spaces that support small businesses Outdated assumptions create serious planning risks Biohacking and longevity are becoming mainstream A healthy lifespan may matter more than retirement age Phone-free and unplugged spaces are gaining traction Human connection can become a strategic advantage for organizations Housing expectations are shifting toward individual needs Sports betting and NIL deals are reshaping local economies The labor market is experiencing a backlog from multiple forces Third spaces are critical for community engagement The shift from SEO to GEO is transforming digital strategy Knowledge matters more than raw information
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DT #618 The Site Selectors Guild Explained: Standards, Strategy, and the Future of Site Selection
02/04/2026
DT #618 The Site Selectors Guild Explained: Standards, Strategy, and the Future of Site Selection
In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , Managing Director of the . This episode continues the relationship between the Develop This! Podcast and the Site Selectors Guild, offering listeners direct insight into how site selectors think, lead, and shape economic development outcomes. Samantha shares her unique career journey and how early leadership experiences helped shape her holistic approach to site selection. The conversation explores why community understanding is just as important as data, how the Guild promotes integrity and objectivity in the profession, and why member feedback is driving new initiatives—including the launch of new industry certifications. Dennis and Samantha also discuss the realities of site readiness, the importance of speculative investment, the Guild’s international expansion, and how partnerships and conferences are strengthening engagement across the profession. Key Takeaways Samantha’s diverse background shapes her holistic view of site selection Leadership lessons can come from early experiences, including youth organizations Understanding communities is critical to successful economic development The Site Selectors Guild promotes integrity and objectivity in site selection Member feedback guides the Guild’s future direction New certifications help define professional standards for site selectors International expansion reflects the realities of a global economy Site readiness requires careful planning and speculative investment Partnerships enhance learning and engagement opportunities Success as Managing Director means strong membership and impactful collaboration Mark your calendar and prepare for an unparalleled experience at the 2026 Guild Spring Conference with 50 top site selection consultants and members of the Site Selectors Guild taking place March 23-25, 2026 in the vibrant heart of Atlanta, Georgia! With a ratio of eight EDO attendees to one Guild member, this is your exclusive opportunity to connect directly with the world’s top location strategy experts and economic developers from across the US and abroad who are all shaping the future of site selection and global investment. The 2026 Guild Spring Conference will bring together the brightest minds in the industry for dynamic panel discussions, interactive roundtables, and high-impact networking sessions—all designed to spark new ideas, foster meaningful connections, and drive real results. Whether you are looking to showcase your community, understand the latest trends, or build relationships that matter, there is no better place to do it than at the Guild Spring Conference.
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DT #611 From First Impression to Final Decision: The Art and Science of the Site Visit
01/28/2026
DT #611 From First Impression to Final Decision: The Art and Science of the Site Visit
Site visits can make—or break—an economic development project. In this episode of , host is joined by , Executive Managing Director of and one of the nation’s most respected voices in site selection and economic development. With more than 30 years of experience across local and state government, nonprofit leadership, and the private sector, Larry has worked on nearly 600 projects, generating $12 billion in capital investment, creating 100,000+ jobs, and retaining more than 200,000 existing jobs. A former Chair of the . Larry brings unmatched insight into what site consultants and corporate decision-makers truly value when they come to town. As part of the ongoing partnership between Develop This! and the Site Selectors Guild, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how communities can prepare for, host, and follow up after site visits in ways that build trust and improve outcomes. Dennis and Larry explore: Why site visits are far more than “checking a box” in the project decision process Common misconceptions communities have about what site selectors are evaluating How logistics, professionalism, and pacing can influence perception Why authenticity, transparency, and the right people in the room matter more than a scripted pitch How meals, breaks, and quality-of-place experiences shape a visitor’s impression The critical importance of timely, thoughtful follow-up How technology and data are continuing to evolve the site selection process
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DT #616 The Future of Economic Development: Golden Shovel’s 2026 Crystal Ball
01/28/2026
DT #616 The Future of Economic Development: Golden Shovel’s 2026 Crystal Ball
Episode Summary: In this episode of the , host sits down with , Partner & CEO, and , President of as part of the Develop This! 2026 Crystal Ball Series. Together, they explore how the economic development landscape is rapidly evolving—and what professionals must do now to prepare for 2026 and beyond. The conversation dives into the game-changing role of artificial intelligence, the growing importance of community engagement, and why economic developers must become champions of their own organizations and regions. Aaron and Bethany discuss how communities often misdiagnose their challenges due to limited perspective, and why stakeholder engagement is essential for identifying real opportunities. They also unpack how websites are no longer standalone tools but part of a much broader digital and storytelling strategy that includes technology, virtual reality, and authentic community branding. Key themes include business retention and expansion, workforce attraction, and the rising importance of energy availability as a deciding factor for economic growth. The episode emphasizes that creativity, adaptability, and embracing technology are no longer optional—they are essential for stretching limited budgets and competing in a crowded marketplace. Key Takeaways Economic development is under increasing pressure from workforce and talent challenges. Artificial intelligence is transforming how communities market themselves and make decisions. Economic developers must actively champion their organizations and their missions. Stakeholder engagement is critical for accurately identifying community needs and barriers. Many communities misdiagnose their challenges due to a lack of an outside perspective. A website is only one part of a comprehensive economic development strategy. Technology can help stretch limited budgets and increase impact. Energy availability is becoming a major factor in economic growth decisions. Storytelling and digital presence are essential for showcasing community strengths. Creative solutions are required to attract both businesses and workforce in 2026 and beyond.
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DT #613 Community Banks and Economic Development: Why Local Relationships Still Matter
01/21/2026
DT #613 Community Banks and Economic Development: Why Local Relationships Still Matter
Community banks play a critical—yet often underappreciated—role in economic development. In this episode of Develop This!, the #1 podcast for economic development professionals, host sits down with , President and CEO of in Fort Madison, Iowa, to explore how community banking fuels local economies, supports small businesses, and strengthens rural communities. Matt shares his career journey from working at large financial institutions to leading a community bank and explains why relationship-based banking remains essential to sustainable economic development. Together, Dennis and Matt unpack how community banks serve as trusted partners for entrepreneurs, manufacturers, and local leaders—often stepping in where larger institutions cannot or will not. Key Takeaways Community banks support their communities in diverse and meaningful ways Strong relationships are the foundation of community banking Economic development depends on healthy, engaged local financial institutions Community banks often fill critical gaps for small and rural businesses Trust is essential to effective banking relationships Community banks are deeply involved in local economic development efforts Technology has changed how banks operate—but not the need for relationships Non-traditional competitors present new challenges for community banks Developing the next generation of leaders is key to community growth Better storytelling can improve understanding of the community bank model
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DT #615 The Future of Funding: How EDOs Can Thrive in an Uncertain 2026
01/21/2026
DT #615 The Future of Funding: How EDOs Can Thrive in an Uncertain 2026
Show Notes As part of the 2026 Crystal Ball Series, host sits down with , Principal at , to explore what lies ahead for economic development organization (EDO) funding as communities head toward 2026. With public funding under pressure and competition for private dollars increasing, this episode delivers a candid, practical conversation about risk management, revenue diversification, and leadership strategy. Andy draws on his national experience working alongside EDOs, chambers, and nonprofit organizations to explain why some communities will struggle—and why others will emerge stronger than ever. Dennis and Andy also reflect on the long-standing relationship between Develop This! and Convergent Nonprofit Solutions, highlighting shared values around leadership, transparency, and sustainable community investment. Listeners will gain insight into: Why waiting for funding clarity is no longer an option How strong investor relationships and communication can stabilize—or grow—budgets What EDO leaders must do to clearly articulate impact in a crowded funding environment How asking better questions can uncover hidden community capacity and opportunity Why organizations that lead with purpose and data will outperform those that rely on legacy funding models Key Takeaways Proactive leadership is essential to mitigating funding risk Diversifying revenue sources is no longer optional—it’s foundational Strong, authentic relationships drive fundraising success Clear communication of impact builds investor confidence Asking the right questions reveals new funding and partnership opportunities
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DT #610 Looking Ahead to 2026: Chris Lloyd - Economic Development Trends You Can’t Ignore
01/14/2026
DT #610 Looking Ahead to 2026: Chris Lloyd - Economic Development Trends You Can’t Ignore
As Develop This! kicks off its Crystal Ball series for 2026, host is joined by , Senior Vice President and Director of Infrastructure and Economic Development at , for a forward-looking conversation on the forces shaping the future of economic development in partnrship with the Chris brings a national perspective on how federal tax policy, state conformity, executive orders, and the growing affordability agenda are influencing site selection and investment decisions. The discussion explores why tools like immediate expensing of capital matter more than ever, how executive actions can accelerate permitting, and why affordability—especially housing—has become a central factor for companies choosing where to locate. The conversation also dives into evolving site selection criteria, from power availability and workforce readiness to speed-to-market pressures and the growing role of AI and data centers. Chris underscores that while megaprojects capture headlines, smaller, strategic wins are increasingly critical for community success. Throughout the episode, one theme stands out: economic development is a storytelling business. Chris explains why economic developers must clearly articulate their community’s value proposition while preparing for risk, disruption, and the unexpected. This episode offers practical insights and strategic foresight for community and economic development professionals preparing for 2026 and beyond. Key Takeaways Major trends—including AI and data centers—are reshaping economic development strategies Immediate expensing of capital remains a powerful incentive for project decisions State conformity with federal tax policy can be a decisive site selection factor Executive orders can significantly streamline permitting and project timelines Affordability is now a core consideration in corporate location decisions Public-private partnerships play a growing role in workforce and housing solutions Power, workforce, and speed to market remain essential site selection criteria Effective community storytelling is critical to winning investment Smaller, targeted projects are gaining importance alongside megaprojects Communities must have “break glass” contingency plans for emergencies and disruptions
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DT #609 Crystal Ball 2026: Leadership, Talent, and the Future of Economic Development with Danielle Casey
01/14/2026
DT #609 Crystal Ball 2026: Leadership, Talent, and the Future of Economic Development with Danielle Casey
As part of the Develop This! Crystal Ball Series kicking off 2026, host sits down with , President & CEO of the and incoming Board Chair, for a candid and forward-looking conversation on leadership, career evolution, and the future of economic development. Danielle shares insights from her career transition from Albuquerque to Las Vegas and reflects on how unplanned opportunities often shape meaningful leadership journeys. Together, Dennis and Danielle explore the evolving demands placed on economic development professionals—from rapid technological change and demographic shifts to workforce readiness and long-term strategic planning. The conversation also highlights the growing influence of women in economic development leadership, the critical role of mentorship, and the importance of listening as a leadership skill. Danielle underscores the need for trained, adaptable professionals, diversified local economies, and deeper community engagement to ensure the profession remains resilient and impactful. The episode closes with a look ahead to 2026, including Danielle’s priorities as incoming IEDC Board Chair and what economic developers must do now to stay energized, effective, and future-ready. Key Takeaways Mentorship is foundational to sustaining and strengthening the profession Economic developers must remain adaptable in rapidly changing environments Diversification is essential for long-term economic resilience Women are increasingly shaping leadership at all levels of economic development Listening is one of the most underrated—and vital—leadership skills Conferences and peer networks provide both professional insight and emotional support Tracking trends is no longer optional—it’s a core competency Burnout prevention is critical for long-term success The profession demands balance between immediate wins and long-term vision Training and education are key to developing the next generation of leaders
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DT #607 Crystal Ball 2026: Nathan Ohle on the Future of Economic Development, Leadership & IEDC at 100
01/07/2026
DT #607 Crystal Ball 2026: Nathan Ohle on the Future of Economic Development, Leadership & IEDC at 100
As part of the Develop This! Crystal Ball Series kicking off 2026, host sits down with , President & CEO of the , for a wide-ranging conversation on where the profession is headed—and how leaders can prepare for what’s next. Nathan shares insights from his extensive travels and conversations with economic developers across the country, highlighting how the role of the practitioner is evolving. From deeper engagement with rural communities to increased cross-sector collaboration, economic development is becoming more complex—and more impactful—than ever. The discussion also explores the significant transformation underway at IEDC since 2022, including a new membership model designed to lower barriers to participation, major investments in systems and infrastructure, and a renewed emphasis on listening to and elevating member voices. Nathan reflects on how feedback from practitioners has directly shaped these changes. Looking ahead, the conversation turns to the role of technology and AI as accelerators for economic development work, the importance of training and mentorship for the next generation of leaders, and what the IEDC’s 100th anniversary in 2026 represents for the organization and the profession as a whole. This episode offers a forward-looking, practitioner-focused perspective on leadership, transformation, and collaboration—making it a must-listen for anyone shaping the future of economic and community development. Key Takeaways Elevating the voices of economic development practitioners is essential for the profession’s future The role of economic developers is expanding through deeper collaboration with public, private, and nonprofit partners IEDC’s new membership model is reducing barriers and broadening engagement Member feedback has driven meaningful organizational transformation at IEDC AI is emerging as a powerful accelerator—not a replacement—for economic development work Mentorship and training are critical to developing the next generation of leaders Strategic investments in systems and infrastructure are improving member services IEDC’s 100th anniversary in 2026 marks a pivotal milestone for reflection and future vision Collaboration and partnerships will define success in the next era of economic development
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Dt #608 Crystal Ball 2026: Mark Perna on the Future of Workforce, Youth & Leadership
01/07/2026
Dt #608 Crystal Ball 2026: Mark Perna on the Future of Workforce, Youth & Leadership
As Develop This! kicks off 2026, host Dennis Fraise continues the Crystal Ball series with a timely and thought-provoking conversation with —generational expert, author of , speaker, and contributor. Together, Dennis and Mark explore how the workforce and education landscape has (and hasn’t) changed since Answering Why was published in 2018. They examine generational shifts, the widening skills and readiness gap, and the urgent need for visionary leadership across economic development, education, and workforce systems. Mark shares powerful insights on what young people are really asking for today, why inspiration and purpose matter more than ever, and how economic developers can better engage emerging talent. The conversation also dives into the accelerating impact of AI, the pace of change confronting communities, and the traits future-ready leaders and workers must develop to thrive. This episode challenges listeners to rethink traditional workforce strategies, elevate collaboration, and lead with optimism—because, as Mark reminds us, young people are extraordinary and capable of shaping a stronger economic future. Key Takeaways The workforce education landscape has seen surprisingly little substantive change since 2018 Workplace readiness, professionalism, and etiquette are growing challenges Young people are eager for inspiration, meaning, and honest conversations Visionary leadership is essential to drive collaboration and economic growth The accelerating pace of change demands adaptability and proactive leadership Workforce readiness remains low, highlighting a persistent skills gap Students face new challenges balancing hope and opportunity in a shifting job market AI will significantly reshape workforce dynamics and skill requirements Diversity, adaptability, and resilience will define future workforce success Young people are not the problem—they are the solution
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DT #615 Advocacy That Gets Projects Done: Working With Elected Officials
12/23/2025
DT #615 Advocacy That Gets Projects Done: Working With Elected Officials
In this episode of Develop This! host interviews President & CEO, former Mayor & IL State Representative, who shares hard-earned insights on how local leaders can advocate effectively with elected officials to get economic development projects across the finish line. Drawing on his experience as a city council member, mayor, and state representative, Kyle explains the practical realities that shape project outcomes, including timing, coalitions, data, and political context. They discuss: Why advocacy often comes too late—and how to avoid this pitfall. How elected officials evaluate project proposals and the importance of credibility. Navigating local budgets, rezoning, and the state legislative calendar. Making a clear, actionable “ask” and doing your homework beforehand. Building coalitions and fostering strong relationships with elected officials and their staff. Lessons from successful projects in other communities. Key Takeaways Advocacy often happens too late—start early and plan strategically. Understanding local government roles is crucial for effective engagement. Every community has unique priorities, timelines, and pressures. Preparation and data-backed proposals increase credibility. Building relationships with officials and staff is essential for project success. Timing—aligned with budget cycles and legislative calendars—can make or break a project. Personalized communication beats generic letters or emails. Learning from successful projects elsewhere strengthens your approach. Consistent engagement builds trust and long-term collaboration.
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DT #606 Leading So People Want to Follow: Board Leadership That Works
12/17/2025
DT #606 Leading So People Want to Follow: Board Leadership That Works
What truly makes an effective board chair in economic development? In this episode of Develop This!, the #1 economic development podcast, host sits down with , President of ., and , to explore the role of the board chair—and why influence matters more than authority. Drawing from decades of leading multi-generational, community-rooted businesses and serving as board chair for two economic development organizations, Bob shares hard-earned insights on leadership that earns trust, not compliance. He explains why the loudest voice in the room rarely leads to the best outcomes—and how listening, respect, and thoughtful decision-making create boards that function at their highest level. This conversation goes deep into the chair–CEO relationship, the board chair as a strategic sounding board, and how effective chairs set the tone, build leadership pipelines, and guide organizations through complex decisions. Bob also offers candid advice on common board pitfalls—and what new chairs need to understand on day one. Whether you’re a current board chair, an economic development CEO, a future CEO, or a future board leader, this episode delivers practical wisdom you can apply immediately. Key Topics & Themes Leadership through influence, not authority The evolving role of the board chair in economic development Building trust between the board chair and CEO Listening to diverse perspectives to drive better decisions Setting culture, tone, and expectations at the board level Developing future board and community leaders Key Takeaways People should follow leadership because they want to—not because they have to The loudest voice in the room is rarely the most effective Thoughtful leaders listen to all perspectives before deciding Respect is earned through preparation, fairness, and follow-through Strong board chairs make decisions everyone can respect—even when not everyone agrees Influence grows from credibility and trust, not titles
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DT #604 So Good They Can’t Ignore You: Building a Career That Matters - Mark Perna
12/10/2025
DT #604 So Good They Can’t Ignore You: Building a Career That Matters - Mark Perna
In this episode of host welcomes nationally recognized speaker and thought leader for a powerful conversation on career growth, motivation, and personal development. From the earliest stages of a career to seasoned leadership, Mark and Dennis explore what truly drives long-term success. The discussion dives into the importance of intentionally stepping outside your comfort zone, seeking meaningful mentorship, and committing to continuous self-improvement. Mark shares his personal journey as a public speaker—highlighting the setbacks, failures, and self-reflection that shaped his success—while Dennis underscores how resilience and adaptability are essential traits in economic development and beyond. Listeners will gain practical insight into how intrinsic motivation, collaboration, and lifelong learning fuel professional impact. The conversation also reinforces a critical truth: success is rarely a solo journey. Growth comes from learning from others, owning your failures, and staying passionate and authentic in your work. Whether you’re early in your career or a seasoned economic development professional, this episode offers thoughtful reminders—and actionable inspiration—on how to build a career that stands out, creates impact, and continues to evolve. Key Takeaways Do something every month that pushes you outside your comfort zone Growth starts with being comfortable with discomfort Public speaking is a learnable skill—not a fixed talent Mentorship accelerates both personal and professional development Self-reflection is essential for continuous improvement Failure becomes valuable when you learn from it Intrinsic motivation fuels lasting success Everyone’s career path is unique—own yours Collaboration is critical; no one succeeds alone Strive to be so good they can’t ignore you
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DT #605 From Tariffs to Talent: What’s Shaping Corporate Location Decisions Today
12/10/2025
DT #605 From Tariffs to Talent: What’s Shaping Corporate Location Decisions Today
In this episode of — Host sits down with , Managing Director at and a leading expert in location economics and site selection, for a timely conversation about how tariffs, policy volatility, and global uncertainty are reshaping corporate investment decisions. This episode is presented in partnership with the , highlighting how collaboration between economic developers and professional site selectors leads to better outcomes for communities and companies alike. Tracey shares insights from her work at BLS & Company, explaining why successful projects must create value on both sides of the deal table—and how site selection has evolved into a highly multidisciplinary practice. The discussion explores why data centers and life sciences remain the most active sectors, how corporations are reacting to unpredictable tariff policies, and what economic developers need to understand to stay competitive. From stockpiling strategies to rising labor costs, automation, and workforce constraints, this episode delivers practical, real-world perspective on corporate location strategy in today’s unpredictable trade environment. Tracey also emphasizes the growing role of the C-suite in navigating risk—and the importance of flexibility and adaptability for communities hoping to win transformative projects. Whether you’re an economic developer, site selector, or community leader, this episode offers critical insight into how deals are getting done—and what it takes to stay relevant in a constantly changing landscape. Takeaways BLS & Company specializes in location economics and site selection. Successful projects require value creation for both clients and communities. Site selection is a multidisciplinary field requiring diverse expertise. Data centers and life sciences are currently the most active sectors. Tariff policies are causing mixed reactions in investment decisions. Companies are employing strategies like stockpiling and warehousing. C-suite executives are crucial in navigating tariff-related decisions. Labor costs and automation are key considerations in site selection. Economic developers must maintain strong relationships with site selectors. Flexibility and adaptability are essential in the current economic climate.
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DT #602 From Talent to Sites: Virginia’s Blueprint for Economic Success
12/03/2025
DT #602 From Talent to Sites: Virginia’s Blueprint for Economic Success
Show Notes In this episode of , host sits down with , President and CEO of the , to explore how Virginia has earned — and maintained — its reputation as one of the best states for business. Jason shares how Virginia’s nonpartisan approach to economic development ensures continuity, focus, and accountability. He dives deep into the Virginia Talent Accelerator Program, a national model for workforce training that has helped attract global leaders like AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly. From site readiness to speed-to-market, Virginia’s economic playbook emphasizes agility, collaboration, and long-term talent development. Jason also discusses how the state is positioning itself for the industries of the future — including pharmaceutical manufacturing and artificial intelligence — all while doubling down on its goal to be America’s Top State for Talent. If you’re passionate about strategic, results-driven economic development, this episode offers a rare look inside a state model that works — and what other regions can learn from it. 💡 Key Takeaways Virginia’s nonpartisan structure provides stability and continuity across administrations. VEDP’s collaborative model drives accountability and innovation. Talent development and site readiness are the state’s top priorities. The Virginia Talent Accelerator Program has become a major recruitment tool. Speed and efficiency set Virginia apart in the competitive site selection process. Virginia continues to attract global investments from industry leaders such as AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly. The state is future-focused, targeting emerging sectors like pharma and AI. Virginia’s goal: to be America’s top state for talent — not just business.
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DT #603 Mentors, Milestones & Momentum: How Marsellas Williams Built His ED Career
12/03/2025
DT #603 Mentors, Milestones & Momentum: How Marsellas Williams Built His ED Career
Episode Overview In this inspiring episode of the Podcast, host Dennis Fraise reconnects with newly certified economic developer for a candid and energetic conversation about what it truly takes to grow in the economic development profession. Marsellas reflects on his personal journey—from entering the field in 2018 to overcoming the rigorous path toward earning his . He highlights the powerful role of mentorship, the importance of leaning into professional values and faith, and the real-life challenges that come with stepping into the world of community and economic development. Listeners will hear firsthand how Marsellas has become a catalyst for business retention and expansion in , where his work is fueling job creation and community vitality. He shares lessons learned, practical career advice, and the strategies that helped him thrive—both in the field and in life. Whether you're new to the profession or a seasoned practitioner, this episode delivers the guidance, encouragement, and insights you need to continue growing and leading in your community. Key Takeaways Marsellas launched his economic development career in 2018, fueled by curiosity and a desire to serve communities. Mentorship has been central to his development and success. The road to CEcD certification is challenging—but deeply rewarding. Faith and personal values shape Marcellus’s leadership style and decision-making. Strong business retention efforts remain one of the most effective paths to community job creation. Powder Springs, GA is experiencing dynamic growth driven by strategy and collaboration. Networking is essential for building credibility and opening doors in the profession. Relationships—not just projects—define long-term success in economic development. Preparing for certification requires discipline, planning, and intentional study. Looking ahead, Marsellas envisions leading a larger organization or leveraging his talents in the private sector.
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DT #601 Inside the Site Selectors Guild Partner Program: Jay Garner on Building Powerful EDO–Consultant Connections
11/26/2025
DT #601 Inside the Site Selectors Guild Partner Program: Jay Garner on Building Powerful EDO–Consultant Connections
Episode Overview In this episode of the Develop This! Podcast, host Dennis Fraise sits down with one of the most respected voices in economic development— of and a long-standing S member. Jay brings decades of experience in corporate location advisory work and economic strategy, offering listeners a deep dive into today’s site selection environment and the most pressing trends shaping business investment. A centerpiece of the conversation is the , an innovative initiative designed to strengthen connections between site selection consultants and economic development organizations. As a proud partner of the Site Selectors Guild, Develop This! continues to highlight leading voices and provide economic developers with insider-level access to the industry’s most influential practitioners. Jay also discusses the trajectory of his firm, the unusually high volume of activity in sectors like food and beverage, and why certifications continue to matter. He wraps by sharing insights from the second edition of his widely acclaimed book, , which has now surpassed 10,000 copies sold. Whether you're an emerging EDO professional or a seasoned leader, this is a must-listen conversation packed with strategy, context, and candid wisdom. Key Takeaways Garner Economics specializes in corporate location advisory services and economic development strategy, serving both communities and private-sector clients. The current site selection landscape is exceptionally active, with robust movement particularly in the food and beverage industries. The Site Selectors Guild was founded to foster collaboration, ethical standards, and a collegial environment among vetted site selection professionals. The new Guild Partner Program provides curated, high-impact networking opportunities exclusively for economic development organizations. Participation in the program enhances visibility by giving EDOs featured profiles on the Guild’s website, placing them in front of active site selection consultants. Guild partners gain access to exclusive VIP networking events, creating meaningful and direct connections with Guild members. The Site Selectors Guild maintains an exceptionally high retention rate, underscoring the value members find in the organization. Jay emphasizes the continued importance of certifications as a signal of professionalism and commitment within the economic development field. His book, Economic Development is Still Not for Amateurs, is designed to help community leaders, elected officials, and stakeholders understand the realities of economic development work. The book’s second edition has sold over 10,000 copies, a testament to its impact and relevance.
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DT #599 How Research FDI is Transforming Investment Attraction for EDOs
11/19/2025
DT #599 How Research FDI is Transforming Investment Attraction for EDOs
In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , Founder and CEO of , to explore how technology, AI, and global trends are reshaping the future of investment attraction. Bruce shares his personal journey and lessons learned from years of helping communities and economic development organizations (EDOs) compete in a rapidly evolving global marketplace. From AI-powered tools like FDI 365 to training programs that strengthen EDO outreach, Bruce highlights the strategies that separate high-performing organizations from the rest. Listeners will gain insights into: Why a clear investment attraction plan is essential for success How smaller communities can leverage their unique assets The growing role of AI and data analytics in investment outreach How to measure success beyond leads—through site visits and job creation The importance of diversity, inclusion, and global perspective in building competitive teams Whether you’re leading a regional partnership or managing a local EDO, this conversation delivers actionable takeaways to elevate your investment attraction efforts and prepare for what’s next. 🔑 Key Takeaways Investment attraction starts with a strategic, community-aligned plan Technology and AI are transforming how EDOs identify and pursue opportunities Smaller communities can win by focusing on their distinctive strengths Research FDI equips EDOs with tools, training, and insights to compete globally FDI 365 helps streamline lead management and relationship tracking Diversity and inclusion drive innovation and strengthen global competitiveness True success in economic development is measured by site visits and job creation, not just leads Contact Research FDI for a free consultation:
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DT #600 Building Trust in AI: Why Guardrails and Human Oversight Matter
11/19/2025
DT #600 Building Trust in AI: Why Guardrails and Human Oversight Matter
💡 Episode Summary In the final installment of the Develop This! AI series, host is joined by and for an in-depth conversation on developing a comprehensive AI strategy framework for organizations of all sizes. Together, they unpack the critical need for guardrails that ensure ethical and effective AI use, the importance of human oversight, and the dangers of shadow AI—when employees use unapproved tools without governance. The discussion highlights data privacy, ethical AI boundaries, and organizational alignment, providing leaders with a practical blueprint for implementing lightweight AI governance. Whether you’re leading a small team or managing a large organization, this episode offers real-world insights to help you balance innovation, compliance, and trust. 🚀 Key Takeaways Every organization—no matter its size—needs clear AI guardrails. Guardrails ensure AI adoption remains safe, ethical, and effective. Human oversight is vital to verify AI-generated results. Establish policies that discourage shadow AI and unauthorized tool use. Team involvement in AI policy development fosters buy-in and accountability. 80% of AI tools are failing due to improper implementation. Always check references and sources when using AI for research. Protect your organization by prioritizing data privacy and IP security. Set clear ethical boundaries for AI-generated content. A well-defined AI strategy drives innovation aligned with organizational goals.
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DT #597 The Hidden Costs of Toxic Leadership
11/12/2025
DT #597 The Hidden Costs of Toxic Leadership
💡 Episode Summary In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , a national thought leader on workforce, education, and generational engagement, for a deep dive into one of the most damaging forces in any organization—toxic leadership. Together, Dennis and Mark unpack the growing disengagement crisis in today’s workforce and explore the concept of the “Toxaboss”—a leader who demands high performance but fails to offer recognition or connection. They discuss how toxic behaviors erode trust, destroy morale, and ripple through entire organizations, especially within community and economic development teams. Mark shares actionable strategies for reversing toxicity through self-reflection, gratitude, and consistent recognition—even when leaders can’t control pay or promotions. The conversation wraps with insights into generational expectations and a powerful reminder that leading people is both a privilege and a responsibility. 🧭 Key Takeaways Toxic bosses are a major driver of employee disengagement. Recognition is the foundation of a healthy leadership culture. Leaders must invest in trust, connection, and consistency. Self-reflection is essential to prevent becoming a “Toxaboss.” Toxicity at the top spreads quickly—and costs deeply. Employees who feel seen and appreciated are far more engaged. Even without control over pay, leaders can influence culture. Gratitude and recognition are power multipliers in leadership. Building a recognition culture enhances performance and retention. Leadership is a privilege, not a position of entitlement.
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DT #598 Iowa’s Innovative Answer to Housing Shortages and Second Chances
11/12/2025
DT #598 Iowa’s Innovative Answer to Housing Shortages and Second Chances
🏠 Show Notes In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , Executive Director of SEIRPC and President of the Homes for Iowa Board of Directors, and , Executive Director of . Together, they share how an innovative Iowa initiative is tackling two of the state’s most pressing challenges—affordable housing and workforce development—while also giving incarcerated individuals a second chance. Built on a powerful public-private partnership with , Homes for Iowa trains men at the Newton, IA Correctional Facility in construction trades while building high-quality, affordable homes that are then moved to communities across the state. Since launching in 2019, the program has:✅ Constructed and moved over 150 homes to 50 Iowa counties✅ Helped reduce recidivism by providing meaningful job training and purpose✅ Filled a crucial gap in the affordable housing market✅ Earned strong community support and positive feedback statewide Mike and David discuss how the program came to life, what they’ve learned along the way, and their vision for the future—including expanding production capacity and creating an alumni foundation for program graduates. Whether you’re an economic developer, housing professional, or community leader, this episode delivers powerful lessons on innovation, collaboration, and human impact—a true model for other states to follow. 🔑 Key Takeaways Homes for Iowa provides affordable homes while training incarcerated men in building trades. The initiative helps reduce recidivism and strengthens Iowa’s workforce pipeline. 150+ homes have already been placed in 50 counties across Iowa. Community feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. The program’s public-private partnership with Iowa Prison Industries is central to its success. Future goals include expanding operations and creating a support network for alumni. Homes for Iowa serves as a replicable model for other states facing similar challenges.
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DT #595 Workforce at a Crossroads: Compete, Adapt, and Thrive — with Jay Garner, Site Selectors Guild
11/05/2025
DT #595 Workforce at a Crossroads: Compete, Adapt, and Thrive — with Jay Garner, Site Selectors Guild
💡 Episode Summary In this episode of , host sits down with , President of and a founding member of the , to tackle one of the biggest challenges in economic development today—the workforce crisis. Jay and Dennis dig into the realities behind the “silver tsunami” as millions of baby boomers near retirement, explore the widening skills gap, and discuss how quality of place now drives business investment decisions. They also examine how immigration, technology, and regional collaboration are reshaping workforce dynamics—and what communities can do to stay competitive. Whether you’re leading a local EDO, working in workforce strategy, or trying to attract industry to your region, this episode delivers timely insights on how to pivot and prepare for what’s next. 🔑 Key Takeaways Workforce is the #1 concern for economic developers and site selectors. The “silver tsunami”—20% of the workforce nearing retirement—will redefine labor markets. Investment follows talent, and talent follows quality of place. Communities must enhance livability and amenities to attract and retain workers. Immigration is vital to sustaining labor force growth. Technology continues to reshape job demand and skill requirements. Retention is the new recruitment—keeping your existing workforce is a win. Collaboration between local industry, education, and government is essential for lasting solutions.
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DT #596 Navigating IEDC’s 2026 Course Catalog: What’s New and What’s Next
11/05/2025
DT #596 Navigating IEDC’s 2026 Course Catalog: What’s New and What’s Next
🎧 Episode Summary In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , Learning & Development Associate with the , to explore the evolving world of professional development in economic development. From IEDC’s new to the rise of virtual training and the importance of certification and continuous learning, Lynn shares a behind-the-scenes look at how IEDC equips professionals with the tools, skills, and confidence to thrive in a rapidly changing field. The conversation covers how courses are designed for immediate, real-world application, the impact of networking and peer learning, and how becoming an IEDC instructor can be a natural next step in leadership. Whether you’re a new practitioner or a seasoned pro, this episode will inspire you to take charge of your learning journey. 💡 Key Takeaways IEDC provides a complete pathway for economic developers at every stage of their careers. Courses focus on practical application—tools and strategies you can use the next day. Networking remains a cornerstone of professional growth and knowledge sharing. Certification pathways are built around IEDC’s core competencies. Partnerships enrich the learning experience and expand access to expertise. Virtual learning requires new engagement strategies—and IEDC is leading the way. Instructors bring real-world experience and case studies to life in the classroom. Continuous learning keeps professionals ahead in a dynamic, fast-evolving field. Emerging trends include skills-first hiring and greater use of data-driven insights. The best time to plan your professional development? Right now.
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DT #593 How GrantGuru Helps Communities Compete for Funding
10/29/2025
DT #593 How GrantGuru Helps Communities Compete for Funding
In this episode of Develop This!, host sits down with , Co-Founder and Director of , the world’s largest aggregator of grants and funding programs. Together, they explore how Grant Guru is transforming the way communities, local governments, and nonprofits access funding opportunities. Adrian shares his unlikely journey from geology to grant funding, the evolution of GrantGuru into a global grants intelligence platform, and how its technology helps simplify and democratize access to more than 163,000 active grants worth over $3.5 trillion. Listeners will learn how economic developers can leverage GrantGuru to identify relevant programs, support local businesses and nonprofits, and strategically use grants as a tool for long-term community growth. Adrian and Dennis also dive into the challenge of keeping grant data current, designing user-friendly tools, and the importance of pairing funding with strategic thinking and local impact. Whether you’re a small-town economic developer or part of a regional organization, this conversation offers practical insights into how technology can make the complex world of grants more accessible, transparent, and effective. Key Takeaways Adrian Spencer’s unconventional path from geologist to grant funding expert Grant Guru aggregates over 163,000 grants valued at $3.5 trillion worldwide The platform’s mission: democratize access to funding for all communities How economic developers can simplify and streamline grant searches The importance of strategic alignment between grants and community goals Insights into how technology and data power modern grant discovery Why maintaining accurate, up-to-date information is key for success Grant funding as a lever for community empowerment and resilience Download our free White Paper here (by providing a name/email): Mention that you heard about on Develop This! and receive a 20% discount
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DT #594 The Power of Place and Pride: Celebrating Filipino American History Month
10/29/2025
DT #594 The Power of Place and Pride: Celebrating Filipino American History Month
In this inspiring episode of Develop This!, host sits down with her sister, Christine Cuartero, Co-Director of the , to explore how cultural heritage can shape stronger communities and local economies. October marks , a time to honor the resilience, creativity, and contributions of Filipino Americans across generations. Joi and Christine discuss how celebrating heritage is more than preserving tradition; it’s an act of community-building, identity, and empowerment. From the diverse neighborhood of Albany Park in Chicago, Christine shares the story of how a group of Pinay mothers in education came together to found a school rooted in bayanihan (collective spirit), kapwa (shared humanity), and cultural pride. Together, they discuss how cultural education fosters belonging, how immigrant stories shape the economic and social fabric of neighborhoods, and how investing in heritage is a powerful strategy for local revitalization. In this episode: The significance of Filipino American History Month and why representation matters. The story behind the Filipino School of Chicago, founded by a group of Pinay educators to preserve culture, language, and pride for the next generation. How Albany Park’s diversity is both a cultural and economic asset. How cultural spaces foster belonging and retention, key factors in economic development. The role of heritage-based entrepreneurship and cultural businesses in driving local vitality. Why bayanihan, the Filipino spirit of collective effort, mirrors the principles of successful community and economic development. Practical ways economic developers can partner with immigrant-led and cultural organizations to strengthen inclusivity and representation in local economies. Daughter of immigrants from Orani, Bataan and Quezon City, Christine C is an educator and community organizer with over a decade of service across public school settings and neighborhoods in Chicago and New York City. Committed to equity and civic engagement, she’s worked with organizations like El Puente (NYC) and the National Center for Urban Education of Illinois State University (Chicago) to connect community based organizations with schools, lead service-learning initiatives, and mentor future educators. Christine is a Chicago Public Schools leader and parent, and co-founder of the Filipino School of Chicago. She currently works as a case manager at a CPS elementary school.
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DT #592 Navigating Leadership Transitions in Economic Development
10/22/2025
DT #592 Navigating Leadership Transitions in Economic Development
1 In this episode of Develop This!, host Dennis Fraise sits down with , the President and CEO of the (LCEDG)—the very role Dennis once held. Together, they explore the realities of leadership transition, organizational change, and the evolution of community-focused economic development. Emily shares her non-linear career journey into the field, how a strategic overlap period helped ensure a smooth handoff, and what it’s been like stepping into leadership of a small but impactful economic development organization. From navigating board dynamics and community expectations to fostering team trust and strategic growth, this episode offers an honest and practical look at what it takes to lead and evolve within the ever-changing world of community and economic development. Key Takeaways Leadership transitions require planning, patience, and trust to succeed. An overlap period can help both outgoing and incoming leaders align on priorities and culture. Board relationships and clear communication are essential for stability and success. Economic development leadership means balancing community expectations with organizational capacity. Adaptability and quick thinking are vital in a small EDO environment. Support from a committed board and engaged stakeholders makes all the difference. Understanding the organization’s history and community context builds credibility and confidence.
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DT #590 Next-Gen Leadership: How Young Professionals Are Shaping Small-Town Revivals
10/15/2025
DT #590 Next-Gen Leadership: How Young Professionals Are Shaping Small-Town Revivals
What does it mean to be a young leader in economic development today? In this episode, Develop This! contributing correspondent sits down with , & Economic Development Director, to explore the realities, opportunities, and challenges of leading in a small community. From his start as a city administrator to his current role championing Centerville’s revitalization, Chandler shares his insights on navigating leadership at a young age, building credibility, and turning limited resources into creative momentum. Together, they discuss how young professionals are reshaping the field, why patience and progress often go hand in hand, and how Main Street continues to serve as the heartbeat of community identity and pride. In this episode, you’ll learn: Chandler’s unconventional journey into public service and economic development The value and perspective young leaders bring to the profession—and the hurdles they face How smaller communities can leverage scarcity to spark innovation and collaboration Why “boomerang” residents are vital to sustaining local leadership How Main Street captures the true soul of a community What the next chapter of small-town economic development might look like
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DT #591 Empowering Staff with AI: Inclusive AI Training Strategies
10/15/2025
DT #591 Empowering Staff with AI: Inclusive AI Training Strategies
In this episode of the Develop This! Podcast, is joined by and for the third installment in a four-part series on building an AI blueprint. They dive into the essential role of workforce upskilling in successful AI adoption, explaining why AI training must extend beyond technical teams to prevent the creation of a two-tier workforce. The discussion highlights how inclusive AI training not only builds employee skills but also boosts morale, engagement, and organizational growth. Listeners will gain actionable strategies for empowering employees, leveraging AI to amplify human strengths, and involving staff in identifying opportunities for AI implementation. The episode also explores quick wins that spark awareness, the evolving roles of AI in economic development organizations, and practical ways to integrate AI into a broader workforce development strategy. Key Takeaways: Upskilling the entire workforce is essential for successful AI adoption. Selective training risks creating a two-tiered workforce. AI enhances human capabilities and engagement—it doesn’t replace people. Inclusive training fosters morale, ownership, and organizational alignment. Staff input is critical for identifying AI opportunities that add real value. Automating repetitive tasks frees humans for higher-value work. Understanding AI tools amplifies unique human strengths. Economic development organizations play a role in broader community AI education. Quick wins in AI training build awareness and momentum. Future-ready employees will work alongside AI copilots to achieve more.
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DT #588 Key Trends from the 2025 State of Site Selection Annual Report
10/08/2025
DT #588 Key Trends from the 2025 State of Site Selection Annual Report
In this episode of the Develop This! podcast, host Dennis Fraise dives into the newly released 2025 State of Site Selection annual report with guests from the and from . Together, they unpack the trends shaping facility location decisions and explore their implications for economic and community development professionals. From the growing weight of risk factors such as policy shifts and tariffs to the pressing need for ready sites with robust infrastructure, the conversation explores how organizations can prepare for an increasingly complex site selection landscape. They also discuss the rising importance of reputation, including how community pushback can derail projects, and why proactive community engagement is now a must-have strategy. Whether you’re working to attract new investment or help your community stay competitive, this episode delivers practical insights grounded in real-world data from the Guild’s annual report. Key Takeaways: The Site Selectors Guild has published the State of Site Selection report annually since 2024. Risk—particularly in areas such as policy, tariffs, and uncertainty—is shaping decisions. Readiness—infrastructure, utilities, and shovel-ready sites—remains essential. Reputation and local pushback can create major hurdles for projects. Community engagement is critical to addressing concerns and building support. The report provides a clear and shareable resource for stakeholders. Site selectors are modeling multiple scenarios to help clients navigate uncertainty. Enhancing quality of life is key to attracting and retaining talent.
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