Doing (good) Business
There’s a whole new world of business – good business. Discover the insights, strategies, and tools that will help you do good business today, because it’s possible, profitable, and packed with opportunity.
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88 - Kirsten Tobey, Chief Impact Officer of Revolution Foods
06/20/2022
88 - Kirsten Tobey, Chief Impact Officer of Revolution Foods
42 million Americans are food insecure (1 in 8 Americans, 1 in 6 kids in America). Kirsten Tobey co-founded to impact that. Food security is a driver for the economy, as well as a force for good for community wellness, and it’s clear that Revolution Foods (a B Corp and Public Benefit Corp) is doing good business - in 15 states and counting! Hear about their Impact metrics, both internal and external: -internal - diversity, employment factors, job creation -external - % kids served qualify for free lunch, etc. When your team has values alignment + diverse leadership & diversity of thought, you get one powerful combination from a company making big impact in the world
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87 - Shannon Goldberg on Obsessive Reusing
06/06/2022
87 - Shannon Goldberg on Obsessive Reusing
Plastic is a huge problem in every market, and is taking it on in the cosmetics market. Founded after being laid off during the pandemic, is a beauty company whose products are 100% reusable, 100% recyclable, 100% certified carbon neutral, and 100% gorgeous! We talk with the founder, who refers to herself as the Chief Zero Waste Officer, about how IZZY is not only disrupting the beauty industry, but is using business to make the world better. At a time when we’re rapidly approaching plastic and fish being at a 1:1 ratio in the ocean, everyone has a part - and how you show is a bit part of helping the environment. Some advice that resonated: “We’re all like salmon swimming upstream…hold onto what’s true.” Shannon graciously offered our listeners a discount! Use code IzzyFF20 at checkout for 20% off!
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86 - Don Finley on DAOs, business, and spirituality
05/23/2022
86 - Don Finley on DAOs, business, and spirituality
Don Finley is an entrepreneur who, through his own journey (which includes climbing Kilimanjaro and an impromptu trip to Peru), has blended spirituality and business. Founder of and now , Don explains complicated concepts like DAOs (decentralized autonomous organizations) to us, with his wonderful storytelling ability. Our favorite moments include: “Building a business is one of the best exercises in self development” “Things were looking great on paper and I was somewhat miserable…this is everything I have ever asked for …and at the same time I really want off this train” “When team members needed to take time for their family…it wasn’t about swallowing your tongue and getting the job done” “It pays dividends every day to take care of yourself and then come into the business” Oh, and he totally debunks the old adage of “never working with friends” Want to connect with Don? Reach him at [email protected]
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85 - A surprisingly good business!
05/09/2022
85 - A surprisingly good business!
Life insurance can be good business? It sure can! Meet Carey Earle, President of - not your grandparents’ life insurance company. Learn about Bluestone - they’re a , , AND member (!); how Carey’s personal values overlap with Bluestone’s, and how she prioritized those values when finding her next career move (and ended up at a company whose mission includes protecting community and planet). Throw in a couple of great quotes: “Education is expensive, no matter how you get it.” – Ernest Leigh Earle, Carey’s grandfather, a Vermont dairy farmer and sage “Mistakes are gemstones that help us become better people” -Carey Earle …and you’ve got another powerful example of doing (good) business!
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84 - Altruize
04/25/2022
84 - Altruize
Did you know that service hours, either in companies, or in the community (think about HS and college folks) are not tracked in any standardized way? Today’s guest knew that, and created an App to solve that problem! In honor of National Volunteer Month (thanks, Kelly!), we’re happy to introduce you to Nicole, Sdao, the founder of - the FitBit for altruism! Things we loved: Employees who participate in their own volunteering, are more engaged at work A 100% no is better than a 50% yes Standardizing the service hours folks complete help make college admissions more equitable than the current self-reporting system
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83 - Love as a Biz Strategy BOOK GIVEAWAY!
04/11/2022
83 - Love as a Biz Strategy BOOK GIVEAWAY!
Thanks so much to Mohammad Anwar and Frank Danna for sending us autographed copies of Love as a Business Strategy, to gift to 2 lucky listeners! To enter, do these 3 easy things: Follow on or (or both if you really LOVE us!) Leave us a rating & review of the podcast on whatever podcast app you use to listen to us (unless you don't love us!) A We will accept entries until the end of April, and then select a winner and announce in early May! You'll be notified via email and announced in our early May podcast episode. Grab a pen and paper to get started on making love your business strategy before you even get the book! Missed the first interview? We've got you covered: And, in a fun surprise, Kelly celebrates :-)
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82 - No Mud, No Lotus
03/28/2022
82 - No Mud, No Lotus
The beautiful Lotus What if the most beautiful businesses come from the most challenging times? The certainly exemplified that. Lotus flowers are a spiritual symbol of resilience, and Kelly reminds us of the 4Cs of resilence: be curious, creative, compassionate, confident. Hat tip to for the idea for this episode! Curious about some more after the mud? Listen in as we share stories from: And others who are designed to give back:
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81 - Love as a Business Strategy
03/14/2022
81 - Love as a Business Strategy
What happens when your company is in financial trouble, needs to do a significant layoff, and everyone is struggling? You put love at the center, of course! Sound crazy? Not to us. D(g)B welcomes Mohammad Anwar & Frank Danna of , and now . Oh, and they also wrote a book about Listen to hear: How love took the company from the brink of financial failure to thriving, and launched a 2nd company, and a book! How sports, and 1 football game in particular, lead Mohammad to completely change into a culture of love The changes with the biggest impact were the smallest things like bringing a coffee for someone or writing a thank you note. Culture isn’t the perks & benefits, it’s the way we behave with each other How Mohammad learned that react and respond aren’t synonyms but that they’re actually worlds apart And yes, they built a tool to measure it! The Culture Counter tool measures the experience people are having around the 6 pillars of a culture of love (inclusion, empowerment, forgiveness, vulnerability, trust, empathy) and ties those metrics to KPIs. ...because "behaviors are the bottom line” - Mohammad Anwar
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80 - Return on Energy
02/28/2022
80 - Return on Energy
Welcome to a very special episode of Doing (good) Business! In honor of Kelly's love of the Deathbed Confessions podcast, we bring you Doing (good) Business ala true crime! We've got a great story, a juicy plot, a heroine, and a whole lot of good business. Join us and have some fun! Links mentioned:
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79 - Awareness, stakeholder capitalism, and love
02/14/2022
79 - Awareness, stakeholder capitalism, and love
“Stakeholder capitalism is not about politics. It is not a social or ideological agenda. It is not ‘woke,’” Fink said. “It is capitalism, driven by mutually beneficial relationships between you and the employees, customers, suppliers, and communities your company relies on to prosper. This is the power of capitalism.” "Employees need to understand and connect with your purpose; and when they do, they can be your staunchest advocates." Kelly and Lara dive into . We talk shareholders versus stakeholders - Lara gets them confused, and then we do what we do on D(g)B, and we dig in and make them good! We’ve got a challenge for everyone, to bring love and make the world better through business, this week, and we hope you LOVE our new look! Episodes mentioned:
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78 - Tony Woods
01/31/2022
78 - Tony Woods
D(g)B welcomes the Director and Head of Talent for Schmidt Futures - the philanthropic initiative created by former Google CEO Eric Schmidt. He recruits engineers, authors, Ph.D. scientists, program administrators, etc and has helped pilot a program to source talent for critical government roles in the tech space, and created partnerships to elevate the talent of young people around the world. And there's SO much more to Tony, like how he was impacted by "don't ask, don't tell" and his newest endeavor with the Quad Fellowship in the Biden Whitehouse. Tony's top traits of leaders who do DEI well are curiosity, empathy, and brave conversations - you know we love those! Episodes mentioned:
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77 - Season 4 Premiere!
01/17/2022
77 - Season 4 Premiere!
Kelly and Lara are back and are fired up about seeing the opportunities in the world of business! As always, here are some great tidbits & takeaways:
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76 - Family business, personal leadership, and more with Nike Anani
05/31/2021
76 - Family business, personal leadership, and more with Nike Anani
Even if your business isn’t a family business, you need to hear from Nike Anani. Nike is a consultant, family business therapist at times, and one of the top 100 Family Business Consultants in the world. A few of the things we loved: How are you being in your business is a much more important question than what are you doing in your business. You don’t emerge as a leader, you practice it. You don’t emerge as a visionary, you practice it. We laughed, we had “wow!” moments, and we got off track in all the best ways. We can’t think of a better way to finish up our third season than with this conversation. Nike shares why she moved back to Nigeria after spending most of her life in London, how working with her dad in the family business changed her in ways she never expected, and what we can all learn from family businesses and how they exist in the world (hint: in Nike’s experience, they’re very rarely focused on profit-over-all.) Key concepts: Clarity Communication Collaboration: Nike’s 3 Cs for success in family businesses (ahem, or any business or team!) Past Present Future: the Past led us to where we are today & it’s important to understand history, we need to work in the Present to guide the future, and we need a vision of the Future to understand what we’re working toward. Learn more about Nike at / and check out her podcast,
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75 - Blending Leadership and Advocacy with Anthony Hayes
05/17/2021
75 - Blending Leadership and Advocacy with Anthony Hayes
Anthony Hayes is the Founder and President of , an LGBTQ+ owned and operated public affairs firm based in NYC, and he joins Kelly and Lara to talk about the intersection of advocacy and leadership, and so much more! We know that inclusivity means different things to different people and Anthony gives us his definition (hint: it all starts with awareness!) and reminds the most well-intentioned leaders to take a breath before you take action. What are some business practices that work? Kelly’s tracking-loving heart lit up when Anthony shared his experience on this one! Anthony helps Lara question an assumption and she is so glad to be wrong. We talk about transparency, authenticity, trust and the battle against misinformation - in addition to the what happens when the urgent rushes out the important, the perils of the 24 hour news cycle, and Anthony’s #1 tip to people or orgs in a crisis. What gives someone who does crisis management & communication for a living hope? Stay tuned to the end to hear Anthony’s truly meaningful response. is a boutique, certified LGBTQ-owned and operated public affairs and strategic communications firm that helps organizations, leaders, and candidates focus on the issues that will advance their mission and better position them in the broader political, business, entertainment, or philanthropic landscape.
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74 - Leading By Example with Matt Tinney
05/03/2021
74 - Leading By Example with Matt Tinney
What happens when the CEO of a company has a personal awakening? Turns out, the answer is a whole lot of good business. D(g)B is thrilled to welcome Matt Tinney to the show. Matt is the Founder & Chairman of , a Microsoft solutions partner, and on Labor Day 2020, Matt became incredibly ill. A month later when he started coming out of it, everything changed - including his company. Matt did what few Founders would do, and he stepped down as CEO, promoting his then EVP Vickie Moore to CEO, and assuming the role of founder & chairman. He also made WME a culture first organization, wrote an ethics clause into their contract, and implemented 401K matching. What’s the business result? You probably already have a hunch! People can get a paycheck anywhere, but not every company genuinely cares about the employees at a human level. This was one of the most vulnerable conversations we’ve had, and Matt is truly an inspiring leader. Connect with him on LinkedIn:
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73 - Changing Feedback from Measure & Assess to Grow & Improve with Glade Holman
04/19/2021
73 - Changing Feedback from Measure & Assess to Grow & Improve with Glade Holman
If you have ever given or received feedback, listen in! There’s endless advice on giving feedback - how to do it, when to do it, how to coach instead of scold, etc...but there’s not a ton of info out there on receiving feedback - until now! Enter Glade Holman and . Yes, we talk about giving feedback, and perhaps more importantly, we talk about receiving feedback. Whether you’re a people leader, business owner, spouse or friend, knowing how to receive feedback can truly be life changing. As Glade says, if you can get that one tool, you can get anything. Glad is the Managing Director of and he knocked our socks off when he shared this, “Changing feedback from measure and assess to grow and improve.” BOOM! Mic dropped. Connect with Glade on LinkedIn:
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72 - Organizational Self-Management with Doug Kirkpatrick
04/05/2021
72 - Organizational Self-Management with Doug Kirkpatrick
Can you imagine a workplace without management structure and titles, and that talks about love? Doug Kirkpatrick can, and does, particularly at , as well as in other teams & organizations he describes to Kelly & Lara. It's called Organizational Self-Management and there are 2 simple principles: No Coercion and Keep Commitments. Try this definition of work: creating value for another human being. If that was your definition, how would that impact your leadership and organization? Our mic drop moment: Bureaucracy is designed to destroy accountability. Doug shared SO many fantastic resources: software of Coca Cola Happiness Institute ? Fast Company article by Matthew B. Crawford by Ian Robertson by Ricardo Semler video on YouTube podcast Find and check out (The No Limits Enterprise, Beyond Empowerment, and more)
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71 - Carol Mitchell, author of Collaboration Code
03/22/2021
71 - Carol Mitchell, author of Collaboration Code
From self-awareness to #MeToo, Carol brings it all to this episode and we are here for it! Her first book, , got our attention, and her second book, , is unbelievably timely. Carol shares what her research revealed and a blueprint for men who want to become more collaborative leaders. Thinking about the shifts all leaders and workplaces have encountered in the last year, collaboration has taken a hit. Start getting it back with this episode. Our biggest takeaway might be this simple statement: Look at people as a leading indicator; finances are a lagging indicator. Books: Company: Connect: Social: &
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70 - Amy Lynn Durham on Creating Magic at Work!
03/08/2021
70 - Amy Lynn Durham on Creating Magic at Work!
In honor of Women's History Month, D(g)B welcomes the first of 2 amazing women! Meet Amy Lynn Durham, who takes us one step beyond Emotional Intelligence, into the realm of Spiritual Intelligence (SQ). As a “Corporate Mystic”, she shares how to foster SQ in the workplace through unique and effective strategies she's described in her new book, “Create Magic At Work”. What in the world is SQ? Amy uses Cindy Wigglesworth's definition, which is, "the ability to maintain inner and outer peace regardless of the situations." It's faith neutral, and helps us to see our interconnectedness, and step more deeply into empathy. Amy shared some really accessible practices that can be used to increase a team or organization's SQ. Other notes we took: (HBR) is as dangerous as smoking 15 cigarettes a day "Selectively data driven" executive sticks with what they’re comfortable with, which is why change often doesn't happen 's recent Tweet: Leaders are paid for their judgment, not their stamina. “Powering through” is not a sustainable quality for leadership – it’s ultimately a recipe for failure. Be a magic maker and learn more about SQ21 at
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69 - Jeff Harry on Play at Work!
02/22/2021
69 - Jeff Harry on Play at Work!
We can all use more play in our lives - especially right now - and our guest today brings just that! Jeff Harry helps companies play more. You read that right! Think play, leadership, and bottom line results aren’t related? Think again! Jeff’s work helps leaders pursue a future where the fun is, that is how they can navigate uncertainty and address problems head-on while creating a psychologically safe work environment. He combines positive psychology and play to help organizations and individuals address their most challenging issues - like office politics, toxicity in the workplace, and many more. Jeff has been recognized as one of the Top 100 HR Influencers of 2020 by Engagedly and BambooHR, and recently had his work featured in the We really needed this time with Jeff, and know you’ll walk away feeling lighter and with tangible ways to add more play into your work. Connect with Jeff and click Let’s Play!
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68 - Carley Hauck, Founder of Leading from Wholeness
02/08/2021
68 - Carley Hauck, Founder of Leading from Wholeness
Carley Hauck, Founder of has a new book, , coming out in February 2021 on conscious leadership and businesses. Shine highlights the way that anyone who feels called to lead can cultivate the qualities of consciousness on the inside and help to build a workplace and world that works for everyone and is living in greater harmony with the planet. In the book, Carley showcases 9 conscious leaders whom she has served who are really prioritizing people and planet as central to their businesses mission and making quite a positive wave of goodness as a result. Carley shares a sneak peek into 1 of those conscious leader case studies with us, and so much more! Notable leadership moments: ...Founder and CEO of Ecoware By the Numbers: Want more from Carley? Hop onto her for info on her free events and on February 23rd!
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67 - Erin Jernigan, CEO & Co-Founder of Victory Supply Chain Services, on Group Grow program
01/25/2021
67 - Erin Jernigan, CEO & Co-Founder of Victory Supply Chain Services, on Group Grow program
Think personal development programs for employees is a “big company” thing or a “fancy startup/West Coast” mentality? Think again! Erin Jernigan, CEO & Co-founder of and team members Brandon George & Mary Anne DeCosta join Kelly & Lara to talk about Erin brought into her organization after experiencing the value of working with her own personal coach. There’s so much goodness in this episode - from how the idea came to Erin (and how she got support to implement it), to Brandon & Mary Anne’s feelings about participating in something like this (which, by the way, happens after work AND during a pandemic), and so much more. We get into what Group Grow is, how it’s going, and how it fit into . Bottom line? You have to be a leader who cares about their team to make a program like this work - and if you are, it will make the organization even stronger.
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66 - Finding Opportunity in Challenge & Change
01/18/2021
66 - Finding Opportunity in Challenge & Change
Grab a pen and paper for this episode! After the violence at the US Capitol on January 6th, Kelly called Lara with an idea for a bonus episode. Put simply, we want to support you more and share tools to help you get from here (probably feeling like we are, and having a hard time connecting to hope and taking action) to there (more creativity, more compassion, more capacity to show up the way you want to in the world). Think you can’t change the way you respond to things? Don't know how to get from reacting to thoughtful action? We walk you through the steps that you can take (for your organization AND yourself - because the micro is the macro and vice versa), to tap into creativity, look at things differently, and do good business. What started as an idea for a “quickie” bonus episode became 30+ minutes of actionable content for the leaders, solopreneur, and individual contributor - complete with spoiler alerts about next week’s episode!
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65 - Doing (good) FOOD Business with Dana Rizer, Executive Director of FEAST non-profit
01/11/2021
65 - Doing (good) FOOD Business with Dana Rizer, Executive Director of FEAST non-profit
Dana Rizer is the executive director of , a non-profit organization dedicated to helping individuals and families learn how to navigate a broken food environment more healthily by promoting wellness and enriching lives through the power of healthy foods and human connection. Dana shares the ways in which COVID is increasing health risks in high-poverty neighborhoods AND how families living within these inequitable and inadequate food ecosystems can live healthier and more nourishing lives by addressing the individual, social, and environmental factors that contribute to a healthy lifestyle. What does business have to do with it? We’re so glad you asked. Not only does Dana lead this non-profit, but other businesses can support FEAST’s work AND they reap the benefits. Healthier employees are always good business, and supporting organizations that create healthier communities benefits us all. This goes way beyond food.
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64 - Robyn Gigl: attorney, author, & activist on authenticity & story
12/21/2020
64 - Robyn Gigl: attorney, author, & activist on authenticity & story
Kelly & Lara are big proponents of bringing your whole self to work - and realize that as straight, white, cis-gendered women, it’s a lot easier for us to bring our whole selves to work than it is for those with marginalized identities. is a lawyer, author, activist - and she's also a transgender woman. She joins D(g)B to share how she used story in her career as a lawyer, even before she was an author. What it means for her to bring her whole self to work now, and what it looked like before she was free to be fully herself. She’s even got some advice for the folks who want to bring out more of their authenticity at work. What does an organization need to allow people to step into who they are? Inclusion with a capital I and diversity with a little d, because diversity doesn’t matter if we’re not Inclusive. Robyn’s #1 way for leaders to be more open & affirming? Humility. What to avoid? Walking away. What helped her most when she came out? Even if you don’t understand, be understanding. , is the author of the upcoming #OwnVoices novel By Way of Sorrow (Kensington Publishing Corp. / March 31st, 2021) and is an attorney, speaker, and activist who has been honored by the ACLU-NJ and the NJ Pride Network for her 40+ years of work on behalf of the LGBTQIA+ community. Find all the ways to buy By Way for Sorrow (including indie sellers!) at
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63 - Lisa Fain, CEO Center for Mentoring Excellence
12/07/2020
63 - Lisa Fain, CEO Center for Mentoring Excellence
How do mentoring and DEI intersect? We're glad you asked! Our guest today, , CEO of , has the answer. If you or your organization provides or wants to provide mentoring, you need to listen to Lisa (and read her book)! HUGE takeaways: Mentors doesn’t have to have the answers! What they do need is good questions - the goal is to move away from the sage on stage model to being a guide on side A recent study shows that mentors have improved leadership skills in self efficacy, cultural competency & more If your organization is talking about a career ladder, it's time to shift that to a career lattice How to start? Have conversations in relationships to determine what is working and what can be done better - take baby steps to create psychological safety FIRST 3 important inclusive behaviors for mentors & mentees: my normal may not be your normal, name the dynamic, constantly stay in relationship with one another Check out Lisa's book
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62 - Alice Karolina - The Ethical Move
11/02/2020
62 - Alice Karolina - The Ethical Move
Think marketing and pricing can’t be ethical? Think again - our guest Alice Karolina started a movement, aptly named The Ethical Move, to change that. After a profoundly impactful time in Belize and realizing that the online business space is rampant with manipulation, Alice started a movement.
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61 - Paul Birkett, founder and CEO of Automation Finance
10/19/2020
61 - Paul Birkett, founder and CEO of Automation Finance
, founder and CEO of Automation Finance has saved over 2000 families from foreclosure and we couldn’t be more excited to speak with their Founder & CEO Paul Birkett. Paul’s company, Automation Finance, pools consumer funds to invest in distressed assets and non-performing loans. Or, if you’re not in the financial industry, what that means is that they work with loans going into foreclosure to reformat them and keep the family in their home - all the while paying a nice return to their investors! Automation Finance uses crowdfunding, and investing starts at $250, so if you’re looking to support a D(g)B guest, ! Thank you to , for joining us (from Ireland!) and proving that doing good business is not only possible, it’s profitable. Our favorite takeaways: You can pursue “hard nose commercial business” (that generates an 8% target return for its investors) while also helping people Serving disadvantaged communities can still provide a profit/ROI Ordinary people want to invest money to help other ordinary people - and Automation Finance makes that possible - and pays dividends to those ordinary people, not to Wall Street Over time, their results have been BETTER than the competitors who aren’t focused on helping people
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60 - Public Relations for good, with Heather DeSantis
10/05/2020
60 - Public Relations for good, with Heather DeSantis
D(g)B welcomes Heather DeSantis, Founder & CEO of Publicity for good! Heather joined us from Branson, MO, where she and her fiancé live & work in a 23-foot Airstream - more on that at the end of the episode! Heather shares what good business and good PR means to her and her clients. You’ll learn why having a purpose-driven business is in Heather’s DNA, how this clear mission makes finding clients magnetic, and how she leads an international team and trusts them to deliver results - while trying to make the world better. Note: We had a little bit of wind noise at a few points in this episode. Find Heather here:
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59 - D(g)B welcomes Cindi Bigelow, President and CEO of Bigelow Tea
09/21/2020
59 - D(g)B welcomes Cindi Bigelow, President and CEO of Bigelow Tea
Kelly & Lara could not be more thrilled to welcome Bigelow Tea’s President and CEO to D(g)B. If you haven’t heard of , you may have been living under a rock for the past several decades! Bigelow is the #1 specialty tea company in America producing 2 billion tea bags a year - and they are a Certified B Corporation! Cindi is the 3rd generation President and CEO of Bigelow, which was started by her grandmother over 75 years ago, at a time when women rarely worked outside the home, let alone founded companies! Cindi is a leader who truly walks her talk. She runs her company in a way that reflects the family’s values and beliefs, and you can just feel the authenticity. Bigelow is 100% family owned, has 400 employees, and manufacturing, packaging, & blending are all done in the US. In this episode, we talk about resilience, Cindi’s leadership, becoming zero waste, BLM & We learn how COVID impacted Bigelow and the good that’s come from this experience plus their programs for , , , and even more in this fantastic episode. It didn’t even take 5 minutes to get to the first of many mic drops from Cindi in this episode. Did you know? Bigelow Tea is headquartered in Fairfield, CT (which is attached to one of their three plants) and has a community garden that feeds hundreds in their area through donations to a local homeless shelter - and Cindi had to negotiate to get 1 tomato per year! Cindi visits the places where the tea and other ingredients are sourced - AND she takes her sales & marketing folks, so they can be a part of the product in all ways possible You can learn some cool Bigelow tea tricks like Kelly did! Check out Two, of several, mic drop moments: “You’re not going to be great unless you have other people who are pushing you forward.” “If everyone thought about the greater good every day, the world would be a much better place.” We couldn’t agree more, Cindi.
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