Jason Stellman and Christian Kingery are former pastors who get together regularly to discuss religion, politics, and culture over one to many drinks. (And sometimes one too many drinks.)
info_outline Podcast #289: A Scooter, a Surgery, and a bit of Proustian Vulnerability 02/17/2020
Podcast #289: A Scooter, a Surgery, and a bit of Proustian Vulnerability DXP #289 begins with a harrowing account of what happens when you (1) go out drinking with a bunch of DXP fans, (2) rent an electric scooter, and (3) attempt to make it back to your hotel unharmed (hint: The answer is surgery. Surgery is what happens.) We debrief about our recent DXP Cruise, after which we resume taking the Proust Questionnaire, answering personal questions about our greatest achievements, our most wished-for talent, as well as what we would most like to change about ourselves.
info_outline Podcast #288: Dan Koch 02/10/2020
Podcast #288: Dan Koch In this special episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we sit down and chat with theologian/musician Dan Koch. Our discussion focuses on our own spiritual deconstruction and the challenges we faced as we let go of many of our prior-held spiritual beliefs. We touch a bit on the relationship of science and faith, as well as on the role that fear plays in spiritual development.
info_outline Podcast #287: Drunk Ex-Prousters Part II 01/27/2020
Podcast #287: Drunk Ex-Prousters Part II After finally figuring out how to pronounce the word “psychopathy,” we try to figure out the age-old question of who would last longer in a sudden drought: the well-hydrated person who is always drinking water or the person who rarely drinks water and is used to being dehydrated. We then move on to the Proust Questionnaire where we get through questions 10-16. Biebers include unnecessary spellings and conference room/bathroom proximity.
info_outline Podcast #286: Drunk Ex-Prousters Part I 01/20/2020
Podcast #286: Drunk Ex-Prousters Part I After some Star Wars banter and a voicemail offering us serious money if we review the film Cats (something we are actually considering because we are whores), we spend the bulk of the episode taking the famous Proust Questionnaire (we only get about 1/3 of the way through it), answering questions like “What is your idea of true happiness?”, “What quality do you most deplore in yourself?”, and “Which living person do you most admire?” Biebers involve popcorn and philistines who don’t even know
info_outline Podcast #285: Dying Out Loud with Dave Warnock 01/13/2020
Podcast #285: Dying Out Loud with Dave Warnock In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we chat with Dave Warnock, an ex evangelical pastor turned atheist. We discuss the factors that led to his spiritual deconstruction and “apostasy,” as well as how the non-Christians in his life have turned out to be much more Christlike than the believers ever were. Dave was recently diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease) and has been given only a few years to live. We talk about his “Dying Out Loud” tour, and the effects his mortality have had on his day to
info_outline Podcast #284: Self-Love and Star Wars 01/06/2020
Podcast #284: Self-Love and Star Wars Episode #284 of DXP begins with a voicemail criticizing us (gasp!) for our poor pronunciation skills, after which another caller explains how big mountains are. We discuss the mechanics of masturbation as well as how far into puberty it should take before a boy figures out how to do it. We discuss the strengths and weaknesses of The Rise of Skywalker, after which we share our biebers (which have to do with turning left and stupid sayings).
info_outline Podcast #283: Christmas Gifts and Psychedelics 12/23/2019
Podcast #283: Christmas Gifts and Psychedelics We begin this episode of DXP by revisiting the topic of the inevitability of death (but not inconsequential deaths, deaths that actually matter). We then choose the meanest, drunkest, and funniest voicemails we have received over the past few months and turn the tables by calling these listeners live on the air. We discuss the therapeutic use of psychedelics, which leads to the issue of how much mistrust of traditional western medicine is appropriate. Biebers involve verbiage and stop sign etiquette.
info_outline Podcast #282: Optimistic Nihilism 12/16/2019
Podcast #282: Optimistic Nihilism In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we play a listener’s voicemail about death, which leads us into a discussion about so-called “Optimistic Nihilism,” a view that says that we can still find beauty in the world despite everything being pointless and destined to ruin. We then turn our attention to a recent study suggesting that people living in red states have worse—and significantly shorter—lives than their blue-state-dwelling superiors. Biebers involve search engines and fatty nuts.
info_outline Podcast #281: Memento Mori 12/09/2019
Podcast #281: Memento Mori DXP #281 begins with a voicemail from an old friend, after which we give an update about whether both of us will actually be on our upcoming cruise. We debate about which ‘80s films are the most iconic, and then weigh in a bit on the new (and controversial) Peloton ad. After discussing the 2020 election we muse a bit on the topic of mortality and death, and then talk about which animals are OK to eat, if any. Biebers involve towels and gunshots.
info_outline Podcast #280: Foils, Pessimism, and Drinking Alone 12/02/2019
Podcast #280: Foils, Pessimism, and Drinking Alone In this episode of DXP Jason selflessly volunteers to do the drinking for both himself and Christian (we’ll let you decide if this was a good idea or not). Jason gives Christian his birthday present, and then we get a brief stroke update. We discuss the conservative pathology that always needs an enemy to fight against, then we debate about just how pessimistic we should be about the world. We address some listeners’ questions about veganism, after which we share our biebers about annoying containers.
info_outline Podcast #279: Vegans Feel So Much Better (Than the Rest of Us) 11/25/2019
Podcast #279: Vegans Feel So Much Better (Than the Rest of Us) Episode #279 begins with a voicemail mocking us because of Veterans’ Day (well, one of us in particular). We talk a bit about our new studio and then touch upon the latest impeachment developments, after which we turn our attention to the various health benefits of being vegan (which Christian promises he is not). We hear from a caller who singlehandedly solves the bee population problem with science, and are treated to another listener’s rendition of a relevant ‘80s TV theme song.
info_outline Podcast #277: Shout at the Devil 11/04/2019
Podcast #277: Shout at the Devil In DXP #277 we are again reminded of our “guilty pleasure” status for our evangelical listeners. We take a voicemail about whether churchgoers are aware of their pastors’ salaries, and then learn from another listener that we may be in significant legal peril. We talk about Kanye and that dead ISIS guy, and then are joined by Seth Taylor to discuss whether the demons that live inside of us are the kinds with horns and forked tongues, or are some other kind of Satanic underlings.
info_outline Podcast #276: Death, Pronouns, and the Hassle of Getting into Heaven 10/28/2019
Podcast #276: Death, Pronouns, and the Hassle of Getting into Heaven DXP #276 begins with more woes about a certain online course, after which we wax semi-serious about our desire to be remembered after we die. We take calls about whether our president is actually mentally handicapped, whether the whole pronoun thing is a bigger deal than we realized, and whether God could have just created us already in heaven in order to skip all the hassle. We revisit the issue of rising tides, and then make another unannounced call to a random listener.
info_outline Podcast #275: America, Data-Mining, and Ben Shapiro 10/21/2019
Podcast #275: America, Data-Mining, and Ben Shapiro DXP #275 begins with a voicemail arguing that “America the Beautiful” actually has a point. We then revisit the topics of alien life and the nature of reality itself, bringing recent books and documentaries to bear on the discussion. We call a butt-dialer, and then turn the conversation to The Great Hack and the issue of digital data mining. We take a call about using Venmo to get more tips, and then listen to Ben Shapiro threaten to kill people. Biebers involve spelling and online courses.
info_outline Podcast #274: Flying Saucers and Little Green Men 10/14/2019
Podcast #274: Flying Saucers and Little Green Men In this episode of DXP we hear some more valet woes and then listen to all the reasons why traveling through America is a big waste of time. We discuss a recent documentary about Robert Lazar and his claim to have reverse-engineered a flying saucer at Area 51, which leads to a conversation about science and so-called paranormal phenomena. We do our first-ever live interview with a lucky patron, and then share our biebers involving boarding planes and hyperlinks.
info_outline Podcast #273: Asians, Tongues, Veins, and Impeachment 10/07/2019
Podcast #273: Asians, Tongues, Veins, and Impeachment We begin episode #273 of DXP by recounting the events that led one of us to be whisked away from a concert in Seattle to the hospital in an ambulance. We then share a couple voicemails demonstrating how speaking in tongues works, after which we discuss racism against Asians. We pose a question to the scientific community that they have clearly never thought to consider, we discuss the recent impeachment proceedings, and then share our biebers involving courtesy and talking outside.
info_outline Podcast #272: Judging Vs. Judgmentalism 09/30/2019
Podcast #272: Judging Vs. Judgmentalism In this episode of DXP we begin by discussing Bieber and Lambos, after which we ponder whether there really is such a thing as the “science” of nutrition (mainly because we’re mad that we’re not thinner than we are). Jason shares some fresh frustration at his workplace and the people who frequent the place, which leads to a conversation about the difference between making judgments and judgmentalism (as in, does the cover actually reveal a lot about the book itself?). Biebers involve zippers and lot
info_outline Podcast #271: Faith and Fat-Shaming 09/23/2019
Podcast #271: Faith and Fat-Shaming Episode #271 of Drunk Ex-Pastors begins with a voicemail from a very inebriated caller pledging to pull his support from another popular podcast and giving it to us. We then address another listener’s comments about the charismatic movement and explore the nature of our own early faith, after which we spend some time reflecting on Bill Maher’s recent controversial statements in favor of fat-shaming. Biebers involve pushing buttons and careless maids.
info_outline Podcast #270: Climate Science, Postmodernism, and “Dick Move, God” 09/16/2019
Podcast #270: Climate Science, Postmodernism, and “Dick Move, God” We begin DXP #270 by celebrating our improved sound quality, after which Christian talks about his new diet. A voicemail launches a discussion about comedy and conservatism, and then we pivot to the issues of climate science and postmodernism. “Dick Move, God” makes its return, after which we debate whether children have the right to online privacy. After a few remarks about gun control we share our biebers, which involve pee and human resource departments.
info_outline Podcast #269: Controversial Comedy and Late-Night Intimacy 09/09/2019
Podcast #269: Controversial Comedy and Late-Night Intimacy In this episode of DXP we hear about an exciting new job opportunity for Christian, and then discuss a recent meme we shared but then deleted due to it being “controversial” (this leads into a discussion of controversial comedy in general). We answer a caller’s question about Jason’s late-night intimacy, and then discuss a mystery whose secrets we guess we’ll never know. We address another caller’s questions about psychedelics (which leads to a discussion about demons), after which we share our
info_outline Podcast #268: Death and Poo 09/02/2019
Podcast #268: Death and Poo In this episode of DXP Jason gives a brief update on his potential future as a restauranteur, and Christian shares some stories from his recent boating adventure (most of which center around the age-old question of how you’re supposed to poop in such cramped quarters). We debate whether lying about stuff makes it true, and then discuss the HBO show Euphoria. We take a call about Gen-Xers vs. Millennials, and then discuss the topic of death. Biebers involve PC culture and service charges.
info_outline Podcast #267: The Family, Wokeness, and A**hole Kids 08/19/2019
Podcast #267: The Family, Wokeness, and A**hole Kids In this episode of DXP we discuss what is perhaps the greatest Bible lesson ever given, after which we talk about the good-looking-ness of actors (or lack thereof). We tackle the issue of how not to notice hot women around your wife, and then discuss the new documentary about the Christian Right, The Family. We disagree about some recent comments by Bill Maher, and disagree again about whether religious kids are less compassionate than normal ones. We conclude with a bieber about wedding photographers.
info_outline Podcast #266: DNA, Workplace Confrontations, and Tragedy in “Toledo” 08/12/2019
Podcast #266: DNA, Workplace Confrontations, and Tragedy in “Toledo” In this episode of DXP we learn a little more about Christian’s “DNA,” and Jason shares a couple stories about valet life. We take a call from a listener with thoughts on whether Trump’s recent tweets are racist, and then discuss the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton (or as Trump calls it, “Toledo”). We then chat with Bill Olien, one of our first patrons, about faith, music, and outreach to the poor and marginalized. Biebers involve running boards and backing that thang up.
info_outline Podcast #265: Foreign Accents, our Forties, and Faux Racism 08/05/2019
Podcast #265: Foreign Accents, our Forties, and Faux Racism In this episode of DXP we talk a bit about the new HBO miniseries “Chernobyl,” which leads to a discussion about why Hollywood makes all foreign people British. We turn our attention to an old pic that Jason posted in which his father is the same age as we both are now, prompting a discussion of whether 40 really is the new 30. We talk about Reagan’s racism and whether Trump’s recent tweets are actually racist at all, and then discuss Jeffrey Epstein’s plans to jizz all over the world.
info_outline Podcast #264: Parks & Rec, Hamilton, and What Guys Want 07/29/2019
Podcast #264: Parks & Rec, Hamilton, and What Guys Want DXP #264 begins with some banter about new tech and NBC’s Parks & Rec (which features prominently throughout the episode). We discuss a new business opportunity; after which we answer a caller’s question about whether it’s weird that Hamilton was played by a person of color. We turn our attention to the so-called Transformed Wife and her lady-splaining to us what men really want in a woman. We conclude with biebers, which involve right-hand turns and online password requirements.
info_outline Podcast #263: "DNA," Online Success, and Eternal Retribution 07/22/2019
Podcast #263: "DNA," Online Success, and Eternal Retribution In this episode of DXP we debrief a bit about the wedding Christian recently attended in Texas, after which Jason teaches us how to speak Chinese (which is not racist). We discuss the return of Aziz Ansari, and then debate whether DNA is total bullshit. We respond to some pushback about whether of not we’re successful, and then take a call about sowing and reaping in the Bible. Biebers involve airplane armrests and Sprint’s customer service.
info_outline Podcast #262: Martyr Complexes and the “Gifts of the Spirit” 07/15/2019
Podcast #262: Martyr Complexes and the “Gifts of the Spirit” In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the martyr complex of American evangelicals and seek to determine the REAL reason we hate them (hint: It has nothing to do with Jesus). We take some pushback from a caller about our take on female athletes’ pay, after which we consider becoming investigative journalists. We discuss the so-called gifts of the Spirit, and then display awe at the mystery that is “the sun.” We briefly talk about Jeffrey Epstein and “deepfakes,” and then close with biebers
info_outline Podcast #261: Female Athletes, Cannibalism, and Objective Morality 07/08/2019
Podcast #261: Female Athletes, Cannibalism, and Objective Morality In this episode of DXP we debrief about our recent Alaska cruise, and then congratulate the U.S. women’s national soccer team on their victory (which led to a discussion about their receiving less pay than men, as well as about the nature of capitalism in general). We talk briefly about a short-lived Twitter feud one of us got into, and then answer a listener’s questions about whether Christians are really cannibals and whether we think morality is objective. Biebers involve back-up cams and self-checko
info_outline Podcast #260: Tongues of Angels, Hearts of Pigs 07/01/2019
Podcast #260: Tongues of Angels, Hearts of Pigs In DXP #260 we debrief a bit about Jason’s time “in his cups” last week, after which we observe a scientific mystery regarding hair growth. We then delve into the theology behind speaking in tongues. (What is it? Why do Pentecostals do it? And are they really just cunning linguists?) We answer a question about parenting and losing your religion at the same time, and then embark on a new record for the amount of time spent talking about pig hearts. Biebers involve mortgage interest and last week’s bi