Jason Stellman and Christian Kingery are former pastors who get together regularly to discuss religion, politics, and culture over one to many drinks. (And sometimes one too many drinks.)
info_outline Podcast #270: Climate Science, Postmodernism, and “Dick Move, God” 09/16/2019
Podcast #270: Climate Science, Postmodernism, and “Dick Move, God” We begin DXP #270 by celebrating our improved sound quality, after which Christian talks about his new diet. A voicemail launches a discussion about comedy and conservatism, and then we pivot to the issues of climate science and postmodernism. “Dick Move, God” makes its return, after which we debate whether children have the right to online privacy. After a few remarks about gun control we share our biebers, which involve pee and human resource departments.
info_outline Podcast #269: Controversial Comedy and Late-Night Intimacy 09/09/2019
Podcast #269: Controversial Comedy and Late-Night Intimacy In this episode of DXP we hear about an exciting new job opportunity for Christian, and then discuss a recent meme we shared but then deleted due to it being “controversial” (this leads into a discussion of controversial comedy in general). We answer a caller’s question about Jason’s late-night intimacy, and then discuss a mystery whose secrets we guess we’ll never know. We address another caller’s questions about psychedelics (which leads to a discussion about demons), after which we share our
info_outline Podcast #268: Death and Poo 09/02/2019
Podcast #268: Death and Poo In this episode of DXP Jason gives a brief update on his potential future as a restauranteur, and Christian shares some stories from his recent boating adventure (most of which center around the age-old question of how you’re supposed to poop in such cramped quarters). We debate whether lying about stuff makes it true, and then discuss the HBO show Euphoria. We take a call about Gen-Xers vs. Millennials, and then discuss the topic of death. Biebers involve PC culture and service charges.
info_outline Podcast #267: The Family, Wokeness, and A**hole Kids 08/19/2019
Podcast #267: The Family, Wokeness, and A**hole Kids In this episode of DXP we discuss what is perhaps the greatest Bible lesson ever given, after which we talk about the good-looking-ness of actors (or lack thereof). We tackle the issue of how not to notice hot women around your wife, and then discuss the new documentary about the Christian Right, The Family. We disagree about some recent comments by Bill Maher, and disagree again about whether religious kids are less compassionate than normal ones. We conclude with a bieber about wedding photographers.
info_outline Podcast #266: DNA, Workplace Confrontations, and Tragedy in “Toledo” 08/12/2019
Podcast #266: DNA, Workplace Confrontations, and Tragedy in “Toledo” In this episode of DXP we learn a little more about Christian’s “DNA,” and Jason shares a couple stories about valet life. We take a call from a listener with thoughts on whether Trump’s recent tweets are racist, and then discuss the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton (or as Trump calls it, “Toledo”). We then chat with Bill Olien, one of our first patrons, about faith, music, and outreach to the poor and marginalized. Biebers involve running boards and backing that thang up.
info_outline Podcast #265: Foreign Accents, our Forties, and Faux Racism 08/05/2019
Podcast #265: Foreign Accents, our Forties, and Faux Racism In this episode of DXP we talk a bit about the new HBO miniseries “Chernobyl,” which leads to a discussion about why Hollywood makes all foreign people British. We turn our attention to an old pic that Jason posted in which his father is the same age as we both are now, prompting a discussion of whether 40 really is the new 30. We talk about Reagan’s racism and whether Trump’s recent tweets are actually racist at all, and then discuss Jeffrey Epstein’s plans to jizz all over the world.
info_outline Podcast #264: Parks & Rec, Hamilton, and What Guys Want 07/29/2019
Podcast #264: Parks & Rec, Hamilton, and What Guys Want DXP #264 begins with some banter about new tech and NBC’s Parks & Rec (which features prominently throughout the episode). We discuss a new business opportunity; after which we answer a caller’s question about whether it’s weird that Hamilton was played by a person of color. We turn our attention to the so-called Transformed Wife and her lady-splaining to us what men really want in a woman. We conclude with biebers, which involve right-hand turns and online password requirements.
info_outline Podcast #263: "DNA," Online Success, and Eternal Retribution 07/22/2019
Podcast #263: "DNA," Online Success, and Eternal Retribution In this episode of DXP we debrief a bit about the wedding Christian recently attended in Texas, after which Jason teaches us how to speak Chinese (which is not racist). We discuss the return of Aziz Ansari, and then debate whether DNA is total bullshit. We respond to some pushback about whether of not we’re successful, and then take a call about sowing and reaping in the Bible. Biebers involve airplane armrests and Sprint’s customer service.
info_outline Podcast #262: Martyr Complexes and the “Gifts of the Spirit” 07/15/2019
Podcast #262: Martyr Complexes and the “Gifts of the Spirit” In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the martyr complex of American evangelicals and seek to determine the REAL reason we hate them (hint: It has nothing to do with Jesus). We take some pushback from a caller about our take on female athletes’ pay, after which we consider becoming investigative journalists. We discuss the so-called gifts of the Spirit, and then display awe at the mystery that is “the sun.” We briefly talk about Jeffrey Epstein and “deepfakes,” and then close with biebers
info_outline Podcast #261: Female Athletes, Cannibalism, and Objective Morality 07/08/2019
Podcast #261: Female Athletes, Cannibalism, and Objective Morality In this episode of DXP we debrief about our recent Alaska cruise, and then congratulate the U.S. women’s national soccer team on their victory (which led to a discussion about their receiving less pay than men, as well as about the nature of capitalism in general). We talk briefly about a short-lived Twitter feud one of us got into, and then answer a listener’s questions about whether Christians are really cannibals and whether we think morality is objective. Biebers involve back-up cams and self-checko
info_outline Podcast #260: Tongues of Angels, Hearts of Pigs 07/01/2019
Podcast #260: Tongues of Angels, Hearts of Pigs In DXP #260 we debrief a bit about Jason’s time “in his cups” last week, after which we observe a scientific mystery regarding hair growth. We then delve into the theology behind speaking in tongues. (What is it? Why do Pentecostals do it? And are they really just cunning linguists?) We answer a question about parenting and losing your religion at the same time, and then embark on a new record for the amount of time spent talking about pig hearts. Biebers involve mortgage interest and last week’s bi
info_outline Podcast #259: Lotsa Shots, Part 2 06/24/2019
Podcast #259: Lotsa Shots, Part 2 Writing a description for DXP #259 is a bit of a challenge since yours truly did a shot every 15 minutes the show went on. But as far as I can remember we talked about impeachment, answered some pushback about voting standards, and discussed whether the religious notion of eternity mitigates against the meaningfulness of life. We explain to non-former-evangelicals what things like the Great Tribulation and Mark of the Beast are. Biebers involve the challenges of walking and what is supposedly tolerable.
info_outline Podcast #258: Spaghetti, the Rapture, and Assisted Suicide 06/17/2019
Podcast #258: Spaghetti, the Rapture, and Assisted Suicide We begin DXP #258 by revisiting the natural disaster that our fervent and effectual prayers thankfully averted. We then introduce a new topic in our segment, “I Guess We’ll Never Know,” involving why the makers of spaghetti can’t even speak their own language. We launch a new segment which has us introducing and defending belief in something preposterous, after which we address the topic of assisted suicide and whether mental health is really a thing. Biebers involve empty threats and door handles.
info_outline Podcast #257: Construction, Judgment Day, and Freshwater Oceans 06/10/2019
Podcast #257: Construction, Judgment Day, and Freshwater Oceans In DXP #257 we are put on blast for not knowing how to build a house (of which we alone are ignorant, apparently). We discuss the option of skipping to the front of the Judgment-Day line, and then address the tactics of the rabid opponents of Planned Parenthood. We get some feedback about our message from a mistress, and then do another “I Guess We’ll Never Know” segment. The topic of suicide comes up, and then we launch into biebers (which involve Chernobyl and cyclists).
info_outline Podcast #256: Prayer, Confession, and Lots o’ Shots 06/03/2019
Podcast #256: Prayer, Confession, and Lots o’ Shots In DXP #256 we heed a request from a patron that one of us does a shot every 15 minutes throughout the duration of the show. We then put prayer to the test, coming before the Almighty in the aftermath or the devastating earthquake that rocked Los Angeles this past week. We discuss some recent documentaries, and then answer a caller’s question about religion and our children. In our DXP Confessions segment we hear from an actual mistress, and then get a sneak peek into a woman’s response to VR porn.
info_outline Podcast #255: Living Abroad and Leaving the Faith 05/27/2019
Podcast #255: Living Abroad and Leaving the Faith DXP #255 begins with a voicemail about tornadoes, as well as one calling us out on all these teased interviews we never seem to follow up on. We answer a caller’s question about leaving the faith, after which we consider a Go Fund Me campaign for a certain stab-wound victim. We discuss other listeners’ questions about everything from Christian celebrities to hangovers and from living abroad to what Jason actually believes. Biebers involve newsfeeds and false time limits.
info_outline Podcast #254: TV Theme Songs, Favorite Jobs, and More Audience Q&A 05/20/2019
Podcast #254: TV Theme Songs, Favorite Jobs, and More Audience Q&A In episode 254 of Drunk Ex-Pastors, after our usual combination of banter, non-sequiturs, and rabbit trails of distraction, we open the floor up to our patrons and other listeners by answering the questions they posed to us online. We discuss the various jobs we have had and which were our favorites, we talk about the best TV show theme songs from the ‘80s, what we’d do if we won the lottery, as well as many other topics. Biebers involve our eating habits and the removal of jewelry.
info_outline Podcast #253: Hobbies, Rape, and Experiencing God 05/13/2019
Podcast #253: Hobbies, Rape, and Experiencing God We begin DXP #253 with a discussion about hobbies and why they’re not all they’re cracked up to be. We get some unsolicited dog-training advice, discuss the time-saving benefits of profiling people in the service industry, and break down the best way to give away millions of dollars. We answer a caller’s question about our experiences of God’s existence, and then discuss a controversial scene from Game of Thrones involving rape and torture. Biebers involve Hollywood cut-aways and gas.
info_outline Podcast #252: Calvary, Calvinism, and Notre Dame 05/06/2019
Podcast #252: Calvary, Calvinism, and Notre Dame In episode #252 we hear a suggestion about distilling and branding our own liquor, after which we recount our past experiences regarding leaving our former church, Calvary Chapel. We discuss a couple recent Netflix documentaries about women we admire, and then address some charges of racism surrounding people’s responses to the Notre Dame fire. We respond to a caller’s comments about the God of Calvinism, and then hear another listener’s confession. Biebers involve wedding dates and campfires.
info_outline Podcast #251: Old Movies and Public Spiritual Deconstruction 04/29/2019
Podcast #251: Old Movies and Public Spiritual Deconstruction In episode #251 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we spend some time arguing over whether old movies suck or not, as well as over why people get excited about long battle scenes in TV and films. We then turn our attention to the difficulty of spiritual deconstruction done in public, and how responsible we should feel toward those who were members of our former congregations. We then share our biebers, which involve audiences at concerts and, you guessed it, certain types of cars.
info_outline Podcast #250: Minority Presidents, History, and the Afterlife 04/22/2019
Podcast #250: Minority Presidents, History, and the Afterlife In our sestercentennial episode of DXP we tease the audience about what it would take in order for us to start putting out a midweek show (it’s well within the real of possibility actually). We then engage a long-time fan’s input about having a minority president, after which we discuss a patron’s question about the value of history and what it has to teach us. We spend some time discussing a listener’s thoughts about the afterlife, and then share biebers involving hoods and credit cards.
info_outline Podcast #249: Ignorance, Bliss, and Girl Presidents 04/15/2019
Podcast #249: Ignorance, Bliss, and Girl Presidents DXP #249 begins with the introduction of a new addition to the family. We hear from a caller asking for further thoughts on our own spiritual and political deconstruction, and from another who wants to know whether ignorance really was bliss. We discuss the merits of having a girl president (wink), and then launch a new segment titled DXP Confessions which allows our listeners to call in and unburden their souls (warning, penance may be assigned). Biebers involve self-sabotage and D-bagging.
info_outline Podcast #248: Friendship and Deconstruction 04/08/2019
Podcast #248: Friendship and Deconstruction In DXP #248 we briefly debate whether it’s OK to dislike the movie “Us” without also being racist, after which we discuss the black inventor of the lightbulb whom you’ve never heard of because white people always take credit for everything. We then answer a caller’s question about how our respective processes of deconstruction affected our friendship. We break down a well-meaning Christian’s lament over the New Zealand mosque attacks, and finish, as always, with biebers.
info_outline Podcast #247: Nicknames, Mueller, and Cardi B 04/01/2019
Podcast #247: Nicknames, Mueller, and Cardi B In episode #247 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we discuss the origin of various nicknames (as in, how the hell do you get “Peggy from “Margaret” or “Dick” from “Richard”?). We then turn our attention to the differences between Cardi B and Bill Cosby and whether it’s okay to drug people in order to just rob rather than rape them. We discuss the developments surrounding the Mueller report and then share our biebers (one involves whinging employees and the other focuses on drinking while riding a bike).
info_outline Podcast #246: Self-Love, Innovation, and our Spiritual Evolution 03/25/2019
Podcast #246: Self-Love, Innovation, and our Spiritual Evolution For some reason, episode #246 of Drunk Ex-Pastors includes a lengthy discussion about masturbation despite the topic appearing nowhere in our outline. We discuss innovation and the new documentary, The Inventor, and then we answer a caller’s question about where our views currently stand on spiritual matters (I think it is fair to say that both of us have undergone a bit of evolution in this area). Biebers involve pizza parties and people who assume zero responsibility for their own choices.
info_outline Podcast #245: All Dogs Go to Heaven 03/18/2019
Podcast #245: All Dogs Go to Heaven Remember those ‘80s VSEs (“Very Special Episodes”) where a show like Facts of Life or Diff’rent Strokes would delve into some serious, dark territory? The first half of DXP #245 is kind of like that. After discussing death and loss, we turn our attention in the second half to celebrity comeuppance, fair wage policy, and whether the history of America is really just the history of various forms of fundamentalism. Biebers involve stop signs and T-shirts.
info_outline Podcast #244: Neverland, A.O.C., and Automation 03/11/2019
Podcast #244: Neverland, A.O.C., and Automation We begin with some thoughts about HBO’s documentary, Leaving Neverland, which leads into a crazy story involving a certain casino and Ted Bundy. We hear back from a recent caller about the minimum wage, and then discuss how scared we should be of automation (things get a bit meta here). We get a bit of pushback about the whole “white Buddhists” thing, and then hear from another caller who has “come out” to his mom about his agnosticism. We end with a voicemail about, (you guessed it!) hell.
info_outline Podcast #243: Political Correctness, Race, and (Our Last Discussion about) the Meaning of Life 03/04/2019
Podcast #243: Political Correctness, Race, and (Our Last Discussion about) the Meaning of Life We begin #243 by switching our disparaging remarks about Steven Tyler to a different glamrocker, after which we conclude—we promise—our discussion about scientific materialism and the meaning of life (because such a mundane topic must be so boring for people). We touch briefly upon the Cohen hearing, and push back a bit against what we consider to be ridiculous and PC-driven views on race and culture (we surely offend just about everyone here). Biebers involve physical trainers and the Krauts.
info_outline Podcast #242: Liars, Rich People, and the Beauty of Meaninglessness 02/25/2019
Podcast #242: Liars, Rich People, and the Beauty of Meaninglessness In DXP #242 we debrief a bit about the cruise we just took, after which we hear some pushback for being so dishonest (this leads into a discussion about media bias on the left and the right). We discuss a recent hotel-related documentary we watched, prompting a chat about the virtue of wealth. We then spend a fair bit of time fielding the objections we have heard about whether or not scientific materialism is “beautiful” (long-time listeners will appreciate the role-reversal in this discussion).
info_outline Podcast #241: Molly, Childhood Trauma, and Fine Dining at Sizzler 02/18/2019
Podcast #241: Molly, Childhood Trauma, and Fine Dining at Sizzler In episode #241 of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk a bit about Bruce Sanguin’s book, Dismantled, discussing the issue of psychedelics and spirituality (prompting an aside about whether Jason has ever really had any true childhood trauma). We take calls from listeners about healthcare and whether minimum wage laws are a good thing, and then turn to our biebers, which are admittedly incredibly “first world” (going on Caribbean cruises can be very challenging).