On The Phone w/ Ash & Amanda
A friendship hangout podcast where Ash Perez and Amanda Holland talk about the things they like (TV writing, the WNBA, Pokemon, pop culture, gay stuff, and more!) you guessed it... on the phone. Now that's what I call podcast!
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122: 'I've never thought "Oh, that gay man was being subtle"' w/ JonnyCakes
12/21/2025
122: 'I've never thought "Oh, that gay man was being subtle"' w/ JonnyCakes
This week on the pod: A VERY SPECIAL EPISODE!! We ask the one and only a million questions about being a gay man: specifically pertaining to love, crushes, and of course, a queer pasttime, yearning. It's truly fascinating stuff. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Jonny: @thejonnycakes About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website: Pre-order "Speak Now" !
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121: “You went straight to they blew each other!”
12/07/2025
121: “You went straight to they blew each other!”
This week on the pod we're talking about recovering from Thanksgiving, the sucking and fuckin' on "Heated Rivarly," whether Amanda and Fiona's anniversary was too gay, and fun solo dates to treat yourself to. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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120: Cher’s like your deranged aunt who just discovered Facebook.”
11/30/2025
120: Cher’s like your deranged aunt who just discovered Facebook.”
This week on the pod we're talking about what the hell Cher could possibly be performing on SNL, Hilary Duff's comeback saving millennials and Ash's rom-com audiobook starring Jena Malone and Arienne Mandi! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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119: “Simps and Bottoms”
11/16/2025
119: “Simps and Bottoms”
This week on the pod we're talking about Hilary Duff's new music, Ash's hysterectomy, being a big old simp, and his new autism diagnosis. Plus the ineffectiveness of the D.A.R.E program, and both of us being accidentally straightedge in high school. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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118: “The Italy episode: aka the time Amanda was underwhelmed by the Sistine Chapel”
11/09/2025
118: “The Italy episode: aka the time Amanda was underwhelmed by the Sistine Chapel”
Ciao! This week on the pod we're finally talking about the thing we've been leading up to the whole time we've had this podcast-- Amanda's trip to Italy! She cried at ruins, she loved Botticelli, she thought the Sistine chapel was mid! Lol. But anyway it's here, the Italia episode! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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117: "Have I ever told you about the time I was scammed in New York City?"
10/05/2025
117: "Have I ever told you about the time I was scammed in New York City?"
This week on the pod we're talking about the time Amanda was scammed in New York City, the time Ash got "mugged" in a Whole Foods, the general merits, and demerits, of living in a big city at some point in your life, Wicked!, how good the deals are at Dave & Busters, the WNBA semi-finals, and reflecting on how we'd rate 2025 so far. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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116: "Hopefully some of us got raptured and left all the cool people behind!"
09/28/2025
116: "Hopefully some of us got raptured and left all the cool people behind!"
This week on the pod we're talking about the raptured, narrative therapy, Amanda's shallow breathing, fascism, autism, revolution, and which Olsen twin would be gay. A really casual episode! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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115: "Oh my god we have to talk about the BuzzFeed reunion, duh!"
09/21/2025
115: "Oh my god we have to talk about the BuzzFeed reunion, duh!"
This week on the pod we're talking about going to the the 10 year BuzzFeed reunion, Amanda's Vegas trip, the eczema episode of Project Runway (lol), whether we belive in astrology, and how to have a professional athlete's mindset when it comes to our writing. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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114: "What if the aliens come from below?"
09/07/2025
114: "What if the aliens come from below?"
This week on the pod we're talking about recording Ash's upcoming audio rom com!, conspiracies, Rasputin?! (remember the bad guy from Anastasia), the difference between inside and outside kids, reincarnation, and whether mole people are real. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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113: "Now we're cooking with lightbulbs!"
08/31/2025
113: "Now we're cooking with lightbulbs!"
This week on the pod we're talking about BBC's "I Kissed a Girl" (aka lesbian Love Island), learning how to date, the return of GREAT BRITISH BAKEOFF, an insane reality show called "Destination X" that Amanda likes for some reason, the WNBA fandom being the best, Ash's Target schadenfreude, and what our younger selves would think is cool about our grown up lives. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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112: *sung like Hilary Duff* "Why not start a little cult?"
08/24/2025
112: *sung like Hilary Duff* "Why not start a little cult?"
This week on the pod we're talking about Amanda's puppet-making class, AI boyfriends, The Bling Ring for some reason???, Ash's time as a counselor at a grief camp for kids, and the undisputed best movie of all time "THE LIZZIE MCGUIRE MOVIE!" and of course, Hilary Duff's illustrious singing career. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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111: "Are you gonna bring The Pope a Chicago dog?"
08/17/2025
111: "Are you gonna bring The Pope a Chicago dog?"
This week on the pod we're talking about fedoras (i know?!), recapping good hang (as per usual, we know we need to stop), Fiona working on Project Runway, Amanda's trip to Italy, what our pop culture Pope names would be, and things you can YouTube to trick it into thinking you're 30?! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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110: "I'm doing my own bit, I don't need you!"
08/10/2025
110: "I'm doing my own bit, I don't need you!"
This week on the pod we're talking about the time Amanda accidentally made a sexual advance towards Wayne Brady, THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA 2, updates on our pets, the movies that would work better if you replaced the lead with Miss Piggy, whether campy movies are coming back, the non-basketball (aka gay) happenings of the WNBA, and finally we take a step back to be grateful for our lives (sincerity, what?!) Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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109: "I'm not into marionettes, though I appreciate them."
08/03/2025
109: "I'm not into marionettes, though I appreciate them."
This week on the pod we're talking about Ash's new cat, Squid, Amanda's dislike of marionettes, movies Ash was allowed to watch on the Sabbath, why JC Chasez is better than Justin Timberlake, and finally reading our iphone "notes" aloud bc why not?! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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108: "Is the mall back?!"
07/27/2025
108: "Is the mall back?!"
This week on the pod we're talking about how our birthdays went, Ash discovering his autism, mini beer pong, how you probably won't like Friends if you watch it later in life, gen alpha's slang (kevin, anyone) and Amanda's new favorite store— Five Below (aka Below Her Five.) Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website:
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107: "Is this podcast just a trauma bond?"
07/20/2025
107: "Is this podcast just a trauma bond?"
This week on the pod we're talking about the San Diego county fair, taking ibuprofen in your 30s, v8's energy drink??, poutine, the good ol' days of technology (aka t9, baby!), car jujitsu, lawyers that write fanfic, and what it's like having a summer birthday! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez
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106: "Now that's what I call feminism!"
06/24/2025
106: "Now that's what I call feminism!"
This week on the pod we're talking about how bad we think S7 of Love Island USA is, the BuzzFeed fellowship becoming "Lord of the Flies," whether we prefer Unrivaled or the WNBA, if we think Ash should quit the industry, and our recent trip to the ER together. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: www.AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez
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105: "If a movie is 90 minutes, I'm giving it a B at the minimum."
07/06/2025
105: "If a movie is 90 minutes, I'm giving it a B at the minimum."
This week on the pod we're talking about clogging, Broadway's secrety bowling league, drag race, why we love cons (DragCon, Clexacon, PaleyFest), the Mike Shur Cinematic Universe, Mindy Kaling writing the new LEGALLY BLONDE (whaaat?!), whether 2015 youtube is coming back, and Ash's time at Camp Lost Boys, an all trans man camp! Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Episode Notes Check out/ donate to Camp Lost Boys . The season of Drag Race All Stas we were talking about is season 7: All Stars, All Winners. The Broadway show we were referencing is
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104: "I almost bought a machete at Ross Dress for Less for $11.99."
06/18/2025
104: "I almost bought a machete at Ross Dress for Less for $11.99."
Ash gets high again in the name of nostalgia, and this week on the pod we're talking about our favorite edibles, whether we'd survive an apocolypse, weird finds at Home Goods, if a chain does a masc make, what our downfall would be if we were on Survivor, and drumroll.... Ash's new rug. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez
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103: "Wow, We've Talked About Spice Girls A Lot This Podcast."
06/22/2025
103: "Wow, We've Talked About Spice Girls A Lot This Podcast."
This week on the pod we're talking about costco runs, first jobs, our top three quintessential movie theater memories, Amanda's teenage obsession with Vitamin C, why The Spice Girls need a reality show, whether we're too old for pride, and how terrible the Target pride collection is. Now that's what I call podcast! About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast
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TRAILER: Introducing "On The Phone W/ Ash and Amanda"
06/22/2025
TRAILER: Introducing "On The Phone W/ Ash and Amanda"
A friendship hangout podcast where Ash Perez and Amanda Holland talk about the things they like (TV writing, the WNBA, Pokemon, pop culture, gay stuff, and more!) you guessed it... on the phone. Now that's what I call podcast! Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast
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101: "I'm not a man, Amy Poehler!"
06/15/2025
101: "I'm not a man, Amy Poehler!"
This week on the pod we're talking about how we'd buy anything that the SNL ladies sold us, the time the interns at BuzzFeed pitched "People Drink Their Own Pee For The First Time," whether our pets are tops or bottoms, and when we first found out we had anxiety. Now that's what I call podcast! About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast
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102: "Why are theater teens so horny?"
06/15/2025
102: "Why are theater teens so horny?"
This week on the pod we're talking about the imminent collapse of society, why Amanda shoots her shorts so quickly, whether evaporated milk is actually evaporated, why theater kids are so horny, whether we'd join a cult, the WNBA, and how women used to douche with lysol, because why not? Now that's what I call podcast! About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.” Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Contact us at: Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast
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