Built to Win
Are you ready to grow and level up your business game? Tune in to Built to Win, a fresh perspective from four put-to-the-test leaders who share their hard-won wisdom. Each episode of this podcast features practical, actionable advice from respected business founders and leaders Jeff Olson, Deborah K. Heisz, Amber Olson Rourke, and Dave Fleming. Learn how they’ve faced the same challenges that you face every day — and turned them into business success, despite the road blocks that can seem insurmountable. You’ll discover real-life insights to help you develop a success mindset and find true joy in the journey, no matter what life throws your way.
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Social Media, Storytelling, and the Future of Direct Selling
09/16/2025
Social Media, Storytelling, and the Future of Direct Selling
Join Neora’s Dave Fleming as he sits down with Samantha Hind — founder of Auxano Global and author of Show Up Anyway — for a candid conversation on the evolving landscape of direct selling. Dave and Sam dive into the power of authentic storytelling, the role of social media in business growth, and why simplicity and human connection are more vital than ever. Get ready for a master class in success filled with practical strategies, heartfelt anecdotes, and a clear-eyed look at industry trends. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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From Skeptic to Success Story
09/02/2025
From Skeptic to Success Story
After spending 18 years in a nursing career, Mandy Drozda didn’t expect to become a thriving entrepreneur. But in this episode, the National Marketing Director explains how discovering Neora turned her from a skeptic into a true believer — in both herself and in direct sales. She explains the important role personal development has played in her success and how she now applies The Slight Edge in every area of her life. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/
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Digging the Well of Residual Success
08/19/2025
Digging the Well of Residual Success
From running brick-and-mortar businesses to thriving in direct sales, Vikki and John Downey’s story is about decades of entrepreneurial pivots. In the episode, the seasoned entrepreneurs and national marketing directors at Neora sit down with Dave Fleming to talk about how they moved from traditional business models to one driven by residual income, how the direct sales industry introduced them to personal growth, and what they find most rewarding about working in this space. They'll also talk about Dig the Well, their podcast on entrepreneurship, personal growth, and overcoming business challenges. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Explore the Future of Direct Selling
08/05/2025
Explore the Future of Direct Selling
Join Dave Fleming as he sits down with Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke to unpack the evolving landscape of direct selling, the entrepreneurial mindset, and what it takes to thrive in today’s competitive environment. Drawing from over two decades of experience, including more than 14 years of leadership at Neora, Amber shares personal stories, candid reflections, and strategic perspectives on building a purpose-driven company. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/
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The Power of Taking Risks
07/22/2025
The Power of Taking Risks
Entrepreneurship is about taking risks and making commitments. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Platinum National Marketing Director Mary Chieppor and her daughter, Emma Chieppor, founder of Excel Dictionary, about the very different paths they took to entrepreneurship, what they’ve learned, and why learning to take risks is all part of the job. They also share the important role that direct selling has played in helping both of them discover independence and shaped the way they approach their careers. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com.
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Finding a Business That Grows With You
07/08/2025
Finding a Business That Grows With You
Elaine White left the corporate world when she became a mom, and at that time, she didn’t even know the direct selling industry existed. But now, she has built a successful career and is a National Marketing Director with Neora. In this episode of Built to Win, Elaine talks with Dave Fleming about what led her to direct selling, how it has provided the perfect career as she goes through the various changes in her life, and how the culture of direct selling differs from a corporate environment. They also discuss what to look for in a direct selling company and why Neora checked all the boxes for her. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Turning Setbacks into Success
06/24/2025
Turning Setbacks into Success
Neora Silver National Marketing Director Jill Chisholm has enjoyed a remarkable journey from struggling entrepreneur to a successful leader in direct sales. In this episode of Built to Win, Jill opens up to Dave Fleming about the setbacks that shaped her — including being turned down by 20 banks before launching her first business — and how those experiences led her to a career helping others succeed. Learn how she overcame doubt, found her purpose in empowering others, and built a thriving team — not by chasing money, but by believing in people. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Taking Success to the Next Level
06/10/2025
Taking Success to the Next Level
Aaron Dinh and Cathy Ngo had already found success when they discovered Neora in 2014, and that discovery changed everything for them. Finding the leadership, vision, and international momentum they were searching for, Aaron and Cathy partnered with Neora and reached one of the top leadership positions in just eight months. Today, as Top Global Network Marketing Leaders, Aaron and Cathy have plenty of insight into what differentiates network marketing companies. In this episode, they talk with Neora’s Dave Fleming about what they’ve learned and how each person can build on their existing success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Choosing the Right Company for You
05/27/2025
Choosing the Right Company for You
Wendy Hatton was a successful entrepreneur with experience in franchises when she learned about Neora. Although she had never considered a career in direct selling, she found the product appealing — and then she discovered just how lucrative it could be. Today, Wendy is a Gold National Marketing Director who is not only enjoying her success, but bringing others along with her. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about the importance of choosing the right company, how to beat mom guilt, and the importance of mindset when it comes to success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win on social to get exclusive bonus content:
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Building a Business for the Future
05/13/2025
Building a Business for the Future
Leah MacDonald had enjoyed a successful career in the finance world before becoming a mom, and she had never considered a career in direct selling — until she discovered Neora. Now, as an Area Marketing Director in Australia, she has built a thriving business for herself as well as helping others do the same. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about what it has meant to her to be able to create her own business, the joy of helping other people, and what she loves most about the direct selling industry. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Balancing Priorities for Greater Success
04/29/2025
Balancing Priorities for Greater Success
Sam Wyatt didn’t initially think direct selling was a good fit for her, but when she saw her friend becoming successful with Neora, she decided to give it a try. Now, as a Platinum National Marketing Director for Neora, Sam has built a successful business that allows her to be present as a mom while reaching her professional goals. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about how she discovered this unexpected career, how she balances her commitments and priorities, living without mom guilt, and how she thrives on helping others open the door to their success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Embracing Rejection to Find Success
04/15/2025
Embracing Rejection to Find Success
For almost two decades, Andrea Waltz has been teaching people in virtually every business and industry how to think and feel differently about failure, rejection, and the word “no.” “Go for No!,” the book she co-authored with Richard Fenton, has become the go-to guide for sales professionals and has remained among the top 50 Sales books for the last 13 years. In this episode, Andrea talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about why this philosophy is so well-suited for the direct selling industry and explains how to create habits for success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Finding Joy on the Job
04/01/2025
Finding Joy on the Job
When Shalon Murphy discovered Neora, she opened the door to a career that has allowed her to achieve her biggest, boldest goals. In this episode, Shalon talks with Dave Fleming about her journey to become an International Marketing Director for Neora and how it helped her rediscover who she is, the importance of bringing fun and positivity to work, and how she overcame her mom guilt on the road to success. She also shares her best tips for turning obstacles into success and staying motivated even on tough days. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Enjoying the Entrepreneur’s Journey
03/18/2025
Enjoying the Entrepreneur’s Journey
Melissa Finch never imagined network marketing would be a good fit for her, but once she gave it a chance, it changed her life. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Melissa, a Silver National Marketing Director for Neora, about what led her to discover Neora, how personal development has informed her professional success — and how it has also made her a better parent. She also shares valuable advice for anyone who is considering a career in network marketing. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Finding Fulfillment Through Direct selling
03/04/2025
Finding Fulfillment Through Direct selling
Leslie Hocker thought direct selling would provide her with additional financial security, but since joining Neora, she has discovered it provides so much more than that. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Leslie about how becoming a global leader for Neora has turned her dream of making money into a way of helping others and provided her with the fulfillment that was lacking in her chosen career field. She also explains why she thinks the direct selling industry is a gift — and offers five things everyone should look for when choosing a company to work with. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: To learn more about Neora, visit
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Creating a Meaningful Career
02/18/2025
Creating a Meaningful Career
Aana Camp wanted to build a business that had meaning for her and for others — and that’s when she discovered Neora. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Aana about how building her career with Neora provided her with the fulfillment she was seeking. The international marketing director explains how personal development and The Slight Edge helped her build a growth mindset, and shares how a cup of coffee changed her life. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone who needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Discover the Success Journey
02/04/2025
Discover the Success Journey
Many factors contribute to the success journey, and in this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Damon Rourke, Neora’s national marketing director, as he reveals the practices he used to discover his path to achivement. Damon shares how simple practices like consistency and perseverance, along with a growth mindset, can have amazing results. He also discusses the significance of building relationships, being part of a community, and shares how his collegiate athlete experiences parallel his accomplishments in business. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Discovering the Transformative Power of Community
01/21/2025
Discovering the Transformative Power of Community
Finding support from others is critical to the entrepreneurial journey, and discovering the power of community can make a tremendous difference in an individual’s success. In this episode, Neora’s Dave Fleming talks with Silver National Marketing Director Mikayla Gainey about how her life changed when she discovered the Neora community and how important it is to be able to offer that support and guidance to others. Mikayla shares how she finds inspiration in helping others achieve their dreams and how embracing the principles of The Slight Edge has guided her success journey. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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How Mindset Drives Success
01/07/2025
How Mindset Drives Success
Successful entrepreneurs understand that changing your mindset can change your entire business. In this episode, Neora’s Dave Fleming talks with Platinum National Marketing Director Jennifer Givens to talk about how changing her mindset opened the door to a career she never knew was possible. Jennifer shares the critical role mindset played in building her business and talks about how teaching — and practicing — compassion helped shape her as a leader. She also gives sound advice for anyone looking to unlock true success in the year ahead. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Build to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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The Power of Reflection
12/10/2024
The Power of Reflection
This is the time of year when many people are setting their goals for the new year, but they often forget a crucial element: Reflection. In this episode, Neora founder Jeff Olson and president Amber Olson Rourke discuss the critical role of reflection as you plan for the future. They explain how to use reflection to help you see what’s working well and identify what you can do differently, and they’ll explain how it can change the way you approach your goals. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Gratitude as a Guiding Principle
11/26/2024
Gratitude as a Guiding Principle
Incorporating gratitude into leadership practices not only benefits individuals but also enhances organizational success. And while gratitude is something that many people embrace in their personal lives, research shows there’s a so-called “gratitude gap” when it comes to practicing gratitude at work. In this episode, Neora co-CEO Deborah Heisz leads the leadership team in a discussion about gratitude as a leadership principle. Listen as Jeff Olson, Amber Olson Rourke, and Dave Fleming examine the role gratitude plays in workers’ well-being, discuss how leaders can implement it as a guiding principle, and share some of their own practices for putting it into action. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Cultivating Everyday Resiliency
11/12/2024
Cultivating Everyday Resiliency
Resiliency plays a crucial role in how we recover from setbacks, solve problems, and navigate our personal and professional relationships. But despite our best intentions, tapping into our inner reserve and building resiliency doesn’t always come easily. In this episode, Neora co-CEO Deborah Heisz sits down with author, speaker and educator Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe to talk about Cultivating Everyday Resiliency. Dr. Robyne, who specializes in resiliency and workplace wellness, shares her inspiring personal story and tells the practices we can begin to use to become more resilient in both our personal and professional lives. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com To learn more about Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, visit
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The Art of Managing Disruption
10/29/2024
The Art of Managing Disruption
Disruption can be a powerful catalyst for growth, forcing individuals and organizations to rethink their strategies, innovate, and adapt to new circumstances. In this episode, Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke and executive VP of business development Dave Fleming dive into The Art of Managing Disruption. They’ll share actionable strategies for navigating unexpected changes and highlight how to identify and seize opportunities that accompany disruption. They’ll also provide tips for leveraging “forced reflection” as a way to adapt and evolve both personally and professionally. And finally, they will uncover how entrepreneurs can stay ahead of the curve and turn potential setbacks into stepping stones for success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : https://linkin.bio/builttowinpodcast/ To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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What Leadership Looks Like
10/14/2024
What Leadership Looks Like
“Leadership” is a frequently used word, but what does it really mean to be a leader? In this episode, Neora Founder Jeff Olson and Co-CEO Deborah Heisz unpack what it means to be a leader, the difference between leadership and managing people and the important role that mindset plays in successful leadership. Drawing on their extensive experiences, Jeff and Deb share some of their top leadership strategies and explain how you can implement them in your own life. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To learn more about Neora, visit
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The Power of Energy Management
10/01/2024
The Power of Energy Management
When it comes to peak performance, many leaders are realizing the important role of personal human energy. In fact, energy is now recognized as the leading driver of success — surpassing such factors as education, skillsets, and connections. In this episode, energy management expert Erin King sits down with Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke to talk about why it has come to the forefront of the business world, how it affects success, and how you can discover your energy type to optimize your business success. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To take Erin's Big Energy Exam, click .
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Making Tough Decisions
09/17/2024
Making Tough Decisions
As a leader, decision-making is a valuable skill — but when it comes to making hard decisions, not all leaders are up to the challenge. In this episode, the Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke and executive VP of business development Dave Fleming talk about the inevitability of facing hard decisions, explain why it’s an essential part of leadership and share why making a wrong decision is often better than making no decision at all. Then they’ll share some of their favorite strategies for making tough decisions. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content :
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How Ethics Affect Your Long-Term Business Strategy
09/03/2024
How Ethics Affect Your Long-Term Business Strategy
Many businesses pride themselves on being ethical, but what does that really mean? In this episode, the Neora leadership team sits down to take a deep dive into the many aspects of ethics that often go undiscussed. Join founder Jeff Olson, co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke, co-CEO Deborah Heisz and executive VP of business development Dave Fleming as they look at the importance of establishing ethical values for your company, how those values will influence the business decisions you make and how taking a stand as an ethics-driven company benefits both customers and company stakeholders. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content: To learn more about Neora, visit neora.com
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Escaping the Drama Triangle
08/20/2024
Escaping the Drama Triangle
Are you living in the drama triangle? Even if you’ve never heard of it, chances are it’s something that is affecting your personal and business interactions. In this episode, Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke sits down with Dave Fleming to talk about what the drama triangle is, the three roles we play within that triangle, and why being aware of it is crucial to personal development. They’ll share real-life examples of how it shows up in our daily lives and offer actionable advice to help you move out of the drama triangle and into a new, empowered role. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content:
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The Importance of Being Present
08/06/2024
The Importance of Being Present
Being “in the moment” can help unlock the doors to personal and business success, and in this episode, Neora founder Jeff Olson and CEO Deborah Heisz talk about the significance of being present. They’ll demystify the concept of “flow” and explain how it can help you improve your outcomes while adding more joy to the journey. Filled with practical tips, this episode is designed to give you the tools you need for a more focused and successful life. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content :
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Managing Your Business Through Personal Adversity
07/23/2024
Managing Your Business Through Personal Adversity
Entrepreneurs aren’t immune from personal challenges, so how do you keep your business on track when it feels like your personal life is falling apart? In this episode, Samantha Wyatt, Platinum National Marketing Director for Neora, talks with Amber Olson Rourke about the personal challenges that tested her in ways she never expected — and how that changed her business. Sam shares how she was able to regain her footing, keep her business going strong, and what she learned about the importance of personal and professional support during difficult times. If you enjoyed this episode, we invite you to share it with someone that needs to hear this message. We also appreciate you leaving a review, so others know what they can gain from listening to the Built to Win podcast. Follow Built to Win and our hosts on social to get exclusive bonus content : To learn more about Neora, visit
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