Exploring More
Zoweh's Exploring More Podcast is an invitation to conversations committed to sharing our discoveries of the wild and wonderful Kingdom of God… how it works, who we are in it, and the Love and Life that is constantly pursuing us. The Kingdom of God isn’t easy nor is everything in our story good—there are predators and parasites in the spiritual realm, another kingdom, the kingdom of darkness that exists and violently opposes our discovering and becoming more. Exploring More is hosted by Michael Thompson, produced by Zoweh, and recorded in Durham, NC.
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Father Matters: Fighting for Their Hearts | S5E21
02/18/2026
Father Matters: Fighting for Their Hearts | S5E21
To help fuel this podcast: Fighting for the Hearts of Your Kids In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by exploring a powerful dimension of fatherhood: advocacy. What does it mean to truly fight for your children’s hearts? Michael and SJ unpack the difference between passive fathering and aggressive control—and introduce a third way: engaged, intentional advocacy. Fathers are invited to move beyond simply providing or correcting and into actively supporting their children’s interests, decisions, and growing agency. Whether it’s backing a big move, stepping into online gaming worlds, or standing up for a child in difficult environments, advocacy communicates something profound: “I am with you.” The conversation also revisits the deeper roots of fathering—how our own upbringing shapes our instincts, reactions, and fears. Healing matters. Being fathered by God matters. Because when we receive unconditional love from the Father, we’re empowered to extend that same steady presence and strength to our sons and daughters. This episode is a call to courageous engagement—to become the kind of father who protects without controlling, guides without shaming, and loves without condition. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes:
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Restoring Relationship with Your Kids | S5E20
02/11/2026
Restoring Relationship with Your Kids | S5E20
To help fuel this podcast: Restoring Relationship with Your Kids In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by diving into the heart of fatherhood—a journey that begins with healing and continues through connection, repair, and redemption. Through Ephesians 5:1–2 and personal stories, the conversation unpacks the core truth that you can’t love your kids well if you haven’t received the extravagant love of the Father. Michael and SJ share their own experiences of navigating past wounds, rebuilding trust, and falling off the pedestal of perfection. They speak candidly about parenting from the false self, the challenges of offering real apologies, and the power of engaging our kids in conversations about their experience of being fathered. This episode is an invitation for dads to move from performance into presence, from distance into intimacy—with their children and with God. Whether you’re starting the journey or already in the deep waters of fatherhood, there’s more healing and hope available than you think. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes:
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Presence Over Perfection: Fathering From the Heart | S5E19
02/04/2026
Presence Over Perfection: Fathering From the Heart | S5E19
In this week’s episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their deep dive into fatherhood with Part 2 of the Father Matters series. Centered around three foundational truths—that you can’t father well unless you’ve been fathered, that fatherhood is relational not transactional, and that fatherhood never ends—the conversation challenges men to reflect on their own stories and press into presence over performance. Through personal stories and practical insights, Michael and SJ explore how being present, engaged, and intentional creates space for deeper connection and healing in relationships with children. They name the common distractions—busyness, financial stress, past wounds—and point to the quiet heroism of simply showing up. The power of meaningful questions, the role of forgiveness, and the impact of being emotionally available are all part of the journey. Whether you're a new dad, a seasoned father, or healing from your own father story, this episode is a heartfelt reminder that God is still fathering you—and He wants to empower you to father well. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📕 Podcast: 📅 Register for The Heart of a Warrior Encounter (April 16–19, 2026):
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Our Deepest Dive into FATHERHOOD | S5E18
01/28/2026
Our Deepest Dive into FATHERHOOD | S5E18
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings launch a powerful new series called Father Matters—an eight-part journey into the heart of fatherhood, sonship, and legacy. Inspired by the final chapters of Michael’s book King Me, the series invites men to examine their fathering stories: how they were fathered, how they father now, and how their relationship with God the Father can transform both. Michael and SJ walk through the first few themes of the devotional—beginning with the foundational idea that we are sons before we are fathers. The conversation explores the tension between presence and performance, the impact of blessing and naming identity, and the need to initiate—not just manage—our children’s experiences. From making repairs to setting boundaries to letting go, each session of Father Matters invites deep reflection and courageous conversations. As Michael shares, the way we were fathered influences how we lead, protect, and love. This episode is a personal and practical start to a series that calls men to heal old wounds, live from their restored identity, and leave a meaningful legacy. 📕 email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🧭 Join a Father Matters Zoom group: https://www.zoweh.org/allies 📅 Register for The Heart of a Warrior Encounter (April 16–19, 2026): https://www.zoweh.org/events
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The Gospel Hidden in a Love Story | S5E17
01/21/2026
The Gospel Hidden in a Love Story | S5E17
The Gospel in The Notebook In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings turn to an unexpected favorite—The Notebook—to explore the deeper longings of the human heart. What might seem like a simple romantic drama becomes a window into themes of pursuit, sacrifice, faithfulness, and sacred romance woven into the larger story God is telling. Through the characters of Noah and Allie, Michael and SJ unpack what it means to fight for love over time, through opposition, loss, and suffering. They reflect on the beauty of being chosen, known, and pursued—and how true romance always carries a cost. The conversation moves beyond sentimentality into the reality that real love is forged through perseverance, courage, and self-giving devotion. Alongside their film analysis, Michael shares a personal story of encountering God’s presence in an unexpected moment—drawing a parallel between divine pursuit and human romance. Together, they invite listeners to consider how stories like The Notebook awaken something holy in us: a longing to be fully loved and to give ourselves away for something greater. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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The Gospel in The Lord of The Rings | S5E16
01/14/2026
The Gospel in The Lord of The Rings | S5E16
The Gospel in Lord of the Rings In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings journey through the epic world of The Lord of the Rings—exploring how Tolkien’s masterpiece mirrors the deeper spiritual realities of our own lives. From the quiet comfort of the Shire to the battlefields of Middle Earth, the conversation follows Frodo, Gandalf, Aragorn, and the fellowship as they answer the call to adventure, face down evil, and sacrifice for something greater than themselves. Using the trailers from The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King, Michael and SJ unpack the arc of the Hero’s Journey and why it continues to resonate. They reflect on the pull toward comfort, the cost of leaving "the normal world," and the significance of choosing hope in the darkest places. The ring becomes more than a plot device—it’s a symbol of the burdens we carry and the battles we face daily. With personal stories, spiritual insight, and reverence for the storytelling genius of Tolkien, this episode reminds us that every man is in a larger story—one filled with glory, grief, and a King worth following. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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The Gospel in Tombstone | S5E15
01/07/2026
The Gospel in Tombstone | S5E15
The Gospel in Tombstone Sign up for the Father Matters Zoom Group: In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings kick off their new “Faves” series by diving into one of their all-time favorite films: Tombstone. Through the lens of the friendship between Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday, they unpack themes of sacrifice, loyalty, and brotherhood—exploring how one man laid down his life so another could live his. Drawing from Joseph Campbell’s “Hero’s Journey,” they reflect on the arcs of transformation, the call to adventure, and the role of mentors, weaving these archetypes into real-life spiritual parallels. As they recount powerful moments from Tombstone, the conversation touches on the universal longing for a normal life, the inevitable confrontation with evil, and the beauty of redemptive friendship. Whether it’s Wyatt’s search for peace or Doc’s act of selfless love, the hosts invite listeners to consider the ways story helps us see our own battles, questions, and courage more clearly. It’s not just a movie episode—it’s a deep reflection on the power of story to mirror truth, stir the soul, and invite us into the greater story God is telling. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Tending to your Heart Before the New Year | S5E14
12/31/2025
Tending to your Heart Before the New Year | S5E14
Give and End-of-Year Gift Here: zoweh.org/eoy25 In the final Exploring More podcast episode of the year, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings slow down to reflect on presence, soul care, and the relentless love of God. From the joy of receiving a personal sign from God to the challenge of letting go of false beliefs, they unpack the paradox of a love that both has no limits and still honors our boundaries. This honest and reflective conversation explores what it means to be known and loved by God—and how we often struggle to receive that kind of love. They discuss practical ways to engage your soul, such as reviewing your calendar, photos, and journals to see where God was present in your year. Along the way, they offer wisdom for setting intentions for the new year, cultivating self-awareness, and trading performance for presence. Whether you're ending the year on a high note or in the depths of transition, this episode is a tender invitation to sit with your story, let God speak, and walk forward with hope. As Michael says, “There’s more life, more love, and more freedom to be had… but it starts with being still.” We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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HIS Presence is the Present | S5E13
12/24/2025
HIS Presence is the Present | S5E13
Give and End-of-Year Gift Here: zoweh.org/eoy25 In this special Christmas Eve edition of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings invite you into a reflective and joy-filled conversation about the heart of the holiday season. Far beyond the tinsel, carols, and gifts, they explore the true significance of Christmas—the presence of Jesus as the ultimate present. Through personal stories, favorite traditions, and honest reflections, they unpack how presence—God’s and ours—transforms the meaning of Christmas. From a flashlight found on a trail to the haunting beauty of "O Holy Night," this episode is a heartfelt call to slow down, notice what really matters, and let yourself be moved. As the year draws to a close, Michael and SJ also encourage listeners to ponder the past and prepare their hearts for what’s ahead, offering space to reflect on God’s goodness and nearness throughout the journey. 🎄 Whether you’re celebrating with a full house or carrying quiet grief this year, this episode offers hope, grounding, and a reminder: You’re not alone. He is with us. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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What If the Holidays Are Hard? | S5E12
12/17/2025
What If the Holidays Are Hard? | S5E12
What if the Holidays are Hard? In this heartfelt episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the complex emotional terrain of the holiday season. While Christmas and Thanksgiving are often painted as joyful and magical, they acknowledge that for many, the holidays bring up grief, loneliness, and the ache of change. Whether it’s a first Christmas without a loved one, a tradition lost to transition, or a general feeling of disconnection, this episode reminds listeners that they're not alone—and that presence often speaks louder than words. Michael and SJ share vulnerable stories about their own shifting holiday experiences, from quiet moments in Marco Island to family members moving away. They explore the tension between honoring old traditions and stepping into new ones, and how to navigate this “liminal space” with empathy and courage. Rather than fixing others or offering shallow cheer, they invite us to show up with compassion—doing the dishes, offering silence, or simply asking, “Would it help to talk?” The episode includes practical encouragement for those supporting others through a hard season, as well as a reminder: we’re all walking each other home. Whether you’re grieving, reflecting, or just feeling the weight of the season, this conversation offers space to breathe and a gentle nudge toward connection, healing, and hope. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! The Listening Guide: 🔔 Don’t miss the upcoming Christmas Eve episode on the presence of God in the Christmas story. 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: The Boy, The Mole, The Fox, and The Horse:
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What Makes a Gift Meaningful? | S5E11
12/10/2025
What Makes a Gift Meaningful? | S5E11
What makes a gift meaningful? In this heartwarming holiday episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings unpack the deeper meaning behind giving and receiving gifts. What makes a present truly meaningful? It’s not the price tag—but the story, the thought, and the heart behind it. From a toy fire truck that honored a man’s courageous past to a miniature Jeep gifted with intention and love, the guys share personal stories that point to something deeper: presence. The conversation explores why personalized gifts hit differently—because they tell someone, I see you, I remember you, and you matter. But Michael and SJ also acknowledge the tension many feel during this season—depression, grief, unmet expectations—and how practicing presence can bring hope, healing, and joy even in hard times. They talk about how being attentive, listening well, and remembering someone’s story opens the door to giving relationally, not just materially. Whether you’re a last-minute shopper or someone who curates gifts all year long, this episode invites you to slow down and consider how the best gifts flow from being present to God and others. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 🔔 Don’t miss the upcoming Christmas Eve episode on the presence of God in the Christmas story. 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Men’s Ministry That Men Actually Want | S5E10
12/03/2025
Men’s Ministry That Men Actually Want | S5E10
Sign up for the December 10 Allies Roundtable: Start With Story: Vision, Brotherhood & Guardrails in Men’s Ministry In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton close out the Men’s Ministry series with a conversation rooted in one of the most important elements of group life: story. They unpack how storytelling builds trust, catalyzes connection, and anchors the culture of a men’s group far more than curriculum ever could. The team shares about the necessity of starting with a clear vision—three simple words like adventure, growth, or journey—and how this clarity helps shape expectations, engagement, and outcomes. They talk through the importance of creating group “guardrails,” those unspoken (or even better, written) agreements that establish safety, rhythm, and mutual care within the group. The episode also includes guidance on how to communicate expectations clearly, how to introduce new members to your group's heartbeat, and how facilitators can foster an atmosphere where men feel free to share honestly without pressure to perform. Whether you're navigating group dynamics, coaching a co-leader, or looking to reinvigorate a tired format, this conversation offers actionable insight and encouragement. If you’ve ever wrestled with how to go deeper than surface-level discussion or how to steward momentum in a men’s group, this one’s for you. The hosts also extend an invitation to join the upcoming Zoweh Allies Roundtable on December 10th, where you can connect with like-hearted leaders, share ideas, and get equipped to launch or lead with confidence. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📆 Roundtable Info + Sign-up: 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Men's Ministry That Heals, Not Just Helps. | S5E9
11/26/2025
Men's Ministry That Heals, Not Just Helps. | S5E9
Sign up for the December 10 Allies Roundtable: Men's Ministry That Heals, Not Just Helps. In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton continue the series on men's ministry, diving deep into the practicalities of leading and sustaining groups built around connection, brotherhood, and the heart. They unpack how to lead a men’s group that isn’t driven by curriculum or performance but by knowing and being known—where the goal is relationships, not checkboxes. The conversation highlights how rhythms of gathering matter: weekly or bi-weekly meetings of 90–120 minutes, intentional midweek communication, and the importance of flexibility in content and structure. Whether it’s gathering for a book discussion or breaking away to address real-life battles, the facilitators emphasize a culture of grace, safety, and presence. They share their own group experiences, including long-term friendships forged through consistent time together—like Fourth of July parties, fishing trips, and long-form Monday night meetups. Leadership isn’t about being the expert; it’s about stewarding space and fostering brotherhood. The need for a "co-pilot" or secondary leader is highlighted as a game-changer for sustainability and care. Listeners are encouraged to evaluate the culture they want to create and the role they’re playing in helping men discover more life, more love, and more freedom. The episode closes with a call to join the Zoweh Allies Roundtable on December 10th—an open Zoom event for men who want to launch or grow something meaningful in their communities. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Building a Men's Ministry That Lasts | The Exploring More Podcast | S5E8
11/19/2025
Building a Men's Ministry That Lasts | The Exploring More Podcast | S5E8
Starting Something That Lasts What if launching a men's group was less about curriculum and more about culture? In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Josh Overton continue their deep-dive into the world of men's ministry. Building on years of experience, they offer practical insights for those looking to start or strengthen a gathering of men rooted in connection, trust, and transformation. The conversation covers everything from establishing a clear culture (hint: “vulnerability” might not be your best word) to navigating existing church dynamics with humility and discernment. They emphasize the importance of starting small, defining clear expectations, and focusing more on friendship than function. Listeners are reminded that success isn’t found in numbers or programs—it’s in creating a safe space where men can be seen, heard, and known. If you’re beginning a group, reimagining one, or mentoring others to lead, this episode offers valuable guardrails and encouragement to build something that lasts. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Questions or comments? Email: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Resources:
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The Heart of Men’s Ministry | S5E7
11/12/2025
The Heart of Men’s Ministry | S5E7
From Good Men to Loved Men What if the real invitation of men's ministry isn’t to be better, but to be loved? In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson, Josh Overton, and SJ Jennings take an honest look at the past, present, and future of men’s ministry. They reflect on the shift from performance-based models of discipleship, service, and behavior modification to a new frontier—intimacy with God and the journey of becoming a beloved son. From fragile beginnings to lasting impact, the conversation explores what it takes to build spaces where men can be vulnerable, known, and free. The guys share stories from the field, the power of starting small, and how brotherhood and story are essential to healing. Whether you’re leading a group, exploring a calling, or simply hungry for more, this episode will encourage you to trade striving for sonship. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Learning to See as God Sees | S5E6
11/05/2025
Learning to See as God Sees | S5E6
Unplugging from the Matrix: Spiritual Training for Real Life In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the metaphor-rich world of The Matrix to explore how spiritual training transforms our ability to live with power, love, and freedom. Just like Neo needed to learn the rules of the system, believers must become aware of the unseen battle between good and evil—and train accordingly. Drawing from personal stories, Scripture (like Galatians 5), and scenes from The Matrix, they challenge listeners to discern spiritual reality, recognize enemy tactics, and lean into the guidance of the Trinity. This episode is a call to vigilance, spiritual growth, and choosing to walk in the authority and identity we’ve been given. Whether you’re facing internal “agents” of fear, shame, or distraction, or learning to discern the voice of the Spirit, this episode reminds you: training isn’t optional—it's essential. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 📘 Resources: 📚 Download the map: 🌐 Encounter Weekend:
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Wholehearted Living Starts Here | S5E5
10/29/2025
Wholehearted Living Starts Here | S5E5
Encounter Weekend: The Heart of the Story: Why Everything Flows from the Inside Out In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings unpack the central role of the heart in the spiritual life. Drawing from Scripture, theology, and personal experience, they explore how the heart is not just symbolic—it’s the seat of belief, perception, and transformation. Referencing The Wizard of Oz and the Tin Man’s search for a heart, they reflect on why the heart matters so much in our stories, and why it’s often misunderstood. Is it wicked? Is it good? The answer is complex—but critical. They dig into what it means to live “life from the heart,” the lies that often corrupt our core beliefs, and the role of the Holy Spirit in healing and restoration. With practical next steps and recommended resources like Search and Rescue, this episode is an invitation to begin inspecting, guarding, and transforming your heart—because that’s where life really starts. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 📘 Read Search and Rescue 📚 Explore 🌐 Learn more:
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Partnering with Jesus in a Broken World | S5E4
10/22/2025
Partnering with Jesus in a Broken World | S5E4
The Kingdom for You: Hearing God's Voice and Partnering in the Battle In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings explore the profound reality that the Kingdom of God isn’t just coming—it’s for you. Picking up the thread from previous episodes on the map of darkness and light, they discuss how Jesus didn’t just defeat the enemy—He invites us to join Him in bringing the Kingdom to earth. From stories like The Chronicles of Narnia and 50 First Dates, to biblical truths and personal experience, Michael and SJ unpack what it means to recognize God's voice, partner with the Holy Spirit, and live as image bearers of light in a world still shadowed by darkness. They emphasize that hearing from God isn’t a spiritual elite experience—it’s part of our design. With tools like the Pause app and YouVersion devotionals, they offer practical ways to slow down, be still, and listen deeply. This episode is a call to engage: to practice stillness, recognize the King's voice, and live as an agent of redemption in the Story we’ve been invited into. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 🗺️ Explore the map: zoweh.org/map 📲 Try the Pause app: pauseapp.com 📚 Base Camp Resources: zoweh.org/basecamp
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Learning to Fight the Kingdom of Darkness | S5E3
10/15/2025
Learning to Fight the Kingdom of Darkness | S5E3
Mapping Darkness and Light: Discernment, Love, and the Spiritual Battle In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the ongoing spiritual battle between darkness and light. Using stories from Scripture, personal experiences, and even a 1974 NFL game, they highlight the critical importance of discernment—knowing the enemy’s tactics and understanding where you are on the map of the Larger Story. They explore how love, kindness, and forgiveness aren’t passive virtues—they’re powerful weapons in spiritual warfare. Whether it’s learning to resist the devil, naming deceptive thoughts, or walking in mercy toward others, this conversation offers wisdom and tools for fighting well and living free. Michael and SJ remind us that we were never meant to walk this path alone. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the support of community, and the clarity that comes from spiritual training, we can navigate this battle with courage and hope. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🗺️ Explore the map: zoweh.org/map 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Base Camp Resources: zoweh.org/basecamp
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Discerning the Landscape of Your Life | S5E2
10/08/2025
Discerning the Landscape of Your Life | S5E2
The Hero’s Journey and the Map of the Larger Story In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive deeper into the theme of this first series: learning to read the map of the Larger Story. Through the lens of beloved classics like Pinocchio, The Lion King, and The Wizard of Oz, they unpack the shape of the hero’s journey and the spiritual landscape we all live in—one marked by darkness and light, conflict and redemption. Michael and SJ explore how the Old and New Covenants frame our understanding of the battle for identity, authority, and purpose. They reflect on personal experiences, spiritual formation, and the power of belief and story in shaping our path. With the help of the digital and physical Zoweh Map, they reveal why orientation and training are critical for every man who wants to know where he is and where he’s going. This episode invites you to slow down, study the map, and ask God what He sees in you and your story. Because in a world at war, clarity is everything—and healing begins when we understand the terrain. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 🗺️ Explore the map: zoweh.org/map 🌐 Learn more: zoweh.org/podcast 📚 Base Camp Resources: zoweh.org/basecamp
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Finding Your Place in the Story | S5E1
10/01/2025
Finding Your Place in the Story | S5E1
Maps, Mountain Lions, and the Larger Story Season Five kicks off with Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings reflecting on where the journey has taken them—and where it’s going next. Surrounded by memorabilia, laughter, and memories, they introduce the guiding theme for this new season: understanding the larger story through the lens of maps, spiritual reality, and the battle between light and darkness. From tales of mountain lions in Montana to metaphors pulled from The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, this episode invites listeners to reframe how they see their lives—not as random or isolated, but as part of a greater narrative shaped by love, war, and redemption. Michael and SJ emphasize the centrality of the heart in that story, the importance of spiritual awareness, and the need to know where you are and where you’re headed. This season, the podcast will explore Zoweh’s Map of the Larger Story, offering listeners tools, truth, and orientation to help them navigate life in both the physical and spiritual realms. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Explore Base Camp:
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Hearing God's Voice | Best of S3
09/24/2025
Hearing God's Voice | Best of S3
Hearing God’s Voice: Removing Obstacles and Restoring Intimacy In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and Josh Overton dive into one of the most personal and transformative themes of the spiritual journey: hearing the voice of God. Through stories, theology, and personal reflection, they remind us that God is still speaking—and always has been. Michael shares a powerful encounter in an aspen grove, while Josh recalls a moment of divine validation as a "Giant Slayer." Together, they unpack the misconceptions, fears, and shame that often block us from hearing God clearly and offer encouragement for both solitude and community as sacred spaces where we can connect with Him. They also introduce their new YouVersion reading plan, “Comforted by God,” which is designed to help listeners engage in contemplative prayer and learn how to hear God’s voice in everyday moments. From walking in the woods to holding a rock in your hand, no moment is too ordinary for God to speak. This episode is an invitation to posture your heart to listen, believe He’s speaking, and experience the comfort of His voice. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 📲 Download the plan: Comforted by God on the YouVersion Bible App 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Explore Base Camp:
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Becoming the Hero in Your Story
09/17/2025
Becoming the Hero in Your Story
King Me: Becoming the Hero in Your Story In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson shares a powerful conversation with Jim Ramos, host of the Men in the Arena podcast, centered on the themes of King Me—the masculine journey, identity, and living as image bearers of God. Michael unpacks the five stages of a man’s life: boyhood, explorer, warrior, king, and elder sage, and the importance of validation and initiation in each. Together, they explore the wounds men carry, the battles they face, and the calling to live as strong and kind kings who reflect the glory of God. The conversation is filled with practical wisdom for cultivating intimacy in marriage, blessing your children, and seeking healing from past pain. With honesty and encouragement, Michael and Jim invite men to ask two life-shaping questions: How do You see me, God? and How do I see myself? This episode is a clarion call to step into the Larger Story, live from a whole heart, and reign well in the relationships that matter most. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Explore Base Camp:
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Writing King Me | Author/Editor Interview
09/10/2025
Writing King Me | Author/Editor Interview
Writing King Me: Friendship, Editing, and the Journey to Wholeness In this special episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson sits down with longtime friend and editor Bob Harding to reflect on the creative journey behind King Me. What began as a professional connection through a mutual friend soon became a deep friendship rooted in trust, truth, and the shared mission of helping men rediscover their identity as beloved sons. Michael and Bob recount how their work together on The Heart of a Warrior paved the way for a more intimate collaboration on King Me—a book crafted not just through edits, but through prayer, coaching, and candid conversations. They share honest stories about the writing process, preserving Michael’s unique voice, and the growth that unfolded for them both. More than a behind-the-scenes look at a book, this episode offers insight into the power of brotherhood, creative vulnerability, and the healing that comes when we tell our stories well. With humor, heart, and deep appreciation, Michael and Bob invite listeners to see what can happen when two hearts align for a greater good. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more:
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The Power of Being Heard | Season 4 Finale!
09/03/2025
The Power of Being Heard | Season 4 Finale!
Register for Zoom Groups here: Listening, Naming, and Hearing God: Wrapping Up Season Four In the final episode of season four, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings close out their five-part series on listening with a heartfelt reflection on what it means to truly pay attention—to others, to ourselves, and to God. They revisit the podcast’s journey since 2018, the shift to video, and the personal stories that have shaped their own listening growth. This conversation explores the deeper layers of listening: the spiritual practice of naming, the voices that influence us, and how empathy, curiosity, and presence can bless—or wound—the people around us. Michael and SJ reflect on how listening connects us to love and how hearing from God anchors all other listening. They offer practical guidance for discerning God’s voice and share plans for the upcoming season, which will explore the Larger Story map and the heart of a listener. Whether you’ve journeyed through every episode or just joined the conversation, this one invites you to keep growing, keep listening, and keep exploring more. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Listening that Heals the Heart | EMP S4E46
08/27/2025
Listening that Heals the Heart | EMP S4E46
Register for Zoom Groups here: Being Heard: The Healing Power of Presence and Empathy In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their journey into the art of listening—focusing on what it means to truly hear someone. They explore how childhood wounds, family dynamics, and emotional disconnects can shape our experience of being missed, misunderstood, or invalidated. Through personal stories and practical insights, they highlight what engaged listening actually requires: empathy, presence, safety, and attentiveness. From naming emotions to avoiding common pitfalls like “the advice-giver” or “the story diverter,” Michael and SJ offer helpful strategies to listen in ways that foster connection and healing. They reflect on how even a well-intentioned response can shut someone down—and how a well-timed question like “Where would you like to start?” can open the door to trust. This conversation is a powerful reminder that being truly heard can be transformational, and that listening well is one of the greatest gifts we can offer. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: ExploringMore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more:
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Listening Like Jesus | S4E45
08/20/2025
Listening Like Jesus | S4E45
Register for Zoom Groups here: linktr.ee/zoweh The Extra Mile: Listening Like Jesus In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their conversation on the transformative power of listening—not just with our ears, but with our hearts. Drawing from Jesus’ invitation to go the extra mile, they explore what it means to carry someone’s emotional or spiritual load by offering your full attention and presence. With stories from encounter weekends, medic training, and the life of Jesus Himself, the hosts highlight the difference between “active” and “engaged” listening. They share how true listening builds trust, invites healing, and fosters deep relational and spiritual connection. Michael and SJ reflect on the pain of being misunderstood, the power of asking good questions, and the sacred ministry of simply being with someone in their moment. In a world that often talks too much and listens too little, this episode is a call to love others by listening well—like Jesus did. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Hearing God Series: 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more:
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The Art of Listening | S4E44
08/13/2025
The Art of Listening | S4E44
The Art of Listening: Building Trust, Connection, and Space for the Soul In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings begin a new series on listening—not just hearing, but truly engaging. They explore how good listening fosters trust, empathy, and connection, while poor listening erodes relationships over time. From the noise of everyday life to the emotional distractions within us, the hosts unpack why listening well is harder than we think—and more important than we realize. Drawing from personal stories, humor (including a nod to comedian Brian Regan’s “me monster”), and practical tips, Michael and SJ introduce the idea of “engaging listening”—a deeper, more relational approach that requires presence, emotional awareness, and intentionality. They reflect on their own growth, the pitfalls of distraction, and the small habits that either build or break connection over time. This episode also hints at what’s ahead: listening not just to others, but to God. Because in a world full of noise, creating space to hear His voice might be the most transformative practice of all. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Visit Base Camp:
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Restoration, Theology, and the Gospel of More | S4E43
08/06/2025
Restoration, Theology, and the Gospel of More | S4E43
Galatians 6: Gentle Restoration, Personal Theology, and the Gospel of More In this final episode of the Galatians series, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings explore Paul’s closing words in chapter 6—an invitation to live with gentleness, forgiveness, and mutual care. As they reflect on the early church’s challenges, Michael and SJ draw parallels to today’s world: pandemics, polarization, and the constant pull toward disunity. At the heart of the conversation is the reminder that we were never meant to walk alone. Whether it’s gently restoring a brother or bearing one another’s burdens, Paul’s charge is clear—live the gospel together. The hosts share personal stories of confrontation, accountability, and how grace multiplies when it’s sown in kindness rather than control. They also dive into the principle of sowing and reaping, using vivid metaphors (like boomerangs) to illustrate how our actions—good or harmful—have lasting impact. Listeners are invited to examine their “personal theology” and notice where they may be relying on a “Christ plus” mindset, instead of resting in Christ alone. With reflection, prayer, and gratitude, this episode closes the Galatians journey by pointing back to the bigger truth: there is always more freedom, more love, and more grace available in the life God invites us into. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Explore Base Camp:
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Living by the Spirit | S4E42
07/30/2025
Living by the Spirit | S4E42
Galatians 5: Living by the Spirit and Resisting the Drift to Bondage In this episode of the Exploring More Podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their journey through Galatians, diving deep into chapter 5 and its radical invitation: to live free and walk by the Spirit. They explore the tension between flesh and Spirit, law and grace, and what it means to express faith through love—not fear, performance, or legalism. Drawing parallels to The Shawshank Redemption and Schindler’s List, the conversation unpacks how easy it is to return to “institutionalized” ways of living—even after being set free. The hosts reflect on Paul’s passionate call to resist that drift and instead live as adopted sons and daughters, led by the Holy Spirit. They also examine the historical backdrop of the Reformation and Martin Luther’s deep connection to Galatians, tracing how his translation work helped recover the gospel of grace in an age of religious rule-keeping. With stories, Scripture, and honest questions, Michael and SJ make the spiritual struggle tangible—and hopeful. The episode also highlights Zoweh’s Base Camp, a free resource library full of devotionals, discussion guides, and podcast-based study tools designed for personal and group growth. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 📧 Email us: 🌐 Learn more: 📚 Explore Base Camp:
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