Between Two Pines

Introducing a running podcast for people who think running podcasts are stupid. This is an ultrarunning comedy podcast instead. So if you are looking for inspirational or deep, thought-provoking content, you will probably DNF your next race just from listening to this. Dom Grossman and Andy Pearson host this monthly variety show with guests who are probably too famous to be on it, totally worthless advice call-in segments, and other dumb jokes designed to make you shoot gel through your nose. Reluctantly presented by UltraSignup.

Maggie Guterl, Moth Tech Controversy, and the Best Races of 2025 01/30/2025

Maggie Guterl, Moth Tech Controversy, and the Best Races of 2025 Maggie Guterl gives Andy and Dom advice for being an IPOS and growing their social media followings. Plus, moths finally speak out about running brands appropriating their culture and the boys rank their favorite least favorite races for 2025. Get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/35087360

Eric Senseman Retires Again, Gift Guide For Your Crew, and 2025 Predictions 12/19/2024

Eric Senseman Retires Again, Gift Guide For Your Crew, and 2025 Predictions The Corporanino Cowboy himself Eric Senseman drops in between the pines to talk about life as a 30-something-year-old retiree. And since that's depressing, there's pretty of holiday cheer from gift guides for your crew, a Christmas poem tradition, and the look ahead to what awaits us in 2025. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/34530510

Christian Allen, the New York City Marathon Recap, and Why You Should be Strava Edging 11/22/2024

Christian Allen, the New York City Marathon Recap, and Why You Should be Strava Edging Coming fresh off the most unusual (for them) but very popular New York City Marathon, the boys recount their favorite moments of the weekend. What is Strava edging, and why aren't you on the BTP Edging group? Christian Allen tells all, and leaves us envious of his vicious mullet and stride. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/34102971

Olympic Marathoner Molly Seidel, Camille Herron's Two Truths and a Lie, and the NYC Marathon 10/24/2024

Olympic Marathoner Molly Seidel, Camille Herron's Two Truths and a Lie, and the NYC Marathon As the boys prep for the New York City Marathon, they sit down with the Olympic bronze medalist Molly Seidel to ask how to run a marathon and learn about how she's leaning into her villain era. Support our sponsors by taking 10% of Janji gear with code BTP10. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/33598192

@YaBoyScottJurek, Vice Presidential Announcement, and Western States Recap 08/29/2024

@YaBoyScottJurek, Vice Presidential Announcement, and Western States Recap The boys are finally back in town! Dom and Andy relive their greatest Western States moments and then interview one of the greatest ultrarunners of all time: @YaBoyScottJurek. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/32783377

Fearing and Loathing in Olympic Valley with Billy Yang: A Western States Shitravaganza 06/20/2024

Fearing and Loathing in Olympic Valley with Billy Yang: A Western States Shitravaganza Dom and Andy start a road trip to the starting line of Western States. But after they eat a bag of expired gels and begin to hallucinate, things take several very weird turns. This very special epsiode is chock full of guests, including an interview with filmmaker and dog kidnapper Billy Yang. Plus, get your very own Between Two Pines trucker hat, available now in the UltraSignup merch store. And get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/31815082

Tim Tollefson, Would You Rather? and Tripping Between The Pines 05/23/2024

Tim Tollefson, Would You Rather? and Tripping Between The Pines K-Pop star Tim Tollefson, who you may know from Instagram, drops in between the pines to talk about being a pro runner for a decade, how much money he makes, and his almost unbelievable wins at UTMB and Western States. Plus, get your very own Between Two Pines trucker hat, available now in the UltraSignup merch store. And get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/31426002

Semi-Rad, NOT the Barkley Marathons, and a New Soap Opera 04/25/2024

Semi-Rad, NOT the Barkley Marathons, and a New Soap Opera Curl up inside the mind inside the man behind Semi-Rad, Brendan Leonard. It’s nice and toasty and full of graphs in there. Plus, the boys break down the world’s most insane race that’s NOT the Barkley Marathons. And don’t miss the debut of Between Two Pine’s brand new soap opera: THE WESTERN STATE. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And don’t forget to get 10% off Janji gear with code BTP10 and 10% off Currex insoles with code USIGNUP10. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/30975573

Amelia Boone, Pop Tarts, and Would Your Rather? Ultra Edition 03/14/2024

Amelia Boone, Pop Tarts, and Would Your Rather? Ultra Edition Amelia Boone is one of the most accomplished OCR competitors in the history of the sport so it’s a shame that she appeared on the podcast. But if you’re curious about her secret love for slapping children, stealing iPod Shuffles, and housing Pop Tart, you’ll love this episode. This episode is brought to you by Janji and Currex enjoy exclusive discounts with BTP10 for 10% off and USIGNUP10 FOR 10% off . /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/30360763

Andrew Glaze, 200 Weeks x 100 Miles, and Scary Snakesy Wakesies 02/15/2024

Andrew Glaze, 200 Weeks x 100 Miles, and Scary Snakesy Wakesies Andrew Glaze is an alien that has descended to earth just to run 100+ miles every week for more than four years and make us all look bad. The boys try to dissect him in this month’s episode. The episode is sponsored by . Janjko makes running apparel for everyday exploration, with designs, materials, and features meant to help runners go further. Each Janji collection is informed by a different part of the world where we collaborate with local artists on unique designs and partner with clean water non-profits. This is our way of celebrating exploration and supporting the people and places that inspire us. 2% of sales donated to clean water programs around the world, as of the end of the year we should be past the $1 million dollar mark for funds donated to clean water solution. Use code BTP10 for 10% off your order at . /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/29962613

Dylan Bowman, Predictions for 2024, and Some Rocks 01/18/2024

Dylan Bowman, Predictions for 2024, and Some Rocks The boys make predictions for ultrarunning in 2024 that are 100% guaranteed true or your money back. Then they talk with FreeTail (aka MingleTrack) founder Dylan Bowman and ask him if his Hardrock was bussin or suss AF. This episode is brought to you by Get 10% off Janji apparel with promo code BTP10. Go to to give it a try. This episode is brought to you by the in Washington State, happening on July 13-14th, 2024. The first 50 registrants snag a free pair of Darn Tough Socks! New for 2024: $1000 in prize money, equally distributed among all 1st place finishers across male, female, and non-binary categories. Devil's Gulch offers three epic distances: a half-marathon, 50 Miler, and a formidable 100 Miler. Brace yourself for a course featuring hot, dry high desert, intense gulches, and massive rock hoodoos. The 100 Miler is a true test of endurance with plenty of vert and heat which is why each finisher gets a homemade belt buckle. The 50 Miler? It's half the crazy. And for those seeking a more balanced challenge, there's the half-marathon. Choose your adventure at Devil's Gulch this July and make it a race to remember! Go to for more information and to register. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/29536038

Between Two Christmas Trees Holiday Special 12/21/2023

Between Two Christmas Trees Holiday Special Break out the bear bells for this holiday extravaganza bonus episode. The boys look back on the year in ultra, talk about a Christmas miracle, and perform their own holiday poem just for you. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/29172658

Western States 100 RD Craig Thornley and the Heinz Ketchup Challenge 12/07/2023

Western States 100 RD Craig Thornley and the Heinz Ketchup Challenge So, Andy and Dom both got into Western States 100 and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS INTERVIEW WHATSOEVER. PLEASE JUST ENJOY THIS INTERVIEW AND DON’T READ INTO IT AT ALL. THANK YOU. Get 10% off Janji apparel with promo code BTP10. Go to to give it a try along with Andy. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/28970953

World’s Funniest Runner Laura Green and a UTMB/WAM Exposé 11/16/2023

World’s Funniest Runner Laura Green and a UTMB/WAM Exposé Andy and Dom trade pines for cactuses as they get an exclusive interview with UTMB whistleblower “Steepthroat” and try to convince everyone’s favorite runner @lauramcgreen to finally run an ultra. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/28664033

Ethan Newberry, Racing In The Matrix, and How To Orienteer 10/26/2023

Ethan Newberry, Racing In The Matrix, and How To Orienteer In episode two, Andy and Dom imagine a world where you don’t have to run, help another Fartalk caller, and ask the Ginger Runner about his content creator masterplan. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/28426664

Jamil Coury, Falling, and Taking Gels To Flavortown 10/19/2023

Jamil Coury, Falling, and Taking Gels To Flavortown In the first episode, Andy and Dom go Guy Fieri on gels, take a Fartalk caller question, and grill Jamil Coury on Big Running. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/28364687

Between Two Pines Trailer 10/10/2023

Between Two Pines Trailer Introducing a running podcast for people who think running podcasts are stupid. This is an ultrarunning comedy podcast instead. So if you are looking for inspirational or deep, thought-provoking content, you will probably DNF your next race just from listening to this. Dom Grossman and Andy Pearson host this monthly variety show with guests who are probably too famous to be on it, totally worthless advice call-in segments, and other dumb jokes designed to make you shoot gel through your nose. Reluctantly presented by UltraSignup. /episode/index/show/f04d7e8c-333b-43c6-ad0a-3fb9cdaaf472/id/28271741

Between Two Pines

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